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BCC Minutes 07/23/1981 W ~" ... . ,N~plea, Florldn, July 23, 1981 ~ET11("~¡ REMr.MBERtD, that the Board of County Commis.ioners in end tor the County of CollIer, and alao acting as the gov~rning board(s) of such special districts as have been created according to law and havin9 conducted business hereIn, m@t on this dato at 9100 ^.M. in Budget Review Workshop in Bul1dln9 -F- of th~ Courthouse Complex with the following members presents CH"IRMA.Ns VIce CIIA IRMAth John ^. piator Cll Hord \o/anzel C.R. -Rusa- wJmer Mary-Francos Kruse O"v id C. Drown "LSO PRESENTI William J. Reagan, Clerk I Harold L. lIall, Chief Doputy Clerk/Fiscal Officer; D~rlcne Dðvidson nnd Elinor Skinner (1130 P.~.), Deputy Clerks, Brent Perkins, Budgot "n~lyst c. William Norman, County "'ðnager(9:-15 A.M.), Henry fUll, Manllgor.H,'nt ^nalyst(9145 A.M.), and, appropriate Divi6ion/Department Heads and memborß of staff lIGEUD" I. Circuit Court Clork (20-010) II. County Court Clork (20-020) II I. C lor k tot h It no ðf d ( 02 - 010 ) IV. C.J.I.G.(21-010) V. Circuit Court/Judge Carlton(20-040) VI. Circuit Court/Judge Cnrlton/Crtrm. Op~rðtlon8 (20-041) VII. Circuit Court/Judgo Drousseau (20-050) VIII. County Court/Judge Trottia (22-010) IX. County Court/Jud~e Hayes (22-020) X. States "ttorney (24-010) Page 1 MIOK 062 PACE 408 --------------- -------------. --- _______--.#__.a....-_________________ ... . July 23, 1981 ·&O~~ 062 PAc£409 XI. Public Defender (25-010) XII. EMS (40-020) XIII. Animal Control (73-010) XIV. Medical EXÐminor (42-010) XV. Isle of Capri Fire Department (28-020) XVI. Golden Gate rlre Department (2e-03~) XVII. Ochop.. rire Department (2~-040j XVIII. Helicopter (99-040) XIX. Fire Control District ,l (28-010) XX. Henderson Creek Fire Control DistrJct (28-020) XXI. Civil Dp.!onse (38-0l0) XXII. Public Sl'Ifety (26-010) XXIII. Community Devolopmont (10-010) XIV. Planning (11-010) XXV. Block Grant (10-040) XXVI. Environmental Conaultant (10-020) XXVII. Zoning (12-010) (12-020) XXVIII. Agriculturo (72-010) XXIX. Heðlth Department (72-010) xxx. C.H.S.I. (77-0.30) RE~^RKS FROM FISCAL OFPICER HAROLD HALL Fiscal Officor flÐrold 11,,11 stated thðt he is proposing changea in certain dep~rtment numbers which will ~ore accurately reflect departIQ.nt responsibility. fie said that this will he cOIQpleted and presonted to the Board prior to the public he~ring on the proposed Page 2 " , - ----- --------- - -- ------------ -- -. ......- ,.~ .: . . ~-~~----~----------------------- July 23, 1981 budget. Mr. Hall reterrad to the Property Appraisor and Tax Collector units and noted that they will be moved over to General Government. He added that certain areas presently under the Clerk will also be more clearly defined so as to reflect that he is only responsible for the Circuit Court/Clerk, County Court/Clerk, and, the Clerk to the Board units. CIRCUIT COURT CLERK BUDGET (20-010) - TENTATIVELY APPROVED IN THE AMOUNT OF $285,007 In answer to Commissioner Kruso's query regarding the Circuit Court Clerk budget, Clerk Reagan explained that lino item 490, (C.;¡~).~,{ssionß l1nd/or fecs - clerks), represents certain servIces that this office performs for different functions for which rees are paid back to-tho Board. He noted that the Witness Assistance Program hos experIenced a significant decrease and, in response to Commissioner Wenzol, ho saId that line item 349, (Contractual Serviccs), has also becn reduccd. He explained th~t this ,is due to the use of a new information proccGsor for hand11n9 land records, etc. rothcr th^n contractIng that work. Clerk Reagðn Baid that hc expects to save approximately $20,000 per year by uBln9 this new syatem. The Commissioners jointly expressed pleasure that the Bubj~ct budget only reflects an over~ll At increase and Commissioner Wenzel moved, seconded by Commissioner Kruse and carried unanimously, that the Circuit Court Clerk budget (20-010) be tentatively approved in the amount of $285,007. ~ò~K' 062 PACE 410 Pag e 3 ------- --.------r----- ------ - - - ---- . . . ._------------.------- ---------- 'Btå7 062 PACE ~lf July 23, 1981 . . COUNTY COUR~ CLERK BUDGET (20-020) - TENTATIVELY "PPROVED IN THE AMOUNT OF $G85,890 Clerk Reagan stated that the County Court Clerk Budget (20-020) represents an overall increaae of-12' over last year. Commissioner Wimer mov~d, seconded by Commissionor Brown and carried unanimously, that tho County Court Clerk budget (20-020) be tentatively approved in the amount of $685,890. CLERK TO THE BOARD BUDGET (02-0l0) - TENTATIVELY APPROVED IN THE AMOUNT OF $7,1~,1i9l Clerk Reagan statod that the Clerk to the Board budget (02-0l0) reproRent& an overall increase of 13\ over last year. He said that tho data procossing costs for the next'year have increased a tremendous degree over last year, adding that he has not been able to dotermine the reasons thus far, however, if satisfactory answers are not forthcoming, ha intends to como back to tho Board with some 8tr~ng recommendations. Thoro was a lengthy discussion regarding the Data proceøsing Department and the posßibil1ty of an in"daquat.e system for charging having been established in the earlIer years of service, the fllct that the Clerk'. Office c~nnot continue to pay such hIgh chargos in the future, as explainod by Clerk Reagan, who outlined ~hQ possibility of his purchasing separate data processlnq equipment for his Office's needs as on nlternðtiv~1 the possibility of the present data proceasing equipment not bolng used to its c~pabilitlo8 In the future, and, the tact that the current system hða the c8pðbilities to runction adequately tor the C1ork'a use if cortain problems are worked out Page 4 .-------------------------------- · . --------------------------------- July 23, 19tH satlsfectorily. ^lao di8CUS80d briefly was the C.J.I.G.(Criminal Justice Information System), Clerk Reagan's statements regardIng the noed to follow through with the Pive-Year Plan and s~parðte thð C.J.I.S. from Datð Processing, rosulting concerns regardin9 control if thi8 separation should take place, and, Clerk Reagan's offor to take the responsibility of the C.J.I.S. when the separation is initiðted. Fiscal OHIcor HnrQld Hall added that it is costing far too much for data ~rocessin9 servicos. CommiDoioner Wimer stated that he intends to rely solely on Dr. Thomas' rocommendations before voting favorably on any furthcr issucs that come before him regarding tho use of computers of 8ny kInd. He said that he believes that one parson with an overðll knowledge and ð degree of expertIse In this fle1d needs to mako the dpcisIons. He said that, at this time, he Is looking to Dr. Thomas for the overall direction, however, if Clerk Reagan or Mr. Hall wants tho responsibility, he would agrce to consldor this. Clerk Roa~ðn remarked that, whilo hn agroes with tho philoaphy of one porDon 1n charge, he takes issuo with certðIn stntcments that Dr. Thomas has mðdo 1n regards to data processIng for Collier County. The discussion continued includJng alternatIves to using tho County's dota processing system, the high costs as~oclðtod with some alternativesl contracting out data procosslng work vcrsus using in-house syotem. and, the tact that, although the prescnt computer system has grown, it does seem to be lacking controls, as alluded to by ChairMan Plstor, who added that Dr. Thoma& did poInt out that the County has computors in ..rvlcD that ~r. not compatible. Clerk Roagan 1 ...... ". Page 5 ~ 062 P~Cf ~12 -- --- - --- - --- - - -- - ----....- - --- -- -- - ---. , . . . ------------------------------.--- . _. - . July 23, 1991 ~~~ 062 PAcE~13 asked if Dr. Thomas haft boen hired to mðko specific recommondation. to the Board rogllrðing the use of Qðta Proceasin9 functions? Chairman pistor repliod nogatively and Commissioner Wimer added that the final selection has not beon decided at this time, however, he 18 leanin9 towards Dr. Thomas. He referrad to her background and past projects that she has completed for the County anð said that he has a groat deal of confidonce in her. Fiscal OffIcer Hall stated that there ie a real need for one contr~l coordinatIon spot for all public funded agencieo regarding ðata processing functIons. He added that it is not ð matter of having one person controlling d~tð processing, it io a matter of having tho one parson act an the central coordinator who can consider , ~ll the factoro relating to the data processing functions for the variouo agencics or users invo1vÐd in order that the governing body can understðnd what they h~ve to deal with ðnd what the nceds are that require addressing. Chðlrmðn Pistor said that thero will bo a proposal coming before the ~oðrd for consideration within a few weeks that will help the situation. Tho discussion continued, including problems related to the method in whict dðta proccssing was handled in the past, aß explained by Commlssionar Wimcrl the Dðta Procossing Com~lttee's efforts to ~ake appropriate recommendations to the Board in An effort to make the system work betterl and, the results of extensive research efforts in responso to direction from the Clerk rog~rding what tho datft procesoing problems cre and how to solve them, as explðined by Mr. Hall. Mr. Hall sðid that it has been ascertained thðt the present datA processing system w~s w~ll suited to the neeðs of tho Board of County PAc::J e f5 . -- - - -- - - - _...- -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - --- ,'c ;' " . ~ '.¡ -------- --------------------------"- July 23, 1981 Commisslonors whon it W~8 purchoDod and that it atill i8. Ho said that some of tho programs are not written as well as they should be, however, that i8 understandablo aD they woro the first programs for Iftost of those people. Commisnioner "l1mor expreaeed conccrn about the fllct that so mllny individual computorn aro being purchascd and that no ono Js approaching tho Board and saying that nll of these are going to work together ncxt year or Ðven fivc years down the ro~d. Ho said that he understands that more officeD in the County intend to buy additional computers lInd he clarified the fact that, if ð requost comes b~fore him, he does not intend to voto to ðpprove any morn computers until he has been told t~a~ thoy will illl be compatible. This was discussed briefly, during which Clerk Roagan referred to Dr. Thom.!ls' r~marko to tho naa rd .!I few days ago and her rocommondation thnt they not purchnse nnything unless it is compatible to something thRt is going to be purchðBcd five years from now. He said that no one knows what the nceds will be for Collier County five ycars from now. He rcferrd to the chðnglng world of technology related to computers and he said that it 15 impossible to choOSÐ a specific brand nome as the answer to the County's nceds five years from now. Clerk Roagan stated that any manufðcturer will tell tho 'Bollrd that all brands inter!lIce. Mr. Ra<'l9ðn stater'! that he wllnts the 8~ðrd to und~rstand th~t the Clerk's functions depand on datð procoÐsing ðnd unless tho sorvice improves, he will hav~ to do somothlng. Upon conclusion of tho discussion regðrd1ng the ðforementioned .ubjects, Commissioner Kruee ~oved, socondcd by Com~i8sioner Wimer and .. . ~OOK 062 PACE 414 Pðq. 7 --- - -- --- --- ------- - -----_ _ _4 __ 0_ _ _ __._ .. -.