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Agenda 10/27/2009 Item #10DAgenda Item No. 10D October 27, 2009 Page 1 of 26 EXECUTIVE SUMMARY Recommendation and reconsideration to (1) grant the Solid Waste Management Department the authority to pursue an amendment to Ordinance 05 -46 to rezone Bembridge PUD Tract "A" from Residential PUD to Community Facility PUD to be processed by CDES on an expedited or fast track basis, (2) contingent upon the rezone approval, approve a transfer of 5.11 acres, Bembridge PUD Tract "A ", from the Collier County Emergency Medical Services Department (EMS) to the Solid Waste Management Department for the relocation of the Naples Recycling Center, at a cost not to exceed $450,000 and (3) approve budget amendments to transfer funds in the amount of $419,734 from the Collier County Solid Waste Management Fund (474), Solid Waste Capital Projects, Project 70013, Santa Barbara Recycling Center to the EMS Fund 350. OBJECTIVE: The public purpose is to provide an improved, more cost effective and centrally located recycling center that will serve the Collier County residents by constructing a new recycling center at Santa Barbara Boulevard and relocating the existing County Recycling Center from leased space at the Naples Airport. CONSIDERATIONS: The Board of County Commissioners (BCC) granted the Solid Waste Management Department authority to pursue an amendment to rezone the land back to its original use as a community facility and to then purchase the Bembridge property on June 23, 2009, as agenda item 16C3 which was moved to agenda item IOH. At the end of the BCC �^ meeting, the Chairman of the BCC requested the item be brought back for reconsideration. The County's Solid Waste Management Department is responsible for ensuring that the Collier County Landfill ( "Landfill ") has sufficient capacity available for the disposal of the County's solid waste. Accordingly, the Department has prepared an Integrated Solid Waste Management Strategy ( "Strategy "), which has been reviewed and approved by the Board on December 5, 2006. The Strategy requires the Department to maximize and optimize its use of the County's existing assets, including the Landfill and recycling centers. Securing and developing recycling centers is a best value solution to increasing recycling and household hazardous waste collection and, in return, saves valuable landfill airspace and protects our environment from illegal dumping. This provides a unique opportunity to more appropriately locate a permanent recycling facility on "county owned" land while reducing the capital cost associated with clearing, reclaiming and constructing a new facility at the Airport Authority leased site. Transferring this property from EMS to Solid Waste fully compensates EMS for the original purchase while providing a fair price to Solid Waste customers. Proactively securing this site benefits the County in the following ways: • The current recycling center site is leased from the Naples Airport Authority at a current cost of $44,627.52 per year and is located on an old landfill. • The current term of the lease is from 10/01/2007 to 9/30/2010. A renewal of the lease is due on or before 4/01/2010. Based on prior communications, the existing leased property is not available for sale; therefore, any capital investment at that site would occur on non- Agenda Item No. 10D October 27, 2009 Page 2 of 26 County owned (leased) property and would require substantial and costly reclamation. (See chart below.) • The Property would provide a centrally located permanent facility in the County. • Relocation from leased property to County -owned property would fulfill the direction of the Board to increase recycling and provide best value solutions to all solid waste and recycling activities. Bembridge 5.11 Acres Naples Airport 3.5 +/- Acres Purchase Price & Closing Costs $ 450,000 Rent Per Year $ 44,627 Construction Cost (estimate) $1,300,000 Construction Cost (estimate) $1,300,000 Design/Permitting (estimate) $ 150,000 Design/Permitting (estimate) $ 175,000 Due Diligence $ 2,500 Partial Reclamation $3,000,000 Rezone $ 30,000 Lease Renewal 30 Yrs $5,037,237 Total $1,932,500 Total $9,556,864 This budget amendment only addresses the transfer in ownership of the property. FISCAL IMPACT: With the BCC rezone approval, budget amendments would be processed in the amount of $419,734 to transfer the funds from the Solid Waste Management Capital Fund m a 474, Project 70013, Santa Barbara Recycling Center to the EMS Fund 350. These funds are available in the FY2010 budget as approved by the BCC on September 24, 2009. GROWTH MANAGEMENT IMPACT: The PUD modification and acquisition of the Bembridge Property is in compliance with the County's Growth Management Plan. The Solid Waste sub - elements of the Plan promote measures that will increase recycling in Collier County. This project also provides concurrency with the Solid Waste Management Department's AUIR Level of Service Standard. LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS: This is a pure policy decision for the Board. The County Attorney's Office will work with staff to implement Board direction. - JBW RECOMMENDATIONS: Staff recommends that the Board of County Commissioners: 1) Grant the Solid Waste Management Department the authority to pursue an amendment to the Bembridge PUD Ordinance rezoning Tract "A" from Residential PUD to Community Facility PUD to be processed by CDES on an expedited or fast track basis; 2) Contingent upon the rezone approval, approve the transfer of the Property between EMS and SWMD; 3) Contingent upon the rezone approval, approve budget amendments to transfer funds in the amount of $419,734 from the Collier County Solid Waste Management Fund (474) Solid Waste Capital Projects, Project 70013, Santa Barbara Recycling Center to the EMS Fund 350, 4) Direct the County Manager or his designee to proceed with the transfer. Agenda Item No. 10D October 27, 2009 Page 3 of 26 PREPARED BY: Mary Jo Thurston, Waste Reduction and Recycling Manager, Solid Waste Management Department. 