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tF.T IT BE RFMEMBF.RED, that the nonrd of County Comm15sioners In
And for tho County of Collier mot in BUDCET WOR~SHOP SESSION Þt tho
Courthouse COMplex, Fast Nðp1cs, Flori~n, nt 911(, ".M. on this data
with the follo~l~q members pr('scntl
CH"InM~NI C. R. ·nuss· Wimer
VICr CH^InM"NI f'llIry-f'rðnces Kruse
John A. pi stor
Clifford WE.'n7~1
Dð v i d C. 8 r 0 wn
ALSO PRE~f.NT: c.. WilliAm Norm~n, County Mðnðqer Elinor f'I.
Skinner, f.'eputy Clcrlq Hðrolrl t. "ðll, Chicf Deputy Clork "cnry Hill,
Budget "nalystl Ponðld Norton, Puhlic Services "d~inistrðtor1 Edward
Smith, ^Qslntðnt County M~n~q~rl P. K. Knutp. Hartm,.n, Puhlic Works
Adminlstrðtor, Reqglc ~rown, "qriculturo Director and GrDce Spaulding,
Admlnlstrðtivp. ^irln to tho BOðrd.
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1. Stntus Report on Millnqe Ratos
2. Stntus Report on ReductionR nnd fihortfalla
3. Depðrt~ental Budget Rcvirws
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STATUS REPORT ON MILtAGE RATF.S
County "'ðnaqcr ~ormðn oxplnincd th~t because of complications ft8 a
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rcsult of intorfund trnnsf~rs ð ~hort d~lðY wna nocessnry before the
~udqot Worknhop could bog in to allow tlmo for th~ tin~l ðocum~nt to be
rOAdy and he roqucnted a twenty minute recess. Com~isoloner Wenzel
qucstioned whr.ther tho sðl~ry increas~s ðra the same for cveryonø, t~
which Mr. Norm~n explnlncd th~re is ð oingle lino item in each section
of the dcp~rtmontðl burlqets, nccount 2~9, thðt is calculated on the
b~5is of ~, and thnt consist8 of S\ of the personnel costs of each
dcp.Htment which include'8 Social ~ccur1ty, retirement and fllllnry nnc1
thnt evr.ryone is tre^ted tho same.
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Chi c f De put Y C lor k If a 11 c x pI a i n c ci t h ð t t he 11 CJ 9 reg ate m ill ð q .. on
,,11 tðXCfI levied by tho flce (livlt1el1 by the tot..,l assesscd valuf! would
produce ð millage thðt 1s approximately ~.2 ~nd thnt 3.34 Is the
mdxlmum th~t cnn be nllowpd on the n~sess~11 value. He snid that the
mlll1lqe rcduction in ,n~ b~t th1l~ doan not menn nnythinq until the
n5sc~Gcd vnlue is known. Hp Rnid thot the tax ~oll~rg that will bo
derived under the m~ndatcd t1lX deduction proqram will be 7' less on
exl£tlng property but th~t there is lOt new growth dollllrs so that
there will be 3\ mora t~x dollðrs than last yenr.
Mr. Norm~n r~f('rrcd to a nheot lintinq the changes he recommonds.
Ii~ cxpl~lin~d th.lt the Colden G"te Mf,TU itc~, S25,790, r('prescnts nn
ðct;ustmcnt of 5\ which hns to be 1Illowcd (or rpserve an~ that it Is 5\
Moro thnn the ðctu~l co~t.
lie n.,id thðt Community t)('velopment"
^rlMlnistrntor Vlrt~ ðnd puild1n~ Director Scðmchorn h~ve revIewed
rccp.nt informntion on building permits and that they find it nece8sary
to de'croano the pro;ectrd revenues for next yoðr in Buildinq Permit
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FðOØ by ~404,OOO and that hecausc of rev~nun nhortfnlln occurrinq thiø
yenr the amount thnt would ho carri~~ forwnrd would bo dt'crenaod by
$6S,27A. He said thðt the figure of $P?,110 on the sheet is part of
tho solution and he explained, b~cnuso of tho shortfnll, tho
anticip~tcd overðqe which W,.o planned to be transferred out of Fund
177, CommunIty rovolopmcnt, cnnnot he done.
