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BCC Minutes 09/18/2008 B (Budget) September 18,2008 TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS Naples, Florida, September 18, 2008 LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County Commissioners, in and for the County of Collier, and also acting as the Board of Zoning Appeals and as the governing board( s) of such special district as has been created according to law and having conducted business herein, met on this date at 5:05 p.m., in SPECIAL SESSION in Building "F" of the Government Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the following members present: CHAIRMAN: Tom Henning Donna Fiala Jim Coletta Fred Coyle Frank Halas ALSO PRESENT: Jim Mudd, County Manager Sue Filson, BCC Executive Manager Jeffrey A. Klatzkow, County Attorney John Y onkosky, Budget Director Page 1 COLLIER COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AGENDA Thursday, September 18,2008 5:05 p.m. NOTICE: ALL PERSONS WISHING TO SPEAK ON ANY AGENDA ITEM MUST REGISTER PRIOR TO SPEAKING. ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL A DECISION OF THIS BOARD WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS PERT AINTNG THERETO, AND THEREFORE MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBA TIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED. ALL REGISTERED PUBLIC SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO THREE (3) MINUTES UNLESS PERMISSION FOR ADDITIONAL TIME IS GRANTED BY THE CHAIRMAN. 1. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE 2. ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARING - Collier County FY 2008-09 Budget. A. Discussion of FY 2008-09 Millage Rates and Increases over tbe Rolled Back Rates. B. Discussion of Further Amendments to the Tentative Budget. C. Public Comments and Questions. D. Resolution to Amend tbe Tentative Budgets. E. Public Reading of the Taxing Authority Levying Millage, the Name of the Taxing Authority, the Rolled-Back Rate, the Percentage Increase, and the Millage Rate to be Levied. F. Adoption of Resolution Setting Millage Rates. Note: A separate motion is required for the Dependent District millage rates and a separate motion IS required for the remaining millage rates. G. Resolution to Adopt the Final Budget by Fund. Note: A separate motion is required for the Dependent District budgets and a separate motion is required for the remaining budgets. 3. ADJOURN September 18, 2008 MR. MUDD: Ladies and gentlemen, if you'd please take your seats. Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, you have a hot mike. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Good evening. Welcome to the Board of Commissioners' adoption of a budget of 2008/2009, or are we calling it 2009? MR. YONKOSKY: Either way works, sir. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Would you all rise for the Pledge of Allegiance, please. (The Pledge of Allegiance was recited in unison.) CHAIRMAN HENNING: County Manager? Item #2A DISCUSSION OF FY2008-09 MILLAGE RATES AND INCREASES OVER THE ROLLED BACK RATES - DISCUSSED MR. MUDD: Mr. Chairman, on the visualizer I've laid out the agenda for this evening, and we're on paragraph 2. And I'm going to shortly turn this over to Mr. Y onkosky because he's the key to this particular issue, and we'll start with the discussion of the FY2008/2009 millage rates and increases over the rollback rate. And unlike last time where Mr. Y onkosky skipped over the rollback rates and the different values and stuff, tonight he has no choice but to read those out. So if you just bear with him and I'll make sure that we supply him with water so that he can get through it. That's kind of long. He has to go through it because of a statutory requirement. Mr. Y onkosky? MR. YONKOSKY: Thank you, Mudd. Good afternoon, Chairman, Commissioners. The -- I really -- I want to set the stage by welcoming everyone here to the second and Page 2 September 18,2008 final advertised public hearing for the Collier County fiscal year 2009 budget which begins on October 1, 2008 and ends on September 30, 2009. There are copies of the agenda package and speaker sign-up slips on a table in the hall. You must register if you wish to address the Board of County Commissioners regarding the county budget. Ms. Filson, Sue Filson over there -- if you would hold your hand up, Sue -- she will take your slips and call your name when the appropriate time comes. There are some required statutory remarks that will start off the process this afternoon, and then there's some changes that have been made in the budget that the Board of County Commissioners has to address, and then the public will have an opportunity to speak to the board, item 2C on the agenda at that time. Item 2A on your agenda, Commissioners, is a discussion of the fiscal year 2008/'09 or with the 2009 budget. This is a required -- a requirement. It's millage rates and increases over the rolled back rates. Now, state law requires that the very first substantive issue that you discuss is a percentage increase in millage over the rollback rate needed to fund the budget and, number two, the reason ad valorem tax revenues are being increased. As you know, neither of those criteria apply to your budget for FY2009. So all we need to do is have a general discussion on the rollback rate concept. Rollback rate, the concept behind it, is to provide -- is a mechanism that a government can have the exact same ad valorem revenue in the following budget year as it has in the current budget year. I do have a slide that I would like to show you that's a comparison of FY2009 millage rates that -- yes, sir. This is as of today. We called all of the various taxing entities and got what their rates were, and in this slide it tells you -- it gives you a comparison. And if you look at the very first one, the City of Naples, their 2008 Page 3 September 18, 2008 millage rate was 1.0997 mills. The rolled back rate for FY2009 is 1.1315 mills. And as of today, their proposed millage rate is 1.1315, which is a 2.89 percent increase over their FY2008. The City of Marco Island has a 15.51 percent increase over 2008 millage rates and a 4.15 percent increase over their rolled back rate. Collier County's general fund has a 0 percent increase over the last year's millage rate, and the proposed millage rate that you have tentatively adopted, the 3.1469 mills, is a 7.03 percent increase -- decrease. MR. MUDD: Reduction. MR. YONKOSKY: Reduction. It's a decrease over the rolled back rate. And if there's no questions on that, we can move on to discussion of the item number 2B, which is discussion of further amendments to the tentative budget. As you know -- CHAIRMAN HENNING: Questions? Board questions? The board received a communication -- I guess this was in a recent publication of today -- that the unincorporated rate is going up. MR. YONKOSKY: No, sir. That is not correct. The unincorporated, fund 111 -- CHAIRMAN HENNING: Says, if you -- let me read it so we can get this correct. Collier property owners will pay a primary tax rate of 3.146 per 1,000 property assessed value while those who live in the unincorporated area of Collier County will pay an additional 69 cents per 1,000 for the properties. And the general public is of the understanding that we're increasing the unincorporated area general fund. MR. YONKOSKY: Yes, sir. Commissioners, if you would look on page 2A 1 of your book, and the third line down is the unincorporated area general fund, fund 111. The prior year's millage rate was 0.6912 mills. The rolled back rate, 0.7494 mills. Your Page 4 September 18,2008 proposed rate for this fund for FY-'09 is 0.6912. That's the board's instructions and direction to have millage neutral, and that is exactly what has been adopted so far, and if things stay on track, that's what you will adopt this afternoon. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Well, I don't think the statement is incorrect. It's just the way it's worded. It looks like when you say additional, it looks like you're increasing. Weare -- the unincorporated does pay an additional 69 cents per 1,000 but it's not an increase, just for clarification. MR. YONKOSKY: That is correct -- that is correct, sir. