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Agenda 05/13/2008 Item #10B Agenda lIem NO.1 06 May 13, 2008 Page 1 of 110 Executive Summarv Review the results from the recently completed Vanderbilt Beach Recreational Pier public workshops and obtain direction from the Board of County Commissioners on how to proceed. Objective: Review the recently completed public meeting results and obtain direction from the Board of County Commissioners on how to proceed with the Vanderbilt Beach Recreational Pier. Considerations: On June 26, 2007 the Board of County Commissioners approved a feasibility study to build a Recreational Pier at Vanderbilt Beach and on January 15, 2008 the Board of County Commissioners directed staff to conduct public workshops to determine public input and support on this topic. Staff conducted public workshops at the following times and places: . Pelican Bay Property Owners Association on February 19, 2008 at the Pelican Bay Community center with approximately 200 residents in attendance. . District I on February 21, 2008 at East Naples Community Center with 6 individuals in attendance. . District 3 on February 25,2008 at the Golden Gate Community Center with 13 individuals in attendance. . District 5 on March 12, 2008 at Max Hasse Community Center with 8 individuals in attendance. . District 2 at St. John the Evangelists Catholic Church on March 18, 2008 with approximately 300+ residents in attendance. Community sentiment at all the public meetings expressed clear, overwhelming opposition to the concept of a pier and facilities at Vanderbilt Beach road. Also evident was the lack of significant community support from Collier County residents east of CR 951. Community concerns relative to traffic congestion, parking, security, quality of life impact and reduced property values dominated all discussions. Additionally, residents were concerned about the need for beach access and the location of the proposed facilities. There was however, support for a mixed solution with a potential pier located at Delnor- Wiggins State Park or some other relatively less congested location and a combined public restroom/snack bar facility constructed in the area approximating the current public bathroom facility located just south of Vanderbilt Beach road. Several options exist moving forward. Each of these options has various levels of community support and is summarized as follows: I. Construct the pier and facilities as presented at the end of Vanderbilt Beach road. 2. Retain the pier concept but relocate it to a more suitable location and build the facilities within the Right-of-Way at the end of Vanderbilt Beach road. Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 2 of 110 3. Retain the pier concept but relocate it to a more suitable location and build the facilities in the area approximating the current public bathroom facility located just south of Vanderbilt Beach road. This would involve obtaining permission from WCI (previously Coral Ridge - Collier Properties Inc.) as required by restrictive deed covenants as well as a possible variance from SFWMD for a conservation easement and height restriction. 4. Eliminate the concept of a pier and build the facilities within the Right-of-Way at the end of Vanderbilt Beach Road. 5. Eliminate the concept of a pier and build the facilities in the area approximating the current public bathroom facility located just south of Vanderbilt Beach road. This would involve obtaining permission from WCI (previously Coral Ridge - Collier Properties Inc.) as required by restrictive deed covenants. 6. Refurbish/remodel the existing bathrooms by only executing a cosmetic refurbishment and not addressing any capacity needs. 7. Do nothing The existing public bathrooms at Vanderbilt Beach are inadequate and in need of expansion and replacement. Any significant work on these bathrooms other than a cosmetic refurbishment will require elevated construction to comply with recently revised FEMA flood guidelines. A significant investment must be spent in the near future to expand/replace these bathrooms. Adding the snack bar, outside seating area and storage area to the bathrooms provides the needed facilities and public amenities in the area, Staffs concept of a snack bar and adjacent seating area would be similar to the facilities at Clam Pass, Tigertail Beach or Lowdermilk Park. This snack bar would provide economically priced menu items that would enhance the public's beach experience. No sit down service would be anticipated but rather ordered and picked-up from a service counter/window. This snack bar would replace the already existing concession of cold drinks and snacks provided by Cabana Dan while adding hot foods similar to pizza, hot dogs and hamburgers to the menu. The restrooms, snack bar, and storage area if constructed in the area of the existing public restroom would be a stand-alone elevated structure. Even though Collier County owns this property, restrictive covenants in the deed would require WCI (previously Coral Ridge - Collier Properties Inc.) to approve the concept, location and design. In addition, staff continues to research related potential zoning and land development code issues that may need further actions depending on Board direction to proceed. It is further anticipated that the design of this facility would not exceed the originally proposed 5,400 SF but will include bathrooms, storage, snack bar and adjacent outdoor seating area. Permitting a stand alone facility regardless of the location either in the Vanderbilt Road Right-of-Way or the existing bathroom location would be significantly simpler than a combined pier/facility project and most probably could be accomplished within 12 months. Construction could be accomplished in an additional 12 months making the total project duration 2 years. Estimated development costs are $2.5M to $3.0 M and include design, permitting, and engineering fees of $330,000. Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 3 of 110 Advisory Committee Recommendations: The Parks and Recreation Advisory Board voted 5-1 on 4/16/2007 not to approve this item. Approval was with held largely for the inclusion of a snack bar in the project scope. County Attornev Findinl!s: The County Attorney has reviewed this item for form and legal sufficiency and is working with Coastal Zone Management to review applicable legal documents and provide direction. Fiscal ImDact: The source of these funds will be Category "A" Beach Park Facilities Fund (183), Tourist Development Tax. Current budgeted Beach Park Facility Fund reserves total $1,924,800. It is anticipated that when permitting is complete that all required funding will be in place. A budget amendment is necessary moving dollars from Fund (183) reserves to the appropriate Fund (183) project in order to fund any preliminary design contract. Growth Manal!ement Impact: Depending on the approach and direction provided by the Board of County Commissioners the impact to the Growth Management Plan may vary, However, any approach taken will be consistent with the Conservation and Coastal Management Element Policies supporting Objective 10.3 that addresses developed coastal barriers and shorelines. Staff Recommendations: Based on community input and prudent facilities planning, staff recommends the Board direct the following actions: 1. Continue to work with Delnor- Wiggins State Park at the Regional and State levels to determine the possibility of a recreational pier at that location. 2. Engineer, permit and construct an elevated, stand alone facility including restrooms, snack bar with adjacent seating area and storage area in the current public bathroom location just south of Vanderbilt Beach road. This plan is contingent upon approval from WCI (previously Coral Ridge - Collier Properties Inc.) for relief of certain deed restrictions and compliance with applicable zoning and land development code (LDC) requirements. 3. If unsuccessful in obtaining approval from WCI (previously Coral Ridge - Collier Properties Inc.) or successful resolution of potential zoning and LDC requirements necessary to construct facilities at the existing Vanderbilt Beach bathroom location; staff would then propose constructing these elevated facilities in the Vanderbilt Beach road Right-of-Way as originally proposed. Six months should be reserved to successfully resolve these issues before other options are investigated. 4. Make a finding that any facilities constructed at this location are Beach Park Facilities and authorize TDC 183 Fund monies to be used for this purpose. 5. It is understood this proposal would need to be presented and reviewed with the appropriate regulatory agencies and advisory boards for recommendations prior to being presented to the Board of County Commissioners for consideration. Prepared by: Gary McAlpin, CZM Director Page I of I Agenda Item No. 108 May 13, 2008 Page 4 of 110 COLLIER COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS Item Number: Item Summary: 10B This item to be heard at 11 :00 a.m. Review the results from the recently completed Vanderbilt Beach Recreational Pier public workshops and obtain direction from the Board of County Commissioners on how to proceed. (Gary McAlpin, Coastal Zone Management Director) 5/13/20089:00:00 AM Meeting Date: Approved By Colleen Greene Assistant County Attomer Date County Attorney County Attorney Office 4/1/20084:30 PM Approved By Gary McAlpin Costal Project Manager Date Public Services Coastal Zone Management 4/4/20083:38 PM Approved By Marla Ramsey Public Services Administrator Date Public Services Public Services Admin. 4/9/2008 10:58 AM Approved By OMS Coordinator OMS Coordinator Date County Manager's Office Office of Management & Budget 4/10/20088:22 AM Approved By Mark Isackson Budget Analyst Date County Manager's Office Office of Management & Budget 5/6/200810:23 AM Approved By James V. Mudd County Manager Date Board of County Commissioners County Manager's Office 5/6/2008 3:21 PM fiJe://C:\AgendaTest\Export\1 07 -May%20 13,%202008\1 0.%20COUNTY%20MANAGER %... 5/7/2008 Agenda Item NO.1 06 May 13, 2008 Page 5 of 110 MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John the Evangelist Catholic Church District 2 Naples, Florida, March 18,2008 LET IT BE REMEMBERED that Collier County Staff, having conducted a Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting for District 5, on this date at 6:00 PM at St. John the Evangelist Catholic Church, 625 11 th Avenue N, Naples, Florida, with the following speakers present: Commissioner Frank Halas, District 2 Leo Ochs, Deputy County Manager Gary McAlpin, Coastal Zone Management Director ALSO PRESENT: Marla Ramsey, Public Services Administrator Barry Williams, Parks & Recreation Director Nick Casalanguida, Trans/Planning Director Murdo Smith, Parks &Recreation Regional Manager Sandra Martello, Administrative Assistant Camden Smith, Public Information Coordinator Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 6 of 110 Introductorv Remarks Commissioner Halas welcomed everyone to the meeting and introduced the other Collier County Staff members that were present; spoke briefly about tourism, beach re- nourishment, beach access, beach parking and the need to up-grade beach facilities. Leo Ochs provided background on the feasibility study and how issues identified would be dealt with if this project goes forward; indicated that Collier County was here to fulfill the BCC directives to share with the Collier county community and to forward findings at a future BCC meeting. Staff was to receive input/concerns from the entire community via letter or e-mail and then report back to the BCC their findings. This is the last of a series of five informational meetings held within the community. Presentation Gary McAlpin discussed concept of a recreational pier; presented aerials indicating where facility would be constructed and various designs to be considered with shade screens. Permitting process with FDEP will take 2 to 3 years to permit project. Permitting will be difficult but not impossible. All of the last 6 piers have been permitted by the state. There will be