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COUNTY MANAGER REPORTA... 10/21/2009 COLLIER COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS Item Number: 10D Item Summary: This item to be heard at 3:00 p.m. Recommendation and consideration to (1) grant the Solid Waste Management Department the authority to pursue an amendment to Ordinance 05-46 to rezone Bembridge PUD Tract "A" from Residential PUD to Community Facility PUD to be processed by CDES on an expedited or fast track basis; and, (2) contingent upon the rezone approval, approve a transfer of 5.11 acres, Bembridge PUD Tract "A ", from the Collier County Emergency Medical Services Department (EMS) to the Solid Waste Management Department for the relocation of the Naples Recycling Center, at a cost not to exceed $450,000; and, (3) approve a budget amendment to transfer funds in the amount of $419,734 from the Collier County Solid Waste Management Fund (474), Solid Waste Capital Projects, Project 70013, Santa Barbara Recycling Center to the EMS Fund 350. (Dan Rodriguez, Solid Waste Director) Meeting Date: 10/27/2009 9:00:00 AM Approved By Thomas Wides Operations Director Date Public Utilities Public Utilities Operations 1016/2009 2:07 PM Approved By Mary Jo Thurston Waste Reduction & Recycling Manager Date Public Utilities Solid Waste Department 10/7/2009 1:11 PM Approved By Jennifer White Assistant County Attorney Date County Attorney County Attorney Office 10/7/2009 4:44 PM Approved By Daniel R. Rodriguez Solid Waste Director Date Public Utilities Solid Waste 10/9/2009 10:24 AM Approved By Sue Zimmerman Property Acquisition Specialist Date Administrative Services Facilities Management 10/9/2009 10:37 AM Approved By Dayne Atkinson Project Manager Date Public Utilities Planning and Project Public Utilities Management Department 10!9/2009 11:46 AM Approved By Toni A. Mott Real Property Supervisor Date Administrative Services Facilities Management 10/9/2009 12:51 PM file: / /C: \AgendaTest \Export\137- October 27, 2009 \10. COUNTY MANAGER REPORTA... 10/21/2009 Page 2 of 2 Agenda Item No. 10D October 27, 2009 Page 5 of 26 Approved By Jeff Klatzkow County Attorney Date County Attorney County Attorney Office 101912009 2:59 PM Approved By James W. DeLony Public Utilities Administrator Date Public Utilities Public Utilities Administration 10/12/2009 10:13 AM Approved By OMB Coordinator OMB Coordinator Date County Manager's Office Office of Management & Budget 10/15/2009 11:36 AM • Approved By John A. Yonkosky Director of the Office of Management Date County Manager's Office Office of Management & Budget 10/1912009 5:24 PM Approved By Jeff Page EMS Chief Date Bureau of Emergency EMS 1012012009 7:51 AM Services file: / /C:1AgendaTest\Export1137- October 27, 2009110. COUNTY MANAGER REPORTA... 10/21/2009 EXECUTIVE SUMMARY Recommendation to (1) grant the Solid Waste Management Department the authority to pursue an amendment to Ordinance 05 -46 to rezone Bembridge PUD Tract "A" from Residential PUD to Community Facility PUD to be processed by CDES on an expedited or fast track basis, (2) contingent upon the rezone approval, approve a transfer of 5.11 acres, Bembridge PUD Tract "A ", from the Collier County Emergency Management Services Department (EMS) to the Solid Waste Management Department for the relocation of the Naples Recycling Center, at a cost not to exceed $450,000 and (3) approve a budget amendment to transfer funds in the amount of $500,000 from the Collier County Solid Waste Management Fund (474), Reserve for Capital Contingencies, to a new Project 70013, Naples Recycling Center at 5ap�ta Barbara. OBJECTIVE: The public purpose is to provide an improved, more cost effective and centrally located recycling center that will serve the Collier County residents by constructing a new recycling center at Santa Barbara Boulevard and relocating the existing County Recycling Center from leased space at the Naples Airport. CONSIDERATIONS: The County's Solid Waste Management Department is responsible for ensuring that the Collier County Landfill ( "Landfill ") has sufficient capacity available for the disposal of the County's solid waste. Accordingly, the Department has prepared an Integrated Solid Waste Management Strategy ( "Strategy "), which has been reviewed and approved by the Board on December 5, 2006. The Strategy requires the Department to maximize and optimize its use of the County's existing assets, including the Landfill and recycling centers. Securing and developing recycling centers is a best value solution to increasing recycling and hazardous waste collection and, in return, saves valuable landfill airspace and protects our environment from illegal dumping. Staff requests that the Board of County Commissioners grant the Solid Waste Management Department authority to pursue an amendment to rezone the land back to its original use as a community facility and to then purchase the Bembridge property. This provides a unique opportunity to more appropriately locate a permanent recycling facility on "county owned" land while reducing the capital cost associated with clearing, reclaiming and constructing a new facility. Transferring this property from EMS to Solid Waste fully compensates EMS for the original purchase while providing a fair price to Solid Waste customers. Proactively securing this site benefits the county in the following ways: The current recycling center site is leased from the Naples Airport Authority at a current cost of $44,627.52 per year and is located on an old landfill. The current term of the lease is from 10/01/2007 to 9/30/2010. A renewal of the lease is due on or before 4/01/2010. Based on prior communications, the existing leased property is not available for sale; therefore, any capital investment at