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BCC Minutes 01/13/1994 W (Immokalee Townhall Meeting)ORIGINAL TO~ DATE: TIME: PLACE: January 13, 1994 7:00 p.m. - 9:20 p.m. Immokalee Middle School Aditorium Reported by: JACQUELYN D. MCMILLER, Deputy Official Court Reporter Carrothere Reporting Service Collier County Courthouse Building L, 5th Floor Naples, FL 33916 OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 A-P-P-E-A-R-A-N-C-E-S COMMISSIONERS: Tim Constantine Burt Saunders Bettye Matthews John Norris Neil Dotrill - Chairman - Commissioner - Commissioner - Commissioner - County Manager SPEAKERS (ReDresentina~: Steve Brinkman ** Parks and Recreation ** - Parks and Recreation Department ** Lighting ** George Archibald - Transportation Department Tom Conrecode Dwight Brock Paul Brigham ** Courthouse Complex ** - county Courthouse Complex - Clerk of Courts - Court Administration Sal Gardino Doug Caperton Jim Hansen ** Juvenile Crime/Justice ** - Mediation/Arbitration,Juvenile Arbitration - Sheriff's Department - Sheriff's Department ** Urgent Health Care ** Dr. Bill Ausdon - Isabele Collier-Reed Health Park Greg Mahalik ** SHIPP Funds ** - Collier County Publio Housing ** Also Present ** Dr. Sam Levy Lynn Maxwell - Collier County Public Schools - Seminole Gaming Palace OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 23 PROCEEDINGS MS. SMITH: Good evening everyone, I'd like to introduce myself. We're co-sponsors for this event tonight. I'd like to introduce also Doctor Ryan and her social studies group that has sponsored the event with the school. Next, I'd like to introduce our distingtlished co~issioners. On the end here is Commissioner John Norris. You must be Butt Saunders. I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with the gentleman between you. CHAIRMAN CONSTANTINE= I'm Tim constantine. MS. SMITH: Next is Bettye Matthews, our own commissioner. CHAIRMAN CONSTANTINE= I would like to say that Commissioner Volpe asked me to give his apologies. He had a close friend die unexpectedly last night and he is with their family tonight. He apologizes for not being here tonight but obvious, he had other things to take care of. MS. SMITH: And, on the end is Nell Dotrill. MR. DORRILL: Yes, ma'am. MS. SMI~{: The way we're going to proceed with tonight's agenda, we were supposed to have some extras OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 2 3 5 6 7 8 9 '10 :1l 12 13 15 16 17 '18 19 2O 22 23 4 tonight but we don't so I do apologize for that but we do have specific agenda items w~ want to address the commission with and we will be following that schedule. Around 8=50 there will be an open period where any of you who have any items that you want to address the commission with, wa will have time at that period to bring them up. I will proceed by asking the commissioners general questions as to each agenda item and from there it will be open to you if you have any further questions on that particular item. There is on~ schedul~ change in the agenda. We have moved the Imnokalee Airport item up to be the first one and everything else has been moved down. So, my question to the commission is, would you please update us to the progress of the new airport authority and when improvements, in particular, to the Immokalee Airport might be expected as well as how the negotiations with Ebony Air are progressing and their bid to locate at the Immokalee Airport. CHAIRMAN CONSTANTINE= I'll take the first stab at that I guess. For those of you that don't know, aviation is actually what brought me to Southwest Florida. I ca~e down with a commuter airline. We operated out of the OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 4 5 6 7 8 9 :1o :12 13 14 15 :16 '17 19 2o 2:1 22 23 Naples Airport but we also held the lease on the Marco Island Airport and operated that as well. So, I have a pretty good familiarity with the industry and with some of the potential we hold out here. I Just flew into this airport Monday, had a look around and there's certainly plenty to work with there and we're all excited at the prospect of the two companies that have expressed interest this week. one of the most important things we need to do to move that forward is to get an executive director on board for our airpor~ authority and that item is on the agenda for this coming Tuesday. The airport authority has recommended a particular gentleman. Neil, he may even be here to answer questions on Tuesday, I'm not sure if we've arranged that or not but hopefully within the next couple of weeks we'll have someone on board. The airport authority has been very aggressive in laying out a plan and before we get into speoifio improvements on each airport, we want to lay out a short term plan and a long term plan. Obviously, as these businesses show interest they become, hopefully, a part of that long term plan. I think they're going to make this Immokalee Airport, really, excuse the pun, take off. OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 2 5 6 7 8 9 lO 11 12 13 14 '15 16 "17 ~8 19 2O 21 22 23 It holds a great deal of a potential and most importantly not only for the airport itself but to diversify the economy here, not only when people think of airports they think of planes flying in and out, and that's it. That's not necessarily the case. And particularly, with the environmental issues we deal with, we can take advantage of that and the Everglades type things and around more importantly and probably the strongest key here will be the agricultural connection and some of the connections between potential cargo programs and the agricultural. So, that's Just a little one minute synopsis, if you will, of where we are now and hopefully where we're headed. MS. SMITH: Are there any questions? Bettye. COMMISSIONERMATTHEWS: I'd like to add something to that. Today, I did receive from Ebony Air their package on the formation of a CDC, how it's done and what it,s expected to accomplish and they laid they would get it to us this week which they did and I've since distributed it to each of the county commissioners so that we can all come up to speed on that. I also spoke today with Hr. Ne~lron (Sic) of the EDC OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2O 21 22 23 7 and wa discussed bringing the co~mittees together again that had met with ACA a couple of months ago to bring them back together to also meet with Ebony Air and Hill Air to get some further information on what their plans are and get some hard facts as to what's going on. The other thing, as to construction at the airport, I think we all know it's been a permitting nightmare and George, correct me, but I believe you told me you expect to have permits in hand in July? MR. ARCHIBALD= Yes, we do. COMMISSIONER NATTHEWS: MR, ARCHIBALD: Yes, COMMISSIONER MATTHEWS: July of '947 So, I would expect that things will get underway as soon as the permits are in hand and the airport authority is ready to move ahead. MS. SMITH: Anyone else? Okay, thank you. Moving on to parks and recreation. Would you please provide us with an update as to the improvements that will be made as to the existing parks in Immokalee and would you give us an outlay or plan definition on the proposed pool for Immokalee. COMMISSIONER MATTHEWS= Why don't we have Hr. Brinkman do that. You've all received, or most of you OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 have, this package as they talk. It'll kind of lead you through it. HR. BRINXMAN= Hello, I'm Steve Brinkman from the parks and recreation department. It's my pleasure to be here tonight, especially, to brag about some of the real excellent parks and recreation facilities we're going to be opening up very soon. In fact, next year about this time, we hope to be in the facility, the reo center and the pool expansion by this time next year. So, if everything goes well by this time next year we'll be having a ground break or actually the grand opening for that facility. The existing building that you know exists right now is about 15,000 square feet. We'll be renovating the gymnasium, replacing floor and the roof structures over there. We'll be renovating the fitness room, the wrestling room that exists right now, also renovating existing locker rooms. In addition to that, we'll be adding about 10,000 square feet to the building, a new lobby and reception area, game room, a snack bar and kitchen, offices and storage and if the bids will allow, two racquetball facilities as well. Those plans are in your packet of OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTYw NAPLESw FL 33962 1 2 6 7 8 9 lO 11 12 :1.3 14 15 ~6 17 '18 19 2o 21 22 9 information that we've handed out but you can also see in this picture, this one has the rec center itself with the existing gymnasium, wrestling room, these will be new racquetball courts that will be added onto that. A new lobby area, game room, the locker rooms are up on the top and that actually, the locker rooms actually go out into the pool area, as you can see on this site plan and there will be a large main pool which will be eight lanes by six lanes and an activity pool which will be the sams as the activity pool at the Golden Gate pool complex if you've been to that facility. The, Just real quickly, the budget for that facility is about 2.7 million, total budget construction costs are about 2.3 million. There are four add alternates in the bid, depending on how the bids come in as to whether we're going to be able to add those two the project, that is the activity pool, the slide, a sonar adapter for the pool itself and the racquetball courts. so, when the bids do come in and we see whsre we're we may need to go back and try getting a little bit more money to add on some things to the project. The schedule, the pre-bid, will be the end of February, bid open will be mid March, construction should OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 15 3.6 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 start about mid May and then completion will be January of '95, Just about this tins next year. MR. FRED THOMAS: I ~ant to make sure I understand Was that first add alternate the the add alternate. activity pool? MR. BRINKMAN= Yes. There's $130,000.00 for the activity poo1~ $65,000.00 for the slide, $15,000.00 for sonar adapter, and then $100,000.00 for the two racquetball courts. COMMISSIONER MATTHEWS= One question, I don't mean to be naive, but what's a sonar? What does it do? MR. BRINKMAN= If someone would enter the pool after hours it triggers an alarm when someone gets into the pool water itself. UNKNOWN SPEAKER: You have the existing Highlands Elementary School on the side of this property, is that in error or is that where it is? MR. FRED THOMAS= is temporarily. MR. BRINKMAN= That's where the Highlands School It's the old middle school. UNKNOWN SPEAKER= What will happen to that? MR. BRINKMAN: What's going to happen to the existing school facility at that site? OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 3. 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 11 UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yes. MR. BRINKMAN: To tell you the truth, I'm not, someone from the school district might be able -- COMMISSIONERMATTHEWS: The head start program will be located there, eventually, from the Bethune Center, it's going to move there. MR. BRINKMAN: I'll touch on real quickly another recreation project which we're currently working on right now and it's the Tony Rosbaugh Community Park, those little league fields out there, and we're right now hoping to complete before their season starts, new lighting on field two, resodding the outfield on field two, putting up a new entry sign, relocating the scoreboard on field two also. We've redone the dugouts on field number one, renovated, the in-field on number one will be renovated, we're also repairing the entrance gate and doing some site clearing up there. The budget for that project is about $40,000.00 and that should be complete by the middle part of February. UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Will be complete? MR. BRINKMAN= Yes, will be. UNKNOWN SPEAKER; There's some other things in there too, things we need to add in that we talked about OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 1.l 12 13 15 16 ].7 :18 19 2o 21 22 23 12 earlier. Some relocatton of some of that that you've got sketched out there, we need to move around but that's Just a preliminary, right? MR. BRINKMAN: Yes. UNKNOWN SPEAKER: You haven't any additional lights, field lights for field number one? MR. BRINKMAN: No. the funds that we have for this year will light field number two, and then we'll have to work on field number one as a future project. UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I had a question about the pool, again. I'm not familiar with Golden Gate Activity Pool. Is any of it shallow? MR. BRINKMAN: Yes. In fact it's called a zero depth pool because it starts at the deck depth itself and actually goes down to about a foot and a half deep in the deepest section, maybe a couple feet deep, and there's play equipment in that, play features, spray equipment and that sort of thing for the kids to play with. It's the most popular facility at the Golden Gate pool. Anything else? thank you. MS. SMITH: particular park, Airport Park. appreciate being here tonight, I do have a question about one I received a letter from OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 '7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 13 you, Betrye, last year. We have, for four years that I know of, possibly more, requested the updating of the electrical system in that sound stage and as of yet it's not been done. You said construction or updating would start November of last year. COMMISSIONER MATTHEWS~ heard that it's not done. I'm going to have Mr. Brinkman as to why it is not done. Why? This is the first I've to defer to MS. SMITH: You said it was budgeted for this year, that it would start in November, it has not been done. COMMISSIONER MATTHEWS: That's what I was told, it was budgeted and that it was being done. MS. SMITH: I've got a copy of your letter. MR. BRINKMAN: started yet. MS. SMITH: That is something that hasn't been Why? MR. BRINKMAN: ball fields as kind of a open. MS. SMITH: We've actually been working on the first priority, to get those Well, I appreciate the need for the priority on the ball field but this has been ongoing for over four years. I would consider that a priority. MR. BRINKMAN: We'll be on that pretty