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BCC Minutes 06/16/2016 B (Budget Workshop) BCC BUDGET MEETING MINUTES June 16, 2016 June 16, 2016 TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS Naples, Florida, June 16, 2016 BUDGET WORKSHOP LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County Commissioners, in and for the County of Collier, and also acting as the Board of Zoning Appeals and as the governing board(s) of such special districts as have been created according to law and having conducted business herein, met on this date at 9:00 a.m., in SPECIAL SESSION in Building "F" of the Government Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the following members present: CHAIRMAN: Donna Fiala Tom Henning Georgia Hiller Tim Nance Penny Taylor ALSO PRESENT: Leo Ochs, County Manager Nick Casalanguida, Deputy County Manager Mark Isackson, OMB Director Jeffrey A. Klatzkow, County Attorney Page 1 NOTICE OF PUBLIC MEETING Notice is hereby given the Board of County Commissioners of Collier County will conduct Budget Workshops Thursday, June 16, 2016 and Friday, June 17, 2016, if necessary, at 9:00 a.m. Workshops will be held in the Boardroom, 3rd Floor, W. Harmon Turner Building, Collier County Government Center, 3299 Tamiami Trail East, Naples, Florida to hear the following: COLLIER COUNTY GOVERNMENT BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FY 2017 BUDGET WORKSHOP SCHEDULE Thursday, June 16, 2016 AGENDA General Overview Courts and Related Agencies (State Attorney and Public Defender) Growth Management Public Services Administrative Services Public Utilities Debt Service Management Offices (Pelican Bay) County Attorney BCC (Community Redevelopment Agencies, Airport) Constitutional Officers: Elections Clerk of Courts Sheriff Other Constitutional Officers requesting to address the BCC Public Comment Page 1 June 16,2016 June 16, 2016 CHAIRMAN FIALA: Will everyone please take their seats. Thank you. Are any other commissioners here yet; do you know? MR. OCHS: Good morning, Commissioners. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Good morning. MR. OCHS: I think that Commissioner Taylor is a bit delayed this morning. She had to make a quick stop over at the Naples Airport Authority meeting. She had a few remarks that she had to make, and then she said she would be here shortly after 9 o'clock. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Great, great. MR. OCHS: So I expect her momentarily. CHAIRMAN FIALA: And I'm sure Commissioner Henning's on his way as well. MR. OCHS: I hope so. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Yeah. Okay. With that, Mr. Ochs -- MR. OCHS: Thank you. CHAIRMAN FIALA: -- will you please take over? General Overview MR. OCHS: Commissioners, good morning and welcome to your Fiscal Year 2017 annual budget workshop. As is our custom each year at these workshops, I'll make a few opening remarks about the budget, and then we will move into individual presentations by your court system representatives, your county manager agency department representatives, and then in the afternoon you'll hear from your constitutional officers on their budget request. So if I might just begin, Commissioners. Again, the budget process for the county staff begins every year with an assessment of your long-range strategic plan. All of our budget allocations and program and service requests are intended to align with these six Page 2 June 16, 2016 primary strategic focus areas. These are long-range planning objectives that we then convert into five-year business plans in each of our major operating units, and then cascade into annual operating plans and work programs. In addition, the FY 17 budget has been developed in the context of a local economy and local economic conditions that I'm pleased to say have continued to improve over time since the great recession of the mid 2000s. I think that is evidenced by some of the following indicators on this slide. You will see that countywide taxable values increased almost 10 percent. That's a continuing trend over the last five years of positive growth in taxable value. Your taxable sales in the county are up year over year over 5 percent. Median home prices have increased 16 percent from April of 15 to April of'16. Sales tax and state-shared revenues continue to be strong and have a forecasted positive outlook from the state Revenue Estimating Conference for the next few years. Your peak season visitation April 2016 is down slightly year over year, but still continues a strong upward trend over time. Your permitting activity for construction continues to grow year over year. The increase is about 5 percent year over year from May of'15 through May of'16. Unemployment rate has dropped by half of a percent year over year. So these are all, I think, positive economic indicators of continued growth in the local economy. And while we're pleased with that growth, we have to understand that there are many outside factors that can influence or change that in the future, and we continue to budget at a conservative level to make sure that we're ready for those contingencies if they arise. Page 3 June 16, 2016 A couple of the important budget outcomes and features of your proposed 2017 budget. First and foremost, this budget meets the budget guidance that this board provided to the staff late February of this year. It's maintains a millage neutral tax rate for your General Fund. It provides a reset of your Unincorporated Area General Fund tax rate consistent with the discussion that this board had previously in the year to restart the median landscape program that had been deferred during the recession on improved county collector roads. We continue to increase and place an emphasis on your General Fund and in Unincorporated Area General Fund reserves. Your principal debt and annual debt service continues to decline. You do have expanded service requests for additional personnel in your FY 17 budget as we continue to try to meet the service demands of a growing public. State and federal mandates have been addressed and are fully funded. There's been an increase of five million dollars over what was budgeted in 2016 to continue to attempt to address the capital maintenance and replacement -- excuse me -- backlog that occurred during the recession, and we are pleased to report that we have dollars earmarked again this year towards the backlog of vehicle and heavy equipment replacement. And we have a modest proposed adjustment to employee compensation in 2017. Commissioners, as I mentioned, the charts on this slide indicate the rollercoaster ride that we've been on with taxable value countywide. You can see the precipitous decline from 2008 through 2012, and then over the last five fiscal cycles you've seen an upward trend in taxable value in both the General Fund and the Unincorporated Area General Fund, taxable values for county. This slide just reminds the Board of the millage rate history on both your General Fund and your Unincorporated Area General Fund. The General Fund millage rate remains at 3.5645. Your Page 4 June 16, 2016 Unincorporated Area General Fund in 2017 is proposed at .8069. That's a reset to the levy and the Unincorporated Area in FY07. Let's talk about a few of the highlights of the 2017 budget. Again, you have a millage neutral tax rate and an increasingly tax -- excuse me -- increasing taxable value environment will net about a $24.3 million increase in General Fund property tax receipts. Your Unincorporated Area General Fund tax dollars have grown about $7.3 million; 3 million of that is earmarked for ongoing operations and capital projects, and 4.3 has been earmarked specifically to restart the median landscape program that we were forced to defer during the great recession. As I mentioned, we do have planned growth in frontline services with expanded County Manager services totaling about $5.1 million. We are proposing an increase of 78 new FTE; 22 of those are existing job bank employees that have consistently worked over 30 hours a week. Because of the changes in the national Affordable Health Care Act, that law requires now that any employee that works 30 hours or more must be offered health insurance or face strict penalties, rather severe penalties for noncompliance. As a result, we had been budgeting this current year that health insurance allocation for these job bank employees. Now, these are not supplemental personnel. These are employees that are essential to the ongoing operation of our county government, and we try to recognize those. It is a very marginal increase, less than $1,000 per person per year, to bring those people on as full-time employees. Again, general government, new capital and replacement spending is in excess of$40 million. There's an emphasis on continuing to maintain and improve your transportation network, your stormwater system, your park infrastructure, governmental facilities, Page 5 June 16, 2016 all the while placing high priority on continued public safety infrastructure needs, including your replacement of the 800 megahertz public safety radio system that you previously approved, as well as replacements of your frontline ambulances, and a set-aside continues to replace your Medevac helicopter next year. Commissioners, we've talked about your backlog of capital assets and facilities. And there was a discussion during budget guidance to try to allocate additional funds towards the backlog beyond what we had budgeted in FY2016, and this slide is a depiction of the fact that we've allocated $25 million, a $5 million increase towards the backlog capital projects while not increasing the total allocation for your backlog and your growth-related capital program in 2017, and we will get into some of the specifics on this as we go through your budget. I mentioned the position count. You can see that in the expanded column, the second column from the right on this slide on 2017, the majority of your position increases are in public services. Most of those, as I mentioned, 20 of those are the conversions of your job bank employees that work in that particular department, and the balance primarily in your enterprise funds, both in public utilities and growth management, the cost of those FTE are fully covered by fees for service in those two enterprise operations. I also mentioned that the Board had authorized during the budget guidance discussions in the spring a 3 percent general wage adjustment for county workforce. That totals about $3.4 million and is incorporated into your FY 17 budget. I think it's important in an improving economy where there's more competition than ever in the private sector for talented individuals, that we maintain a competitive position so we don't lose our best talent. In terms of healthcare, again, because of this board's strong Page 6 June 16, 2016 emphasis on a healthcare program that features wellness and preventative care, we have been able to continue to control our costs of health insurance to our workforce and, therefore, there is no premium increase proposed for FY17, and your program is funded at an actuarially determined premium level, fully funded with no increase in premiums. We continue the traditional premium allocation split of 80 percent employer and 20 percent employee pay for your agency as well as the Clerk of Courts and the Supervisor of Election personnel. Commissioners, the net county budget is slightly over a million (sic) dollars for FY17. You can see the bar chart that indicates the growth trends and declines over time from FY07 through projected FY17. This is a breakdown in one of your traditional pie charts of where that billion dollars comes from. You can see 30 percent or 31 percent is ad valorem taxes, another 20 percent comes from service charges. About 6 percent in gas and sales taxes, and you have your beginning balance carryforward numbers. And where that money goes, this is a general breakdown between your county manager operations, your public utility enterprise operations, transfers to your constitutional officers for funding your debt service and, finally, your capital budget allocations equal about 25 percent of that billion-dollar budget. Let's talk about your General Fund budget this year. The FY17 General Fund budget is 385 million. That represents just slightly over a 7 percent increase from current FY2016. Still below the high of FY2007 by about $10 million. This is the pro forma of the changes in your General Fund from current year '16 to 2017. You can see that the bulk of that $24 million increase is divided between your operations at 10 million and the constitutional officer transfers at $12 million on the expense side. Page 7 June 16, 2016 The revenue side you see property tax revenue increases and sales tax increasing about $1.8 million with some reduction in your carryforward fund balance moving into 2017. General Fund reserves continue to grow. This board has placed an emphasis on making sure that you had appropriate reserve levels. You can see that reserves for 2017 in your General Fund will exceed $33 million, and I think the commission is to be congratulated for the continued emphasis on building your General Fund reserves even through the difficult economic times. Why is that important? It maintains a healthy corporate credit rating. The General Fund, of course, is the cash flow engine for all the other funds, protects our beginning cash balance, gives you flexibility to deal with unforeseen mandates and emergencies, and also the reserve fund for the constitutional officers. You're going to see why it's important to maintain a healthy reserve level. The Board had established specific floors and ceilings for various reserve funds, including your General Fund, your water and sewer utility, your building permit revenues, as well as your land development planning -- land planning reserves. You can see that most of these reserves are within the floor and ceiling levels established, and we can talk about each one of these as those departments present. Your outstanding principal debt continues to decline from a high of over 788 million in Fiscal Year '8 to projected 468 million in FY17. And also your debt service, as a ratio of your total bondable revenues, is 6.8 percent projected for FY17. That is well within the cap of 13 percent that's established by board policy. Let's take a look at your General Fund revenue sources. You can see that there continues to be a high reliance on your ad valorem property tax receipts as your primary source of funding for your Page 8 June 16, 2016 General Fund operations, sales tax contributes about 10 percent, and we get about $10 million or two and a half percent from state revenue sharing. And this is just another snapshot of some of the primary revenue sources in your General Fund. As we mentioned, ad valorem property receipts are up 24 million; sales tax, about 1.8 million; state revenue sharing is budgeted to increase by $800,000 in 2017; your gas tax estimates are up slightly, about a million one from the current year. Impact fees have increased almost $7 million as a result of all the new construction activity that's underway over the last year or so, and your General Fund carryforward or beginning fund balance is forecasted at $45.6 million. Let's turn now to your Unincorporated Area General Fund, your budget highlights there. Your overall Unincorporated Area General Fund is slightly over $53 million representing a 16.4 increase from the FY2016 budget. As was discussed in a workshop previously this year and reflected in this budget, your Unincorporated Area General Fund millage rate has been set at .8069. Almost 4.3 of that $7.3 million it's raised as a result of that millage change and reset has been earmarked specifically to restart your median landscape operation. We're also increasing transfers in the capital program, and we're going to see that, I think, as time goes on in your Unincorporated Area General Fund as growth continues to move from west to east and there's more reliance on the Unincorporated Area General Fund to help fund some of our capital improvements in the rural areas. This is the pro forma of your changes in the Unincorporated Area General Fund for 2017 on the expense side. You see the primary driver there is the restart of a median landscape capital program. And you see the two increments on the right-hand side of the slide on the revenue side. Those are dollars devoted both to Page 9 June 16, 2016 operations and the new capital landscape restart. This is a breakdown of your typical unincorporated area residential tax bill for 2017. This is something the Board has asked us to provide every year. It kind of breaks down all the government agencies and what their percentage of the total unincorporated area tax bill would look like: 44 percent in the school district, 20 percent for county general government operations, about 15 percent for constitutionals; you have seven and a half devoted to county MSTUs, 10 percent to independent fire districts, and smaller allocations to your water management and Big Cypress Basin, and your Mosquito Control District as well. Commissioners, as always, we conclude with a few budget challenges that we like to keep on the radar. As we've talked about in the past, in terms of the General Fund, we continue to have a very significant reliance on property tax and state-shared revenues, and we need to be cautious about how susceptible those can be to outside influence beyond the Board's immediate control. We continue to attempt to balance the competing priorities for discretionary dollars between capital investments, management of your assets, and continuing operations to deliver service as you've outlined and as your constituents expect. With respect to the question of the issuance of new debt, the 2017 budget does not recommend, as we begin the fiscal year, the issuance of any new debt; however, we'll continue to monitor that as we go through the year, and once we're assured of solid estimates on particular project costs and we know what the execution schedule is, we'll be able to talk to you in more detail during the year about those things. We want to continue to remain competitive in the employment market and also to make sure that we continue to maintain that balance of 80/20 in your health insurance allocations and would Page 10 June 16, 2016 suggest that you try to help us help the constitutional officers in our striking that balance to keep working towards those numbers. Again, we need to be cautious about unfunded mandates and cost shifting at the state and federal level. Also, with respect to future capital, as I mentioned earlier, we need to keep an eye on new capital requirements that will need to be funded out of your unincorporated area and continue to watch for potential erosion of the communication services tax, which is the other primary revenue source for your 111 unincorporated fund. And, finally, continue to balance the need and the desire to maintain sufficient levels of reserves while also acknowledging the need to fund growing operations and asset management. So, Commissioners, in conclusion, I would say that the FY 17 budget that has been proposed allows us to maintain our ability to deliver high-quality best-value services and programs to our residents, it allocates discretionary dollars to both your deferred capital maintenance and equipment replacement initiatives, as well as towards new growth-related capital improvements. We continue to build reserves in this budget, continue to retire general government and your Enterprise Fund debt levels. We've provided for a modest but well-deserved increase to wages and, finally, I think the budget provides you as a board the flexibility to quickly and effectively respond to unanticipated challenges or opportunities that may arise during the year with sufficient reserves to deal with any of those contingencies as they arise. So, Madam Chairman, that completes my general overview, and I'd be happy to take questions now, or we can hold those till we get into individual budget presentations. We have your outline in your agenda packet of which departments come in order. We typically begin with our court system. So if there's not any specific questions, we can move on to the Page 11 June 16, 2016 detailed presentations. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Commissioner Henning? COMMISSIONER HENNING: The FTEs, I think we had in 2008/2009 a peak before we started cutting positions. MR. OCHS: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER HENNING: It would be interesting to see at the peak what the population was versus what we have 2015 -- or 2016, proposed '17. MR. OCHS: Yes, sir. We'll get that for you this morning. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Commissioner Hiller? COMMISSIONER HILLER: The median cost of housing that you cited at the beginning of the presentation as 435,000, is that for all of Collier County, including the municipalities, or is that for unincorporated Collier County? MR. OCHS: I believe that's countywide, ma'am, including -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: Can you get me the number for unincorporated Collier County, please? MR. OCHS: Sure. All set. CHAIRMAN FIALA: That's it. MR. OCHS: Thank you. CHAIRMAN FIALA: So from here, Leo, where do we go? MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am. We're going to turn this over to Mr. Isackson to direct the presentations. MR. ISACKSON: Thank you, County Manager. The first up is our court system. Chuck and your crew, please. Courts and Related Agencies (State Attorney and Public Defender MR. RICE: Good morning, Ma'am Chair, and Commission. CHAIRMAN FIALA: How are you today? MR. RICE: That time of year again, I guess. It goes fast. Page 12 June 16, 2016 For the record, my name's Chuck Rice. I'm the Court Administrator here in Collier County. I'll introduce the people here with me. To my left is our Administrative County Judge, Judge Robert Crown. JUDGE CROWN: Good morning. MR. RICE: Our Public Defender, Kathleen Smith, to my right. MS. SMITH: Good morning. MR. RICE: And to her right is our State Attorney, Steven Russell. MR. RUSSELL: Hello. MR. RICE: You know, always, we like to thank Leo and his staff and Mark and everybody, and the Board for your continued support throughout the years, not only this year, but for many years with the court system. We're here happy to present a pretty straightforward budget with no expanded positions or programs. We're presenting a $5.2 million budget for basically a net cost to the General Fund right at $2 million, and we are budget compliant. I'll just make a few comments about the courts and then let Steve and Kathleen make a few comments about their agencies, and then we'll take some questions. But the courts have enjoyed another successful year. We have implemented -- fully implemented a criminal case management system and would like to thank the PD and the State Attorney's Office for their cooperation and work with that also. Basically what that does is put a case on a timeline, and we monitor that and try to meet those goals of that timeline. Our probation department is in the process of going paperless. We've implemented a lot of e-filing. Also we're reorganizing our magistrate department to make it more user friendly to the self-represented and also, you know, to the attorneys that use the Page 13 June 16, 2016 magistrates' department. We enjoy a fully funded and staffed veterans court, drug court, and mental health court. And those are all overseen by our Judge Janeice Martin, one of our county judges. So with that being said, Kathleen, make any comments. MS. SMITH: I would just thank you for your continued support of our agency. You are currently funding three positions for us which are active in these successful programs that we have in court: Your funding of a position for EID, which is an early intervention docket, as well as the mental health courts, drug courts, veterans court, and one support staff member. And these positions are really crucial to allowing the success of these programs. Other than that, we have gone paperless as well, which has been quite a challenge, but we are there at this point exchanging discovery with the state electronically, and we have electronic files at this point as well. So all you do for us is greatly appreciated. Thank you. MR. RUSSELL: Likewise, I'd just like to express our support from the State Attorney's side. We have a pretty cooperative relationship in terms of these types of issues between the agencies involved. Budgets are remaining fairly flat, as are caseloads, and we, I don't think, have any major increase, but we appreciate the support. MR. RICE: Judge Crown, any comments? JUDGE CROWN: All right. Well, first of all, good morning, and thank you for allowing me to be here and to make just a few brief comments about the budget request. I firmly believe that those of us in the courthouse are mindful and responsible stewards of the revenue that funds -- that flows into the courthouse. We're able to take that, in large part, and deliver, I believe, high-quality service to the citizens of this community. And I will just invite all of you at any time -- if you want to Page 14 June 16, 2016 actually see what we do, then I personally invite you over to the courthouse. Contact me at any time; we'll show you what we do in the courtrooms and throughout the courthouse. So this, I believe, is a reasonable request. The budget is a nominal increase over FY 16, and so our request is that you approve the budget as submitted. And, again, I appreciate the opportunity to be here this morning. MR. RICE: And I'd just like to add, we try to be very interactive with the community. We never turn down tours. We set up tours. We've had Youth Leadership Collier. We've had different schools -- numerous schools come through, Leadership Collier also. I think many of you been through it also, so we're always willing to open up and be transparent to what we do and try to welcome everybody to their courthouse. So any questions we'll be happy to take. CHAIRMAN FIALA: No one has their light on, but I'll just ask one simple one. You were talking about the drug court. Does that also include your very successful teen drug court? MR. RICE: Well, we have a teen court. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Yes. MR. RICE: Yes, it does. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay, good. MR. RICE: That's funded here also. CHAIRMAN FIALA: I've sat in on a couple of those. They're wonderful. MR. RICE: And, again, if you guys would -- that's -- the teen court is basically a diversion program kind of through the attorney. It's a trial by peers. So it's really a great program. If you guys want to know more information or want to come observe it, please, reach out to us. We'll be happy to have you. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Commissioner Nance? Page 15 June 16, 2016 COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yes. I have absolutely no questions, but what I would like to do is I would like to thank all of you for the way you've managed the essential services that you provide for our community. You very quietly and professionally have delivered the order that is necessary for our republic. It's much appreciated for me. You've remained off the headlines. You are not in the public eye. You're not a topic of discussion, and I appreciate that. And that means that you're doing a great job. You're delivering things very effectively and very efficiently, and I want to thank you for doing so. JUDGE CROWN: Thank you very much. Thank you. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And I would second that. I feel the same way. Well said. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Commissioner Taylor? COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: How's the renovation coming along with different courtrooms? MR. RICE: Well, right now we're in the process of building the new office for probation. That's hit kind of a -- we've been stalled for a few weeks waiting on our engineers to look -- they opened up -- when they opened up the ceiling, there's some ductwork that goes up a shaft. It now has to be enclosed to meet code, so we've kind of got a little setback there. But all in all, it's going great. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Have someone talk to Collier County about this. MR. RICE: We're certainly trying. But, no, it's going great. Facilities have been great working with us and their project manager, and after we get that completed, we'll move across the hall and build a new courtroom. The long-range plan for capital improvements is another courtroom on the sixth floor. We're also modernizing our five elevators that need to be done and rewiring the building. Page 16 June 16, 2016 So, you know, the building is 28 years old now. Everybody says "the new courthouse." Twenty-eight years old. But thank you. It's going very well. Thanks for asking. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Good, good. Because, you know, I've been in a few of your courtrooms, and it -- a little polish here, a little polish there. And I know this has been budget. This is not a reflection, so -- that you deliver the service that you do to the people of Collier County despite everything is extraordinary and well done. MR. RICE: Thank you. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Looks like you walk away with high A's in the grading period. MR. RICE: Can we leave now? CHAIRMAN FIALA: Yes, you can. Thank you very much for being here. MR. RUSSELL: Thank you. JUDGE CROWN: Thank you. MR. RICE: Thank you very much. MR. ISACKSON: Next up, Commissioners, is your growth management division/department. Growth Management MR. WILKISON: Good morning, Commissioners. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Good morning. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Good morning. MR. WILKISON: For the record, I'm David Wilkison, your Growth Management Department head. And I have my senior budget leadership team here with me this morning, and I'd actually like for Stephanie on the left side to introduce herself, and we'll start right across. Page 17 June 16, 2016 MS. AMANN: Good morning. I'm Stephanie Amann, Manager of Finance and Support. MR. KOVENSKY: Ken Kovensky, Operations Director. MR. FRENCH: Hi. Jamie French, I'm your deputy department head. MR. SHUE: Good morning. Gene Shue. I'm the Operations Director. MS. KEARNS: Good morning. Allison Kearns here at the moment as a Growth Management Financial and Operational Support Manager. MR. WILKISON: Yes. Thank you, everybody, and thank you for the opportunity to talk to you this morning about the Growth Management Department's budget. You know, Commissioners, last year, I sat in on the budget workshop, and it was actually before I officially started here at the county. And I sat here and really intently listened, but I can tell you I had no idea of the incredible teamwork that it takes to put this budget document together. And I want to thank all of you for your direction and support. I want to thank the County Manager's Office for their leadership and guidance. I especially want to thank Mark and his team, the budget team. I mean, amazing to work with. Just great guidance and support for our group. And last, but not least, really thank all of my talented GMD team members who helped put this budget together. Commissioners, we have a budget that is approximately $214 million this year, and we're in compliance with board policy staying under the two and a half percent target in our General Fund 001 and 111. And our expanded requests in 101 and 111 are all positions that are needed to carry out board initiatives and programs. We have two Page 18 June 16, 2016 project managers and inspector for the restarted landscape median program. We have a traffic signal technician for the LED streetlight conversion program, and then we're converting two job bankers in our enterprise asset management program. Now, our revenue centric operations are up about 16 percent, from 51 million to 59 million. And Jamie and his team have done a great job providing a real incredible level of service while balancing a staff that's really composed both of FTEs and job bankers. So our expanded requests in Fund 113 are positions that we need to continue to enhance that level of service, to heighten our expertise, stabilize our workforce and to continue to upgrade our review process. In addition, we're going to be making capital investments to enhance our level of service in the following areas: We're going to make technology upgrades to make submitting permits and tracking them easier, we're going to harden our IT infrastructure to minimize system downtime both for our staff and our customers, and we are going to be opening additional permit drop-off centers for the convenience of our customers. Now, Commissioners, earlier this week I passed out to you a copy of our capital projects plan. It was a small binder, and in that it contains a five-year work plan, project descriptions, and a map of our Fiscal Year '17 projects for stormwater, roads and bridges, road resurfacing, traffic operations improvements, and coastal zone projects. And a few things I'd like to highlight within that report is, you know, we do have a funding program the next few years for the design, permitting, and right-of-way acquisition for the Vanderbilt Beach Road extension really to position it in the future for -- possibly for debt issuance for construction and also the funding of the design and permitting in Fiscal Year '17 for the bridges in the eastern part of Page 19 June 16, 2016 the county so we can position them possibly for debt, issuance for construction in 2018, or to prioritize those for a pay-as-you-go program. And we continue to closely monitor those bridges and look at the condition closely. So I also wanted to give you a heads-up about something that's coming to your June 28th meeting. We will be bringing forward an executive summary on the median landscaping program. And in it we're actually going to ask for the approval of a work plan for five years and also for some advanced funding to do the design this summer for the projects that we would like to construct in Fiscal Year '17. So I wanted to give you a head-sup about that, and that will be coming to your meeting on the 28th. And in regards to stormwater funding, you know, last fall we had our integrated water resources management strategy workshop, and in that you gave us the direction and the guidance to investigate a stormwater utility. And we are currently undergoing that feasibility study, and we'll be returning in the fall with the results of that feasibility study to really kind of update you where we stand with that. And I'd like to conclude my presentation with an update on our airports. Due to the hard work of Justin Lobb, Allison Kearns, and Gene Shue and, obviously, the great Airport Authority Staff that we have, our airports have finished in the black for the third year in a row, and they've replaced about a million dollars of aging equipment. So I appreciate this opportunity to present our budget to you, and we're here and ready to answer any questions you may have. Thank you. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Commissioner Hiller? COMMISSIONER HILLER: As you know, we've been lobbying for TIGER funding, and I wondering to what extent you have a sense of the probability of us getting it in the time frame for Page 20 June 16, 2016 the projects that you're proposing, the capital projects, like, related to the bridges. MR. WILKISON: You know, we have one bridge project that is funded by DOT, and then the other two, as you know -- and you helped, thank you very much, with that TIGER funding. But I think that there's a probability within that five-year window of really finding out whether or not we would get funding for that, and that would be helpful, without a doubt. But realize the two TIGER-funded bridges that we have are really for an upgrade of safety, and most of the other bridges I was talking about, the ones way out east that are really older bridges that have aged and need to be replaced. COMMISSIONER HILLER: So would they qualify for the TIGER funding as well or not? MR. WILKISON: I don't believe so, because they -- the two that we had included in the TIGER funding grant were really more of a safety upgrade to provide safety out in the Estates for emergency vehicle travel. COMMISSIONER HILLER: As opposed to the ones that are already in existence, which is, you know, repair and replacement because of use. MR. WILKISON: Exactly. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Understood. All right. I just was wondering if that, you know, potentially could be, as we say, a good-news item that might -- MR. WILKISON: It could potentially be, and appreciate it. COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- add to -- MR. WILKISON: We appreciate your help. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Exactly -- to the budget. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Commissioner Nance? COMMISSIONER NANCE: Mr. Wilkison, I would like to start Page 21 June 16, 2016 -- and I'm going to take a little time here. I would like to start, and I would like to thank you, sir, for your leadership and your entire team. I think you've done an extraordinary job. I am very, very grateful particularly for the work that's been done with the county airports. You know, we had quite a bit of grumpiness on that once upon a time, and to see them thrive and to see them, I think, in readiness for economic development in some of the things that are going to go forward in the eastern part of the county, particularly the Immokalee airport, I am gratified for you, and I want to let you know that your citizens are aware of it, and they appreciate it. And, like I say, it's not a high-profile thing, but you've done an extraordinary job. MR. WILKISON: Thank you. COMMISSIONER NANCE: It is very clear to me that staff, throughout this budget, has done journeyman's work in its preparation. And I'm speaking in an overview because I'm going to get to something that's going to be not so happy in a moment. I think the administrative preparation and the operational preparation is clearly evident, and I think you've done a very, very good job of crafting a very complete, easy-to-read, and well-balanced budget across all of these different divisions. I will tell you, though, that I am going to -- and I'm going to talk -- I'm talking about this under growth management because the median program that we've discussed here is under your division, and it's going to go forward to something that I do have a grave concern about. I am -- I am very willing and supportive of increasing taxes in the county and addressing things like stormwater utility albeit my district is probably the district that bears the heaviest weight of any tax increase. Page 22 June 16, 2016 And to see our Unincorporated Area General Fund tax increase as it is, is a burden, but it's something that I can support under certain circumstances. My hope when I arrived -- and, you know, when I arrived I think I'm probably the only commissioner, at least in recent years, that's worked with landscaping in a sort of business, landscape maintenance. It was my hope that during the period of time and since I came to service with the county during the recession that we would get our head around our landscape maintenance program and that we'd be able to come together not only as a board but as a community and talk about how we could improve that program. I will tell you that I think that there has been a failure in that, and I think it's been almost total in that I feel like I bear the burden of that. I think it's been a personal failure on my part to send a clear and present message that we needed to do landscaping a little different than what we have. That said, it's clear and everybody understands that my district has the least median landscaping of any district in the county, and certainly I support the ornamentation of our community. I support moving some of those things into my district. But it has been my hope and my continuous hope that we would embark on something when we did reinitiate this program, something that was going to be more sustainable because my fear and actually my professional opinion is that if we don't reform the way we do this, there's going to be a very, very heavy environmental cost down the road. Everybody knows that water things are on the menu right now. And, you know, people are now, today, there are starting to be discussions about investigations on water quality. In the last 20 years, I believe that, unfortunately, the landscaping that we've done here has been behind the cutting edge. We have not -- our community has been a growth community, but we have not Page 23 June 16, 2016 done some of the things that they've clearly done in California and Arizona to be responsible, respectful for the environment. And although I would love to have responsible landscaping throughout my district, in District 5, I don't want to support something that's going to go out there that is going to have a huge deleterious effect that's going to be visited on the urban coastal zone. As this water and these plumes of fertilizer that comes along with the way we do business today, the people on the coast are going to suffer. So, you know, it's not that I don't appreciate the effort to help my district. I believe this budget as a whole and the support that I've gotten from my fellow commissioners for this budget is well balanced. I feel like my district is being well supported. But I will tell you today, as it's been explained to me and as I understand it, I'm going to be a dissenting vote on approval of this budget for the simple reason that I cannot support $4.3 million to continue a program that I know in my heart is fatally flawed. I hope that -- I know that my dissenting vote will not stop the approval of the budget, and I wouldn't do that. I would not stop the approval of the budget on a single item. My hope is that my open and notorious dissent on this item is just going to engender further discussion that I think is really necessary. And so I don't want to be a fly in the ointment, and I don't want any staff member in this room to think that I am, in any way, criticizing this budget. This is a policy of the Board. The staff has done a very, very good job, very, very professional job, and I can't criticize it in any way. I'm well satisfied. And it's not -- it's not your burden to bear, but it's your burden to bring these things to life. And, you know, you're going to react with the direction that you've given. But as much as I support ornamental plantings and as much as I Page 24 June 16, 2016 support beautifying my district, I cannot support this budget because of this, because I think this is a tax increase that's being dedicated to something that I don't think is really high on everybody's priority list in my district. I have to go back to my district, and I have to look them in the eye and say, you know what? I voted for a tax increase that's being used to finance a landscaping methodology that's not good. Not only is it not good for us, and I know it's not high on your list, but it's really not good for our coastal communities. I cannot support this professionally with a clear conscience, and I apologize to you for that. And I'm not -- I'm really not trying to be a pain in the butt. And I know that I don't have support here, but what I want to do is I'm hoping as we go forward and everybody wants to support doing this that we can have an honest community discussion, because we're going to be talking about water quality. And, you know, I don't want to go out there when we start talking about the quality in Naples Bay and go, geez, you know, how did we get here? And here's Tim sitting here living in this community for 20 years going -- I mean, you know, it's like a slow-motion crash that I can see coming. And I don't want to spend $1,000 to fix every dollar that we spend to do something that I don't have my heart in. So I apologize to you for this, and I apologize to my fellow commissioners, and I don't want you to think, Commissioners, that I'm ungrateful for the support you've given me in my district. But I think -- you know, I didn't sleep last night because of this; honestly, I didn't. But, you know, I just -- I hope that we can just go forward. I want to have a good rest of the day, but I hope that down the road that we'll have this discussion. And, you know, maybe, Mr. Wilkison, the event that you're talking about will give us another shot and, you know -- Page 25 June 16, 2016 MR. WILKISON: It will, and we will -- you know, we've been working with the steering committee that we set up to look at plant palette means and methods, you know, and the construction of landscaping. And we will, you know, be ready and able to discuss that on the 28th. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Sir, it's not your fault. MR. WILKISON: I understand. COMMISSIONER NANCE: And it's not the fault of the commissioners. I think it's a personal failure on my part. Perhaps I should have been stronger in my feelings about this earlier. But, you know, I know we're going to be dealing with this, but it's not going to be me. It's going to be the commission that follows me. So, you know, maybe this day and -- you know, please let's get past it. I'm not trying to be a downer to this event because I think you guys have done just the greatest job, and I want to leave it like that. You've done a tremendous job. And I know all the commissioners have a lot of sweat in the details of this, too, in the things that they've supported. So my thanks to you. My apologies for bringing this up at this time, but it's under your division, sir, so -- MR. WILKISON: I understand. COMMISSIONER NANCE: -- sorry for kind of a backhanded elbow and sorry for the -- I apologize to my commissioners for starting off a happy day in this way. But I just need to get this out, and I do -- I do regret it, but I feel compelled. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Commissioner Taylor? COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: You don't have to apologize. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Ma'am, it's -- you know -- COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: When I was -- COMMISSIONER NANCE: -- this is a team sport, you know. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: When I was running for this seat, Page 26 June 16, 2016 I remember listening to you talking about water and medians. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Talk into the microphone. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I remember listening to you talking about water and medians. And I listened to you and I'm thinking, of course, that's right, and you do have the expertise behind you, and you do have the knowledge. And Pelican Bay is what it is today because of you. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Well, I don't know about that, ma'am. You know, it's just -- COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Well -- COMMISSIONER NANCE: -- I'm very passionate about it, and I know that we're going to have to do better soon because if you can't read the tea leaves north of us, you know, we're suffering some of the same things in our own basin. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yeah. COMMISSIONER NANCE: So, please, let's go forward and let's have a great day and congratulate all the staff for doing a great job. Like I say, I regret this, but I needed to get it out now, and I'm not going to mention it again. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Well, I wasn't going to vote against the budget, but I was going to bring it up also. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Okay. Thank you. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: We have to come into the 21st century. We cannot keep repeating the same mistakes if we're concerned about our environment and water quality. It's very simple. Despite what the residents say. You know, they -- because if we're going to lead, we have to lead. And it's a challenge, but you would have my support, there's no question. What you brought up -- COMMISSIONER NANCE: Well, I hope in years ahead I can help to some extent to help, you know, bring this to light. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Well, the time is -- it's not years. Page 27 June 16, 2016 The time is now. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Well -- COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: You're going to still be here. The time is now, because we're going to get a plan. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Well, I'm very gratified, Mr. Wilkison, that you made that statement. Actually, it made me feel a little bit better right before I gave you a cheap shot. But, you know, thank you. And you can count on me being active in that. Thank you very much, sir. But you-all did fantastic job. This is a great budget under tough circumstances. And I'm very happy. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Nick, is that for this subject? MR. CASALANGUIDA: Yes. Madam Chair, you have one public speaker for the Growth Management Division. Mr. Brad Estes. MR. ESTES: Good morning, Commissioners. Thank you for the opportunity to speak to you at the workshop. My name is Brad Estes. I'm the Secretary of the Poinciana Civic Association, and, as you would guess, I'm here about stormwater drainage again. Our stormwater drainage system is dysfunctional. Most of the swales have filled in and have lost their capacity. We have about six miles of swales in our neighborhood. Our outfall ditch is 20 to 25 percent below capacity because of a buildup of sediment. About 140 of our driveways are in some state of disrepair because water constantly stands in them and has for many, many years. Having closely worked with your staff for 18 months, I've been -- I have become convinced that it's a lack of funding. I see willingness, responsiveness from -- at least considering what we're proposing, but I don't see action. Page 28 June 16, 2016 Since September of 2014, at which time I met with Mr. Casalanguida about this issue, only 32 swales of our 300 had been restored. And all we're asking is that we restore our system, our stormwater system, to the original design. We're not asking for enhancements. Just restore the system to its original design. I ask that before you adopt the coming year fiscal budget that you -- fiscal year budget that you explore what really is needed for Collier County to be able to address its county systems, the county stormwater systems, not just in Poinciana Village but all over. But we consider our system to be in a state of crisis. It's a public safety issue. On the overhead there you'll see four homes that were nearly flooded on August 4 of 2014. The house on the bottom right was within one-half inch of having water in it, and that -- I realize that rainfall has been characterized as a 50-year storm. It's very rare. But I remind you that the Vero Beach airport just got 9.78 inches of rainfall in an afternoon. I think that was May -- I forget the date. It was in May. So just to conclude, we think the August 4th incident was a warning shot. We want to be prepared. We want our system to operate at optimal capacity. It doesn't guarantee we'll not flood. We expect street flooding, but we're also very concerned about home flooding. We are a vulnerable area and, for that purpose, we -- or for that reason we ask that the system perform optimally and as designed. Thank you very much. CHAIRMAN FIALA: You kind of sit in a bowl, don't you? MR. ESTES: Yes, we do. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Sir, what is the date of this photograph? Is it on there? MR. ESTES: That's August 4, 2014. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Okay. What was it like this Page 29 June 16, 2016 January past? MR. ESTES: We had no -- COMMISSIONER NANCE: Did you have acute flooding during the -- MR. ESTES: We have street flooding on both our entrance streets at less than two inches, about 1.7. I took some photographs about 1.7. COMMISSIONER NANCE: During that period of the 19 inches in the month of January, were you in dire condition there? I mean, did you have acute flooding then, or not quite so bad? MR. ESTES: Just the street flooding. Just the street flooding and then some swale, but the swales percolated pretty well because the ground water is pretty low. COMMISSIONER NANCE: The dry season at that time. MR. ESTES: Right. Yes, it percolated. COMMISSIONER NANCE: So this is occurring during the rainy season? MR. ESTES: This occurred during the rainy season, yes. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Okay. MR. ESTES: And it's exaggerate -- what's the word? COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Exacerbated. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Exacerbated. MR. ESTES: Exacerbated during the wet season because of the groundwater. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yes, sir. Okay. Thank you very much. MR. ESTES: Yeah, sure. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Commissioner Hiller? COMMISSIONER HILLER: I have a great concern about how we are managing our stormwater system, and I mean that at all levels. What we're talking about here is the tertiary system. And the Page 30 June 16, 2016 system is an integrated system. It all connects. And we're dealing with the attempted management of the flow of water over what is nearly flat surface, which is very difficult, because to move water when there is no slope is very hard. It is essential that we are fully committed to the maintenance of the tertiary system, which is the swale system, to move water throughout the county, and whether -- this happens to be in a low-lying area, like Pelican Marsh is in a low-lying area, and where we have allowed development in many parts of the county that are low lying. We cannot, merely because it is in a low-lying area, ignore the maintenance of these swales. We have to maintain a standard across the county. The level of service with respect to swale maintenance to that tertiary system is critical to stormwater management. And I don't believe any area, whether it's Pine Ridge Estates or Poinciana Drive at Balboa Circle, should be treated differently or ignored. So I don't know what you have to do with respect to this issue, but it's an issue that comes up year after year, and it just -- and it pops up in different parts of the county. One year it's this part, next year it's that part, and every single time we have problems. So if we want to manage stormwater drainage appropriately, we must maintain the entirety of that tertiary system. And what we have to also do is be consistently conscious of the interruption of sheet flow which, in fact, we haven't been, as evidenced by how we have built our roads, which has been problematic and has caused flooding in different areas of the county that didn't exist before. So I don't know what we need to do to help you get there. I don't know if we need to -- I don't know if it's a funding issue or if it's a priority issue. Whatever it is, it just needs to be rectified. So you need to tell us what we need to do to avoid these problems anywhere in the county. Page 31 June 16, 2016 MR. WILKISON: It really is a funding issue. And in regards to this specific example, you know, we went in for about a month and a half and did swale maintenance, and we really want to see how that performs this wet season and kind of in conjunction, which is very important, this system outfalls to the extension of the Gordon River. And we're currently conducting a study through a consultant of the Gordon River extension. Kind of like -- we've gotten to the point now where we've kind of clearly evaluated the existing conditions because, obviously, any stormwater management system is only as good as its outfall. COMMISSIONER HILLER: No question. MR. WILKISON: And it outfalls to that extension which, obviously, then flows into the Gordon River. So in conjunction with the two, the maintenance and see how that works, plus looking at the study and taking into account the outfall system of Poinciana Village and also as we look at our feasibility study for stormwater utility. I mean, because part of that that you directed us was to really prioritize projects. So all of those things are kind of dovetailing nicely together, and I think this fall we'll have more answers, and then we can really look to the Board for a policy decision of where to go with this. COMMISSIONER HILLER: I think that's very good news, and I'm glad to hear that you're doing that, and I know we talked about that when you were first hired and my concern with respect to stormwater management, so I'm really glad to hear that you're looking at it from a fact-based perspective and that you are engaging in these studies. I think you -- it would behoove us to move these studies forward as quickly as possible. And the budget is a living, breathing document, and we don't -- whatever we set here, you know, at the end Page 32 June 16, 2016 of these budget hearings and approve doesn't mean it's etched in stone. So based on what you're saying, I sincerely hope that you will come back to the Board this fall and tell us, you know, what we need to get you funding to be able to accomplish what needs to be accomplished in the interest of the public's health and safety, because this is a public-health-safety issue. MR. WILKISON: We will. Thank you. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Commissioner Taylor? COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Hi. David, we've spoken about this many times, and I've met with the Poinciana Village. And I don't mean to put you on the spot, but I can tell you when we had this meeting the concern is the flooding, of course, but the concern is also the building to the north that -- which land that used to be vacant now has houses on it, more impervious surface is being built adjacent and north of Poinciana Village, and their concerns were the ditches. So I understand you're doing this modeling, but does that preclude clearing out these ditches so at least some of the excess water could be taken off the street, or do we need to wait until your modeling is done this summer? MR. WILKISON: I really think we should wait until the modeling is done because what it looks at -- like I said, it will take into account the development that exists that's north, south, and west, and then it will also take into account any development that we can predict within the basin also. That will be the proposed conditions as opposed to the existing conditions and really takes all those things into account to really kind of predict what is going to be the stage in these -- you know, these outfall ditches that lead from Poinciana to the Gordon River extension. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: So -- and, again, I guess what can we do to give -- I mean, there's -- you can touch the fear in the Page 33 June 16, 2016 neighborhood. MR. WILKISON: Right. You know, I spoke both to the director in my road maintenance division and our stormwater management manager yesterday, and they both assured me that the outfall ditches for Poinciana Village which were -- I think it's on the north, south, and west sides, those have been cleaned and are operational, and they have -- actually, in the last few years we have cleaned those. So I think, for that part of the system, we've done what we can do. Now, obviously, the system alongside the roads which was swales alongside the road, we did for -- about month and a half of work for, I think, it was 32 homes, and we really want to see how that performs. Because, you know, understand, this subdivision was designed and permitted and constructed probably in the '60s or maybe early '70s. And rules were different back then, honestly, in comparison. And you can see that, obviously, in the elevation of the finished floors. I mean, it's, like you said, way lower than everything that surrounds it. So -- and as you know, rehabbing these older systems, as you and I experienced -- COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes, yes. MR. WILKISON: -- in another subdivision in the county, is really almost a trial-and-error type situation. You need to make a plan, execute it, and really see how that functions. Because it's very difficult -- you know, so many things have changed over the last, gosh, 50-something years almost. So, you know, I think we've done what we need to do. We need to look how this all dovetails into this Gordon River extension study that we're doing. And then, obviously, as we perform this stormwater utility feasibility study and prioritize these projects, come back to you really for a policy decision as to how we treat projects similar to this, Page 34 June 16, 2016 because this is not the only one, as Brad said. There are other ones within the county that were developed many years ago who have a similar type system. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And I guess this would be for our board, and it's certainly not a decision to be made today, but there are certain older neighborhoods, I think, that have unique construction that may deserve attention that would be more than a newer neighborhood in terms of they may need extra features in terms of stormwater and what. And I know the idea of an MSTU has been floated, or MSTU has been floated, and I would like to -- and, again, this is not a discussion for today because we need to think about it and talk about it in terms of budget. But this is a budget meeting. I'd like to see if we could waive those fees and have the -- there's stormwater -- there's going to be stormwater tax that hopefully, if it -- if we go forward with it, if the consultants agree, but any kind of older neighborhood that -- that, through no fault of their own and really no fault of the county -- it's just -- it's convergence of what we used to do in the past and what we're trying to do in the future. I think they deserve a little more attention in that way. So, again, we don't have to make a decision about this today. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Commissioner Nance? COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yes. Mr. Wilkinson, one item that I wanted to bring to the attention of you probably for next year's budget or a future budget but always to the attention of the Board is something that's, you know, very closely in my scrutiny and people in my district, and that's the lime rock road conversion program. Okay. The lime rock road conversion program was re-supported by this board once we came out of the recession. It provides approximately $300,000 annually to pave unpaved roads in Golden Gate Estates, and there's 32 of these roads. Page 35 June 16, 2016 So at a hundred thousand dollars a mile, we do about three roads a year, which means we're going to get across these 32 miles of roads in the next decade, okay. But also on Page 58 of the Growth Management Department packet is a listing of lime rock road maintenance that's $250,000 a year, so the maintenance necessary to maintain the unpaved roads is nearly equivalent to the amount of money spent to upgrade them with paved surfaces each year. What I'm saying is -- and I think we have a mathematics problem here. And I think there's a win-win-win scenario for consideration is -- I think there's every reason to believe that it's good money management to go ahead and pave these 32 miles of road because I think we're -- it's costing us double to re-grade them year after year after year, and I think you're going to get several benefits from that. I think number one, you're going to get happy citizens. Number two, I think you're actually going to save money at the end of the day when you consider the fact that when you pave these roads, the taxable value of every adjacent property down there is going to increase. It's going to return additional dollars to the coffers of the government each year, and probably something that people are sensitive right now is, please realize that some of these lots that are on these unpaved roads are the greatest bargains in the county. Most of the land -- most of the lots in Golden Gate Estates provide areas for affordable housing. They provide attractive areas for workforce housing. But if you are a young, working professional with a family on a budget and you have children, you don't want to live on an unpaved road. You don't have a pickup truck. You know, you've got a car that's economical. People don't want to take their young families on a nasty, dirty lime rock dusty road. They're terrible. You know, my wife buys a lime rock colored truck every time she gets a chance to get one. They ask her, what color, Mrs. Nance, Page 36 June 16, 2016 and she goes whatever you've got that's closest to lime rock because that's where I live, okay. So if you want to provide good areas and attractive areas for workforce housing in Golden Gate Estates, get these roads paved. They would love to go there. It fits where they're going to be working. It fits their budget. But they really object. I don't think there's a female member in any family that wants her husband to buy a home site on a lime rock road. They just don't. So I think when you consider the cost of maintenance, the increased ad valorem taxes that we're going to get back when we do pave them, and the benefits to our much needed housing, that there's every reason for you guys to do a mathematical analysis and come back to the Board and see, does it make common, ordinary sense to go ahead and get these paved. I think it's a win-win for many of our efforts that we want to achieve. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Would that include all of the unpaved roads in East Naples, too? COMMISSIONER NANCE: Well, ma'am, right -- I think that -- CHAIRMAN FIALA: I think you have many more there. COMMISSIONER NANCE: No, you do. I mean, right now I can only address this program because this program only addresses the Golden Gate Estates roads. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay. COMMISSIONER NANCE: But there's every reason to think that the same thing applies to others, you know. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Good. COMMISSIONER NANCE: So, I mean, it's just a mathematical problem. You smart financial guys can come back and probably do an actuarial and show what it actually is going to cost the county if we were to, you know, pave them up front rather than on a pay go deal but, you know -- Page 37 June 16, 2016 CHAIRMAN FIALA: You definitely have plenty more in Golden Gate Estates. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Well, you know -- CHAIRMAN FIALA: I just figured -- COMMISSIONER NANCE: And that's where -- CHAIRMAN FIALA: -- as long as we're grouping it together. COMMISSIONER NANCE: That's where the workforce housing is now, and that's where it can be. And, you know, if you opened up 32 more miles of home sites, you might be delighted as to what -- you know, you find people wanting to do out there. CHAIRMAN FIALA: In Golden Gate Estates, when we do the roads, do we do anything at all about stormwater? I mean, I realize they don't have a stormwater management system out there, but is there a way to, like, swale it to certain areas so you can direct away from homes and include that -- incorporate that into the lime rock road conversion? MR. WILKISON: There are swales, you know, out there adjacent to those roads that we maintain. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Good. MR. WILKISON: You know, and they typically outfall kind of end of the street to the canals, kind of the system that was put in place in Golden Gate Estates. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Good. Oh, good. MR. WILKISON: But we do maintain. COMMISSIONER NANCE: It's remarkably effective for the dollars spent. I think it works pretty good, you know, at the end of the day. MR. WILKISON: It does. You know, we'd be happy to look at that -- COMMISSIONER NANCE: Just something for the future, not for today. Page 38 June 16, 2016 MR. WILKISON: -- and report back to you. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Something for the future. CHAIRMAN FIALA: I just want to comment once about the landscaping, and I under -- I heard both of you clearly, by the way, and I am the advocate for landscaping, so that is true as well. We -- in my opinion -- see, I only have an opinion -- I don't have -- I don't have -- I don't have an education in this. But in my opinion, when we went into the recession, we converted our landscaping program almost entirely, took out all the grasses that we could, replaced them with mulch, replaced them with bushes rather than flowering plants and so forth because we wanted to use the most drought-tolerant bushes that we could. The landscaping has not been looking good ever since then. We have a lot of things dying all the time in the roads, infested with bugs and so forth. There's a couple places that still remain from before the downturn in economy. One of them is Davis Boulevard between Airport Road and County Barn. It's gorgeous, but that's still from the old landscaping. Along U.S. 41, they've torn out a lot of that old stuff already. Some of it still exists. And it's more toward the 951 area. And the difference is like night and day. I don't know why these drought-tolerant plants that are supposed to live so well in our -- in our environment keep dying and are infested with things. There was one place planted on Marco Island, and that stuff looks terrible all the time. Now, I'm not saying -- I'm just saying what I see. I don't have any education or anything. But what I'd like to have us do -- because the stuff that I can see with my own eyes that has been there a long time, I would like to see us continue that. It doesn't have to be full of bushes or full of flowers or anything. You just need some grass, a tree here and there, and maybe some little flowers around the tree or Page 39 June 16, 2016 something like that. But it makes a beautiful and calming landscaping effect which, of course, the state has said is -- COMMISSIONER NANCE: I can address you quickly. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Let me finish if you don't mind. The state has said that having landscaping in the medians is really a safety feature because there's a calming effect so people don't -- don't seem to want to rush as much. It feels a little bit better, and not only that, but we have seen over and over again where people aren't driving very well and they run into the median landscaping. We've all seen that happen. But thank heavens they're running into that instead of somebody else's car. And we usually charge them for the replacement of all of those things. So that's my opinion, for whatever it's worth. Go ahead. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yes, ma'am. Everything you just said is accurate, is very true. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Good. Could I have education points, please. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yes. No, everything you have said is true. But let me tell you why the low input landscapes fail and the lush ones you're more happy with, because with high inputs and using the right ornamental plants, you can grow a pretty plant in road base. You cannot grow a native plant in road base. When we form our medians improperly and we throw all the concrete debris and extra lime rock and boulders and everything else in there, you eliminate your ability to put a native plant there that can live, or a low-maintenance situation. You can put some nice black dirt on top of it and load it up with fertilizer and load it up with water, and you can grow a beautiful flower on it, for a while. But then you're -- you know, you're doing -- you're doing two things that are wrong. Number one, you're having to use huge inputs Page 40 June 16, 2016 because you didn't start off doing the right thing. You started off with a bad foundation, so you really have to put tons of water and fertilizer in there to grow it. And the second thing is, you convince people erroneously that native plants can never look good. And what they really want is the hanging gardens of Babylon at a high cost, which turns around and pollutes Naples Bay. So what we're doing is -- the unanticipated consequences of us not doing the right preparation is that -- two things: We do something that's unsustainable, and we send a very, very bad message to our homeowners who we would hope would be landscaping their homes in an environmentally proper way, because what we do in the landscape medians is just an advertisement for our community. It enhances our community. It does everything Commissioner Fiala wants. It makes it look beautiful and so on and so forth. But the problem is, the community members think, "That's what I want." What they see, the hanging gardens of Babylon is what they want. And when they try to do that down at the water's edge, uh-oh; 20 years down the road, we've got green algae, and everybody's screaming, "what's wrong with our water quality?" "How did we get here?" Where did we go wrong?" "Who's responsible?" And then somebody turns and goes, "Oh, it must be that sugar farmer over by the lake." COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Or in Collier County. COMMISSIONER NANCE: No, no, it's not. It's the landscape maintenance company that you hire every month that has to, you know, try to do that. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: That's right. COMMISSIONER NANCE: So everything you said is true. But the solution is kind of-- you know, it's counterintuitive. It's counterintuitive. But everything Commissioner Fiala said is true. Page 41 June 16, 2016 CHAIRMAN FIALA: And you do have to admit that when we have beautiful landscaping, it also increases our property values which, of course, increases our tax base. It also -- it also is very good for tourists to see, and our tourism department loves it. And I know you know that. And I know what you're trying -- COMMISSIONER NANCE: I agree. CHAIRMAN FIALA: And we could say, this doesn't look as well or this doesn't look as good, but forgive us because we're protecting the waters 20 years down the road. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: No, no. CHAIRMAN FIALA: I mean, we can't do that either. So maybe there's a happy medium. We don't need to argue about it now, but -- COMMISSIONER NANCE: It's the wrong time. CHAIRMAN FIALA: But we should -- we should have just a little get-together sometime, all of us, maybe, or few of us -- COMMISSIONER NANCE: We've got a workshop. CHAIRMAN FIALA: -- to talk about it. Good. That's good. Commissioner Henning was next. COMMISSIONER HENNING: I think we ought to plant fruit trees out there. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Pardon me? COMMISSIONER HENNING: I think we ought to plant fruit trees out there, and that way, you know, when you have your yard sale sign to put up, you could pick up some fruit, or open house or -- COMMISSIONER NANCE: Ouch. COMMISSIONER HENNING: -- flea market open here or something like that, but -- CHAIRMAN FIALA: Thank you for the laughter. COMMISSIONER HENNING: This is budget workshop. It's Page 42 June 16, 2016 not horticultural workshop, so... COMMISSIONER HILLER: Okay. You are right. Thank you. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Are you ready for that, horticultural workshop? CHAIRMAN FIALA: Thanks for bringing a smile to everybody's face. That's cute. I'm sorry, Commissioner. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Are we going to have -- we are going to have a horticultural -- I mean, it's serious business, it really is. We need to be educated on it. So you're going to be here for our horticulture workshop, sir. CHAIRMAN FIALA: When is it? COMMISSIONER HENNING: Bring your tangerine tree. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: We'll just have to -- we have to plant it, so... CHAIRMAN FIALA: Very good. I'm sorry that this went on so long. We've -- the morning has dragged by at this point in time, but hopefully everything else will go along smoothly. But this is very important to everyone. And so thank you very much for being with us today. I'm sorry that we carried on a little bit -- MR. WILKISON: Thank you, Commissioners, for your support. CHAIRMAN FIALA: -- too long. Thank you very much. MR. FRENCH: Thank you very much. MR. ISACKSON: Commissioners, next will be public services. COMMISSIONER HILLER: I think we need a break for our court reporter. It's 10:30. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Yeah. Good. We'll do that. MR. OCHS: Ten minutes. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Yes. (A brief recess was had.) CHAIRMAN FIALA: The meeting is back in session. Page 43 June 16, 2016 Welcome, new faces. How are you today? Okay. Mark? MR. ISACKSON: Yes, ma'am. Public Services, Mr. Carnell. Public Services MR. CARNELL: Good morning, Madam Chairwoman and members of the Commission. Steve Carnell, for the record, your Public Services Department Head, and I have with me our management team this morning. And I want to briefly just say that the Public Services Department in FY 17, really starting in FY 16, were working very closely together on some centralized improvements with quality control, with our fiscal controls, our budget planning, and each of these folks have participated heavily in that, and I'm indebted to them for all the great work they've done in getting this budget ready. I want to take a moment just to -- I'll introduce everybody briefly and talk about their division. We start at the end here with Kim Grant who is the Director of our Community Human Services Division. And in the budget coming forward this year, as the board knows, Kim is going to be moving forward on our community-wide affordable housing plan. And part and parcel to that we are recommending the addition of a new affordable housing manager position that will help give us some in-house expertise in that area along with also strengthening our developer commitment monitoring that we do jointly what the Growth Management Department. And, also, we're to add a little more focus on trying to leverage all of our grant funds and interrelate them more closely together as we roll out programs. Sitting next to Kim is Patricia Roland. Patricia is the Interim Page 44 June 16, 2016 Director of the University of Florida IFAS extension. And most of you know Tish in her day job as the vice president of 4H and the extension agent who runs all of our 4H programs. And we have just record participation in a number of our 4H programs this year. And IFAS extension continues to reach out in the community very actively. A number of close partnerships with Collier County schools this year. Our nutrition program that's funded through the University of Florida continues to have a very high profile in the community. And we're getting into the public school system, in addition to that, in the 4H area with the robotics programs where we're actually teaching the teachers and the students on robotics techniques and technology. So we've got a number of different initiatives going on with IFAS extension that we're very proud of and excited about. And then immediately next to me is Darcy Andrade, the Director of Domestic Animal Services. We're moving into Year 2, budgetarily speaking, of the implementation of the University of Florida's college veterinary medicine recommendations to improve shelter operations and facilities. And one of the more conspicuous improvements in the coming year is going to be the hiring of an intake coordinator who is going to give us a more focused approach when our citizens come into the shelter in terms of helping our pet owners with, in many cases, retaining their animals and trying to encourage our owners to keep their animals and help them do so and be effective with that. We'll also be doing a little more proactive vaccination work through this position to keep our animal population healthier. DAS remains one of our big burgeoning success stories. Right now in Collier County at our animal shelter five out of every six animals that come into the shelter go home to somebody. Page 45 June 16, 2016 COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: That's nice. MR. CARNELL: And that is more than double where we were, say, when the shelter opened in the early 2000s. And that's to Darcy's credit and that's to the credit of her staff. It's to the credit to all of the rescue groups and partner groups in the community that work with us and our volunteers who work very hard to love and care for our animals in the shelter which, in turn, makes them -- not only treats them humanely, but makes them more adoptable. So we're very grateful for all the help and the great team effort that Darcy spearheads every day at the shelter. We are very cognizant right now and are monitoring working a progressive plan to try to improve the climate conditions at the shelter. We had very hot temperatures last year, and we're getting some reports of that again this year. And if you'll remember, the Board approved and we implemented repairs to the ventilation system. And at this point we've also installed temperature controlled monitoring, so we now have a much more objective database for being able to monitor the temperatures, and facilities management is able to operate the system remotely from the government center as well, which really is a big step forward from an efficiency standpoint. And you -- I believe all of you are aware, we are installing temporary air-conditioning units in the main adoption building, and those should be up and running here by the end of the month. And we're going to see how that works and what kind of progress we make. It is a bit of an uphill challenge because that building was built 15 years ago back when nobody envisioned 83 percent live release rates. And we're at a point now where we -- the building doesn't have insulation. It's not a matter of just putting in an air-conditioning unit and go. There's a lot more work that would have to be done with that. Page 46 June 16, 2016 So we're going to be -- in addition to putting this unit in to see how it works, we're also going to be hiring an engineer to give us some long-term options for how to manage the facility and come up with our best options for managing climate control in the years ahead. So Darcy continues to work with volunteers and the animal community in that respect as well. To my right is Amanda Townsend, who has two hats on today. You may not be able to see either one of them, but she is not only the Director of your Operations and Veterans Services Division but is also the Interim Director of your Museum Division. And if I could highlight the museum area for a moment, we're on track this year to complete the restoration of the club car at the Naples Depot. We're also in the process of coming forward to the Board with a joint loan application with the Marco Island Historic Society to hopefully bring back the Key Marco Island cat and other associated Native American art artifacts collected on Marco Island more than a hundred years ago, and you'll be seeing that at your next regular meeting, the joint application proposal, to move that forward. And we are very excited about that and really enjoy working with the Historic Society and all the resources and commitment they're bringing to that with us. We are also looking in the coming year to develop a children's interactive exhibit at the Naples Depot. If you ask me any questions about it, that's about what we know right now, children's interactive exhibit at the Naples Depot. And Amanda and her team are going to be working with the community to scope that and figure out what will work best and be of most interest to our children. And then we're also going to be doing some master planning; maybe a better way to say it is site optimization work at the main museum here. We have kind of this burgeoning gardens. We have a number of buildings there and exhibits, and we need -- we really need Page 47 June 16, 2016 to go back and take a look at the whole thing. We're going to take a relook and see if we can lay out the property better, better optimize the plantings and landscaping that we have at the main museum and get, you know, hopefully more bang for our buck going forward in terms of how we operate that site. Next to Amanda is Stephanie Vick, who is your Collier County health -- Public Health Unit Administrator. Stephanie stands in the shadows and does great work that nobody knows about. There's just all kinds of things the health department takes care of that none of us even know in terms of disease monitoring and control and keeping our community safe. They're all on top of the Zika virus right now and keeping everyone informed with that whole situation. And then next to Stephanie is another member of the acting guild. This would be Tanya Williams, our Interim Library Director. We continue with our libraries to restore our funding with your help, of course, of book and other materials purchases. Prerecession we were buying $1.7 million worth a year. It fell to as low as about $500,000 during the recession. Now we're back about halfway. It kind of looks like what Mark's doing with the General Fund reserve. We're bringing it back up year by year. We're going to be spending over 900,000 this year. So we're moving back towards where we were, and we're pleased with that. And, of course, Tanya's going to be moving us forward on the community-wide assessment of library services that we're going to commence in the fall interactively with the community where we bring them in and ask them for input about our libraries, what can we do to make our -- what do you like? What would you like to see changed and improved? So Tanya will be running point on that for us. And then next to Tanya is Michelle Arnold, the Director of Public Transit and Neighborhood Enhancement. And Michelle's happy to report that we're completing the second phase of Page 48 June 16, 2016 construction improvements at the David Boulevard/Radio Road transfer station. We'll be putting in the awnings and bus covers -- I'm sorry -- the covering for the passengers coming off the buses and also adding a bus wash here shortly and then doing some pavement work, and we'll have that project completed fairly early in the fiscal year. And then last but not least is Barry Williams, our Parks and Recreation Director. And Barry, as the director of really the biggest and busiest department or division in county government. As usual, all kinds of things going on. First, on the operational side, we're going to be -- we're asking in this budget to add a position at the Immokalee South Park. That park opened in 2013, and it's been very well received and highly utilized by the community, and we believe that there's an opportunity to provide more services on the weekend with some additional resourcing. And we're happy to report that we're going to be able to cover, we believe, about two-thirds of that cost through user fees in terms of the groups that have interest and the ability to pay and use that site. In addition to that, Barry's also recommended, and we're recommending, to the Board the hiring of two more maintenance positions: One at the Immokalee Community Park and one at the East Naples Community Park, as we continue to build the use and activity at that site. We want to have a little more maintenance resource handy on that -- at the location at that community park. Now, in addition, operationally, Barry's got some signature projects coming forward this year. Big Corkscrew Island Regional Park may be the biggest of them all. This budget includes $13.7 million towards the design and construction of that project. Obviously, we're going to need more than that. But this coming year is going to be about designing or redesigning and taking that master plan that the Board adopted in March that we created through the Page 49 June 16, 2016 community and making it into a buildable design. We just, in fact, received proposals this week from competing engineer firms, received seven proposals. So I was pleased to see a good, healthy body of competition, and our staff selection team's going to be working on that beginning next week. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Didn't we rename that the Tim Nance Regional Park? MR. CARNELL: That's good by me. COMMISSIONER HILLER: I thought we had done that. We hadn't done that yet? I'm sorry, Tim. We're slow on the uptake. I thought we had. MR. CARNELL: We were going to wait till he died, but --just kidding. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Could be sooner than you think, sir. MR. CARNELL: Just kidding. We'll await board direction on that. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Tim Nance Memorial Park. COMMISSIONER HILLER: I would recommend a pre-mortem decision. MR. CARNELL: Okay. Understood. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Thanks. MR. CARNELL: So Big Corkscrew is moving forward, and we COMMISSIONER HILLER: I thought we had. MR. CARNELL: -- expect to see the design completed and the permitting and all that work done in time to go to bid sometime in 2018. And then we also have the Eagle Lakes pool that is under design right now. And we have -- this budget includes $9.1 million for the balance of the design and the construction of that pool. We're Page 50 June 16, 2016 wrapping up the 60 percent design phase right now and hoping to have our permitting and design all done by the fall going out to bid, opening bids hopefully in January, bring something -- a contract back to the Board shortly after that, and with the goal at the moment of trying to get that pool opened in the spring of 2018. Pickleball. We had a discussion, an engaging discussion on Tuesday with pickleball, and we're going to continue to move forward in developing capacity there. The Board on Tuesday approved a plan for us to look into designing and building shelter covering, or a court-area covering over the championship court area. In addition to that, we're going to be removing some of the fencing around some of the courts just to clear it up, make it a little visually more clear and operable for everybody to access. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And constructing a helicopter pad, right? MR. CARNELL: Yeah, I got that in there, too, Commissioner, yeah. CHAIRMAN FIALA: I notice she hits that everything time. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Everywhere. MR. CARNELL: Well, at the moment the other one is, of course, we want to recover and put the higher level deco surface on nine sets of courts that are closer to the Avalon school area. So that's pickleball at the moment. And then, per the Board direction on Tuesday, we're going to be sitting down with the pickleball organizers here in the coming days and weeks and start a multiyear plan for improving the facility and getting it into turn -- as Commissioner Henning pointed out Tuesday, getting a commensurate commitment from the US Pickleball to stay with us for multiple years. So we're excited about that. Then the ATV park. We really made kind of a breakthrough this Page 51 June 16, 2016 year where we found some consensus. You've got a very faithful, long-suffering, enduring ad hoc committee that's hung in there with us, and we think we may have a possibility with the Immokalee airport land in terms of being able to develop that. We've gotten a tentative conceptual nod from the FAA that, hey, this might work. No commitments yet. We're in the process now of doing a feasibility -- environmental feasibility review of the property which we'll have done at the end of the summer, hopefully. And Mr. Williams' has started communication with the surrounding property landowners to get their input; gotten some very positive feedback initially in that respect. And, of course, we'll be engaging more of the Immokalee community as a whole as we go forward with that project. So we're very excited and looking forward to that as well. With that, I'll entertain any questions you may have from the Board. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Right now I have none, but we do have a speaker, right? MR. CASALANGUIDA: Madam Chair, we have four public speakers. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Four. Okay. MR. CASALANGUIDA: If you want to get started with that, I can call them off if that's your pleasure. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay. MR. CASALANGUIDA: Mr. Brad Estes, followed by Mr. Phil Brougham. MR. ESTES: Real briefly, I just want to compliment the staff, Leo and his staff, for submitting a budget that continues the progress of DAS moving into a 21st century agency in its facilities, with the appropriate facilities. So, also, I want to also thank Leo and his staff for moving Page 52 June 16, 2016 forward on the temperature issue. I was very delighted to see new equipment out there yesterday that's being installed. So I bring compliments and thanks. MR. CASALANGUIDA: Thank you. Mr. Brougham, followed by Patty Teulet. MR. BROUGHAM: This one works, right? Good morning. I'm Phil Brougham. And, full disclosure, I'm Vice-chair of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board. I've got a number of things to touch on very briefly, but the primary one, in my mind -- and it has been there for quite some time -- is infrastructure, and that's infrastructure across the county and certainly including our parks and recreation infrastructure, whether they're community centers or playground equipment or docks and so forth. I had a brief conversation this morning with Dr. Yilmaz regarding his progress with the implementation of the new fixed asset program and system. That's a wonderful tool. It looks like it's coming to fruition. And it's going to be able to give you a lot of down-to-earth facts regarding the age and condition of your infrastructure across all agencies; however, I'd just like to comment that that is just a tool. It has to be supplemented with a funding strategy, and that's something that I've spoken about before. And I'm not telling you folks anything you don't know, I mean, the heavy reliance upon the General Fund and how you have ups and downs, and we're in an up cycle now, and we're a little bit more flush with cash. But that's going to turn, and we're going to be back to where we were, hopefully not. But I would think that in the future we're going to be back down there in property values, and the General Fund revenues aren't going to be what they are. But the infrastructure remains. That's what our citizens rely upon, not only for their health and safety, but also their fun and Page 53 June 16, 2016 enjoyment in parks. I commend you in what has been proposed in this year's budget with respects to the parks' capital, repair and maintenance and replacement. It appears that it's going to go up approximately a million dollars, plus or minus, over last year, and that's great. And I hope that can continue. However, again, I would like to lobby for a dedicated revenue source to be dedicated to infrastructure, capital, repair, and maintenance. It would at least provide a stream of revenue that people can rely on in their budgeting. You restrict the competition to some extent for the General Fund. Couple other points. Big Corkscrew Island is going forward great. Let's not phase it. Let's not do Phase 1, Phase 2, 2 and a half, 3, 4, and have years to go before that's completed. Let's try to have a plan that, whether it's debt service or whatever, let's build the park, and let's also -- give me another 30 seconds. Let's also possibly consider including in any debt-service strategies the expansion of the community center at Eagle Lakes. We need a bigger building. We already built this one, but we need a bigger building. Now might be a good time to consolidate what we need in funding in with what we need for Phase 2, 3, and 4 of Big Corkscrew. Final point, don't forgot there's 60 acres of land down by Fiddler's Creek called Manatee Community Park. We haven't talked about it for four or five years. Get it on your radar. It could be a relief valve for what's happening with pickleball up at East Naples Community Park. It can be a relief valve to come down there and, perhaps, build some Little League fields, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Put it on your radar. Thank you very much. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Thank you, Phil. Page 54 June 16, 2016 MR. CASALANGUIDA: Ms. Teulet followed by Mr. Burgess. MS. TEULET: Good morning, Commissioners. My name is Patty Teulet, and I've been a volunteer at Domestic Animal Services for the last five years. I'm going to read from this podium. This is my first time, so... Aside from spay/neuter to get the job done, I'm here to speak on the subject of public relations as it relates to promoting the adoption of animals at Collier County Domestic Animal Services. The mission statement for DAS states: To promote the adoption of homeless animals to new families. I may not be exact in these numbers, but I believe the advertising promotion budget in the past allowed for $2,000 a year and may now be increased to $3,500 for 2017. One full-page ad in the Sunday edition of the Naples Daily News is upwards of 6- to $7,000. I also believe that the public information coordinator for DAS spends a mere 2 percent of his time on PR for DAS. In my opinion, this does not come anywhere close to what this community needs for adopting out these pets, especially with the influx of new families moving into Collier County. There are currently approximately 200 cats housed at DAS and, I believe, on average, 90 dogs there every day. The daily care and medical attention of all these animals is costly. I am asking for the Board's consideration to increase the public relations budget to allow more frequency in promoting adoptions of all these homeless animals via local television, radio, newspapers, and other publications. Thank you. MR. CASALANGUIDA: Madam Chair, Mr. Burgess has asked for an additional three minutes or even a little more and has provided a presentation, which I've passed out to the Board members. So at your discretion. MR. BURGESS: Great. Thank you so much. Page 55 June 16, 2016 For the record, my name is Scott Burgess. I'm the Chief Executive Officer of the David Lawrence Center with two locations here in Naples and one in Immokalee. I first want to thank you very much for the opportunity to present before the distinguished board here today, and I would also like to sincerely thank our wonderful partners in Collier County Government, including Steve and Kim, who we work most closely with related to the grants management. I'm here today to discuss the state of affairs relative to mental health and substance issues that are in our county, and I have provided a document with some slides. I know they say a picture says a thousand words, and I'm hoping to be able to express a lot through the documents and through the graphics here with the brevity of time that I have. For those that are unaware in the audience -- and I know the commissioners are well aware -- David Lawrence Center is the community mental health center and addictions treatment facility here in the county. We are the only Baker Act receiving facility in the county. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Excuse me just a second. MR. OCHS: Let me interrupt you -- MR. BURGESS: Yeah, sure. MR. OCHS: -- and invite you to come over to this podium where we can display your PowerPoint on the overhead, if that will work for you. MR. BURGESS: I didn't have a PowerPoint. I had a handout. MR. OCHS: Yeah. We'll just put the handout on the visualizer. CHAIRMAN FIALA: So then the audience at home can see it as well. MR. BURGESS: Wonderful. MR. OCHS: And I'll give you this hand-held mike so you can flip the pages. Whenever you're ready, just tell me and I'll put them Page 56 June 16, 2016 up. MR. BURGESS: Okay. Terrific. So with the -- MR. OCHS: What page? MR. BURGESS: I'm sorry. Just the first page would be great. Again, for those that are not aware, David Lawrence Center is the only Baker Act receiving facility in the county here, indicating that we are the facility that takes care of individuals who literally have been determined to be a danger to themselves or others and require immediate psychiatric service in order to protect themselves and the community. And in regards to that, we also are the provider for outpatient services and community-based services. We provide services to children, adults, senior citizens, and we provide those to all individuals regardless of ability to pay, regardless of insurance, and that sort. So we are definitely for everybody in the community. And our charter, as everybody well knows, is to make sure that we're taking care of safety of the community as well as the wellness and the well-being of every individual and their family in the community. What I wanted to do today is to humbly request a slight increase, a moderate increase in the support that we receive from the county. And I wanted to provide you the rationale as to why. The first slide here is based on the growth that we have experienced at David Lawrence Center, looking at FY 13, '14, and '15 just with five of our services, and then the second graphic, which is now on the screen, is an aggregate slide. And maybe a little bit hard to see for those on the large screen. But what it demonstrates is in the last three years we've seen a significant increase in this community in the demand for our services for both children and adults. And in aggregate, we are now provided -- projected to provide almost 221,000 service units to individuals in Collier County for this Page 57 June 16, 2016 fiscal year. That's a 22.4 percent growth since FY14, and we haven't requested an increase in funding in that time period. So we've continued to provide more and more services to more and more individuals in need without having requested additional resources up till this point. The next slide, please. As I mentioned, one of the most critical elements and vital elements that we provide for the community is being the Baker Act receiving facility providing those in-patient -- well, emergency assessment, first of all, and then the in-patient support for individuals that are in desperate need to, again, take care of themselves, be safe to themselves and safe for the community. What this slide demonstrates is just specifically the number of Collier County Sheriffs Office Baker Acts that have been referred to David Lawrence Center across time. This is statistics directly from the Collier County Sheriffs Office. And what I'll point out to you -- and you can see in the graphic representation the dramatic increase across time, but the data -- they started tracking this in 2001. At that point in time, there were 300 referrals from the Sheriffs Office to David Lawrence Center for in-patient support. If you fast forward seven years to 2008, that number goes from 300 to 502 direct referrals from the Sheriffs Office, and fast forward another seven years, and in 2015 we had 1,303. So you can see this dramatic increase across time from when it first was tracked at 300 to now over 1,300 direct referrals from the Sheriffs Office alone. Because of that we've had to, obviously, increase our capacity and our ability to manage all those referrals. And we've seen not only growth in the number of individuals coming to us but in the severity of the illnesses that we're seeing and the lengths of stay that are required in order for them to stabilize. The next slide, please. The next slide looks at some of the macro Page 58 June 16, 2016 environmental challenges. And I'll read these. They're -- statically speaking, the research demonstrates that one in four individuals are going to be impacted with a mental challenge in their lifetime. One in nine are going to be impacted with a substance abuse challenge in their lifetime. These are statistics that are across the board in every community and are nationally recognized. These are our brothers, our mothers, our sisters here in this community as well. In addition to just looking at that from a statistical standpoint, because we are a growing community and we've doubled in size in the last 15 to 20 years, we're predicted to continue to double in size in maybe the next 15 or 20 years, just literally speaking from a statistical standpoint, the more people come here, the more that are going to have need. And we have certainly seen that through the trend lines thus far and is one of the major reasons why we're asking for additional support. Additionally, Florida ranks 49th out of 50 in funding across the country for support for mental illness and substance abuse. We are second only to Idaho in the lowest amount of funding provided from the state in order to provide these services. So we're very challenged from a state standpoint, and we also have a very high percentage of uninsured individuals, ranking second highest in the country. Lastly, we do have a number of individuals that we do, try, whenever possible, to get onto Medicaid when they qualify for such and, unfortunately, even when we get people on Medicaid, the actuarial studies demonstrate that it only pays for a portion of the actual cost for treatment. One of the things that we were asked to do by Collier County was take a look from a local level standpoint, so we're looking at some of those macro factors and maybe looking more micro and Page 59 June 16, 2016 taking a look at other county comparison. This is a little bit of a busy document, but what it will demonstrate and what it does demonstrate -- we've broken out the support that the community mental health centers in other counties in the region are receiving from both the state level, the county level, and other income sources. And what we have been able to demonstrate related to county support is that the other areas are slightly -- investing slightly more in their support for mental health. If you take a look at the graphic, what you'll see is that it's rated on a per-resident dollar amount. And the lowest level is at $5.97, which is the combined Manatee and Sarasota. The highest level is Charlotte at $7.70 per resident. Currently the Collier County support is $3.78. So we have -- we have requested, based on the increase in demand for services, the increase in our need to provide those services to keep the community safe, and to assure the well-being of all the residents of the county an increase of 264,400, and we are asking that you would support that. We certainly know just by turning on the television the challenges that we have related to mental health in this country, the challenges that we have related to substance issues, heroin addiction. I can really go on and on. We also know that we have a tremendous challenge with violence in this society and a growing challenge. The last two graphics -- and I don't want to belabor them -- is the increase in mass shootings across the country. The first graphic is literally the number of victims. The second graphic really speaks to -- if you would show the second graphic -- speaks to the actual number of mass shootings. And what it highlights there in those boxes, which are hard to see, are some of the common themes associated with places that we've come Page 60 June 16, 2016 to know well tragically: Columbine, Virginia Tech, Newtown. We know that we need to be ever vigilant in addressing these issues in order to keep our community safe and keep everyone well. With that, I'd just like to encourage, if at all possible in your budgeting process, the increase because we need to invest in the human service and health infrastructure of our community as well. And I'm happy to entertain any questions that you might have. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay. I have first Commissioner Nance. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yes, sir. Thank you for bringing all the information. I just wondered if you had tracked any information regard -- you know, I think that you certainly closely work with some of the other service providers in the county. Do you have -- other than this mass shooting thing which, of course, is on everybody's mind at the time -- and I don't want to politicize this, but do you have a body of information that indicates the amount of the patient load that you have with violence-related issues in all its forms, you know, whether it's criminal violence or just behavioral or social? Do you have anything that gives us an idea of kind of what our trend is locally here, I mean, short of, you know, tragic and acute incidents? MR. BURGESS: Sure. What I'd like to say first and foremost is the vast majority of individuals that struggle with mental health challenges and the vast majority that struggle with addictions challenges are not violent. So I want to make it -- COMMISSIONER NANCE: That's my question. MR. BURGESS: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I do -- you know, there's causality and correlation. And what we do know from the national information and what we know just anecdotally is that when we look at these things, sometimes there is a mental health element or mental illness element in these tragic situations. Page 61 June 16, 2016 The vast majority of the time, these are individuals that are not involved in treatment, and that's why it's so critical for us to get people into treatment. As it relates to not violence in specific but as it relates to evaluating our performance against some of our counterparts in other areas, we do participate in providing outcomes and performance-based data to the state, and we are benchmarked, and we have scorecards that demonstrate that David Lawrence Center beats the averages as far as benchmarks in everything from quality outcome as well as client satisfaction and numbers of clients served. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Thank you. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Next we have Commissioner Hiller. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Thank you. I've been an adequate of your Baker bed program since long before I joined the Board. When I first joined, there were attempts to not fund you, to defund you. And then, fortunately, the Board, in our wisdom, recognized that what you provide by way of a service is absolutely essential and is actually integral to what the sheriffs mission is and that without the presence of you in the system, that we would find that individuals who do need mental healthcare would be placed in our jail system and would be very much at risk to themselves and to the rest of society when they came back out. So providing Baker beds, and you being the only facility that provides Baker beds, is a vital service that this community cannot lose. It is clear that we have a growing number of individuals who are, unfortunately, candidates for being Baker Acted, and it is for their protection. And I can see why you need additional beds, and I can see why you need additional funding. And I fully support the request of 260,000 because in our overall budget it is a de minimis request with a very significant community payback. Page 62 June 16, 2016 So, you know, if you save one life, it's worth 260,000. If you save one family from the grief of a suicide or, you know, potentially a suicide/murder, which often happens in these instances, it is certainly worth 260,000. So I don't know, County Manager and Mr. Isackson, our Budget Director, whether it would be possible to find that funding because, I, for one -- and, obviously, it's a decision of the Board and it, you know, obviously, would come back because this is, you know, our discussion about these issues, but I would hope that we would be able to find the monies to support you to get this done. Would that be possible? MR. ISACKSON: Commissioners, if that's the Board's collective desire, what I'd like to do is wait till I get taxable value at the -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: Of course. MR. ISACKSON: -- end of July or at the end of June, excuse me; that would be our certified value. I'll get with Mr. Carnell. You have a budget document that you get in mid July, which is the book that you get after the certified taxable values, and we have a change log in that book which compares this document with the July book. And at that point in time, once -- after I get with Mr. Camel!, we can take a look at that additional $264,000. COMMISSIONER HILLER: I would really appreciate that. And if you could bring that back to us if-- you know, and then the Board could decide whether they would be supportive, and I hope they would be. I would also ask that maybe -- you know, I know the sheriff will be presenting. You may want to ask the sheriff to also mention that adding these additional beds is a benefit to him as well, that it isn't, you know, just for your benefit, but it is actually a benefit for the whole public safety system and it would, I think, benefit this board to Page 63 June 16, 2016 hear from him that he endorses your request. CHAIRMAN FIALA: I agree with you, by the way. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Thank you. I appreciate that. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Commissioner Henning? COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah. The -- normally not-for-profits we send them to United Way. Leo, correct me if I'm wrong, the reason that we have contributed to David Lawrence over the years is because of the impacts to the jail system. MR. OCHS: I think there's two reasons, sir. That's one. And, secondly, and more importantly, frankly, there's a statutory requirement for some county cost share in the provision of community mental health. So we meet that obligation, but we also, as you said, have a strong linkage between the services they provide and what our sheriff provides. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Well, I know the sheriff is -- actually, this board supported a jail study, and a part of that was to house the mental health and rehab those people because of-- the jail population for criminals have -- I wouldn't say -- but it's somewhat diminished. So there is room in the jail. So I think the proper approach is wait for that study and the recommendations of the sheriff for housing mental illness people and rehab because that's more of a holistic approach. You are aware of what the sheriff is doing? MR. BURGESS: Yeah. I'm aware of what the sheriffs doing in regards to assisting those that are under his care at the jail. It is a -- quite frankly, it's a national issue and epidemic of what has happened with under resourcing the community mental health system across the country. COMMISSIONER HENNING: No, I'm talking about the jail. Page 64 June 16, 2016 MR. BURGESS: Yeah, the jail. I'm getting to that. I'll try to be very brief. So what's happened is -- and there's a phrase that's been coined trans-institutionalization. We took individuals out of state hospitals, and we underfunded community resources, and now these individuals are struggling, and they're winding up in the prison system across the country. And I came from outside of Chicago. They give psychiatric medicine to 1,800 people a day in the jail. Here in Collier County, I believe the average daily census is 800. I think there's about 200 of them have psychiatric issues. So, clearly, there's a -- we have 64 total beds at David Lawrence Center. So there's 200, you know, with psychiatric situations in the local jail here. We've got 64 total beds. So, clearly, we're under capacity, if you will, as a community. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Well, yeah. But also, you're -- I mean, just expanded not too long ago, maybe the last couple years, your facility. MR. BURGESS: Four years ago. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Was it that long ago? Okay. Are you looking at another expansion? MR. BURGESS: We are. Actually, we're looking to double our children's unit right now. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Well, see, that's problematic because you have zoning issues. MR. BURGESS: We've -- well, we've already gone through -- we've got a master site plan that's already been approved. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay. That's what we did approve recently. MR. BURGESS: That had been approved in the past, and we've gone through with the county folks to make sure that we're in full Page 65 June 16, 2016 compliance with the expansion, as was originally planned on the site plan. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay, good, good. Well, that's not an impediment then. But, really, the issue is, you know, the partnership of the Sheriffs Department and how he's going to address that through the mail -- or the jail master plan study. So, Leo, are you aware of that? MR. OCHS: Yes, sir, through staff liaison with your public safety coordinating council. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay. Yeah, thanks. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Commissioner Taylor? COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: The Baker Act issue is not limited only to adults, and I know firsthand what that is, and I know how important David Lawrence has been over the years that I was a foster parent. I think we're underfunded. David Lawrence is not -- it's a wonderful private -- public/private partnership. And the community steps up, but I think we need to, too. So I would support looking at additional funding. There's no question we -- I was in a big city when they opened the doors of the state hospitals, and I remember it so clearly. It was night and day. We used to call him the gorilla man. He was always in a heavy coat, and he would sleep in the park. And he would -- that's where he was. And why was he there? Well, he was in a hospital before, but we can't afford it anymore. So I've seen that transition, and I don't think, as a society, we can afford it anymore. And, frankly, it starts here locally. COMMISSIONER HILLER: I agree. CHAIRMAN FIALA: I think that you're looking at a very supportive board sitting here. So that's a good thing. That's what I'm hearing from each and every one. Page 66 June 16, 2016 I would like to tell board members, I was hoping by noon to finish all of our departments so that we could get onto the constitutionals when we come back from lunch, but it looks like we're kind of going in slow motion. And here I am, I'm going to have a couple comments also, but I'll make them very quick. I was hoping to ask about the air-conditioning over at the DAS, but I don't have to ask that question anymore. It's already answered. That's a wonderful thing. To Mrs. Teuret, Patty Teuret, she was talking about some advertising but, you know, in the meantime, before the dollars are even appropriated, I could suggest that every once in a while, maybe once every week or two, one of the advocates for the animal kingdom might want to write a letter to the editor and say, guess what, we have all of these available right now, and they need you. You know, it's a -- everybody reads the letters to the editor. So it might be a way to get out some of the word now, and it's free. The second thing is, I wanted to -- I wish I could read my own writing. Oh, yes. Where are we -- where are we -- both of you, I'm talking about -- the cable car on -- with the -- or the club car, excuse me -- with the train over at the Naples Depot? Are we working on it? MS. TOWNSEND: Yes, ma'am, we are. We have a contractor who's working on the restoration of the club car. His progress has been slow, but we've sort of-- we're working with him and are finding ways to overcome some of his hurdles, and we have a definite completion date of February 2017 now. CHAIRMAN FIALA: February of 2017. Okay, yeah. Because I keep looking over there, and I never see anything going on. And I always want to walk in, but it's always closed, and --just to keep track of it. I think that that's such a worthwhile project for the museums, and I'd love to see it move along. So that's all I have to say. Page 67 June 16, 2016 Commissioner Hiller. Oh, my goodness. I have Hiller. Which one is -- COMMISSIONER NANCE: Taylor. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Taylor and Nance. Okay. We can try and make it a little quicker, okay. COMMISSIONER HILLER: So I have just two comments but they're important. And the first is -- it's with respect to veterans services and animal services. And I know when I started, neither one of you as departments really -- I mean, there was a lot of community upset. I think the level of service was not where it needed to be. And when I see both of your departments today compared to what it was like, you know, six, seven years ago, it's nothing short of outstanding, and I want to compliment -- I mean, all of you are outstanding collectively, but these two departments in particular have gone through a major transformation for the best. And actually, Kim, yours has gone through a major metamorphosis also. So, I mean, overall, I mean, it's really great to see a positive change. And I know the animal community, as Commissioner Fiala calls it, the animal kingdom, truly is very appreciative for what's happened, and I know the veteran community is truly appreciative. And your aide is now working as one of the -- your former aide is working as one of the liaisons. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Really? MR. OCHS: Alex. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Alex. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Oh, is she over there with the veterans? COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yes. And I can't tell you how often I hear the vets compliment her service. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Oh, she's wonderful. They're loving her, yeah. COMMISSIONER HILLER: So good job. Really good job. Page 68 June 16, 2016 CHAIRMAN FIALA: Thank you. Oh, and she's loving working there, too. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yeah, yeah. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Let's see. We have next Commissioner Taylor. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Well, under the subject of considering more money, I would like to see if staff could bring an analysis of the -- I believe it's a 10-year agreement, but it was struck in 2008 for the -- it's an annual payment to the City of Naples for their beaches, and I'd like to see that reviewed and analyzed for, perhaps, an increase, perhaps not. There needs to be a discussion with the city about it, of course. But if we don't have beaches, we don't have Collier County. So it's something that we probably should take a look, at least within the city, because it is kind of the main area where they have tremendous traffic. So do I have agreement -- I mean, this is, again, to analyze it. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Uh-huh. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay. COMMISSIONER HENNING: What are you talking about? COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: There's an annual agreement of a million dollars going to the city to maintain their -- COMMISSIONER HENNING: Oh, for the parks. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yeah, yeah, for their beaches and their parks, yeah. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Well, wait a minute. It was the parks. It was the parks, not so much the beaches. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: No, it's the beaches, too. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Not so much the beaches. It was the parks. It was a transfer of a million dollars. It was -- is that a long-term agreement? Page 69 June 16, 2016 COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Ten years. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Is that what it was? Yeah. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I think it was 10 years. MR. OCHS: Ten years, sir. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Ten years and it's coming -- MR. OCHS: It will be over in 2018 unless it's renewed. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay. Well, 2018, let's see. You'll have a whole new board, won't you? MR. OCHS: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Why rush it? Are you wanting to -- or they're expanding again, right? COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I just wanted to -- we may not -- the analysis may not come back. I'm just, you know, raising that concern and having staff look at it. They may address it in September. They may not until January. It doesn't matter. COMMISSIONER HENNING: My opinion -- you might want to wait, because my opinion is the City Council has expanded their park over and over again without the county's input. They have expanded the programs and now they've got, what is it, Baker's Park or something like that. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Baker Park. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Well -- COMMISSIONER HENNING: And the Board of Commissioners have never -- they've never been asked to do so, so -- and I understand by the media that they don't have the funds. They were going to ask for a tax increase to do that. That was one of the considerations. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I'm not suggesting Baker Park. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Well, the agreement was for the parks. I mean, they -- I remember they've come and said, well, you Page 70 June 16, 2016 know, the county citizens are using our parks and so on and so forth. Yeah, when you promote, expand, so on and on forth, it does, but it takes away from our parks and the needs that we have, you know. Other issue of Marco Island roads. CHAIRMAN FIALA: They've also extended the CRA for another 30 years. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah. That's where it should be coming from is out of the CRA. So my part is do away with the agreement. So you might want to wait until the new board comes on to -- COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Can we just get an analysis? Can we look at it? And I'm not suggesting it comes back. COMMISSIONER HILLER: I support you -- I support you. And the reason I support you is it is absolutely true that the citizens from unincorporated Collier County do use the parks within the city. And so to that extent, it does behoove us to make a contribution, and we should analyze it and make sure it's fair because there's, very clearly, a benefit to us. If the city is providing parks that supplement the parks that we're providing, that increases our inventory of parks not at our full cost. So if, you know, we make a lesser contribution and we're providing -- we're getting that much more park in return through the city's own investment in parks for the benefit of everybody, it's a good thing. So I absolutely support you on that. And I do think we should have the study, and I do think it should come back and -- CHAIRMAN FIALA: Good. So we've got nods of approval? COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yes, absolutely. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Let's move this along, folks. Let's go. Nance -- Commissioner Nance. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Finally and quickly, Mr. Carnell, Page 71 June 16, 2016 thank you. Your department and your staff meets more of our citizens directly because you're providing the services that they have direct contact. I'm going to give you very, very high marks for doing a great job under some sometimes very stressful situations. I get tremendous feedback from all of them, but I want to just single out a couple of them, not to anybody else's criticism. But I'm hearing wonderful things about veterans services, and I'm certainly hearing, you know, wonderful things about parks and recreation regarding the public outreach that has been associated with the park. And, Mr. Brougham, thank you for your remarks, sir. Certainly, the construction of the regional park out there is one of the highest priorities for -- you know, just for me as the representative for the citizens out there, you know, that 30 percent of the kids we have that have been without a park are looking for it. But staff has kindly advised me that this fall when they get a hard number on what they think it's going to take to do it, that they will certainly support digging in and looking at the methodologies to support it. So, Mr. Brougham, I hope you'll stand at the ready to come back when that time arises. Finally, I would also like to say that Mr. Carnell's public services department is now involved and interjoined in our economic development efforts through two specific managers and efforts, and that is Michelle Arnold, who's doing very, very good work with our Immokalee CRA Advisory Committee. That's a tough one, and it's active as can be. And, you know, with this new Promise Zones, you know, fasten your seatbelts, and also something that other commissioners might not have noticed, but Tish Roland at extension; extension is also networked in our economic development and directly related to our accelerator through Vanessa Belima (phonetic), who's a new staff member out there, doing extraordinary job. She was instrumental in Page 72 June 16, 2016 putting on a workshop out in Immokalee on how to start a food-based business out there, one of the two workshops in the state of Florida which had PhD staff member Susan Owen come down from Gainesville. So, I mean, our University Extension Service division is networked with our economic development, so my thanks and appreciation to you-all. CHAIRMAN FIALA: And, finally, Commissioner Hiller. COMMISSIONER HILLER: It feels like The Voice. I feel all our chairs should be turned, and then as you do your presentations, we should turn around and, like, hit the button, you know. No, I want you in my studio. That's all I wanted to say. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Oh, okay. Well, that was cute, nice. Thank you very much for a great presentation. It looks like you get really high marks, every one of you. Thank you. MR. ISACKSON: Commissioners, next up will be administrative services. Administrative Services MS. PRICE: Good morning, Commissioners. For the record, Len Price, Administrative Services Department. And I am going to give you an opportunity to go and have lunch because I'm going to be extremely brief. I've always believed that if you don't hear a lot from my department, it's because we're doing a good job, because what we do is all the behind-the-scenes work that makes sure that everybody else gets their work done. With that, just a few little comments. This year we are going to be focusing -- the budget that we've brought you is going to be a focus on hitting deferred replacement of vehicles, of equipment, of our infrastructure, improving it from an IT perspective, from a building Page 73 June 16, 2016 perspective. That is going to be the total focus, as well as our -- on our human resources. We've got a lot of new program initiatives. We want to make sure that we're competitive in the market, that we're providing good service to the public, and we're going to start improving there. Obviously, we're going to be focusing on compliance, on following the rules, working with our procurement section. We're going to try and improve our processes so that maybe we can make things flow a little bit more smoothly by having pre-meetings and post-meetings to get all the issues out in the open. We've actually started that practice, and it seems to be very promising. We've got some challenges coming to us with some changes in the laws and the rules regarding workers' comp and unemployment, so we're going to be tackling those and making sure that we stay in full compliance. Our emergency services are gearing up on a preparedness side. We feel like we've dodged the bullet for a number of years, and we're starting to get a little nervous about that, and so we're going to start really focusing on exercising our equipment and our knowledge and our plans to make sure that they're all ready for us just in case we need to use them, and hopefully we will not. EMS, under its new chief, is preparing strategically for the future. We're going to be taking a look at our processes and making sure that we're doing everything as well as we can, as our goal -- it has always been our goal to be a world-class service provider. With regard to that, you had asked us to take a look at our billing, and I'm just going to give you a very brief overview of that. What we've learned is that we're collecting about 66 percent of what we bill, and about 60 of that is from Medicare and Medicaid. So we've looked at what would happen if we changed our rates. If we lowered them, our collections would go down because that 60 Page 74 June 16, 2016 percent would stay the same, and so then the insurance companies that pay would have to pay less. Obviously, if we increase them, we could earn a little bit more. We are somewhat in the middle in terms of the rates that we charge statewide so, you know, there's some room to do that if that's the will of the Board. We're continuing to work towards fire consolidation again this year and taking that a little bit further. This year's budget includes a modest increase in our staffing. Primarily it's converting temporary employees to permanent employees, most of whom have been with us for a long time. So it makes good sense to keep them on board and keep that knowledge in-house. With that, I forgot to introduce my team, and so I'm going to ask them to do that and, for the first time, I publicly I want to acknowledge that Allison Kearns has agreed to join our team temporarily to fill in for the retiring Joanne Markiewicz in Purchasing. So this is the first announcement, and I will send out an email acknowledging that fact as well. We've just been a little overwhelmed recently. So if I could just start at the end, we'll just introduce everybody. MR. LINGUIDI: Good morning. Dennis Linguidi, Facilities Management, Government Security. MS. BUTCHER: Good morning. Tabatha Butcher, Chief of your EMS department. CHIEF McLAUGHLIN: Good morning. Alan McLaughlin, Chief, Ochopee Fire Control District. MS. LYBERG: Good morning. Amy Lyberg, Human Resources. MR. SUMMERS: Good morning. Dan Summers, Director of Bureau of Emergency Services and Emergency Management. MR. BERRIOS: Good morning. Mike Berrios, Information Page 75 June 16, 2016 Technology. MR. CROFT: Good morning. Dan Croft, Fleet Management Director. MR. WALKER: Good morning. Jeff Walker, Division Director, Risk Management. MS. PRICE: And I will entertain any questions you might have. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Do you know, I don't have a button on, I don't have a light on. So it looks like everybody has done so well that nobody even has a question about it. Thank you for being here. MS. PRICE: Thank you. MR. SUMMERS: Thank you. Thank the Board. MR. OCHS: Commissioners, next up is our Public Utilities Department. Public Utilities DR. YILMAZ: Good morning, Commissioners. And for the record George Yilmaz, Public Utilities. First, we sincerely appreciate your policy guidance all the way from enterprise funds to managing our reserves, has helped tremendously over the years and give us north star. We thank you. We also thank our County Manager and Office of Management and Budget for their support and continuous guidance in this process so that we are in compliance with board-approved policies, guidance, among others. This proposed budget enables the department to deliver essential life-sustaining services to our customers who is -- not just the customers, residents here, but also customers that -- transitional but also customers that visit us. So they all become our customers, and we have the peaks and valleys in our demand and supply curve that we need to meet and have our infrastructure to do so, and we thank Page 76 June 16, 2016 you, giving us funding and resources both operational and capital, to meet those demands that is changing faster than Dow Jones Industrial. And I'm also pleased to report that we are in compliance with all federal, state, and regional rules and regulations, and also we go above and beyond in terms of QA/QC and internal controls in our processes that provides additional assurance to our customers that is reflected in annual customer confidence surveys that we send out that simply gives them what they are drinking, what's in their IQ water, and what have you. I'm pleased today to report that Public Utilizes Department 2'17 proposed budget is revenue centric and meets all of the guidelines in the budget policy you have approved in February 23, 2016, agenda item under 11A. Now, my Financial Supports Director, CFO, will provide you with highlights and with the short script to give you sense of where we are, where we're going, and what the horizon looks like. Joe? MR. BALLONE: Thank you, George. And good morning, Commissioners, and thank you for having us here today. As you know, Public Utilities Department is comprised of two enterprise funds. That's the Collier County Water/Sewer District and Solid and Hazardous Waste Management. And I'll give you the highlights of each of those two fiscal budgets. And if you'll allow me, I'll start with the water/sewer district. In 2017, the utility plans to produce and distribute over nine billion gallons of potable drinking water; collect, transmit, and treat approximately seven billion gallons of wastewater, and distribute that as over five billion gallons of irrigation quality water to our customers and for the benefit of them, the visitors, and the tourists to Collier County, all meeting regulatory regulations 24/7 and 365. As an enterprise fund, our revenues are fees for service. There's Page 77 June 16, 2016 no government support. And those are spread across eight different funds, including operating, capital debt, and impact fee funds. Our capital improvement plan, our CIP, is funded at over $56 million in Fiscal 2017. That's almost a $10 million increase over FY16's approved CIP. So we're getting at a lot of that infrastructure that needs repair and rehabilitation. Those projects include, but are not limited to, pipe replacements, water main replacements, Basins 101 in Naples Park in the north and 305 and 306 in East Naples, as well as rehabilitation to -- and work across all of our four treatment plants. Our debt service of 18-and-a-half million dollars is fully funded, and we have no new debt programmed in FY 17. But just as a reminder, the Fitch rating agency has maintained our triple A bond rating. And recently Moody's rating agency has upgraded our utility from Triple A2 to Triple Al. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: That's an upgrade. MR. BALLONE: It's good news. Unrestricted reserves for the water/sewer district for operations and capital total $19.2 million, and that represents 50 days of operating in capital funding within the board-approved policy guidelines of 45 to 60 days. And, as George mentioned, the budget is revenue centric. I'll move to solid and hazardous waste next. The division meets all federal, state, and local regulations for solid and hazardous waste collection and disposal ensuring public health and safety while, all the while, increasing public awareness of the importance of recycling and waste diversion. As in the water/sewer district, revenues for this enterprise funds represent fees for service across multiple funds. You see the growth wherever you drive in Collier County. Customer accounts at the recycling center are anticipated to Page 78 June 16, 2016 exceed 63,000 customers. That's about a 22 percent increase over the prior year. Our FDEP certified recycling rate for Fiscal 2013 was 63 percent, and our goal is to reach 70 percent by the end of 2018 and the state mandated goal of 75 percent by 2020. Tonnage, as you would expect, at the Collier County landfill as well as the Immokalee transfer station, continues to increase, and those are up 5 percent and 17 percent respectively, and it's no surprise it's concurrent with the growth that you see everywhere you drive here. The capital improvement program for solid waste is funded at $4 million in Fiscal 2017, and solid waste is currently debt free, but we are planning to continue with a "pay as you go" in Fiscal 2017. In this division, operating in capital reserves budget, at $9.3 million in Fiscal '17, that represents 72 days of operating and capital funds, again, within the budget policy guidelines of 60 to 90 days for solid waste. And those really are necessary to initially respond to disaster recovery debris mission. And solid hazardous waste, as is with the water/sewer district, is revenue centric in 2017. These proposed budgets are in compliance with your guidelines and, as others have done, we respectfully request an approve -- for you to approve it. And I, along with the division directors and George, are here to answer any questions that you might have today. CHAIRMAN FIALA: First, how about if each person introduces themselves and tell us what their job is amongst that division. MR. BALLONE: Sure. If we can start with our Operating Directors to the left and move across. MR. MESSMER: Good morning, Commissioners. My name is Steve Messmer. I am the Water Division Director. Page 79 June 16, 2016 MS. JOHNSSEN: Good morning. I'm Beth Johnssen. I'm the Wastewater Director. MR. RODRIQUEZ: Good morning. Dan Rodriguez, your Solid and Hazardous Waste Management Director. DR. YILMAZ: Good morning. I'm George Yilmaz. I work for all of them. MR. BALLONE: And does a good job at that, too. And again, Joe Ballone, the Financial and Operations Support Director. MR. CHMELIK: Tom Chmelik, Director of Planning and Project Management. MS. CURRY: Amia Curry, Financial and Operational Support Manager. MR. BALLONE: Who, by the way, pulled all of this together for you today. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Pardon me? I couldn't hear you. MR. BALLONE: By the way, pulled all of this information together in a nice packet to give to Mark to give to you. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Oh, thank you for telling us that. MR. BALLONE: Thank you, Amia. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Commissioner Henning? COMMISSIONER HENNING: Thank you. You're asking for new FTEs. Could you provide me -- it doesn't have to be now -- what your FTEs were at the peak. MR. BALLONE: Yes. At the peak they were actually -- I can tell you today. At the peak, water/sewer district employees were 357, and we will be at 410 in 2017. That averages about five FTEs per year over that time period. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Has your flows changed or -- you were -- did I write it down here wrong, 357 at peak? MR. BALLONE: Three hundred fifty-seven employees at peak, Page 80 June 16, 2016 yes, water/sewer district. COMMISSIONER HENNING: And you're proposing 410? MR. BALLONE: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Has your flows increased that much? MR. BALLONE: Flows increase according to demand. But just as a reminder -- COMMISSIONER HENNING: I mean, you haven't had any expansion of planning -- MR. BALLONE: Infrastructure -- COMMISSIONER HENNING: -- capacity. MR. BALLONE: The infrastructure has increased dramatically. And just as a --just to identify some of that, the conveyances of the infrastructure that the utility accepts at every one of the board meetings, so far this year through Tuesday's board meeting, you've accepted 19.9 miles of potable water main -- potable water mains; 403 new valves. And just a reminder, every one of those valves has to be turned every year; 209 new hydrants; and 44 new sample points. On the wastewater side, again, 19.9 miles brand new just this year in our -- that we have to maintain; 19.9 miles of gravity mains and force mains, 73 valves, 334 new manholes, and 14 lift stations. That's just since you started meeting in September. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay. Well, the capacity hasn't changed. Your capacity hasn't changed. DR. YILMAZ: Joe, if I might. MR. BALLONE: Sure. DR. YILMAZ: Commissioner, I think your question is strategic and right on the mark. The capacity, we have checkmark and checkbook that reserves our plant capacity against board-approved development. As board-approved development becomes reality, we issue wet permits. Then we have the field operations expanding even Page 81 June 16, 2016 though our capacity being consumed. And we're not increasing our FTE as much in the plants, but it's in the field all the way from Reflection Lakes to Publix fire flow (sic) all the way to northeast. And what your chief financial officer indicated, that it averages five FTE since the time frame you mentioned. That's about two-and-a-half crew, if not one-and-a-half crew, depending on the size. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Why don't you provide me the expansion in their job description. DR. YILMAZ: Absolutely. Will do, sir. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Thank you. DR. YILMAZ: Will do. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Very good. Commissioner Taylor? COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Well, I happened to go through a lot of old papers recently, and one of them -- I actually photographed the expansion of the Marco utility, the wastewater down on Marco, and in that magazine they talked about bioreactors, another thing. Where are we with -- are we doing this, or what's happening with this? DR. YILMAZ: Commissioner, I think that that's another very good strategic question, and the answer is yes. We have been working on it last 23 months, and we are, as we speak, going through RFP review for a national search and some international technologies that will take biosolids, septage waste, and grease trap waste and turn it into renewable energy and also turn it into natural gas, and remaining inert material is going to be more suitable for -- close enough in terms of quality for organic farming, sole supplement and fertilizer. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay. So we're moving in that direction? Page 82 June 16, 2016 DR. YILMAZ: Yes, ma'am, we are moving in that direction. The only difference is that ours includes grease septic waste and also it includes septic waste. The difference is one comes from restaurants, which is one waste stream that we have no facility in Collier County to treat, and very few facilities nearby. The other one is septage waste. As you know, not all our customers are in utility system all the way from Immokalee to Collier County. So we did have great deal of customer base on septic tanks, and we want to make sure that we do have a sustainable infrastructure that we can provide that service locally and -- however, transportation side of it is going to be market driven. We just want to make sure that there's a complying means and methods of disposal of those wastes that no one wants to touch. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Well, the City of Naples knows how important it is because of what's going on behind the post office in the septic, and -- but it's also important, as you say, to allow them to remain on septic if it isn't, you know, a threat to our water table. And water is wound into all of this, so I'm delighted to know that it's moving ahead. DR. YILMAZ: Absolutely, Commissioner. Without taking more of your valuable time, just to mention that we're not walking alone on this endeavor. Our County Manager's general guidance has been if you're going to initiate something sub-regional or regional, and if there's optimization in terms of breakeven and -- so we have been in communications with our City of Naples utility and, verbally, they are on board, and they want to join us -- COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: That's good. DR. YILMAZ: -- subject to seeing the details. So we are -- we are engaged with City of Naples in concept. Once everything gets to the point that we know dollars and cents -- COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Right. Page 83 June 16, 2016 DR. YILMAZ: -- this could easily be helping our city's as well as nonutility customer base who have septic tank and -- but they don't have means and methods of disposal within the Collier County in a large scale. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Thank you. Thank you very much. DR. YILMAZ: My pleasure. CHAIRMAN FIALA: What -- I remember last year, I think it was, where you had an award that was the best-tasting water, I think, in the state of Florida, right? DR. YILMAZ: Yes, ma'am. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Do you still retain that? DR. YILMAZ: We got the sub-regional. We're going to go for national next year. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Oh, really? DR. YILMAZ: And our compliance manager lease working on improving (sic) the water. CHAIRMAN FIALA: How I wish that I had city -- I mean county water, because that would be wonderful. I hear it's just -- I don't get to taste it, but I would love to sometime. I should get -- I should come into some of your departments and take water out and put it in water bottles or something. Thank you. Let's see. I have one more. That's Commissioner Nance. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yeah. Dr. George, are they using your water in the new brewery up there at Creekside? I'm just asking you. You know, they might owe you a commission if they make a lot of money, you know. If it's the best-tasting water. But just a side, one comment I just wanted to make is, the septage management issue is very, very important. One of the reasons is, if we come out of our Growth Management Plan here with an overlay of low density for the Estates, which I think is going to get Page 84 June 16, 2016 supported and I think is rationale and reasonable and a benefit to the county as a whole, that's going to mean that we are going to need to operate septage properly, not only at the installation and homeowner basis, but also in managing the waste stream. And although you don't reach out and cover the whole county, because we're rural and because we don't want this material discharged into the environment improperly, I think we need to have the appropriate facilities that can reach out and cover it, you know, on an enterprise basis. Just to recover our costs, make sure that that's available. It's a good thing for our county and a good thing for our conservation in remote areas to encourage these people to do the right thing without an excessive and unreasonable cost. So thank you very much in your efforts. DR. YILMAZ: Thank you. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Thank you. And with that, I have no more questions for any of our members. And we thank you all for being here. Very interesting. DR. YILMAZ: Thank you. Thank you very much. CHAIRMAN FIALA: You're doing a great job in that recycling. MR. RODRIQUEZ: Thank you. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Just super. MR. ISACKSON: Commissioners, if we can have our -- change up the batting order just a little bit, if there are no objections, we can go to management offices. We have Mr. Dorrill, the CRAs. We can get them dispatched and back to their work -- CHAIRMAN FIALA: Great, good. MR. ISACKSON: -- if you don't mind. CHAIRMAN FIALA: That's a very good suggestion. MR. OCHS: Go ahead, Neil. Management Offices (Pelican Bay) Page 85 June 16, 2016 MR. DORRILL: Good morning, Commissioners. I started to offer Steve Carnell $20 to present my budget this morning. It's sort of -- as was the case when that was Leo's division, it kind of turns into a love fest every year, but it is interesting to listen. Just as a brief introduction, it's been almost 180 years ago since Florida created its first community improvement district. In 1822, the territorial legislature -- Florida was a territory -- created the Florida Road Highway and Ferry Act. It did not have taxing authority or power, but it gave the district manager the ability to go out and conscript labor with the militia. So can you imagine me going out through Pelican Bay and, with the help of the sheriff, rounding up a bunch of conscripts to cut the grass every day. It's kind of interesting. In the late 1960s and early 1970s, Florida's two pre-eminent community improvement districts were created. One of them was called Reidy Creek, which is today Walt Disney World, and the second one was the Pelican Bay improvement district, which is now a world-class community and vacation resort. Our budget next year, I'll focus on the primary operating fund, which is Fund 109. That's our non-ad valorem based fund. We do have a fairly significant increase in the fund only in percentage terms. You know the total cost currently per resident for the Pelican Bay Services Division is $518. It's intended to increase next year to $651, or about an 18 percent increase, but it works out to about $96, and that's primarily due to two things. We've had kind of a difficult and challenging labor model there within our landscape crew. We actually have about 15 groundskeepers that are county employees and, frankly, they come with a pretty high labor burden and overhead rate, and so they're now supplemented by contracted day laborers who come in two different Page 86 June 16, 2016 versions. The senior version is able to operate our mowers and our Kubota equipment, but we now have more contracted day laborers trying to perform the landscape function than we do, actually, county employees, and that was intended to save money. The community as a whole, and our board voted 10-1 to recommend the increase to you for the coming year. And the increase is primary attributable to two things. They're increasing their cash flow reserve. Your fiscal policy, I believe, sets reserve targets from 12 to 30 percent cash flow. Our target is increasing next year. They'd like to have it around 18 percent. And we also have a new four-man crew. Again, in this case, it will be day laborers because the community as a whole really wants to see higher service levels. They feel there has been a lot of deferred maintenance there. They want to increase the amount of new landscape installation. And so those are sort of some of the highlights. There's no change in the Fund 111 subsidy. It remains at $150,000. They continue to be very proud of their stewardship role with respect to Clam Bay. No new or expanded services there. And that's kind of a quick overview, and I'd be happy to answer any questions. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Thank you. None so far. Community Redevelopment Agencies MS. JOURDAN: Good afternoon. MR. ISACKSON: No, I'm sorry. Go ahead, Jean. MS. JOURDAN: I'm sorry, Mark. Go ahead. MR. ISACKSON: Please, no. Go ahead. MS. JOURDAN: Good afternoon. Jean Jourdan, Bayshore Gateway CRA. Page 87 June 16, 2016 The CRA's proposed budget for FY 17 the proposed personal service budgets is in compliance with budget guidelines. I want to thank Ed Finn. He's instrumental in assisting our department to ensure that everything is in compliance, and he's very, very helpful to us. Our operating expense budget increased for planning services for 50,000 to a big, whopping 70,000. We also have budgeted 50,000 for our grant program in order to assist commercial businesses coming into the area. Of course, our transfer to our debt service remains our biggest budget obstacle that we have right now. So we're just keeping on functioning until we can get this debt paid off. We also had the Haldeman Creek MSTU which they're basically still just collecting their funds in order to dredge in the future. And then the Bayshore beautification MSTU, they're moving forward to construct -- design and construct the Thomasson Drive pathway pedestrian project, and additionally, we're looking into an interconnection from Bayshore to Sugden. We're continuing with our landscaping. We did have a lot of landscaping issues this year because our irrigation system kept breaking down. It's finally up and working, and so we're moving forward. Any questions, I'd be happy to answer them. COMMISSIONER HILLER: I just really like what you're doing. MS. JOURDAN: Thank you. COMMISSIONER HILLER: I love that area. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Me, too. Michelle? MS. ARNOLD: Well, I'm here for support. As you-all know, that recently the CRAs have been reorganized under my division, and Page 88 June 16, 2016 I'm here to support Jean and Christy. And I'll turn the mike over to Christy so she can talk about the things that we're doing in Immokalee. MS. BETANCOURT: Good morning, Commissioners. We're pretty much the same budget as last year. We're a little bit lower. We do have three full-time positions. We just hired -- we're hiring a staff in June -- on June 27th, so that alleviates some of the stress that we're under. But we're pretty much maintaining the same; same thing with the CRA. Our budget is about 160- for operating -- 163- for operating. The -- we remain the same for the commercial facade grant, which has been really popular this year. We hadn't had any commercial businesses applying in this year. We've had at least five wanting the grant. But we're still at one a year, so we're trying to already -- we probably already have one lined up for next year. So that's still good. And we have the sweat equity grant that's slow. We're having people apply, but nobody has been awarded the grant, so we're still keeping the funds there, 15,000. We do have the repayment of the $30,000 that we're paying for the business development center. That's our repayment. Other than that, everything maintains the same. For the MSTU, same as well. COMMISSIONER HILLER: You're doing a great job. MS. BETANCOURT: Thank you. MR. ARNOLD: There's a lot of great things happening in both of the CRAs right now, and there's meetings about the accelerator programs that are out there. And the designation that was just announced is exciting. So we're looking forward to a lot of new things in the future. COMMISSIONER HILLER: It's exciting. And the areas are really gentrifying. You can really start seeing Page 89 June 16, 2016 the change. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Commissioner Nance? COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yes. I don't know that this is completely the best time to mention this, but since it's so intimately related to what Michelle just mentioned and Christy in the CRA in Immokalee, the establishment of the Promise Zone, I think to take full advantage of that, that is going to have to take very, very careful consideration on the part of the County Manager since the CRA and the County Manager agency is working directly together I think in a much improved organization -- organizational design. I don't know exactly what is going to be necessary to accommodate and take full advantage of the Promise Zone, but I would suggest to you that perhaps there's going to have to be -- and it is completely appropriate to have some sort of a staff allocation. I don't know if current staff can handle that or if there's going to be additional FTEs that are going to be necessary to do the job that, you know, can take full advantage of that. But I think it would absolutely be justified because I think that benefit is going to come right back and circle right back into our economic development and jobs creation effort. So in whatever incarnation the County Manager best thinks that additional horsepower needs to be applied, I would look forward to, you know, his full consideration and review of staff to figure out how we can really get engaged with this and capture everything that's available. MR. OCHS: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER HILLER: I promise -- MR. OCHS: I promise. COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- to help you and Commissioner Nance with the Promise Zone. MR. ISACKSON: Commissioners, you also have Mr. Wert and Page 90 June 16, 2016 Mr. Sheffield if there are any questions for those particular areas. COMMISSIONER HILLER: May I just mention -- CHAIRMAN FIALA: I just wanted to say something while you're coming up -- if you don't mind, please -- I wanted to say I read in the paper a couple days ago that Matname, Matame (phonetic), however you say it, just bought that Arboretum village area for 8.7 million. MS. JOURDAN: They did. CHAIRMAN FIALA: So that means we're going to see some improvement going in there. MS. JOURDAN: They closed. CHAIRMAN FIALA: That's right across the street from the Botanical Garden, for anybody else who doesn't know that. And congratulations. I know you've been working on that for a while now, so that's a good -- that's a nice, good thing happening. Pretty soon you're going to be picking away at that loan and get it out of the way. So that's wonderful. And I also read that the Trio, that hotel that's supposed to be -- MS. JOURDAN: Fortino. CHAIRMAN FIALA: -- building right at the point there, they expect to start construction in October. MS. JOURDAN: Correct. CHAIRMAN FIALA: That is a wonderful thing. We need some things like that in this area. We don't have a hotel in East Naples yet. So we'll be using that for the pickleballers, I'm sure. Okay. Would you like to wait until the other two people got their -- COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Sure, sure. I just had questions. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay. And I'll just keep -- okay. MR. WERT: All right. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Jack? Page 91 June 16, 2016 MR. WERT: Thank you, Madam Chair. Management Offices (Tourism) Jack Wert, your Tourism Director. Coming off a really, really spectacular 2015/2016, we're looking for and really monitoring the international economy and certainly the U.S. economy as well. Definitely seeing some slowdowns, some leveling off. And so we've been very conservative with how we have budgeted next year. We're keeping our marketing budget exactly the same as it was last year. And we think we can adequately market the destination over the entire year as has been our case for the last couple of years. So we're looking at, perhaps, a 2 percent growth in the tourist tax revenue. It's -- it continues to grow, and we certainly anticipate that it will. We're actually seeing the summer months pick up some now, which is a really good sign. Keeping our staffing the same as it was at 11.75 FTEs, and we're managing the budget and certainly the four funds that we oversee: Our administrative fund, the marketing fund, our emergency fund, and the grants fund. And, boy, there's good news there, I think, in our grants this year. We had a lot of help from the private sector. A committee was pulled together to look at why our -- especially our non-profit grants were not being requested in the numbers that we had in the past. We made some very decided changes in the application process, in the process for getting reimbursed for those grants. And I'm happy to say that we got some renewed interest there. We've got the Artis-Naples and the Naples Botanical Garden working together in a joint project this year to bring an origami exhibit to both places at the same time. So they'll have an outdoor and an indoor Page 92 June 16, 2016 exhibit as well. This is a traveling exhibit that is exactly the kind of event that we were looking for in the non-profit sector. Also, the Children's Museum has come back for a funding request as well, again, for traveling exhibits. So there's that family market that we're really trying to build here in Collier County. And on the marketing side, we've got several events that we've gotten applications for this year. You've certainly seen the growth of the Stone Crab Festival each year, and we're definitely going to be trying to help them again to grow that event again. The Bacon Festival has gotten to be quite popular and is on the grounds of the Naples Airport, and it looks like this is going to be a growing event as well. So we're going to help those organizations. Also, the Seafood Festival in Everglades City, we're going to be assisting them again with a grant request. So we've got a lot of good things going, some good excitement. And I've got to say, along with the pickleball and so forth -- and, Commissioner, you were listening in on yesterday's Sports Council meeting -- I have not heard such excitement in this community about sports and events and bringing young families and so forth -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: BMX. MR. WERT: -- to the area. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: BMX wasn't there. MR. WERT: They weren't there, but cricket was. COMMISSIONER HILLER: I know, but they'd be considered -- they didn't even know that the county could help them, and that's why we want to bring them in. That's why they were here. MR. WERT: Absolutely. We're going to talk to them and -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: A thousand spectators. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Well, thank you for that about the pickleball. Page 93 June 16, 2016 MR. WERT: So, definitely, we're going to continue to grow sports. We see that as a wonderful opportunity to fill in the times of year when we really do need business and we can look for events that fit into that time frame. So very excited about what next year is looking like. But, again, we're going to be conservative and do what we can to keep -- truly, in a down or a slower economy, if you're level with the previous year, which was a huge win for the community, then I think we're going to be good. And the final thing is, job growth continues to be really good in the hospitality and tourism sector. We're at 64 straight months of job growth now. So we're very pleased with that. And the governor has recognized our county twice for that kind of job growth, and we want to see that continue. I think that helps to fuel the entire economy. CHAIRMAN FIALA: All that with 11 employees. Will you believe that, huh? Wow. Amazing. MR. WERT: We're doing it. Smoke and mirrors. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Mike? MR. SHEFFIELD: Commissioners, hi. Mike Sheffield, your Manager of Communication and Customer Relations. And I'd be happy to answer a few question or give you a few highlights this morning. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Can I comment on Mike's? CHAIRMAN FIALA: Sure. COMMISSIONER HILLER: First of all, thank you for all you do. MR. SHEFFIELD: Thank you. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And to all of you. I mean, you're all doing a phenomenal job. A lot of what you-all do goes directly to economic development, and as a result, you're very important and, obviously, from my perspective, sitting as chair of economic Page 94 June 16, 2016 development, I really care that the message gets out as to what we are doing and how we can help. And to that end -- and I've talked to Leo about this, and I've talked to Mike about this -- I really hope to see a greater impetus in messaging about the economic development initiatives on the part of county government. And I don't think the community knows what's out there by way of grants, as you have an example. We just heard from the Immokalee CRA that has a grant available that goes to economic development, but people don't know how to apply, they don't know how to -- they don't even know that it's out there if they do know how to apply. And we need to get the word out. So, you know, like I've said, you know, we really need to commit resources and efforts towards the messaging so that we can continue the trend of job creation and stimulation of the industries that have been key, like tourism. So whatever you can do to make that happen, Mike, you know, working with the team here, working with our economic development office, working with the accelerator, get the word out about the services we can offer, about the incentives that we offer to make sure that people outside the community as well as inside of the community avail themselves of it and we continue what's been very successful to date. I think that's probably my biggest concern, and that is we're not getting the word out. And, Leo, I hope you're committed to that -- MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am. COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- you know, especially in this arena in economic development. We need that. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Thank you. And, Commissioner Taylor? COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Jack, I understand the room was Page 95 June 16, 2016 overflowing last night, 46. Usually it's 20, and they double. MR. WERT: Seventy -- we had 70 people in that room. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes, in the Sports Council. MR. WERT: Amazing. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And you're right, I mean, I was listening by phone. But the excitement -- and it was boom, boom, boom, we can do this, we can do this, we can do this, we can do this. And that's just -- that's just the professionals that -- out there, not the public. And the pickleball just -- they -- I mean, it was wonderful. It was energetic. It's -- sports -- I've been told it's raining sports in Collier County, and I believe it now. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Cute. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: There's no question. And everyone is energized, and we've got the BMX issue and things. So, you know, it's hard -- you've got a staff that does a lot of other things. We've just got to carve out some time, or if you come back to us and ask for something, maybe we might consider it because the -- it was wonderful. And, you know, for me not to see their faces but to hear their voices was even better because I could hear the excitement, the way they talked and the speed with which they talked and how they interacted. I mean, this -- we have such an energized community to move sports ahead, you know, these amateur sports. CHAIRMAN FIALA: We haven't even tapped the new reef yet and the new sport of scuba diving, right? Boy, oh boy. And amplified fishing now that we're getting some of our fish population back. That's -- you know, that's a whole other thing that -- you know, sports are going to take over, which is good. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Here's the thing. When I started on this board, sports weren't even discussed. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yep. Page 96 June 16, 2016 COMMISSIONER HILLER: And then we brought on, you know -- because as you know, I am sports obsessed a little bit. I mean, actually a lot. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: No, you're not. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yeah, no. So I'm so glad to hear -- because as I move off the Board, I'm really excited to hear, Commissioner Taylor, that you and, Commissioner Fiala, that you're both passionate about sports as well and that you'll carry this on -- COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Oh, yeah. COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- because when I started, there was, like, no mention of sports. Then we started a sports marketing division, and Jack and I were tirelessly, you know, with the athletes in the community from the Nats, you know, to -- which are the tri-athletes, to Gulf Coast runners. And I mean, I can't begin to tell you how much I thank you for what you have done in really promoting this as a segment of our tourism market that was untapped and which has gone into the shoulder season, which was another concern that I saw that it was not -- we were not getting the maximum return on the investment in the tourism infrastructure that we had here. We were well, well below capacity, and this has really made a significant difference. So I really hope that you both, Commissioner Fiala and Commissioner Taylor, like, keep it up. And if I can help in any way, you know -- CHAIRMAN FIALA: We'll rope you in. COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- I will. Rope me in because I am -- that is such a big deal. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Our chairman doesn't want to announce this yet, but she is starting to take secret pickleball lessons because next year she's got -- Page 97 June 16, 2016 COMMISSIONER HILLER: Well, I just -- I want to make an announcement, too. I am not going to do BMX. I mean, absolutely not. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Commissioner Henning? COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah. Just an observation. Most of the comments today were not questions about budgetary. They're comments about the operations or personal things. I'm here for the rest of the day; however, I hope in the afternoon that we can respect the staffs time and the time that we take up from them. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Well, I think staff has done an outstanding job, and I think they deserve the recognition we're giving them as part of bringing forward budgets that reflect what their past performances and what their future performance is intended to be in a fiscally conservative and responsible manner providing the highest level of customer service. I think this board recognizing them and at the same time, you know, applauding them for their budgeting is a good thing. CHAIRMAN FIALA: And, Mark, did you want to do anything else, or should we break now for lunch? MR. ISACKSON: Ma'am, it's 12:17. Are you looking for an hour break? We have the constitutionals scheduled at 1:00. It's your choice. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Let's come back at 1:00. We can do this in 45 minutes, eat. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Yeah, okay. MR. ISACKSON: Very good. MR. OCHS: Back at 1 with the constitutionals? CHAIRMAN FIALA: Back at 1:00, yeah. MR. OCHS: Thank you. (A luncheon recess was had.) Page 98 June 16, 2016 CHAIRMAN FIALA: Good afternoon. The meeting will come back to order, please. MR. ISACKSON: Commissioners, first up in the afternoon are constitutional officers, and we'll begin with Jennifer Edwards, Supervisor of Elections. Supervisor of Elections MS. EDWARDS: Good afternoon. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Good afternoon. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Good afternoon. MS. EDWARDS: I want to introduce my staff. You-all -- most of you-all know them. This is Melissa Blazier. She's the Chief Deputy Supervisor of Elections, and Alex Breault is my Assistant. I have three things to tell you today. Number one, our budget for next year is approximately $3.7 million. That's a 9 percent decrease from the current year budget, and that's because we only have one election in next year's budget. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Well, we can approve that now, and you can go home. MS. EDWARDS: All right. I do like to remind you, though, of our equipment. And not this year's budget, but next year's budget, when I'm sitting here before you, I will be asking for about $360,000 to add to what we already have in our 301 reserve to meet mandated equipment needs. And the third thing is to say thank you so much for our new facility. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Oh, it's -- yeah. MS. EDWARDS: Thank you. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And it was -- it's wonderful. M S. ED WARD S: It's wonderful. Page 99 June 16, 2016 COMMISSIONER HILLER: It was so necessary, and I think it's going to really -- well, you know, the level of service out of your office has always been very high, I think it's going to really take it over the top. You have a -- you really made the right decision when you -- when you saw the need to consolidate into one space. MS. EDWARDS: Thank you. But I couldn't do it without you-all. And the county staff has just been outstanding to meet our needs, be responsive, and we appreciate that, too. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And I'm glad that you vacated that space now because I'm hoping now it will turn into a county gym. No, I'm not saying that's what will happen. But wouldn't that be great, you know. We could all do yoga at lunch. I mean, that's just -- CHAIRMAN FIALA: Well, speak for yourself. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Okay. You can -- we'll do an indoor pickleball court for you. COMMISSIONER NANCE: I was going to say, I smell indoor pickleball. COMMISSIONER HILLER: That's great. MS. EDWARDS: I always give credit for compliments like that about the great work we do to our wonderful staff. COMMISSIONER HILLER: No question. MS. EDWARDS: There are 22 of us, and -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: They're well-deserving. MS. EDWARDS: -- everybody works really hard to provide the best service we can. CHAIRMAN FIALA: You know, I don't have any lights on here that says that one of the commissioners want to say anything, so it looks like your visit was short but very sweet. Thank you very much for being here. MS. EDWARDS: I appreciate that. Thank you. MR. ISACKSON: Next up, Commissioners, is the Clerk of Page 100 June 16, 2016 Courts. That's led by Ms. Crystal Kinzel. Clerk of Courts MS. KINZEL: Good afternoon, Commissioners. For the record, Crystal Kinzel, Finance Director. And I have with me Raymond Milum, who is our Accounting Manager. And I want to -- I want to add to the compliments this morning, particularly for the county staff, the budget office in particular, that works with us on our budget and throughout the year, also the constitutional officers that we work with in preparing all the financials. It takes a whole army of people to do this, so we appreciate them. On May 1 we provided the Board with a book detailing the Clerk's budget. We are -- that's it. Thank you, Commissioner, for holding it up. We are only six-tenths or less than one percent of the county's overall budget, and our increase this year is 180,500 that we're requesting from the Board. We are in compliance with the Board's budget guidance. We are requesting below the comparative counties percents of increase for the year, so we're below those. We adhere to the county's pay plan guidance for our employees, and we participate in the county's insurance at the same levels. I know that's been a concern of the County Manager, and I wanted to point out that the Clerk continues to follow the county plan on insurance. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Thank you. MS. KINZEL: And we are not requesting any new positions in this budget. We're holding status quo and hope to have another successful year at the Clerk's Office. Page 101 June 16, 2016 COMMISSIONER NANCE: Thank you. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Thank you. CHAIRMAN FIALA: I looked through the budget. It just looked great. I don't have a complaint in the world. MS. KINZEL: Thank you. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Commissioner Hiller? COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yes, thank you. I do have a number of questions. The first is -- is as it relates to what you're charging for services with respect to public records. MS. KINZEL: Yes, ma'am. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And, you know, most recently there was a case where there was a lawsuit between you and -- or not you, but -- by "you" I mean the Clerk's Office and Gina Edwards, a reputable reporter who sought public records and was overcharged, and the Court found that she should not have been charged by the page for documents that were already stored electronically but rather she should have only been charged for the disk. And so, you know, obviously what the Clerk's Office had done, I'm sure, is what the Clerk's Office has done in the past, and based on this ruling, I'm not sure how the Clerk can assume that the fees derived from records requests would remain the same given very clearly that a dollar per page will no longer be the charge for documents that are already electronically stored, which I would assume and I would hope would be the majority of your documents. And I'm talking about Board documents. I'm not talking about the court side of the Clerk's Office. I'm talking about the Board's side. So if you could explain how that's going to work. And tying into that that the cost for public records to the public has to be equal to your actual costs. I mean, you can't make a profit on these fees. And I want assurances that you are not generating a profit on the fees that you are charging the public. Page 102 June 16, 2016 MS. KINZEL: I can assure you, Commissioner Hiller, we're following the statutory guidelines and/or any court case resolution for our fee estimates. Public records are something that you really can't determine. We left it the same as last year because we may get additional records requests. We may not. Anytime you're estimating your revenue -- there may be no public records requests next year or there may be double what we had last year. We left the revenue estimate as -- the same as last year, but we certainly will follow all of the laws regarding public records. COMMISSIONER HILLER: But -- so just -- so really this is not a real budget then, because I mean, you must -- what percentage of your record -- MS. KINZEL: It is a real budget. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Let me -- no, it's not a realistic estimate. What percentage of your records are electronic versus non -- you know, versus hard copy that would fall under the very narrow exception that was identified in the Edwards ruling where you could charge up to a dollar per page, like, because it was for a specific function, like internal audit, as an example? MS. KINZEL: And remember, Commissioner Hiller, it really isn't -- we're very electronic and automated. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Are you? MS. KINZEL: But also -- it also depends on the data and the format of the data that's requested. We can also charge computer time and staff time for additional requests. So you can't just tie it to how many records would we have to do at a dollar, how many records would we have to do at 10 cents. It will be a combination. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Right. MS. KINZEL: So it's a real budget. It's a real estimate, but it is Page 103 June 16, 2016 an estimate, especially when you're dealing with publics records revenue. We have no idea what the total are. But, obviously, if we don't produce the revenue, we would have to cut the budget somewhere else. That's why we have a budget. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And so I understand, as of right now there is absolutely no surplus in the matching between what you're charging the public and what the underlying cost is to generate those records? Like, there's no margin where you're, you know, having -- MS. KINZEL: There is no profit embedded in that. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Okay. MS. KINZEL: It would be the actual costs of the -- pursuant to the statutory requirements for charging for public records. COMMISSIONER HILLER: So for the benefit of the public, just so that they know exactly how you're charging or you're going to be charging is if something is electronic, like in the case of the records that were requested by Gina Edwards, it would be the cost of the disk, correct? MS. KINZEL: Commissioner Hiller, I -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: Because that's what it would take to download? MS. KINZEL: -- I'm not going to address a hypothetical, if you don't mind because -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: It's not a hypothetical. It's a court order. MS. KINZEL: The nuances -- CHAIRMAN FIALA: Let's just talk about the -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: But it's important. MS. KINZEL: Commissioner Hiller? COMMISSIONER HILLER: It's very important. Page 104 June 16, 2016 MS. KINZEL: I'll be glad to go back and explore any question that you have on that. COMMISSIONER HILLER: That would be great. MS. KINZEL: Each public record request that we get has particular nuances, as you pointed out, whether the record is electronic, whether the electron (sic) paper, how much time it takes to gather the information, how much does it cost to produce the disk, is there computer time involved in generating it, all according to those statutory elements. So to sit here and say to the public, oh, if you come in, we'll charge you 10 cents or we'll charge you $1.50 is really pie in the sky or asking me to determine something in advance. We need to understand the public records request, and we do that with each and every request to our office. COMMISSIONER HILLER: So what you're telling me is that the public doesn't have any certainty, no -- there's not, you know, a stated fee schedule -- MS. KINZEL: Yes, they do. The fee schedule is posted on our website, and they can refer to that website in both our records and recording fees and also the court fees for public records. So those are all posted. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And it's going to follow this most recent ruling and will respect, you know -- MS. KINZEL: We always follow the law, ma'am. COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- the 15 cents a page. Hmm? MS. KINZEL: We always follow the law. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Well, clearly not, because the Court ruled against you. But let me continue. The next thing that I'd like to ask -- and this is very important. I have a real concern as to what source of revenues you're using for your litigation fees, and I'd like to know where you are drawing -- Page 105 June 16, 2016 where you're pulling those dollars from in order to pay for the litigation where you sued the County Manager and the purchasing agent and, most recently, where are you pulling the fees from to pay for Mr. Pires in the most recent garnishment case? So if you could provide that information for me. I mean, I would -- MS. KINZEL: Sure. I'll be glad to provide that later. What we have budgeted in the budget for litigation or legal fees is all supported by the recording fees that the Clerk generates. COMMISSIONER HILLER: By recording fees? MS. KINZEL: Recording fees. COMMISSIONER HILLER: But how's that possible? Because the recording fees can only be offset by the cost associated with providing -- MS. KINZEL: No, ma'am. That's public records. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Oh, you're talking about -- I'm sorry. Recording, yeah. MS. KINZEL: Recording of documents. And that is a fee that the Clerk earns and is under the Clerk's budget. COMMISSIONER HILLER: So he's -- I'm sorry. So he's pulling the revenues to pay for this litigation out of recording fees? MS. KINZEL: Yes, ma'am. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And there's no matching requirement for recording fees that the fee that you charge for recording -- MS. KINZEL: No. COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- is offset by the cost of recording? MS. KINZEL: No. Those are set statutorily. COMMISSIONER HILLER: So whatever surplus there is in how you provide that is going towards the litigation against the county? Page 106 June 16, 2016 MS. KINZEL: It's being used for several things. It's used to offset some of the costs of the Board's activities. We use a portion of that revenue to offset the recording department costs as well as about, I think it's a million eight -- MR. MILUM: MIS and part of administration, part of the accounting, records management is all offset by this. MS. KINZEL: Are offset by recording also. COMMISSIONER HILLER: I'm looking -- I'm looking at recording, and in your budget where are the legal fees identified as part of this budget? MR. MILUM: They're in the administration department. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Are they separately identified as a line item? MS. KINZEL: Yes, they are. MR. MILUM: Yes. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Okay. Can you refer me to specifically which -- MS. KINZEL: Sure. COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- line item? COMMISSIONER HENNING: She's using the Board's budget book and not the book that was provided by the constitutional officers. MS. KINZEL: Oh, okay. That's fine. There is no line item in the item that is prepared by OMB. They consolidated to the operating and those levels. If you go to the Clerk's submitted book, there's a specific line item for that legal fee. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And those are the legal -- so just for -- okay. I understand. That's great. I appreciate that. And -- MS. KINZEL: Those are budgeted on Page 32, and there's a highlighted note indicating that those legal fees come from the Page 107 June 16, 2016 recording fees. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And the other question -- the only -- and this is my last question. You've had a number of-- well, they're personnel related questions. The first question is, what, approximately -- and I know you probably don't know this off the top of your head, and you're welcome to come back to me, but if you know it, I would appreciate it. What is the turnover that you're experiencing in your accounts payable department? You said you had about how many people, 20 people in there? MS. KINZEL: We -- I think it's about 14 that actually handle accounts payable. We have revenue and also payroll. We've had a significant turnover in our accounts payable staff COMMISSIONER HILLER: And what, approximately, is the percentage turnover? MS. KINZEL: You know, I would have to go calculate that. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Could you? MS. KINZEL: I know we've lost three in the last eight to 10 months out of the 14 or so. COMMISSIONER HILLER: I would appreciate it if you could let me know what the turnover is -- MS. KINZEL: Sure. COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- because that, you know, goes to the cost of operations, obviously. It makes it more difficult and most costly when you have that high of a turnover rate. What -- you've had a number of openings in your internal audit department. You've had postings that have been up there for quite some time and they're not being filled. MS. KINZEL: Luckily we have two interviews scheduled for next week, so we're very hopeful that we'll be able to fill those positions. Page 108 June 16, 2016 COMMISSIONER HILLER: Well, keep me posted about that, because, you know, some -- I think one of them has been open -- hasn't it been open about a year? Haven't both been open that long? MS. KINZEL: No, no. COMMISSIONER HILLER: How long have they been open? MS. KINZEL: We've had a couple of people in the positions that may have moved on. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Oh, I see. So you hired people -- and so you've had turnover there also? MS. KINZEL: We've had turnover in internal audits. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Okay. Got it. So you anticipate you're going to fill those positions? MS. KINZEL: Yes, ma'am. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Okay. Because I was going to suggest that you cut them out of the budget if they hadn't been filled. MS. KINZEL: Oh, please don't. We do definitely need them. We're running short-staffed in internal audit, and it is very difficult to hire, you know, internal auditors with experience, particularly at the rates of pay. I think now that the economy is bolstered in other areas, particularly accounting skills are highly marketable, and we're -- I think that's one reason that we're seeing the turnover. We're in competition with the private sector. We're in competition with board departments. So there's a lot of additional opportunity that allows people to change. So we are definitely hoping to fill those positions. COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, no. I completely understand that. Lastly, with respect to, you know, your audit function, there was an Attorney General's opinion -- letter, I should say, and they were citing Alachua, and it came to you in August, the 9th, 2012. And what that letter highlighted, that besides your duty to pre-audit for the Page 109 June 16, 2016 benefit of the Board, that you also had a duty to audit constitutional officers? MS. KINZEL: No, ma'am. COMMISSIONER HILLER: No? MS. KINZEL: No. COMMISSIONER HILLER: It says, as an arm of the Board in auditing the records of constitutional officers. MS. KINZEL: No. COMMISSIONER HILLER: No? No need to do that? MS. KINZEL: We do not do that. We audit the Clerk. We have a guardianship auditor that is paid by the Court's function who works with the court side of the Clerk's operations, but not the other constitutional officers. COMMISSIONER HILLER: You don't do that? MS. KINZEL: No. COMMISSIONER HILLER: No. Well, it just says that in this -- you know, and they were citing Alachua. I was just curious about whether -- MS. KINZEL: That might be a different county construct. Perhaps a charter county has different requirements or different ability to audit, but in -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, it was -- MS. KINZEL: -- Collier County we do not audit the constitutionals. COMMISSIONER HILLER: This was addressed to Dwight Brock. I'll give you a copy of the letter. You can take a look at it. And when was the last time you audited your payables department with respect to compliance to the Prompt Payment Act? MS. KINZEL: We review that every day, every month that we have -- paying disbursements. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Have you done -- have you done Page 110 June 16, 2016 an internal audit on yourself with respect to that? I mean, I've noticed that a number of other counties do that. MS. KINZEL: No, we have not done a formal internal audit on that function at this time. We did it -- we review the payables on a continuing basis, obviously, so we can meet the Prompt Payment Act each week with payments and checks being cut on the over 100,000 invoices that we handle. COMMISSIONER HILLER: I would suggest you look at what other counties have done to audit their payables department, and they have done formal audits to determine compliance with the Prompt Payment Act. And I would suggest that you consider adding that to your list of proposed audits. MS. KINZEL: We will certainly consider that, and I hope to get those other positions to help handle some of that. Thank you. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Thank you. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay. Commissioner Henning? COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah, it's the duty of the Board through its external auditor in working and in concert with the Clerk of Courts to audit the constitutional officers, and that's the comprehensive audit report that we get every year. MS. KINZEL: The external auditors actually audit each of the constitutionals independently, and they attest to each of the audits for each of those constitutionals, and it is included in your comprehensive CAFR, absolutely. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah. It's presented to the Board. MS. KINZEL: By the Clerk's Office. We prepare the consolidated package. But each constitutional does prepare their own financial statement. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Well, there are no other questions here. Just from me personally, I think you did a fine job. Page 111 June 16, 2016 MS. KINZEL: Thank you. CHAIRMAN FIALA: I think you were very conservative in your budgeting, and there's no complaints. MS. KINZEL: We try. Thank you very much, Commissioner. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And I want to take this moment to thank our County Manager because yesterday I believe he, at my request, continued an item from Tuesday so that the Clerk's Office would have an opportunity to meet regarding the contractors. And I understand -- and I guess, Ms. Crystal, you need to speak to it, but the County Manager made it possible, and I understand it was a very successful meeting. MS. KINZEL: I believe so. Nick and I just talked about it before we started the afternoon session, and we think it went really well. I think the vendors were able to assert some of their frustrations. We were able to take those into consideration and have a little bit of a controlled plan moving forward, so we're hoping that this will really make a difference. Absolutely, good news. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Thank you, County Manager. MR. OCHS: You're very welcome. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Very good. MS. KINZEL: Thank you. MR. ISACKSON: Commissioners, next will be the Sheriffs Office and Sheriff Rambosk. MR. OCHS: Hello, Sheriff. Sheriff SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Good afternoon, Madam Chair, members of the Board of County Commission. Thank you for the opportunity to talk a little with you about our budget request. As I've mentioned in the past, today gives me an opportunity, Page 112 June 16, 2016 which I like to take advantage of, to recognize some of our members on what they do for Collier County, and I want to do the same today. And I'll keep it brief. But a big thanks go to the men and women of the Collier County Sheriff s Office for accomplishing many, many more things than I'm going to get a chance to tell today to keep Collier County safe, but it's the number one element of why we work together so well with the community, with government, with business, and it makes a significant positive outcome. We have members of our finance team here, but I also like to introduce -- and I know you know all these men and women -- but Chief Bloom from operations; Chief Hedberg is not with us, from our legal counsel; Chief Roberts from corrections. He's unable to be with us; Chief Smith is here with us; Chief Schmelth (phonetic) from community outreach is not with us today; and Chief Williams is unable to be in attendance. But this is my opportunity to recognize and thank each one of them for helping guide and run the day-to-day operations that produce the results. So from me to our staff, thank you. I also want to thank our command staff, none of whom are here today. But, you know, we've committed to work together with the community, with government, with the school system, and I always like to recognize the terrific relationship we have with your staff, starting with you as the Board and your commitment to public safety; to the County Manager, who always resolves whatever issue that we come up with either by himself or through his staff; every member of your organization but particularly we work very close together with parks and recreation who help with our summer program. Your facilities staff-- here's Chief Roberts. Your facilities staff is absolutely excellent, and they're with us each and every day trying to keep us straight, and your finance Page 113 June 16, 2016 department that helps us get what we need and pay our bills. So we also work together very strongly with each of the fire districts throughout Collier County, and EMS, who are our closest partners, and want to thank them. As in the past, I've stood before you and let you know that the crime rate in Collier County was down in years past. It remains down. And we had a reduction of about 3.1 percent last year. It is the lowest recorded crime rate in history. They've been keeping records since 1971. Traffic incidents, crashes, aggressive driving, unfortunately, are on the rise. And we're looking at our STEB (phonetic) unit which deals directly with traffic. We've implemented a number of initiatives this past year and will expand them particularly for aggressive driving, as that is becoming a nationwide epidemic problem and, unfortunately, it occurs here as well. We look to our volunteer core who, again, gave us nearly 32,000 hours and has saved us hundreds of thousands of dollars. And we had a chance to recognize them this year, but I like to make sure that you know we have such talented volunteers here throughout Collier County. Our Summerfest program we just kicked off last Friday night. It was at the water park. We had about 1,800 young people there. We have gotten terrific reviews. That program, as well as all the other summer and winter programs throughout Collier County, have grown over the last seven years from contacting 5,000 young people to today making contact with 40,000 young people. So, again, we appreciate your support, particularly in the parks and the Collier County school system where we actually have deputies assigned to gyms and open them so our neighborhood kids can find a cool place to play, particularly during the summer. We've done a lot of reintegration efforts through the -- our jail Page 114 June 16, 2016 and corrections element. We did more than 770 reentry plans. That's no cost, no additional cost to what we do in Collier County, but what it does do is it eliminates the potential to come back to jail. And our tracking right now is about only half return. So if we're able to keep people on the right direction and keep them out of the jail, that is our goal. Keep crime down; keep our jail, staff, and costs down and keep Collier County safer. So that's terrific. Our investigations department, in about an hour I'm doing a press conference which will be the second of our largest narcotics investigations this year, and I'm going to wait until we give that because we're -- the investigation's ongoing right now, and you'll be able to see that; we'll make sure that you get an update and press release as we do that. But a very significant case that will take hundreds or thousands of doses of drugs, cocaine off the street, both -- COMMISSIONER HENNING: From our streets? SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Our streets as well as Southwest Florida. So I'm sure you'll be pleased with that. We continue our crisis intervention training, our partnership with NOMI and David Lawrence Center trying to identify those who are in need of mental health. As you know, the jails throughout the nation typically become the mental -- largest mental-health facility in their particular counties. We have been working directly with them for years, as you know, trying do the 40-hour CIT training which is the number one training that agencies throughout the country are trying to get to provide. And I will tell you that between the City of Naples, Marco Island, Hendry County, and our deputies we have 953 trained law enforcement officers in the full 40-hour course which then enables us to identify people that need help and get them to where they need help. And in our county that's David Lawrence Center because the jail, while we can secure people, we don't have the ability to get them Page 115 June 16, 2016 to the right place. Community Outreach has done a terrific job. In fact, they were recognized this year from the SMILE organization, which is social media and law enforcement. It's an international organization. And in agencies with 150 people or more, your Community Outreach Department was recognized as the top in the nation for providing information to the public in a variety of formats. COMMISSIONER HILLER: That's awesome. SHERIFF RAMBOSK: That's very important. They put information out, get feedback back to us to help keep our community safer. And that really had to do with leadership, creativity, and innovation. And when you're looking at an international capability, that's a pretty strong award. COMMISSIONER HILLER: I think we need to recognize Chief Spell. She's on here -- SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Yes. Chief Spell and her staff is -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- and she's amazing. SHERIFF RAMBOSK: She's not with us, but she heads that. We also did receive stars in the arts award for our community gallery where more than not we have young people's art who -- some of whom are at risk that we recognize and make sure that our residents have a chance to see that. We turned on our 911 communications center, at least the first six elements of it out of the 13. The CAD, computer aided dispatch, computers went on in January. Locution had actually been in place a little bit before that for multiple dispatches of equipment. The automatic vehicle location system or more commonly known as closest unit response now is fully operational, on board with all districts, and we're currently working with the City of Naples to bring them on board. They had a delay because their CAD system or their MIS system, rather, was on its last legs, and that has got to work Page 116 June 16, 2016 together. So they will be coming on. And as an example, to let you know just how well that works, with closest unit response, of course, getting the closest appropriate unit for your emergency, as I sat in the corns center in March when it was turned on, within two hours an emergency call on Crayton Road came up, an ambulance that was assigned to North Naples that was down at Naples Community Hospital, I believe, was northbound on U.S. 41, about Parkshore Drive or that area. The computer found that ambulance that had gone back in service, dispatched it to the call, and a minute and 30 seconds they were at the scene. COMMISSIONER HILLER: That's great. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Well done. SHERIFF RAMBOSK: So that is a lot of work. A lot of credit to your staff, to our staff who implemented it, a lot of IT issues. And, you know, with any new thing, there's always little things that we're trying to work. But that's the way we want it to work all the time, and we're continuing to work on that. So a lot of other good things coming there. We will be one of the best centers in the country. There are about a dozen of them. And when all this is put together, we will absolutely be there. So that's very, very important. I wanted to touch just a second on active shooter and our reallocation of training, our policies and procedure changes, working together with fire rescue, EMS, to train not only in the event that we have an active shooter but to change mass casualty response protocols. We've been doing this since January. We've trained all our supervisors. We have a professional nation -- national company that has come in. We, unfortunately, were in the midst of training during the California event this year. That -- they were actually sitting there doing the training. And as we look at everything that has been Page 117 June 16, 2016 unfolding since, we are way, way ahead of the rest of the nation, for the most part, except for maybe the large cities who have very strong intel components. But we've added two things. One is we want to bring it to the public to make them more aware, no matter where they are, whether in Collier County or Paris or New York, of what they simply might do to help protect themselves and their family. And we saw -- not that I know that these people were here, but the family in Tel Aviv who heard gunshots who fled the area. It can happen anywhere. And we are very proud of the business connections we've made. A lot of businesses are calling us. They want to know what to do. And it's that connection of not only training but working together with community to keep people safe. A lot of different things. I'm going to skip over a number of them, but we have been recognized again, Sergeant Nicole Minick, Accreditation Manager of the Year from COLIA. That is a national recognition or actually a state recognition, and she keeps us on track. We are going for COLIA, which is the Commission on Law Enforcement Accreditation, accreditation for our corn center. We've actually had the inspection; we just had it. We are waiting for the response. We believe we will be favorably approved, and that will be in the end of July. So we'll let you know how that comes out. But we did very, very well. There are a lot of things that I'd like to include, but we can't. I'd like to thank you again for improving our jail facility. The air-conditioning project worked very, very well. The start of the D4 substation went very, very well. So we appreciate everything that you're doing. As we submit this year's budget, we have submitted it within your budget parameters, and that's always important for us to make Page 118 June 16, 2016 sure that we're working together with all elements of the county. And I would ask this, though: With what's transpiring throughout the world and the United States, I would like the opportunity to come back to you should we need some additional equipment, training, or staffing to address unfolding responsibilities that we may find ourselves having to provide. So with that, I will open it up to any questions that you might have, but more so, thank you for all of your support. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Commissioner Hiller? COMMISSIONER HILLER: Thank you. As you know, I think the service you provide is, like, the most important service that government does provide to the community. And you and your chiefs and your entire administrative staff and all your deputies have really gone above and beyond in protecting this community and doing an outstanding job, and I want to thank all of you for your service. With that, I do have some specific questions. To begin, earlier this morning we had David Lawrence present, and one of the asks that they had was an increase of funding of about 263,000 to further bolster their Baker bed facility. There was some discussion about a study that you're engaging in regarding the jail system and mental-health accommodations, and what I would like to know is your opinion and whether or not you support David Lawrence's request to provide additional Baker beds to help you and the community. SHERIFF RAMBOSK: I was not aware of the discussion, but I'll let the chief touch on specifically where we're going with the medical aspect. But I will tell you that I've been working with David Lawrence for some time because, you know, we don't have the ability to help people get better; only they do, or organizations like them. All we can wind up doing is housing and, ultimately, releasing and then putting that dilemma back out in the street. So in the past, Page 119 June 16, 2016 you might remember I've been here; I've addressed the Commission to support David Lawrence's request -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: You have, always. SHERIFF RAMBOSK: -- historically, and they greatly benefit us. But let me ask the chief to be more specific. CHIEF ROBERTS: Thanks, Commissioner. That's actually why I was late to the meeting, and I apologize, but I was on a conference call with David Lawrence Center regarding some issues with the jail and Baker acts. As many of you, I'm sure, have heard before, the jail becomes the refuge of last resort for the mentally ill in our community. And recently when you guys approved the master plan study, part of that was to look at potentially redesigning and reconfiguring the jail that we have to better fit the population that we have, not the numbers, because we have plenty of jail beds, but they're for the right types of people. At any rate, the issue with the David Lawrence Center is when the person is Baker Acted -- they are the community crisis center; therefore, they have to be involved in that treatment. When that person is also an inmate at the jail, under current circumstances, one, we have to transport them out there, which is a problem that I was trying to deal with in the conference call that we're working on to try and take advantage of telemedicine and some of these things, but we also have to wait for a bed. And, as you can imagine, an inmate in the jail waiting for a bed out there, sometimes three or four days, is not a good thing, because the sheriffs deputies are having to fight with them or medical staff are trying to deal with them and those sorts of things. So it becomes quite a problem for us as well as the David Lawrence Center. But from our own viewpoint, they're certainly trying to do as much as they can with the funding and the staff that they have, and Page 120 June 16, 2016 they're woefully behind in funding of staff-- COMMISSIONER HILLER: So you do agree that there is a need for them to provide additional Baker beds? Because it isn't your intent to create, you know, a Baker bed facility within the jail? CHIEF ROBERTS: It is -- they need to provide additional Baker beds for the community. Also, we need to have not necessarily Baker beds, but -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: Well, you need to have a separate CHIEF ROBERTS: -- housing areas. COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- yeah, housing to separate the populations. CHIEF ROBERTS: To separate the -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: That makes sense -- CHIEF ROBERTS: -- mentally ill from the medically ill. COMMISSIONER HILLER: But keep the Baker beds within David Lawrence. CHIEF ROBERTS: Yes. COMMISSIONER HILLER: All right. So you do agree with their need for additional -- CHIEF ROBERTS: They're constantly overcrowded for what they have for the crisis unit. COMMISSIONER HILLER: All right. Well, thank you for that. I have a few other questions. As always, in light of everything that's going on, I've always been very concerned about our schools. And every year I've been advocating for more and more funding towards our YRD program, and every year you have been increasing your presence within our school system from, you know, the very young to our teenagers. Are you continuing to do that? SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Chief? Page 121 June 16, 2016 CHIEF BLOOM: Good afternoon, Commissioners. Yes, Commissioner Hiller, we continue to move forward with adding staff. I don't want to get into numbers of-- COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, of course not. Yes. CHIEF BLOOM: The end game for the sheriff and myself, and obviously all of our staff and the community, is provide the fullest coverage, especially based after the horrific terrorist attacks this weekend. We all agree. The country's changed. COMMISSIONER HILLER: It has. CHIEF BLOOM: We're under attack, and some of our top priority targets, we believe, soft target, are our schools. So we continue to put 100 percent of our current resources and future resources dedicated to that, so... COMMISSIONER HILLER: And I'm glad to hear that. My concern was, you know, we had talked about it year on year, and that the commitment was to progressively increase your staffing. And I'm glad to hear that you're doing that. And I do understand -- CHIEF BLOOM: Yes, ma'am. COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- the issue of the numbers, and so I don't want to get into details. To that end, that population is also very vulnerable for another reason, and that is because of predators and cyber stalking. And you've started your cyber stalking program and, you know, educating the kids in schools about the danger of making contact with strangers online. That is an ongoing vulnerability. And I looked at your budget with respect to that, and I kind of question whether it's enough. I think you need more money than what you've allocated, quite a lot more. So, I mean, I know this is not final and I know, you know, every budget is, like I said this morning, a living, breathing document. I would really ask you to maybe look and see whether or not you Page 122 June 16, 2016 don't want more funding for cyber security for juveniles, because I do see it as a high-risk area. I'm always trying to increase your budget. I know you always want to cut it, but I always see areas where I think we can -- even though -- as great as you are and as much as you do, that -- I just don't think you can do enough. And this is one area where I think there's a great deal of vulnerability. SHERIFF RAMBOSK: And just to provide you some background, which I know you know, since we have such a strong presence in our school system, we're able to utilize those deputies to work on our sexual offender and predator checks which most other communities don't have, which is why we have a lot of contact and lot of people. Not to say that we will not continue to do more, but we've got a benefit that other organizations do not have. COMMISSIONER HILLER: No doubt. I just want to see that educational factor increased through you as opposed to through the school community so that these kids really understand, you know, from your perspective what the issue is and how it works. Because, I think, unfortunately, you know, in -- as non-law enforcement citizens, I mean, we have some idea, and I think the wrong messages are communicated, and I think the truth really needs to get out. So whatever support you have -- you need in the way of education for educating these kids about the dangers of cyber contact I think is extremely important. The next thing on my list goes to human trafficking. And to begin, I want to compliment you for everything that you have done to fight human trafficking in Collier County and to work with the Board on promoting the partnership to advance the public's understanding and involvement in fighting human trafficking. But, you know, most recently you promoted, and rightfully so, your victim advocate and turned that victim advocate into a detective, Page 123 June 16, 2016 which is great, and I love the fact that you have a dedicated detective -- you know, investigative team addressing specifically human trafficking, which is why you've been so successful. But have you replaced that victim advocate with another warm body? SHERIFF RAMBOSK: I don't know that we've replaced them yet today, but our intent is to replace. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Okay. And is that factored in this budget? SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Yes. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Okay. I want to make sure that it is, because -- SHERIFF RAMBOSK: It's included. COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- I want assurances that you do get someone, because it's a -- I do believe in victim advocacy, and especially if you're intending to get to prosecution and you don't want the victim to run away or be hurt again. In this particular instance, I think it's extremely important. SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Yes. And I'll check on that after today's other events. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And, again, you know, to the extent that there is anything that we're discussing that hasn't been contemplated in these numbers and, you know, if you do intend to add something, just let Mark know, and we will have a change sheet when we finally adopt the budget to consider these issues. SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Thank you very much. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Commissioner Taylor? COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Sheriff Rambosk, I understand from what you just said that you have a training, is that right, to teach entities about what would happen if there was -- SHERIFF RAMBOSK: An active shooter, yes. Page 124 June 16, 2016 COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: -- an incident, right. SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Yes. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And are we -- are we part of the list of entities you train? I mean, besides -- we know we have security, but I would think this would be reach out to the common person, too, no matter where they are. How are you doing that? SHERIFF RAMBOSK: We actually have been doing very well with that, over a thousand participants, 24 different organizations, whether they be homeowners association, businesses. You can go to our website to sign up. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay. SHERIFF RAMBOSK: We -- as we're out speaking -- I just spoke at noontime, and I encouraged the organization, as a group, that we would come in and provide that or any one of their homeowners' associations. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay. SHERIFF RAMBOSK: So we are growing day to day. What's more important than local, we have requests from all over the state of Florida. I was just talking to Lieutenant Rich Hampton last night, and they're looking for us to come and provide this training in different areas of the state. What we prefer to do is do a train the trainer so that we can keep our people here and let those be trained. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Thank you. CHIEF BLOOM: Commissioner Taylor, you want to give me a call, I can help coordinate that. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Oh, that would be great. Thank you. COMMISSIONER HILLER: I wish that -- you know, I know our staff has been briefed on those type of security issues. I think it might be beneficial if we as commissioners were also briefed by you, if that would be possible. I know it benefited Leo and Nick, but we Page 125 June 16, 2016 didn't have the opportunity to sit in when you had your experts talk to SHERIFF RAMBOSK: I'll be happy to do that and meet with each one of you. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And just share with us what you feel is necessary for us to know is appropriate. SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Absolutely. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Right now all I do is hit them with my purse. Commissioner Taylor, are you finished? COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yeah, thank you. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay. Commissioner Nance? COMMISSIONER NANCE: Sheriff Rambosk, thank you for your outstanding accomplishments on our behalf. I wanted to ask you something; it's really an inquiry that you might be able to help me understand. Does your office have any role in electronic business-related crimes regarding theft of communications, proprietary information, data systems, or anything of that nature, or is that all handled at the state level or higher? SHERIFF RAMBOSK: We do have an economic crimes unit that has a science and technology capability. I will tell you that we haven't done much of those investigations and typically work with the state -- COMMISSIONER NANCE: Okay. SHERIFF RAMBOSK: -- through their avenues. COMMISSIONER NANCE: I just wondered if you felt like you were going to be required to have -- in light of what's going on and what's taking place, if you anticipated that you were going to have to engage in this more directly at a local level, you know, and -- you know, it's kind of an open-ended question. I know you might not Page 126 June 16, 2016 have an answer, but I'm just -- I'm interested because I see a lot of incidents of this, and I'm just wondering how it's going to impact us locally here. SHERIFF RAMBOSK: It's going to. It actually has been. The utilization of technology, whether it be phones or computers, and our ability to forensically investigate those devices, we've actually got two trained persons right now. We've got to increase that number even just to do telephones; as simple as that. So we are looking at competent trained professionals that we can bring in, and that I actually considered as part of this future request that we may need to make of you if we can find that talent to bring them in here, but we do have a small cadre of people right now. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Because I think a lot of times somebody thinks that the only sort of cyber criminals we have are the Chinese or the Russians or somebody trying to come in at that level. I'm concerned about, you know, the gentleman that's in our own backyard that's trying to do harm or get into somebody's bank account or take advantage of somebody or get their proprietary information or their records or something. SHERIFF RAMBOSK: You're exactly right. And we don't think of it much, but everything we touch electronically now becomes part of the investigation as a resident or a business. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Necessarily. SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Yes. So, yes, we are -- that is an up-and-coming area that we need help with. And that also lends itself to your and your staffs help in trying to get the forensic science capability up, not only for processing and storage of evidence, but that investigative capability as well. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Thank you. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Have you noticed that nobody's complaining about your budget at all? I just thought I'd enter that in. Page 127 June 16, 2016 Commissioner Hiller, we'll finish up with you. COMMISSIONER HILLER: The cyber security issue is a very significant one, and soon you'll be able to recruit from the Navy. Annapolis -- I know all about the Navy now. I'm an expert. But they just recognized the importance of cyber security, and they built a -- I think it's like a 200,000-square-foot facility, and their first group graduates out of that program have just been put into operation. So, very clearly, it is the future. And, Commissioner Nance, you're 100 percent right, we're going to have to allocate resources to that because it is a -- it is the real threat down the road, besides the risk of mass killings. I forgot what I was going to say. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay. Well, then we'll just wind it up now. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Thank you. CHAIRMAN FIALA: I just want to tell you I had a constituent email me. She was just scammed. And she's a pretty smart cookie. And she said she knew what questions to ask and everything, and they still duped her and got her. And so she called you guys, and she said that you swooped right in on that. But, of course, there was nothing to do to get her money back. But, anyway, so we know you're out there for us. And we thank you for everything. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And I remember what I was going to say. We absolutely have to get the forensic center. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay. COMMISSIONER HILLER: We really need that. CHAIRMAN FIALA: And we still continue on. Commissioner Taylor? COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: One parting comment. Thank you, thank you, thank you for the work you do with the young people Page 128 June 16, 2016 in this community. How your outreach has made a huge difference in the future of this -- of this community, and it's because of you. And thank you very, very much for that. SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Thank you. We appreciate it. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Thank you, all. MR. ISACKSON: Commissioners, you have -- transitioning out of the constitutionals. You have debt service, which was covered in the County Manager's overview session, the County Attorney, and the Board of County Commissioners. If we could lump those together and take those -- any questions on those particular areas, please. CHAIRMAN FIALA: However you want to do it, we're with you. We're not going to do the Property Appraiser or anything? MR. ISACKSON: The Property Appraiser is a fee officer, ma'am. The Tax Collector's budget's not due here until August 1. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay. I just have his thing then. Okay. MR. KLATZKOW: I figure everybody else sat here. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Come and sit up in front of us. Take the hot seat, right? MR. KLATZKOW: There you go. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Go ahead, Jeff. County Attorney MR. KLATZKOW: Commissioners, I pretty much have the same budget this year as I had last year. Same number of full-time employees. I'm asking for, essentially, the same dollars this year as I did last year, and happy to take any questions. COMMISSIONER HILLER: I just think it's great that you've been managing the litigation load as you have. I mean, it's just -- over the years, you're -- it's less and less and less -- Page 129 June 16, 2016 MR. KLATZKOW: We have almost no litigation. COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- which is phenomenal. You know, when I started, you used to give me these litigation packages which were this big, and it wasn't, you know, one case. It was, like, five or six cases per page. CHAIRMAN FIALA: On each page. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And to see where we have gone really goes to your credit, because it means that, you know, we're doing things correctly, and that's extremely important. So, you know, that's very good. MR. KLATZKOW: Thank you. CHAIRMAN FIALA: We appreciate all your help -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yeah, we do. CHAIRMAN FIALA: -- appreciate all your help, too. Boy, a lot of guidance. I know that I can call him day or night; he's always there at the other end of the telephone. MR. KLATZKOW: Well, I have no life, so I appreciate the phone calls. COMMISSIONER HILLER: There is one thing. Jeff, there is one thing I'd like to ask, and this is just regarding our support of the Legal Aid Society. And I know how we pull that money in for them and make that allocation. But, you know, I've been thinking a lot about the whole affordable housing crisis, and one of the things that I think is really important is that we help people to also stay in homes. So to the extent that we have individuals who find themselves in financial distress and are facing possible foreclosure, you know, the Legal Aid Society has done a lot of work in that area to help citizens avoid foreclosure or deal with foreclosure if they're facing it. And so I was wondering -- and I don't know. This is the will of the Board, and I know a number of you are very supportive for the Legal Aid Society, as am I. If we could maybe find additional Page 130 June 16, 2016 funding beyond this 108,000 that we give to Legal Aid to help to see -- to be allocated specifically to assisting clients of theirs who are potentially going to lose their homes to help them stay in their homes, because that means less of an issue for us to, you know, deal with someone who, once again, is going to have a problem being housed here in Collier County, very clearly, because of those kind of circumstances. It would be a preventative measure. And I was wondering -- and you don't have to answer today, but maybe it would be worthwhile talking to the Legal Aid Society to what extent they have those type of clients now and if additional funding towards assisting those kind of clients could help keep these people from losing their homes and furthering the affordable housing problems that we have in the county. And so, you know, maybe an allocation of an additional hundred thousand which, you know, in our budget is very, very small, could be very significant to them and help towards that end. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Is Rural Legal Services also engaged in that? COMMISSIONER HILLER: I am not sure -- COMMISSIONER NANCE: I just don't know. COMMISSIONER HILLER: I don't believe they deal with those kind of issues. I think they deal more with the immigration issues and the trafficking issues as opposed to foreclosure issues. The Legal Aid is the one who has primarily, as I understand, been working on the foreclosures and, you know, tenant evictions and things like that. MR. KLATZKOW: With a majority support, I'd be happy to call Legal Aid and start a conversation. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Will that be okay? Just to see if there would be any way? Because it could be part of our overall affordable housing. Page 131 June 16, 2016 COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I remember, though, when we went through this in 2008/2009, Kathleen Passidomo led the charge. I mean, she was. She was very important. COMMISSIONER HILLER: She was very good at that. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: So they've got some kind of foundation. Whether they need extra money -- I'm sure they do. I'd like to understand what they need extra money for, what areas they'd like to cover. COMMISSIONER HILLER: I would agree. I mean, just explore the opportunity. I was thinking of it in the context of our affordable housing program and plan that we're working on developing because, again, you know preventative measures are as important as reactive measures. Any, again, we have to explore it. It's just -- it was something that I was wanting to bring to your attention in light of the funding that we give them. If you could look into it. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Commissioner Henning? BCC Office COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah, thank you. Well, before I address Mark's question, I want to say that the Board gives direction about the budget early on in the year, and all of a sudden we want to change it, we want to change the direction and allocate -- allocate more money. The time to do it, if the Board has concerns on certain things, is during the -- during the budget process. To -- from a whim, with foreclosures not what they used to, now all of a sudden we want to double somebody's budget. I just find that very interesting. But to get back to the question. On the Board's -- the Board of Page 132 June 16, 2016 Commissioners' part of the budget -- which is not in guidance. It's above guidance, and maybe that's because of the comments I'm hearing up here that it's not in the guidance, because we want to -- we want to get bigger. You know, an increase of administrative assistant? We're adding one more person? What's that all about? MR. ISACKSON: Sir, I think we were reacting to some conversation that the Board had about restoring the clerical position up front so we -- all we did was appropriate some dollars in there for that. And if the Board wanted to debate the issue, they certainly could. COMMISSIONER HENNING: What was the vote on that? MR. ISACKSON: I couldn't -- I couldn't tell you, sir. CHAIRMAN FIALA: I think we were just commenting on it, and we were asking them to go out and see about it, but our certain -- COMMISSIONER HENNING: Well, let me get back to my questions, please. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay. Well, I want to answer. COMMISSIONER HENNING: It has to be by the majority of the Board. So did you have a majority of the Board's support to increase the staffing in the Board's office? MR. ISACKSON: I understood it that there were -- there was a majority, so that's why we stuck it in there, sir. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Was that a polling, or was that actually an agenda item? MR. ISACKSON: I don't think it was an agenda item, sir. I think it was just some nods that came from a session that the Board had. And I don't know. It may have been after under communications or something like that. I couldn't tell you exactly when it took place. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay. You've got increased Page 133 June 16, 2016 travel. I mean, you've got three commissioners that are not going to be traveling next year, and we're going to increase it, increase the allocation across the board? MR. ISACKSON: Well, sir, it's -- I think some commissioners, as you just indicated, travel more than others, and we've got five individual cost centers plus a catchall cost center in the Board's side of the house. COMMISSIONER HENNING: What's -- the catchall is for FAC, isn't it? MR. ISACKSON: Well, no. It's actually an area where if a particular commissioner goes over their travel or goes over certain areas, we can dip into that pool of money to -- COMMISSIONER HENNING: Why don't you provide us the breakdown for the last two years. MR. ISACKSON: We can do that, sir, certainly. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Yeah. Right now we took on a new one, which was the NACo. Now, it's true that I haven't -- I didn't go to California or I'm not going to California, which is the next thing. I just cannot do that. But they have three conferences a year where all of the -- all of the states get together and the counties within the states, and they have these giant things. And I sit on the board for the energy environment and land use committee, so -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: Commissioner Fiala, you do great work. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Can I finish, please? May I finish? CHAIRMAN FIALA: Sure. COMMISSIONER HENNING: May I finish? CHAIRMAN FIALA: Well, I was just explaining the extra travel. You asked. Page 134 June 16, 2016 COMMISSIONER HENNING: Well, I asked staff for the breakdown of travel of the commissioners. I think it's very, very important to fully understand the budget and where the money's going. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Including gas -- COMMISSIONER HENNING: So anyways, I'm going to go ahead and finish before I get interrupted again and again and again. What's with the additional software that we need in the office? I don't understand that, the IT, Microsoft. MR. ISACKSON: What page, sir? I'm sorry. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Page 6, the bottom footnotes. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Oh, IT office allocation. COMMISSIONER HENNING: IT Microsoft office. MR. ISACKSON: That's the initiative, sir, that we're changing some of our software. That's an allocation that we've got throughout the agency. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay. MR. ISACKSON: That's just an allocation. That's your portion of that particular item; that's all. COMMISSIONER HENNING: And cell phones; we're increasing cell phones? I -- they can have mine. MR. ISACKSON: I'll note that, sir. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: They'll have to answer your calls, and they can respond on your behalf. COMMISSIONER HENNING: You know, to have extra, you know, cell phones for five commissioners, I'm not sure. Why is the grant for the Collier County Health Departments on the Board's budget? It used to always be in public services, 50 million -- or $50,000. That's on Page 7. Grants and aids the amount MR. ISACKSON: I think that was just a placeholder, sir, in the Page 135 June 16, 2016 event that -- because sometimes that area runs over. That can easily be re-appropriated if that's an issue with the Board. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Well, I'm sure it's not an issue with the Board. I mean, I'm hearing more of them want to increase our budget. And then the final one is the remnants, including -- well, half of it -- let's see. Half of this -- remnants includes almost $2 million to the Naples CRA, 1.9 million to the Collier County share of housing in -- and, and it ends, feeding juveniles held in the state DJJ. That's -- wasn't that out of the County Manager's side of the budget last year? MR. ISACKSON: No, that's always been -- that's a section of what we call other G&A, sir, in the general fund. You've got two specific areas there. One is the DJJ cost. It's always been there, always been in this section. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay. MR. ISACKSON: And the other one is the Naples CRA, which is up $400,000 simply based on taxable value. So that's driving a lot of the increase. COMMISSIONER HENNING: The -- well, the DJJ, is that considered -- with the consideration of the bill that passed and to the reallocation of funds? MR. ISACKSON: You know, there -- and I also -- keep in mind, sir, I also used that -- used some of that money in the event that there's some unforeseen circumstances that occur during the course of the year, and there are many of them. So I also use that as a -- COMMISSIONER HENNING: A buffer? MR. ISACKSON: Yes, yes. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay. So $400,000 is coming out of the Board's budget because Naples City Council extended the Naples CRA? MR. ISACKSON: Yeah. Well, that -- they extended the CRA, Page 136 June 16, 2016 yes, and the -- and the -- I don't think people understood and realize that we -- we send over there the equivalent amount of our millage rate, the General Fund millage rate, have been for years, since that CRA was initiated based on taxable value. So they're getting two-plus million dollars a year, which is a substantial portion of their budget, the Naples -- their CRA budget. They also make a contribution from their General Fund budget, but it pales in comparison to our contribution. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Right. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay. And then half of-- that's where I read it, on Page 9, the budget also reflects half of the Board's annual approved park system contribution by the City of Naples. My understanding when that dope deal -- oh, I'm sorry -- that deal happened in mid 2000s, that that was coming out of parks and rec, the Unincorporated Fund. MR. ISACKSON: There's a General Fund component. There's a piece that's paid for from the General Fund that comes out under parks and rec. There's a 111 piece that we stick under other G&A out of 111 that's just happens to appear in this particular segment of the budget. COMMISSIONER HENNING: So the other half, the other half is out of the unincorporated area? MR. ISACKSON: No. The other half is taken from the General Fund 001, and it comes out of the parks and rec's budget, yes, sir. COMMISSIONER HENNING: But didn't all of it come under the parks and rec? MR. ISACKSON: No, not since I've been here, sir. It's always been this way. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay. That's all the questions that I have. Thank you. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I have a question. Page 137 June 16, 2016 CHAIRMAN FIALA: Thank you for representing everybody. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I have a question. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Oh, I'm sorry. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Are we going to leave the receptionist in the budget, or are we not going to? MR. ISACKSON: Well, maybe right now we need a vote to do that because I don't want to be caught. COMMISSIONER HENNING: No. I mean, if it was the majority of the Board, the guidance, then the majority rules, but I don't know if you need a vote. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Can I make a suggestion? Given that the Board is going to change -- given that the Board is going to change, why not just leave it in there? Because the budget is going to change based on many different factors throughout the course of the year. You're best off to leave it in here, and when the new board is seated, the new board may want a receptionist. And I don't think it's appropriate for us on our way out to eliminate this as a budget item and then you have a problem and then you don't get what you want. And you may not want it. I mean, the decision may very well be that you don't want it, and then you just eliminate it from the budget at that time. I mean, you're looking at November. You're looking at just a few months of it sitting in the budget and then -- COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: They're not going to be put in there next month? COMMISSIONER HILLER: No. I mean, it would be by the vote of the Board. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Doesn't start till October 1. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Right. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: October? COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yeah, October. So you're looking Page 138 June 16, 2016 at October and November. Like, to the middle of November. You're looking at a month and a half. COMMISSIONER NANCE: The money's not being expensed until someone is hired. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yeah, the money -- COMMISSIONER NANCE: It's not going anywhere. COMMISSIONER HILLER: No one is -- the money is not being spent. It's just sitting there as a budget line item that you guys can eliminate by your own decision at that time. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: You know, we have -- we have five aides in the office. And it's not that they don't work hard, but that's five people back there. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Yeah, but they -- COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: But they're not always back there. COMMISSIONER NANCE: I mean, what if I come to call on you and there's nobody there to receive me; what am I going to do? COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Go downstairs. COMMISSIONER NANCE: I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Go downstairs to the County Manager's Office. COMMISSIONER NANCE: My thought was simply to let the new board address it. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: But they won't know. COMMISSIONER NANCE: I didn't want to opine on it on the idea that -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: It sits as a line item. It's not an expenditure, and then the new board can decide. CHAIRMAN FIALA: You can't put it back in, but you can always take it out. COMMISSIONER NANCE: I'd rather have somebody do that Page 139 June 16, 2016 than have to make a budget amendment to add a new expense. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And, again, the purpose of this meeting today is a workshop to discuss these issues. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And then afterwards, you know, again, you're going to have line item adjustments. You're going to add and subtract throughout the whole year. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Well, you know -- and just to put it on the record, I do oppose it. I don't think it's necessary. It's -- I've heard enough issues about not having enough to do back there to feel that it's important to hire another person. COMMISSIONER HILLER: I don't disagree. I don't think it's necessary either, but I just don't want to speak for whoever my successor is in November. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: But they may not know either, you know. That's the issue. But just -- I'll put it on the record. Thank you. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Thank you, Mr. Klatzkow. MR. KLATZKOW: Thank you, sir. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Your shoes have wings. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Madam Chair? Madam Chair? CHAIRMAN FIALA: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER HENNING: My light is on. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't even see that. Please go ahead. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: We're not forgoing you, sir. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Well, okay. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Even though I'm short term. Again, if the majority of the Board directed that, that's sufficient -- that's sufficient enough for the change. It's majority rule. And I'm Page 140 June 16, 2016 okay with that, even though that I don't think it's necessary. Now, here's how my office operates. If you call into the office, there's a voice mail. You leave a voice message, and my aide and myself check that on a regular basis and, you know, deal with whatever we need to deal with. But everybody's different, and we're elected different. So however you run your offices, it is what it is. But I just want to explain that it can happen with five aides. MR. ISACKSON: If there are three nods to jettison this, then we can take it out. As has been said before, this is a -- the budget's a living document. We do 6- to 700 budget amendments a year to this document. So if there are three nods to take it out, we'll take it out, and we'll -- COMMISSIONER HENNING: Which way you want us to nod? MR. ISACKSON: It will be simple. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Nod if you want to take it out -- MR. ISACKSON: And I certainly apologize for putting it in. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Everybody -- the other four are just kind of quietly sitting here right now. We can always take it out at another time. Okay. Commissioner Nance? COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yeah, Commissioner Henning, I think that this board did very well on reducing and eliminating contract employees and employees in the County Commissioner's Office over time. Honestly, those changes that we made that were -- actually, we were pilloried for some of the changes -- have saved the county over $500,000 in salary and benefits annually. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Why do we want them back? COMMISSIONER NANCE: I'm just saying, sir, I don't think Page 141 June 16, 2016 it's -- I think the next board's going to do as they wish anyway, so... COMMISSIONER HENNING: Maybe we'll make it a campaign issue. COMMISSIONER NANCE: No, I don't think so. CHAIRMAN FIALA: You know what, when you -- no, I'm not going to say that. I'm going to stay quiet. Moving on. MR. ISACKSON: Commissioners, I think the County Manager has some additional information he'd like to put on the visualizer. Concluding Remarks MR. OCHS: Commissioners, this morning, at the end of my presentation, Commissioner Henning had asked for some comparative information about the peak fiscal year in terms of employee head count and population versus what's been proposed for '17, so I wanted to share that just briefly with the Board. So FY2008 was the peak of our employment or workforce head count at 1,969 FTE. At that time, we had a permanent population of 332,590. That equates to, essentially, one full-time employee for every 168 people. So when you look at that ratio compared to 2017 with 1,845 budgeted FTEs with a permanent population of 357,000-plus, that equates to one FTE for almost 194 people in the county, or said another way, if we applied the per-employee rate that was used in FY2008 to the permanent population that's projected for 2017, our FTE count for next year would be 2,115 FTE. So I think it shows that there's been some productivity gain over time, and your FTE counts for 2017 are still reasonable compared to the population. COMMISSIONER NANCE: So each county employee has to, in this budget, take care of and provide services to 193.6 citizens? Page 142 June 16, 2016 MR. OCHS: Versus 168 back in 2008. COMMISSIONER HILLER: That's great. MR. OCHS: Sir, does that respond to your question? COMMISSIONER HENNING: Well, it's -- well, it does, and the point is when -- in the budget it shows an increase of employees, new hires and things like that. You have to put it in perspective because we have eliminated, actually eliminated positions we're not replacing. It's not what's called replacement. In all fact, it is replacing as the budget revenue increases. That's my point. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Mr. Ochs, what does that look like if you eliminate the enterprise employees? That might be -- I mean, you know, now that we're playing this little analysis game, you could take a look at it and see -- MR. OCHS: Right. COMMISSIONER NANCE: -- you know, since we do things on an enterprise basis. And, you know, really, I like to do financial comparisons with and without the enterprise funding because the enterprise funding is supposed to tax, tag, and title pay for itself. So those numbers are interesting. And also, on your pie chart, I did want to mention, just for a budget review for the Board and for citizens, when you look at the pie chart that shows the percentage of revenue that comes from ad valorem tax dollars, I think if-- I think if you take that carryforward and consider that 70 percent of that carryforward is from ad valorem tax dollars, I think you'll see in raw terms your ad valorem tax dollars are approaching that 80 percent number that we continue to suggest is problematic. So it's not as if our reliance on fairly much a single source has been diminished. I don't want any citizens to think that somehow that's suddenly gotten to be a better number. So I'm just yakking now. We can -- Page 143 June 16, 2016 MR. OCHS: That's a good point, sir. Thank you. That was all I had, Madam Chair. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Thank you. COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, you were going to get the number on the housing. You didn't get that? MR. OCHS: I don't have that ready for you today, Commissioner. I'm sorry. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And I'd be curious what source you're using for that housing number for the unincorporated part of Collier County. MR. ISACKSON: It's the FGCU -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: Well, you know that the U.S. Census also has a housing census that distinguishes between the cities and unincorporated Collier County. MR. ISACKSON: The Southwest Florida regional economic indicator report for May of 16 from Florida Gulf Coast University, ma'am. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yeah, that's great, but I would also -- I don't know if they've come out with another housing census, but it would be worthwhile if you could look that up and see what that is for unincorporated Collier County versus, for example, the City of Naples, you know, and the other cities. MR. OCHS: Kim Grant's working on that right now. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Super. Thank you. MR. ISACKSON: Ma'am, that would bring you to public comment. CHAIRMAN FIALA: The newspaper just published something the other day that said the foreclosures are down, way down, and only, what, about 5 percent now are foreclosures versus what it -- what it was up to. So -- COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: But then on the other hand -- Page 144 June 16, 2016 COMMISSIONER HENNING: May I comment on that? CHAIRMAN FIALA: Sure. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: -- I heard -- CHAIRMAN FIALA: I'm sorry. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I listened to a report that said foreclosures may be down -- CHAIRMAN FIALA: Yeah. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: -- but what's happened is credit card debt is spiraling out of control. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay. So go ahead, Commissioner Henning. COMMISSIONER HENNING: So why would you want to double the budget of Legal Aid for foreclosures if it's -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: I didn't say we should double it. I said that we're asking the County Attorney to go and research to what extent they're dealing with foreclosures -- COMMISSIONER HENNING: What was the number that you understood, Jeff? A hundred thousand, that's what I heard. COMMISSIONER HILLER: I gave that as an example. I don't know what they need. That's why Jeff is going to call and find out whether or not there's a need. Because my point is, if we can avoid people losing their homes -- and, by the way, Commissioner Taylor, you're absolutely right. This was Representative Passidomo's cause, and she was actively working on this issue, but no one is working on this issue now. And as we were talking about that plan that we're asking, you know, citizens to be part of an advisory board and give us guidance on, I had the thought that it would not be a bad idea to see what we could do just to make sure, as a preventative measure, that we avoid it CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay. Page 145 June 16, 2016 COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- because I think we're going to have a financial problem again. I think this -- I think we're -- CHAIRMAN FIALA: Everybody knows that everything goes in cycles. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Absolutely. CHAIRMAN FIALA: So let's get back to the budget meeting, and let's just say, unless there's anything else -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aren't we done? COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Wait. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Yes, sir? COMMISSIONER HENNING: So you understand my point, then, with your comment of foreclosures being so low? CHAIRMAN FIALA: Yeah. It was just in the paper last week, so -- but I understand her point as well, but I think right now there's no urgency to it. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Commissioners, this is a workshop. This is a time when we're supposed to be able to talk about these things. I'm not offended by any discussion on anything, and I hope no one's taken my comments in the wrong context either. COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, not at all. CHAIRMAN FIALA: How could we? We love you. COMMISSIONER NANCE: It's just in the spirit of muddling forward, you know. I mean -- CHAIRMAN FIALA: And you do a good job of muddling. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Oh, I'm sure. Mrs. Nance would agree with you, ma'am. Thank you. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Anything else? County Manager? MR. OCHS: No, ma'am. Thank you for your time. COMMISSIONER NANCE: Do we have any public comment? CHAIRMAN FIALA: Mark? Page 146 June 16, 2016 Public Comment MR. ISACKSON: Not unless there's any public comment. That's all. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Any public comment? MR. CASALANGUIDA: No, ma'am. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Nick, anything to say? COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Oh, yes, we do. MR. SCHWERIN: Do I have to file the paperwork with the -- COMMISSIONER NANCE: Step forward, sir. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: If you dare. MR. SCHWERIN: Frank Schwerin from District 2, Delasol Lane. Thank you so much for this open meeting, and it was very instructive. Just the last bit on hiring a temp when you don't -- it's just like, you know, I signed up for Lifelock about four years ago, and I just saw I'm getting billed $80 every month, or whatever it is. Because it says, until you -- it's a free trial for one week, and nobody ever cancels it. So the trouble with hiring an employee is that's a life you're dealing with. COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, we're not hiring anybody. MR. SCHWERIN: No. If you were to hire somebody in October, you have a line item. COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, no. We're not hiring anyone in October. MR. SCHWERIN: We don't know that. There's a line item that would allow it. If you were to hire someone in October and say, you know what, we just had a vote in November or December, you're gone. I would say -- my recommendation, and put that on the agenda at Page 147 June 16, 2016 a future meeting -- I heard three people opposed to that that you added on without -- there could even be litigation about adding on a line item without a vote of the Board, which I might even consider pursuing that, you know, with consultation. You could add to your stack. No, it just doesn't make any sense to have a line when you have five people, according to the testimony of Penny Taylor, who are sitting around idle, clerks. CHAIRMAN FIALA: See, now that's kind of-- MR. SCHWERIN: Ma'am, may I talk for one more minute? (Two speakers speaking at the same time.) CHAIRMAN FIALA: -- painting (sic) the picture a little bit because although we have five aides, there are only two here. MR. SCHWERIN: You know, in IT people -- CHAIRMAN FIALA: The other three are not, Frank. MR. SCHWERIN: -- don't have secretaries anymore. It used to be in the old days you had your own personal assistant and a typist and a transcriptionist. Nowadays everyone is -- this is my secretary. I don't need a receptionist. It's kind of old-fashioned. But it makes you feel important when they can say, oh, the commissioner's not in. I think -- vote now to delete the line item, or put it on the next agenda, and it will become an issue, possibly, for a campaign, because it's constant. Every elected official wants to increase their budget. It happens from the top to the bottom so they feel important, they have all the fancy accouterments, the cars. The travel expense, unbelievable. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Like Commissioner Hiller suggested, let's wait until the new board. MR. SCHWERIN: No, it's like Lifelock. You don't sign up for a free trial for one month. It never goes away. CHAIRMAN FIALA: I'm not going to -- Page 148 June 16, 2016 MR. SCHWERIN: And I pledge to you, it's going to come back -- it's going to come back. It will never go away, and that person will be sitting there, and then the pension we pay for for the next 20 years. After they're long gone, after you're long gone, we're going to be paying for their pension for the next 20 years. Think about it. CHAIRMAN FIALA: Well, that's why we don't have anybody there now, Frank, so don't tell us it will always stay -- MR. SCHWERIN: Delete it. CHAIRMAN FIALA: -- because it doesn't. MR. SCHWERIN: Delete it. CHAIRMAN FIALA: And with that, Board -- Commissioner Nance, you want to finish it off? COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: No, I just wanted to address what Dr. Schwerin said, because I don't think it's a fair characterization, sir. I think in the last four years there has been a transformation, in fact, sir, in this office. Let me share it with you, because I think the public would appreciate it as well. When I arrived, the aides were working in a particular way that I think had been carried forward for many years. And I personally believed that it was because there were many commissioners that had served for a very long time, and it was kind of a system that was carried forward. It was advocated by me to set up the relationship between the administrative assistants and the commissioners so that each individual commissioner could utilize their aide in the manner that they thought appropriate, and that has occurred. And I think every one of these commissioners, if you were to ask them how they utilize their aides, Commissioner Henning and I do things vastly different. My aide travels across the county sometimes with me, sometimes without me. He represents me on things that I Page 149 June 16, 2016 cannot attend when I feel like it's very important. So they're used in many different ways. We use electronic devices in different ways. So this is evolutionary. And, you know, my input to the County Manager was very open-minded on the idea that three new commissioners were going to be sitting here, and I just wanted to afford them the opportunity to work through something that they might or might not support at their will without having to go -- having to adopt a budget and then go back and have a budget amendment immediately because there was a demand from a new public servant, and that was the spirit of it, sir. That's it. I'm neutral on it. You know, I don't believe that all these decisions should be deferred because there's going to be a new board. You know, I plan on working to the last day on which I'm on the payroll, but there are certain things that I just would like to be courteous about, and, you know, I'm -- I'm going to support whatever successor I have, and I'm actually working with every single candidate to make sure that they are able to serve the people of Collier County in the way that they see fit, and it's going -- and I'm going to help them to the extent that they ask me to. So it's just in that spirit, sir, nothing more. Okay. Thank you. CHAIRMAN FIALA: And with that, the meeting is adjourned. Page 150 June 16, 2016 ***** There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 2:30 p.m. BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS/EX OFFICIO GOVERNING BOARD(S) OF SPECIAL DISTRICTS UNDER ITS CONTROL DO A FIALA, CHAIRMAN ATTEST DWIQHP . BROCK, CLERK Attest as tg,C4rn1an's `s'ignature.only. 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