Mr. Norman explnln~d the ndjußtmentc that hnve to be mnde, adðing
that he is rccomm~ndin9 the ~~letion of th~ Contingency Rcsprve portion
of the total $950,000 Contlnqcncy and Contingoncy Resorve which he
feels can be done without seriously jeopnrdlzing n~xt year's operðtion.
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Mr. Norm~n 8~id that it wna disr.ovcred thðt in cnlculatinq the ~\
rcserve for the General Fund, which is 3 result of tho State law that
mandates that no more than q~, of what is nnticIp~tPd can be ðppropri-
ðted, on error had been made nnd that amount was $41,000 highor than
neCC!3Si'lry. 11~ said thnt the $1;1,207 number on tho Eheot would come
from tho Rcscrvc. He sès1d req<'lrcUng the S:D,400, Transfer to Capital
Projects, it is not nnticipated thnt money will h~ Apent out of this
year's Fund 175 and, therefore, thnt cnn be nvailnblc to allow for an
increase in taxes In that fund for next year. Rcsponrling to Chairman
Wimer, Mr. Norman explained thnt Amount was for Capital Programs for an
addition to ð sp.rvicc building.
Mr. Hðll oxpl~incd the ~12~,779 figure, ~djuDtments to cash
carry-forward ðnd contingency, Ðtðtinq th~t, by moving some of the
rOBerve~ nround, Fund 17~ cðn be decreaseä by that fiqurn which would
rosult in the ability to l~vy more taxes in f'und 17S, ðdding that total
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dollars to bo lovicd will r~mnin the snme hut th~ mon~y Is chnnq~~ from
on~ fund to ~nother to addrcsn tho shortfnll.
Chairman Wimcr ðsked if the budgot bnlðncoft an~ Mr. Norman
rcsponded IItfirll'1atively. lie B:1id thðt, nlthouqh thcre is not ð Bnlll
lintlng of line item reductions in Community Devclopment, he is recom-
mending thðt dep^rtment further reduce the budgcts which, will result in
reduction In torce, elimination of present positions which can be
justified bCCðUSO of the ~ecrea8e in construction activity and thllt
accounts for the ~G5,~l2 fiqurft.
Mr. Norm~n nnid he recomm~ndn tho E~Ðt Nðplp.s Librllry ~r~nch be
clofied whIch would bc n savings of $20,710. nespondinq to Commissioner
plator, Mr. Norman Aalrl that the 11brnry ie helnq uned quite a bit but
if scrvices will have to be cut some plllce, it is neccssnry to look lit
thonc scrvices thDt will hc'lvo tho least rli~ruption. fit'! salrl $1),5(,0
~ould b~ rnlscd if rccre~tlon f~p.s In tho softball and 8umm~r program
are incrcl!sed. He s.,id thl'!t orlqinally he hl'id nnticipated thnt the
year would ond with ~l(,3,OOO in Fund 177, Communlty Development
Unincorporated Dcvelopm~nt Fund, however, bocnus~ of the projected
shortfðll this will not occur, therefore, thnt fund will have to be
reduced by ~1(,3,Q5~.
Co~~ls~loncr KrU9C s3id she could not c'lqreo with reducing contin-
gency nnd thnt she could not vote to closo the libr~ry. Chairman Wimer
sðid hr would r~ther s~c the llhrary left opp.n, / ddln~ thc'lt there was
53n,nno In the budqet (or II pðrk. After ð short dl~cugsion, the
consensus wnn to del~te th~ pa~k improvcmrnt ~nrl the Golden Cnt~ pllrk,
in ord~r to kaop the Enst Naples Librnry open and the funds transferre~
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to Fund 177, which woulrl bo $35,000 for Piedmont Circle and r,~0,000 for
Golden Gc3tC PlIrk. Mr. 111111 said that if the funds for parking at Tiger
Tail bellch parking arc put in tho Capital Improvcmcnt Funds that would
not 1mpl1ct tho bud~ot but would lowcr the Fund 175 budget.
Public Serviccs Administrator Norton explained that there WaS a
bid opening AUgU5t 1l, 19A2 on the Courthouse groundß contract that was
35\ below last ycar's contract ~or ð aavings o( $19,1~2. He said that
he fclt thAt incrclIsing the summer progrnm recreation foes would he a
mistllkc because there arc many youngsters who cannot afford $30 to be
in those programs. Commissioner Wenzol suggested not increasing the
fees, and thcre was conacnRUS to leðve the fèos as they are.