soon. OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 1.5 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 14 MS. SMITH: I hope by April it will be done. We have our harvest festival at that time. MR. BRINKMAN: This is the deadline for the ball fields. The harvest festival is a little bit later. We'll be working that in so it will be done. MS. SMITH= You'll working it in? HR. BRINKHANs It'll be done before -- MS. SMITH: If it's not done by April you'll be hearing from me. UNKNOWN SPEAKER= Steve, one other thing that I need you to bring up, over In the park now, in tow11 here where the facilities are at, where the high school baseball field is, between that and the softball field is to the west, there was an area that was left out in there and from old plans that I had looked at, that thing was scheduled also for a little league field. What is the plane for that or do you know. MR. BRINKMAN~ Yeah. I think, ell of the community parks have areas that are designated for future expansion and that is Just designated as an aree for future expansion of additional athletio fields. One more softball or baseball field could go in that area. UNKNOWN SPEAKER= If we're looking at expanding OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 4 6 7 8 9 lO 1]. '~2 14 15 16 ].7 18 19 20 2'I 22 23 15 this year, we hope to have quite a few more teams because of age differences now being noticed. We have the Challenger Divisions starting up so I'm sure we'll need more fields. MR. BRINKMAN= We'll be happy to talk. In fact, there is a field at the community park that we can go ahead and let your group use, fact. So, the existing field, schedule that even this year. Immediately, as a matter of we can go ahead and UNKNO~ SPEAKER: The only thing about the Challenger Division, they couldn't use this field that's The ball would be too here now because of the play. fast. MR. BRINKMAN: What age group is that? UNKNOWN SPEAKER: That ranges from eight up and the Challenger Division is handicapped kids. That's the reason I was saying it's too fast. MR. BRINKMAN= Why don't I try to give you a call tomorrow and we can work with you on scheduling where we can schedule that program. So, I'm sure there's got to be a field somewhere. MS. SMITH: If that's it on parks and recs, we'll move on to lighting. Would you please elaborate on how OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2O 21 22 16 the new consolidation of the five lighting districts into one umbrella with the Capital Improvements Committee could possibly change the service to each individual district area? COMMISSIONER MATTHEWS: When that issue came before the board, I specifically inquired about the Immokalee Lighting and Beautification District and was told that it had been separated and split out. I talked to Mr. Archibald about that a few days ago and he said that he has some explanation as to how it's going to benefit. MR. ARCHIBALD: Good evening, X've got a hand-out that I'll leave in the back of the room and explains a couple of things, most important of all, what type of lighting activities are currently underway in Immokalee. Currently, there's approximately 350 lights for the urban area and the community is paying somewhere in the neighborhood of $56,000.00 a year to operate and maintain those lights. Right now, your millage is in the neighborhood of 1200the of a mill. That means for a home that has a value of about $50,000.00, you're paying about $30.00 a year towards your street lighting activities. OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2O 21 22 23 What the county does each and every year, because keep in mind we have over 30 districts where we're installing lights and maintaining lights. What we attempt to do from the county and finance standpoint is consolidate as many of those lighting districts as we can. Typically, we wait until a buildout occurs where there's not going to be much of a change in the lighting districts and when the millage of the various lighting districts are very similar and Just recently we've requested and the board has approved an ordinance which would allow us to consider consolidating more lighting districts in the upcoming year, not the current year we're in but it would allow us to consider consolidating lights for 1994 and '95. So, as we go through our budget process, we're going to be looking at the Immokalee district, taking a look at your current millage, taking a look at the millage that you may be paying in the future end I think that's the bad news I need to relay onto y'a11 today. In fact, if there is a consolidation, it's very likely that the millage for the Immokalee district may go up a very small amount. It may go up somewhere in the OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2O 21 22 23 neighborhood of two to four hundredths of a mt11. In regards to, agatn~ a $50,000.00 home, you're looking at $10.00 increase over a period of a year. So, as we go through our budget process and because you have a street lighting district~ we're going to be discussing and investigating further whether or not the Street lighting District should, in fact, be consolidated with the county-wide. So, that's one of the ~te~s that you may want to take a look at. The handout that I'm prov~ding gives you some indication of current millage on different values of homes and also gives you some idea of what the future millage would be and what those comparable costs would be. So, if you take a look at that and ~f there are some questions I'll be glad to address them. Let's keep in mind that during our budget process in mid 1994 of this year, we're going to be look~ng at those costs and making a final determinat~on of whether consolidation is appropriate. MR. FRED THOMASs If we don't consolidate out here in Immokalee can we maintain the same service level on lighting without increasing the millage? MR. ARCHIBALD: Yes. Actually, ~f you maintain OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS~ COLLIER COUNTY~ NAPLES~ FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2o 21 22 23 19 your lighting on status ~:o, ! thinkwe all recognize that property values typically go up each year so it's very likely that your millage for the upcoming year may be about where it is this year or a little less. Keep in mind, the actual millage we're talking about is in the hundredths, again, 1200ths of a mill. MR. FRED THOMAS: But Just incorporating us with the rest of them makes it go up? MR. ARCHIBALD: Yes, it could because of the consolidating effect of not only the property values but the number of street light~ that are in the community at this time. Yes. UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I might be missing it but I didn't hear any advantage to Immokalee in your presentation. Why consolidation? MR. ARCHIBALD: Again, we're looking at typically consolidating all of the districts from a financing standpoint. There's a lot of processing that goes on in handling the bills and hand.ling the repairs of the lights and there may be some service level maintenance or improvement in those areas. My report, what I'm telling you tonight, is that OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY~ NAPLES~ FL 33962 1 2 3 5 6 7 8 9 lO 11 12 13 15 ~6 17 ~8 19 2o 2:!. 22 23 2o your millage will very likely go up but go up a very small amount. So, what you have to consider is whether or not there is any advantage from a processing standpoint to paying a little bit more millage and being consolidated within a larger district. UNKNOWN SPEAKERs If consolidation of Immokalee is included, the light request is on a first come first serve basis? MR. ARCHIBALD= In the Immokalee area, we've gone ahead, and the district that we've got and the com~ittee that handles it, have done an awfully good Job in going ahead and establishing a master plan. That master plan has been.implemented and as time goes on there would be lights added to it. Those lights would continue to be a recommendation of the lighting committee and be handled in the same fashion they're handled today. MR. DWIGHT BROCK= George, what would be the advantage of the entire county of consolidating the lighting? MR. ARCHIBALD= Again, t. he advantage would be in the accounting and financing end of it. Again, there is no advantage in certain districts, and Immokalee happens OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 ,1 2 5 6 7 8 9 lo 1.1 '12 '13 15 16 17 ~8 19 2o 2'1 .22 23 21 to be one of them, there is not an advantage from a monetary standpoint for the ad valorem tax amount. MR. FRED THOMAS= I hate to pursue this, but are any other districts going to get a reduction in their millage rates because of consolidation? MR. ARCHIBALD= A numbe= of them will go up and a number of them will go down. Typically, there's a range, and it's very, very small. Again, typically, we're looking not at mills but at tenths of mills. So, obviously when they get fairly close it makes good sense to consolidate, to be able to cut down on the overhead costs and then in turn it may, in fact, as time goes on, cut down the operating cost but we can't project that over the next two years. UNKNOWN SPEAKER= George, if I understand it correctly, and I know you don't want to come right out and say it but what you're really telling us is that it makes it easier for you as an administrator to do that. What you're really telling us is that we need not to consolidate and we need to make sure these folks know that we don't want to do that with the lighting district? MR. ARCHIBALD: Yes, I believe that ~ou've got a co~ittee that provides a forum for that information to OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 be relayed. ~R. DORRIIE~: The overall incentive to the county is one of administration and obviously the people that are paying to administer 38 different lighting districts are you. So, until we get to the early part of the summer and we actually see what the proposed budgets are there may still be an incentive for us to do some consolidation because it's very expensive and we incur and waste a lot of staff time trying to keep 38 different budgets, 38 different funds, 38 different sets of purchase orders, 38 different schedules for repair and maintenance activity and obviously if you consolidate those you have some economies of scale in terms of the bureaucracy of trying to run street lighting districts. That was the initial incentive and only if can prove that to the board this summer are we going to see it actually go through that way. MR. FRED THOMAS: Nell, I agree with you a hundred percent but I think you need to look at is make sure no district goes down. Do you understand? It doesn't make sense for our district to go up and other districts get less of a millage rate, do you understand, for the sake OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 '9 10 13 :14 15 :16 '17 :18 19 2O 21 22 23 of trying to get~he economy scale. You see? It seems you have to redistribute where the administrative proration is for some of your districts. MR. ARCHIBALD= Historically, what we're looking at is when those millage rates are very much identical from one district to another that it makes sense to consolidate. Again, we're looking at a millage that's w~thin & few hundredths but still every penny counts and ! think that's part of the analysis that will occur this summer. UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I have a question for Neil. Aren't you already charging the district an administrative fee? MR. DORRILL: We do and the concept though is if we can consolidate districts and eliminate the multiple number of budgets and funds and accounting systems and purchase order and scheduling systems that we're going to cut by the same function the cost of having administer that many different programs. But, that's what I said, unless we can prove to the board that we can actually operate a consolidated system at less administrative overhead then I don't think you're going to see a great deal of that this sinmast. OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, CO?$,IERCOUNTY, NAPLESt FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 lO 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2o 21 22 23 24 MR. ARCHIBALD: Thank you. MS. SMITH: Can I keep these? MR. ARCHIBALD: MS. SMITH~ comments on the County Courthouse Complex. I've got many more. If there's no more questions or lighting, we'll move down to the Collier MR. FRED THOMAS: Can we get an update on the beautification down let Street, is that included in this section? MS. SMITH= MR. DORRILL: It shoul~ be. MS. SMITH: But we can do that for you. MR. ARCHIBALD: The project on 846 let Street has been completed and that's under a maintenance contract that also is part of the Immokalee district at this time. Right now, for the budget for this particular year, the funding is for the operation and maintenance of the medians that have been improved. The cost of that annual maintenance approaches $48,000.00. UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I think one of the things that the beautification and lighting committee and that improvement on 846 ~s there are no crosswalks allowed for the pedestrians to cross that partic~lar highway, that OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 .2 4 6 7 9 lO 11 '1:2 '14 15 17 18 19 2o 2~ 22 four lane highway there. It needs to be added because as shrubbery and the ability for those who are taking short cuts everything else grows there, drivers to see those people across the middle of what has been made a better area and a median and to beautify that area is going to, eventually, cause an accident down there if we don't put some kind of crosswalk and pedestrian walks down there for those people to utilize. MR. ARCHIBALD: That's an awfully good comment. As part of that contract activity, not only were the sidewalks reconstructed and ramps provided but at each of those crossings that are marked in the pavements, we do plan on improving some lighting. We're working with Lee county Co-Op right now to see whether or not we can change some of our fixtures or maybe add some lights so at some of the intersections there and along that corridor, we can many provide a little bit better lighting, not for the traffic and not necessarily for the median but at least better lighting along the outside lanes of the both the northbound and southbound movements there. UNKNOWN SPEAKER: We still need to at least have OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 ,l 2 5 6 8 9 '1o '11 "12 '!3 '14 '15 16 17 "18 '19 2o 21 22 23 26 some