minimal amount of impact to coral reefs but mitigation will be required. The county has allowed $1,250,000 and has the unused mitigation credit from the recently created artificial reef to offset mitigation requirements on this project. The pier construction will take about 2 years to complete. A total of $8.6 million will be spent for pier and facilities; $3,700 for office space/restrooms/snack bar is provide in addition to 1,700 SF of observation deck. The observation deck will be elevated just over the turn-around at the end of Vanderbilt Beach Road. This project could also be done in phases. The concept would be to develop a master plan footprint now, build the facilities as soon as permitting could be obtained and concurrently begin permitting for the pier. Traffic study has been completed and indicates sufficient capacity for increased traffic. This traffic study was conducted in the middle of November 2007. A capacity and shutdown analysis was done on parking garage since it was opened 18 months ago. The data indicates that the garage has only been shutdown four times a month for about 30 minutes each time. Public concerns that crime will go up as a result of an undesirable element visiting the pier have proven to be unfounded. A review of the Naples Pier incident logs over the past three years did not support an increase in crime. The Naples Pier has been a positive 2 Agenda Item NO.1 08 May 13, 2008 Page 7 of 110 structure for the community. The operation and security of the pier will be enforced by the Collier County Park Rangers with support from Collier County Sheriffs Department. This project is funded by TDC tax monies which are allotted for these types of projects. The area will need to be rezoned from RT to Community Park From a larger standpoint, there are 60 miles of coast in Collier County with only five County public restroom facilities and one additionally within the City of Naples. Public Comments and Questions Questions and comments presented from the audience with the appropriate response were as follows: I. What are the benefits of this building? Receiving shifting statements from staff. Understands that the people from the eastern part of the county and tourists want the "pier experience"; opposed to the building of the pier. Halas commented: Not just a fishing pier, it's also a recreational pier - creates an atmosphere of solitude. 2. Made a statement that he sent a letter to the editor of a newspaper that if we need a pier it should be at Delnor Wiggins Park. We build it and the state provides the land. There is more room for parking there and it is buffered north by the park and south by undeveloped land. 3. Asked if there were any piers in other residential areas and what impact it made; also left a list of written questions with admin assistant to be answered by the staff upon receipt. Gary McAlpin listed some attributes and stated that pier experiences were positive. 4. Comment made on why this meeting was not held in a larger place; what criteria is base for pier proposal; thinks tourists attracted to beach rather than pier; fishing off pier as opposed to fishing from beach; point was made that they did not see anyone at the meeting that wanted the pier. Gary McAlpin commented that 20% of the people are pro fishing from the pier; it will also provide much needed facilities for the people. 5. Had environmental concerns; injury to pelicans was an issue; also concerned about sharks being attracted to area; operating costs also a concern. 3 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 8 of 110 Gary McAlpin noted that the pier will have a fish cleaning station and there should be no problems with sharks as there are none at the Naples Pier. Operating costs are revenue neutral. 6. In favor of pier; thought it will prove to be a nice place and will help with much needed public access. 7. Voiced concerns about having to stay 150 ft. from either side of the pier while swimming; is a senior citizen and thinks this is unacceptable. Gary McAlpin commented that he would have to look into this further. It may be a State Ordinance. 8. In favor of the pier; it has good possibilities and will enhance the area; it will be good for everyone. Gary McAlpin thanked her for her comments. 9. Disappointed at only having one Commissioner at meeting. Comments made regarding being able to walk on beach; will create traffic problems. Gary McAlpin stated that Nick Casalanguida will speak to the traffic issues shortly. 10. Addressed Commissioner Halas that the pier was against the wishes of his constituents. Thought that a thorough feasibility study was not done. Commissioner Halas commented that residents east of 41 need beach access and the commissioners look to the needs of the entire community. II. Comment regarding wildlife issues; people watch group involved; has issues with taking hooks out of pelicans at Naples Pier and worries about that happening at this pi er. Gary McAlpin commented that pier was not just about fishing; that it will be enjoyed by all. 12. Security concerns are a major factor; necessary to shut pier down at night; what about night security. Gary McAlpin commented that security is always a concern and that it will be designed into the costs; cameras may be a possibility. 13. What percent of tourists come to Naples to fish? Gary McAlpin commented that any type of tourism brings in tourist tax dollars. 4 Agenda Item NO.1 08 May 13, 2008 Page 9 of 110 14. Went to pier on Sunday and took pictures of child kicking pelican (brought pictures with her); pelican with hook and pelican caught in net. How do you plan to prevent more pelicans from being injured? Gary McAlpin commented that some of these issues needed to be addressed further. 15. Had issues with beach access; parking and towing problems; hiding places for drug dealers. Gary McAlpin stated that there is a parking structure for cars and there will be security provided through the Sheriff s Department and will be paid for with revenue neutral dollars. 16. Stated that he is for the pier and will love to fish from it and kids needs a place to go besides the streets. Gary McAlpin thanked him for his comments. 17. Also for the pier; it will not be like Ft. Myers as there will be no commercial aspects involved; good for people who want to see sunset and cannot walk in the saud. Gary McAlpin thanked her for her comments. 18, Has the answer to beach access question - county should pay everyone's admission to Delnor Wiggins; where will the kids play if they can't be within 150ft of either side of pier; what other uses can we make of money. Gary McAlpin commented on parking garage and options for a shuttle. Commissioner Halas said that he is working with the state park on parking issues on Gulf Shore Drive. 19. What are the benefits of removing 300 feet of swimming area to tourists or residents? Gary McAlpin commented that this needs to be further addressed. 20, Questioned pier being built at the end of lmmokalee Road; is beach public property near Ritz; also questioned public access; single street parking and easement. Gary McAlpin commented on further looking into pier/beach space; Bluebill's sale of property as having a 30 foot easement; 5 Agenda Item No. 106 May 13, 2008 Page 10 of 110 21. Asked about the Ritz and where their beach ends and if we need beach access why bother with a pier and not just facilities? Gary McAlpin commented on the Ritz public property line being a Code Enforcement issue. 22. Resident all for the beach not the pier; concerned about 300 feet being taken away. Commissioner Halas commented that he could not get the state to give back state park; previous commissioners had no vision towards the future; address half million on location to provide access. 23. How many people will use the pier and what will the additional costs be. Gary McAlpin commented that he does not have all the answers. 24. In favor of pier because of handicap - wheelchair accessible. Gary McAlpin thanked him for his comments. 25. What funds are available and can it totally pay for pier and up keep? Gary McAlpin commented that $2.8 million is available and that the county has a [mancial plan. 26. Would like more data to compare lengths of piers (Naples) and wants to know if Clam Pass facilities are the same size. Gary McAlpin commented that the pier will be the same size as the Naples pier (1,000) feet and the snack bar similar to Clam Pass. 27. Comment made that she went to Naples pier and there was no parking there- what about this pier. Gary McAlpin commented on availability of parking garage, 28. Not in favor of taking 300 feet of beach space and street parking will be a problem. Gary McAlpin commented that street parking should not be an issue and will look further into the loss of beach space. 29. The current proposal is for a pier, snack bar, offices, etc. Think this should be voted on separately. 6 Agenda Item NO.1 08 May 13, 2008 Page 11 of 110 Gary McAlpin commented that he is directed on how to proceed by the Commissioners. 30. Concerned that streets will be used for drag racing where homes are; questions about child safety for 40 plus streets. Nick Casalanguida commented that studies show that traffic will not be an issue; there will only be site related incidences regarding speeding or circulation. 31. Comments made on spending money the county doesn't have. Gary McAlpin commented that there is money in the budget for this project. 32. Comment made that there is no beach now because of the Ritz and we will also be losing 300 more feet of beach. Gary McAlpin commented that he will look further into this issue. 33. Statement make that HOA has received 53 calls and 120 or more e-mails to stop pier from being built. Gary McAlpin thanked him for input. 34. Thinks that pier will degrade five-start hotel and that they should just enlarge the restroom area. Gary McAlpin thanked him for input. 35. Statement that she jives near 951 and likes the parking garage - not the pier. Gary McAlpin thanked her for input. 36. Asked for a show of hands on how many do not want the pier. A show of hands was seen, but not counted. 37. Statement made that the pier will take up 26,000 square ft. of beach and swimming space and it will be an atrocity. Gary McAlpin thanked him for comment. 38. Statement that he is happy with parking garage - not with loss of beach space. Gary McAlpin thanked him for his comment. 7 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 12 of 110 39. Thinks pier is a bad idea; would ruin area; should vote on project; wanted to know who money was pushing the project. Gary McAlpin commented that $35,000.00 was spent on project so far. 40. Commented that he does not want pier because it will increase traffic. Gary McAlpin thanked him for comment. 41. Statement made that the pier will set a "down & dirty" social tone in the area. Gary McAlpin commented that this will not be the case. The Naples pier has no such problem either. 42. Pelican Marsh resident couldn't get to beach the other day because of traffic. Gary McAlpin commented that Nick Casalanguida will address traffic issues. 43. Pelican Bay resident thinks the value of property will change if pier built. Gary McAlpin commented that the pier will not cause this to happen. 44. Comment was made that pier will attract sharks because of the fishing; that there was a 4 ft shark caught off Naples pier. Gary McAlpin commented that he does not anticipate any shark attacks because of the pier. 45. Comment made as to why Commissioner Halas wants the pier. Commissioner Halas commented that he is here to get more information from public. 46. Statement made that pier is not solution to increased access problem; opposed to pIer. Gary McAlpin thanked him for comment. 47. Concern regarding the maintenance and security costs. Gary McAlpin commented that the costs were revenue neutral. 48. Concerns that the pier will cause erosion and deplete the money which should be set aside for hunicane renourishment. 8 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 13 of 110 Gary McAlpin commented that the county is prepared for hurricane renourishment. 