BCC Minutes 10/07/1993 J (w/Lee BCC)0070~ 7o
JOINT HEETING
LEE COUF~Y/COLLIER COUNTY
OCTOBER 7, 1993
9:30 AH
BONITA SPRINGS LIONS' CENTER
10370 PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE
A~enda Item
Overvie~ by the Governmental Committee of ch· Bonita
Springs Chanber of Consaerce
Requested By
Commissioner Judah
2. Issues of Innediate Concern
A. Bi-County Transportation Study Results
· Coordination and consistency at common HPO boundary
B, Bonita Beach Road Videning
· Ti~ing
· Funding Consaiments
· BeautificaCion
C. Livingston/T~p~rial Connection
· Corridor Limits
· Facility Size (nt~ber of lanes)
· T~ing, Funding
D. Stor~vaCer Hanage~enC and Flood Control
· Cooperative planning effort to address drainage in
the vicinity of Carrell Road and Imokalee Road
E. Disaster Preparedness
· Improved coordination between counCies, including
hurricane shelters in ~he vicinity of ~he county line
Bonita Springs Chamber
3, Other Issues
A. Vanderbilt Drive Videning
· Ti~ing, Funding
B. lOth University
· Joint lobbying for funding
· Potential programs to benefit the area
Future Neeting Items
A. Future north/south corridor east of 1-75 at County Line
B. Coordination of U.S. 41 six laning aC County Line
C. FDOT 1-75 Corridor $~udy/addicional interchange(s)
Bonita Springs Chamber
Bonita Springs Chamber
Possible Opportunities for Regional Solid Vaste
Processing and Disposal
6. Eminent Domain
7. Beach Pa~king/Fees/Design of the Bonita Beach Park
Interlocal. Agreement vith Collier County at
Bonita Beach Park
Collier County
Envir. Serv. Div.
Commissioner Judah
Collier County
Pub. Serv. Ach.
Comissioner Judah
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OCTOBER 07, 1993
A Joint Workshop of the Lee and Collier Countv Boards of County
lion·rs was.held th~s date at the Bonita Springs Lions~ Center, wi~h the
Commissioners present=
i~.~' LEE COUNTY COLLIER COUNTY
~: John Manning, Chairman ~i~oth¥ J~ Constantine, Vice-Chairman
~. 1~a¥ Judah, Vice-Chairman ~onn Norris
'~' John Albion Michael Volpe
COMMISSIONERS MANN AND ST. CERNY FROM LEE COUNTY AND COMMISSIONERS MATTHEWS AND
SAUNDERS FROM COLLIER COUNTY WERE ABSENT FOR THE ENTIRE MEETING.
Chairman Manning called the meeting to order at 9=38 a.m. He
welcomed the Collier County Commissioners and introduced Collier County
Administrator W. Nell DorrX11 and Lee County Administrator Donald D. S~ilwell.
Commissioner Judah thanked the Collier County Commissioners for
att~nding and introduced Mr. Paul Pass, the Outgoing Chairman 9f the Bonita
Springs Governmental Affairs Committee, who opened the amscusslon.
1. OVERVIEW BY THE GOVERNMENTAL COMMITTEE
OF THE BONITA SPRINGS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
· ' . .Mr. Pass.pointed_out the ~ed foF thi~.typ~ of ~egt~nq to discus~
~eqlonal issues ~n~.~ugges~ed tha~ tn~ nex~ ~eg~l~g_~e scne~uAed for.~h~r~aay,
~a~ 5, ~994, in ~onI~a.spFl~q~.' ~r..~ass ~e=axlea. tne many cnanqes that nave
~aKg~ place singe, th@ ~as= 3oint meeting of these two Boards. T~e following
gentlemen were introauced b~ Mr. Pass=
Mr. Dennis Gilkey, President, Bonita Springs Chamber of Commerce
F. Joh~ Spear _
are Chief u~n ~o~rley .
Mr. Fred Par~on, ~enera~ Manager, Bonita Springs Utilities
large aerial mag.~f %he 9rea, erected.by ~he Bgn~ta ~prings Cha~ber. gf
omm~Fg~, was_u~eg, au~ng_=ne_pF~sen=at~on =o_poAn= out ~p~lfic l~ca~xon~.