pedestrian crossings because If you haven't been through there, they're walking right across the middle and I'm not saying that to have It marked ie going to cause them to walk through It but at least If an accident does occur, if we have a designated pedestrian crossing, it,s to the benefit of that driver and it's also a benefit to the pedestrian to know that there is & marked zone for the cross. MR. ARCHIBALD~ Some of the painting that we've got down at many of the intersections and the sidewalk ramps that have been built are there for that very purpose and we'll take a look at maybe restriping those. MR. FRED THOMAS: I think you're missing his point. There was a couple places where there was formerly a street and that median cut closed it off. Now, folks are not going to go a block out of their way to come down to your nice crosswalk. He means, if you have walkways there, marked and some way to get across the median at that point because that's, to lock into. MR. ARCHIBALD: think, is what he's trying Yes, there's two locations like that and what we're looking at is whether or not we want to encourage that or discourage that and, of course, what OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER .COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 :3 5 6 7 8 9 lO ,11 12 '~3 '15 16 17 18 19 2o 21 22 23 we're hearing is people are continuing to use it no matter whether we discourage it or not. In those locations we're going to have to come in and put in some type of markings or crosswalk. COMMISSIONER MATTHEWS= Where it's continuing? You're talking about where the people continue to use the walkway, you're going to come back in and put in some pavements or something to generate a crosswalk? HR. ARCHIBALD= We may. Let's keep An mAnd that there's a liability question that I thi~k that's been brought up. All of the crosswalks that we're provAding are at the intersections. What we've attempted to do As design and discourage crossing the roadway between open medians or between intersections. What we're finding now is thnt people are stall crossing and walking through the landscaped medians. Again, I've got to compare notes with your office and see or make sure that we're aware of those 1ocatAons and see whether or not we want to continue to dAsco~rage that or whether or we want to go ahead and install some kind of median crosswalk. UNKNOWN SPEAKER= It's hard to enforce Jaywalking, OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 ? 8 9 lO 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 28 so to speak, if you don't have a designated area. What we're faced with in this community is that there Is no designated area at this point in time to direct those people to and that's the problem we're running into. The sooner we can do that, an~ the time to evaluate that is not in December when everybody's gone, it's now. MR. ARCHIBALD= Could I meet you after this meeting and possibly you could show ms on our drawings some of those locations. UNKNOWN SPEAKER: MR. FRED THOMAS: closed off the medians, traffic. that area. I SUre You got to remember, when you you are controlling the vehicle You got a high rate of pedestrian traffio In When you're coming down those streets and you want to get to the other side of let Street and you haven't got a median cut, do you understand, you're going to be hard pressed to get any pedestrian to walk two blocks out of the way, one down and one back up, to get across the street. They're not going to do it. MR. ARCHIBALD: We know we've got two locations like that, there may be more. I think from a safety standpoint, we need to take a look at whether or not if we provide for mid block pedestrian movements, whether or OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS~ COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2O 21 22 23 29 not there's appropriate lighting and markings, Yes, ma'am, mfimo~ SP~kKER: On Main Street, we do not have the median and therefore we see the people coming. With this new median, the people dart in and out of the streets which is very dangerous, very dangerous. MR. ARCHIBALD= $ome~hing that we've been concerned about from the very design and concept of it, something we're attempting to monitor and, in fact, one reason why the type of median, landscaping you have is to in fact discourage that indiscriminate use. Overall, in some areas it's been good and in others we've got some problems to address. Thank you. MS. SMITH: As being on the member co~ittee for the Immokalee Lighting and Beautification District, I would like to invite any of you with concerl~s on this because we have discussed It before at different meetings and we have taken, at this time, the option not.to put any in because of budgetary constraints, because of liability reasons but our next meeting is for February 9th. If any of you with any further concerns would come to our meeting we can look at our master plan and we can make any improvements to try to solve this problem, you OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 lO 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2o 21 22 23 3o know, I welcome your presen.=e. COMMISSIONER MATTHEWS ~ mathematical error, I guess. I'd like to correct a Earlier Hr. Archibald was saying that the two, one hundredths of a mill increase, it,s only fifty cents a year. So, the increase will be somewhere between 50 cents and $1.00, not $5.00 and $10.00. So, it's a very small and nominal Anttease Af At occurs at all. MS. SMITH: If there's no more comments or questions on lighting, we'll move on to the courthouse complex. Would you please provide us an update as to completion date of possible upgrading of serrates provided to the community and where particular offices will be moved around or if they'll stay where they're at? CHAIRMAN CONSTANTINE: I think Tom Conrecode from our office at capital projects would do that best. MR. CONRECODE: Good evening and thank you for the invitation for the town hall meeting tonAght. The improvements at the Immokalee Courthouse annex site are numerous and they're going to occur An a number of stages offering some improvements of service. What I would do is offer the clerk of courts to OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 speak to some of the specific services that he w111 address through the expansion of services and I'll Just talk in more general terms. The first phase of improvement, you've all seen under construction out there, and that's Immokalee Emergency Services Center, will house a transport EMS unit, in addition to new offices for the sheriff's department substation. At the completion of the construction of that facility in May, of this year, the sheriff's department will move into the new facilities and we'll begin asbestos abatement work on portions of the old courthouse facility. At the completion of that, the courthouse facilit~ will be expanded by 3,000 square feet with upgrades to court facilities, offices for the tax collector, clerk of courts and court services and in the case of the tax collector and probation, warrants and civil, it's essentially Just expanding existing services within that enlarged facility. In the case of courts, I would ask Paul Brigham, to correct me if I'm wrong, but it essentially provides for misdemeanor court from one day a week to possibly OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 5 6 '7 8 9 11 12 '13 14 15 ].6 17 18 19 2O 21 22 23 additional days per week to include Jury trials and there's discussion of an extension of the Guardian Ad Litem Program that currently operates out of the Collier County Courthouse. The clerk services, again, to any of the specifics for you. they're providing today, the court records for processing, processing passport applications to I would ask him to speak The two basic services include a number of things like marriage licenses, some marriage ceremonies and the filing of court documents in those facilities. So, subject to any questions or some elaboration by the clerk or by the head of cottrt ad~inistrat~on department. The completion of entire facility is scheduled for a year from now. MR. DWIGHT BROCK: My office LB Antending to expand the services for the eastern portion of the county and the Immokalee area to include all of those services that we presently provide in the wtstern portion of the county, that being, in Naples. The first thing that we're going to implement is immediately, even before the facility, the new facility is completed, we're going to ~mplement the f~ling of OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 33 domestic violence petitions here. I'm working with Judge Blackwell currently to implement a program to put that into place. That will take place, even prior to, the new facility opening. We're also going to expand the services to include the child support trust program which is where we collect child support and pass it on to the recipient. That will take effect even before the new facility is open. Once the new facility is open, we hope to, at that point in time, accept legal documents for recordation, we hope to accept pleadings for the courts in this county. Those will be transported, then, from this facility to the Naples facility for storage, except such times as they're needed for court proceedings out in the .lastern portion of the county. My objective inthe very near future is to provide all of the services in the eastern portion of the county that we presently provide in Naples. UNKNOWN SPEAKER= Would the recording of court documents include notice of commencements? MR. DWIGHT BROCK= That's correct. I'm talking about the official records recordation which are the things that you go to the courthouse for, such as notice OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 $ 6 7 8 9 lO 1'1 "12 13 15 16 17 19 20 2~ 22 23 of commencements, deeds, mortgages and things of that nature as well as the filing of legal pleadings such as complaints and things of that nature. name. UNKNOWN SPEAKER: MR. DWIGHT BROCK= I had a couple people ask me your I'm sorry, my name is Dwight Brock, I'm the Clerk of Court here in Collier County. UNKNOWN SPEAKER= Is the recording of the deeds on a real time basis where you would actually get your priority established? MR. DWIGHT BROCK= That's correct. We are presently doing the program updating which will automate the recordation process so it will make no difference where you are in this county. When you 'walk into one of my offices it will, at that point in time, go into the system and be dated. As well as opening, hopefully opening, facilities in the Immokalee area, I'm also working in conjunction with the tax collector, Guy Carlton, in trying to provide as many services as I can in his outlying offices such as Green Tree, Golden Gate and places of that nature. UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Just on the law enforcement side so that some of the people will know, that will also OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY~ NAPLES~ FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 35 include filing for protection for injunction of the people here, restraining orders and other things so they wouldn't have to drive over there. HR. DWIGHT BROCK= When I say that we are planning on implementing domestic violence, that is exactly what we're talking about, where you can get i___~__ediate relief with a temporary injunction form by walking down to the courthouse. Hopefully, we haven't formalized the process but I've been discussing this with Judge Blackwell and hopefully the process will take place through the Fax machine, to the courthouse in Naples where the Judge will immediately act upon the petition and issue a temporary injunction which will be enforceable at that point. Until such time as they start dealing with the actual court proceedings in Collier Coullty and I~okalee area, all of the activity of the Judges will take place in the Naples Courthouse but because of the ability to communicate through Fax machine, I'm hoping that won't make any difference in real Yes, ma'am. UNKNOWN SPEAKER: time application. Is it foreseeable in my lifetime that we would get civil ccitt hearings out here. MR. DWIGHT BROCK: You will have to discuss that OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 with Mr. Brigham but I see him shaking hie head in the affirmative. Any other questions? Thank you. MR. BRIGHAM= Good eYantng, my name is Paul Brigham and I'm the court administrator for the county. To answer your question, specifically, the county Judges at some point in the future will begin to handle a number of the small claims actions he=e, the land condemnation cases here or land taking cases and domestic violence cases, where appropriate, will be handled out here in Immokalee. We're asking that this new facility be built in such a way that it will be ready for Jury trials and a number of actions need to take place before a Jury trial will be able to take place here in Immokalee but the building will be built for that purpose. So, civil actions will be able to be tried and taken care of here in Immokalee also. UNKNOWN SPEAKER: What is the poeeibllity of the Guardian Ad Litem being expanded out here? MR. BRIGHAM: In this new construction there will be office space afforded for the Guardian Ad Litem Program and other court services and we hope to begin OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2o 21 22 23 37 some kind of coordination of that program from the new facilities next year where the coordinator will be here at least one day a week to help with training of volunteers and inviting folks from the community to get involved in these programs and to manage their case load. Just like the clerk of courts office and all the other county offices, we will offer as many services out here as we do in the main courthouse complex. MS. SMITH: If that's all on the courthouse complex, we'll move on to Juvenile crime and Justice. Could the commission please update us on the boot camp facility and the role you will be playing in it as to possible funding or what have you? We have a group coming forward, I guess. MR. BRIGHAM: For the actual presentation on our boot camp facility, we have Sal Gardino, the coordinator of mediation/arbitration and Juvenile arbitration for the county here, Doug Caperton from the Sheriff's office and Sergeant Hansen. They will talk about the activities of the drill camp and a little bit on the Juvenile Justice council. We need to putthe drill camp in a wider context though. The sheriff isn't Just out there promoting this OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 2 3 4, 5 6 7 8 9 '10 11 12 14 15 16 17 18 19 2O 21 22 23 38 idea. This is Just one the many servicee that need to be offered and will be offered for Juveniles. The involvement of Juveniles in the court system often times begins in what we call dependency court where the children are being taken away from the parents because of parent's neglect or abuse. The challenge for the courts and challenge for the community is that ? out of lO of these children who are dependents will become delinquents. Seventy percent of the hundred or so dependent children we have in this county, last year, will come back to delinquency court and adult penalty court in the years to come. The importance of the drill camp is at one end of the spectrum but on the other end of th~ spectrum is the Juvenile Justice gang council is their activity and their activity is to examine all services that we offer for children, to examine all activities that we have in place for the rehabilitation of children from the time that they are dependents until the time that they're adults. So, I'd like Doug to say a few words about the drill camp. MR. CAPERTON: I'd like to thank you for allowing us to Join you tonight for your town meeting. I'm going OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERSt COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2O 21 22 23 39 to turn it over, first of all, to Sal Gardino who is a representative of the Juvenile gang council to give you a little bit of an update as to what's going on with the gang council and then we'll get drill camp itself. Sal. MR. GARDIN0= into specifics on the Thank you, Lieutenant. Good evening commissioners, and county manager and residents of Immokalee. One aspect of the Juvenile gang counsel has been to develop a continuum of services for the delinquency problem that exists in Collier County. The gang counsel itself is composed of a number of members of the community, many of which are mandated by statute to be on this committee and we welcome any community support and any member of the community to become involved in the county program to help in designing and maintaining a continuum of services for Juveniles. My role in the committee has been one of what do we need to do. With my background in delinquency that we're looking to input, my role is to input ae well. The key to Chapter 39 on continuum services as been the word evaluation. Up until this point, most of the Juvenile programs that exist state wide, in and within Collier OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 4O County, lack the word evaluation. Are these programs effective, are they efficient in their service delivery, are they rehabilitating, are they maintaining children in their homes. We have set up five committees to take a look at each program in Collier County. What are they doing specifically? We developed a prevention program, early education program, that's one. Number two, we developed a legislative plan so if there's any legislation that needs to be looked at we can help out with Chapter 39 and any rules of civil procedure that may be required to change within the statute. I want to touch on that briefly be~:ause if a child's in trouble, there's very little the court can do to a step-parent. In many delAnquencies that we have come from broken homes. Not that that is the only variable in delinquency, there's a number of variables that are involved in delinquency. I want to touch on what Hr. Brigham said about delinquency. A number of years ago, I completed a study for HRS, Health and Rehabilitative Services in delinquency and almost 80 percent of the children that we had in commitment facilities were directly from the OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2o 21 22 23 41 protective services or a foster care home which means that there was a abuse neglect referral that was found, it was valid and these children were identified early on in the system which makes a key for anybody in the committee to keep in mind that we want to help our children, we want to resolve the delin~uency problems, we need to take a good look at what's behind the system. If we can save many of the kids in foster care or many of the children that are in protective letvices, we'll end up committed to children in a delinquency program. We need to take a strong look at that and design programs to further then in the system in a positive way. We have a detention and commitment facility as well and an Aftercare Program as well. Aftercare is really, symbolically, a parole program. The kids are released from a detention facility or commitment facility and they're placed on a status called Aftercare. Aftercare to me really begins when a child is first committed or identified as apossibll commitment for delinquency matter. Up until this point, really nothing happens to a family when a kid is in commitment. When a child is released from a commitment facility he's OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 3. 2 3 4 ? 9 '10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 23. 22 23 42 returned directly home. There's no interventions that have been done with the family, no counseling procedures, no follow-up with this child. So, Aftercare is crucial as far as maintaining a child in its home and for the community to believe in the word rehabilitation. The boot camp, we're going to turn over to Sergeant Hansen as well as Lieutenant Caperton, will explain the boot camp philosophy. Collier County is in need of a commitment facility. Host children, now, when co-mitred to a delinquency program by HRS through the court system will not be in Collier County. The nearest commitment facility that we have is the Price Halfway House in Fort Myers. The second one is in Arcadia called Mayakka, they may have changed the name recently so I don't want to be c/1/oted on that, but these programs, if a family is involved in a delinquency matter, the community's quite a ways away. If anything, the court needs to take a look at this. I've discussed this with Judge Blackwell, briefly, but we need to maintain these kids in commitment with parental contact. I'm going to turn that over to Doug Caperton to explain the boot camp as well as Jimmy Hansen. : · OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES. FL 33962 1 3 5 6 '7 8 9 lO 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2o 21 22 :23 43 SERGEANT HANSEN: Good evening. It's a pleasure for me to be here with you tonight. My purpose 1s to, in the three minutes I'll spend with you, is to kind of frame things into prospective on Juvenile crime so that you have a better understanding of why the sheriff has designed his boot camp to be the way it is. If you look at a hundred kids that are arrested, the recidivism rate is only 35 to 40 percent. surprisingly, most kids that are arrested are not rearrested. The kids that come back, though, the 40 percent that do come back, about half of those kids will be arrested two to three more times but then the bottom half, which is about 20 percent, will b~come serious habitual offenders. They are the kids that will be arrested anywhere from 10 to 50 times. There are some communities that have children very young who have been arrested over 70 times. So, the message is clear is that the system, as it exists today, is incapable of dealing with that kind of child. The other study shows that when you take that small group, that 20 percent, studies show that 99.9 percent of those kids virtually every one of those children will become career adult criminals. So, the pattern is clear OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 ,1 3 5 6 7 9 lO 11 12 13 15 '16 17 18 :19 2o 21 22 2'~ early. The average age of first arrest for these kids ie 12 years old. That's the average time. Some of them are younger, some as early as seven or eight years old. In fact, X'11 tell you that Xmmokalee has a young resident, a young man, who has been arrested S0 times. He Just turned 11 and there are four or five kids that are Immokalee area residents that are within that area, 12, 13 years old, that are up to 3S, 40, SO arrests. So, your community suffers, all communities suffer from this. It's clear that when these kids are waiving that red flag and saying, #~ need help and if I don't get help I'm going to do something bad.", we need to respondent appropriately. This boot camp is Just a part of ~hat program. The boot camp in Mamatee County which has received quite a bit of publicity on T.V., and newspapers and everything is working and seems to be effective. The Jury is still out on its recidivism rate. There hasn't been that much time to study how many kids are coming back but it seems to be effective. The problem is, is that by HRS standards, it only takes level eight kids. Level eight kids are averaging between 12 to 20 arrests before they get to that boot OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 13 15 16 17 18 19 2O 21 22 23 45 camp. We think that that'n entirely too late. What we would like to do in Collier County what the sheriff has deemed as what he believes is appropriate, is that if a child is arrested the first time, that's a red flag. We know that he's got about a 40 percent chance of coming back. If he comes back, let's do some intensive stuff within the community for the second and third arrest and then if he's arrested a fourth time, that's when he needs to go to the boot camp and that we feel should be the last stop. It should be a 90 day, highly intensive, program that's designed, not only to teach him s.11f-discipline self-reliance but to teach himself self-esteem and to know that when he walks away from that camp that he's accomplished something major and significant and that the community will welcome him back. That's the overall objective of this boot camp. But, we want to bring It down to the fourth arrest. We think that that's important and that's why our camp le going to be different. Now, for the actual specifics of that camp I'm going to turn it over to Lieutenant Caperton. He's going OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2O 21 22 46 to show you the design facility. I'll be holding up posters so I won't be able to answer questions. MR. CAPERTONs There's always a clown somewhere isn't there? Always the clown. Again, thank you for allowing us to be here. What we'd like to do is give you specifics. We've been working on this conceptual program for about a year and a half now so it's not something that the sheriff's or your county co~issioners are Just now thinking of. We would like you to be aware of something that Jim may be overlooking a little bit is that the Juvenile crime rate in Collier County is skyrocketing. I don't want to scare anyone but I do want you to realize that about four years ago, in 1989, we made 727 arrests for Juveniles in this county. This year, excuse me the year Just ending, where are we, somewhere around 1500, almost 1500 arrests. So, you can see that we've doubled the Juvenile crime arrest rate in Collier County. I'd like to also make you aware of something else. Again, not to scare anyone, but the type of crimes these young people are getting involved in are also much more serious. Traditionally, the Juvenile crime was a prank OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 2 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2O 21 22 23 47 type situation or shoplifting or at the worse, or excuse me, stealing someone's car. Now, the standard fair stealing something or breaking into for Juvenile crime is much more violent. We have a lot more auto thefts involving Juveniles which end, in a lot of cases, in high speed chases or some type o£ situations, in high epeed chases but we see a lot more aggravated assaults, quite a few more sexual batteries involving Juveniles, a lot more violence. Now, I don't know whether this comes from T.V., we're all fighting about this or arguing about T.V., violence and different things. We don't: k~ow exactly what all the causes are but we do know something has to be done about it. The sheriff, again, about a year and a half ago asked myself and Jim and a few other people to get together and really come up with ideas as to how to improve things here in Collier County. Our idea, we've run this by some of the county commissioners, not all of them have heard the presentation but for the most part I thir~k they have a good idea what's going on, we made available pamphlets to our proposals, is that we have continuum of services. OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 4 5 6 7 8 9 11 12 13 '14 15 16 '17 '18 19 2o 2'1 22 48 Continuum of services meaning that from arrest number one all the way through to the time they're going to drill or boot camp and then if we feel that they've done the drill camp, boot camp situation, they still are persisting in their criminal ways then there's only one alternative and that is to bind them over to adult court. So, we certainly feel that it's time for the community of Collier County to take a lead role in dealing With Juvenile crime and showing the youth of this community~ number one, we care and number two, that we're not going to put up with Juvenile criminal acts. It's Just time that we do something about it. So, our proposal is that we, from first arrest through fourth or fifth arrest deal with these kids and if they get to the point being a fifth arrest, that's what we're coming in tonight and giving you an update. Our proposal, basically, is that for a number of reasons, and I'll give you these reasons off the top of my head and certainly ask q~estions as we go through it. We decided to incorporate the drill or boot camp at the Immokalee stockade. These are primarily economical reasons. Number one, we don't have to go out and purchase new property. OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 2O 21 22 23 49 ~e can build the additional boot camp facilities rlqht on the property owned by Collier County on the stockade facility site. Number two, is that we can duplicate some services provided by the stockade, duplicate those services to the drill camp will save large amounts of money and those are the laundry services for the Juvenile cadets, the food services, which can be provided by the stockade and medical service which is already provided at the stockade. If we build this, have this concept and build this facility somewhere else in a stand alon,a situation, we would have to provide separate people working in food services, medical and laundry services. So, we're