Mr. Norman 5aid he feels the rccommcndlltion for the County to
purchase lllnd adjacent to ~he Immokaleo Courthouse as shown as an
o~pendituro for this year's burlget for $125,000 should he preserved
becllusc tho land will not be thAro long IInd the lllnd is needed for
plHkin9.
Commission~r Kruse said she would like ð close look made at not
using the trðnsfcr station, of cloning it and re-c~tðblishinq a type of
transfer st~tlon operation at the landfill. Commissioner plstor slIid
he cannot aqree to thp. feas proposed for the transfer station. Com-
missioner Wenzel said cveryone should pay on n fair basis.
" discussion followed regarding the Vcterans Services Department
with Commissioner Drown stating that department docs ð lot of good.
Mr. Norm~n said that ~r. K~hoo is director IInd there is ð full time
secretary, adding thllt his and Mr. Norton's evaluation is that the
secrotary could be part timo. He said he hopes to combine thðt
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ðepðrt~~nt with DO~O othor activity tor more cffl~iðncy. Chairman
Wlmor ß~irt it is ð beneficial ~nd worthwhilo Dp.rvice and th~t as long
as the sorvice is not hampored the Doard would ðccept that. Hr. Normðn
said he felt the scrvico could be hnndled with fewer hours. Chair~an
Wimer as~ed ~r. Norman to look diligently at the Veterans Services
DeP~rtmcnt situation.
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Commisaloner Kruso quoationed tho neod tor $73,000 for mobile home
tral10rs and Mr. Norman said that port of that requeRt was for two
tr~11erø requpeted by the 5herift. He said that the money does not
have to bo spent on tr~ilers. ~oBpondinq to Chairman Wimer, Public
~~fcty DIrector Dorrl1! explnlnpd thðt the construction trailer pur-
chased for Polizzi/Hp.cry cost ~2,500 and that two or three timen thðt
amount h~B h~cn Bpent to obtðin utilities for that trailer. ~o sald
th~t trbiler will be used for tho construction manager and construction
enqlnpcrs wh~n construction (or th~ Justice Canter beqins.
^ discU~51on followrd rrqarding the "R^ fleot maintenanc. with
Commifisloner rlotor £tðtln~ that in !9~l ~e~~,OOO was shown as helnq
spent for thin itn~ and that $97~,OOO was budgeted lost year. Asois-
tant County ~ðn~qcr Smith gald that Sl,~~~,q,] rpally ahoulð be reduced
to $9S0,OOO to comp~rc with the IA1-0? budqet figure of $97r,,2~O,
becnU5C included In the t.!,~5~,~2l i~ an ^mount of monny for the ^RA
fee, their tðrqet pricn, r.djunt~d with ðn R' f~ctor for the sovan
monthG of the yn~r thnt is unknown plu~ tho money for th~ motor pool
ðnn th~ pðrtG coat.
fie Gnld thl"lt npproximðtcly ~l3{'\,OnO is being Baved
a~ ð result of contrnctinq flo~t m~lntcn~nco ðnd ho cxpl~ined how that
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Ri'lvings i6 rcali7cd. Mr. 11111 said that the- rCi\f1on the lI~ount seems
inllntcd Is bOCI\UBO thr. money is pllGscd throuqh nn~, in a Rense, doubl0
counted. ~r. ~mlth explained tho mannor in which tho ^"^ contr~ct
works wherchy tho County nnrl ~R^ sh~r~ tha nnvinqs with thr. County
keeping 70\ and "R^ gotting 3n,. Roftponrling to Commiasioncr plstor,
Mr. Smith nnld that the costs ¿tro leD8 now th~n wh~n tho County u~eð
outside 6crvic~.
Commlnß1on~r ~rusc quostlonad the ~1í'n,nOO Contlngcncy to which
~r. 11111 r~Bpondcd that the contrAct did not st.Ht until rebrunry and
the 12 nonth estimate {rom "R^ docs not rcfloct n full year. ~r. said
that F!~cn1 Officer Giles was conc~rned that'money WIIS hr.ing put into ð
line 1tem collrrl RCRerv~ for futuro ~xpcndlturca ~s hc felt thi'lt 1s not
/In npproprlðto placo to "load I"oney" for future purcbaBoB and ho want.ð
the money moved to a Contlng~ncy item.
