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LET IT BE nEMEMßERED, thðt~th~ 8o~rd of County COMMisslonera In
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and for the County of Colli~r met on thii ð^te at ~s30 r.M. in
Conference Session in Auilàing "F" of the.Courthouso Conplex with th.
following memb~r3 presents
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C"Arn~^N1 John A. Pistor
Clifford Wenzel
Mary-Fr~nc~s Kruse
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ALSO PRESENT: C. William ~ormðn, County ~ðn~ger; Gr~ce Sp~ulðing,
Ac1ministr!'ltive ".icJ~ to the r,01lrð; !)eputy Chicf ~ðy:nonñ r~rn~tt,
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Sheriff's DflpDrtnent¡ an(l·, .EGn.... Brcnnom!ln, D~puty Cll3rk.
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. 1. Report 00 fin~ings ~nd first drnft outline by Poli~zi/ncery re
Governn~nt r.xp~nsion rrogr~n.
RF.PO!1T OF rI~~I:-rC!ì J\"1t' FTnST C~"FT OUTL'tl~r t'y "0L17.::t/llr;ro:r:y m:
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CtJ5'HOIJ ':'0 I?r. !~ELI1 F0l[.(')\·;D'('; R1;t;:r.tl"'1" ')r:' 'i1J13~:::ntlr:':-"'1" fH~f'(H1"('
County ~An~gcr C. WilJi~m Vor~~n pref~eEd the pr~5~nt~tion of th9
neport of Findings by intr01uclng the verlou5 m~nb~rs of th~ Polizzi/
"eery t~éI~ ,,'ho hëlvc bc!?n ...:orkin<J on the r.ollf('!r çovt:!rnmcnt Cl'!ntar
Exp~n£ion ProjAct; nAm~ly, Bill ~cNÐal ~nd ~"ryl P~il~3, who h~yc hn~n
producing ngst of the m8tcrial found in the noport; nn~, th~ir
supnriors, Nick Polizzi nnð Vie CohQn, the princip~lR oversQcing the
project.
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r1r. ~·c!·'("r.l rrovfl'1C'C' thr f'ol'lr'l' ",lth " r:hrono] O<J {t'!1", Oil':' {n~ Or. thn
st~ps \-Ihfell hr,v., h"t:'n tt' .:~n to ~nt:c on tho rrojl'ct bC'gfnnlng w1t.h
~"nunry ~~I 10~1 whir:h W~R th~ projcct-l~unchin~ d~tc. He 0"16 ~t thnt
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nLlir~s dlRt:r1hÍJtc~ r-:"qu~ntinCJ' vlldous fnfofM1'tion with r<Hprd to
!'!tr.ffing or~r..tion¡¡, Hork-fJo\:, pêlp.1r-floIT, intp.r-rdttionGhip3 \-lith
oth~r c'ap'\rt/l1C'ntn, ûn~ thl'! '-11:,-,. '·'hr.n I:ho qtl(>ationno!lir!!~ Wp.rA
rOMpletê~ ~nd cJnrffic~, 3p~C~ projections wera gdnorfltod hêlsp.d upon
st"ln:1<'\rd sp"(,:'~s "'ihich SN'n0å to he feir1y Co:nnnn throuryhollt th1! COllnty,
naicl ~~r. '·c?-'ep.l, c?J.ling ¡,ttcntion to thl'lt portion of t.hl] ~ocumpnt
intitled prclininsry rln~ings - ~pl'lce Pe~~s ~nLl1Y5is, sub-titled ~pnc~
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fJt<>nðélrd5 ~Ui~l'd in~s. Ho sðicl thê't th~ fI,nlllysis is not inclusive of
~l1 of the spl'lce ty~ea which wi]l u\tim~taly h~ dispJlIyed ~s stðndnrds,
~~ðing th~t copies of the ~nÐly~is h~V9 been ~istribut,d to st~ff
mcnhùrs for th~ir r~vieH ~nð intêrprotation of whether the consu]~~ntsl
intarpretati0n of. thc informðtion provided in tho questionnair~s WðS
correct.
