BCC Minutes 08/19/1987 B
Naples, Flor ida, Augus~ ':l~, 1987
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County Commissioners in
and for the County of Collier, and also acting as the Board of Zoning
Appeals and as the governing board(s) of such special districts as
have been created according to law and having conducted business
herein, met on this date at 9:00 A.M. in BUDGET WORKSHOP SBSSIOK in
Building "F" of the Government Center, East Naples, Florida, with the
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CHAIRMAN:
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VICE-CHAIRMAN: Arnold Lee Glass
John A. Pistór
Burt L. Saunders
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Maureen Kenyon, Deputy Clerk; Neil DorrHl, County
Lori Zalka, Budget Director; Jennifer Pike, Stan Litsinger,
Gansel, Budget Analysts; James ç. Giles, Clerk; Bob Best,
íFiscal'Analyst: Ken Cuyler, County Attorney; Sheriff Aubrey Rogers::
Deputy Chief Don Hunter, Sheriff's Department.
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Budget Analyst Pike referred to Page A-6 which represents the cost
of court appointed attorneys and expert witnesses, adding that these
expenses were funded in the Clerk's budget in the past, but since the
costs are controlled by the judges, the Clerk has asked that it be
transferred to the General Fund.
In reply to Commissioner Pistor, Clerk Giles stated that he does
not have a lot of control on this expense, adding that if the Judge
orders it to be paid, it is simply processed through his office. He
stated that he would like to Bee it listed under the Supervision of
the.Courts, but he has recommended that it be in the general fund
because there is not much sense in transferring the money to his fund
and then him paying the expense because it does not relate to his
operation at all. He noted that part of the reason that it was put
und~r him is because there are 5-1/2 judge positions and each deciding
where expert witnesses are needed but there was no central coor-
dination so it was put under him because no one judge ,is:responsible.
Budget Analyst Pike referred to Page B-1 under the Constitutional
Officor8 section which represents the budget for activities that are
related to the Clerk of the Board function. She stated that there is
a 11.9% increase in appropriations and the expanded services request
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$5,400; microfilm equipment for financing and accounting for $5,000:
data processing equipment for financing and accounting as well as
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and records in the ~mount of $12,600; and software for
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Budget Analyst Pike referred to Page B-3 which represents the
activities related to the circuit Court function which
shows an 8.7% decrease in expenses due to reorganization. She stated
new department was de'leloped called R8cordinq and special ser-
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directly by the Board, adding that these departments were transported
to,fee supported.
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Budget Analyst Pike stated that Page B-4 shows the expandedser-
vices for this section which is an $18,500 request for one full time
~osition in Probate; $2,300 request for office furniture and equipment
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:~equip~ent in administration: $14,500 for microfilm equipment; and
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Services, which includes the Recording Department, marriage licenses
and passports, and records management. She stated that there are two
~expanded requests within this department: onc is for $17,300 for a
'full-time position in the recording section and $30,000 for a
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and the addition of one records technician position for records mana-
gement.
Budget Analyst Pike referred to Page B-6 which represents the
Clerk of county Court section of the budget, adding that there is a
decrease in expenses because this is the department from which
marriage licenses and passports was moved. She stated that there is
also a decrease in the assigned revenues in the MSTD funds but an
increase in the assigned revenues to the general fund, which is the
revenues from court fines and costs that are being transferred to the
general fund to reflect the cost of the courts function.
Ms. Pike stated that Page B-7 represents the criminal JU8tioe
Information System and there is no significant change. She stated
that Page B-8 is the fund summary for the Clerk's budget which shows a
11% total appropriation increase and a 24% increase in fees.
Clerk Giles stated that there has been over a 20% activity
increase in the recording section this year which is the reason for
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the extra fees, adding that there is another position being asked for
in recording to help handle this volume. He noted that there are also
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high increases in the traffic and misdemeanor area which he may have
to discuss with the Board at a later date. He stated that it is his
understanding that the life and health insurance premium for next year
should be increased, adding that it is not shown in his budget and he
would like the actual amount included.