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~r. Norman aaid he fclt that the rarks nnrl Rccrelltion Department
roport waG <1oorl, IInrl Ch~lrmlln WI~or n~rc~d. A short discussion (01-
low~d rcqðrding tho ^qrlculturc Dcpnrtmnnt rlurinq which ~r. Nor~lIn ~aid
that no money 1s being npproprintcd for tho Lethal Yellowing Progrð~.
"grlculture Director Prown r,aid therc would h~ a monitoring sltulltion.
Chalrmlln Wlmor r~fp.rr~d to hench improvement ~t the north end of
polic~n ~^y ^nd IIsked if funds w~rc bud~ctcd for th~ fln~l Improvo-
m~ntß, to which ~r. Normðn said that in Fund 304 thcre is $100,000
which WðS ~ddcd to the s~oo,onn ^nrl th~t he intends to fr~e up p~rt of
that monp.y for that pl1rpono. Puhlic Works "c1mlnlstrator Ifðrtman said
thðt tho budqct IImendmont for the cul-c1e-sllc 1n thn ~rOð has just beon
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npproved. Chalrmðn Wimor øu~q~"tcð that Dome of tho $~~,noo saved
durIng this àIscunslon should h~ u8~d for vnrIoun h~~ch acCOD8
location!! AlICh I\S Horizon Way.
....Commissioner Xrusc rrturned at 101S~ ~.f'I.****
Chalrm.,n WlrnClr s"id ho would lIkn $10,000 usorl tot' the 110dzon Way
nnd Vðn~crbI1t Bench access points for trees and cleanup. Commissioner
Xruse asked If to1eD,OOO for bp.~ch accrÐ8 improvem~nt8 w~s not in the
budget to which ~r. Ifill rrsponded nfflrmðtlvcly In Fund 304. Chairman
Wimer Bnld thðt ho would like the situ^tlon specifically detailed and
outllnc~ In the blldqp.t. I'1r. Norman f1~id th^t l^ndscðpinq the parkin9
lot that p~lic^n B^y Is constructinq is part of thp.lr program. Mr.
Normðn said that the two nfor~m('ntion~d rarks could be deleted and a
new lIne item fiet up for b~~ch access he~uttftcatton and only $~~,OOO
~ould he tr~n~ferred out of fund 10~ ~nd that ~ln,nnO could be loft fOf
the new line itrm. Thr. Conntß51onl'trs IIqror.d that would bit ðcceptahle.
ConmlRcloner rlctor not~d that the Sl\lnrles under County Cornmis-
oion hðvc qono up In" and ~r. Nor~an explained that would rofloct
cx"ctly the wa'Jl' IInd 6.,1/IfY ~d1u5tmcnt nnc.1 thllt the ðclul1l pny would
rrflrct the p~y th~t is currently in rxistence. 110 said thnt the
posItion of S~crrt3ry to th~ ro~rd w~s ~dðed ~ft~r th~ curr~nt fiscal
year bp.qDn ðnd there hnve h~cn Rome w~~~ ndjustments that hðve occurred
during the' cour5C of the YCl1r. H~ si'lid thðt the ch~nqe in numhers
bctwren the /ldoptN\ bu<1q"t for the current ynðr /lr.d the proposed budqet
for np.xL Ye'Dr doe'~ not reflect /In incrr/lso ov("r the currcnt sðlary.
Commlg~ioner Pi~tor 9/1irl there secms to he ð vnriation hetwecn the
estlm"tecl cost per ",!lp. ror motor pool rr!",hurflcmt'nt trom 71 ccnts pcr
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mile to 2S cents per milo. Mr. Norman onid th~t nIl tho vehiclos hnvo
been divIdcrl into [our cl~nGo8, 8ub-co~pnct, compact, full s1zo CArs,
and henvy duty pIck-up trucks n~,1 that each clnss has a different
mileage rntc ba£cd on actual cnlculntiona of what it C03tg to opcrate
the vp.hicle.