-- --------- -- --------- ------ ---- ....' .. . ~1JO~ 062 PACE 415 July 23, 1901 carried unanimously, thðt tho Clerk to the Board budget (02-010) bl tentatively approved in the amount of $733,691. CJrs BUDGET (20-010) - TENTATIVELY 1\PflROVED TN THE "MOmIT OF $125,050 Clerk Reagan saId that C.J.I.S. is ð In!oroation processIng sorvice that i8 offored to all Criminal Justice Systoms. Ho added that It is currently run on the one mðin computer hi the Compl~x. Fiscal Officer 11l1rold Hall Btðted that this budget ðctually reflects the amount of money that the BCC pßYS to nata Processing for the CJIS. He said that the Clork'a office is attemptIng to got to the point whero the Clerk administers this Ðrea because the costs have gono up so high. Clcrk Reagan soid that he intonds to make a proposal to the Board to put CJIS under a unit d1ffcrcnt thlln that which it is under at thø preÐent ðnd that ho wants to break CJIS out coparately in an offort to determine the basis of appropri~tions of cost for all of the users and make those co£te e~sily identifiablo. Com~is5ioner ~enzcl moved, aðconded by Com~issioncr Kruse and carried un~nimously, that the CJIS buågct (02-010) be tentativo1y approved in the Ðmount of $125,050. nF:~^Rf<S Oy FISC-1\L ()FFICF:R RF.GMmING f,CIlr.J)1JLE 9 Re CLE:R!< TO Till': BOARD Fiscal Officer Harold Hðll referred to Schedule 9 of the Clerk to tho Board budget p~ckðge and stated that, according to Board direction, the Clerk to the Boðrd is going to contract out as much of the work as possible and that this should result in not having to hire one accountant this Y0~r and one the next. He said th~t th~ contractors will work on speciðl projocts here in the complex. Pa9. 8 -------------------------------- -------- ---------------------- - --- July 23, 1981 RE~"RKR HE SPACE FOR NEW JUD~E Fiscsl OffIcer Harold Hnll said that, through tho multiple efforts ot many members,o! staff, tho new Judge has been provided with ample room for an o!!ic~ and that hoaring rooms have been arranged, however, this now Judge's post ion will have a big impact on tho Judges' budget tor the noxt yenr and even morc the next. . * . RECESS - TIMEs ~:30 ^.M. - 9:45 ^.~. The meeting rcconvencd with CommIssIoner Wimer absent. County Man~ger Norman ðnd ~on~9~mcnt Analyst Henry HIll entered the room at thie time. * * * CIRCUIT COURT/JUDGE CARLTON BUDGET (20-040) -TENTATIVELY APPROVED AS PRESENTED Commissioner Drown moved, seconded by Commissioner Wcnzel and carried 4/0, with Commissioner Wimer absent, th~t the Circuit Court/Judge Carlton budget (20-040) be tentatIvely approved as prosented. CIRCUIT COURT/JUDGE CARLTON (COURTROOM OPERATIOU (. MAINT.) BUDCf;T (?0-041) - TENTlITIVELY APPROVF.D AS PRP.SENTED Commissioner Brown moved, seconded by Commlss10ncr Wenzel ðnd carried 4/0, with Com~issionor Wimer absent, that the Circuit Court/Judge Carlton (Courtroom Operation, Maintenance) budget (20-041) bo tent~tively approved as presented. ~'OåK 062 PACE 416 Page 9 ------ - -- ----.-- ...-- --'-.-- ---- --.- - - -- -- --.. --- --- - - - - -r-- ----- _._-_ _ _ __ ----------- MÎJ~ 062 fACE 417 July 23, 1981 CIRCUIT COURT/JUDGE BROU~SEAU BUDGET (20-05D) - TtNT^TIVELY APPROVED AS PRESENTP.D Commissionor Brown moved, secondod by Commissioner Wenzel and cðrried 4/0, with Commissioner Wimer ~b8ent, that the CIrcuit Court/Judgo Brousseau bud90t (20-050) be tentatively approved as presented. COUNTY COURT/JUDGE TRETTIS BUDGET (22-010) - TENT^TIVF.LY APPROVED AS PRESENTf.D Commisslonor Brown moved, seconded by Commissioner Wenzel and carrlod 4/0, with Commissioner WJmer absent, that the County Court/Judgo Trettis budget (22-010) be tent~tivcly approved ðS presented. COUNTY COURT/JUDGE I~YES BUDGET (22-020) - Tf.NTATIVELY APPROVED AS PRESF.NTF.O Commissioner Orown moved, scconded by Commissioner Wonzel and carried 4/0, with Commissioner W1mer absont, that the County Court/Judge Hayes budget (22-020) be tentatively approvßd liS presented. STlITES ATTORNEY BUDGET (24-010) - TENTATIV~LY APPROVED IN THE AMOUNT OF $6",5?0 Ass1stant St~te's Attorney Donald Pellecchia reported that the State's Attorney totðl budget request ls for $6~,5ROI $28,000 i6 for maintenanco related costsl and, $3A,SOO is being requested for oporll t ions. fie ex pl a i nod the v"'r Ious sources of revenue derived from evidonce, etc., last year and how a portion of those funda were used to offset ð portion of the salary of the A08lstant f,tate's Attorney who handlen the County Ordinance related cas.,o. PðCJ. 10 -- - --- -_.. --------------------------- --------- -- -- - - - - -- - - - - -- - - - - - - - - -- July 23, 1981 Commissioner Wenzel moved, seconded by Commissioner Kruse ðnd c.rried 4/0, with Commiøøioner Wimor ðbsont, that tho Gtato's "ttornoy budqet (24-010) be tontativoly ðpproved in the amount of $66,580. . . . Co~mlssioner WImer entered the meetIng at this time - 9s58 ^.M. . . . DISCUSSION REGARDING DRUG REL~T~n pnOBL~MS IN COLLIER COUNTY In anawer to CommiGsioner Arown, Mr. Pellecchia reported that thero is an increasing amount of drug smuggling goin~ on throughout Collier County ðnd he ~ddcd that hø connldera thðt if the authorities make arrests regarding 10' of the amount of Rdopc- coming into the County, they are lucky. He s~Jd that drug related cases are currently taking 45' of his office's tIme In Collier County. Mr. Pellecchia said that he accomponiod the State Attorney to the capitol on an annual trip to request fedoral aid in dru~ smugglIng casos, which they conßlder a Federal problem. He said that prior admlnictrations have indicated that if thero Is a local problem, his office should call on the Federal Drug Enforcement Admlnistrðtlon and U.S. Customs. He saId that it was not until two yoars ago thðt U.S. Customs even opened an offIce in thi8 arca and that thIs Is in Ft. Myors. He sðid that, whIle this is a holp in some aroaa, tho major problem occurs because the U.S. Attorney General would rother see the Stnte's Attorney's office prosecute drug related casos because Florid~ has stiffer penaltios than the Fedoral Government. He sðid thAt whnt ia happoning is that the Federal authorities are referring more and ~ore cases to his off lee which takes more and ~ore tlmo away !ro~ prosecution of caaes related to burglary, etc. The discussion continued, during which Mr. Pollecchia stated that hi. office ia qoing to add three attorneys now and tho end of the year ~i 062 ~ê~ ~j 8 pag e 11 ----- - - --- -- --- -..------ -- ---- ----.- -- - -- -_. · ------- -------------------------- .~. July 23, 1991 BO'OX 062 PACE 419 " '. , that would not be needed except lor the drug trÞfficklng problem. Thore was a dincussion regarding the possibility of encouraging legislation requiring Federal Assistanco in these matters, during which Mr. Pellecchia explained that the Federal ^dministration is preoently cutting back on many of the agencies that could have been of ðS61stanca. He said that another thing that has hur~ his office is the Public Information Act, wherein the ability for his office to work with the IRS with theso cases Is prohibited. He reported that there io a bill pending th~t would chango this and that it's chancos of passing looks good. fie cxplllÍnf!d thc!lt, if this occurs, his office can begin to work with tho Post Office and the IRS and that this will help the p~~s~cution of drug related CQ~es as wall ~s discourage many operations before they begin becauso the smuggler's operating cxpenSQS can be attacked. fie also saId that the new R~ckctcering Stlltute that was passed by tho legis1aturo will also help. He saId that, under this Statute, offIcials clln go aftcr the smuggler'o real property, land, homes, ute., ~nd, hopefully, the Attorney Coneral's offlee in Tallahassee will handle this. fie said that if "big- money Þnd potential lon6on such as thCSQ arc lit st~ko, this might discourage some of the drug oper~tlons thnt now experienco no groat finarcial losses when prosecuted. He G~ld that he cðnnot see anythIng posItive becoming a reality for at least another year. Mr. Pell~echl~ added that drug smuggling cnses take more timu to prosecute than a murdor C~BO and that his offIce is getting two or three ð weck. The discussion contlnuAd, including alternate methods of combatIng drug smuggling, methods of procuring dollarð with which to prosecute drug relllted caoes1 and tho fðct that omuggling druga 1a really a fedoral crlmc ðnd that {aderal dollars are needed In order to keep up Pa9 e 1 2 .-- - --- ---- -- -------------------- -} I; f.~ · . -------------------------------- July 2~, 19B1 with them. He said that it monetary assistance 1. not to b. torthcomin9, then, the Federal Government should prosecute these dru9 cases and tree the StatQ to handle other kinð3 of cases. The conaensus ot the Board was that they agreed. At the conclusion of this discussion, Mr. Pellecchia offered to gather pertinent data, facts, figures, cost estimatoD, etc. relatod to the prosecution of drug rolllted cases and to presont them to the Doard so that they may consldor the adoption of nn ~ppropriate resolutIon r~questlng Federal intervention and/or Fedorðl dollars to fight drug smuggling in Collier County. His offor was accepted ðnd Chðirman piator thanked hIm for his interest and timo, addIng that the BCC recognizes the problem and will b~ glad to cooperate in whð tever way it ClJn. PUBLIC DEFENDER OPERATING BUDGET (25-010) - TENTATIVELY APPROVED IN THE ^MOUNT OP $7, OaD 1 ALLOCATF;f) CHAP-GES nE Sll~¡:: BlJDGF.T TO I-'~ AD,JUSTI-:J1 Fl scal Off icer lIarold Hall stated that the Public Defender' 8 budget requeot for operating expenscß of $7,000 is up $1,190 over last yellr. He said thðt Asssistðnt Public Dafendcr Robert Hines is presont if tho Board has any questions. Mr. !lines explained why communlclltion costs ðro the reason for the increase, including the fðct th~t telophono calls are made on a daily basis from Immokalee from prople who are belng kcpt for pre-trial dentention there because of the overcrowdod situation in Nap1cs. The coats of these telephone calls was discussed, includin~ the fact that there 18 no -tic-line- available, as explainod by Mr. Norman who saId the PublIc Defender only has one tol~phone and that It is not connected to the complex owitchbollrd, thorefore~ the dJscount.