talking about quite a bit of money and savings. Also, of course, if Collier County had to go out and purchase additional property, it's going to cost, again, a lot more money. The most inexpensive way to get this, and the fastest way I might add, to get this drill camp up and running to use modular units and I'll show you blow up of this, the actual concept. This is the actual stockade facility, okay. Here's County Barn Road here in OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 Immokalee. We're talking about putting a new entrance in to the south of your current facility, I b~lieve it's the south, if I'm not mistaken, and then put in -- actually, you see the residence and office areas. This residence and office area will be coming in, in six modular units. It will be fastened together, making 30 individual rooms for these drill camp cadets, office space for the commander and the other office personnel. That's a real simple concept. It's very inexpensive and all we need for the actual facility to house these young men. We also need a facility to act as a classroom, a visiting room on visiting days and a place where they can eat. That will be three classrooms or three modular areas put together to accomplish that. Then, a lot of what the drill camp or boot camp concept is, it's a military style where they have shaved heads, wear uniforms, up at 5=00 in the morning and in bed at 9=00. It runs very mandatory. They can't wait to get in'bed. The main thing you need to understand, it's not Just a military concept. It's not -- first of all it's discipline, a change or break the spirit and rebuild the spirit. The main concept of the Juvenile boot camp is to OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 4 5 6 7 8 9 lo 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2o 21 22 ;23 51 educate. One of things, of course, we would have to work out is we're working very closely by the way with the Collier County School System is to provide a teaching staff. We've already got an agreement with the Collier county School System to provide all the staff we need for education and counseling on an educational level. We're going to have to come up with some type of computer modular lab, however, to allow these children, young juveniles to receive an education. I spent two weeks at the Manetee County Boot Camp on representing Sheriff Hunter Just get~.ing a better idea. I must say before I went to Manetee County Boot Camp I was somewhat skeptical as to how a boot camp may work. I can come back and report to you that after spending two weeks and seeing these people from the time they came in to the time they were reacting to what was supposed to be done, in two weeks, and they're there for four months, I was quite impressed with the overall operation. We're talking about saving people's lives here. We're not only talking about saving lives, we're talking about saving you large amounts of money. OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 4 6 7 8 9 lo 11 ].2 :14 :15 16 '~7 19 2o 21 22 23 52 You have to think for Just a moment, would you rather spend a sum of money now in dealing with the Juvenile offender that needs to be turned around, turning them around or would you rather spend that money and warehouse him for a long period of time, as Jim said, once he becomes an habitual offender. Believe you don't want to know the cost. What you do probably want to know, you already know what we spend on housing people in our state prison system today and it's not working. We all can agree to that, I think. Another thing we will have to have, of course, that we're suggesting to build is an obstacle course. Strong bodies, strong minds is one of the sayings they use in drill camps. Men end women that have been in the military, I'm sure, you remember obstacle courses. They tend to do a lot towards making a person strong and providing a sound mind. Also, having what pole barn area (Phonerio), that's open where you can have classes on the outside that has a roof over the area, is the plan for this area. Now, we don't have an exact cost as yet. We've done the mark up. We've gotten preliminary cost estimates but we don't know for sure. If we change this modular concept to a full OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4: 5 6 ? ~0 ~2 13 ~5 l? ~9 2O 21 23 53 blown concrete situation, course, the cost will vary. those. something that's permanent, of So, we're looking at both of Another thing that we're doing also, of course, to have this facility you're going to have to have a staff. We're looking and are about to come up with the costs of not only for the physical layout of the facility but also what we call the operation costs, cost of staff, food, medicine, cost of providing uniforms for these young people and all of the variable costs that go along with it, electric, water, whatever. So, that's basically where we're at now. We're making progress, I'm happy to report and we are working very closely with the Juvenile gang council to make sure that this project works. I also would like to report that we've been working very closely with Mike Dolan who is the district representative for the Juvenile task force from HRS. We have been certified, not only by the Collier County Juvenile Gang council and HRS and the regional or district gang council for a certification for a need for the facility. They certainly say that Collier County needs their own facility and that's basically the update. OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 2 3 6 7 8 9 10 '!1 12 13 ~4 15 16 18 '19' 2O 2~ 22 23 54 We can be more specific if you'd like on some subjects. UI~ENO~ SPEAKER: Have y'all concept, alternative, as opposed to going to concrete going to ~he tents? MR. CAPERTON: We are looking at the tent side. One of the ~hings that you run into a little bit of a problem with tents is the problem of security, okay. Although, I can say that the facility in Mariatee is a very basic structure and the cost, which was pretty minimal compared to permanent tents, we don't know if that's really going to be a good concept. Although, the sheriff's all in favor of tents. These guys, you do need to remember, if we have tents they need to be individually roomed tents and here's the reason for that. Primarily, if you put these people in the military, the number of you, can I see a show of hands, remembering back in the military, you were barracks for basic training in boot camp so you could interact.with other people. ~hat they try to do in a boot camp concept or drill camp concept is to isolate these people 24 hours a day from interacting with each other. They're certainly welcome to interact with drill instructors, they're OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 4 § 6 ? 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2o 21 22 welcome to interact with the teachers but we've found, and we've looked around at the different concepts, there have been some that have been in the barracks type of situation or tent situation. What they're finding out is that they're having a lot more failure rate because they can talk about their criminal past. They can interact, even though they're ordered by the rules not to be involved with each other and talk about their criminal past, if they're left alone in a barracks type set up or tent type set up with bunk beds, you don't have enough staff to really control. What we're trying to do is isolat~ them, put them in an area where they're studying on their own, sitting by themselves. They have their own private little area that they're required to keep, believe me, keep spic and span and it's a real hard concept to enforce in a tent situation. So, that's why we're leery of that. UNKNOWN SPEAKEr: Will this facility be female and male Juvenile offenders? MR. CAPERTON: Initially, no. We're talking about Just males and that's because about 85 to 90 percent of the people we would be servicing would be male. We are talking about if we expand, and we have current area, we OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 56 can expand that garden area, remove the fence, relocate the fence and expand and put another housing area in there for another portion of what we're trying to do. HRS wants to go through a partnership with the county commission, with the people of Collier County; we work, we provide the land and then some money and funding and HRS will provide also, much larger amount I might an. They want to make sure that they're working as a partnership and basically we Just, in working the numbers ma'am, we Just don't see at this point girls should be housed in an area like this. We J,~st don't have enough people. It would take additional number of security for these young ladies and to be very honest with you, the crimes by females are increasing but they haven't increased, like the ones we were talking about fourth and fifth arrests having more than one or two arrests. UNKNOWN SPEAKER~ At the present time then, the only facility females is An Fort Myers, ie that true? MR. CAPERTON: Myers, yes, ma'am. UNKNOWN SPEAKER~ staff to provide The detention facility is in Fort How many days will you keep them OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 '2 4 6 7 8 9 lO 11 "1:2 14 15 16 17 :1.8 '19 2o 21 22 57 in there? MR. CAPERTON; There's not a most or a least. When they come into the camp, first of all, they're screened through HRS and law enforcement to make sure they're going to work out and be able to be in this camps that means they have to be in good physical health. We're not going to take people who have been convicted of sexual battery, those go, they're not allowed under this program to be there. But, ~t's a 120 day program, no ~f, ands or buts. Now, that's the minimum. They basically are co~itted for one year. They're committed for one year to this program. They spend four days An this intens~ve dr~11 camp. After that, they have Aftercare and that's probably Just as important ~f not more ~mportant than the dr~11 camp. They come from an environment that needs to be changed either through their home or people they're hanging around with or whatever and so a good concept, that's a strong concept, of Aftsrcars~ working with them, working with their parents or guardians is necessary. we will have to work through HRS and make sure but basically what's happening An other boot camps is that OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTYw NAPLES, FL 33962 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2o 21 22 23 they stay for four months, they're released from a halfway type program for another 60 to 90 days where they stay in that program from 7:30 in the morning and receive their education Just like they received here, not through their public school or their private school, and then get home at about 9:00 o'clock at night, wear and ankle bracelet, monitoring device, and stay pretty much in an isolation situation. After they've proven that they can do what they're supposed to do, we're still talking six to seven months now, then they're allowed to slowly simulate back into their school but they're still required to be home at a particular time, 9:00 o'clock curfew, maximum. After that nine or ten month period, we give them a little rope, if you will, and hopefully they're not going to hang themselves. Does that answer your question? Yes, sir. UNKNOWN SPEAKER: As a former police officer, I don't think the community can afford to not get involved in the concept. If the logistics can be worked out, there's one other prospect that you didn't mention but I'm sure you're very well aware of that probably wasn't mentioned, the cost factor of victims of these crimes, OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS~ COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 8 17 18 19 20 21 23 S9 how do you measure, I've seen it hundreds of time as well as you, how do you measure the cost factor to the victim whose mother's been run over by some kid who stole some car? How do you measure the lost productivity of those kids? There's so many cost factors to society by not doing it. I think we have to seriously consider any alternative. This appears to be a very good one. MR. CAPERTON= Yes, ma'am. MS. SMITH= What was your reasoning behind choosing the fifth offense instead of going by the rule, three strikes you're out? MR. CAPERTON: Under the current system for Juveniles, it's not three strikes, it's about 12 to 15 strikes you're out. We have to be able to work in cooperation with HRS, ma'am. They will not go for a drill camp situation, there's no way they would or legislature would agree to three arrests. Now, let me back up a minute and preface this. If it's three serious arrests, three felony arrests, it's very possible but we're talking about the average of, they start out with misdemeanors, smaller crimes and move into larger crimes. This is not always the case, Jim, help me if I'm wrong here, but it appears to us that's OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 5 6 8 10 11 3.2 13 14 15 16 1'7 18 19 20 21 22 23 6O the way. Strictly saying that thres strikes you're out, no. After five arrests, maybe not, maybe some of these kids, they're first one or two arrests for shoplifting, it seems to get worse and worse. So, it's really going to depend on e group of people that review these young people's records and see that because of some of the things that they're into that it's rims, that some of the things that they shouldn't be doing are being done and it's time that they go to boot camp. So, It may be three strikes you're out for some of them. MS. SMITH= I don't know if you mentioned it, I didn't hear some of it, how would you get the fuAding? MR. CAPERTON= How are we getting funding? Basically, we can apply for funding through HRS if we show a good faith effort through the sheriff, county commission or any other funding mechanisms we can come up with, to provide, let's say, land, which we're proposing we do, provide some costs possibly the cost for the actual, physical layout and then HRS, this isn't speoifio because we haven't stricken an agreement with them yet, have HRS provide the lion's share of the money, which OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY~ NAPLES~ FL 33962 2 5 6 '7 8 9 10 11 12 13 15 16 17 18 19 2O 21 22 23 61 would be operational costs. That's basically a partnership between the local community and the state for leaders of HRS to say, eyes, Collier County has proven that they want to get involved Just like Lee County did". Another example, Lee County is opening their