Budget Director Zalka stated that there is a reserve in the
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fund for health insurance based on the 20% increase that is
projected, adding that she is requesting permission that this be allo-
cated to each of the Constitutional Officers' budget and make changes
to it before it is adopted in October. She noted that she has suf-
ficient money in the reserve to cover the entire 20% increase.
Clerk Giles stated that he has followed the 4.5% guidelines on
øalary adjustments, adding that he did not realize the Personnel
Department was doing a salary survey over the last few months. He
:~,noted that he would have gladly joined in because he has had turnover
of his clerical people. He noted that the Personnel Department has an
average of 5.5% instead of 4.5%, adding that the Personnel Department
does not want averages portrayed because the intent is not to grant
everyone an average 5.5% increase but he would like some equity in the
situation if the extra percentage is being given to the County
employees. He noted that this puts him at a disadvantage and there is
also a morale factor involved when his employees do not receive simi-
lar increases. He indicated that the clerical people in the Executive
S~mmary that was presented last week by the Personnel Department have
been recommended to receive a 7% increase. He stated that there is a
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8 few other positions in addition to the 4.5%. He stated that
does not get close to whet the County is doing, he has
*,{disgruntled employees.
In answer to Commissioner Pistor, Clerk Giles stated that for the
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constitutional officers follow that is up to them because: they
to manage their employees.
Commissioner Pistor stated that the other constitutional officers
done what they wanted to do, adding that if there is something
that was overlooked in Mr. Giles' budget, it is unfortunate and it has
to be corrected.
Clerk Giles stated that in March, he lists what he is currently
paying his people and what he has available at this point is like a '
4~2' increase but when he gets a turnover in a department, he has to
re-examine that department and a few people have been given raises,
but hè is still locked into a very detailed budget. He stated that
4.5% is a little on the meager side when one looks at what other
governments are paying. He stated that he feels that the salary sur-
~:.:..~eys should be well documented and discussed in a workshop and done
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. before the pay policy is adopted and it should also involve all people
is equity around the courthouse. He stated that he is
!:~implY asking for parity in what the County is doing with their
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Budget Director Zalka stated that she will follow the Board's
instructions and make a proposal at the wrap-up.
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that there is an 18.7' increase in personnel services ~nd this is
addressed in the expanded request. She noted that ,her.e is $45,500
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for upgrading of several positions and the addition of one programmer
analyst position. She noted that there is an overall increase of
in this budget.
Clerk Giles stated that these positions are the professional
:people and not the clerical people. He indicated that there has been
~. lótof turnover in the Data Processing Department and the salaries
have to be upgraded because it is difficult to attract people with
same capabilities because they are making more elsewhere.
Budget Analyst Pike stated that the other expanded service
'requests are for four Vaxmate Microcomputers in the amount of $18,400
and $9,200 for ten terminal workstations.
Commissioner Pistor stated that Mr. Giles and his staff have done.
, an excellent job, adding that the increases are minimal. He noted
that what is needed to keep this County going at the rate that,it is
is growing has been very conservative on the efforts of Mr. Giles.,
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Budget Analyst Gansel referred to Page A-l which represents a' " ,~';~
'total increase of 14. 8t and is for $319,000. She stated that: under 'i.' 'f'"
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of the receptionist position to a secretary, the increase for,elected
officials salaries which is based on State law, the increase for tra-
vel, and the increase for memberships and dues.
total budget for travel is $14,000.
She noted that the
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Commissioner Pistor stated that the Taxwatch Committee has made
comments regarding the $7,000 in the budget for contributions to
various groups, adding that he feels that this money should be left in
thè'budget.
Cómmissioner Hasse stated that he feels that this is a modest sum
.. end should be left in the budget.
Commissioner Goodnight stated that with regards to the amount for
travel, she would like to see it approved by policy that the
Commissioners have the right to attend the State Association or
Association meetings. She stated that if there were other
meetings that the Commissioners wants to attend, they would have to
get prior approval, but there should be a policy to cover the State
and National meetings.
Commissioner Hasse stated that he does not see anything wrong with
Commissioners coming to the Board and asking for approval for
~:hese meetings, adding that this way the Commission knows where other
"fellow Commissioners will be.
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,brought up during a regular meeting and have the Commission vote on
matter.