ð rates for -direct Une- to Immokal.. doe. not .apply. lie said that this will be lnve.tigated. MOX 062 PACE420 paq. 13 --------- ----------------------- , . . ... ---------------------- ---------- WDK 062 PACE 421 July 23, 1981 Thore was ð brio! discussion rogarding tho allocatod charges as outlinod within this budgot, during which Mr. Norman s~id that they did not look accurate to him. Fiscal Officer Harold Hall saId that soveral of the figures soemed to be original figures that wIll hove to bo adjustod. CommIssioner Wenzel moved, seconded by Commicsioner Kruse and carried unanimously, that the operating portion of the Public Dðfender budget (25-010) be tentntlvely approved in the amount of $7,000, also, the County Mannger is to invostigate the accuracy of the budget figures rel~tcd to allocated chargos prInted In the presented budget. COLLIER COUNTY EMS BUDGr.T (40-020) - Tf.NT^TIVELY ^PPROVED ^S IŒCOr-IMf.NDED BY Em; DIRf.CTon IN Tllf. AMOUNT liS CORRECTED BY COUNTY ,.,AN^GF:n· S OFfICE County ~ðnager Normùn ref~rred to page~ 36 through 38 of the ßuðgct MOSSðQO, regarding the Collier County Emergcncy Medical Sorvice Oudgct (40-020). ne said that, in prepðring the issue paper, he attampted to try to Qrrive at t~o proposed costs In context with tho projected rovenues and the not coste, which wero the basis for the contrc'tct pðymonts made to Amcric...n ^mbulance In the prIor year. lie referrcd to the fact thðt he hao made the Po...rd awara that there were some errors thðt occurred regarding wrong information that was put into tho computer in on attempt to get the budget ready for presentðtion ðnd ho stat~d, for tha record, that the following paragraph on page 37 ol his Issue pnp~r should r~nd as indicated balow, including the corrocted liqurea indIcatod in bold print. paqe 1C .- - - -- - - - - - - - - - - -- - -- - - - - - -- - - ---- ------ ---------------------- ---- --- July 23, 19ß1 -Baaed on this projected revenue, the net cost to the county 90nerðl fund would be $A43,7GO (Sl,44G,OlO - $~02,250), or an increase of $140,9G9 ovftr the prior yoar to be paid by the taxpayers for ambulðnce service.- Further, Mr. Normðn stated that tho figuros on the top of pago 3(, of his issue paper should re~d as follows with the corrected figures as indicated in bold print: AMOUNT INVOLVED: $149,916, RECOMMENDED: $90,969 Regarding the basic issuea, Mr Norman stated that they are complex and that Mr. Greenflel~ is presrnt to tell tho Board why he feels these increased costs are necessary. 11ft said that the incrcased costs ðra in rcgards to four additional peoplo and c~pital outlay requirements. Rogardin~ the four oddltion~l peopla r~quc8ted by the EMS Director, Mr. Norman sald that lIll four would be paramedics, thðt ':~ree of them would be out-stlltioned in Immok~lce to provide the throe man 24-hr. ronponso which In nccenG~ry to provlde lILS service to the Ililmokaleo area. CommissIoner Wenzol asked Mr. Norman if he has qiven any thought to cetting up l\I!\bulllnce service on the MSTD method? Mr. Normðn roplied that he has given thin thought from time to tim~, however, hp. would not know how to nlngle out tho Immokðlee area liS a separate dlntrict becðuso thls is a county-wido service. He said that if the City would contInuo on the courso that it seems to wiah to undertake, wherein it provIdes ita own ambulance service, then, MSTD'. would bocome ð more viable approach. Tho diocussion cont~nucd rcqðrdin9 MSTD'S for ambulance sorvlce, using Commissioner's dlatricts ðS the boundaries for Ambulance M5TD'a 4IInd tho problems related to thia approach, as explained by the County MlInðqer. ~OOK 062 PACE 422 P4II; e 15 --~.-- - - - - -- --- --------- ------ - ..-- -- .._-- ----------- ..-------------- --- ----,..-- July 23, 1981 'B~~ 062 PACE '423 Regording tho fourth position being requostod in the £M5 budgot Mr. Normðn said that this would be ð supervisory position, providing on-site superviBlon of the EMS headquarters when the EMS Director Is not there. Ho .aid that the supervising paramedics all work the 24 hr./48 hr. shift schedule, and are in the field more than they ðre in the office. The discussion continued, during which Commissioner Wonzel said thnt he cannot understand how American Ambulance could do the good job they did In the field with the amount of employees that they corrip.d, and now tho County has to have so m~ny more. He objected to the jump in anticipated costa for provIding scrvice to the Immokalee area from 525,000 to $175,000. RegardIng the recommcndations that he has offered to reduce the EMS budgp.t, Mr Norman stated that they consist of not replacing one modular amhulance unit, recognizing that the County will have purchascd two units in the lQat yenr two ore preaently on bid, and two addttionDI units Dre proposed for rcconditloning. He said that he feels the County should bo able to manage without that unIt which would coat the ~ounty S30,000. ^lso, a subst~nti~l amount of new equipment i9 beIng proposed ðnd he foels that if the County has gotten along without all of th~so Items In the p~8t, why make such a quantum jump in inventory ~t thin time. Ho said that he i5 rocommending that ð total of $50,000 be cut from the presented budget. Public Sðfety Administrntor Thom~G Hafn~r rcferrod to ð ch~rt which outlincd the differences in cost of op~ratlon of the a~bulanco sorvico for FY 81-82 by the County a8 compared to what it would have cost if the contrDct with Amerlc~n ^mbulance w~s to have continueð. H. a180 displayod ð ch~rt that outlined the amount of money from the Pal] e Hi - - -- --- ---- ---- --------------------------- -- ---:.-- --- -- - -- - - --- - -- - -- -- -- - - - - -_. July 23, 1981 General Fund that it cost to pay for the oporatlons of American A.mbulanco for tho first G IIlontha of F'f eO-8l liS compl1rcd to tho cost from the General Fund to run the ambulðncð aervic8 as II County Department for tho socond half of FY 80-81. He said that the net coat of oporating the ambulance Dcrvicc, (ncluding contractual oporations and those of tho County E~S totals $1,142,266 for FY 80-81. 110 said that it is anticipated that tho Goneral Fund will have to fund $l,446,010 to operate the County EMS in FY 81-82. fo'Ir. flafner concluded his presentation by statIng that the projected F'i 1981-82 budget io ~, higher than the cost for ðmbu1ance service last year. Management Analyst Henry Hill stated that, during tho ovening before tho bud~et hcarinqs began, all of the CommißGioner's budget books WÐr~ collected and certain corrections in thc EMS budget were made, based on revIsed figures. fie Bald that the rccord should reflect that ccrtain figures in tho EMS budget have becn changed including adjustmenta for saJðries and insur£lnce a110cðtions. I!f} said that thfl total budget roquest now should re~d '$1,466,010. In rcply to Comml£sioner Wenzel, EMS Oirector Ooug1as Greenfiold 8tntod that the reason for the add~d parsonnol ovcr that under whIch MleriCðn Ambu1Bnce's opcrat~d is becðuse Ñnerlc..,n /,mbulancc WI'S in violatIon of tho licensing roqulrements. He soid that the 5tðtO was eXð~inlng American ^mbulanco license and wðn not sðtisfi~d At the time when the County took over tho service. Commissioner Wenzel asked hIm it the St~to is requiring the requo8ted four positions? ~r. Greenfield replied affirmatively, adding that th~ State Law re~ds that in an advanced lire Dupport situation, an availabIlity of ~ second regIstered CMT or Paramedic in the p^tient care compartment durIng transport, must be aø5ureJ. 110 8ðid that he hao been able to provlde that in the ÞOOK 062 PACE4Z4 Page 17 - _...- -- ---- - - ----- -- -- -~---- -.. - - - -- - -- -- · . . __ _ ___ _ ___.1.--___ _'---_ -.-- -- - - - - - -- - ---- July 23, 1981 BOOK 062 PACE '425 ~etropolitðn areas of the County by ualnq the paramedic supervisor who responds or by using a member of the Fire Department who rosponds as a part of tho two-tiered portion of, the system. He said that the Fire DepartmentÐ have two EMTts on board their vehicles and that iø why he is assured of that capability in the urban areas of the County. Mr. Greenfield Baid thnt in Immokalee he hns not been ðssured ol that capabIlity. He said that, although he has tried to get some response from the Fire Chief In Immokalee Dnd the volunteers, the interest just does not lie there for the pðrticlpation 88 a back-up to the system. fie said that Immokðlee docß not have cxtrication cðpabilities either and, mðny times in the p~st, ð deputy has hðd to transport ð firefightcr from North Naplcc to Immokaloc to offer that capability. In ðnswor to Commissioner Kruse, Mr. Greenfield sðid that he is running the same number of ^LS units as was American Ambulance, and he went on to explain the reasons for the additIonal man in Jmmokðlec, the problems involved with Wdown tlmeW when the backup unit from Golden Gate makes the run to ImmoKa1ec1 the time it takes to mðkc these runs, and, that he has found through study of otatistic8, that ~O, -70\ of runs to Immokalee are ßLS in nature and only require an f.MT. Howevor, he explained, since tharc is only one ALS vehicle thore, it makes that transport. He 3aid that hIs alternative to that situation Is to loave ð third mðn in Immoka1ee with ð spare truck, equlpp~d and manned, a8 a first respon50 vehicle. He 8ð~d that will also provide tho third po r son , 0 r tho Co 1 d (1 n c: at. un i t \o(h e n it II r r1 v ell. fflt II aId t hat he considers that ImMok~leo i8 being given good blanket coverage by addinq just the one a~ditional person. He Baid that he considers this method a good compromise and, at the Bame time, it meets the Stat.'. requirements ond keeps the SY5tCM v1t~1. Page 18 - - - - - -r- -----r---- --- ------- - - ---------- ---.------ ----------------------- July 23, 1981 Commi8aioner Kruse ðakod Mr. Greenfield If it Is absolutely necessary to have nnothar supervisor and, if it Is, docs it have to be a paramedic? Mr. Gr~enfield explaIned thot he is out of the office on official bueineos a lot of the time, the existing ßupervisor is now on the road constantly throughout tho day becauso he Is aloo acting as a backup to the Dyste~, and, at thiß time, the dispatcher/sccretðry is by herself and does not have ðn opportunity to t~ke a lunch brc~k unless someone congo back and rclievo hor. He saið that he plnns to rotate the four supervisory paramedics between tho office and the field. He caid that he considers thla klnd of a system more cost-effectIve than having to hire ðn operations manager as is done in ~any other systems. Commission~r Wenzel asked for an explanation of tho request for additional furnishings and ~r Greenfield said that the Immoknlec station is in dire need of cooking facilities, Mðrco f,tation has not been ronovated, and North Nðplcs needs additional furniture. He said that by furnishing the stationa ~nd making them more livable, he c~n put more domands on tho cystem, i.o. cutting down on activities of ambulance vehicles away from tho st~tion5 to t~ko care of p~rsonð1 needs. Commisslonor Wlmer saId that he has heard many good comments regarding tho upgradp.d a~bulance system, adding that he hð8 enough faith 1n Mr. Greenfiold th,H H he eays he needs somethIng he would vote to get it for h1m. He asked Mr. Greenfiold if ho feels that tho requosted modular ambulance 1s a necess1ty, or, did he feel that ho could qet along without it? Mr. GreenfIeld replied that he def1nate1y feel. that it is ne~ded to replace the 1974 model unit which has already had one chnsois replaced and 1s rU8ting out. He said that it Is not dep~ndðble and, In hiD opinion, would not be worth InvestIng ~OOK 062 PACE 42B Page 19 . II., .. __ - --- - -- - - - ------- - --- - - - -.