49. Pelican Marsh resident wants to know where does the demand for pier come from; is it mandated; where will money come from. Gary McAlpin commented that the public would benefit from a pier and the money will come from tourist tax dollars. 50. A show of hands was asked for again; wants issues addressed concerning walking on the beach, traffic problems getting out onto Vanderbilt Road; there is no light. Nick Casalanguida commented that we can't build road for tourist season and that they will do a site impact traffic analysis. 51. Concerned that Commissioner Halas is evading questions on the who is the "driving force" behind building the pier. Commissioner Halas responded that there is no "driving force". The pier is being built to accommodate all residents now and in the future. 52. Wanted it taken back to the commissioners that during the building process, which will take about two years, the parking for workers and the general building of the pier is going to have a very negative impact on the area. Gary McAlpin commented that there will be some issues, as with any building process. 53. En masse, the issue again surfaced about the driving force behind the pier. Commissioner Halas commented that this was a plan to accommodate residents who did not live in the immediate area and for the future population. Commissioner Halas thanked the people for attending and Leo Ochos gave out the e-mail address of the county website and instructions as to how to send their questions and/or comments to the Commissioners. Adjourned 8:00 pm 9 Agenda Item No. 108 May 13, 2008 Page 14 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Ted Raia Address: 7117 Pelican Bav Blvd Zip: 34108 Phone Number: 594-28512 Question (I questions per sheet): Ifwe need a pier then it should be at Delnoir Wiggins Park. We built it and the State provide the land. There is more room for parking and it is buffered north bv the park and south bv undeveloped parcel. Answer: 10 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 15 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18,2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Alicia Kappel Address: 400 Flagship Drive Zip: 34108 Phone Number: 513-0015 Question (I questions per sheet): Do the commissioners and others working on this proiect realize that this Dier and restaurant/bar will change the area of Vanderbilt beach forever? How was Vanderbilt beach targeted, rather than others such as Clam Pass or Conner Park? What are the long term plans for Vanderbilt Beach? Vanderbilt Beach Road? Are there plans to widen the road from Vanderbilt Road to Gulf Shore? Please include the new "turn around" in this explanation. Do vou reallv have long term leases on land for additional parking at this beach? If not are there alreadv identified areas that vou will lease for parking in this area? Where are thev? Do anv of the current commissioners us this beach or have propertv on it? Answer: II Agenda Item No. 106 May 13, 2008 Page 16 of 110 12 Agenda Item NO.1 08 May 13, 2008 Page 17 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18,2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Alicia KaPDel Address: 400 Flagship Drive Zip: 34]08 Phone Number: 513-0015 Question (I questions per sheet): When is the next meeting on the pier with the commissioners? Answer: 13 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 18 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Alicia Kappel Address: 400 Flagship Drive Phone Number: 513-0015 Zip: 34108 Question (1 questions per sheet): Did the same Derson/companv build all 7 piers in the state? How involved were thev in the decision to build the pier. Answer: 14 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 19 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18,2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Alicia Kappel Address: 400 Flagship Dr. Phone Number: 513-0015 Zip: 34108 Question (I questions per sheet): How does the commission think the addition of the pier/restaurant/bar will affect the propertv values of the homes/condos or Vanderbilt Beach, and along Vanderbilt Beach Raod? How have property values in homes/condos around Clearwater and Ft. Mvers been affected? Answer: 15 Agenda Item No. 1GB May 13, 2008 Page 20 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Alicia Kappel Address: 400 Flagship Drive Zip: 34108 Phone Number: 513-0015 Question (1 questions per sheet): Whv did the commissioners decide that Vanderbilt Beach needed a restaurant, bar. bait shop, meeting room in a 3700 square foot building? Whv can't the current restroom facility be expanded and improved? Has the commission worked with Pelican Bav and the Ritz on this issue? If 22 feet is taken out of the beach with the pier, has anvone looked at the ramifications to the current beach usage? Answer: 16 Agenda Item NO.1 06 May 13, 2008 Page 21 of110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Alicia Kappel Address: 400 Flagship Drive Phone Number: 513-0015 Zip: 34108 Question (1 questions per sheet): When studving the ramifications of the pier, has anyone looked at the Clearwater and Ft. Mvers piers and the carnival atmosphere surrounding them? The Clearwater Pier has had to start charging a fee for parts of the pier to offset the continuous cleanup and maintenance required at the pier. Were anv of the current piers vou studied built within 10 miles of another pier used for the same reason? Has anvone thought of using the Tourist Dollars to update the current Naples Pier? Were any of the current piers vou studied built in high densitv residential areas in front of a 5 star hotel? Answer: 17 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 22 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Alicia Kappel Address: 400 FlagshiD Drive Zip: 34108 Phone Number: 513-0015 Question (I questions per sheet): Has the commission taken into account that Vanderbilt Beach is currentlv a swimming beach? The Dier will eliminate swimming at least 150 feet on each side of the Dier. How will this be controlled? Will buovs be Dlaced to warn peoDle of the dangers of swimming to close to the pier? Answer: 18 Agenda Item No. 108 May 13, 2008 Page 23 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 625 11 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18,2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m, Name: Alicia Kappel Address: 400 Flagship Drive Zip: 34108 Phone Number: 513-0015 Question (1 questions per sheet): If another pier is "needed" in the countv. has the commission gone to the state and "sold" the idea to Dull the pier into DelnorlWiggins State Park" Wouldn't a campaign from the citizens of the countv to the group at the state level gO a long wav to get the pier built in the DIW State Park? Answer: 19 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 24 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Alicia Kappel Address: 400 Flagship Drive Zip: 341108 Phone Number: 513-0015 Question (I questions per sheet): What is the overall plan for beach access in the county? If asked. doesn't evervone want more parking? Have the commissioner REALLY looked at other Dlaces for a parking garage? Clam Pass (ves there is room), Conner Park (the bridge currentlv has a waling lane or a tram could shuttle people from the garage across the bridge to either the countv beach or the state beach), or Barefoot Beach (little used and with room for a garage). Conner Dark could also become a parking lot first. parking @:arage second. Answer: 20 Agenda Ilem NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 25 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 625 11 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18,2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Alicia Kannel Address: 400 Flagshin Drive Zip: 34108 Phone Number: 513-0015 Question (I questions per sheet): Will the nier be lighted at night? Will the nier be natrolled 2417? Will the Tourist Tax Dollars nay for this as well as the ongoing maintenance and cleanun of the nier? Answer: 21 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 26 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Bonnie Michaels Address: 592 Beachwalk Zip: 34108 Phone Number: 596-9135 Question (1 questions per sheet): What criteria are vou basing this DTOPosal? Whv not fishing at the beach? Traffic. noise, pollution issues. Answer: 22 Agenda Item No. 108 May 13, 2008 Page 27 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18,2008 District 2 6 to 8 p,m. Name: Betsev O'Connor Address: 613 Beachwalk Circle Zip: 34108 Phone Number: 591-3049 Question (1 questions per sheet): I swim most davs when the water is above 75 degrees. Just learned that swimmers have to stay a large distance from the pier. That is unacceptable for mvself and manv other senior citizens. Answer: 23 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 28 of 110 Address: Name: Vincent Piro Zip: 34108 713 ReefPt. Circle Phone Number: 597-9584 Question (I questions per sheet): Traffic impact? Answer: 24 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 29 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 625 11 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18,2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Sue Levell Address: 816 Gulf Pavilion Zip: 34108 Phone Number: 566-8491 Question (1 questions per sheet): You have not done a thorough economic feasibility to determine real cost of manning the pier? What do people want? Answer: 25 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 30 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Kav Campbell Address: 377 Vanderbilt Beach Road Zip: 34108 Phone Number: 239-33]-3878 Question (] questions per sheet): ]f security at the pier downtown is of no concern. why was it necessary to close the pier (aJ. night and have additional security put in for vandalism? Answer: 26 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 31 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18,2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Harry A'Harl Address: 554 nnd Ayenue N. Zip: 34108 Phone Number: 239-594-3418 Question (1 questions per sheet): If maiority is against this pier why are you still pushing for it? My question is how long is your terms? When is the next election? Answer: 27 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 32 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18,2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Susan Snyder Address: ] 7 Bluebill Aye Zip: 34108 Phone Number: 5]4-3286 Question (] questions per sheet): what are the plans for preyenting bird injuries with a 25' high pier. a net couldn't be used? How do you plan to preyent pelican iniuries? I would like to share some pictures from the Naples Pier taken on Sunday. (spoke and shared pictures did not receiye COpy) Answer: 28 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 33 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Steven Valdivia Address: 260 Southbay Drive Zip: 34108 Phone Number: 505-4595006 Question (1 questions per sheet): Environmental impact: crime: insurance: taxes: rates: rise in crime: transient? Answer: 29 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 34 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18,2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Anthony St. Louis Address: 77] 106th Ave N. Phone Number: 239-59]-3979 Zip: 34108 Question (1 questions per sheet): Pro pier - our kids need some place to gO besides playing in the streets. Answer: 30 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 35 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Audrey St. Louis Address: 77] ] 06th Phone Number: 59]-3979 Zip: 34108 Question (1 questions per sheet): Pro Pier . Wonderful sunset viewing without impairing on private property . Fishing . Community neighborhood - families with children to grow with pier. . Add to aesthetics - Naples Piers in numerous paintings. Answer: 3] Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 36 of 110 Name: Barbara Go1denzie] Address: 8171 Bay Colony Drive # 503 Zip: 34] 08 Phone Number: 5]4-]6] 1 Question (] questions per sheet): What are other possible uses for the money? Answer: 32 