facility the First of next month. It will be a 30 bed drill camp, also it will be a 60 bed commitment type area. It's being run by a private organization out of Massachusetts, I believe, if I'm, correct. I don't know how that's going to work. I don't know about that concept. The concept I do know about is the concept that the Manetee County Sheriff's Office is using and that is that basically the sheriff's office, under the auspices of the county commission, run the drill camp, staff the drill camp and make sure it works. All I can say is what I've seen from that concept it is working very, very well. Their program has been in effect for almost a year now and they've had 120 graduates. They've had, of that 120 graduates, I don't know about today but I talked to the commander Just a couple days ago, they've had three recldivisms. That's unheard of, folks. They shouldn't have had any, I wish OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 '2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 lO 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2o 21 22 23 they wouldn't have had. For the most part they keep then on the straight and narrow. One way to keep them on the straight and narrow, if they sneeze wrong, they're back in. A deputy from the Mamatee County Sheriff's Office is at their house, picks then up, and they're back in the drill camp in the amount time the commander deems necessary. A little story for you. A young man who had graduated from the drill camp, had done his four months, done pretty well while he was there, refused to live where they told him he needed to live and that was with his grandmother. Number one, she had a telephone so they could contact him on a regular basis to make sure he was doing what he was supposed to do and number two, his mother let him do basically what he wanted to do, when he wanted to do it, and where he wanted to do it and his grandmother would not. He refused to live with his grandmother so the commander called him and told him that he should have himself on the front doorstep of his grandmother's home at a particular time and after about 20 minutes after the phone conversation, he was coming back to the drill camp, he was there. That's unheard of folks. OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 ,4 5 6 7 9 1]. '13 14 /.5 16 17 19 2o 21 22 23 63 We tall people stuff like that in Collier County, we find them two years later after they finally decide to turn themselves in. They've hooked into these young people and it seems to be working. MS. SMITHs It's my understanding in t~lking with one of the people on the Juvenile Justice co~ittae that the proposed funding was prepared to presented before the commission, I believe it was last Tuesday, soma time in the past and it was postponed. MR. CAPERTON: It was because, I think, the commission, and correct me if I'm wrong, the commission wanted to have a better figure, a more exact figure from US. CHAIRMAN CONSTANTINE= There was a request for a specific amount of money to be set aside but there was not proposal and no budget. We simply said when you have your proposal and your budget, come back. I don't anticipate any problem of funding, at least, from the Any other questions? When do you suppose this would be Wall, God be with us, and the thing county commission. UNKNOWN SPEAKERs in operation? OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 ,1 2 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2o 21. 22 23 64 works out, we're hoping, I'l probably speaking out of turn here, the sheriff should be answering thie ~uestion but we're hoping within the next yearl earlier than that if possible. UNKNOWN SPEAKER= Do you think the sheriff ~nthe future would perhaps entertain spending dollars that he needs to house prisoners, perhaps more on a concept like this rather than the fancy motel rooms that we're building at an astronomical costs? I say that because as a past commissioner and planning board, I'm a member of the planning board, I recently saw the dollar figure ~t was going to take in the future for this county to build more prison beds. At the rate we've been spending on beds ~t'e Just a figure I don't think any of us can live with. You know, therefore, prison camps, there use to be prison camps and we turned them into luxurious suites and I was Just wondering if perhaps we might focus in the future back to thie concept? MR. CAPERTON: I think the fair way to answer your question would be to say that if the federal goverrment allows us to, I think that the sheriff in Collier County and a lot of others sheriffs around this state and nation OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 3 5 6 7 8 9 lo :1.'1 :12 :1.:3 14 15 16 17 18 19 2o 2:1. 22 23 65 would be more than willing. The problemwe run into, and I'm sure you have some knowledge of this, we are mandated to do X, Y and Z with these prisoners. We're mandated to serve them so many calories in a meal and we get all kinds of lawsuits even though we're serving them good food; to provide them with their colored television sets, to provide them air controls so it's not too hot. Believe me, we're not happy about having to spend money to provide additional space than you are. If the federal government allows us to move back on what we're required to do, I think, probably the sheriff would be more than happy to build one similar to this. UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Maybe you could say a shor~ word about, with the third and fourth offenders. You said something about the community being more involved, you know, action, direct action in the community for something like the boot camp. Could you give Just a word on what that's about and what we need. SERGEANT HANSEN~ On the second arrest, we're hoping for a teen court to be implemented. That seems to be effective. We looked at a couple ¢o~unittes in Texas OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 19 2O 66 that has teen courts. The third arrest, we're 1ooktng at something called CADET which is uniquely our ow11, it stands for Collier Action for Delinquent Endangered Teens. What we want is the complete co~unity involvement for these kids. It's like the last step before they go to boot camp. Say you had a child who was interested in aviation. Part of this program, not only would we have punishments and those kinds of things, but the community would take them in, they could work at the airport and get some flying time and have mentors that would apprentice them and learn values. Everywhere he went he would have a role model to impart those values we know need to be imparted. It would be like a co~unity parenting concept. So, it's kind of a broad program we're looking at implementing. We have things in place for it but we think that that kind of thing is what's necessary to reduce the recidivism rate at that level. We'll mandate sports programs. For example, if the kid wants to play football and can't get there, we have the Kiwanis Club. They would arrange to transport him there, have his football gear bought for him and say, "Look, if you don't OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 6 7 9 lO 11 12 13 15 16 17 18 19 2o 21 22 23 67 do good, if you quit, you're cominq back to court". Those are the kind of thingel It's a whole broad program to address all those needs, a variety. Amongst those things too, it's like there's an old folks home in Naples, I'm missing the name right now. We would put them there, take care of some of the old people, interact with some of the old people and that could be fair, retarded kids, handicapped kids, those are beneficial to both. We're looking at creating that. UNKNOWN SPEAKERs Just one of the parts already mentioned here in reference to victims and the cost of what a victim's, as to someone being hurt or his property being destroyed and going over the cost in-house, prison to give them a color T.V., and some air conditioning. One of the things you have this year that's put before you is Juveniles who are offenders fifty times within their system. Now, where an adult becomes an offender, habitual offender, after three crimes as co~itted as an adult, if he's convicted of a crime three times he becomes an habitual offender. Now, we're looking at price costs of building new prisons and here you're looking at a system of what you want to do is prevent those kids to getting OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 '11 12 '13 '!5 16 17 18 19 2O 21 22 23 into that system. If this system happens to be successful then you're not going to have.the expense of building other prisons. So, it's like a mechanic taking care of your car. later. You either pay me now or you pay me This program is like a pay me now thing where your kids are within this system. You've got a prevention here and it's called preventative maintenance and that's what's being proposed to you. You do preventive maintenance now and you won't have this particular child that you have to build that additional prison for him to go into. So, that's an aspect you're going to be looking at. MR. CAPERTON: Okay, we know that there's other things that need to be said. Anything from the commissioners? Any questions or anything? MS. SMITH: Next, we'll move on to urgent health care for Im~okalee. Could you please update us on the planning and funding for the new urgent care facility as well as the possible start and completion date? DR. AUSDON: Thank you, Denise. I'm Bill Ausdon and I direct the Isabel Collier-Reed Immokalee Health Park and what I'd like to OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 B 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 69 do first is explain exactly what that is, where we hope to go and some of the obstacles that may be in the way of where we'd like to go. In the back is a model of what we see, the complete complex, assuming we're able to complete all the facets of this. The facility on the site towards the door over there is the currently completed center, that's Phase One, Phase Two and Phase Three, I'll explain & bit more to you. I think it's extremely important to point out that although the Naples Community Hospital is strongly involved in this endeavor, this project can not continue and would not be where we are now without the participation of Collier County, state government and some of the federal funds that we're receiving. We started this segment of planning about three years ago with numerous efforts to improve the health care situation in Immokalee bu~ the current, I became involved in this particular effort in 1990. What we've decided to do is to come out and help the facilities who are out here to have more space, to have more physicians, more nurses, to practice medicine. The first facility that we have recently finished and OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 "1 2 4 6 7 8 9 10 12 14 15 "16 17 '18 19 2O 21 22 70 moved into in July was done in con~unctton with the Collier Health Services, Inc., which is now known as the Mary E. Fetter Medical Center. We felt like the least expensive way to provide health care is to start with ambulatory care, preventive care, do up front those things that try to keep patients from entering into the system. We're very fortunate to have had land donated, I think most of you here would know where the land is, Collier enterprises gave us 24 acres to build the entire complex that we intend to build on. The first building is a 45,000 square foot building that houses Collier Health Services, Ino., on the bottom floor. Our offices are on the top floor. The Second Phase which will be in the middle in the behind part of this project will be a 45,000 square foot building on one level. It will house titgent care, occupational therapy, physical therapy, x-ray, more diagnostic and hopefully some subspecialty care out here also. The State has funded 2.7 million dollars to help start the second phase. We have gone to the community and will be going to the community more, there's OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 71 building within the next month at least. Immokalee, an I~mokalee group, many of whom are here now who are attempting to help raise funds to not only build the buildings that we currently have planned but hopefully a small inpatient hospital down the line. The 2.7 million dollars is basically less than half of the cost of the next facility. The main reason for the cost, we are building at hospital specifications so it can be attached on to an in-bed facility so we'll be able to get the appropriate permission and so forth to move ahead. As far as when the second phase which is, as I say, already funded, will start, we basically have the funding in place with the 2.7 million from the state with several donors. Ms. Isabel Collier-Reed has been a major donor and continues to be a major donor to this project. We have the dollars to build the project and we will start on it as soon as all the permitting is done. Basically, we're held up, as you know, on the current building about nine months, about six to nine months by the Scrub Jay, an occasional tortoise on the land. So, those held us up q~ite a while. We are ready to build, we hope to start the From the time OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 5 6 7 8 9 lo 1:1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 '19 2o 21 22 23 72 of building until the time talking about a year or so. particular time of completing, start the building. of using and operation, we're We're a year within this depending on when we can Now, Phase Two, we hope within a year of the finishing of the building, to start offering 24 hour a day services out here which you know are badly needed. They're also extremely expensive. We have been able, through a lot of help at the state level, to get the dollars to build the building with. Building buildings are difficult dollars but getting operational dollars are even more difficult. We're going back to the state this year for operational dollars which we hope to be able to get more nursing personnel and more physicians in the program. The first effort was to provide access for those people who did not have access to care. Second, we hope to be able to provide quality medical care and assistant medical care that avery citizen in Immokalee will feel free to go to. The third phase, will be a small inpatient facility. We're looking, at the current time, at approximately 50 beds. As many of you know, the health OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 3396'2 1 2 3 6 7 8 9 lO 12 '13 14 