- -- - - -..- -- · ·D ,; 1,: I; ,~ -- -- - - -- - - - - --- ------ -- -- - - - - - - - ~.- ---.... July 23, 1981 BOOK 062 PACE '427 more monoy towDrds contInual repaIrs. In answer to Commissioner Wlmor, Mr. Greenfield offered justificðtion for all tho equipment that he is requesting be purchased. He said thðthe was well advised to keep his requests to a minimum when preparing ,the budget, adding that all tho equipmont that he hlls requested is requirod to provide an appropriate level of servIco. He explaineð the need for various items, i.e. thumpers, pry axes, extricator kits, stretcher stair chair, etc., adding that these arc things that responsible systems throughout the Country use 5tandardly every day. In answer to Commissioner Wenzel, Mr. Greenfield explained that the Medical Director is requesting .!!n additional $12,000. He said that he 15 currently holding specializeð training classes on a continual educational level in order for the paramedica and EMT's to meet State Roquirements. He said that Dr. Tobcr wIll use $6,000 to sct up his officc/tralnlng room near the hospltal and he also said that some other systems spend upwards of $100,000 for a 5pcci~lized training offfcer. Mr. Norman said that Dr. Tober 15 requesting $6,000 for salary. Co~miSBioner Wcnzel stated that the ~ore budgets that he Is revIewing, the more he believefi that ~any Divisions should be funded through MSTD's. He said that if he votes ngaInst them during the publIc hearings, It is not because he is against the sums of the budqet~, it Is becausc he thInks they are being ðllocated wrong. Commissioner WImer moved that the EMS budget bo tentatively approved as presented, includIng the equIpment and modular ambulance, as recommended by the EMS Director. There WAS some diacuosion regardIng the $20,000 in tho EMS budget request for holIcopter reimbursement. CommIssioner Wenzol stated that thIa i. a matter of £traIghtening out bookkeeping and Co~mission.r Pðge 20 .~- - - - - -- -- - -- - - - -- - -- - ---- -- -- - ----- ------- ----- --------------- - -- - - -.. July 23, 19A1 Krus. dIsðgreed, atating that it shows up a8 an increaso in th~ EMS budget. Commissioner pistor stnted that Mr. Norman hfts prepared ð memorandum on this and ho believes that Messrs. ßafner and Groenfield will b. making a b~parato presentation to tho Boord for ðpprovnl of the $20,000. Mr. Norman Baid that the iSBUO of the helicopter will have to be addressed by itself. Commissioner Kruse said that since this 1s a tentatlvo opproval, she would second tho motIon on the floor. Upon call for the quo6tlon, the motion carried 3/2, with CommIssionors Drown ond Wenzel opposed. Commissioner Wenzel stated that he approves tho EMB budget, less the throe PQr~medlcß. Fiscal Officer Hall atated that tho rocord should reflect that the motion was based on the correction5 that were made to tho figures In the budget os penciled in the Commissioner'G copies and montioned earlier by Mr. Hlll. ^NIM^L CONTROL BUOGET (71-010) - CONTINU~O TO 7/29/P1 County ~anðger Normðn rcforrcd the Board to his issue paper on page 22 of tho Duñget ~~s~~ge, and said that he Is rvcommending the Animal Control Dudget as presonted by th~ Director o( Animal Control. Ho said that the m~l1n chùngc in the budget is relðti'Jc to thr. onimðl shelter operation. He said that tho particular emphasis in hIs Jssue papor is on license fees, adding that if his recommcndðtions ðre adoptod, they would occommodðte the increased costs with the exceptIon of the capital outlay costs. Ho sold that the issue 15 three-fold the shelter the hJgher liconse teco) and, the ðbandonmont of the neutering prog rom. There wa. a brief dlscusaion regarding MSTC's, ðuring which 'MOK 062 fACE 428 P,1ge 21 - - - --.- -- - - - -- ---- - --..- - - -- ...----- -- -- -- -...-.. ...-- _.. -- --- - - -- - - - - -- - --------- -- -- - - - - --- Ju\V ", 19111 .800K 062 PAGE 429 Commissioner pi.tor stated that conslderotion ot any MSTD's that might ... .... -.-- bo formed would not hove any effoct on the budgets now baing di8cussed and Commissioner Wenzel said ho understandn this, however, he still w3nts the Board to conðider thom for mony of these DIvisIons. Commissionor piator said that if this is the case, th~n, tho Board has to move Cast, as they would have to be formed by January 1, 1981. Commissioner ~rusc agreed, and saId that tho same holdo true for the Golden Gate Fire Deportment, if this i6 to become ð MSTD. Public Safety Administrator Thomos Hðfnor stated that he believes the Mr. Norman's Budgct Mcosagc is very clear on what is necessary Cor next ye~r's budget, bosed on the County operating an animal shelter. Commis5ioner Kruse asked if, by ßdopting the presented budget, would the Board, in f~ct, be dropping the n~uterin9 progr~m without public input? Mr. Norman replied ðfflrmatively, adding that tho Board would be rooking the policy decision that this is what they want to do. Commissioner Kruse expressed concern, adding that this is an iSBue in which tho public would be interested. Mr. Norman stated th3t therc aro two facets of tho neutering program that the Board muot consider. The first is the Ordinance which states that liccn~e fees shall be $3.00 anò that $1.00 of each licen~o sold will go towards the neutering program. l1e said th"t this $1.00 do~s not begin to cover tho cOßt of the program. Regarding the second facet of the neutering progr~m, Mr. Norman said that ho is proposing that the money that has beon collected and carmark~d for the neutering proqrð~, to date, in the estimated amount of $14,000. be utill~ed, instead, to offset the cost of the new facility. He oald that directly related to this, ho is also recommonding an increase in fees and that this incr."se would not include the e.,rmarkin~ of any portion of fe.. Page 22 ._- ---------------------------.---- --- ---- -- --- -.-----.--...,------ - - - - - -- July 23, 19131 collected for us. in the neutering program. Commissioner Kruoo asked if it 1. very often that capital expenditureo are paid for from foes, ðnd Mr. Norman said that it is hIs porøonal feeling' that it ought to be mora often. He said thðt this was done in relation to Tigortail Park. CommIssioner Wimer stðt~d that he hos no problema with fccs for things like at Tiqertail bocau9G that ia a straIght -usor feo-, however, regarding animals, the people who pay the foo And purcha&e licensos arc not contributing to the problems, the problems originate wIth those people that do not have liconseG and let their animals run free. He said that ho ls concerned with the idea of forcing the peoplo that comply to the law to pay tor tho ones that do not. The dIscussion continued, during whIch CommisBioner pistor asked why the County cannot charge feeo for adoption, and ComMissioner Kruse explained th~t if tho Board approves this budget ond accepts tho County Manager's recommendations, then, no one con adopt an ~nimol (rom tho County Sholtar. She said that animals will havo to be given to tho Humane Society if they think they Aro ðrioptoble, or, the County will have to exterminðte them. She ßðid that this is her objection to the proposal. Thare was additional discussion regðrdlng the Stoto mandating that adopted animals be neutered or spðycd. Mr. Norman said that the problem i~ thðt there Is no profit in adoption ðnd that revenuo from this sourco would just be offset by tho paperwork involved ; in processing the adoptlon. Commlssioncr Plstor stated that the County f would just charge the adopting person whatever it costa to neuter the I ~'anilDðl and Mr. Norlllðn saId that, it this. Were done, the County will not .dopt any animals lInyway. CommIssioners Kruse and Plstor concurred / that they aaw no noed to have an anImal shelter JUBt to extermlnate ~OÒK· 062 PACE 430 Pago 2 J - -- - -- --------- ------ - ---- -.- -_.- ---- . . ,. . Mm: 062 fACE 43I July 23, 1981 . ~ . . , - -------------------- ------------- - animals. Mr. Norman said that there itl still the need to have a place in which to hold an animal for ð period of time to allow ita owner to reclaim it. Commissioner Wenzo~ agreed. Commissionor Kruse soid that she believos that tho Board needs more publIc input before adopting such proposals and that she would not vote on this budget without it. She said that she has received complaints already from people who want more public hearings before the Board decides not to have Dn adoption program and sho would also like dIrect input from the local veterinarians regarding the claima she has heard that thoy refuse to c....opcratc wIth the County should the County have an adoptIon program. Commissioner Wimer askod if this proposal is not premature? Commissionar Krusc stated that she thinks it is. Mr. Normßn said that, if the Board wants staff to develop a program which includes a full ßdortion program, then, he believes that staff needs to come back with a revised budget. The discussion,. -continu~ù, Including the group of volunteers that wish to help in an adoption progrðm, the fact that they orc under tho impresaion that their help will bo accepted with the underatanding that ðn adoption program will be undertðk~n, peat volunteer work in tho shelter at the Hu~anc Society and how it works to keep clerical ðnd janitorial costs down, the need for the vetocinariana to make a public clarification of their posItion re~ardlng cooperation with the County and costs of neutering vðrying costs roloted to adoptIon fees, costs for inocu1ntion, philosophies regarding neutering progrðms, and, an /Ðxplanation as to how the ndoption of ~nimðls works now through anImal control oporntionn, DS outllnod by Mr. Staudenmaier. It was the consonsus of tho Board that thoy do not h~v. enough lnform~tion on which to make 4 decision on thiø budget ðnd Commissioner pago 24 ~ 0_- __ _____ _______________________ ------ h",,¡nj ~ ---------------------- '--- - - - ----.. - - - - - _. July 23, 19131 PIator directod staff to bring this budget back noxt week and to Include the information roquested by the Commissioner.. There was ð discussion regardinq the neutering program: tho funds collected thuB far I the fact that there lø an error In the presented budqot and that the corroct oporating total should be $148,727, a8 reported by Manðgoment Analyst Henry lUll. Also dIscussed was the possibIlity of justifyIng the hiring of a full time veterinarian working for tho County, to run tllo ncutoring progrllm, durIng ",hich Mr. Staudonmaier Gtðted that thero is not enough of thIs kInd of operations done to justify ono. CommIsaIonor Wimer asked that thIs also be looked into and be made a part of the presentation next week. Chairman pistor directed Mr. Norman to brIng in more facts and schedule this budget for next Wednesday, July 29th. Î REMARKS ElY CHAIRlo1AN ru:: f>!lF.RIFf'S eUDGf.T Chllirrnan Piator stated that 'tho SherIff will have an itemized listing of hir. budgct for eDch of tho CommlGsIoners by tomorrow aftornoon and that he has rO-Rchcduled a hoarIng on the Ghcriff's budget for 1J30 P.M., Wednesday, July 29th. * . . CommissIoner Kruse left tho room at this time - 11117 A.M. . * . MEDICAL EXJ\MINF:11 BUt:'GET (112-010) - ADOPTED IN TilE J\MCUNT REC()M~ENDED BY THE COUNTY MANAGER, REVISED METHOD OF COMPENSATION J\PPROVED AS RECOMMENDf;D B'f TII F. COUNTY MANJ\GER I COUNTY M/',NACEI1 1\UTHOR IZ ED TO NECOTI1\TE: TilE TF.R,.IS Of m:TAINF:n Of MF.:DIC1\L EXM1JI~f,R County Manager Normðn roferred the Boðrd to his issue paper on page 45 - 46 of the Budgot Mes8ðqo and ntated that, historically, the BoArd has been confronted ~ith ð nignificant numbor or cases handled by tho Medical Examiner as well os a 81gnificant increase In tees that he ~õo; 062 PACf432 Page 25 .' . .