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 37 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 625 11 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18,2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: _Maureen Straight Address: 562 1 OOth Avenue Zip: 34108 Phone Number: 593-1]06 Question (1 questions per sheet): How will removing 300 feet of swimming are benefit the public (resident or tourist)? Answer: 33 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 38 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 625 11 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Harry Adell Address: ] 7 Bluebill Zip: 34108 Phone Number: 592-5940 Question (1 questions per sheet): I would not like to have the pier built at the end ofImmokalee (I] IthS.) Too much traffic. unsayorv characters. etc. Am ] 00% against pier. Answer: 34 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 39 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 625 11 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18,2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Bonnie Tucker Address: 1 Bluebill Ave. Zip: 34]08 Phone Number: 239-450-4666 Question (] questions per sheet): In this "recession". why would we think of spending money when we are cutting everything? Seems very irresponsible we don't need another expense. We need to keep our libraries open and other facilities. Answer: 35 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 40 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Pierre W. Bruno Address: ] 896 Seyille Blvd # 1712 Zip: 34109 Phone Number: 239 566- I 282 Question (I questions per sheet): Does my wife and I want a Pier? Real Ouest ion Why does Commissioner Halas continually demand to confuse beach access with building a pier which extends away from the beach? No. no. no. Answer: 36 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 41 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Judy Shields Address: 6315 Wilshire Pines Zip: 34109 Phone Number: 591-2218 Question (1 questions per sheet): I love to fish - I note. ves me and my family. I live 5 minutes away. All my guest when they come in they want to go to the pier. I have to drive all the way downtown. Answer: 37 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 42 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Jon Christensen Address: E 204 637 Beachwalk Center Zip: 34108 Phone Number: Question (1 questions per sheet): I am against this proiect for the following reasons: 1. Traffic: 2. Parking: 3. Reduced beach access: 4. Congestion and crime Answer: 38 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 43 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18,2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Kim Rosenberg Address: 8665 Bay Colony Phone Number: 592-] 980 Zip: 34108 Question (1 questions per sheet): Where do the beach goers move to find beach where they can sun and swim? Today they use the beach between the Ritz and Beachmore Condo. With a pier. that's gone. Answer: 39 Agenda Item No.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 44 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Tim Warren Address: I] 80 Douglas Ave Zip: Phone Number: 239-285-4498 or 239-248-5986 Question (1 questions per sheet): I'm 34 years old. I'm looking at the future of Naples. I think the pier is a great idea! The county needs to make this town more family friendly. and this is GREAT! I have been to Naples pier for years to enjoy the sunsets and fishing. and I haye not seen any problems or complaints. This can only help local business and make the working class like myself enioy the beach. The people of Pelican Bay that I have heard complain tonight are forgetting what it was like when they were young. Keep UP the good work. you have my vote. Answer: 40 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 45 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: 1. Lydon Address: 450 Trade Winds Zip: 34108 Phone Number: Question (1 questions per sheet): Where are yOU going to park all the cars? We do not need the pier - it will destroy the beautiful beach. Answer: 41 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 46 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: John Macko Address: 598 105 Avenue N. Zip: 34 108 Phone Number: 207-2718 Question (1 questions per sheet): I would like to see a restaurant and bar. Answer: 42 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 47 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Julia Perrotta Address: 700 A-108th Ave, N, Zip: 34108 Phone Number: 239-682-3264 Question (l questions per sheet): 1. It causes traffic iams and excess carbon dioxide in the air. 2. Endangers the pelicans: fishing hooks and lines on them. 3, Endangers swimmers, 4, Draws sharks. 5. Depletes endangered fish, 6. Causes overcrowding, 7. A pier restaurant and baths increase pollutants in the most environmentally sensitive are of Collier County. 8, Lets stop construction at the beach line. Answer: 43 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 48 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 625 11 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Jim and Anne Knowlton Address: 692 100th Ave, N. Zip: 34108 Phone Number: 239-566-7304 Question (1 questions per sheet): No pier. No pier. Answer: 44 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 49 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: manuel and Elia M. Lopez Address: 54791" Ave, N. Zip: 34108 Phone Ntunber: 59 I -0543 Question (l questions per sheet): We want the beach as it is - Thanks. Answer: 45 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 50 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18,2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Joe and Carol Sabation Address: 651 1 I Oth Ave. Zip: 34108 Phone Ntunber: 598-1126 Question (1 questions per sheet): In support of pier at this location. We feel Delnor Wiggins would be a better location and the commissioners should put pressure on the State to obtain the land to put all necessary facilities there including a parking garage - Pelican Bay community would not be an issue at this location. Pelican Bay has a private boardwalk - No Public Allowed. North Naples NEEDS this pier and so does the rest of the County. All of our foreign yisitors go to the Naples pier the day they arrive and every day thereafter. The most important reason for building an additional pier in Naples is to have a second pier to gO to in the "Down Time" when Naples ?ier #1 needs its deck reconditioned in the very near future! Answer: 46 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 51 of110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18,2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Vila Dom Address: 8 I 0 Breakaway Drive Zip: 34108 Phone Number: 593-6982 Question (l questions per sheet): Why a pier at that place? We have bedroom windows facing Vanderbilt Beach Rd. and can imagine the noise created by intensified traffic. We use Vanderbilt to access and development and can imagine the traffic iam caused by increased traffic. Place that pier at Wiggins Pass where it does not harm our wonderful Ritz Carlton hotel and stop harassing people in the area including Pelican Bay owners. Answer: 47 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 52 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Tommy Lane Address: 799 96th Ave. N. Zip: 34108 Phone Number: 593-5785 Question (1 questions per sheet): This is not a question but a statement. I moved here iust for the Naples Pier. I would tickle me to death to have a pier right down the street. for I would use it every day!! The only place for me to fish is at the Wiggins Pass. I am for the pier. Answer: 48 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 53 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Carolyn Kacek Address: 9485 Gulfshore Drive #602 Zip: 34108 Phone Number: Question (1 questions per sheet): When Mr, Halas spike at the beginning of the meeting. he focused on tourist. tourists. tourists benefit. People that own condos and homes should be listed too. People don't want a pier placed down in the middle of all this area of homes and condo. Also. how many town the size of Naples have two piers in the town? The money already spent for this could surely be used in a better way. I feel people realize the need for better restrooms for the public not a pier and restaurants. All your studies just cost more and more money. As tourists come to Naples. they are not coming to fish on a pier. Do they bus people to anv other public beaches? Answer: 49 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 54 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Robert Pendergrass Address: 7225 Pelican Bay Blvd. Zip: 34108 Phone Number: 239597-3542 Question (1 questions per sheet): Traffic congestion is already a problem in the Vanderbilt area. Answer: 50 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 55 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18,2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Jeannette Maidie Address: 672 92nd Zip: 34108 Phone Number: 597-6129 Question (1 questions per sheet): What can we do to stop the commissioners from building this pier at Vanderbilt Beach? I am against it! Answer: 51 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 56 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 625 11 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18,2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Carol Wright Address: Zip: Phone Number: 507 -9503 Question (l questions per sheet): Vanderbilt Beach (VBBA + VBPOA) worked so hard on "the overlay" and 1 big item was retaining our "view corridors" - see the sky, beach, green space.... And now our very own commissioners want to take away our one last view corridor by constructing a 50' building at the flag pole over the turn around. Please let us watch the sunset going west on Vanderbilt Beach Rd. - do not take that yiew corridor away from the county, it's priceless! You've had no support from the other districts during your presentations. People are not clamoring for a pier east of 4 I. There is no support. Answer: 52 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 57 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting St. John The Evangelist Catholic Church 62511 Avenue North Tuesday, March 18, 2008 District 2 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Dick Lydon Address: 450 Traden Zip: 34 I 08 Phone Number: 597-2746 Question (1 questions per sheet): Do not bit the hands that feed you! The Ritz. LaPlaya and Vanderbilt Resort collect the tax. do not compete with them! Rather than use the time and talent to permit a pier use the same resources to get approval to use TDC money to dredge Turkey Bay!! Answer: 53 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 58 of 110 MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting E. Naples Community Center District 1 Naples, Florida, February 21,2008 LET IT BE REMEMBERED that Collier County Staff, having conducted a Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting for District I, on this date at 6;00 PM E. Naples Community Center, 3500 Thomasson Drive, Naples, Florida, with the following speakers present: Gary McAlpin, Coastal Zone Management Director ALSO PRESENT: Leo Ochs, Deputy County Manager Barry Williams, Parks & Recreation Director Nick Casalanguida, Trans/Planning Director Murdo Smith, Parks & Recreation Regional Manager Gail Hambright, Tourist Tax Coordinator 1 Agenda Item No.