· ~xlK@y ~o=e~.=n~ ~g~n. o= ~l~e a_Bi-gountX TraDspo~a=lon_~uuy nas ~eeD.
scusse~ wl~hogt a~opt~oD Dy e~ner county. ~e pointed_out dl££erencee an
2010 Plans a~opted Dy each County. Mr. Gilkey briefly discussed Agenda Items
2, ~ and 4.
2. -ISSUES OF IMMEDIATE CONCERN
A. BiiCou~.~y ~Fanspo.rtatioD ~tudy Rgsults
i cooraAna=lo~ ana.~ns%etency at common MPO boundary
B. ~o~t~ ~each ~oad wlaen~ng
T~ml g
Fund~na Commitments
Beautification
C. Liying~on/~p@Fial Connection
.. corridor
~gc~llty_Si~@ (n~er of lanes)
Tlmlng~ ~nainq
D. Stormwa~er Manaa~ment and Flood Control
Co~perativ_e p~ann~ng ef~o.rt t9 a~dress drainage in the vicinity of
carrel1Koaa aha ~mmo~a~ee ~oaa
E. Di~aster.~repar~ne~ . .
~mprovea coora~na=lon De=ween Coun~iee~ in~luding Hurricane
Shelters in the vicinity of the county Line
OTHER ISSUES
A. Van~eFbilt_Dr~ye Widening
Timing; ~Ll~gxng
B. 10th University
J_o.~nt_~o.bbyi~g for .fun.ding
~,ot~ntlax programs ~o oenef~ the area
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A. Futu~9 NgFth/South Corridgr 9ast of 1-75 ak Cg~nty Line
B. Cooralna=lon o~.U.S=.4~ Six La~lng. at goun~y blue.
C. FDOT 1-75 Corrxaor s=uay/additionax xn=ercnange(s~
'sted byMr='J°h~' ~pea~, C~-Chgirman, ~hamber Governmental Affairs Committee,
as~x ¥ ~lre c~x~f u~n ~ourAe¥, revxewed ~ge~da ~te~s 2~ 3 and 4. .He
9pxned ~h~t StgFm ~a=er Management, F~ood ~on~¥oA and.D~as=eF. Pr~pare~ne~ are
r~.e_~os= 9rama=~c_Assues.o~ =nls agenaa~ ~e.~xscussea =~e we=Aanas, the_clew
o=.~ne ya=e~.aDa =ne_neea_zoF. ma~ag~men=_o=_~ne, are~ ea~= of ~r?~ Mr._~pear,
~o~ln~.~e 9ls=a~c~ =Fom ~O~l=a sp~xDg~ =o_~ne ~w? .gFrxcane sgex=ers (~nree
~aKs~M£emen¥~ry Sg~o~A aDg_~aFro~_co£lxer ~lgh ~c99oAl, ~ugges=~d that ~ee..
uou~=y cqns%aeF, x~ zeasxoAe 1D =ne ~.xpa~sxon ~= ~n~ ~oDlt~.Sprxngs ~egFea=lon
Ce~=~r~ aesxg~xng it as a H~rrxcane ~nel=~r~ xnoAu~e~ xn nxs pres~n=a=lon was
~ Drle£ overvle~ o~ 9he n~as of_the new unxversity and the expansion of the
~outh~es~ F~oriaa An=e.rna=Aongl Airport. He encouraged that meetings of ~his
type De nela on a regular ~asls.
_. Mr. Pa~s conclud~ the presentation.by thanking the Staffs for their
~oope~a=xo~. Uslng_a g~apnxc,. Mr= Spear notea all the PUD's and DRI's approved
=rom ~ort myers sour~ nnrough ~apxes.
.. Reqar~ing golligr Cgu~ty~s.Eco~omi? Elemgntz Commissioner Volpe.