-- -r- - -- - -- - - --- --- - -.,-- -- ---- -- - - -- .-- -- ------ - ------- --------------- ----- July 23, 1981 BOOK 062 PAGE 4-33 has.ent&red into agreement with t.he County to charg& for his s&rvlces. He Bald that the combination of the.e increðøes has totaled a propo.~ð 62' increase in the lImount Collier County paid to the Medical Examinor in the last two years. He said tbat the majority of these costs relate to the personnel area, including fees for himself, his assistants, and other rolated costs. He saId that the cost that he is focusing on relates to personal service costs paid directly to tho Medical Examinor. He said th~t he feels that these costa must be stopped from growing at the rate ttat they have in the past. Mr. Norman oxplainod that the Medical Examiner is appointed by the Covernor as an Officer of the State. He saId that, by State Law, he must reach som~ kind of an agrcement with Col11er County relating to compensation for his services. He recommended that tho County adopt ð policy of paying the,. Medical Examiner on the basie of per capita method rðther than on a per c~se basis. Mr. Norman saId that the Medical Examiner, Dr. H. Schmid, i5 presently on vacntion ðnd plans to return to Nðplcs on lIugust-IOth, 1 '" if the Board would prefer to deter taking action at this time. Hcaring no objoctlons, the hearing continued and Mr. Norman recommcnded that the Board adopt a flat amount to be the basis for the Medical Examiner'9 compens~tionl this would not affect the costa of rent, sccrctðry, etc. He said the compensation would be adjusted oach year, ba.oed on the populatIon of Collier County ðnd not on the number of cases involved. Commiasioner Wenzel moved to adopt the County Manager's recommendations. Commissioner Pi3tor asked where 6ecrctariel fees, rent, ~tc. ~how up in the budget, and Mr. HofnQr ro!erred him to line it.~ 349, (Othor contractual services) which 10 $24,000. Mr. Norman said that offIce Page 26 ---- - - - -- ----------- - -- - ----------- , . --------------------------------- July 23, 1981 rental io undor 11nQ item 440, which 1. $12,11G, this i8 paid by the Medical Examiner and tho County then roimburses him, ba8ed on vouchers. lie said that this includeo offico spnca at $5,616 nnd morguo fees at $6,500. Thore was a brief discussion regarding the area in which the Medical Examinor has his offIce ßp~ce an~ tho tact that it might be lesa expensive to the County if it were c1sewhera, as exprcssed by CommIssIoners WImer ~nd Wenzel. Mr. Hafnor sold that this hns been a conslderatlon in the Polizzi/Heery space study and he addod that tho Medical Examiner would prefer an office at the complex in tho proposed new addItIon. Tho m~thod of payment for varIous costs to the Medicðl Examiner was discussed and, in answer to Commissioner Wimer, ~'r. Hafner said that, for tho first six months of this fiscal year, ho has received a delIneðted list of what tho MedIcal Examiner has paid out for each month when he requests rcimburccment. He added that ho haD now inItiated a strict requIrement that he wants to sce actual receipts. Tho dIscussIon continued ~G to what will harpen if the M~dIcðl Examiner disagrees with this policy, ðnd Mr. Normðn sðld that he believes that ho will havo to go to Court. In ona~er to Commissioner Wimer, Mr. Norman stated that the County CDnnot hire its own M~dicðl ExamIner. Ch~irmðn Plstor seconded the motion on the floor and, durIng the ensuing ðiscusslon, Mr. Normðn $tated that the MedIcal Exeminer is requesting the sum of ~127,OOOI that he does hiro pathologiÐts to work on his bch~lf ðnd compensateo them for this service from that amount, hovever, ho do~s not know how much. In answer to Commis.ioner Brown, Mr. Norman saId that he will rocelve, $86,550 this (iscal yoftr, which is on. of tho highe&t cost per cnplto ratIos in Florida. Mr. Hafner said . , , " I ~OOK 062 PACE 4.34' P.9~ 27 " , - .-}- -- - - - - - -- - - - - -- -:-- - -..,- -:-- -- '-:--- .r---________ .-------------------------------- I .. o ~\ I 6OD~ July 23, 1981 ..' . 062 fAtf 435 . thot the averagc cost PQr capita Is 43¢ and Collier Is p~ying $1.01 Mr. Norman told Commissioner Brown that h. Is recommending $96,000 be pc3id' to the Medical ExamIner In FY.81-02. " , . . . COØ\misoionor Kruso returned to' the room at this time - 11130 A.M. . . . Commissioner Brown st~ted that he cannot vote for the motion on the floor unless it etipulotos that the Manager is authorized to negotiato and Commißsioner Wenzel said that this is undorstood. Chairman PIstor concurred. Mr. Norman clarified that the dollar amount is not at iSGue, the basis on which it Is arrived is tho subject of the policy change. Commissioner Plstor askod for clarification as to whether the Medical Examiner would get extra co~pensðtion for court appearances, etc., ~nd Mr. Norman replied negatIvely, explaining that h~ will rcceivo a fixed amount of moncy to perform all of his dutios. CommissIoner PIstor clarif~ed that the motion is to accept the County Manager's reconmend~tlon ðnd authorize him to negotiate w~th the, Modical Examiner for the terms outlined on pðge 46 of the Budget Messaqe. Upon call for the questIon, the motion carried 4/1, with Commissioner Wimer opposed. Commissioner rl1mcr clarified his nogative vote because he foels that the total amount to bo paid to tho Medical Examiner If still too hIgh. ISLE OF CAPRI FInE CCNTP.OL DIBTRICT DUDGET (28-020) - TENTATIVELY APPROVf.D IN Tm; ^~0'J:'1T OF ~2R,79,,} Com~i5sioner PiBtor asked if the "dvlsory Aoord for the Islo of Cðpri Fire Control District hð5 reviewed the preaented budqet for the Isle of C~pri Firo Control District ðnd Public Safety Administrator Thomas Hafnor roported that they hðd. P"9. 28 -.-- - -- - -------- ------------------- ------------------- - --.-- --------- July 23, 1981 Commisslonor Wimer moved, seconded by Commissioner Brown and carried unanimously, that the Io1e of capri Fire Control District ~udg.t (28-020) bo tentatively approvod In the amount of $~Ð,792, aa outlIned on page G-2R-l2 of the Bunget Package. GOLDEN CATf. FIRE CONTROL DISTRICT DUDGf.T (2ß-030) - TENTATIVELY APPROVED IN TAr ^~OUNT OF S250,9R7 Public Safety lIdministrator Thoman Hafner stated that the Advisory Doarð of the Colden C~tc Fire Control District h~g reviewed the budget and i8 rocommending approval of same as presented. The dlscuBoion continued, durIng which Chief Dave Peeves Rtated thot the taxpayers do not seem happy with tho increaso in the millage. Ho Baid that tho major objectiono hÐVC come from m~mbcrs of the Civic ^ßSOciðtion, ~nd the gencral membership hð5 not voted on this. Chief Reeves said that the obj~ction5 seom to centor around the fact that the $20,000 loan that the Board approvcd that is to come from revenue from Fire District '1 to help pay for the fire truck. CommissIoner Xruso 88kcd if the budgot, ðS presented, pays off the fire truck rathor than financing it? Mr. Hafner Baid thé1t the problem lies in the fl\ct that if the Firt' ^s6ociation provided $20,000 the Board would match that with the $20,000 loan from Firo District 11.· He said th~t when he applied the one mill for taxes, the District could provide enough revcnue to pðy off tho truck and S<lV(' $11,000. lie said that certain objections ðre baing mnde bccður.e the Bonrd nqrccd to borrcy. tho monoy and now is not going to. Commissioner Kruse stðted that the record should roflect that, by approving this budget, the Board is changIng its previous action. ~r. Norman s~id thftt he believos that the ~ard should be guided by the ^dvisory Boards In the CAse of the dependent fire iÖOK 06Z PACE 436 poge 29 - ~- - -- --- --- - -- - -- ---- ---.- - --, ---- ~ -- - - - -- -- - --. . . . · - - ---- --~- -- --- ._-- --- -------- -- --- ..---------- ----- ..- .-- ---- ,--_. 6DOX 062 fACE4~ July 23, 1981 dlntrict8, and Mr. Hafner concurted. Commissioner Wimer paid that the Colden Gate area Is one of the fastest growing areas in the County and they havo boen underflnanced since they havo been formed. 110 said that hQ believes that it Is time for them to -stand on their own- and levy the taxes required to operate properly. He moved to approve the Colden Gate Fi re Control BudgClt (28-030) in tho amount of $250,987. Commissioner Kruso soconded the motion which carried unanimously. OCIIOPF.E FIRE CONTROL DISTRICT BUDGET (28-040) - TENTATIVELY APPROVED IN TilE M'O'JNT Of' $132,27A If: reply to Commissioners Kruse "nd Wenzel, Public Safety Adr.dnlstrlltor Thomas Hafner explDined tho source of funds for the OChopee Fire Control DIDtrict's budget for FY 81-82. He said that, when prepDrlnq this budget, the District will be receiving the -in-liou-of-taxes. payment from tho Federal Covernment for FY 81-82. lie said that other sourcos of r~venue include lid valorem taxos,' -.. inter-governmontal revenue, and intorcst. In answer to Commissioner Wimer, Mr. Hafnor explained that tho $39,200 intor-governmental revenue is Fcdural payment for fireflghting ßervices for approximately S1,000, fedoral payment in-lieu-of-taxes in the amount of $38,000 ðnd local govern~ont additional homes toad exemption trust fund payment of $200. Chairman Viator askod if the in lieu of tax payments will con~inue, and Mr. Hafn~r said thnt they will not continue ðfter FY 81-82. The problcms related to the decreðse in revenue for this District. were discussed briefly, durin!) which Mr. flðfner sldd that the Ochopeo FIre Departmont will only hðve ~pproximatoly $27,000 with which to oporate next year. The large communities that depend on thla Page 30 ________----r--------------------- --------------------------------.. July 23, 1981 District for tire sorvlcð were outlined by Mr. Hafner, includinq Chokoloskeo, Plantntion, and Everglados City. Commiosionor Wlm~r moved for tentative approval of Ochopee Fire Control Diotrlct Budgct (28-040) in the amount of $$132,278. Commisoioner Kruse seconded the motion which carrlcd unanImously. Chief Vince Docrr etated that tho Ochopoe Fire Control District's revonuo base will require some close stu~y [n th~ neðr futuro. He sðid that he and Mr. HDfner ~ro prescnt1y trying to work out altcrnatives for revenue including additional contracts for service because, when the Foderal in-lieu-of-taxes pnymonts stop, the District will not have enough monoy with which to operate. He said that the Ochopee Fire Department has mndc 260 responses this year covering ovcr 3,500 miles. He saið that his District covers over 1,000 Equare miles. He said that because his Department continueD to serve out1yinq areaD, cspeciðlly In the rescue areas, he would not want the County to glide backwards by not continuIng to provide ~hese cervicea. Mr. Hðfner concurred, and stated that, at thIs timo, th~ Ochopoe Fire Control District's primary response vehicle 15 ð ?