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Naples, Florida, April 8, 1980
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County Commissioners in
and for the County of Collier, and also acting as the Governing Board(s)
of such special districts as have been created according to law and
having conducted business herein, met on this date a 2:34 P.M. in
Conference Session in Building "F" of the Courthouse Complex with the
following members present:
CHAIRMAN: Clifford Henzel
VICE-CHAIRMAN: Thomas P. Archer
John A. Pistor
C. R. "Russ" Wimer
David C. Brown
ALSO PRESENT: C. William Norman, County Manger; Danny Crew,
Planning Director; Clifford Barksdale, Public Works Administrator/
Engineer; Irving Berzon, Utilities Division Director; and, Edna
Brenneman, Deputy Clerk.
AGENDA
1. Status Report re provision of facilities and
services to meet present and future requirements
in the Bonita Shores/Little Hickory Shores, and
other North Naples areas, by Pl^nning and Engineer-
ing staffs (Continued from April 1, 1980).
STATUS REPORT RE PROVISION OF FACILITIES AND SERVICES IN BONITA SHORES/
LITTLE HICKORY SHORES AREA (CONTINUED FROM 4/1/80)
Pursuant to discussion held during Workshop Session on April 1, 1980,
Commissioner Archer recalled that he had asked for a report on what it
would take to provide services in the Bonita -Shores/Little Hickory Shores
area, and other North Naples areas. when the contemplated 600-700 units
are constructed within the next eighteen months.
Planning Director Danny Crew noted that the question was raised as
to whether or not the subject condominium units would provide the tax
base to pay for the services which will be received. He said that he has
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determined, by using that part of last year's budget which is funded by
ad valorem taxes, dividing that figure by the population, the County spends
approximately $150 per person from the r.J valorem budget County-wide. He
said that it is estimated that condominium owners in buildings such as
La Her and Caxambas will pay into ad valorem taxes approximately $250
and get back $150, whereas single-family home owners receive $150 and pay
in only $110. Although the figures must be "taken with a grain of salt",
said Dr. Crew, they suggest that single-family homeowners do not pay for
themselves, whereas multi-family building homeowners do, as a general rule.
Commissioner Archer commented that, although the figures recited by
Dr. Crew are interesting, his main concern is whether or not, in the
event the proposed 600 condominium units are built, sewer, water, roads,
fire service, police protection, and the like can be provided without
jeopardizing the current owners in the area. Dr. Crew observed that part
of the answer is a policy decision to be made by the Board regarding the
allocation of funds, and the like; however, he reiterated, multi-family
residence developments bring t~e County more in ad valorem taxes than what
the County provides in services to such developments.
Chairman Wenzel, referring to the fact that facilities have to be
expanded to meet the growth rp.quirements, voiced his concern that the
people now living 1n the growing areas have to pay for these expansions
and that until "growth will pay 100% for its growth, we're always going to
be stuck - everyone of us".
Commissioner Archer renewed his request for a response to the question
of whether or not the County's plans for services parallel development
plans and whether or not developers ,will pay their share of the necessary
expansion costs.
Public Works Administrator/Engineer Clifford Barksdale reported on
the plans for roads in the particular area of the six developments which
were discussed the previous week, providing the Board with the existing
traffic count, projected additional trips per day, and concluded that the
subject developments' impact on the specific roads will not be drastic at
this time. further, said Mr. Barksdale, four of the six developers are
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being required to provide turn lanes off roads which serve them which
will further increase the carrying capacity of the roadways, and thus. to
some extent, the developers are paying a share by providing such turn
lanes, overlaying the roads, and the like. Be said that this 'is the developer's
impact fee, or contribution, on the road system and that he knows of no other
approach to take unless it would be to arrive at a total impact on all
required services and then distribute the cost.
Commissioner Archer brought up the possibility of establishing HST
units within the County for the provision of services, which he noted has
been discussed previously, and suggested that serious consideration be given
this approach. Chairman Wenzel suggested that maybe the County is approach-
ing the problem "backwards" in that approval of a development should be
conditioned upon the provision of improvements, citing Marco Island as an
example wherein SR 951 should have been four-laned since the developers
"knew what was comi ng". Dr. Crew expressed agreement with the Chai rman
with the comment that neither Marco Island nor Golden Gate would be
approved today.
Commissioner 8rown voiced the viewpoint ~hat new people coming into
the area bring"with them prosperity, new ideas, energy, and the like,
and said that growth paying for growth is a myth.
Responding to Commissioners Wimer and Archer, Dr. Crew said that
the County is planning and implementing its plan for the ruture. Regarding
projected growth for the future, Dr. Crew predicted that the County will
probably not be growing at the same rate as it is now and that, in his
opinion, he does not believe that the population will be 150,000 at the
turn of the century, as opposed to the predicted 250,000 as suggested
in an earlier study.
There being no further business to come before the Board in Workshop
Session, the meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair - Time: 2:55 P.M.
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