that site would occur on non- County owned (leased) property and would require substantial and costly reclamation. (See chart below.) The Property would provide a centrally located permanent facility in the County. Relocation from leased property to County -owned property would fulfill the direction of the Board to increase recycling and provide best value solutions to all solid waste and recycling activities. Bembridge 5.11 Acres Naples Airport 3.5 +/- Acres Purchase Price & Closing Costs $ 450,000 Rent Per Year $ 44,627 Construction Cost (estimate) $1,300,000 Construction Cost (estimate) $1,300,000 Design/Permitting (estimate) $ 150,000 Design/Permitting (estimate) $ 175,000 Due Diligence $ 2,500 Partial Reclamation $1,500,000 Rezone $ 30,000 Lease Renewal 30 Yrs $5,037,237 Total $1,932,500 Total $8,056,864 This budget amendment only addresses the transfer in ownership of the property. Design, permitting and construction will occur as part of the FY 2010 budget. FISCAL IMPACT: A budget amendment is needed in the amount of $500,000 to transfer the funds from the Solid Waste Management Capital Fund 474 Reserve for Capital Contingencies, to Project 70013, Naples Recycling Center at Santa Barbara. These funds are available in the FY09 Capital Budget approved by the Board of County Commissioners on September 18, 2008. GROWTH MANAGEMENT IMPACT: The PUD modification and acquisition of the Bembridge Property is in compliance with the County's Growth Management Plan. The Solid Waste sub - elements of the Plan promote measures that will increase recycling in Collier County. This project also provides concurrency with the Solid Waste Management Department's AU1R Level of Service Standard. LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS: This item is legally sufficient for Board action. This is a regular item requiring a majority vote. - JBW RECOMMENDATIONS: Staff recommends that the Board of County Commissioners: 1) Grant the Solid Waste Management Department the authority to pursue an amendment to the Bembridge PUD Ordinance rezoning Tract "A" from Residential PUD to Community Facility PUD to be processed by CDES on an expedited or fast track basis; 2) Contingent upon the rezone approval, approve the transfer of the Property between EMS and SWMD; 3) Approve a budget amendment to transfer funds in the amount of $500,000 from the Collier County Solid Waste Management Fund (474) Reserve for Capital Contingencies to a new Project 70013, Naples Recycling Center at Santa Barbara. 4) Direct the County Manager or his designee to proceed with the transfer. PREPARED BY: Dayne Atkinson, Project Manager, Public Utilities Planning and Project Management p O co ACV O 00 V N L m .0 a_ —0 N U C0 N Q Co er County Community Development & Environmental Services Division February 5, 2009 zoning & Land Development Review Mr. Daniel D. Rodriguez, Director Collier County Solid Waste Management Department 3301 Tamiami Trail East, Building H, Third Floor Naples, FL 34112 Re: ZLTR-2009-AR- 1413 1, regarding the Bembridge ESC Community Facilities CFPUD and RPUD, located in Section 4, Township 50 South, Range 26 East, Collier County, Florida. Dear Mr. Rodriguez: In your zoning verification letter application dated January 9, 2009, you asked Collier County to provide information about whether the current zoning would allow a Recycling Center to be established on the remaining 5.11± acre tract. Further, you asked what requirements (steps) would be required to allow this use on the parcel. In support of your request you provided a copy of the applicable zoning ordinance, Ordinance Number 05 -46, aerial photos and location maps, Property Appraiser data, a copy of a boundary sketch and description of the 5.11 acre tract, as well as Florida Statute citations and aerial photos of the Marco Island Recycling Center. Ordinance Number 05 -46 does not specifically list a Recycle Facility as an allowable use. Therefore the PUD would need to be amended to add the use. According to the Land Development Code (LDC) this use would be considered an Essential Services use, as that type use is described in LDC Section 2.01.03. Section 2,01.03.0.1 includes the following description: Conditional uses. The following uses require approval pursuant to section 10.08.00 conditional uses:... . e. Government facilities, including where not identified as a permitted use in this section, safety service facilities such as including law ettforcement, fire, [and] emergency medical services, Section 2.01.03.6.3 also speaks to additional conditional use approvals that would be required in residential [zoning] districts. Since the portion of this PUD for which you seek this use is designated on the Master Plan for residential uses, this LDC section would be applicable as provided in LDC Section 2.02.02 "District nomenclature." Section 2.01.03.G.3 states the following: ..... In residential, agricultural, and estate zoned districts .... in addition to those essential services identlfed as conditional uses In section 2.01.03 G.1 above, the following essential services shall also be allowed as conditional uses: a. Regional parks and community parks; Page 1 of 2 1 2800 North Horseshoe Drive • Naples, FL 3004 • 239.252 -2400 0 Fax 239 - 643.6968 • www.colliergov.net Letter to Daniel D. Rodriguez Re ZLTR- 2009 -AR- 14131, 6embridge PUD February 5, 2009 b. Public parks and public library facilities; e. Safety service facilities; d. Other similar facilities, except as othenvise spec(fied herein. With a PUD zoned tract, you have the option to either seek a conditional use or amend the PUD. In most instances, it is preferred to amend the PUD rather than seek the conditional use approval. Both processes are subject to the same public hearing process requirements. However, an amended PUD would provide one legal document, the PUD Ordinance to govern the uses of the land within that project, rather than two separate documents --a