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 59 of 110 No Citizens were present from District 1 Introductorv Remarks Gary McAlpin welcomed everyone to the meeting and introduced the other Collier County Staff members that were present. Presentation Gary McAlpin Discussed concept for recreational pier. Presented aerials indicating where facility would be constructed and various designs to be considered with shade screens. Permitting process with FDEP will take 2 to 3 years to permit project. Permitting will be difficult but no impossible. All of the last 6 piers have been permitted by the state. There will be minimal amount of impact to coral reefs but mitigation will be required. The county has allowed $1,250,000 and has the unused mitigation credit from the recently created artificial reef to offset mitigation requirements on this project. The pier construction will take about 2 years to complete. A total of 8.6 million will be spent for pier and facilities; 3,700 for office space/restrooms/snack bar is provide in addition to 1,700 SF of observation deck. The observation deck will be elevated just over the turn around at the end of Vanderbilt Beach road. This project could also be done in phases. The concept would be to develop a master plan footprint now, build the facilities as soon as permitting could be obtained and concurrently begin permitting for the pier. Traffic study has been completed and indicates sufficient capacity for increased traffic. This traffic study was conducted in the middle of November 2007. A capacity and shutdown analysis was done on parking garage since it was opened 18 months ago. The data indicates that the garage has only been shutdown four times a month for about 30 minutes each time. Public concerns that crime will go up as a result of an undesirable element visiting the pier have proven to be unfounded. A review of the Naples Pier incident logs over the past three years did not support an increase in crime. The Naples Pier has been a positive structure for the community. The operation and security of the pier will be enforced by the Collier County Park Rangers with support from Collier County Sheriff's Department. This project is funded by TDC tax monies which are allotted for these types of projects. The area will need to be rezoned from RT to Community Park 2 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 60 of 110 From a larger standpoint, there are 60 miles of coast in Collier County with only fiye County public restroom facilities and one additionally within the City of Naples. Public Comments and Questions 1. Sue Levell- Had many concerns. Noted that from Christmas to March the roads are packed and this will cause increased traffic. Please take snowbirds needs into consideration. Fishing off the pier will bring in larger fish closer to the shore. Parking is a problem and will only be worse with this pier. Fishing pier would be better at Wiggins Pass. The restrooms are over used and need to be replaced. Concerned about the quality of life they will haye if this pier is put in place. Indicated concerned that crime will increase. The turnaround is already very difficult to maneuver and with additional colunms installed for structure it will only be more difficult. Indicated concerned that assessed property value will decrease. Feels this is a very poor use of money. 2. Barbara Klanber - Feels the same was as Sue Levell. Why spend the money at this end of town? 3. Bill Klanber - A message in its self that no people from District 1 showed up. 4. Gary McAlpin - There were no more comments and Mr. McAlpin thanked everyone for attending. Adjourned 6:50pm 3 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 61 of 110 MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting Golden Gate Community Center District 3 Naples, Florida, February 25, 2008 LET IT BE REMEMBERED that Collier County Staff, having conducted a Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting for District 1, on this date at 6:00 PM at Golden Gate Community Center, 4701 Golden Gate Parkway, Naples, Florida, with the following speakers present: Gary McAlpin, Coastal Zone Management Director ALSO PRESENT: Commissioner Jim Coletta Marla Ramsey, Public Service Administrator Barry Williams, Parks & Recreation Director Murdo Smith, Parks &Recreation Regional Manager Gail Hambright, Tourist Tax Coordinator Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 62 of 110 Introductorv Remarks Gary McAlpin welcomed everyone to the meeting and introduced the other Collier County Staff members that were present. Presentation Gary McAlpin Discussed concept for recreational pier. Presented aerials indicating where facility would be constructed and various designs to be considered with shade screens. Permitting process with FDEP will take 2 to 3 years to permit project. Permitting will be difficult but no impossible. All of the last 6 piers have been permitted by the state. There will be minimal amount of impact to coral reefs but mitigation will be required. The county has allowed $1,250,000 and has the unused mitigation credit from the recently created artificial reef to offset mitigation requirements on this project. The pier construction will take about 2 years to complete. A total of 8.6 million will be spent for pier and facilities; 3,700 for office space/restrooms/snack bar is provide in addition to 1,700 SF of observation deck. The observation deck will be elevated just over the turn around at the end of Vanderbilt Beach road. This project could also be done in phases. The concept would be to develop a master plan footprint now, build the facilities as soon as permitting could be obtained and concurrently begin permitting for the pier. Traffic study has been completed and indicates sufficient capacity for increased traffic. This traffic study was conducted in the middle of November 2007. A capacity and shutdown analysis was done on parking garage since it was opened 18 months ago. The data indicates that the garage has only been shutdown four times a month for about 30 minutes each time. Public concerns that crime will go up as a result of an undesirable element visiting the pier have proven to be unfounded. A reyiew of the Naples Pier incident logs over the past three years did not support an increase in crime. The Naples Pier has been a positive structure for the community. The operation and security of the pier will be enforced by the Collier County Park Rangers with support from Collier County Sheriffs Department. This project is funded by TDC tax monies which are allotted for these types of projects. The area will need to be rezoned from RT to Community Park From a larger standpoint, there are 60 miles of coast in Collier County with only five County public restroom facilities and one additionally within the City of Naples. 2 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 63 of 110 Public Comments and Questions Questions and comments presented from the audience with the appropriate response were as follows: 1. Jay Walsh - Noted that he felt Naples Pier stinks, also extra traffic will make it very difficult as the beach at Vanderbilt is already crowded. Has the county looked other place to place this pier? Gary McAlpin commented, the only practical place we have to place this pier is at Vanderbilt. At the north end there is no room. We do not have the space to deal with this type of a facility anywhere else. To repair the current restroom facilities we would need to raise the facility up and expand; we currently have restricted covenants with Pelican Bay in this area. 2. Jackie Bammed - lives at Gu1fshore and understood that this pier was being built to draw tourist. Concerns of parking issues will increase and a structure over the beautiful roundabout will take away from the area. We will also lose some of the beach view and felt that we did not need two piers in Naples. Gary McAlpin commented traffic would be addressed so any problems would be minimal. 3. Paul Murphy - This pier will change the character of the beach. Typically, piers become ugly over time. The only facility clean is at Clam Pass. Gary McAlpin commented this will be built for 50 year storm not 50 year life, and we will maintain the structure. 4. Carol Griffin - Carol is from Island Walk. She raised the questions, has anyone asked the public if they have a desire for this? This pier is being forced on Naples. I go to this beach for what it is today. Voiced her concern of not wanting to swim with fishing hooks, and this pier will contribute to the bad smell. Gary McAlpin commented, I can't answer this question. We were asked to do this study by the BCC. Beach access has been very limited to all residents of Collier County. Weare having this meeting just for the opposite reason, to get your input and return to the BCC with your responses. Commissioner Coletta commented that he has gone through this process many times and the people that show up are the people that have a problem with the proposal. People that don't show up don't have a problem. Collier County is growing and more people will come if things are opened up and available. For every one person that is 3 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 64 of 110 against this I can give you 25 people that agree with the building this pier. Many people in my district want this facility. We need to continue the course to go through the process. 4. King Forness - Pelican Marsh - very strongly we haye more people and a beautiful beach with limited amenities and space. 5. David Galloway - I am all for haying more access but constructively. The beach was backed up today. Three days ago there must have been 100 pelicans at Naples pier eating scraps. The restrooms are horrible. There are better ways to do this than spending money for study after study. A restaurant will compete with restaurants in the area. The Ritz Carlton, why do we want to lost tourist tax dollars from this five star hotel? Where will we be in 10 years? Will we be another Coney Island? This pier will not create a good atmosphere. Security problems. Why not use money for something else. Do 50% increase on restrooms. Let's not ruin it. Gary McAlpin commented, would be a major project just to do restroom. 6, Stephen Wright - A longtime fisherman - many nice spots to fish in Naples. Forget the pier. Upgrade the restroom. Put money towards something else. Upgrade Wiggins Pass. Gary McAlpin commented, that Delnor Wiggins Pass they believe is at capacity. Marla Ramsey commented, the state park close the doors before capacity is full. This is a recreation area and they are not running as a recreational area. We manage Barefoot beach for the state at no cost and have a good relationship with them. 7. Question - Will this go to the citizens to vote? Gary McAlpin commented, no, we will take our finding back to the BCC that is why I am requested that you fill out the forms we have provided and put in your own words your concerns and questions. 8. Question - Will the traffic study be done by the I sf of April. Gary McAlpin commented more work will need to be done first. 9. Question - What ifrestrooms were just to be done where would the funds come from. Gary McAlpin commented, from TDC funds Marla Ramsey commented, to touch on restroom facilities we would have to get permission from Pelican Bay. There are also restroom on the 2nd floor ofthe parking garage. 4 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 65 of 110 Gary McAlpin commented, if there are no more questions, thank you for attending and please turn your comments and questions in. Participant's written responses and questions are attached. Adjourned 7:20 5 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting Golden Gate Community Center 4701 Golden Gate Parkway, Naples Monday, February 25, 2008 District 3 6 to 8 p.m. Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 66 of 110 Name: Carol Wright Address: 9375 Gulfshore Drive Phone Number: Zip: 34108 Question (1 questions per sheet): If the showing of people from district 3 is any indication of their interest in a pier. I would highly suggest forgetting your whole idea of pier and restaurant. Answer: 6 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 67 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting Golden Gate Community Center 4701 Golden Gate Parkway, Naples Monday, February 25, 2008 District 3 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Susan Stiefel Address: 336 Oak Ave. Phone Number: Zip: 34108 Question (l questions per sheet): Against the Pier - mess - bird feces - hooks. line bait - chum and predator fish lured in. Answer: 7 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 68 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting Golden Gate Community Center 4701 Golden Gate Parkway, Naples Monday, February 25, 2008 District 3 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Susan Stiefel Address: 336 Oak Ave. Phone Number: Zip: 34108 Question (1 questions per sheet): Please protect the view corridor at the end of Vanderbilt Beach Road. A bathroom building sitting UP 50' in the air would ruin it. Answer: 8 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 69 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting Golden Gate Community Center 4701 Golden Gate Parkway, Naples Monday, February 25, 2008 District 3 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Jay Walsh & Bea Walsh Address: 691 92nd Ave. N. Phone Number: 566-9723 Zip: 34108 Question (l questions per sheet): Why was this location Vanderbilt Beach selected for pier? What was the criteria for selection? Why would Collier county deem it necessary to disturb the pristine beauty ofV.B. with any type of structure - let alone a massive- one ~ with a huge footprint on a beach that is already busy with people gathering and socializing; with 6 food and beverage sources in the immediate area - 3 on the beach. 3 across Gulfshore Drive - iust 1 to 2 blocks away!! And with NOT ENOUGH PARKING!! From Jay Walsh: Commissioner Hallas has suggested that we need a location on Vanderbilt Beach for residents to gather replacing the Chickie Bar from the old Vanderbilt Inn. I suggest that a pier/restaurant at the north end of the beach would better sere the residents and visitors to Collier County. For these reasons: There are no restaurants on or near the north end of the beach. The county is already committed to investing 2+ million dollars for a turnaround and elevated restrooms at the north end of the beach and adding 70 plus parking spaces. There are three restaurants already on the south end of Vanderbilt Beach. Gtunbo Limbo at the Ritz. The turtle and La Playa have beach locations. plus. Buzz's Lighthouse. the Palm Beach Cafe and The Beach Store all serve the south end of the beach. The three hotels collect TDC taxes to pay for the proposed pier and we would have a government 9 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 70 of 110 facility competing with local business. The Ritz Carlton has obiected to a per located next to their Five Star facility. The restrooms on the south end of VB could be upgraded for lOOk over two years to meet FIMA guidelines. This would save the county approximately 2 million dollars. The south end of Vanderbilt Beach is already congested. The additional traffic that the ?ier would generate plus normal increases in traffic with growth in the county would make the Vanderbilt Beach Rd. area very difficult for all who use this on a dailv basis. I ask the commissioners to exercise good fiduciary responsibility and not create a problem that would be yery expensiye to solve with road widening needed much sooner than growth alone would require. If additional parking is needed at the north end of Vanderbilt Beach. I challenge the county and the state to work quickly and in harmony to serve their common constituents. Answer: 10 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 71 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting Golden Gate Community Center 4701 Golden Gate Parkway, Naples Monday, February 25, 2008 District 3 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Jackie Bammel Address: 9486 Gulfshore Drive Phone Number: Zip: 39108 Question (1 questions per sheet): Please "NO" 29-39' structures to block the view we now ellJOY. Answer: 11 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting Golden Gate Community Center 4701 Golden Gate Parkway, Naples Monday, February 25, 2008 District 3 6 to 8 p.m. Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 72 of 110 Name: Carol Griffin Address: 4200 Refona Lane Phone Number: Zip: 34119 Question (1 questions per sheet): Vanderbilt Beach is renown for people enioying water sports: swimming. boating. parasailing to name a few. This proposal will endanger people in the water because bail will attract sharks. This recreational pier" is unnecessary because it will have ill effects on the recreations of choice by current users of Vanderbilt Beach. In addition the "snack bar" will contribute to an excess of trash. will create offensive odor and allow groups of?eoP!e to "hang out". People come to Vanderbilt Beach because of the amenities it offers as it is today. This is their CHOICE for recreation. Why do yOU feel these facilities are "critically needed"? 96 incidents at Naples Pier - Ifwe have no pier we will avoid these incidents. If the county wants to "increase beach access" than they need to open more/different locations along the coast. I personally feel that the $42.000 appropriated to "study the fishing pier" would haye been better spent upgrading the bathroom facilities at V.B. I personally feel that this construction should be a referendum item. 12 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 73 of 110 People have Vanderbilt Beach the way it is today. Please recognize the fact that we the people choose to enjoy this beach as it is Keep it Natural! Answer: 13 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 74 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting Golden Gate Community Center 4701 Golden Gate Parkway, Naples Monday, February 25, 2008 District 3 6 to 8 p.m. Name: David Gallaway Address: 9051 Gulfshore Drive #501 Zip: 34108 Phone Number: 597-0361 Question (1 questions per sheet): Present restroom can be up-graded! No restaurant is needed with the other private restaurants in the area. Security issues are of concern. Naples pier is definitely not clean. pelicans. fishhooks. bait. etc. Answer: 14 Agenda Item No.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 75 of 110 Article was provided that rant in the Naples Daily News (no date attached): Letter of the Day Sunset drill Editor, Daily News: The other day I took the family and out-of-town guests to see the sunset at the Naples Pier. What we saw was very disturbing - all those people there to watch the sunset had to watch some fisherman at the end of the pier dangling pelicans that were either caught on hooks or entangled in fishermen's lines being made fun of When my wife complained, she was told to go back where she came from Well, we are full-time residents and have just as much right as others to be there. Also, fishermen were casting with hooks on the line without regard to anyone behind them. I saw two people get hit by a fish that was yanked up and onto the crowd. There were fish just left to flop around on the deck while people walked by. There was a fisherman who had cut up a small ray for bait; it was left out for everyone to see - just under the sign saying not to do this. After sunset we finally saw some non-uniformed police come out, but everyone was leaving by then. I'm not against fishing on the pier, but I thin that it should stop a half-hour before sunset and not restune until a half- hour afterward Brian Reed Naples 15 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 76 of 110 MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting Max Hasse Community Park District 5 Naples, Florida, March 12, 2008 LET IT BE REMEMBERED that Collier County Staff, having conducted a Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting for District 5, on this date at 6:00 PM at Max Hasse Community Park, 3390 Golden Gate Boulevard, Naples, Florida, with the following speakers present: Gary McAlpin, Coastal Zone Management Director ALSO PRESENT: Barry Williams, Parks & Recreation Director Murdo Smith, Parks &Recreation Regional Manager Gail Hambright, Tourist Tax Coordinator 1 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 77 of 110 Introductory Remarks Gary McAlpin welcomed everyone to the meeting and introduced the other Collier County Staff members that were present. Presentation Gary McAlpin Discussed concept for recreational pier. Presented aerials indicating where facility would be constructed and various designs to be considered with shade screens. Permitting process with FDEP will take 2 to 3 years to permit project. Permitting will be difficult but no impossible. All of the last 6 piers have been permitted by the state. There will be minimal amount of impact to coral reefs but mitigation will be required. The county has allowed $1,250,000 and has the unused mitigation credit from the recently created artificial reef to offset mitigation requirements on this project. The pier construction will take about 2 years to complete. A total of 8.6 million will be spent for pier and facilities; 3,700 for office space/restrooms/snack bar is provide in addition to 1,700 SF of observation deck. The observation deck will be elevated just over the turn around at the end of Vanderbilt Beach road. This project could also be done in phases. The concept would be to develop a master plan footprint now, build the facilities as soon as permitting could be obtained and concurrently begin permitting for the pier. Traffic study has been completed and indicates sufficient capacity for increased traffic. This traffic study was conducted in the middle of November 2007. A capacity and shutdown analysis was done on parking garage since it was opened 18 months ago. The data indicates that the garage has only been shutdown four times a month for about 30 minutes each time. Public concerns that crime will go up as a result of an undesirable element visiting the pier have proven to be unfounded. A review of the Naples Pier incident logs over the past three years did not support an increase in crime. The Naples Pier has been a positive structure for the community. The operation and security of the pier will be enforced by the Collier County Park Rangers with support from Collier County Sheriffs Department. This project is funded by TDC tax monies which are allotted for these types of projects. The area will need to be rezoned from RT to Community Park From a larger standpoint, there are 60 miles of coast in Collier County with only five County public restroom facilities and one additionally within the City of Naples. 2 Agenda Item No.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 78 of 110 Public Comments and Questions Questions and comments presented from the audience with the appropriate response were as follows: 1. Concern regarding shark attaches and wanted to know ifthere had been attached to the Naples Pier? Gary McAlpin commented, not that we were aware of. 2. Why would the demand for this pier be at Vanderbilt and what about traffic and parking at other facilities? Gary McAlpin commented that we do not have traffic information at other county facilities. We also do not have available space at other facilities to build a pier. 3. Suggestion was made for our Governor to be invitee down here to see the improvements that we need. Gary McAlpin noted that Collier County has had workshops and continues to work with the State Departments. 4. Commit was made that they did not see anyone at the meeting that wanted the pier. Raised the question if it wasn't more cost effective to add additional parking at a different facility. Gary McAlpin commented that we are very limited to where parking garages can be added. 5. Noted that swimming would be a problem within 150 ft of each side of pier. Gary McAlpin noted that he was not sure if no swimming zone meant no sitting or wading zone. This is a County Ordinance and will be looked into. 6. If the no swimming ordinance enforced at the Naples Pier? Gary McAlpin could not commit on this issue. 7. Gentleman voiced support of pier, but voiced concern if this was the best place. Large buildings tend to look ugly at the end of a road and thought it would be more like the current Naples Pier. We are talking about a year round facility that is not full year round and I know because I live here. Gary McAlpin commented that usage was high right now during season but will go down after season. Additional studies will be made. 3 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 79 of 110 8. Will you never widen Vanderbilt Beach Road. Gary McAlpin commented that he would not say that. If the report comes out we will address that, but right now it is not at capacity. 