.qg_~syxon~d t~e=x~p~=~o_fr_n~ xngusg~xgl.a~ve~opm~Dg, algog_Old US 41. Chaxrman
~ann~ng ugg~s~ea_=na~ A~eO uouD~y Aamx~x~ra=or S=XAWeAA ~orward to Collier
county A.dmx~xs=ra~or uq. rril~,.Le9 go~n~y.~ Draft Element~ he also described
DCA's reluctance =o reauce Angus=tiaA Aana acreage.
T ........ ~F:_Scg~_~_~ilb~rt~on,.Deputy D~r~c~or, Lee Cogngy Department of
r~nsporu~xon, responulng =o uommlssloner Juaan, gave a sca=us report on:
US 41 Six Laning
Segments around Island Park and the Alice area will be first on line
~_u~_tI_~e_~~ E~s~ T~rry Street T project fg~ ranking
~=u~ ~erry_~uF~= ~o ~orAscre¥ -_l~wer prA~rx=y
uorKscrew =o AAXCO area - prelect ~or ran~lng
Imperial/Livingston Connection
n~ied~s.a ~os~bl~_p~o~ct fgr.~he_add$~$on~ $o~5 Local Optign
~ ~x - ~u xs ~n ~e_~uA~ ~xnancxaAA~ ~easxDAe ~Aan ~rom the County
~ln~ to Terry Street, it is in the Needs Plan from Terry Street to
corAscrew
. .. Commi~siqDer ~9~R~ ac.kgowl~dg~ t~t. Col~ier_Coug%y is ~aviDg.. .
permit~xng_an~ ruoaxn~ axz~xcu~=x~s xn ~n~ ~xvxngsnon ¢orrxaor. _Mr.
~9~ed~=? ~n~ux.ry_~ro~ co.mmx~sxgneF.voApe, regar~ng this corridor. Chairman
~aDnxng.~=a=ea_yna= .bee county xs AooKxng xn=o sOUthern connectors into the
An=erna=lonal Alrpor=.
S Mr. Chip. Mgrri~m (Lee CouDty) 9n~ Mr. Mik~ S19ytgn (goll~er County),
out,west Florida. wa=er ~gnagemen~.uxs=rl~, respRnae~ ce.Inquiry =rom
Commxssloner ~gaan regaralng f~ooalog_proolem~.. Mr~ ~errA~m' repor%.ed on_the
Stormwater Mas=er Plan. of t~e A~p~rl&l River wa=eysneg, wn~cn was aoDe within
the l~mits, of Lee County. ~ s=a=~d t~gt the ~grlc~=~r~ lnterests_ln_thSs.
~r@a ngve oeen.very coopera~xve. MF. ~lay=o~ aescrlDea now flow po=en=xaA is
Dexng xncreasea an~ the work on various canaAs.
Mr. im vender, Dir ct r, Planning and C nstruction i ion,
maKlng.th~ R~creacA9~ uen=~F a ~u~rx~an~ ~hel~er, ~=$=~d that his.su s= on
verv Drell~lnary, wSth no. aa=a at_the, prese~t.~xm9. An_gnswgr ~hou%d b9 .
aval~%leforuflxs t~me~ an,~u~9~p~9_~eems;M.ur, cons=ruc=xon oz =ne Kecrea=lon center is pAannea
i .
_ Chairma~ Manning dg~cri~ed the A11.M~zgrd.MSBV. ~r. Jghn ~il~on, Lee
oun~y ~merqe0cy ~nagemen~ u%Fgg=or~ F~spgnae9 =o_%nq~.xry £ro~ c9~mxssxooer
orrxs rega~dxnq toe ~ompa=Ab~lx=~o£ ~09 =wo.coun~xes. ~om~__uDxca=xon systems._
e~pondinq =o CO_mmlssxoner reADe, ~r. ~lson aesqFlbed the Mu=ual Aid A~reemen=
e=ween ail the ~outhwest FlorXda coun=xes regaraxng Emergency Management. Mr.
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son descFibgd fgr_gomgissio~er Volpe the EMS ~el~qopt~r. arFang~men~.gnd
~aaresd to cnec~ ~u= =~e type ox agreement~ ~gu~=y 4a~.Anls=r~=~r Dorr~l .