PUD Ordinance and a Conditional Use Resolution. Additionally, since this PUD was amended in 2005, the county has adopted a different format for PUD zoned projects. An amendment would bring this project's PUD document into compliance with current regulations. Please note also that the 2008 PUD monitoring report does not appear to have been submitted. Staff cannot properly evaluate any amendment until that document has been submitted and reviewed. Should you wish to pursue an amendment to this PUD, please start the process by requesting a pre - application meeting. The forms for this pre - application meeting can be found on the Zoning and Development Review website at: http,// apps2, colliergov ,nettwebapps /vision/meetings /. Please be advised that the information presented in this verification letter is based on the LDC and /or the Growth Management Plan in effect as of this date. It is possible that subsequent amendment(s) to any of these documents could affect the validity of this verification letter. It is also possible that development of the subject property could be affected by other issues not addressed in this letter, such as, but not limited to, concurrency related to the provision of adequate public facilities, environmental impact, and other requirements of the Collier County Land Development Code or related ordinances. Should you require further information please do not hesitate to call me at (239) 252 -2931. Researched and prepared by: _�� &W41-It-i Kay D elem, AICP, Principal Planner Department of Zoning & Land Development Review Reviewed by: usan M. istenes, AICP, Director Department of Zoning & Land Development Review cc: Ray Bellows, Zoning Manager, Zoning and Land Development Review Peggy Jarrell, Addressing Section Maryann Devanas, PUD monitoring supervisor ZLTR- 2009 -AR- 14131, (correspondence file) Page 2 of 2 Motion to accept staffs recommendations — Approved 5/0 D. Continued from the May 26, 2009 and June 9, 2009 BCC Meeting. Recommend approval from the Board of County Commissioners to install navigational markers in Outer Clam Bay for USACE permit compliance and recommendation to move forward with permitting and installation. (Gary McAlpin, Coastal Zone Management) Motion to accept staffs recommendations — Approved 4/1 (Commissioner Henning opposed) E. Recommendation to conduct the Conservation Collier Annual Public Meeting to provide the Board of County Commissioners and public with an update on the programs past activities and to obtain direction on solicitation of proposals for the current acquisition cycle. (Alex Sulecki, Conservation Collier) Motion to suspend solicitations until January 2010 — Approved 5/0 F. Report to the Board concerning the results and impacts of the Local Vendor Preference Policy and recommendations regarding the use of location in the evaluation of CCNA contracts. (Steve Carnell, Purchasing Director) Motion to accept option #3 and direct purchasing to not extend fixed term contracts and to add other professionals to fixed term contracts — Approved 3/2 (Commissioner Coyle and Commissioner Halas opposed) Moved from Item #16A10 (Per Agenda Change Sheet) G. Recommendation that the Board of County Commissioners approves Change Order No. 1 to Contract #08 -5122 with Post, Buckley, Schuh & Jernigan for a Phase 2 cost of $1,303,397.38 to develop Watershed Management Plans required by the Growth Management Plan. Motion to continue to the September meeting — Approved 312 (Commissioner Henning and Commissioner Halas opposed) Moved from Item #16C3 (Per Agenda Change Sheet) I C) H. Recommendation to (1) grant the Solid Waste Management Department the authority to pursue an amendment to Ordinance 05 -46 to rezone Bembridge PUD Tract A from Residential PUD to Community Facility PUD to be processed by CDES on an expedited or fast track basis, (2) contingent upon the rezone approval, approve a transfer of 5.11 acres, Bembridge PUD Tract A, from the Collier County Emergency Management Services Department June 23, 2009 Page 7 (EMS) to the Solid Waste Management Department for the relocation of the Naples Recycling Center, at a cost not to exceed $450,000 and (3) approve a budget amendment to transfer funds in the amount of $500,000 fi-om the Collier County Solid Waste Management Fund (474), Reserve for Capital Contingencies, to a new Project No. 70013, Naples Recycling Center at Santa Barbara. Approved — 3/2 (Commissioner Henning and Commissioner Coyle opposed Moved from Item #16D5 (Per Agenda Change Sheet) I. Recommend approval from the Board of County Commissioners to provide peer review from Turrell -Hall and Associates, Humiston and Moore, Coastal Planning and Engineering and Dr. Dean from the University of Florida to the PBS &J Clam Bay Water Quality Monitoring, Data Collection, Circulation /Sediment Model and Natural Resource Characterization Study. The cost for this peer review is expected not to exceed $50,000. Motion to not approve — Approved 4/0 (Commissioner Halas absent) Moved from Item #16D6 (Per Agenda Change Sheet) J. Recommend approval from the Board of County Commissioners of a Work Order for Water Quality Monitoring, Data Collection, Circulation/Sediment Model and Natural Resource Characterization Study of the Clam Bay Estuary as outlined in the PBS &J proposal for a time and materials, not to exceed price of $265,012 and authorize the County Manager or his designee to execute the Work Order after approval by County Attorney. Motion to not approve — Denied 2/3 (Commissioner Coyle, Commissioner Halas and Commissioner Fiala opposed); Motion to spend $125,000 for initial phase of proposal and analyze all data — Approved 4/1 (Commissioner Henning opposed) 11. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON GENERAL TOPICS 12. COUNTY ATTORNEY'S REPORT A. This item continued from the May 26, 2009 BCC Meeting. Status Report to the Board of County Commissioners regarding the 2003 Agreement and promises made by the South Florida Water Management District with respect to the County's vacating approximately 287 miles of roads in the Southern Golden Gate Estates. June 23, 2009 Page 8 June 23, 2009 that the Board of County Commissioners approves change order number 1 to contract number 08 -5122 with Post, Buckley, and -- Schuh & Jernigan for a Phase Ii cost of $1,303,397.38 to develop Watershed Management Plans required by the Growth Management Plan. The item is being moved at the request of Commissioner The next item is to move Item 16G -- excuse me -- 160 to 1OH. It's a recommendation to, one, grant the Solid Waste Management Department the authority to pursue an amendment to Ordinance 05-46 to rezone Bembridge PUD, Tract A, from residential PUD to community facility PUD, to be processed by Community Development's Environmental Services on an expedited or fast -track basis; number two, contingent upon the rezone approval, approve a transfer of 5.11 acres, Bembridge PUD, Tract A, from the Collier County Emergency Management Services Department, EMS, to the Solid Waste Management Department for the relocation of the Naples Recycling Center at a cost not to exceed $450,000; and, three, to approve a budget amendment to transfer funds in the amount of $500,000 from the Collier County Solid Waste Management Fund (474) Reserve for Capital Contingencies, to a new project, which is number 70013, the Naples Recycling Center at Santa Barbara. This item is being moved at Commissioner Henning's request. a next item is to move Item 16D5 to 101. It's to recommend approval from the Board of County Commissioners to provide peer review -- peer review from Turrell, Hall & Associates, Humiston and Moore, Coastal Planning and Engineering, and Dr. Dean from the University of Florida to the PBS &J Clam Bay Water Quality Monitoring, Data Collection, and Circulation/Sediment Model and Natural Resource Characterization Study. The cost of this peer review is expected not to exceed $50,000. The item is being moved at the request of Commissioner Henning. The next item is to move Item 16D6 to l OJ. It's to recommend Page 3 Item #10H RECOMMENDATION TO (1) GRANT THE SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT THE AUTHORITY TO PURSUE AN AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE 2005 -46 TO REZONE BEMBRIDGE PUD TRACT A FROM RESIDENTIAL PUD TO COMMUNITY FACILITY PUD TO BE PROCESSED BY CDES ON AN EXPEDITED OR FAST TRACK BASIS; (2) CONTINGENT UPON REZONE APPROVAL, APPROVE A TRANSFER OF 5.11 ACRES, BEMBRIDGE PUD TRACT A, FROM THE COLLIER COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT (EMS) TO THE SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT FOR THE RELOCATION OF THE NAPLES RECYCLING CENTER AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED $450,000 AND (3) APPROVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO TRANSFER FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $500,000 FROM THE COLLIER COUNTY SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT FUND (474), RESERVE FOR CAPITAL CONTINGENCIES, TO A NEW PROJECT NO. 70013, NAPLES RECYCLING CENTER AT SANTA BARBARA — APPROVED MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am. Item 1 OH was previously 1 -3 (sic). It's a recommendation to grant Solid Waste Department the authority to pursue an amendment of ordinance 05 -462, rezone Bembridge PUD Tract A from residential PUD to community facility PUD to be processed by CDES in an expedited or fast -tract basis contingent upon rezone approval, and I'll stop there and let Mr. Rodriguez take you through the items. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Well, why don't we -- we've all read this, so why don't we just ask Commissioner Henning what he would like to talk about. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Is this item spending a half a million dollars? MR. RODRIGUEZ: Yes, Commissioner, if approved by the board. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay. So that's a different understanding than the Deputy County Manager has and relayed to me. So at least we all understand that you want to -- under this item you want on spend a half a million dollars. I guess my concern is, understand that you want to model this like the center on Marco Island. MR. ROGERS: For the record, Dan Rodriguez. I'm your Solid Waste Management Department Director. That's correct, Commissioner. COMMISSIONER HENNING: And what is the zoning on that center location on Marco Island? MR. RODRIGUEZ: I believe it's light industry. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Light industry. And that's -- I guess my concern is, I mean, I don't want to take down a process where I feel those type of uses belong in light industry or industrial. And I also feel that locating it just miles away from the existing, what you're going to be asking for is a new recycling center at the landfill. It's just not good public service. So I can't support this item, and I'm afraid that we're going to -- it's going to be a contentious issue during the rezoning process. Private sector can't put a recycling center in a PUD unless it's zoned industrial. To do this right, you would really want to zone this industrial. And that takes a Growth Management Plan change, and that's not being -- what's being proposed. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Commissioner Halas? COMMISSIONER HALAS: I've got some concerns because I think that it could be rezoned and it's -- I think this is in regards to the same community that cost us another $12 million when we moved the EOC center from that location to where it's presently located. And if I remember correctly, that was about a $12 million increase in costs. So I don't -- I've got some concerns about, what are we going to put there? We own that land, and I think this would be very beneficial for the citizens in that area or in Collier County, and it would get us out of the contract at the airport. So that's my feeling. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Doesn't this property back up to a shopping center about to be built? MR. RODRIGUEZ: That's correct. It's adjacent to the school, as well as the EMS. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay. And then there's the big shopping center there that it looks like they've already carved out, right? MR. RODRIGUEZ: That's correct. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay, very good. Do I hear a motion from anyone? COMMISSIONER HALAS: Motion for approval. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Second. Any further discussion? (No response.) CHAIRMAN FIALA: All those in favor? COMMISSIONER HALAS: Aye. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Aye. COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Aye. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Opposed. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay, that's a 3 -2. Item #15 STAFF AND COMMISSION GENERAL COMMUNICATIONS MR. OCHS: That takes us to staff and commission general communications. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Well, be- -- I need to jump in here before anything else. I'm still -- COMMISSIONER HENNING: You've got time. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Oh, I know that, but I just -- I wanted to go back to an item on the agenda, and that was the Bembridge thing, At 16C3, which became 10H, and it's been -- it's been a -- bothering me just a little bit about that. And I was wondering if it's possible that I could reconsider that and talk with staff before we vote on that. Would that be something we could do? MR. KLATZKOW: You could do a reconsideration at your next meeting. That would give you time to talk with staff in between. I mean, I would -- MS. FILSON: Not until July. MR. KLATZKOW: That's not until July. I understand. CHAIRMAN FIALA: So right now I can't do anything but -- MR. KLATZKOW: Well, you could, but you have time to do your reconsideration, so you can talk with staff first, and then if you want to do a motion, you can give the County Manager notice that you intend to bring it up at the next meeting, and then you can make your motion for reconsideration. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Yes. Commissioner? COMMISSIONER COLETTA: I'm sorry. I'm very, very curious to where you're going with it. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay. Thank you. I'll just come flat out with it. COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Please. CHAIRMAN FIALA: I know the recycling center on Marco Island, and quite frankly I've been there and -- I'm there every week. I go by there. It's a wonderful place. Never makes any noise, never any odor, never a problem. It's located in an industrial section, but in my opinion anyway, it could be located anyplace, that's why I asked during this conversation if the shopping center's backing up to it because I don't know of anything residential even in the area, to be honest with you, and I thought that it wouldn't be offensive at all. Word has gotten to me that it might be offensive to the people in the area. I don't know that. I don't know if they were contacted by it. or anything. I didn't think it would be because of watching the one on Marco Island. But I thought I needed to talk to staff about it before -- that's why I was going to -- COMMISSIONER COLETTA: If you want to bring it back for reconsideration, I'd be happy to second that motion for the next meeting. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Good, okay. COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Just so you don't have the uncertainty of what's happening and have to move it off to sometime in October. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay, that would be just great, then I -- next meeting is just perfect. In fact -- COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Now you'd have to put it to a vote. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Yes. So it would be -- I need to ask the other commissioners if it's all right if we could have a reconsideration at next meeting? It's just so I can talk to staff, yeah. And I can talk to you. Tell me, you voted -- you voted for -- against it. Why did you vote against it? COMMISSIONER COYLE: It's unclear to me what the total project costs are likely to be. The situation at the current location is that you're occupying, I think, five acres or so and you're saying $45,000 a year for five acres. Well, we're going to do something, we're going to build something, and we're going to go to 12 or 15 acres, and we're increasing our costs eight -- eight, okay. We're doubling the size pretty much. MR. DeLONY: With the buffer and other things, yes, sir. COMMISSIONER COYLE: And -- but the cost is going up, and I think -- MR. DeLONY: The lease cost. COMMISSIONER COYLE: $8 million -- or $5 million for ten years or -- MR. DeLONY: Right. It was 30 years. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Thirty years. MR. DeLONY: Yes, sir, for the lease costs, yes, sir. And that's what we're trying to avoid. COMMISSIONER COYLE: So that's -- whereas right now it's only one million three for the lease cost of the property we've got right now. MR. DeLONY: Right. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yeah. So what I'm looking at is one million three for property we've got right now. It's functioning as a recycling center. It's doing fine. It serves a segment of the population. It's fairly convenient, keeps people from driving all the way out east to get to the recycling center. So I'm asking myself, what is the benefit to the entire community to spend all these additional millions of dollars to do something different? What's wrong with it as it is right now? I don't see the return for the investment. It's a big investment, and I just don't see the return. I use it, I go there. It works fine. If s efficient. The people there are very helpful. I don't know what improvement you're going to make to the service to the individuals in Collier County by spending all this money and going somewhere else and building another facility. That's my only concern. CHAIRMAN FIALA: That's a legitimate thing, and I -- we didn't have enough conversation about this at all, and it's just been gnawing at me. You know how sometimes you have something gnawing at you? MR. DeLONY: If I may? CHAIRMAN FIALA: Yes, sir. MR. DeLONY: First of all, the point of the matter is is that we're not -- we're moving to a standard of service where we segregate retail and wholesale commensurate to what we have at Marco, which we don't have at that site we're discussing. And if you're saying that's adequate and that's where we need to stay, then I'll take that direction and move forward. When we did the integrated solid waste management strategy, we talked about this and increasing the breadth and the convenience of our recycling program to enhance participation. And one of those things that we discussed was locating additional recycling centers within the community, enhancing the services at those recycling centers. This is that second breakout from that strategy. The first was the Marco site, and I just believe I'm following guidance with regard to it with regard to this specific site, $500,000 for this location and this acreage and this convenience to the public, provided we can find that it is compatible to the land use that's already there. I mean, my view is the best -value solution, you know, in response to your guidance. If it's the intent of the board that it's not, then I'm back to the drawing boards, and we'll proceed as directed. But that's generally, you know, the drift line we've been on on this particular site and this issue, sir. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Well, if I could respond to that. My perception is that at least at that recycling site people are real happy with it. And in fact, I think you should have recycling sites conveniently located in other parts of the county because I think people will use them that way. And at 40- something- thousand dollars a year for a lease for that site, that's not a lot of money and -- but you're planning something significantly bigger and better. MR. DeLONY: Well, it's certainly more conducive to -- in terms of segregating some of the commercial activities, that is, pulling it out and sending it on. Like the Marco facility, for example, we're trying to make it convenient, clean, orderly, safe, and visually enhancing for folks coming to it. I mean, right now we're in an abandoned landfill area. You're right, we do the very best we can. And generally speaking, because of our staff, it's a great experience. I'm trying to bring that standard up a little bit in terms of quality of the facility we're providing as per -- you know, as per direction. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Well, it -- at the point we're at now from a financial standpoint, I'm looking more for functional than pretty. MR. DeLONY: I agree with you, sir. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Okay. And that facility works real fine. You've got paint, you go to here, you unload your paint. You go to cardboard here. You go to wood over there. You go to appliances over here. It's really very convenient. MR. DeLONY: And what we were trying to accomplish with the new facility was the same functionality. Some enhancements with regards to its convenience to the customer and the customer safety, better tolerance with regard to storm and storm vulnerability. Those are just temporary buildings and some concerns about that. But we'll -- I can address all those operationally. And the direction of the County Manager has to date to get out of our leased facilities where it's possible, where it makes sense, we can enhance functionality, enhance the ability to pay, move out of leased facilities into county -owned facilities. This was, I thought, an excellent opportunity because of its location. Problematic was only in, of course, beyond your -- you know, taking your guidance and moving that to approval for the land was the use concern I saw in terms of feathering this program. Now, we can bite off as many chunks of this integrated solid waste management strategy you all have approved as we'll have ability to pay. And I agree with you that we're at that point. But this, I thought, was a logical next step in getting those locations identified, and then over the next couple or few years enhancing them into our neighborhoods. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Well, I -- you know, you're not enhancing anything into a neighborhood anywhere near where that one is located. MR. DeLONY: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER COYLE: You see, that's the problem. You're taking it out of the neighborhood. MR. DeLONY: Right. COMMISSIONER COYLE: And what you're -- what will happen then is the people who want to get rid of all this stuff will be dumping it throughout East Naples and everyplace else for pickup at the curbside, which is going to require additional transportation, and they're going to have to truck it further distances and things of that nature. MR. DeLONY: Absolutely true with any location we choose different than the one we have now. You're actually going to displace some and you're going to create new ones. And there was an offset. I just felt that in this particular case, given the conditions at the airport, leased facility, some concerns that -- last time we were up for a lease -- I don't know if you remember this -- they voted 3 -2 for us to get the lease. I mean, they were -- I don't guess they view us as a valued tenant. And I know we can influence that through whatever. But my point was, it was just, in my view, the next logical step. And in putting these out in the neighborhoods, we need to put one in North Naples. We need to put one out in the eastern part of Collier County in District 5. We want to spread this out for the convenience you just spoke to. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Well, what I would suggest to you then in this case, rather than spending a million or more dollars to move that to a different facility, leave it there, take the money that you were going to spend there and create one in another place, another community, and give those people in that community a greater convenience. MR. DeLONY: Well, we actually thought that we were doing that by moving it into East Naples into -- along Santa Barbara. But if this is not something you want me to do, we can look at other alternatives with regard to it. As we were spoke -- we -- it's been several years ago we did this, but we can update you again, was that we thought in the instate we'd have as many as six or seven of these in the county as we move toward build -out. And the earlier we can make decisions about land use and purchasing of land or leasing of land, if that's the direction you want me to take, ultimately, that will be the best value in terms of cost. But, again, it was just in my view a logical extension of moving forward in our solid waste program, moving these convenience centers into different areas of the county and service centers. We don't mean to disadvantage or disenfranchise the good folks that already use our current facility. I use that facility and I -- you know, and I travel to do it, too. Moving it into the landfill is problematic. You get confu- -- you get in there, you've got traffic, you've got trucks moving. It's just an unsafe situation. COMMISSIONER COYLE: I always dump it at the gate at night. MR. DeLONY: Thank you very much. Now we know who to send the -- but, again, sir. It's a matter of just moving though , that strategy. If we can't get the land use and it's not something you want us to do, we'll go out and try to figure out another way to get after this. COMMISSIONER COYLE: With the current economic circumstances, I'd rather see you march ahead instead of mark time for a little bit -- MR. DeLONY: And that's our intent. Actually that's our intent, sir. You know, we're going to get the land, get the land use, and then based on financial cost containment and revenue - centric operations, you know, we're going to -- we're going to move that into that. We're not going to shut one down till we get one built. I don't think -- I don't think I talked to you about the sequencing. CHAIRMAN FIALA: See, we didn't know -- as you can see now, we really did need some -- MR. DeLONY: Yeah, I -- CHAIRMAN FIALA: -- help -- MR. DeLONY: And I apologize for not making sure that was clear in the executive summary. We have a lease, and we intend to stay there until we get this one built. We would not stand down and then wait and then get another one. We got to time it in terms of convenience for the customer, ability to pay, and just do the right thing. The situation will be -- and we had a 3 -2 vote on this. If I have to do a rezone -- which I have yet to determine through the County Attorney's Office and my staff and CDES whether I'll need a rezone and whether this is an allowed use of the PUD. There's still some debate about it. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Where -- MR. DeLONY: At the Bembridge site -- and I don't have four votes, we're through. COMMISSIONER COYLE: Forget that. MR. DeLONY: We're through, because I'll need four votes for the rezone. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Let me call on Commissioner Henning here. MR. DeLONY: Yes, sir -- yes, ma'am. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah, let's go to the County Manager's report. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Well, did we -- so what can we do now? Can I just ask right this minute that we can bring it back for discussion at the next meeting, or I mean -- MR. KLATZKOW: Yeah, if that's the will of the board, Mr. DeLony can bring it back at the next meeting. MR. DeLONY: Absolutely. In fact, I'm recommending we bring it back in September because I think we're going to have less than four -- three commissioners -- we have only three commissioners in July. So if -- there's no hurry here. We own the land. I've got a lease. You know, there's really no time. The time is on us. It would be my recommendations, County Attorney, if that's okay with you -- MR. KLATZKOW: It makes -- CHAIRMAN FIALA: We'll have four commissioners here in July I think, aren't we? MR. DeLONY: I heard that we were going to have less than -- less than five. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Well, I'm going to be here. MR. OCHS: That was going to be one of my questions. MR. DeLONY: I'm sorry, Leo, I jumped -- COMMISSIONER COLETTA: They can attend by phone? MR. DeLONY: But I'd like to do it in September, would be fine with me, ma'am, if it's okay with you. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay. Thank you. So now, did I do everything legally -- MR. KLATZKOW : You're fine. CHAIRMAN FIALA: -- to bring it back? MR. KLATZKOW: Mr. DeLony's going to bring this back. MR. DeLONY: I'll take no action till I bring it back to the Board of County Commissioners in September. We'll have a full discussion and vetting at that time. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Thank you -- thank you very much. MR. DeLONY: Yes, ma'am. CHAIRMAN FIALA: I really appreciate that. MR. DeLONY: Yes, ma`am. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay. Now to the County Attorney's report -- I mean the County Manager's report. MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am. Following up on what we just talked about, I lust want to get a head count for the meeting in July. I had heard from your office supervisor there may only be three members here present for the July 28th meeting. Is that accurate or --