9. Why doesn't the city do this project? The current facility is about 15 what will the new facility look like in 15 years? Gary McAlpin commented that part of this project would be to maintain the new facility. 10. Commit was made very against what was going to be placed at this facility. Gary McAlpin commented that we want to leave open what we will be placing at this facility, be it a snack bar, restroom, meeting facilities, etc. This project could be done in phases till more community support. 11. Commit was made that these meetings are a charade, Commissioners have said pier is going in one way or another. Gary McAlpin commented that this is not true and these meeting are not a charade. 12. Commit was made that there are a number of places in Collier County to fish. Very limited to go to the beach and enjoy without the smell of dead fish. Gary McAlpin commented that it is hard to gage support when this project is so far in the future. I bet at the Naples Pier it is not just limited to fishermen, so I don't know why you would think this is built just for fishing? 13. Has the Fort Myers fishing pier been looked at? Not very pleasant. Gary McAlpin commented that we looked at Naples as a bench mark. 14. Why not look at Fort Myers? Gary McAlpin commented that Fort Myers a different area, more of a commercial area. 15. Question was present, why so far out? Gary McAlpin commented we need to go out 1,000 feet to get to water 20 feet deep. 4 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 80 of 110 16. Commit was made that what is attracted to Naples Pier now is very different from Vanderbilt. Suggested was made, why not have the county re-covenant with Pelican Bay Property owners to build oyer existing facility. Gary McAlpin commented we will look into that. 17. How are you going to gage how the people feel? I expected to see more people here. Commissioner Colletta said his people were for it. Gary McAlpin commented we will take all comments and answers and submit to the BCC. We will place this on our website sometime in April. 18. Is it possible for the swimming ordinance to be changed? Gary McAlpin commented yes it can but I can't say it will be. 19. Commit was made, what is shadow? All you will see is the wood not the water. Gary McAlpin commented our opinion was it will not be blocked by structure, point taken that you do not want view taken away. 20. What will the BCC do with this information you are providing? Gary McAlpin commented I am not going to guess what the BCC will do. 21. Have we asked the hotelier what they want? Gary McAlpin commented we do that at our monthly meetings and reviewed by the TDC. 22. Question was asked if the new public water park was paying for itself. Barry Williams commented that 90% paying for itself through the water park. Softball parks do not pay for themselves. This year we should be at break even. 23. Commit was made that education should be built into this pier by Parks & Recreation. Commit was made that this was a good suggestion. 24. Question was raised about concerns of potential storms or hurricanes. Gary McAlpin commented this pier will be built 20 feet tall to running wave surge. It will haye the latest technology in design where areas of pier will be removed till after storm. 5 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 81 of 110 Participant's written responses and questions are attached. Adjourned 7:30 pm Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting Max Hasse Community Park 3390 Golden Gate Boulevard, Naples Wednesday, March 12,2008 District 5 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Richard Cronehwett Address: 8610 G1eneagle Way Phone Number: 354-4781 Zip: 34120 Question (I questions per sheet): Parking is full now. This should go at State Park (Wiggins) Answer: 6 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 82 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting Max Hasse Community Park 3390 Golden Gate Boulevard, Naples Wednesday, March 12, 2008 District 5 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Richard Cronehwett Address: 8610 Gleneag1e Way Phone Number: 354-4781 Zip: 34120 Question (1 questions per sheet): Present pier is dirty. it is SCary at night. This is a security problem. Answer: 7 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 83 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting Max Hasse Community Park 3390 Golden Gate Boulevard, Naples Wednesday, March 12,2008 District 5 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Richard Cronehwett Address: 8610 Gleneagle Way Phone Number: 354-4781 Zip: 34120 Question (l questions per sheet): This takes away 300' + of beach. We lose our beach. We have to haul our stuff up beach. Answer: 8 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 84 of 110 Vanderbilt Pier Public Information Meeting Max Hasse Community Park 3390 Golden Gate Boulevard, Naples Wednesday, March 12,2008 District 5 6 to 8 p.m. Name: Bea Walsh Address: 691 nnd Ave. N. Phone Number: 566-9723 Zip: 34108 Question (1 questions per sheet): It is obvious that a more appropriate solution for more beach access would be more parking garages - at 1. Lowdermilk Park: 2. Clam Pass: 3 Conner Park; **4 4. Barefoot Beach area. Talk with the state about Wiggins Pass garage. OR Bus. trolley and free transportation to other areas of the beach - example Clam Pass. Conner: Wiggins Pass; Barefoot area. Spread the beach access around There is currently only one parking garage why not more Answer: 9 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 85 of 110 10 Agenda Item No.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 86 of 110 MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE PELICAN BAY PROPERTY OWNERS Pelican Bay Community Center Naples, Florida, February 19,2008 LET IT BE REMEMBERED that the Pelican Bay Property Owners and Collier County Staff, having conducted business herein, met on this date at 7:00 PM at Pelican Bay Community Center, 8960 Hammock Oak Drive, Naples, Florida, with the following speakers present: Commissioner Frank Halas Leo Ochs, Deputy County Manager Gary McAlpin, Coastal Zone Management Director Dave Trecker, Chairman of the Pelican Bay Property Owners ALSO PRESENT: Marla Ramsey, Public Services Administrator Barry Williams, Parks & Recreation Director Nick Casalanguida, Trans/Planning Director Murdo Smith, Parks & Recreation Regional Manager John Sullivan, Ranger Interpretive Gail Hambright, Tourist Tax Coordinator Camden Smith, Public Information Coordinator Lieutenant Andy Prisco, North Naples District Commander Bill McDonald, Patrol Division Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 87 of 110 Introductory Remarks Dave Trucker welcomed everyone to the meeting and went over the procedures and setup for the meeting and introduced the speakers. Commissioner Halas introduced the staff; spoke briefly about tourism, beach re-nourishment, beach access, beach parking and the need to up-grade beach facilities. Leo Ochs provided a background on the feasibility study and how issues identified would be dealt with if this project goes forward. Indicated that Collier County was here to fulfill the BCC directives to share with Collier County Community and forward finding at a future BCC meeting. Staff was to receive input/concerns from the entire community and then report back to the BCC their fmdings in late March or early April 2008. This is the fIrst of a series if 5 information meetings held with the community. Presentations Gary McAlpin discussed concept of a recreational pier. Presented aerials indicating where the facility would be constructed and various designs to be considered. The point was stressed that at this time everything is preliminary. Permitting process with FDEP will take 2 to 3 years to complete. Permitting will be difficult but not impossible. All of the last 6 piers have been permitted by the state. There will be minimal amount of impact to coral reefs but mitigation will be required. The county has allowed $1,250,000 and has the unused mitigation credit from the recently created artificial reef to offset mitigation requirements on this project. The pier construction will take about 2 years to complete. A total of$8.6 million will be spent for pier and facilities; 3,700 SF of office space/restrooms/snack bar is provided in addition to 1,700 SF of observation deck. The Observation deck will be elevated just over the turn around at the end of Vanderbilt Beach road. This project could also be done in phases. The concept would be to develop a master plan footprint now, build the facilities as soon as permitting could be obtained and concurrently begin permitting for the pier. Traffic study has been completed and indicates sufficient capacity for increased traffic. This traffic study was conducted in the middle of November 2007. A capacity and shutdown analysis was done on parking garage since it was opened 18 months ago. The data indicates that the garage has only been shutdown four times a month for about 30 minutes each time. Public concerns that crime will go up as a result of an undesirable element visiting the pier have proven to be unfounded. A review of the Naples Pier incident logs over the past three years did 2 Agenda Item No.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 88 of 110 not support an increase in crime. The Naples Pier has been a positiye structure for the community. The operation and security of the pier will be enforced by the Collier County Park Rangers with support from Collier County Sheriffs Department. This project is funded using TDC tax monies which are allotted for these types of projects. The area will need to be rezoned from RT to Community Park. From a larger standpoint, there are 60 miles of coast in Collier County with only five County public restroom facilities and one additionally within the City of Naples. Public Comments and Questions Dave Tucker began by expressing additional concerns for traffic and when the parking analysis was done. In response, Gary McAlpin indicated that there will be a number of issues we will look at as we move forward to address this concern. Nick Casalanguida also indicated that site impact study and analysis will be done if the Commission elects to move forward with this project. Questions and comments presented from the audience with the appropriate response were as follows: 1. Felt this was a slap in the face to the Ritz Carlton and it is an insult for Bay Colony within Pelican Bay. Some nice people will use the pier but mostly a bad element and the property yalues will decrease. Commissioner Halas commented that security is one of our biggest concerns and will be addressed. The County will not jeopardize your safety. 2. Where is the demand for a pier come from? Delnor- Wiggins Park has more room, why not move the pier to that location? Commissioner Halas commented that a lot of people that live on the other side of Highway 41 have a hard time to get to the beach. This is where the demand is coming from. And the Commissioners must look at the needs of the entire community. Gary McAlpin commented that this is the only location in the County that will support a pier. We have worked with the State Park and will continue to work with the State Park to try to locate the pier at this location. Currently, there is not enough room to site a pier anywhere but Vanderbilt Beach Road and the park is unwilling to consider this possibility at their location. 3. Can't this be addressed though our state representative? Gary McAlpin commented that this is something we can look at and address in our report to the Commission. 3 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 89 of 110 4. A public apology was given to Commissioner Halas for remarks made under this item at the January 15,2008 BCC meeting. The commenter then asked, what other projects were being considered to improve parking in the area? Commissioner Halas responded that Connors Park was being rebuilt to add 96 additional parking spaces. 