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Anything else? (N 0 response.) CHAIRMAN HENNING: Thank you. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Is that in the newspaper? CHAIRMAN HENNING: Yes. It's not a misstatement, it's just -- there's a better way to phrase it so that -- COMMISSIONER HALAS: That's the newspaper's fault, not ours. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Well, I just wanted to make a clarification. COMMISSIONER FIALA: That's good. CHAIRMAN HENNING: I don't think it's a misstatement. It's just not clarifying it. It looks like you're having an increase when you say additional. But it's always been there in the unincorporated fund. MR. YONKOSKY: Yes, sir. There is -- the countywide millage rate that applies to everyone countywide, and then the unincorporated area has a millage rate, and both of those millage rates the board has kept millage neutral. So it has always been there, but someone in the unincorporated area could say or make the statement that they're paying the 69 cents more, but then the people that live inside the incorporated are paying the city's millage rate -- CHAIRMAN HENNING: Right. Page 5 September 18, 2008 MR. YONKOSKY: -- in addition, so -- CHAIRMAN HENNING: Right. MR. MUDD: And unlike years prior where we always talked the rollback rate, because in those years you had increased assessments on properties, we have something that's very different this year. It's a decrease in property values. So when they talk rollback rate, when you do that, the rollback rate would have a higher millage rate than the one that you had last year in this particular case. And the board decided to go millage neutral and not to -- and not to go to rollback rate, which would be an increase. And Mr. Y onkosky laid out those millage increases for the -- both the City of Naples and the City of Marco Island which went to the rollback rate, and the City of Marco went to the rollback rate, which is a higher millage rate, plus 4.15 percent. And in your particular case -- and I believe this slide is a very good one that John did. Just for the viewing audience, what you basically did when you said you were going to go -- and you as a board were going to go millage neutral, your 2008 ad valorem revenue was $340 million, you went to -- and when you went millage neutral, you went to 326, or you could go straight up general fund money, which was 260 million in 2008, and with your millage neutral position you reduced it by $11,378,000 down to 249. And when you go to your 111 last year, the 111 account brought in $37 million, and this year with millage neutral it will bring in $35.4 million, which is a million-six less, and that's where we -- John basically showed you that 4.37 in the general fund or 4.34 percent in the municipal services taxing district, the unincorporated general fund reductions. And so that's based on board's guidance, so it pretty much lays it out. We didn't do -- we didn't do rollback. You told us to cut taxes, and we did that. And the board basically made sure that amendment one and its -- and its results were -- turned out to be a budget -- or a Page 6 September 18, 2008 property tax reduction for the taxpayers. CHAIRMAN HENNING: A meaningful, somewhat meaningful. MR. MUDD: Yes, sir. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Or a meaningful in our -- what we have done. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Or nonexistent is probably more right. CHAIRMAN HENNING: For some. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yes, for most. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Coyle? COMMISSIONER COYLE: No, I don't have any questions. I'm okay. Thank you. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. All right. Item #2B DISCUSSION OF FURTHER AMENDMENTS TO THE TENTATIVE BUDGET - DISCUSSED MR. YONKOSKY: All right. Commissioners, the next item is item 2B. It's a discussion of further amendments to the tentative budget. And the -- that would be on page 2B 1 of your agenda, and the first item that is in there is a general fund. There's a $75,000 decrease, and that reflects actions that the board took on September 7 where it provided for $50,000 to come out of the general fund reserves to fund expenses connected with Hurricane Ike. On the September 9th board meeting, the board provided for an -- a budget amendment of $25,000 from general fund reserves to fund the clerk's audit. The MSTD unincorporated area general fund had a change of $225,000. That -- it shows a zero because it only impacts the fiscal '09 budget, and that $225,000 is to fund the Bonita Media settlement that you made at the last board meeting. Page 7 September 18,2008 Road construction, gas tax capital fund 313, shows $2,040,000 of an increase, and the reason for that is that the board has a contract with the state infrastructure bank, and that's for the Immokalee and 1-75. You entered into a contract with them. We were under the understanding that they were going to reduce the gas taxes that they paid us. They just informed us this past week that they would rather not reduce the gas taxes but have us write them a check. And the first payment on that agreement is due on October 1 st. So we've increased gas taxes and increased the remittance to them. That's what that 2,040,000 is for. The next four items all deal -- it affects four funds, but this is the -- on September 9th you approved the state revolving loan funds or loan agreements for $3.2 million. It has a ripple effect through these funds. The county water and sewer district, fund 408, is -- has to cough up a little bit extra money, which is $323,200 to transfer to the water and sewer utility debt service fund, and then the debt service fund itself actually receives that money, and it has -- so there's 3,737,600; 3.2 of it is loan proceeds that will be transferred to a capital project fund, and the reserves increased by the 323,200 that's transferred over from fund 408 and principal and interest payments increased by $214,400. The water impact fees -- reserves are being reduced. They have to transfer to debt service fund the $214,000. It's -- all four funds are involved in the process but basically it revolves around one board action where you accepted a state revolving loan fund. And that loan, by the way, is 2 to 3 percent. That's pretty dog-gone good money. It's the -- just about the best loan money that you could get, so that's very good. Those totals are $8,902,600. That -- those are either actions that the board has taken since the last budget meeting, except for the three mill-- $2,040,000 which is a state infrastructure bank loan. The next few pages are all items that deal with a roll forward of Page 8 September 18, 2008 capital. And I need to explain that to you somewhat. The prior fiscal years the board previously approved but unspent grants and capital project appropriations rolled forward automatically into the next year's budget. Then in October the staff would come to you with a -- an executive summary and a budget amendment that formally appropriated that money. Last year it was 528 million that the board (sic) came to you on October 23rd at your meeting, and -- so due to a change that's taken place recently with the clerk's finance department, they want now all of those actions to be taken before they will actually post the budget amendments. We do not want you to be out there, your staff, on 10/1 not to have any type of capital funding because those projects will not have any appropriations, nor would the grants. So what we're doing here is asking the board to approve that budget amendment that you would receive in October to approve it by action tonight. That does several things. By doing it tonight, it's going to avoid staff time and preparation of executive summaries, it's going to avoid costs in staff time in the preparation, it's going to avoid advertising costs. And so the board, by taking this action today instead of in October to appropriate the capital projects -- and this money is already set up in each project. It's not available to be used for any type of spending because it's already board projects that have been approved. In many cases purchase orders have been issued, and payments will be due early next month. So if you take this action now, you will, in effect, be saving the cost of the advertisements and seeing those executive summaries appear on your agenda next month. So -- and I'm not going to read one of these. I'm just explaining to you that this year there are $364 million of roll forward in capital Page 9 September 18, 2008 projects. Last year, as I explained a few minutes ago, was 500 and some million. There's a reduction in your capital program. But the recommendation is for the board to allow this action to be taken in this manner, and it will, in essence, save money and time for you. MR. MUDD: The fear was, we get to 1 October, and your next board meeting wouldn't be till the 14th, and then we couldn't pay any bills from the capital projects that are actually ongoing right now. We didn't want that to happen and then all of a sudden have contractors say we're not doing prompt payments and things like that, so that's why we did what we did. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Coyle? COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yeah. How about identifying for me where this money will show up in the FY -'09 tentative budget. MR. YONKOSKY: All right, sir. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Just generally. There's no point in going down each one of them. Just give me some idea how you're accounting for that in this budget. MR. YONKOSKY: For example, in grants alone, there's 26,389,000. There's 151 grants. One of them will appear in the Supervisor of Elections -- COMMISSIONER COYLE: Where is grants? Show me a line item number for grants. MR. YONKOSKY: If you would go to page 2B7. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Okay. MR. YONKOSKY: And that is the Supervisor of Elections grant fund. You see that there's $100,300 in carryforward in operating expenses, and that grant will -- COMMISSIONER COYLE: And then there's a lot of pages behind that representing all the other funds that are -- MR. YONKOSKY: And every -- COMMISSIONER COYLE: But there is -- they are not rolled up into the general fund in any way? Page 10 September 18, 2008 MR. YONKOSKY: No, sir, they are not. COMMISSIONER COYLE: They're completely separate from the -- MR. YONKOSKY: None of these are in the general fund. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Okay. All right. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Any other questions? (N 0 response.) CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. Item #2C PUBLIC COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS - PRESENTED AND DISCUSSED MR. YONKOSKY: The next item is 2C, which would be public comments, and -- so Ms. Filson? MS. FILSON: Mr. Chairman, I have two speakers. Gina Downs. She'll be followed by Bill Lyon. MS. DOWNS: Good evening, Commissioners. As you know, my big proj ect is fighting against Alligator Alley. I've been to five public meetings in three days. I was at regional planning today, as was Commissioner Coletta, and there were six or seven counties represented there, and I'm happy to report that none of them are in favor of Alligator Alley either. A lot of politicians are talking the talk but not exactly walking the walk. I'm -- and I will tie this into funding in just a minute. I'm happy to say Senator Saunders is leading the charge against the alley, Representative Matt Hudson. We have U.S. Representative Wasserman Schultz against it, and on the east coast, Senator Aronberg and Senator Rich are against it. Representative Sands. I can go on and on. Commissioners, cities, MPOs from five or six counties are now Page 11 September 18, 2008 signing on against this denouncing the plan to sell our infrastructure and the beginning of what becomes public -- privatization of many different forms of public infrastructure. Now, I'm here today to follow the budget to make sure that there's not budgeting going on with a little back door open hoping to receive some funds from the sale of this alley. I want to make sure that there's no division of the government, of the county government, that's keeping the door open or covertly supporting or encouraging privatization with the hopes that we will get some money into this county. I know that the taxpayers are vocally and overwhelmingly opposed to this, and I'm sure you're very aware of that from your emails. The funding you're using is really my funding; it's everybody's funding. It's taxpayers' dollars. So I think it's fair that the taxpayers' dollars should be used where the taxpayers would like to see them used. Having set that up, I'm appalled to get a registration event detailing an arm of your government who receives 400,000 a year in funding from you and is now asking for another $891,000, and they're supporting and hosting a conference to bring in everyone who's in favor. They found one person here and three others from around the country. They're using my money, taxpayers' money to do something that you have said -- I assume you're walking the walk as well as talking the talk. You have said you are opposed to this plan and yet you have a division who is using my money through you to go against what the public overwhelmingly is against. And I hope you will deeply consider before you support this type of chicanery. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Fiala, Commissioner Coyle. COMMISSIONER FIALA: I'd like to hear who it is and what they're doing. Don't just tell us there is a division. I want to know Page 12 September 18, 2008 who it is. MS. DOWNS: I thought that you would also have a letter of this, that's why I did not mention it. It is the Economic Development Commission (sic) pairing up with ULI to host an informative program on October the 3rd. The guest speakers, Robert "never met an asset I wouldn't privatize" Poole, who I have a stack of notebooks this high detailing his stance. It's just going a 100 degrees away from what you support, what the taxpayers are supporting, what your MPO is supporting, what every elected official in this county is supporting and yet we have this little group out here that's going, oh, boy. Give me the money. What can we do with it. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Does that answer your question? COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. Commissioner Coyle. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Gina, they're not a division of Collier County Government, okay. MS. DOWNS: Okay. COMMISSIONER COYLE: It is true that we allocate funds to them, but we allocate funds for a very, very specific purpose. If they are using any of our funds for this purpose, I would very much object to it and I would ask that they stop using our funds for that purpose. I doubt seriously if they are because they get funding from lots of other sources. MS. DOWNS: So you don't feel this reflects upon you to have them supporting -- COMMISSIONER COYLE: I don't think it reflects upon us personally, but I would advise them that I personally don't like it and they better not be using any of our funds for that purpose. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Coletta? COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Yeah. Now, Gina, I love what you've been doing and I loved your presentation today, but in this case I'm a little bit disturbed about something coming up like this, and Ie Page 13 September 18,2008 don't know if it would quite fit protocol, but there's been a claim that was made at this point in time that the EDC is doing something that's inappropriate. Now, I've heard from you, and this is the first time I've heard this particular thing. With the chair's permission, I'd love to hear from Tammie Nemecek so we can go ahead and have a total understanding of where we are with this and where it's going. CHAIRMAN HENNING: That would be fine but, you know, basically what was said has nothing do with our budget and it has to do with some opinions. COMMISSIONER COLETTA: But the thing is -- CHAIRMAN HENNING: That's fine. COMMISSIONER COLETTA: -- the door's been opened. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Yeah, I agree, Commissioner. COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Thank you. CHAIRMAN HENNING: And it does need to get cleared up. Ms. Nemecek? MS. NEMECEK: Tammie Nemecek, Economic Development Council of Collier County. As you know, between us and the Urban Land Institute, both of our organizations remain very neutral in any decision like this. We have not come out in support of the leasing of Alligator Alley. What we felt was necessary was that there needed to be a 360-degree look at this. So you'll see on the agenda we have people that are in favor of it and people that are opposed to it. We have Bob Murray from the East Naples Civic Association speaking, we have David Rivera speaking at it, we also have Nick Casalanguida from the county that's speaking at this. So it's an informative meeting. I don't -- I don't take a position on this and the Urban Land Institute wholeheartedly doesn't take a position on this. It's more of an informational meeting than it is anything else. COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Tammie, could you behoove Page 14 September 18,2008 everyone -- the person that's probably been the most articulate speaker against it has been Gina who came before us today. Could you make room for her on your agenda, too, to have it more balanced? MS. NEMECEK: I will talk to the people that are up there and be able to ask them, you know. I'm -- there's a whole group that's planning this, so I'll talk to the group, and I'll -- COMMISSIONER COLETTA: I appreciate it. MS. NEMECEK: -- and I'll have Gina give me a call. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Halas, Commissioner Coyle? COMMISSIONER HALAS: Yeah. David Rivera, is that Representative David Rivera? MR. MUDD: No. MS. NEMECEK: No. MR. MUDD: No. This David Rivera works for WilsonMiller. MS. NEMECEK: Yep. COMMISSIONER HALAS: Okay. COMMISSIONER COYLE: It's the same guy. It's just a different face. MR. MUDD: No, sir. I've seen him and they're completely different. MS. NEMECEK: But it is in no intention of being for or against. It's -- I mean, I think it's important for the community to get information out, and that's the purpose of the meeting. So I hope that the community comes and participates in that because I -- there have been lots of meetings, you know, with regards to this, so we wanted a balanced discussion. COMMISSIONER HALAS: And I go along with what Commissioner Coletta said that you need to put Gina in re -- on the agenda also, okay. MS. NEMECEK: Thank you. Page 15 September 18, 2008 CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Coyle? COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yeah. I'm interested in what position Nick Casalanguida's going to take. Maybe Norm can enlighten us a bit because I think now is the time to address that issue. I hope there's not a staff member who's going to take a position contrary to the commissioners, although that happens frequently. MR. FEDER: Commissioner, there is not anyone taking a position contrary to this board. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Okay. MR. FEDER: No staffmembers. Nick was asked to attend. I understand they wanted to look at what we have as outstanding issues in the long-range plan and projects. I just sent him an email even before this discussion got too far in telling him that he may not want to be a presenter at this meeting. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Maybe he could switch with Gina. MR. FEDER: Sounds like a good change. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Next speaker, please? MS. FILSON: Next speaker is Bill Lyon. MR. LYON: Good evening, Commissioners. My name is Bill Lyon. I am president of the Island Walk Homeowners Association and I'm here also representing the Village Walk Homeowners Association. We represent approximately 2,700 homes, approximately 5,400 residents. We are both located on Vanderbilt Beach Road along the section of road that is being completed between Airport and 951. What we're here to talk about is that it's our position that the communities adjacent to Vanderbilt Beach Road, not only ourselves but others, are in the same boat as are a number of other communities that have new construction occurring near their locations. We -- we are -- we believe we are being treated unfairly in that we're entitled to a certain appropriate landscaping as the road is being completed, as was done along other county recently constructed Page 16 September 18, 2008 six -lane roads in the past. As we meet today, landscaping continues to be planted along Immokalee Road, the landscaping along Pine Ridge was completed some time ago, and the expansion of Vanderbilt Road from Airport to 951 was to be completed in three phases and completed no later than June, 2007 . We understand that the delays have been the result of poor performance by a contractor and/or subcontractors. The fact is that we have endured the pain of living with the construction delay now of over a year and a half. Believe the construction completion is targeted for the end of this year. Our communities have been forced to put up with this additional period. You know, it stretches to close to four years for the whole period of construction for disruption, inconvenience, dirt, mud, standing water, bumps, potholes, traffic construction, and at least in Village Walk, lake contamination with sand, bottles, and debris, and it has been an eyesore, you know, impacting resale value in a declining market. Vanderbilt Beach Road was scheduled to be a showcase road and was included within the Collier County Landscape Beautification Master Plan. Collier County had published a streetscape master plan and it stated, I quote, there's a considerable amount of native vegetation well-landscaped entrances to residential communities. The design shall be upon the existing character of Vanderbilt Beach Road by using similar landscape materials and naturalistic patterns. We believe that if the construction had been perform as scheduled, landscaping would have been provided. So we're asking as you address budget matters that you somehow consider how the -- this could be completed and how your promises to communities might be fulfilled. Thank you. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Thank you. MS. FILSON: That's your final speaker, Mr. Chairman. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Yeah. The county manager and I did Page 1 7 September 18, 2008 talk about this and he is looking at it. MR. LYON: Thank you. CHAIRMAN HENNING: So nothing we can do about it tonight. MR. LYON: Okay. We wanted to voice our opinion. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Thank you. Questions? A question about EMS. Is it proposed in this budget to cut it two units? MR. MUDD: Yes, sir. The -- on your sheet. The last -- at the last budget hearing, Commissioner Henning, you asked that I pass a copy of this particular data out to the other board members, which I did, and this is basically a compendium of those things that we did at the workshop in June whereby we got our budgets down so that we could cut $13 million. One of the things that was transpiring at that time was a study -- and I believe that Ms. Vasey got up and talked to the board members at the workshop that talked about, the benefit of ALS would cause two EMS units not to be needed as far as the manning is concerned. The total reduction with staffing on two EMS units is some $900,000. You'll notice on this chart that the -- where it says reduce two EMS units, $250,000. What we basically did was -- in the bigger budget picture -- was to -- the vacancies that EMS had, we took out 14 vacancies, and flushed them up, and that's where that around $700,000 is, and this is the operational money for the two EMS units at $250,000. We are not going to -- we already bought the ambulances. We're not going to sell the ambulances off. We'll keep those. If we have an ambulance that is over mileage, it's breaking down more than its in use, that one we would go to scrap with or call it surplus and go out to auction with it, and then put one of the newer units on line. So it's not where we would sell those particular units. But in this budget, sir, there is a reduction of two active EMS units. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. And that will-- that will take Page 18 September 18, 2008 place in October 1 ? MR. MUDD: Yes, sir. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. Commissioner Coletta? COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Yes. Mr. Mudd -- and we've heard discussions today about beautifications. There's been a lot of other issues that have come up, you know, where people are still looking to restore the level of services that they had before the 80 million-some dollars in cuts took place. One of the things I find a little bit disturbing is the fact that we are looking at something that has to deal with emergency services. This is something that not too long ago when it came before this board, the commission more or less wrote the check out for two years to make sure that we wouldn't lose our valued EMS employees and that we'd be able to have them on -- at the point we'd be able to service everyone. Now, I understand what a budget is and I understand what we're up against and I understand how we have to look at these things with a jaded eye as we move forward. Can we put this under consideration for possibly restoring these funds when we get the turnback-- MR. MUDD: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER COLETTA: -- one of the options? MR. MUDD: Yes, sir. And you are going to receive a briefing on the AUIR, too, that's upcoming. I have my briefing with staff tomorrow morning starting at nine o'clock, and you're soon to follow as far as that process. We go to the Planning Commission, the Productivity Committee, then it comes to the Board of County Commissioners. You will have turnback money and you will have turnback money that's above the amount that's budgeted for '08. So you will have what I'll call surplus at this particular juncture on the turnback that you'll have to make a decision on it, and that was part of Mr. Y onkosky's memo that was in the front of this book that says I will Page 19 September 18,2008 come back to you in the meeting of November and I will lay this out and what you have and what you -- and then you can set those priorities, what you want to bring back that's on this list that's been cut out, and you'll have that capability to do so. COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Thank you, Mr. Mudd. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Halas, then Commissioner Fiala. COMMISSIONER HALAS: The problem is, I understand where Commissioner Coletta's coming from, but the people here in this county voted for rolling back the taxes, which we did very diligently. I believe on our last board meeting we had to write off another $8 million from the EMS in regards to funds that we could not collect. So this all pays into what we have available as far as running the county. So I understand where we're at, but I think we also have to be very diligent in regards to the money that we have available to make sure that we address things on a rainy day and in other emergencies or where somebody doesn't pay the bill and then it comes back on the responsibility of the county. So I understand where we're at, but people also have to realize that they demanded the tax cut and we did our very best, and there may not be all the services available that they're used to. You can only stretch the dollar so far. And like the federal government, we don't have a printing press here, so -- CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Fiala? COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes. Yesterday I was fortunate enough to attend the Productivity Committee and I asked about this same issue, and we had quite a nice presentation on it. And, of course, Commissioner Coletta's district with Ave Maria was one and then my district with Isles of Capri is another. So I wanted to know specifically how it affected Isles of Capri. And what was interesting was, Janet Vasey pointed out -- and she took a ride between Isles of Page 20 September 18,2008 Capri and the closest EMS station, and it was eight minutes and yet they have an ALS engine right there on Capri to give advanced life support in case anybody is having a problem. What they noticed was they only have one, possibly, one incident a week. One incident a week and -- for that -- and most of them aren't life threatening at all, a broken arm or something like that, and so ALS can stabilize that person until the ambulance could get there in eight minutes to take care of that person. So I can see why they came to the decision at least for Isles of Capri -- and I'd like to be protective over it, but I can see that, just as Commissioner Halas said, there are some cost-saving measures, and as long as we're not affecting a human being's life and we've got ALS right there to take care of the incident and stabilize them until an ambulance gets there within eight minutes, eight minutes is how much it takes to get to anyplace else, then I can understand the loss of that one on Isles of Capri. COMMISSIONER COLETTA: I don't mean to jump in front of you. Go ahead. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Thank you. The -- what happened to the board's guidance about funding -- fully funding EMS for two years? MR. MUDD: Yes, sir, that happened. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. MR. MUDD: Yes, sir. Those dollars are out there. I'm just -- this was part of the workshop piece that came up and what the board talked about cutting out as far as the two EMS units because of what the Productivity Committee was recommending. Commissioner, we can -- we can bring this back. CHAIRMAN HENNING: I just want to understand. I'm not upset. I just -- you know, we said fund it for two years. I didn't ever think it would be on the budget hearings to, you know, cut it back. But the two -- the two units are on the road now? Page 21 September 18, 2008 MR. MUDD: Yes, sir, yes, sir. CHAIRMAN HENNING: So-- COMMISSIONER FIALA: Oh. CHAIRMAN HENNING: They're present units, so it is a -- COMMISSIONER FIALA: Oh. CHAIRMAN HENNING: -- reduction. Commissioner Coletta. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah, I still have two more questions. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Oh, I'm sorry. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Oh, no. That's all right, that's all right. And you make a good point, that they're on the road right now. We don't want to be eliminating any -- we promised that we would keep those people onboard. When will we be making the decision on how spend the turnback? MR. MUDD: You're going to do that the meeting in November, ma'am. You have one meeting in November because of all the holidays and the way it turned out this year. So you'll have one meeting in November and you'll have two in December this time. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay. And so at that time we can talk about our preferences like not cutting this stuff back as well as not cutting back the CAT bus routes. MR. MUDD: Yes, ma'am. COMMISSIONER FIALA: We address those things? MR. MUDD: Yes, ma'am. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Now, what happens between October 1 st and that meeting? MR. MUDD: Okay. Remember I told you right now they have vacancies, okay, so they're not, they're not -- in this particular case they wouldn't fill those vacancies, so we've got about 45 days or so before that November meeting in that process, but the ambulances are not being sold nor is any of the equipment, okay. It's still here. Page 22 September 18, 2008 COMMISSIONER FIALA: And we're not laying anybody off? MR. MUDD: No, ma'am, absolutely not. We're not laying anybody off. The issue here is, it's a vacancy issue. Yeah, there are -- all the units are on, but they've got some more overtime because of the vacancies. Normally you run with a seven-person crew so if somebody's sick or somebody's training then you've got a full six. You need two per run running three shifts, and that way everybody gets, you know, their time off during the week and that kind of business, but that seventh -- that seventh body gives you a full-up crew, and a lot of them are running with six. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay, good. So we can rescue this? MR. MUDD: Oh, absolutely. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay. MR. MUDD: If that's the board's desire, ma'am. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Well, yeah. I'm just speaking for one person. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Are you complete? COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, sir, I am, finally. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Coyle -- or Coletta, and then Commissioner Coyle. COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Okay. I just wanted to mention that it wouldn't matter if it was my district or not. I take the idea of emergency services to be universal for the whole county and I'd weigh in no matter where it is. I would like very much to be able to have a meeting with emergency services and County Manager's Office and budget office to be able to discuss this further so I -- and facts came up today that kind of changed some of the directions that I was looking at originally as far as the fire department supplying services, but I'd like to get a better feeling for it because I know Immokalee's a little bit different as far as the fire department goes, but I also would like to know more about the Isles of Capris and what's happening there. Page 23 September 18,2008 MR. MUDD: Yes, sir. I believe you -- in your in-box someplace you received a report from the Productivity Committee. COMMISSIONER COLETTA: I have it right here. MR. MUDD: I haven't even finished reading it yet. COMMISSIONER COLETTA: But I'd still like to be able to talk to our staff about it. MR. MUDD: Absolutely, sir. We can set up a meeting. COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Okay. I do appreciate that, Mr. Mudd. MR. MUDD: Absolutely. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Commissioner Coyle? COMMISSIONER COYLE: What is the effect of the reduction in fuel reserve when you say it is reduced to $5.25 per gallon; what does that really mean? MR. MUDD: Yes, sir. We had the fuel reserve -- our estimate was before next year out, fuel would be over $5, and right now you have in your budget fuel is budgeted -- John, is it 4.50? MR. YONKOSKY: I believe it is 4.50. I'm not sure. MR. MUDD: It's 4.50 a gallon. What the board chose to do was to reduce the reserve down in half, not only in 111, because you have -- you have vehicles in the 111 account, but you also decided to reduce it in the general fund account, and both were reduced by $400,000. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yeah, but my point is that -- what is the effect of reducing it to $5.25 per gallon? Don't you have fuel reserve in gallons, number of gallons of reserve you want to keep, or keep it in a dollar amount? MR. MUDD: No, sir. We keep it -- we keep it based on the price of a gallon. We don't have the storage to hold it. We've got about two weeks worth that we keep in our -- in our -- in County Barn and that kind of business, and we were refueling this week. What happened in Ike, Hurricane Ike, is the price of MO- -- the Page 24 September 18,2008 MOGAS. The price of unleaded gas -- it's an old term, but one that's familiar, sir -- of unleaded gas went from like 3.79, what we were paying the day prior, and it went up $1.63 a gallon on top of that because of Ike, so we chose not to fill our tanks because of the price hoping that in the week or so it would -- it would start coming down. It has, but it hasn't come down as far as we would like it to be. And I told our staff, I said, worst comes to worse, we'll go out there -- and we have cards that we could use at the local filling stations. We'd use those cards. We don't like doing it because we can normally get a cheaper price for gas than what they're selling out on retail out at the stations, but we use those cards until the wholesale price would come down enough so it would be cheaper than what we could get at a pump, and then we'd just put an eyeball on all those stations and figure out who has the cheapest price. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Well, where I'm going with all this, if we saved $400,000 by reducing the reserve to $5.25 per gallon, how much more could we save and, perhaps, allocate to EMS units if we reduced the fuel reserve to $4.50 per gallon? MR. MUDD: Well, that's the price in the budget, and that's basically another $400,000 in each category, sir. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Are you're telling us -- telling me that we could save another $400,000 if we reduced the price to $4.50? MR. MUDD: Yes, sir. And I've got to do some checking to make sure I've got -- it was $4.50. But, Commissioner, that would-- that would bring you to -- if it -- if it goes over that particular price, we would have to come back to you during the year and get a budget amendment and bring it out of reserve. COMMISSIONER COYLE: But by then we will have the turnbacks and we will have more flexibility probably; is that not true? MR. MUDD: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER COYLE: So what I'm suggesting is, if you're looking for a quick way to cover the cost of the two EMS units Page 25 September 18, 2008 without taking money away from anything else, if you just adjusted the fuel reserve to the price which it currently is or the price you expect it to be within the next few months -- because it has come down from $5.25 per gallon. If you reduce it down to whatever it is now, $4.50 per gallon, you've save more than enough to cover the two EMS units already then; is that what I'm -- MR. MUDD: The question I have to examine -- from a straight dollar and cents thing that you just laid on, yes, that is, indeed, the case. I have to go check and make sure the fuel reserve is reoccurring dollars versus one-time dollars. That's the only difference because when you're budgeting crews, you're going reoccurring. COMMISSIONER COYLE: But if you intend to make up any potential shortfall in the fuel reserve costs from the turnback money, it won't make any difference, I don't believe. MR. MUDD: Yes, sir. And in this particular regard, the board-- if you remember what the board's actions were when we had all the yellow T-shirts in the audience, the board basically took an action, okay, for two years. You took it for '08 and you took it for '09. So my previous comment that I said it would only be one-time money, it doesn't -- you basically only decided on one-time money for two years. So it -- yes, sir, you could -- you could take that $800,000 that you just basically specified and you could bring that forward. Now, we're going to have to do some movements on dollars because $400,000 of that money is in the 111 account, and we don't fund EMS units out of 111. We fund them out of the general fund. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yeah, I understand. Well, that's encouraging because that -- it seems that we then could proceed with fully funding those units without actually increasing the budget at all. MR. MUDD: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Okay, good. Okay, thank you. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Halas? COMMISSIONER HALAS: Yes. When are we going to have Page 26 September 18, 2008 the AUIR report? When will that be given to us? MR. MUDD: Joe, when's -- COMMISSIONER HALAS: I think that will make a big difference in regards to -- because I know we give direction that we were trying to cut out some units, I believe. MR. MUDD: Yes, sir. Joe, can you tell me when the board's going to do the AUIR? Just -- you can tell me from there. MR. SCHMITT: I'm looking for the dates, Jim. MR. DeLONY: The 24th. MR. SCHMITT: The Planning Commission, Jim, is the 22nd, 23rd, 24th. MR. MUDD: What month? MR. SCHMITT: October. MR. MUDD: October. MR. SCHMITT: And the board probably November. MR. MUDD: So you'll see it November, sir, right around the same time -- COMMISSIONER HALAS: That will give me a bigger idea of what's going on. MR. SCHMITT: November 4th for the board. MR. MUDD: So you'll see it -- you'll see it almost two weeks prior to making the decision on the turnback money. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. COMMISSIONER HALAS: Okay, good. CHAIRMAN HENNING: So what you just said, we can't take the funds out of limerock roads and put it into EMS because it's 111 monies versus general fund money? MR. MUDD: General fund -- it's general fund money. We got a little bunch there and I have to go back and take a look at where I can move the dollars from. COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Now, personally I like Page 27 September 18, 2008 Commissioner Coyle's suggestion because that makes a lot more sense. Things we should be concerned with is health, safety, and welfare, and limerock roads come under health, safety, and welfare. CHAIRMAN HENNING: You betcha. So if you disagree with me, go ahead and take it out of lime rock roads. MR. MUDD: Commissioner, all I'm -- my recommendation at this particular juncture is, if we received nothing in the turnback, okay, and it's basically what -- exactly what they told us they were going to have in '08, you still have a mechanism within here to bring the EMS unit on full-up. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. All right. Are you ready to do the reading? MR. YONKOSKY: Well, sir, I'm ready but we have a couple more actions that we have to take first. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. Item #2D RESOLUTION 2008-275: AMENDING THE TENTATIVE BUDGET - ADOPTED W /CHANGES MR. YONKOSKY: Your agenda item 2D is to adopt a resolution to amend the tentative budget. And I would like to make sure that the motion includes those changes we talked about earlier. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. Let me get to those -- those changes was -- MR. YONKOSKY: And those changes were the changes that I read the change in the general fund, the SIP program, and the rolling forward of the capital. CHAIRMAN HENNING: So it would -- MR. MUDD: It's on 2B. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Starting at 2B and it runs over to -- Page 28 September 18, 2008 well, 2B 1 to 2B4 -- MR. MUDD: Six, sir. CHAIRMAN HENNING: 2B66. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Oh, six? MR. YONKOSKY: 2B66. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Entertain a motion to approve the resolution with the amendment of the changes on 2B 1 through 2B6. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Sixty-six, right? MR. MUDD: It's 66. What John's basically saying -- CHAIRMAN HENNING: Sixty-six. MR. MUDD: -- is in every one of those line items, you have a sheet that basically shows you where those dollars are going and how it fits in. CHAIRMAN HENNING: I stand corrected. Is there a motion -- COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Motion-- CHAIRMAN HENNING: -- to that effect? COMMISSIONER COLETTA: -- made. CHAIRMAN HENNING: A motion made by Commissioner Coletta, second by Commissioner Henning. Discussion on the motion? (N 0 response.) CHAIRMAN HENNING: All in favor of the motion, signify by saYIng aye. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye. COMMISSIONER HALAS: Aye. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Aye. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye. COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Aye. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Any opposed? (No response.) CHAIRMAN HENNING: Motion carries unanimously. Page 29 September 18,2008 Item #2E PUBLIC READING OF THE TAXING AUTHORITY LEVYING MILLAGE, THE NAME OF THE TAXING AUTHORITY, THE ROLLED-BACK RATE, THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE, AND THE MILLAGE RATE TO BE LEVIED - READ INTO RECORD MR. YONKOSKY: Commissioners, the next item on your agenda is item 2E. It's a required public reading of the taxing authority levying millage. I must read the name of the tax authority, the rolled back rate, the millage rate to be levied, and the percentage increase or decrease over the rolled back rate. So if you would go to page 2F3 of your agenda. And if you're ready I will begin. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Please. MR. YONKOSKY: I think Mr. Mudd is going to point it out on the -- MR. MUDD: 2F3, that's the fourth tab, third page. MR. YONKOSKY: The name of the taxing authority, the general fund. It's fund 001. The rolled back millage rate is 3.3849. The proposed millage rate of 3.1469. The percentage change is a minus 7.3 percent. The water pollution control fund, fund 114, the rolled back rate, millage rate, is 0.0301. The proposed millage rate is 0.0293. The percentage of change is a negative 2.66 percent. The unincorporated area general fund, fund 111, the rolled back millage is 0.7494. The proposed millage rate is 0.6912. The percentage of change is minus 7.77 percent. The Golden Gate Community Center, fund 130, the rolled back rate is 1. -- 0.1669. The proposed millage rate is 0.3576. The percentage of change is minus 10.56 percent. The Naples Park drainage, fund 139, the rolled back millage rate Page 30 September 18,2008 is 0.0084. The proposed millage rate is 0.0081. The percentage of change is minus 3.57 percent. Pine Ridge Industrial Park, fund 140, the rolled back rate is 0.0479. The proposed millage rate is zero. The percentage of change is minus 100 percent. The Naples Production Park, fund 141, the rolled back millage rate is 0.0256. The proposed millage rate is zero. The percentage of change is minus 100 percent. Vanderbilt Beach -- Vanderbilt Beach MSTU, fund 143, the proposed millage -- the rolled back millage rate is 0.4434. The proposed millage rate is 0.4380. The percentage of change is minus 1.22 percent. The Isles of Capri Fire District is fund 144. The rolled back millage rate is 1.6939. The proposed millage rate is 1.6534. The percentage of change is minus 2.39 percent. Ochopee Fire Control, fund 146, the rolled back millage rate is 3.9600. The proposed millage rate is 3.8513. The percentage of change is minus 2.74. Collier County Fire Control, fund 148, the rolled back millage rate is 1.8401. The proposed millage rate is 1.8301. The percentage of change is minus .54 percent. GoodlandlHorrs Island Fire Control District, fund 149, the rolled back millage rate is 1.0620. The proposed millage rate is 1.0343. The percentage of change is a minus 2.61 percent. Sabal Palm Road MSTU, fund 151, the rolled back rate is 0.6805. The proposed millage rate is 0.6785. The percentage of change is minus 0.29 percent. Golden Gate Parkway Beautification, fund 153, the rolled back millage rate is 0.4380. The proposed millage rate is 0.4096. The reduction is a minus 6.48 percent. Lely Golf Estates Beautification, fund 152, rolled back millage rate is 1.8667. The proposed millage rate is 1.7070. The percentage Page 31 September 18, 2008 of change is minus 8.56 percent. Hawk's Ridge stormwater pumping MSTU, fund 154, the rolled back millage rate is 0.1188. The proposed millage rate is 0.1129. The percentage of change is minus 4.97 percent. Radio Road Beautification, fund 158, the rolled back millage rate is 0.2308. The proposed millage rate is 0.2173, a minus 5.77 percent decrease. Forest Lakes roadway and drainage MSTU, 159, the rolled back millage, 1.3871. The proposed millage rate is 1.0707, a 22.81 percent decrease. Immokalee Beautification MSTU, fund 162, the rolled back millage rate is 0.9698. The proposed millage rate is 0.9238, a decrease of 4.74 percent. Bayshore Avalon beautification, fund 163, the rolled back millage rate is 1.6146. The proposed millage rate is 1.5626, a 3.22 (sic) decrease in percentage rate. Haldeman Creek, fund 164, the proposed rolled back millage rate is 0.1132. The proposed millage rate is 0.500. The increase is 350 -- 341.70 percent increase. Rock Road, fund 165, the rolled back millage rate is 1.7493. The proposed millage rate is 1.6864, a decrease of 3.60 percent. Conservation Collier, fund 172, the rolled back millage rate is 0.1708. The proposed millage rate is 0.1659, a percentage decrease of 2.87 percent. Caribbean Gardens, fund 220, the rolled back millage rate is 0.1549. The proposed millage rate is 0.1500, a 3.16 percentage decrease. Caribbean -- Forest Lakes debt service, fund 259, the rolled back millage rate is 3.0802. The proposed millage rate is 2.9293, a 4.90 percent decrease. Conservation Collier debt service, fund 272, the rolled back millage rate is 0.684. The proposed millage rate is 0.0670, a decrease Page 32 September 18,2008 -- percentage decrease of 2.05 percent. Collier County lighting, fund 760, the rolled back millage rate is 0.1007. The proposed millage rate is 0.0946, a decrease -- percentage decrease of 6.06 percent. The aggregate millage rate, the rolled back aggregate millage, is 4.1821. The proposed aggregate millage rate is 3.8997, a percentage decrease of 6.75 percent. That's the last one. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. Entertain a motion to adopt the final budget by fund. Item #2F RESOLUTION 2008-276: SETTING MILLAGE RATES- ADOPTED: MOTION TO APPROVE THE DEPENDENT DISTRICTS' MILLAGE - APPROVED; MOTION TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE MILLAGE - APPROVED MR. YONKOSKY: And, Commissioners, that adoption to the resolution setting the millage rate, we need two motions, one for the dependent district millage rates, and one -- a separate motion is required for the remaining millage rates. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. So I'll entertain a motion to adopt the resolution for accepting the dependent district budget. COMMISSIONER COYLE: So moved. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Second. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Motion by Commissioner Coyle, second by Commissioner Fiala. Discussion on the motion? (No response.) CHAIRMAN HENNING: Seeing none, all in favor of the motion, signify by saying aye. Page 33 September 18,2008 COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye. COMMISSIONER HALAS: Aye. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Aye. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye. COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Aye. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Any opposed? (N 0 response.) CHAIRMAN HENNING: Motion carries unanimously. Entertain a motion to accept the resolution to adopt the remaining budget. MR. YONKOSKY: The remaining millage rate, sir. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Millage rate. COMMISSIONER COYLE: So moved. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Second. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Motion by Commissioner Coyle, second by Commissioner Fiala. Discussion on the motion? (N 0 response.) CHAIRMAN HENNING: Seeing none, all in favor of the motion, signify by saying aye. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye. COMMISSIONER HALAS: Aye. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Aye. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye. COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Aye. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Any opposed? (N 0 response.) CHAIRMAN HENNING: Motion carries unanimously. Item #2G Page 34 September 18, 2008 RESOLUTION 2008-277: ADOPTING THE FINAL BUDGET BY FUND - ADOPTED; MOTION TO APPROVE THE DEPENDENT DISTRICTS BUDGET - APPROVED 5/0; MOTION TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE FINAL BUDGET - APPROVED MR. YONKOSKY: Commissioners, the next item is to adopt a . resolution -- or to adopt the final budget -- resolution adopting the final budget by fund, and here again we need a separate motion. We need one motion to adopt the dependent district funds, and then a separate motion to adopt the remaining budgets. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. Motion to -- I'll make a motion to approve the dependent districts fund -- budget. MR. MUDD: Budget. MR. YONKOSKY: Budget. COMMISSIONER HALAS: Second. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Second that motion. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Second by Commissioner Halas. All in favor of the motion, signify by saying aye. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye. COMMISSIONER HALAS: Aye. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Aye. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye. COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Aye. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Any opposed? (N 0 response.) CHAIRMAN HENNING: Motion carries unanimously. And then the final motion would be to adopt the balance of the final budget? MR. YONKOSKY: Of the budget, yes, sir. CHAIRMAN HENNING: So Commissioner Halas makes that motion? Page 35 September 18, 2008 COMMISSIONER HALAS: I make that motion, yes. CHAIRMAN HENNING: And seconded by Commissioner Fiala. COMMISSIONER FIALA: (No verbal response.) CHAIRMAN HENNING: All in favor of the motion, signify by saYIng aye. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye. COMMISSIONER HALAS: Aye. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Aye. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye. COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Aye. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Any opposed? (No response.) CHAIRMAN HENNING: Carries unanimously. MR. MUDD: Commissioner, last -- John, I think you got through all the business. MR. YONKOSKY: Yes, sir. MR. MUDD: Last meeting that we had on the hearing, the board wanted to talk about the landscaping plan. Would you like us to bring -- would you like to discuss it now, would you like us to come before the November meeting, would you like us to bring it to you at an October meeting of the Board of County Commissioners for a discussion? How do you want us to do this one? COMMISSIONER COYLE: How about the July meeting next year? CHAIRMAN HENNING: Yeah, Commissioner Coyle wasn't here. Just to make it easier on staff, but I think that it's worthy of discussion. MR. MUDD: Okay. Well, let's do this master plan when we do the AUIR, because Norman's going to talk about his roads and we're going to put -- and then we'll put it in there. It won't be -- it's not Page 36 September 18, 2008 category A or B, but he can talk -- you know, he could layout the program and get the board's desires on how you want to proceed in the future, then you can lay that out, because it's -- basically you're talking about a five-year plan for everything in Collier County when you do the AUIR, and you can get right there at that -- at that landscaping particular issue when that transpires, and that will be in November, I think it's the 4th, Mr. Schmitt said. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. There's no way what we discuss at the budget hearing, that we're going to deal with that this fiscal year, so I think it's very appropriate. Nobody objects? MR. MUDD: You'll see it at your AUIR. CHAIRMAN HENNING: What's -- any other items? MR. MUDD: You've covered all our business today, sir. CHAIRMAN HENNING: County Attorney? MR. KLATZKOW: No, sir. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Entertain a motion to adjourn -- COMMISSIONER HALAS: So moved. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Motion to -- CHAIRMAN HENNING: Motion by Commissioner Coyle, second by Commissioner Halas. Discussion on the motion? All in favor of the motion, signify by saying aye. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye. COMMISSIONER HALAS: Aye. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Aye. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye. COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Aye. CHAIRMAN HENNING: Opposed? (No response.) CHAIRMAN HENNING: Motion carries unanimously. Page 37 September 18, 2008 ***** There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 6:10 p.m. BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS/EX OFFICIO GOVERNING BOARD(S) OF SPECIAL1TRlC S U~DER ITS CONTROL -J TOM HENNING, Chairma A TT13ST0 'J{ c{)' DWIGHTE.BROCK,CLERK ~~~J . -Attest a~ to Cha\rsan , '. '19naturt on 1- These minu~approved by the Board on 10 II~' t ~ 8 , as presented ~ or as corrected TRANSCRIPT PREPARED ON BEHALF OF GREGORY COURT REPORTING SERVICES, INC., BY TERRI LEWIS. Page 38