15 '16 '17 19 2o 21 22 23 '73 climate in the State of Florida has changed drastically in this past year, due to new laws and it's going to be changing in the federal levels. We don't know what's going to happen on the federal level but we know what's Manage competition is the happening in Florida level. name of the game. That funding and our plans. We, again, several other entities can slow can not progress without cooperation from various entities. The county government has funded and continued to fund the urgent care. It's still open now only during day times. We're going to look to continued funding when we try to open 24 hours a day. We also have various laws we have to meet. We have impact fees we have to have. The impact and other fees on this particular project by the time we build all three of them is Just under a million dollars. These are county generated type taxes of various kinds. The first part, that is complete, cost $300,000.00 and it will be at least another 600,000 according to our current process to complete the other. There are other issues that need to be corrected before a hospital can be built, the water pressure, the OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 lO 11 12 13 14, 15 16 17 18 19 2o 21 22 23 74 water system needs to be looked at to give adequate pressure to a small hospita~ and to be able to have adequate fire protection and adequate pressure to run a hospital. one of the major supporters out here, I don't fall to recognize them, has been the First Bank of Immokalee. I have been out in Immokalee now for over two years. Our first offices were in the First Bank of Immokalee and we moved out in July into the current facility. The main point I want to reiterate is although the hospital. is totally behind this project, they are an affiliate of Isabel Collier-Read. We're going to need funding many other areas to be able to complete the project. We're going to need to look at the various infrastructure questions in Immokalee to go any further. I'll be happy to answer any questions that you may have about this. Thank you. UNKNOWN SPEAKERs One question. Mostly Just a comment I'd like to extend an invitation to the community on behalf of the fund raising com~ittee that's working in conjunction as a private partner with this effort. There's a meeting on Tuesday afternoon at 5:30 at the new health park and every community, oivio OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 $ 6 7 8 9 lO 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2o 21 22 23 '75 organization and youth organization is invited. Some of you, hopefully, have received your plant a seed for a healthy future in Immokalea invitation. The idea being that everybody be offered the opportunity to participate. It's not so much the amount of money that any one organization may be able to contribute but that everybody be invited. So, please consider yourself invited. DR. AUSDON= Thank you, Denise. MS. SMITHs The last agenda item we have that we wanted to get some response on is the SHIPP funds. I'm going to show my ignorance here, they've been explained to me twice and I still don't understand what they are. So, could you please explain to me how the SHIPP Funds work? I know they're doing something with affordable housing. MR. MAHALIK: Good evening, I'm Greg Mahalik, Director of Housing and Urban Improvement for the county. The SHIPP Funds are confusing. I think they're confusing for everyone. SHIPP stand~ for State Housing Initiative Partnership Program which is a documentary stamp tax which is levied on all property tax transfers within the State. That money used for affordable throughout the state. OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8' 9 ~o 11 "12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2o 21 22 23 '76 The county will receive about $906,000.00 over the next three years to support affordable housing. We have filed a plan with the state to talk about how we'll spend this housing money over the next three years and basically we plan to assist 65, very low income and first time home buyers with impact fee relief on their houses. There some fliers and I'll put them in the back of the room when we're done, but the yellow flier is information about this program. Basically, the income limits depend on the family size, how many people are in the family but you do have to be a first time home buyer, you have to occupy the house as your permanent residence and homestead in it, and you must live there for 15 years to be able to waive the fees forever. Plus, if your income goes up, if you become higher than the limits that are allowed a present ordinance may require you to pay back that money. If you're a family of four and your income is $21,500.00 or less you can waive your impact fees for 15 years. If your income for a family of four is less than about $25,500.00, you can waive 50 percent of your impact fees, that is, not pay them at all, and defer 50 percent OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2O 21 22 23 of your impact fees to be paid when you sell the house. If you're a family of four and your income is up to $34,500.00, you will have to pay 75 percent of your impact fees and you will be allowed to defer 25 percent of those impact fees. We have done 22 impact fee waivers so far. It's a popular program, we're getting a lot of phone calls on it. I'll put the information in the back of the room and please call my office with nors information at 643-4270, the Department of Housing for the county. That's 65 low and very low income household we're going to assist under that program. We're also going to assist 40 very low income home buyers with rehabilitation and emergency repair on their houses. We expect to spend about $200,000.00 on this strategy from SHIPP money. We know that we have houses in poor condition and in need of rehabilitation throughout the county and especially in Immokalee. We have never run a housing rehabilitation like this within Collier County and it's been difficult to get it going and get it started but over the next three years we do expect to assist these households. We are also discussing some of this rehabilitation OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 4 6 '7 9 lO 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2o 21 22 23 78 wt~..h a nonprofit housing agsnc~ that is not located in Collier County but has done work in Collier County in the past. They have access to additional funding and there may be a way to cosine ~heir funding with ou~ SHIPP funding to assist home owners in a more leveraged manner, for higher level, without additional SHIPP funds being used. We're discussing that with them right now. This particular loan will be a zero interest deferred payment loan that you're required to pay back when you sell your house. It will be for very low income home owners~ for instance for a family of four you have to have an income of less than $21,500.00 to qualify for that program. The third major strategy within the SHIPP program, are closing costs and down payment assistance for first time home buyers. We expect to assist 40 low income and very low income first time home buyers with this program. We expect to spend approximately $200,000.00 over the next three years with these initiatives. These will be handled through the financial institutions in Collier County. They will have the paper work. They will be able to assist you in filling out the forms and qualifying you and in making reservations with OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 '7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 79 the Housing and Urban Improvement Office for this money. I also have sheets on this program, they're the pink sheets. We'll place them in the back of the room and you're welcome to pick them up. Again, call the office at 643-4270 for more information. questions. Yes, ma'am. UNKNOWN SPEAKERs I'll answer any Grsg, has the county got any other programs as incentives that would help multi-family rentals or the first time mobile home purchasers. MR. MAHALIK~ Yes, multi-family rentals are not helped within the SHIPP program. There's restrictions on how you can use the money~ for instance, we can not defer impact fees for that. The county is looking into whether we have to pay back impact fee deferrals on multifamily rental buildings and that's being investigated at this time. If we're required to pay back that money, when we have to pay back that money, what can we use funding source to pay back that money. So, that's being looked at right now to assist multifamily rental projects for impact fee deferrals. Unfortunately, none of the SHIPP money can be used for mobile homes at a11. The nonprofit agency that I talked about does have some money that can be allowed to OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNt, NAPLES, FL 33962 2 3 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 15 16 ~7 18 19 2O 21 22 8O be used for mobile homes and I'd like to bring some of that assistance to Collier County for weatherization but at the present time we don't have any programs in place to assist mobile home owners. Other with questions? UNKNOWN SPEAKER= When will this take place, all these programs? MR. MAHALIK= The impact fee program is in place right now. The down payment assistance and closing cost assistance program will start shortly and the rehabilitation program, we've been trying to get into place, I would say probably 60 days away before that program will be in place and may even be longer than that on the rehabilitation. I should say, we're also working with the Farmer's Home Administration that does a lot of financing and mortgages in Immokalee to combine the impact fee or the closing cost and down payment assistance with their program and Fred Thomas is assisting in that and we hope that will be a particular benefit to the I~mokalee community. Any other questions? UNKNOWN SPEAKER= Greg, it might be advantageous to mention, I'm sure a lot of people do know, to mention the advantages of home ownership 'that many of us know, like OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY~ NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 6 7 8 9 '1o 12 :13 14 15 16 17 '~8 19 2o 21 22 81 the income tax, so forth, and the obvious advantage that I'm sure you can elaborate on to the community, that home ownership promotes pride and a set of improved neighborhoods. MR. MAHALIK= In the la:st two years, we've made particular efforts to expand home ownership opportunities throughout the county. It's been fairly successful. Between 20 and 25 percent of the building permits that are pulled now on single family homes have building permit values of less than $70,000.00. This is indeed affordable to families who make $25,000.00 a year and don't have other debts that encumber their existence. So, with the low mortgage rates available right now home ownership is affordable and as Mr. Clark said, it is a way to stabilize your housing costs, allow you to build up equity in your house and give you a nest egg to move on to the next purchase you want to make. Most of the money that we are receiving is going into home ownership programs because we believe that's the correct approach to take. Anything else? Thank you very much. We'll leave the fliers An the back of the room. MS. SMITH= Okay. That was all our agenda items. OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 4" 2 5 6 8 10 '12 14 15 16 '17 '18 19 2O 21 22 At this time I want to give the floor to Mr. Sam Levy. He wanted to make a brief presentation on substance abuse in Collier County schools. MR. LEVYt It's been a long evening and the key word is brief. Welcome to Immokalee. If you're not from Im~okalee but you have a television sat, you might have seen back before Christmas ~e had an unfortunate incident that happened to take place at the Immokalee Middle School where there were seven youngsters who ingested.at the time some unknown substance. They were all transported to Naples Com~unity Hospital, one of them by helicopter. There's been a lot of speculation about what it was they ingested. We now have a chemical analysis of that, the active ingredient in the bottle that we retrieved which we assume was the bottle from which all seven of these young people drank, the active in ingredient is a chemical call Scopolimein (Phonetic). It's & derivative of the plant that is commonly known as the angel trumpet plant. That plant, I understand from botanist friends, has its origin in India but it does grow here. It's an ornamental shrub. In fact, one day this week I saw & OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS~ COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES~ FL 33962 1 4, 5 6 8 9 lO 11 12 '13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2o 21 22 plant, 8 or 10 feet high and had, I would g~ess, b~tween 40 and 70 blossoms on it and it happens to be on a route I frequently travel, yesterday it had none. I can only hope that the person who owned that plant took all those blossoms off and destroyed them and then again I don't know. We're told by the toxicology people that taken in the proper amounts, this stuff can be fatal. It's hallucinogen. It is not, as I understand from our law enforcement contact, it is not on the list of controlled substances and therefore it is not illegal. so, there's a new trick, a new game in town every day but a little more research has discovered that this particular hallucinogen was known in ancient times. If you get an herb book, almost any good herb book will tell you about this particular chemical. As a matter of fact, it used to be used deliberately against ones enemies to make them go crazy. That's what the herb book that I read said. It was an interesting, an interesting few hours we had there, we had our fire chief, perhaps some other folks here who made that response, it's my understanding we had every emergency response vehicle in Immokalee available on the OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2o 21 22 23 scene. It was an attempt to render proper and immediate and urgent care to some young people in this community who had done something that was very foolish. For those of you who may not know , on an attempt to educate or further educate our folks, we met with a group of students that same week to try to give them an opportunity to tell what they were feeling about this incident and how it effected them, the students, their school and their com~unity and to give them good information. There was a lot of information in the media and