-l year old pumper. Chicf ~err said that the pumper is used to respond to aroaa ouch as Chokoloskee for a heart attack. The discuGoion continued and othcr problems relating to l~ck of funds wert! outlined by Mr. Hafncr nEter ....hich Commissionor Wimer stated that he understands tho problem, howev~r, whon this District Wð9 created, he recognized that this day would come and that he i8 not surpriscd that the revenue i5 inftdequDte. Chic! Doerr sðid that ho has the documentation to prove that the neod 1a there regardles8 of the fact that the revenue from taxes i. n¿ 10ngor available because of the Big Cypress purchase. County Manager Norman stated that there iu a po..iblllty of contractual ~ork tor support tram the Di9 Cypresa &OOK 062 PACE 438 pag_ 31 .- - --.- ..- .----- -.-. ---~ -.- ~ ~-_. - - - _. ~.._. .~-_. --- &- --- - - - - -_.- - -- - - - -- ---- -- -- - --------------------------------. July 23, 1981 BOOK 062 fACE 439 . Preserve nnd this was discussed briefly. ^lso discussed were the proposal. reqarding cooperation with the City of Everglades, a. explained by Mr. Norman, and the terms of the Big Cypress Preserve purchase DS outlined by Chief Doerr, who remInded the Board that Ochopee Fire Control District a180 serves Lee Cypress, Plantation, Remuda, and other srAas besides Ochopee, which are all growing areas. HELICOPTER BUDGET (99-060) - DEFERRED, NEW REVISED BUDGET WITHOUT THE UHIB OPER^TIONS TO BE PRESENTED County M~nðger Norman stated thnt he did not identify the Helicopter Budget 88 on iSßue because the costs are basically the 8ame except for the F.MS program which causes it to riso and fall. Commissloner wenzel asked why the Civil Defensc Departmcnt is planning to use the helicopter at a cost of $8,025? He asked if this is a just anticipated revenue? Commissionor Wimer asked if the Helicopter bud90t Includes both helicopters snd Mr. Norman replied affirmatively. He said that the I m~in in~reasQ in the helicopter budget is tor fuel, etc, and he rôferred to the cOÐts anticipated regardinq helicopter use by the f.MS which is £hown as ~n expcnBO In the EMf, budget and a revonuo in tho helicopter budgot. Commiasioner Kruse asked what the $15,000 contingency is that is marked -now· on thc oxp~ndlture sido of the holicoptcr budget, idcnt!fied os code 9~O? Mr. Norman said that, bCC4USO thin is ð separðte fund, there is no way to trðnstvr money into this fun~ and that is the reason for tho contingency, howover, he did not think th~t the amount was this lðrgo initially. Commissioner ~rU80 expresaed concern that thia iø ð lot of money for a contingoncy and Mr. lIall ðgrep.d. Page 32 --- - -- - - - - - -...- - - -- - - - -- -.. - -- -- - - - -- - -- --------------------------------- ~ ~4 '" ;\. ~{ 'it , July 23, 19A1 The costs per hour for the helicopter ....as dofined by Mr. Hafner ðB $290 for the HUlD and $75 for the 47C. Co~mlsoioner Wimer asked for en explanation of the sentence on Exhibit wF-, which states aB follo....sl ~.fforts to acquire ð Jet Ranger holicopter (5 passenger or 1 liter/l EHT) will continue-. He said that he was not aware that the County was looking for ðn additional helicoptor. Mr. Hafner expl~ined that this kind of aircraft i6 less expensive to operate and that he i8 just looking. He said that there arc companies around the country that would trade both County helicopters for ono Jet Rðng~r. He said that this, is being pursued because a Jot Ranger will do the slime job as ~ithor county helicopters and will only cost about S~5 per hour. He said that this would be ðn even trade with no money involved. various costs of operations of a Jet Rnngor werp. outlined by the CountY'ß pilot,. Earl Sanborn. The discuGsion centored around tho contingency figure of $15,000 and County Manager Norman Dnd Mr. 1I1'Ifner oai<1 that this figure was not among their !1CJurcs. FiEC£ll Officer Hall ntðted thnt the revcnue sido of the budget had II projectod rt'vcnue of $15,704 hiCJh on the expend i ture side, "nd that thi6 figure was pll~';1ged in late frldðy night to balance the two. He said that what can bc dono 15 to strike that expenditure by that amount and reduce revenues by the slime amount. 11e asked what the total amount of the budget was that was sub~1ttcd, and Mr. Hafn~r said that it was $77,267. Mr. Norman Daid that he still belIeves that thcro Is ð noed of ð contingency becauno of the unknown in dealing wJth helicopter servicQ. Chairman Pistor asked Cor clarification as to transferrIng of adðitionlll funds into the helicopter budget if needed, and Mr. Hall stated that what has to be done, baaed on the tact that this is an intornal service fund, 1a &OOK 062 PACE 440 raqe 33 -.- - - --- - - - - - - .._- - -- ------- - - - _._- - -- - -_. I I _______J _------------------------- I July 23, 1981 BOOX 062 PACE 441' increðsa tho bIllings. Ae said that if the expendItures wore to be largor th~n the revanuos, and charges were not increasod accordingly, than, the only other alternativo would be to have ð budget amendment adopted that would transfer monies from the contingencieB in the Ceneral Fund into the Helicopter budget, in the form of a contribution. He said that this is what io done on Ð~bulðnce services. Commissioner Wimor said that the torm ·revenue- in rolations to the helicopter budget Is confusing because whðt is' actually being done; I I Is transferrln9 t~x dollars from one budget to another. "0 said that, in reality, it all comes from one source and ahould not bo contused with outsido revenuoo. Commissioner Wimer said thðt he fllvors selling the IIU1B bcc,luse he considers it an -expcnslvQ luxury-~ lie sðId that he would bo happy with just the one 5rollllcr hellcapter. The discusalon contInued regarding the pos31bI1ity of trðding for ð Jet Ranger1 the fact that the IIU18 is worth $250,000 on the open market, DS rcported by Mr. S~nborn who outlined the problema related to finding a suitably outfittcd Jet "linger that h~s ar ambulance door, which would cost approximately $13,000. . . . Commlßsionor Brown loft the room at this timQ - 12:01 P.M. . .. . Thoro was futher diacusGion regardIng the costs r~lðted to outfitting aircraft for UGC as ~n ðmhulancc, the foct that the HUlD 18 not certified a5 -ðirworthy· by the F^^I and Commlaslonor Kruses' co~m~nta reqðrding the need to ~llocate ðny ~dditlonðl costs to equip a helicopter ðS on ðmbulðnco to tho ambulance's budgat. There was a brIef discussion regarding the use of helicopters in tho cases of accidents for transporting patients to the hospita11 the rag- 34 --------------------------------- I -------------------------------- --~ »'C .. Q.I :) > .)~ :.I Q.I I) () .. Q.I II ... '. ~ c: II Q.I o,c 3 :a c: Q 0 o~ C~ () ~ ::s IO'C ~ 0 :10... 0. 2 Q.I ~ ... ; B .-I :~ )fo.t o 0... : () 4~ : B ¡ ... .0 1,'-< July 23, 19R1 , ! responae time involved in ranching outlying ðre~s of the County ðnd r,lated matters. Chairman Plstor exprcssed surprlao that the helicopter h~d boon used to tr~nsport paticnt~, as outllnod by Fire Chief Doerr and Mr. Hafner, ond stated that the Board was never ask~d to authorizo thin. Mr. Hafnor stated thðt these instancOB wore .~ergencies. He 9ðld that the HUlB 1s certified os ðn air ðmbulancQ and that this kind of use is parmitted. Charging [or ambulðnce service by hollcopters WlIS discussed, 'after whlch Commissionor Wimer stated that he will vote ncgatively on this budget unless something is donc to scale the opcrðtion down to only r~nning one helicopter. lie moved to dispose: of tho HU1ß. County Manager Norman said thðt this kind of motion will give him direction os to what the Board wants, and Commisoionar Kruse seconded the motion which carried 4/0, with Commissioner Brown ~bsent. County Manager Norman asked for clðrlfication os to the action just taken. flo ðsked Jf the Eoðrd is dIrecting hlm to prepare 0 revised helicopter budgot on tho basis of no longor operating the BUlB? ~ :.' . \ , , t Com~is810ncr Wimer stated that this wan the intent of hls motion. " : \ Mr. \Hðfner aakl!d if the Board wished the staff to Investigato ðcquiring \ ., 'ðJet Rangcr to replnce both holicopters presently being used, and CommiGsioner ~imer said that h~ would consIder this, however, he still ", likes t_he 47G. Mr. "afner e)'.~;ll\lncd the problcms aSGoc1.~tccl with using tho 47G tor tranaporting ð pathnt as .... part of the ambulance op~rationa, spoclfically, that it requires.... sling npparatua rathor than ð patient compartment an would bo available In D JQt Ranger or the I ,,,, \ HUIB. Ho askod if thla diroction is part of tho motion' ~nd' Co~mlsaioncr Wimer ....nswðred negatively. Chairman Pistor dirQctod Mr. Hafner to investigate the matter and rcport bðck to the Doord. Mr. . , ~. .. 80bK 062 PACE 44.2. Pag.. 3 S - - ~ - ~ -.- - --- --- .-_. --- --- . .~ --- ------ __________._---.r_....--...- ....--- "- ---.-- - --- -- - -- ---- ,- .. July 23, 19B1 J' W!)