Commissioner Saunders indicated that he thinks that it would bee
good idea to have a policy that would cover the National Association
of Counties meeting and the Florida State Association of Counties;,
end asked that Mrs. Israelson present an Executive Summary to
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ðppear on a regular board agenda in the up60ming weeks. He noted that
any other meetings would have to be approved by the Commission on an
individual basis.
¡County Attorney's BUdget
": Budget Analyst Gansel referred to Page A-2 which represents the
'County Attorney's budget and shows a 21.4\ increase. She stated that
the major increase in current services is that the Growth Management
attorney is being budgeted under the County Attorney as opposed to the
;Growth Management budget. She noted that there is also an 8' salary
adjuatment included in current services, and there ie a $lO,OOO
increase in contrectual services. She noted that there
services which includes upgrading of computers, corporate information
,computer link-up and microfilming records.
In answer to Commissioner Hesse, County Attorney Cuyler stated
that he cannot keep competent qualified experienced attorneys at 4.5'
increase a year. He noted that when someone has their degree and an
additional three years for a law degree plus 5 to 6 years general
. legal experience, it is difficult to keep those people with a 4.5'
increase. He stated that an 8\ increase is the absolute minimum. He
noted that the marketplace dictates that certain types of increases be
given to certain professional people. He noted that the benefits and
, the increase in salary is all that the attorney can hope for as the
County does not have a system where there is a bonus or a big case
¡, walkis ¡ through the door.
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Commissioner Saunders questioned tf an additional attorney i~
hired for Growth Management, is there sufficient secretarial support
available, to which County Attorney Cuyler stated that there is a
Growth Management secretary and his office will pick up any additional
work that is necessary.
,other General Admini.trative
Budget Analyst Gansel stated that the next item in the budget is
on Page A-4, Other General Administrative, which is a new insert. ¡She
noted that th~ reason for the change in this budget is the result of
prior Commission action, adding that the employee Christmas party and
the summer bash was deleted and will show up in the Human Resources
Budget. She stated that the revised budget shows a 6.1\ increase
adding that there are two items that account for the increase in this
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::this budget for Everglades City who is responsible to the Clerk. He
't¡tat~d,that there has been questions,as to whether it is. necessa~y,to
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she takes care of the Library and that is where she is housed, and she
takes care of things for Clerk Giles, and takes taxes and sells
license plates.
Clerk Giles stated that an estimate was given of the time spent on
the different activities: 20\ spent on Clerk's activities and a large
percentage of time has to do with the Library and the Tax Collector.
He noted that of any position in the County, this is the closest one
to the category of other general administrative because it is basi-
,cally a mini courthouse in Evergledes City run by one person. He
stated that he does not know how a reimbursement would be worked out
from the Tax Collector or if it is worth all the paperwork. He stated
that she is not doing servicp.~ for the City, it is for the County.
Commissioner Goodnight stated that she is definitely needed in
Everglades because there is also someone in that office, adding that
they purchase license tags, get library books, buy fishing licenses,
pay taxes, etc. She stated that if that position is taken out, they
will have to come to Naples for everything and they will not be
receiving the services that they are entitled to receive as part of
Collier County.
,Budget Director Zalka stated that if the budget was split by per-
centage,. the.same effect would occur, adding that it would still be
cost~ngtheGeneral Fund and a lot of bookkeeping would be created.
. She stated that it needs to be decided who the person should report to
and put it in the budget in one place.
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Clerk Giles stated thet if the person does not show up for work or
any type of problem occurs, his office catches the burden of it. He
etated that he has been handling it because it was the only practical
way to go.
,;: Clerk Giles stated that with regards ,to the auditing fees :that dB'
in 'this 'budget, he 'thinks that they are low. He stated that,there'is
$llS,OOO budgeted for next year and the last conversation he had with
the auditors they were asking for around $131,000 and besides that
amount, they want to use the internal auditor a lot more extensively
than previouSly used. He stated that he will be presenting the
options to the Board of County Commissioners next week and he will
probably recommend that the Board counter-offer and if it is not
accepted, then they would request authority to negotiate with the
second ranked firm.