,.~f~ch. er 9.xpounaga.gn ngw emergencies aye.nanalea aha =ne neea zor con=lnuea
worm on ~ne pos=-axsas=er recovery peraoa.
Mr. Georqe R..Arc~iba~d, Direcgor~ CollieF County TFansgor~atign .
Sery. ices, responded to.inqua..ry
Roaa and Vanaerbllt Drove. ne ~=a=ea =nat FDOT_has =unaea xn =next ~lve Year
Work. Plan_two ~eg~.ents_gf ~S 4~=.(1)_th~ ex=~n~ign.o~ the six laning (rom north
~f Pipe R~dge Kgad.to =9~ ~mmg~l~ ~9aa, ~cqegu&e9 a~_~_DOT !995 %Sme=FAme~ (~)
=rom I.mmoAalee.~oa
sega. eh9 of Bonl%a ~9c~ Ko,d, gom~_assl~D~_quugn_~nqq_ared if Cgl$~r county is
Feagy.=9.prgc~eq ~A=9 .i~.e cogn=y ~or ~¥~/~4 ragq=-o= wgy ac~uls~=aon. ~r.
AFqnloa~a ~=a=ea =na=.~nere_ls 9nly.gpe_con~ern~a 99~cel on ~he collier County
saae aha ~ney are wormang closely wl=n ~ee county coT.
5. POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR REGIONAL SOLID WASTE PROCESSING AND DISPOSAL
Mr. Bill Lorenz. Collier County En¥ironmental Services Administrator,
opened this discussion. He stated that Collier Countyts Landfill will reach
~hpacity by the e~ of ~he y@ar 2000.. He s~ggested t~a~ th_e C~un~ies Join
£orcgs 9~ a r~.cy~lang ~uc~=aon_c~m~a~n~ _An Fesp~nse.=o.co~mass~oner .....
Cons=~n=a~e~ cna~.rman manning state9 =na=.~ne.~ee ~o~n=y.a~c~nera=oF Wll~ De a=
~apgcity.~ezgre.=ge year 2900~_.g~gxrman ~a~oang e~ao~rg~ea on 9be ~gng =e.rm
~gs=er ~lan.=na= a~gluaes_AaDa=llllng,.asn.al~posa~, o~==e.ry COllection a~a .
aa~pgsal_ana, re_cyclxnq. ]chairman manning lnyA=~d.~ee county Staff ~o work with
~oAlaer county s~a~f.~o 9ey~lgp a~_gp~roggh =n~= Doth go~n=aes can o~nefSt_
~Fom. It. vas poln=ea 9u=_=na~ mu~=a-~a~A4y 9Da con~omlDlUmS ~r~ comlng.xn=9
=ne recygll~gproqra~ a~ ~ee_cou~=y a= =nls =~me. AF~ ~arry.Jonnson~ ux~ec=or.
Lee Cqvn=y_sg~d W~s=e_u~pa_r~men=. ~espgna~4_¥o ~es=lons r~sed by mr..co,rill
~ggaraang COll%eF county's Kegu~s=. =oF ~galaza~9=%ons r~gargang prequglifyang
zarms on a varae=¥ o=.oa~posal~ecnnologl~s~ unaar~.an. Man~ang.~ggges=ed that a
copy of the aDuttXng lanaowners' agreement De sent =o Ar. uorrLAA.
6. EMINENT DOMAIN
· . . Commi~sioDeF ~u~gh e.xpla~ne4 the ~ces~ fe~s pa$~ ~he~_aqquiring
~aghg-gF-way._ ~e.s=a~a ~nat =ne~egx~n~l (19pnlDg uovDgal ara~ea_a. _
~eso%u=~on ~n=9.rma~g .~ne "powers =na=.oe".gz.=ne. an~.qua=aes of =ne ~xnen=
po~aan.~a~_a~ ~ne.~=a~ o~.F19rida~ .~e aA~uoed ~9 ~ne ~ropgse4 legi~l~t~on
Delnq ara=tea DY=ne ~Aoraaa Assocaa=aon o~ Court=xes. commxssaoner duaan
reau6sted t~at_Lg. 9 And collier County Comm~sioneFs 9tt@n~ ~he vgFigus
oo:%mitt~ xn ~aAAanas~ee_=o. xmpr~ss_up9~ =ne State ~gxsAa=ure.~na=
~espgns~ole r~=grm neeas ~o.og. maa~ to.tn9 curr~n~ .E~.lnent Domain Law..