( 062 rAr.E443 Sl1nborn ðsked 1! he understood thllt, as of O<:t:.ober 1, 19B1, the HUlB will no longer be budgeted lInd Chðirmðn piøtor replied èffirmativGly, adding that ho hopl)s that something can be done to got rid of the BUlB in the next two months. . . . Commissioner ~rus. left the room at this time - 12112 P.M.' . . * DISCUSSION RE:. FIRE DISTHICT tl - NO ACTION TAKeN AT TIHS TIME DtCAUSE OF LACK OF ^ OUORU~ - IT~~ lICTrD UPON IN AFTERNOON S~S~ION \ County Manager NorroDn said thÐt FIre District '1 is a tÐxi~g district lInd that the expenditures are trðnsferr~d to the East Naples Fire, District and the Goldon Gate Fire DIstrict for the .Hea8 that. they serve, respectively. He snld that the Board has tentatively approved a . one mill budget for Goldcn Gate and he understðnds that tho East Naples Firo D13trict will be going to 1.1 mIlls. In answer to Chairman pistor, Mr Hafner explained th~t East Naples can go that high because they have II l.5 ~ill cap. Mr. Norman said that he is reconmending b 1 mill levy for Fire District 11. Fiscal Officer Harold Hall said that the anðlysis of al10c~tions of ;ovenucs for this Di£trict over the last five years has not been completed, and that he has instructod the people involved to 11~it the analysis to eight hours and to come up with the best figures available in that time. tie said that all the expenditures have been computed, howevor, the amounts of revenues Ðttribul~ble to tho various entitios, I.e. Marco, Golden Gatð, E~st Naples, and North Naples has been a difficult chore, especially nlnce those areas of concern have changed over the years. He said that the report should be complete by next week. Commi~sioner Wimer sald that he considers that the charges allocated are not commensurato with the level at service provIded and Page 36 o. .-. .-- - - -- --- - ----, --- - - -- - - -~ - - - - ---- - -'- - - -- !: , ~) '(. 1 '. . ':t -.' -- - - - - - - - ~ --- ---,..-- -------- -- - - - --. " I Ju1Y 23, 1901 that h. will voto neq~tivcly on tho budgot base~ on 1 ml1l. \. . . . Commissioner Wenzel loft tho room at thl0 ti~o - l21lA P.M. . . . During the ensuing dIscussion, CommissIoner WImer ~ald that he h~B requestod for Doverel yenrD a breakdown of District 11, on tho bools of concentrðted popu111ted "reas having more thallI mill and loss concontrðted ðrClIS being 1060 thon 1 mill. Mr. 11ðfncr said thðt thi!J kind of n breakdown would b<t impossible by October 1, al thou~h it could be initiated. Commisslonor Piator said that this District ought to be broken up and given to those DistrictD that servicos It. Commissioner Wimer saId that he has asked for ~llocðtion of revenue bðEed on the potcntiðl of servIces rondercd for years and this has ncver been accomplished, thereforc ho intends to vote "No-. Chairman Pistor said that Fiscal OffIcer Holl has outlIned the problems with ðlloctltion of this revenue, l1nd that he agrces with Mr. Hall that this area nhoulc1 be divIded and ðsslqned to the Districts thðt will be givln~ the servIce. Commlss1oner WImer stated that thore is not a quorum present, therefore the Board should be considered adjourned. Chairmðn pistor stated that the mcetlng will rcccsa at thls tim~ Ðnd shall reconvene ot 1130 P.M. GENERAL DISCUSSION RE OCHOPEE FIRE CONTROL DISTRICT'S PROrOSED INCnr.^SED MILL^GE County Mðnager Norman DoId that tho proponal to roia. the mil1ago for Ochopce Fire Control District to ovor the present 1 ~il1 Cðp hnB just been brought to hi. attentloo, adding that when the ßoðrd reconvenos this needs to be considereð ~nd recognized. ~ 06% Pt\Cf ~4 . Pa g. 37 -- - -- --- -- _.- -- ------.-- - --- - - ._- ---- - -- - --"- --- _.- ._----~------~--~----------------_. BOOK 062 fACE 445 July 23, 1981 In anower to Chairman Plotor, Fiscal Officer Hall explainod the ~ethod for approval of a ~illago increase, Inclu~ing that Board's directing th~t a public hearing bo advertisod and held to consider an amendment to tho relevo'nt Ordinance which specifies the millðge fllte I t~....~~o:ee. Ho saId that if the millage cap io approved aCter the PTbliC hearing, then, tho millage can be raised durIng tho public hearing on tho Ochopoe Fire Control District budget to whatever millage was adopted in the nmonding Ordinanco. In answer to Commlosioner pistor, Chief Doerr Baid that tho proscnt millÐgo is .75 . . . RECE9S - TIME: 12:25 P.M. - 1130 P.M. The meeting reconvened with Depúty Clerk Skinner replacing Deputy Clork D~vidson ~nd ComMissioners Wenzol and Wimer absent. . . . DISCUSSION RE FIRE DISTRICT III Chairman pistor said he felt material should be prepared to.~8~ign the different arcas of Fire District '1 to the proper areas that are taking care of them Dt the prescnt time ðnd notify thoRO pcople 80 that next year's budget praparðtion they can think about the larger area they are covoring. Mr. Hðfner sðld 49\ is covered by Golden Gate and 51\ by East N~ples. Ch~irman pistor said they shoulJ be taxed in the proper district and not have a District Il. Commissioner Brown moved, seconded by Commi5sioncr Kruse, and carried 3/0 with Commissioners Wonzel and Wimer ðbsent, thDt th~ tentDtive budget be approved with tho proviso that tho distribution of the 116tricts be corrected. Com~issioner Brown moved, 86conded by Commlasioner Kruse, and cnrrled 3/0, with Commissioners Wenzel and Wimer absent, that Henderson Croek Fire Dintrlct Budget, be tentatively approved. PAge )8 .._- - - - - - - --- ------- -- --- -- ------ ---- -------------------------------- July 23, 19A1 Com~ls8ion.r pistor asked to have tho Henderson Creek district examined to see it there i8 some way to derive moro income for that area and include the district with [ðst N~plÐ9. .....Commlasioner WImer cntered room at 2100 P.M.····· CommIssioner WiMer noted for tho record, rcgnrdlng th~ Fire 018- trict '1 vote, that he would have voted Dg~lnBt the ite~ hðd ho been prescnt. COMMENTS RE HELICOPTER AND CIVIL OEF~NS~: Mr. Norman said that b~sicðlly the Civil DelenGe budget is the continuation of the Sð~e opcrðtions as in the past. lie (¡aid thcre Wè\S Þn ~ppðrent In~roase because the helicopter budget has been Dmended to tCc!lnsf~r ð portion of thl\t expense to the Sheriff'a DCpDrtr:1ent. Commissioner Wimer moved, secondcd by CommIssioner Brown and carried './0, with Comminsioncr ~enzcl absent, that th~ Civil Daf~nse budget be approved with obvious changes re the helicopter to bo mado. PUBL.IC SAFETY OIVISrON RUDGET - Tf.t-IT^TTVf.LY ,.pppnvr:o AS rnOIFIEC' Mr. Norman &ðld th~t he hnd recomMcnded reducing trÐvcl COgtB, from $2,915 to $l,400, eliminating tho radIo ðn~ thn purchase of ðn automobile. He saId the Civil Defenso vehicle would be readily available to the Safety lIdmlnistrator. Commissioner Wimer movod, seconded by Commissioner ~ruse and carried 4/0, with Commissioner Wenzel absent, for tontative approval with the aforementioned modIficAtIons of the Public Safety Division bud9~t . ~OOK 0 ~2 'Äl44Ö rage 39 - - ~- -... ~---_..- - .---- -~... - - --- .----- --- -- ~-_. -...- - ----- -- -- - - --. ---- · . . ---- - - -- - - - - ~ - -- -,"--- - -- - - - - - - - - - --- W:3X 052 rACE 447 July 23, 19tH DI~CUS5!ON OF COMMUNITY DEVF.LOP~F.NT DEPARTMENTI Mr. Normnn Baid his recommendation recognizes thnt it is going to be difficult to hiro the number of people proposed and they will not be employed for a full year. He slIld he felt approximatoly $60,000 could be doleted recognizing tho fact that It would be i~pos8iblo to employ Dll the now people immediately, and said he recomm~nded increased fees in the Contractor Licensing section to keep p~ce with the coats which h.:we occurred. Commissioner Wimer moved, seconded by Commissioner Kruse and carried 4/0, with Commissioner Wonze1 absant, for tontative approval of the Building Code Complianc~ Budget for $ll4,974.00. Mr. Virta noted thore ~rc four buðget~ in the Building Code Compliance Dudgot, I.e. Administrðtion, Inspectors, Plnns Complionce ðnd Contractor's License. Mr. Norman noted he wanted to discuss BBtting up the Community Devolopmcnt DivIsion aa a sep~rate fund bec~use of the highly variable revenues that occur In that department each year and an ~ssurcd way of carrying thoso revonues over from one YQ~r to the noxt is needcd, since as permit activity falls off revenues f^11 off but Inspectlon6 lag from soven to twolve months after the permit fee is p~id and those monieo need to be held in reservc. Commissioner Wimer asked ~r. Norman to disçuss the situatIon with Fiscal Officer Hall and bring a recommend a- tion back to the DOðrd. Mr. Norman sðid one of th~ ðifficultieo i6 thðt the ~STD general fund for tho unincorporated ðrcð covors the Sheriff's p~ymonts, engineering revenuen ðnd expcndltures and because they bro lumped together any cxceS9 revenues generated by building tend to go to offset the QXpenS8s that ^ce locked In as for as the other activities are Pago 40 - -------- -- ------------ ------------- ----- -- ---------- ---------- - --.--... July 23, 1981 concerned. PL"NNING DEP1.ßTMENT BUDGET - TEUTl<TIVr.LY APPROVED Mr. VIrta said there is no change in the budgot request except the a~ount 1s up for the following reasons I 1. Personnel added to the dep~rtment, but phasing in was delayed to rcduce the current yeðr's budget, so there is a delayed impact on tho budget. 2. The other cost is that whIch is associated with zoning tho remaining portions of the F.stðtes. Mr. VIrta said that he has prepared an abbreviated outlIne of the work lIctlvities fðclng the PlannIng Department, and ho said Mr. Norm~n suggested It might be appropriate to workshop tho planning progr~m the Planning Department has boforc it now. .......Commisslonor Brown left the room at 2:05 P.~. .......... *......Commissioner Wenzel entered the room nt 2:25 P.M.······· A short discussion cov~red the items consisting of th~ Planning Department ßudget, i.e. Block Grant PrograM and the Tree Ordinance. It was the general consensus of the Board th~t a workshop should b~ held a week from Tuesday. Commissioner Pistor nskcd thðt cach project b~ aaBlgned the nmount of time that the project would cnt~11. Commlss10ner wimer moved, seconded by Commissioner Kruse and carried 3/l, with CommIssioner Wenzel opposed and Com~lsoionor Brown absent, that tho Planning Department budget be tentatively approved. .......Comml.alon.r Brown returned to the room lit 2J3~······· BLOCK GRANT BUr-Cf.T - Tr.~TATIVELY ~rrROVEO aoOK 062 rACE448 Pag 0 4 1 --r---------------~----.-------- -- , . . ,--- -- ---.-' ,_..- . --- --.--.-- --- -.- --'.'--"'--_.. ----.-' -- --- ---.-.---.---.-- ----- ~OM 062. PAlE449 JulY 23. 1981 -Commissioner wimer mov~dr seconded by Commisaioner Brown and carried 4/1, with Commissioner wenzel opposed, thðt the Block Grant Budget be tentatively approved. ENvtRONMENTlIL CONSULT~NT BUDGET - TENTlITIVELY ~PPROVED Commissioner wimer moved, seconded by Commissioner Brown and carried 3/2, with Commissioners pistor and Wenzel opposed, that the Environmental Consultant'S budget be tentatively approved. COM~UNITY DEVELOPMENT BUDGET - TENTATIVELY ~PPROVED Mr. Virtð said the primary reason for the increase in his budget is that ð position w~s added to hia section in May which will be filled next week and there will be a full year's salary on next year's budget. Commissioner Wimer moved, seconded by Commissioner Kruse ðnd carried 5/0, that the Community Development Dudget be tentatively approved. ZONING DEPART~E~T BUDGf.T - TENTATIVf.LY APPROVED The point waS made there are no new positions in this budget. Commissioner Wimer moved, seconded by Commissioner Kruse and carried 5/0, that the Zoning Department, consisting of Administration, Technical, and Investigational, be tentatively approved. _........n.ECESS: 2:10 P.M. RECONVENED: 2:40 P.M.