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Commissioner rlQtor referred to p]~nn1n~, Coli], which shows a 40\
incrc~s~ in snl~rles nnd asked if that wns a rcsult of adding pcople to
the dcr~rtmcnt, to which ~r. Norman said th~t wns for two persons added
in thR PI~nnIng ~epartn~nt. He rcfcrrt'd to ~xhibit n which indicatos
chðngcG of actunl par~onncl. ~r. Virta said'that he has suqqested a
rcor~nnizntlon to move ona parson dircctly under hiQ supervision to the
Plðnn1n~ ~r~rtm~nt nnd one to the curr~nt 70nInq Dp.p~rtmftnt.
ConmillRloncr PIstor !.i"id th/Jt, under pcstaCJo, the lImount qoes from
$8,000 to 59(,.00 lInd Mr. Virta said thnt is ^ reflection of the trans-
far functions along with the rp.orqanizðtion and that the amounts have
not gone down hut have heen put into other departments.
Rcapond!nq to Commlnsloncr pistor, !-'Ir. 11~11 said that with the
chðngo5 Identified the budget is b~Janc~d and nny additional cxþendi-
turcs th~t would be Identified would havo to come out of oithcr reduced
expenditures somcwh~re elsc or out of rescrv~s and that ðny furth~r
CutD in nny oxpenditures would ðdd to the reserves.
Commisslonor Plstor fi~id, reqardlnq the ~PO. that ðpproxJm~l~ly
$33~0.on in expected from the CIty of N~pl~B, S~,non fro~ the Rt^te and
thðt tho totnl cost is hl~hcr nnd he ask~d if tho County would p~y the
rcmðlning amount, to which Mr. Virt^ cxplnlncd that the funding ratio
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on thn MPO in RO' Federal, 10\ State nnd apllt on the local level on
tho boois of populðtion.
CommiG~ioner Kruse referred to ~mbulancc and gðrb~ge rp.vcnuos ðnd
~aid th~t if sOMething goeR wrong with either on" of those Indicntionø
it would ðffcct tho total budget. ~r. Normnn snid that lant month tho
colloctions for EMS wore RAt which is ~n improvoment. Commlsnionor
piRtor s~lc1 that hn felt ~r. Wampler nn~ ~r. Gre~nfield tlro ðoing a
good job.
~r. \lnll ~xplain~d that, if the Oonrd is In agreement with tho
changoD mtld~ at thi9 meeting, ho would recalculato th" millage and that
tho G~n~r~l fund will go down by about " nnd Fund 175 will go up a
comp/lrnblð "mount. lie !J.,ld that the ncxt stop would be for the
ChnIrMan to ~iqn the C~rtificntIon of Mill~qes nnd that, Included on
that cortificntion Is the d~te, tIme ~nd placo of the first public
he"rinq.
Commissioner Brown moved, seconded by Commissioner Wenzel and
carried un.,nlmously, that tho Boord adopt the tentðtlve budget wl~~ the
chnnqos mode this dote and the resulting ml1lages.
Commissioner Wenz~l moved, seconded by Commissioner Brown and
carriod unanimoußly, that the public hearing for the budget be
scheduled for Septembor 14, 1982 ðt 7100 r.M. in the Courthouse.
Mr. 11<'111 ! "id th.'lt he tI~suMed tho Sc"ImfJ p.,ttcrn as ll'lflt Yo(lr would
be followed with the Gencrðl Fund and rolnted funds scheduled first,
followed hy c~ch of the ~ST'S, ~nd th~t the first p~rt of tho public
hCðring would con~l~t of n d1acusRlon of how tho ~onrd is spnndlnq the
6ðlH8 t~x which ia outlined in tho torwnrd of the tentntive budqot. He
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said, for the record, for county-wide funds tho Doard Is uslnq IS' of
tho 40\ of th~ Gðlcs t~x for rlircct t~X r~~uct10n and tho other OS\ in
tho Unincorporl\ted Fund. lie sðid th~t ðll of the (;{\" is huc1<1tJted in
tho county-wide funds for d~bt service for capitol improvement.
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Th"rc bcinq no further buainesß for tho qood of the County, the
budget worknhop ness10n wns ac1journed by Ordcr of the Chair - Tlmft
111151\.M.
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