gommxssloner volpe sugges=ea =nat c~mmx~sxoner duaaD's.recommendation De
9~mperea;.~ha~ t~.~re ls~a.~ch ~rogo~r ~ss~. Cg~misslone~.Alb~oo pointed 9ut
=no9 FlorAaa %s =ne.mos~.l~o~ra% state_An.the no=ach r~gAraxnq ~mxnent uomaan.
Chaarman Aannxna no=ed =nat ne as the chairman of the suocomm~ttee of the
Florida Association. of Counties on Grow~.h Management Issues that has worked on
this issue. He stated that it has now oeen moved to the Finance and Tax
~ubgo.mm~gtee. He noted, ghat FAC is watching the Private Property Rights
AegasAa=aon very care=ulAy.
.. ... Follo~ing.a ~hort break, ~he.gba~.rman cal~d the ~e~9~ng ~ack. to
~rae¥ w%=n all. co.m~.lSSloner~ present w%=9 =n~ exgep~aon.of.colAaer county
commassloners matthews and ~aunaers aha ~ee county commxssaoners St..Cerny and
Mann.
7. BEACH PARKING/FEES/DESIGN OF THE BONITA BEACH PARK
. _ ' Mr. Thomas W. Olliff, Colliqr go~nty Publig Services Administrator,
~avised~that ~hei~.F~gent~y passed_Buu~e= ~s predicated 9n 9.n9 ~egch_parking
=ge.s~s~m. _~r~.wa~laa~ ~am~.on~.~ee county Deputy co~n=y_A~manas=rA~or,
s=a=ea =n~t ~on~9 ~eacn.~ar~ ~IAI open 4a~ua.ry l& 1994,_~1th 87 parKang J
~pac~..tees w~$$ ~e co~%e~=~a D~ a.mgFk ~as=er tcu~ren=ly u~ed_ht B~.wman s
~eacn}= =nere.wa~l De_a.=%cK~= aha vas~=ors cgn PgY ~ro~ one =o_~our nouF~.
This ~ill be iuplem~n=ea a~ ~anu~ry. A~cess o~e as ~o pe.open~d~ ~Vparml~g
will be removed to carl Jonnson mark. ~oDlta ueach ~arm is scneauled to close
~t ~vsk._ Re~pon~in~ to C~mm~on~ Ngrrl~, MF. ~ammond 9dvise~.ghgt 9 yearly
=n9 a~gun=_of ~35.90. gom~ssag~er Jgaag_aayase9 =nat_be9 cgun=y wall_prpvaae
a Trolley ~ervace zrom ~prangs wlaza =o =ne ueacn, up =o carl'Jonnson marK,
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a connector to For~_.My~rs Begch, ~n.respons9 to. Co_mmi~s~ongr_Volpe, Mr.
,n. a~reed to have Mr. ~o~er ueslarAals, ~ee county ASSiSgAD= ¢gun=y
i trAtor, meet wi~h_Cqll~er Couhty DqT_ S~aff ~9 aiscu~s_~n%s PAge. _
.s ioner Albion pein=es out the need =or incentives aha axsincen=ives =or
.zsns ~s~ng th9 T~9~l~y ~ystem..Mr..Hammo~d ~gat~d t~at_the only begch
access pgin=s ~ha= W}AA_De ~ark_Mas~er~a are_~gnl=a ~eacn,.AgC~SS T~n~ uYnn
Hall Park and ~owman s ~e~cn. uomm~ssioner vo£~e expresses integer= ~n.~h9 way
.L~.e County. vs~ TDC funas, Lee County Attorney James G. Yaeger aavisea =nat
r_~ere are £xmi~s.
8. INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH COLLIER COUNTY AT BONITA BEACH PARK
_ Commissioner. Volpe qugstigned, th9 opport_unigy $gr.agrgemgnt on_t~i~
subject. Mr. William aammond,.~e9 ¢ou~:y Deputy
that this hasn't been discusses since Memruary and.~oere_are, some
to Sit down and discuss. M~ Thqmas.W~ Ollif~, Co%$xer coqn~y PubAig ~e.ryxqes
Administrator, usinq a grapglc_oz a 9olnt deslgn,.a~c~s~a ~ne problem.=ngp.
9rose.gver thg. ~o11~ cgun~ ~asement. ~He_opi~ea.:na= ~ngre aKe o~por~u~x=xes
~9 Feaxsg~s9 ~ls s.um]ec=~ An re~ponse.~o ~ommissio~er.vo~pe, ~r. ~ammg~a.
agvlsed ~na~_~n9 w~=er A~g.~gwer issue nas been reso~vea; =ney are provlaea
~nrough ~onx=a springs U=lAX=y.
9. OTHER ITEMS
Commissiongr VolRe r@ques~e~ dialoque wi~h Lge gounty ~egarding . .
Juvenile crime. Chairm~n ~anDAng_s=a=9~ t~a.tL99 co~n=y.%Dves=ga apprgxxma:exy
$750,909.09 of CDBG fuDas_in.~ne quveDAle ue~gn~ion.~ggxi%~y.' comm½ssxoner..
Ma~n ng~peo secur9 State ~unglng zgF =ne.c~pl~al. ano.=ne zlrs= year:~ opera:loD
ano maln:ena~ce; ~ee. county ~s.=o =ne. po~:.oz c99oslng a_programma~%c, approacn
9nd ts%king.:9 a n~u~u3er_o~ ye~9ors. ~.aov%~ed_~nat L~:.e coun=y_wgu%o ~e nappy
co sena an lnrgrmgcxonaA oFxez~Dg o~ c~%s si=ugh%on= ae sugggs=ea_oe~lgoegs
fro~ both. Com~lsslons ge~.=ogg:ngr =9 ~scuss.=ols zrgm. a.poAlcy standpoint.
Chairman manning, respo991ng =o cgmmlsslone~ ¥oApe, s=9=e~ ~nat CltAzen_.
Committees. Staff, the ~neriff and Chief.Ju~oe Thomas Keese of the Twentieth.
Judicial CiNcui9, Os well 9s 9ther ~ggncles tha9 %nte~ag~ in th~ Juvenile crime
9rgnas 9~e 1Dvgived. Comm%S~loner yolpe_~ugges=eu upoa=lng each other on
ln:erac=lon metween now an~ r~e next mss=lng.
th - . CollieF County Admi~st~at@r. Dorri. l~.SnquSred if the .Boar~, throggh
9. To~rls~ Developmgnt gouncl~,.~ 9olng any~_91~g in Kespgnse =9 ~ng_nega=lve
~umllcSty_£ro9 rece~=_qr~m9 relate~ issues, gn~l_rman ~gnnln~ no=ed =nat the
=co~omlo ~e¥91op~eng. ulvl~lgD na~ Deg~ sepaFa=~.£rom =ne TDC..The TDC has~ .
Dositioneu l=se£z. =nrou~n =n9 aover=lsemeD=s mglng.us@~, '~to_9leF~ the res: cz
the Countr~ and the World that we are considere~ a £amll¥ ~es=lna=lon; yes
there is g~Sme; however,_wg, gre taking spme.v~ry agg~e~sl~e.~teps."_ Mr.
~gr~ill s~a=e~ that ~De uol~gr.~Dg ~ay 9e ~D:eres=e~_ln z9%low~ng _~ee[s lead.
chairman Rannlng £ur~ner no=e~ =nat ~ee county nas a ~ost ulsas:er ~un~.
~ach_Commi~s%o~gr e.xpyessed.~pprec%ation t9 th9 Lions~and .t~e Bonita
Beach Chammer zor scneauAlng =nxs meeting aha proposxng ~ne heX: mee=xng on May
5, 1994.
The Chairman adjourned the meeting at 11:40 a.m.
'ATTEST:
CHARLIE GREEN, CLERK
Deputy Clerk
Chairman, Lee County Commission
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