········ Lf.THAL YELLmoJING (AGRICULTURE BUDGf.T) - TENTATIVELY APPROVF.D Mr. Norman stated all monies in AgrIculture Department are budgeted the in Gen~ral Fund. He Ððld the department is operating the same as in the past with the exception of Lethal Yellowing which will be operated as a self 6upporting program relying on fees ðnd fines to pðy the costs. There arc no parsons assigned to Lethal Yellowing. The Page 42 -" --.,. .-----.. ...------.-. --------.. -,-------.--...-------.--' -..-.--.--.--.----------- --- --------------------------- -- .-. July 23, 1981 c03tS for Lethal Yellowing consist ot tr~vel oxpenscs, postage, word processing charges and advertising. Tho program does not include .el11ng materials. Tho budget 1s $1,700 rcvonue with ð complot~ total of $B,300. Commiscioncr Wimer moved, aeconðed by Comm1ssioner ~ruse ðnd carrlad 5/0, for tentat1ve approval of tho Lethal Yellowing Budget. HEALTH DEPlIRTMENT ßUDC.f.T - TfNTl\TIVr.LY l\PPROVED AS þ.1~F.NDr.n Mr. Norman notcd that in his Issue Paper that fIguring the County's relationship to tho Statc's portion of the program is extrcmcly comp1ic~ted. Mr. Hill not~d that the amounts shown on ExhibIt -E- are corrcct and that Exhibit -C- lino item 1s incorrect. Mr. Normðn explaincd the syster.\--relatcd to HRS rf'gl!rding COGts. !Ie said rovcnues CO)':1e bðsiclllly by tees collected locally and feos that arc collected for programs that are directly opcrðted by State and nro ðddcd to the m'!s bill and used to pay that bll1. Dr. William Cox dcscribed the situðtlon In the Immokalee Clinic which has suffered due to 10s1ng all the CETl\ personnel. They wore not tibia to sustnin 1111 the clinic oper'ðt1ons so the flealth Dcpartmf"nt hllf assumed r.\ðny of the responsibilities formerly done by the Immokðloe Clinic, he Boid. fie gave the eXlImple of the County hlwing the only clinic that treðts Tuberculosis and the County has taken over the direct treatment of patlents in the ImmokÐleo orea who have veneral d1soasea. He oald the WIC and food program has been significantly increascd to corr~ct some of the severe malnutrition Cðsea, prlncipal1y in tho Haitians and to 60me extent in the Mexicans and Cubðn~. Dr. Cox Baid he tðlk~d wlth the cllnic dlrector who told hlm, out 'aOOIt 062 fACE 450 Paqlt 4 J i ______------------ ,--I ---------------- : P¡I)O~ 062 rAtE 451 July 23, 1901 , < ,. ~ . ~\ of hia $1 million budget, ho would estimate from 10\ to 15\ of the thrust of the budget went toword the ttems which the County now do.. t.o. treatment of Tuborculosis and venereal dlseðDe8, BO the County has , " ".¡. inhcrited ð possible financial burden in the neighborhooð of $lOO,OOO a I yp.ar for performing th~se scrvices. Dr. Cox said ho dið not feel it would coat tho County nearly that amount to perform the TB, venereal disease treðtment and treat malnutrItion. The Heðlth Dep~rtmont will try to ~ake up the deficit, by taking thc moncy they would spcnd on the proqrams the County now handles, Dr. Cox said. In respon5~ to Chðirm~n Pistor's asking if the Immigration Departmont could not pay something, Dr. Cox said last year thoy did alloc~tc $20,000. Dr. Cox described the ncw progra~ innovated by tho County in relationship between the Sheeiff, the County Health Deportcnt and the Personnel Pcport~~nt which has upgradéð the poor health facilitIes in the Sheriff's Departmont. Dr. Cox rolðte~ a situ~tion in Voluoia County which rcsulted In the Ju~iclnl System cIting the Health ~pùrt~cnt for contempt of Court because of the mcdlc",l cllro of prisonors in that County and he said he wao afraId that could happcn in this County. He sðId a cooper()tivc medIcal progr(,m hll5 becn devolopod whereby the Hoð1th r'epðrtmcnt provides medical services to th. Sherif! and porsonncl Depðrtm~ntB. ~ll of thu phYRic~l oxnmin~tions are provided by the He~lth Deportment tv the County employees and an arrangement has heen atarted so th~t employees injured on tho job CDn go to the clinics and receive medical ottcntion, he explðlned, with facilities to rcfor ðnything that the lIeðlth Dcp<Htment c.:lnnot handle to tho proper medicol facility. Dr. Cox naid dðlly sick c~ll has bo.n instituted for the Sheriff'a ~" .~. Page U ------------------------------- ·.,~f ---_._-------------------~ -- - - -- - -- July 23, 1981 Department and medical complðint9 are handled by the Health Department. He said ð much mora effectivo, efficient system 1s now in progress at ~uch less money. Ho said thla program is beinq watched by other stato Health Departments since such a 6YOtC~ 1s not happening any~hcre .lso In the ~tðte. Chairmnn ristor pointed out the dental requirements of the SherIff's Department, lI1ao. Dr. Cox £8id that the Sheriff in Glades County hrings his inmates to the Health Department for dental wo r It, a 1 60 . Dr. Cox explained that the W¡C ~oney is returncd to the County even though tho Hell1th Dep¡,rtm\!nt pays it initially. He saId this program brings $350,000 of Federal money into the County overy year. He said it was an effective me~ns of combating malnutrltion In the County. Commissionor Kruse noted thcre w~s D computer rcquested by the Health Dopartment ðnd shc said Dr. Thomas had mentioncð she had not recommended a computer for this dcpartment. Dr. Cox cxplained that the computor ho rcquostod io the name typo as used at Fort Myers ðnd the Lee County Health C'Cpl'lrtmcnt has offered free use of 1)11 their softwl'Irc. lIe Bðid tho computer requeßted in made hy Tandy Corporation. Mr. Norman said ho ðid not rccommend againGt t~is request because it waD a special purpose, inexponsive computer Cor the onvironmental health information process. Dr. Cox 8ald thðt ~1r. Norman suggested the Health I:'epllCtmont see if they could influenco tho State to have the State Funds come through the County system which would b~ ðccounted for and spent by the County Instead of the dual ayst«un now employed. "0 said such a program i. being considered In Le. County now but thoy arr rather diøcourðged after two year'o work. aOOK 062 PACE 452 Paejl e .. 5 ·_._ .. _..4_ . ______4. ..__ .._.. __ _ .4__ _~_ ..- - .~- -- -- -- ._- --- ~CDK 052 fAtE453 July 23, 19B1 Dr. Cox said in tho past ho has appearod bofore tho Board at the Budget Workshop. and had his bu~get ðpprov~d only to fln~ that at subsoquent meet1ngo his fundo ðre cut ðnd he roquested the prlvilego of being prcscnt 1f his budget is discussed ðgaln. Chairman p1stor agreed to 1nfor~ him If his budgot waD to come under 3crutlny· Mr. Norman prc~ented tho issues as listed in his Issue and options papor noting that the Naples Day cost was recognizod as a r~vonue. Dr. Cox saId that the monitoring of Naplcs Bay is rCDlly not ð responsi- bility of the County but it iÐ ð DEn rosponsibility and tho district dlrector has written to Dr. Cox recognizing that fnct. Thore was ð lengthy di~cussion reg^rding the morits of tho Naples Bay monitoring program and the possibility of hòving ð local firm do the program, with th~ notation thðt tho Conserv~ncy now does ~ similar study. Dr. Cox wðO oxplicit in his contention that it waD ð vital progrðm which should be continued to ward off the possibllity of ðny threat from salmonella and sinilar diseascs. Dr. Cox made a direct recommend~tion to the Board that, it the Stato doeS not do the N~plc5 Day monitoring, the County should do so. Scvcr~l timen Dr. Cox explðlncd that tho Conservancy is not testing for the name items which tho County nccda to carryon proper monitoring of Naples Ðay. Commissioner Brown ~oved that ~onitorinq of Naples Bay be odded to the l1ea1th Departmont budget. The motion failed tor lack of ð second. Dr. Cox waS directcJ to get in touch with ~arco Islðnd ~rlne to Goe if they ðre capablo of doing the snmo testß ~~ nre now being sent to the University of florldô for study. *******Commission~r Wimor left the room at 3:15 P.M. Returned at 4100 r.~.*****·* paqe 46 .-_. --- -- p-- -~-- --- ,-- --.' -" -- ·'1-- --.-. --' -~- - -- -. -- - - - -. -- - - - - --- 1-__----'"----- ---------------------- ., u I Y 2 3 , I 9 e 1 Commissionor Brown moved, secondod by Comm1Bsioner Wimer and carried 3/2, with Commissioners Kruse llnd Wenzcl opposcd, that the Health Department budget bo tentatively ^pprovcd with the County Manager's rocommendations on lncrcas~d fees of ~22,OOO, deletIon of the WIC equipment and purchase of 1'1 computer with tho corroctod amounts as shown on Exhibit -Ew. DISCUSSION OF CIISI I3UDGf.TI Mr. Normðn stated that the rellson for incrcl'Iscs in ClISI i5 for building mnJntenðnce and cU5tod1ðl ond ðctivlty services and Is asking that x-rays tllkcn lit the requant of the Heolth DeportMent be paid for by the County. Mr. Tom Clark of the Immoknlee Clinic exp1ðined he was asking for 10\ of actual expendituro to be reimbursed by the County. He sllid 50\ of the patiante seen in the three clInics are renidents of the County and not just mlqrant farm workers. The point was made that the total amount of the budget is ~43,?32. ...Commissioner Wimer left thA room lit 3:15 P.M. ßnd returned at 4:00 P.M...·..- ^fter n lengthy discuEnion, Commiasioncr Brown movcd, 5econded by CommissIoner pistor, th~t thn budget be approved as recommended by the County Manager in the amount of S43,P32. The vote waS 2/3, with Commissloners Wenzel, Kruse and pistor opposed. "fter ð dißcussion regarding alloc^ting money for the ob1igðtion of tðkin~ cðro of tho building, Commissioner Wonzel moved, seconded by Commisslonor Kruse ðnd carried 5/0, thðt $31,832 be tentatively approved for taking care of tho building. 800K 062 fA&E 454 PAge 47 - -- - - - - - - - - - -- ---:-- - --....- - -- - ---:"' - -- - - - -,'- - -- --~ ·--~- ._-----'------------- -----"- -"--~- ~~ 05Z 1'A~455 July '-3, 1981 OCCUP^TIONAL LICCNRE FEF.S - TO nF. Dt5CU5GEO L~TF.n Mr. Norman said he rocomrncnd~d en 1ncreðß~ of occupational licansD fee of ðpproximately $40,000. He noted he has a letter from Tax Collector Guy Carlton supporting that and he would like to ~ork into the fee echedule amounts to cover the coat of investigative ectlvl- tios Mr. Carlton has to do. It was decided thðt this item be brought back for diacu9sion. PUBLIC HEARING APPROVED RE OCHOPEE FIRE DISTRICT MILL^GEI Chairman pistor noted that in approving the Ochopea Fir~ District budget the cap of 1 ~i1l was exceeded. Therefore a public hearing has to be advertised to raise the millago to 1-1/2, he said. Commissioner Wenzel moved, seconded by Commissioner Kruse ond carried 5/0, thðt ð public hearIng be aòvertised at the earliest possible time to increase the millage for the Ochopee Fire District. There being no furth~r business to come before the Board, t~e meeting was adjourned by ordor of the Chair - Timel 4135 P.M. Page 48 _ _ _ _ __ __ _ _ __ _ ----"'_ __'.--.Þ_ . ,