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Sheriff's Department in preparing a very professional well documented
budget as well as being very cooperative during the entire process.
He noted that in reviewing the Sheriff's budget, it was found that
approximately 35% of the Sheriff's current staff is in a category
that is considered not involved in on-the-street law enforcement
efforts. He noted that the Budget Office has included officers ranked
Captain and above, clerical, communications, crossing guards, service ~ .
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fairly high. He indicated that in the past four years, the County
, population has grown by about 28% but the Sheriff's budget has grown
four times that much. He stated that according to the Florida
; Association of Sheriff's, the average certified deputies to l,OOO
population in Florida is about 1.7 and using population projections
for Collier County for the coming year, the Sheriff'~ proposed budget
'and the recommended positions that they show would give the Sheriff
1.71 deputies per 1,000 population. He indicated that the budget
office had to find somê common ground taking into consideration that
they felt that the Sheriff's Department at the current service level
was both well staffed and well equipped to meet the law enforcement
needs of the County. He stated that in order to support expanded ser-
vice again this year, they had to limit their support only, to direct
law enforcement personnel. He referred to Page B-9 which represents
the Law Enforcement Department, noting that the Sheriff is proposing
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increase of positions of 43 which is an overall increase in his
budget of 13.3% over the current yeer. He stated that on Page B-10,
there is a $122,000 increese in personal services attributable to the
phase-in of five new positions during the present fiscal year, adding
that these five new positions ere included in the 48 expanded service
requests that the Sheriff proposes for next year. He stated that
there have been decreases in operating expenses and also significant
decreases in the current service request in the capital outlay area
procurements in the present fiscal year. He noted that
Page B-ll shows the summery of the Sheriff's proposed expanded service
request, adding that the Sheriff has outlined each individual request
and ~he total cost. He indicated that there are also Budget Office
recommendations on this page and in each case, the Budget Office is
recommending positions related to direct law enforcement on the street
and support personnel is not being recommended at this time.
Sheriff Rogers stated that he has tried to abide by the guidelines
as far as the salaries are concerned. He stated that he does not feel
~' that the salary increases are sufficient to attract and keep good
,qualified people. He noted-that Collier County is one of the, highest
of living counties and the State employees get extra pay incen-
tive for living in Collier County. He indicated that this should be
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best position to know his needs and his workloads. He stated that the
comparison of Collier County with all the other counties is not
accurate as the other police agencies are not taken into con-
sideration. He stated that this is a large county and Naples Police
Department polices 12 square miles and he polices the rest. Hestated
that some counties have as meny as 15 police departments that share in
the cost. He noted that the Sheriff's Department in Collier County
pays all their rent, utilities, and maintenance of buildings, adding
that most other sheriff's departments do not have that in their
budgets. He noted that Lee County has self-insurance and they do not
have to carry the insurance cost that he carries. He indicated that
the only way that this Sheriff's Department can be compared with
,others is with a line item budget to find out what they are paying
for, what their total budget is, and what their responsibilities ,are.
He noted that a detailed study has been made over the last two years, ,
adding that this Co~nty is different than other counties. He indi-
cated that he works 60% of the traffic accidents in Collier County
because he does not have enough State troopers to do it. He noted
that all these factors needs to be taken into consideration when
making a comparison. He noted that if, he had a police department, in
Immokalee, one in Marco and one in Golden Gate, he would not need this
: much, money or this many people, but the taxpayers would still be ,
paying for law enforcement. He noted that the recommendations of the
'Budget Office does not take all these issues into consideration.
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Commissioner pistor stated that Collier County's unincorporated
area is going to pay the increase for the City Police, adding that
there will be a surcharge put on the unincorporated area residents
that use city water. He indicated that a higher salary could take
personnel away from the Sheriff's Department because of his salary
Sheriff Rogers stated that they prepared their budget based on
guidelines and the salary is not enough to attract people, adding that
during this budget process, some adjustments should be made.
Commissioner Goodnight stated that the road patrol people are only
receiving $16,200 and in Immokalee there are 8 or 9 vacancies and some
of the patrolmen are working double duty or the roads do not have
enough deputies on them. She stated that she would like to see the
readdressed before the budget is finalized. She stated that
road deputies are the most important as far as crime control.