as generally the case, it was not all entirely accurate. We kept trying to tell folks we didn't know exactly what we were dealing with, somehow the reporters seemed to think they knew. The ingredient, however, was not Deadly Night Shade, as was once reported. I think that's something different I understand. Anyhow, the schools have always taken from the beginning of time when we had drug problems showing up in schools because schools mirror the problems of soolety that we serve so we have the same problems in schools as you've got in society. We've always taken a strong posture against drugs. OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 8 9 13 14 17 18 19 2O 21 22 23 85 We have very strong drugs education programs but it seems like in so many instances, you've heard the Juvenile crime reports and quite often, crime and drug use, substance abuse go hand in hand. It continues to be a problem. I, frankly, do not believe, I Just finished my 30th year in public education in Florida, I do not believe that the drug problem among young people, is as prevalent now in the schools as it was in the early '?0s. That's my own opinion. I believe it would be based and could be verified by the instances that we see in school. But nevertheless, it's still a problem. It still exists. Youngsters when you, law enforcement and others tend to get a handle on a particular substance, it seems they find something else, aluminum paint, you name it, airplane glue. So, the latest in these are angel trumpet plants and while that's been around for a long time, apparently, something that perhaps our young people in this community are Just beginning to be aware of. As parents, you should be aware of that. They would have to have, in order to make this drink that apparently they do, they probably have to have access to your kitchen, to a stove and utensils. So, it's not OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 5 6 '7 9 10 11 12 13 15 16 17 18 19 2O 21 22 23 something that could very easily be done without the knowledge of somebody that was going on. I'd be glad to entertain any questions that you might have about that particular instance or anything else in general as it relates to substance abuse in Collier County Public Schools, at least, in Immokalee. Thank you. He. SMITH: Briefly, we also wanted to introduce Lynn Maxwell with the Seminole Gaming Palace. He is new to this community as well an he hopes to, when they open the new gaming palace on South First Street, to provide at least 250 Jobs to this community. Because of the time constraints, if you have any questions of him, afterwards, I'm sure he'll make himself available. This is Mr. Lynn Maxwell. MR. MAXWELL: Do I get to say anything at all? MS. SMITH: Say, "Hi". MR. MAXWELL~ I think she's trying to tell me something. I want to thank you very much, commissioners, I appreciate it and appreciate your time. I sat back there and listened to all the people who are trying to take your tax dollars from you all we're trying to do is put in 250 to 300 Jobs and I think that's kind OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 s 6 7 9 lO 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 8'7 of a refreshing to the community. I must tell you that I used to teach school and years ago, I never saw a building as nice as this one. You folks have Just a modern school that is to be envied by every community and speaks out for you and your community. We're located out on the south end of town on the indian reservation. This is going to be a facility which you can be very proud of and it will be an asset to the community, that I can assure you. If there are any questions, I will be An the back, I appreciate your time. Thank you, very much. MS. SMITH= Lastly, Mr. Archibald wanted me to announce, I would assume by this list, this is the priority? So, Lake Trafford is number one priority on road resurfacing set for 1994 budgeting by the transportation department, Lake Trafford will receive an estimated $45,000.00 for resurfacing~ North 9th Street, which is 29th to Jefferson Avenue, wtll receive an estimated $18,000~ Stockade Road, an estimated $11,000 and Dade Street, New Market to Dixie, and estimated 2,000, and I believe that's all in the Immokalee area. Is there any questions anyone has for the OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 ,1 2 3 4 $ 6 7 8 9 :1o 11 12 ~3 14 16 17 '19 20 21 22 23 commissioners at this time? UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Not a questLon but Just a statement and it's directed to the co~issioners and George Archibald. I heard $2,000.00 improvement for New Market Road and Dixie. I know four years ago, there was a letter sent up asking for a study, engineer study being done on New Market Road In reference to the location of R and R Produce and a high hazard area that has to do with the influx of people bringing fruit into the area to be sold and a high potential of auto accidents and possible deaths. As to this date, I haven't heard any kind of reply from any study or any commitment made to look at other avenue to route that traffic into that particular area. I would ask, if you would, consider that in this study. UNKNOWN SPEAKER: First of all, I've been resident for ten years. What is distressing is to read in the Christmas vacation times that Naples is considering making an area around Immokalee the future landfill for the coastal garbage and I hate to end a meeting, which was really upbeat, I congratulate a lot of the departments, the growth progress is in the room, there's also, you all have to know up there, there's a real hard OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY~ NAPLES, FL 33962 2 11 15 16 17 18 19 2O · : 23 89 undercurrent in the community that says it makes no sense ~or y'all to spend money and gasoline to tluck the coastal garbage over to somewhere around I~okalee and ! know that you're looking hard for where it has to go and I wish you God speed, but there are a lot of us that are saying, "Not in our back yards". sense. MR. FRED THOMAS: It makes no economio I want to take the opportunity to thank all of you for coming down but to reiterate something that was said at an earlier meeting that was had between the commissioners and the Immokalee Foundation and that is, the significant difference in the growth or no growth attitudes of the Collier County, Coastal Collier County as opposed to the Immokalee area. There was discussion of setting up separate standards so we can encourage that kind of growth. More important, I want to say is, in order for us to recapture some of the money that flowed very rapidly out of Collier county that's earned in Collier County, we have to attract a solid middle a class into Immokalee. In order to do that, we have to invest in Immokalee. The money's going to come back to the county if we can Just get that money to circulate a couple times OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 1'1 12 1,4 15 16 17 19 2o 21 22 23 9o here and that means we're going to have to provide incentives to keep major retailers from going to Lehigh Acres as opposed to coming to I~okalee. They're going to still get our dollars, do you understand, but we want that money to come through us. You got to think in terms of investment in Immokalee. Thank you. MS. SMITH: Commissioner Constantine. CHAIRMAN CONSTANTINE: I Just want to thank you folks. On behalf of the commission, I want to thank the Advanced Research and Social Studies and, of course, the chamber of commerce for having us tonight. I think communication like this benefits us a11, not only the commission and the county, but more importantly the individual communities and we've made a point to try to get to every co~unity and I think we need to continue to do this, perhaps even more than Just once a year. So, thank all of you for having us. ' UNKNOWN SPEAKER~ I also want to thank you all for coming over and in our community. Mr. Thomas came in and thanked you all but you never answered the question about the dump. We moved away from the dump. So, speaking about money coming, we want money coming in and not OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, CO?,T.IER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 11 13 14 17 18 19 2o 21 22 91 garbage. CHAIRMAN CONSTANTINE= The problem, the reason we're I'll attempt to answer. looking at relocating right now is because the community of Golden Gate has grown around the dump so it doesn't make much sense, and you're absolutely right, to move it from one residential area to another residential area and I think what we're trying to achieve is find a place where it's not going to be in anybody's back yard. MS. SMITH= Anything else? UNKNOWN SPEAKER= I'd like to address the board about the school crossing at Lake Trafford Road and 29. It's a state maintained road and the speed limit going through there is 45 miles an hour, okay. The state has told the sheriff's office that they had to pull their cones out so we've got 45 miles an hour speed limit and the sheriff has a school crossing guard to help the kids across the road but we still got traffic coming in there at 45 miles an hour stopping for a light. UNKNOWN SPEAKER~ Maybe I can help you out there. That's mandated by state statute. I know you don't like to hear that. I addressed it four years ago. What it is, is because it's a designated crossing and because OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 2 7 8 11 16 92 it's a controlled intersection with a light, the speed limit is 45 miles an hour and if you got kids crossing there the lights on read, it's stopped and that's what it was designated to. I talked to Bartow, a couple, three, four years ago, and George can support this, because it is a state highway they won't allow cones on it because they're considered dangerous with the speed limit on top of one of the things that you may look at, and I asked the state to do it when I was here with the district lieutenant, there was flashing signs that were put at 15th and I believe it was Roberts Avenue, flashing for designated school area crossing, it was never used as one and I asked them to relocate it to tho north of Lake Trafford and someone told me that it would be and it never happened. But, under state guidelines that are set, the cones and the speed limit and the study and the engineering that was done there, they can't reduce the speeds but it is something that we could use if we could get George to work with the state up in Barrow to get flashing lights there as a warning that we do have school crossings. One of the other areas would be out on Lake OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 lO 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 93 Trafford at Carson Road in that particular area with flashing lights that I tried to address a couple years ago and I didn't have a good answer on it either. Those two particular areas are the main areas of traffic and I really can't tell you what the study of rerouting for the traffic, you'll have to speak to some of the people that travel those areas, I'm in Naples now. Those particular two areas, if you could help us on it, we would really appreciate it. UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I know that biking has become a big issue in the county. I read a couple of articles and my family, we like to bike a lot. I was wondering of the resurfacing of the road of Lake Trafford and if bike trails will also be refurbished and Just for you to know that there are more of us out there that are going to want to bike and want to make that better for us and safer and more enjoyable. There's a lot of kids that enjoy it too as well as in Naples. UNKNOWN SPEAKERr I would like to ask you, because I live in Naples, in Naples, the hispanic co~munity is almost worried about that because the sheriff department sometimes overcharge our community. They told me, because Z look hispanic, they give me OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1:]. 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 94 three to five tickets. So, X would like in some way work and be more conscientious. We don't make a lot of money. We don't make good salary and I know people in Naples that working work in hotel, I work in hotel, that's 5.50 an hour. When I get a ticket, they go for 500, 600, you know, we have no reason to pay plenty ticket. All we need is more education, that's true but no one give it. That's why the community make me stay and that's why the com-unity doesn't have all they have in the car or stuff like that. So, please try to be more conscientious with us because in our country we are scared of the police, now we come to the United States where police is smiling at us, they don't try to kill us but that's all I want to say. UNKNOWN SPEAKER: On behalf of CYCI, we concerned about community improvement and parents on patrol, a program adopted by parks and recreation in Immokalse, we would like to extend and invitation to our meeting that we have February 17th at the community center at 7~00 p.m. These are the youth and parents that are concerned about their community and they all got together and we OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 11 12 '14 15 ~6 17 18 '19 2O 23 95 need your plans on things we need to help our community. :!:f y'all can attend, please come, thank you. MS. SMITH: If there's nothing else, I'd like to personally extend a thank you to each of the commissioners. Mr. Dotrill, all the groups that came and did their presentations and on behalf of the chamber. We have little goody bags for each one of you. There's plenty there, I hope you take them home. There's home grown products there on behalf of the Tip Top Packing, Tomato Man, Inc, Chapman Produce and Ayala Farms. Again I thank you. I want to thank everyone for coming out this evening. If there's any questions you want to approach the commissioners about personally, I'm sure they will stay a few more minutes. (Proceedings concluded at 9220 p.m.) OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES, FL 33962 96 STATE OF F~RIDA ) COUNTY OF COLLIER ) I, Jac~elyn D. M~iller, Deputy OffXctaX Co~t Reporter, do hereby certify that the foregoing proceedings were taken before me at caption ~ereto on Page I hereof~ mat me foregoing computer assisted transcription, consXsting of pages numbered 2 ~rough 95, inclusive, is a t~e record of my Stenograph notes taken at said proceedings. Dated utyl fA lCour emo er OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS, COLLIER COUNTY, NAPLES~ FL 33962