Mr. r~c~ee1 continuc(J hy Ðt~ting thc!lt the teélm is ~t 0'1 point now
whgre sp~ce ne~ås for those Dre~s not covp.rp.~ pi~ heing f.or~u1~t~ð,
sur:h liS Court neporter, ~uhlic "·or:<s J;ivision, t'uhlic S!!,fety, MUSAUr:1,
IItilitics, I:'~t<'l Processing, i'nd BCC offices. "(pin, rt:'fcrring to the
suhject do,:uMr:>nt, ~~r. '~c"Jcl"l R"ir1 thnt t"p.re is êI section on tIlE: t-I'!l'dc
progr~r:1 for th~ jë:11 \lhich is the most deti'ile~ of. ;.J1 of the informël-
tion ~t hrn~ ðn~ is feprescntativ~ of ,~~t is hopa~ wi]1 b~ ~~hiAvad
for th~ rQmêlin~er of tho Program schodule~ to be conplet~d Dnò suh-
mitted hy the ~pril ~~te r.stDblish~ð for the pres~nt~tion of thA finðl
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l1e slIid that t;þa inf.ormation on j.!'\i1s 18 v~ry ~p.scdptlve of
the operQtions, th~ intant, ~nd the organ!~ation that should be
achieved in a program for the jnl1 f~cillty.
Adðr~ssing the j~il facility portion of. ~hp. report, Chairman
pistor inquired i£ nil of .the various ~re~G, such ~s space for the
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dir~ctor of education, lihr~ry, clas~roo~s~ recreation y~rð, anð tho
like, é're requirenents. ~~r. Mc:Neel replie.ð that FederAl ~t!'lnðl'rds werp.
used such as thos~ us~ð in court cas~s to d~termine the adequÐcy of
j~ils. He said thðt they hðve been enhAncød to a cert~ln ~ogre~
b~CÐuse, In projccting for the future, th~rG will h~ ch~ngos in tho
criminal justlc~ syst~n. He pointen out th~t none of the projections
ðre b~ing "ðict~tcd" to the Boar~ but being provid~d as a reFort of the
findings and determinðtion of nccn r~lating to those types of guide-
'lines, particularly the jail, and st~ndpr~s, as wo]l ~s requirements
that "re nationall¥·pcceptnd.
comr.dssionnr "~('nz~l s'1id thot he could sce some of the it~ms boln')
incorporateå when Feð~ral funds are being uscå, but qu~stioned if there
is é] legðl WAY "to èo things on our 0\>'0" using "our o~.'n flln(1s" c!\nc.1 no!,
accepting aid or gr~nts. Deputy Chief. ~arnett cy.plaincõ thDt no
remo~'eling or cons·trllction of jnils can be none cxc~pt lJmler "their"
stnndards. To responc'l to the qllp.stion, ','r. ß.dles infor1~cè the P.oarrl
th2\t éI brand ne\'/' j;d 1 Cé1n bo bull t to the County' s o~:n r;p('ci flct'tionß,
getting a Fcderal suit élnd éI nnndnte the nay it is opened, resultln~ in
'having to cOMply in the event the suit is lo~t in rr.~erÐI r.ourt.
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whnt would happen in providing (or n ne,,' j;til f.acility if linder' Federðl
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~·r. ~,'or''I,''n ·S\1IJ<J0St'.wl th<1t, pf'\·t'I1,'r~, tho propo~~ð l1~n;H~lu", \'10U'(~
~.~,?t I"" ~s 'much "\. r0q\J1r"MC'nt if', AwitrlhlF out.floor rf1<"r""tion.,l t'lr",,!] ,'Ire
provi(1ud. Deputy r..unp.tt. I';xpl~Jne~ thl'\t /'!n (!:<~rc1ßc p.\rN' '~I"'lIt h~
provic1crl ~nd \Jsinl) .'In inn}{1c.' lJynnaoiu", innt"'c,1 or ..'n outr;i,1c CI'C'1l1ty
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~ust he rrovJ~a~ ou~si~e.