Commissioner Saunders stated that he agrees with the Sheriff with
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the paperwork and it takes a lot of clerks to keep up with the reports
and the time constraints that are involved. He stated that he knows
what his problems are in dealing with those areas.
r" Commissioner Hasse questioned if there are any areas in this
budget out of the 29 areas that could be minimized one way or the
other? He stated that he does not want to cut down on law enforèement
but would like to possibly revisit some of the areas that may be able
to be cut somewhat.
" Sheriff Rogers stated that this year he did his budget a little
;different, adding thal he cut everything that he
budget came to the Board. He stated that he hes cut as far ,back as
'can.
Commissioner Saunders stated that he feels that possibly the
that the Board needs to deal with are the ones that the Budget Office
has msde recommendations to delete.
Budget Director Zalka stated that there are a lot of vacancies in
law enforcement officers and this would be an opportune time to
discuss whether or not the County wants to spend money on hiring more
officers versus paying more to existing officers. She stated that
this item is flexible snd decisions could be made on this issue. She
noted that the Sheriff has prepared his budget based on the guidelines
of the 4.5% increase, but in prior yeers, law enforcement officers
have gotten increases above and beyond those guidelines. She, stated
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or if it was also applied to the entry rates and they went up
accordingly also.
Sheriff Rogers steted that there is a local bill that ties their
salaries to the Florida Highway Patrol which has been used for many
years, but they have recently tried to go along with what the County
guidelines are. He noted that if the starting salary is not kept up,
no one will apply for the job to start with. He noted that the
department is big and adjusting salaries has to be done in bits and
pieces due to the high cost that it would involve. He stated that as
far as paying more money and having less officers, it is still not
going to replace the people that are needed on the streets, adding
that the level of officers has to be kept to respond to the
complaints, and to keep them, they have to be paid. He noted that as
of last Friday, the courts requested that another bailiff be assigned
to them which is not in the budget. He noted that some things happen
after the budget is adopted and they try to edjust to them.
'Budget Analyst Litsinger stated that in the Law Enforoement
Department, there is a total request of 43 positions for Sl.B million
these 43 positions, 18 are phase-ins throughout the fiscal
year. He noted that there is a request for $8,000 for a media rela-'
tlons specialist to be phased-in on July 1st of next year, but the
actual yearly cost of that position is approximately $32,000. He
noted that he will cover the expanded service request for which the
Budget Office disagrees with the Sheriff's Department. He noted that
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the media relations specialist is an assistant services ðivision
deputy clerk that prepares press releases, handles media relations
coverage on weekends, correlates press conferences, supervises pilot
programs, provides additional liaison with County Disaster Preparedness
and also responsible for all investigations excepts narcotics.
Deputy Chief Hunter stated that the only additional task would be
to work on special projects within that particular division of the
8gency. He noted that Mr. Ray Barnett is handling this at the time
and his responsibilities require that he perform other duties at a
division level other than providing for direct services such as those
previously mentioned.
Sheriff R6gers stated that this is a major undertaking to dear" :
with these things and when Mr. Barnett is in the Commission meeting'on
Tuesdays someone else has to handle this. He noted that Mr. Barnett
cannot work 7 days a week and handle his other functions. He noted
that if he had to pick priorities, this is not enforcing the law and
is a position he would have to let go, but he feels that it is
necessary and he knows how many events there are and major Cases that
have occurred ðnd whðt they go through in trying to deal with the
press. He noted that the press has a right to be there, they have the
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Deputy Chief Hunter stated that with regards to the Budget Offi-
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which equates to 1.0 deputies per 1,000 population. He noted
the investigators and the patrol personnel are added in, it
to 1.5 deputies per 1,000 population. He noted that the
requires of the managers and administrators~ lieutenants and,
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'In their districts and wi thin their divisions.