5. A questioner concurred with the need for facilities on the beach and asked ifthere was a trade off if they agreed to the facilities in place of the pier? The questioner also asked if in light of the increased traffic generated from these facilities, would it would be prudent to widen Vanderbilt Road? Nick Casalanguida commented that these facilities by themselves will generate no demand and would be addressed in a really good site impact study. Gary McAlpin commented that if the existing bathrooms were rebuilt, FEMA would require them to be elevated 12 feet. Phasing the facilities would address the bathroom needs and would be presented as an option to the Commission if community support for the Pier was not evident. 6. A public speaker commented that the Ritz Carlton is important to Naples and this project would have a negative effect on these establishments and TDC funds and for that reason, this project should be abandoned. 7. A commenter asked, relative to the feasibility of this project, why are TDC monies being used? How are they going to get the money; isn't it already committed? What about the committees that these request have to go through? Gary McAlpin commented that these requests will go to the CAC, P&R Advisory Board and to the BCC. TDC Funds pay for beach park facilities and can only be used for these type of projects. A funding analysis will be presented to the BCC with the results of this public comment period. 8. A member of the public noted that the parking garage had been closed during the hours of 11-12 am. When full people will park on our property and there will be no privacy. Commissioner Halas commented that he understands and appreciates this concerns and that is what this meeting is about to make sure we are not looking in your living room. Any proposal approved by the BCC will have an effective parking plan with it. 9. Concerned was expressed by a resident that this project will have a negative effect on property values. 4 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 90 of 110 -- Commissioner Halas responded that the Naples Pier has been in Naples for a ntunber of years and property values have not been negatively impacted but have increased. 10. A follow-up comment to Commissioner Halas noted that Naples Pier property was deyeloped before the surrounding neighborhoods were established. Commissioner Halas responded that the property values around the pier are not depressed relative to comparable property in the surrounding beach community. I I. A resident stated that he moved to Vanderbilt for the serenity and the pier will destroy that serenity and that the rest of the community does not have a problem getting to the beach. Gary McAlpin stated that if anything is done, the objective will strive for the balance between maintaining the quality of the beach experience for the current residents and additional facilities and access for the balance of the community. 12. A resident felt very concerned that the existing restrooms are in disarray. Why not do a 20% improvement each year. Gary McAlpin commented that the restrooms need to be rebuilt and expanded and that would involye elevating to conform to new flood plain guidelines. Refurbishing 20 % a year would violate current ordinances and trigger a rebuild. Renovations would not enlarge the facility. 13. A resident expressed concerns about security and what exactly would be done to protect the residents? Marla Ramsey commented that we haye not resolved the exact type of security that would be employed at the pier. Security would be by park rangers and then the sheriff s office. The county has not resolved if security camera, locking the facility, 24 hour presence or a combination of these would be implemented. Marla also commented that the county can't increase the restroom facilities without violating PUD and deed restrictions. 14. During season it is very difficult to make a left turn on to Vanderbilt Beach Road from Gulf Shore Drive. The resident has concern that this project will prohibit making left hand turns. Commented that indicated that both sides of Vanderbilt Beach Road will be widened sometime right after season. An In-depth traffic study will cover his concerns and be presented to the community in the next phase of this project if it goes forward. Break Out Session The general question and answer session of the meeting was concluded and five break out tables had been set up to answer specific questions: Traffic and Parking, Pier, Phasing Approach, 5 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 93 of 110 Pelican Bay Property Owners Meeting Pelican Bay community Center Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:00 till 9:00 p.m. Name: Rollin Rhea Address: 9051 Gu1fshore Drive Unit 103 Phone Number: 317 439-8115 or 593-7941 Zip34 108 Question (1 questions per sheet): Upgrade restroom at no charge to community, call for details. Answer: 8 Agenda Item No.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 94 of 110 Pelican Bay Property Owners Meeting Pelican Bay community Center Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:00 till 9:00 p.m. Name: Susan Stiefel Address:336 Oak Ave Phone Ntunber: 264-0559 Zip:34108 Question (1 questions per sheet): Fix the bathroom now. Answer: 9 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 95 of 110 Pelican Bay Property Owners Meeting Pelican Bay community Center Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:00 till 9:00 p.m. Name: Stephen Seioel Address:6830 San Marino Dr. #712 Phone Number: 598-1614 Zip: 34108 Question (1 questions per sheet): We want your traffic count (study) to be very precise when studying the volume of traffic on Pelican Bay Blvd. Answer: 10 Agenda Item No. lOB May 13, 2008 Page 96 of 110 ,r-- Pelican Bay Property Owners Meeting Pelican Bay community Center Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:00 till 9:00 p.m. Name: Jackie Bammel Address: Gulfshore Drive Phone Number: Zip: Question (1 questions per sheet): We are experiencing gridlock on Gulfshore Drive. Vanderbilt Drive and Bluebill already. We have traffic backup east and west entry into the parking garage creating very dangerous situation. What will yOU do to correct this NOW? Answer: r- r- 11 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 99 of 110 Pelican Bay Property Owners Meeting Pelican Bay community Center Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:00 till 9:00 p.m. Name: Daye Trecker Address: Pelican Bay Phone Number: 597-5675 Zip: Question (1 questions per sheet): The parking analysis is flawed. With only measurements as "full and "not full" tracked. The garage "although 338 of 340 spaces taken) would be listed as "not full". Since it is "not full" most of the time. there is considered "no parking problem". A proper loading analysis is needed. Answer: 14 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 100 of 110 Pelican Bay Property Owners Meeting Pelican Bay community Center Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:00 till 9:00 p.m. Name: Barbara Donlev Address: 905 I Gulfshore Drive Phone Number: 597-8803 Zip: 34108 Question (1 questions per sheet): . Parking Garage WhY not haye patrons take a ticket upon arrival eliminating money exchange at that time and pay upon exiting? Answer: 15 Agenda Item No.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 101 of 110 Pelican Bay Property Owners Meeting Pelican Bay community Center Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:00 till 9:00 p.m. Name: Bill Klauber Address: 6597 Nicholas Blvd. Phone Number: 598-4229 Zip: 34108 Question (I questions per sheet): .What agency (State or Federal) must approve the pier and where and when have the most recent 6 piers been built? Are they in residential areas? Answer: 16 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 102 of 110 Pelican Bay Property Owners Meeting Pelican Bay community Center Tuesday, February 19,2008 7:00 till 9:00 p.m. Name: Bryon Trerice Address: 8171 Bay Co lony Drive Phone Number: 566-7131 Zip: 34108 Question (1 questions per sheet): Are YOU going to employ a consultant from the hospitality industry that represents four and five star resort hotels to determine impact that such a per would have on such property? Answer: 17 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 103 of 110 Pelican Bay Property Owners Meeting Pelican Bay community Center Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:00 till 9:00 p.m. Name: Maureen Trerice Address: 8171 Bay Colony Drive Phone Number: 566-7131 And bill Klauser Question (1 questions per sheet): .IdentifY the (6) piers that the contractor has built in Florida. Is that been built in residential (fully built out) neighborhoods? Zip: 34108 Answer: 18 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 104 of 110 Pelican Bay Property Owners Meeting Pelican Bay community Center Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:00 till 9:00 p.m. Name: D. Ritgen Address: 5964 Pelican Bay Blvd. #416 Zip: 34108 Phone Number 566-2761 Question (1 questions per sheet):Look at safety/security issues at similar Florida piers. Answer: 19 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 105 of 110 Pelican Bay Property Owners Meeting Pelican Bay community Center Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:00 till 9:00 p.m. Name: Jim Hppensteadt Address: Pelican Bay Foundation Phone Number: 596-6180 Zip: 34108 Question (l questions per sheet): County and City Ordinance restricts swimming and boating within 105' of either side of a pier - how does it make sense to sacrifice 320' of beach for 1000' of pier? Answer: 20 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 106 of 110 Pelican Bay Property Owners Meeting Pelican Bay community Center Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:00 till 9:00 p.m. Name: T.A. Ward Address: 800 Lambiance Circle #102 Phone Number: 412-812-1363 Zip: 34108 Question (1 questions per sheet): Does the acceptance of the phased approach mean the proiect is a fait accompli? Answer: 21 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13. 2008 Page 107 of 110 Pelican Bay Property Owners Meeting Pelican Bay community Center Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:00 till 9:00 p.m. Name: Barbara Donley Address: 9051 Gulfshore Drive Phone Number: 597-8803 Zip: 34 I 08 Question (1 questions per sheet): .Concern about emergency vehicles haying access to beach with pier structure. Answer: 22 Agenda Item NO.1 OB May 13, 2008 Page 108 of 110 Pelican Bay Property Owners Meeting Pelican Bay community Center Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:00 till 9:00 p.m. Name: T.A. Ward Address: 800 L'ambiance Circle #102 Phone Number: 412-812-1363 Zip: 34108 Question (1 questions per sheet): I am a recent newcomer to this area. I am appalled that in such a beautiful community that there is so much trash in the commercial! public areas. There seems to be a probation to returning shopping carts to their proper place!! Given this proclivity. can you tell me how the pier proposal will not add to the problem? Answer: 23 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 109 of 110 Pelican Bay Property Owners Meeting Pelican Bay community Center Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:00 till 9:00 p.m. Name: T.A. Ward Address: 800 L'ambiance Circle #102 Phone Number: 412-812-1363 Zip: 34108 Question (I questions per sheet): This proiect will bring much traffic and additional residents to the beach What Plans exist to augment security and maintenance personnel to accommodate the influx? Answer: 24 Agenda Item No. 10B May 13, 2008 Page 110 of 110 Pelican Bay Property Owners Meeting Pelican Bay community Center Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:00 till 9:00 p.m. Name: Brad Potter Address: 515 Via Veneto #202 Zip: 34 I 08 Phone Number: 273-9131 Question (l questions per sheet): A. 2 condo developments on N. Pointe Drive much extra traffic of people going to be coming from pier on N. PT. Drive Difficult to now make Left from these condos. B. People will exit Vanderbilt beach Road ASAP thru Pelican Bay rather than staying on Vanderbilt Beach Road to 41. Answer: 25