COMMission~r 1(rllSI" inquirer! if. "'nyon" hAS C:!l.'ll'\'!ngp.c! the Fe~pr",j
GovernMont on tho 10111,,10 concopt. of thp. I"lT'ount of rC'JII'Pltiona boin/)
<:ppJ iN~ to loc~' tJ0·'C'rnr.t~nt.s \-/:dch thoy (loc:",'. govcrnr.tcnts) h~"(> to
funð. Mr. Nor~~n rcsFon~eð by stÐtinlJ th~t it is not the Fed~rðj
r.rur~l·u,=rAcy hut, ré'th('r, t.he courts, \.¡ith ~~ruty F.'.:>rnett ",~ding th~t
jnils ar~ being closed ev~ry d~y un~er court M"'nð~ta. ~r. ~c~enl snid
th~t thero is nothin~ heing Impos~~ I"t tl1is point hut, to huild
.,:nything less th-'tn Feder;¡J. st.:'1n<1ñri!, \-IOUle' he ëI ð('ficit to th2 r.ounty.
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t'iscu!õ~don continl1~( \oIith r-'r. r:c~!e.;;ol furth0r ."'~sê:ribing th~ hl.'lsic
npproDch b~ing t~ken with r~~~rd to SP~CQ requirements h~sc1 on Gp~CC
criteria \!hich h;:¡s been est<-bJ.i!';htJC' \·;ithout i'ny r(>(:ognition as to
wh~ther or no the spøce exists which he 5aid will proyl~e a "norM" to
comp~re cxil'ltin<] sp;.c~ "'(]C'\Ì"\s';, incll1~ing \olhé\t sP""cc CDn be renovl'Ited,
wh~~ spÐce c:ðn be left ,'IS is, ~nd the like.
~'r. !o'or;"!,'n ob$erven th?t r:he finfin<J~ ~r(' prer:icllteñ on \-:hê'\t is
fait will be neeðe~ ~t th~ pn~ of fiv~ y~prs, Cn~ thin9 th~t is
nissin(] from tho tahles, s",i~ Mr. vorn;.n, i~ thp c:urrent ßtatus
InFormntion which hB sé\id must be "plu~~e~ in" In or~~r to ñi<'jcst th~
r0port for cOMrarison purposes. ~r. ~c~cc1 s~ld that 1'1 rerort l'In~
",n"lysis of the current sr,.,CfO being occupieð \/111 h., provir1I)~. lYe s()id
th~t sovern1 c:ritic:~l ()rp~s fot cpDce ne~fs hAve heen i~cnti£ie~, as
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well ðS ~ntlcipatp.~ sp~ce n~cðs·within th~ projected five-yeor pr09rð~.
He ~ddad th~t c~o five-ye~r pro9r~M i9 being use~ ðS ð basis fQr
I1rchItecturl'll t~"tli9n for the first con!1truction effort, Ob3p.rvin<J that
the ~rchitect will he roquired to ·m~ster plan" baseð on threo phases -
the five, ten and fifteen-yenr progrnm
~h~rn~n r!stor Gug0~5ted th~t, whil~ the five-yc~r pr09ra~ is
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bftin9 considere~, SOMe thou~ht shou1d be givcn to th~ ncp.~s in fifteen
ye~rs ~nd, pp.rh~pA, iMplementing it nIl at on~ time.
In conclusion, Mr. ~lct-Jeel saiò that his prescnt.ntion this df.ltp. ,",tiS
in the' form of an 'interil7l report to let the ROi'lrd I<no\ol "\o/h'~re ".~ stanc'!
and "~ere we are goin~ frQm horn" and to provi~e the ro~rcl with the
opportunity to deternine "if we ùrc on the rilJht track". /-1p. s<.'Iid thë\t
the ulti~ate result will be a report to the Eoar~ which, upon
acccpt~nce hy th~ Po~rd, will becoM~ (II progr~m under which tho
architect will be Gëquired to design the Fxp~nsion projp.ct.
Fo 11 o\1i nC] en éI i rln.? n Pi s to r 's sucJg es t ion th<'\ t nn Ð(~d i t ion" 1 ":od:$hop
Session be held f.or EO.:1rd input, "'r. Normé'n s"ið tho'lt hp. would like to
see the report in a nore r~fineð form before the Conmissioners ~~ke
their cornnents. nc said that, basically, the tep~ is on schedule as
hr DS he can judge, coml':'lent.ing thê'lt they ar~ very conscientious ahout
the schedule, which he, personally, øppreciøtes,
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