'Commissioner Hasse questioned if the media relations specialist
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the $1.8 million that the Sheriff is asking for with, regards,.to
positions, he feels that the Sheriff is the one that knows best,
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n:::ommurtity:~md the Board to establish what level, is acceptab],~.! ¡",
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Commissioner Saunders questioned what the impact would be on the
ad valorem taxes and the millage rate or percentage increase if the
Sheriff's entire budget of $1.8 million is approved, to which Budget
Director Zalka stated that the county-wide tax increase would be 18.5'
and is based on funding the tentative budget which is the entire
request made by the Sheriff's office, as well as everything else in
,the whole budget.
. BUdget Director Zalka stated that the recommended budget is,based
on not funding the million that the Budget Office recommends as well
as not funding the capital reserve so that the 18.5' increase goes
down to .1% decrease, adding that when it is split out, excluding capi-
tar, there is about a 3' increase county-wide for the rest of the
budget. She stated that what is actually being referred to is the,
difference between no tax increase and a 3 or 4' tax increase. She
stated that the BUdget Office's recommendation is no tax increase.
Budget Analyst ~itsinger stated that the $886,000 that is being
'recommended by the Budget Office for the Sheriff's Department bUdget
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a 6' increase in tax dollars and if the tentative budget for the
Sheriff in the amount of $886,000 was approved, it would mean about a
3' increase in tðX dollars.
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/l·à polygraph operator that could posslbly be deleted if the bill that
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budget represents what is required in Collier County, adding that he
feels that this budget should be approved as it is. He noted that,
there ere certain things that are de~anded like law enforcement '
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proper job the people will remember that. He noted that there are
,some people in the community that think it is a lot of money to be
~:' spent; but Collier County has a lot of needs and there is also that,
:'~ftremendOu8¡lnflUX from other areas of criminal elements; He 'stated
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Commissioner Pistor stated that he would also concur with the
frécommendation that this budget be approved as it is.
·'~""Commissioner Saunders stated that he would also concur with this'
budget, adding that if the Sheriff's budget is out of line, the voters
at the appropriate time. He stated that the, ' ",',~11
has to rely on Sheriff Rogers and Mr. Hunter wheh'i~bofues
knowing'what their needs are. He stated that he would ask that,the
take e look at 80me of the new positions between' nòw 8nd','the
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conclusion of the budgeting process and if there are some that can be
eliminated, he would ask that this be done. He stated that with
regards to the number of officers that are needed to develop a level
Of service, the Commission has to rely on the Sheriff's Department~
Commissioner Goodnight stated that she agrees with Sheriff Rogers'
'budget, adding that she feels that the deputies should be on the 50% '
availability level regardless of who is criticizing the budget. She
noted that once these people need assistance from the Sheriff's
Department, they will not criticize the budget anymore.
Commissioner Glass moved, seoonded by Commissioner Saunders and
carried unanimously, that the consensus i. to approve the Sheriff'.
budqet.
Budget Analyst Litsinger referred to pege B-13, detention and
corrections, noting that this shows an increase of 5 positions with a
'total increase of 11.6% for $187,000. He noted that the expanded ser-~
vice request consists of one additional jailer, deputy sergeant, one
clerk typist, one p~rt-time clerk typist, one x-ray technician and one
nurse as well as $64,000 f0r office furniture equipment and an automo-
bile. He stated that Page B-lS is the judicial or bailiff section
1n6ting that the Sheriff is asking for 16.4% increase. He noted that
there are no additional positions for expanded services, adding. that
the main reason for the increase is for increased overtimeexpen-
ditures. He noted that Page F-l is the Confisoated Property Trust
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investigations and provide additional technical equipment or expertise
or for such other law enforcement purposes as the Board or governing
body deems appropriate. He noted that there is a 30.1\ increase in
this particular budget for next yea~ due to carry forward funds,
adding that there are no identified spending plans as the money is
primarily in reserves. He indicated that there is $717,000 in reser-
, ves.
Deputy Chief Hunter stated that by State Statute, they are not
, allowed to project a budget for that fund, adding that he would have
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expended from that particular fund.
Budget Analyst Litsinger stated that Page F-5 is the Law Bnfor-
o...nt Trust Fund which shows a decrease of 54\ in revenues and expen-
Mr. Hunter stated that this fund will be amended as there
a problem with regards to the collections being put in the wrong
and it will be rectified and will probably show an increase.
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There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned by
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