Minutes 08/10/1982 MEMO TO: Members of EMSAC
FROM W. Neil Dorrill, Public Safety Administrator
DATE August 19 , 1982
SUBJECT: Minutes of Meeting August 10 , 1982
In accompaniment, please find copy of Minutes from the
Regular Meeting of August 10 , 1982. Please review these in
order that they can be adopted at the next meeting on Sept. 14 ,
1982, at 4 : PM.
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Naples, Florida August 10 , 1982
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Emergency Medical Services
Advisory Council met on this date at 4 : 00 P .M. in the Board
Room, Building "F" of the Courthouse Complex with the following
members as indicated below:
CHAIRMAN: Egon Hill
MEMBERS: Jan Fillinger (Absent)
Dr. Hanns Ehrhardt
Sgt. Richard Davidson
Chief Jim Billman
Mr. David Graham
Mr. Tom Hafner
Mr. Marvin Cecil
Mr. Biff Comte (Excused)
Mr. Richard Akin (Excused)
EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS: Chief Norris Ijams
Dr. John Adams for
Dr. Wm. Cox
C. G. Whidden for (Excused)
Sheriff Rogers
STAFF ADVISORS: Dr. John Adams
Douglas Greenfield
Dr. Robert Tober (Absent)
W. N. Dorrill (Excused)
ALSO PRESENT: "Skip" Camp, EMS, and Billie Moyer.
AGENDA
I. Roll Call
II. Reading and/or approval of minutes
a) Regular meeting of July 12, 1982
III. Advisors Reports
IV. Old Business
V. Adjourn
EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES ADVISORY COUNCIL
August 10 , 1982
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF JULY 13 , 1982 :
Minutes approved as submitted.
ADVISORS REPORTS:
Mr. Greenfield advised that both he and Mr. Neil Dorrill had
been working with.the fire departments in developing a response
protocol. Recalling that he had submitted a sample response pro-
tocol for review to the Fire Chiefs last June, Mr. Greenfield
hoped to obtain enough information from the coming Fire Chief ' s
meeting on August 19 , to enable him to put together a formal recom-
mendation to present to the Board. He added that Chairman Wimer
hA'd expressed a concern in this area out of public concern and that
Mr. Dorrill had requested consideration of this in the next meeting.
Mr. Greenfield reported there was new information on the col-
lections but preferred to let the Chairman deal with the figures .
Mr. Hill expressed delight in reporting that the collections
for July were 88 . 3%, adding that he wanted to write to the Board
of County Commissioners giving them this report, but felt that it
was best to wait until the end of the fiscal year. Mr. Hill sug-
gested that to determine what we have accomplished and where we
stand, we collect the figures for 1 year and always check the first
month so that we have a cumulative figure and proportion of our
collections.
Mr. Greenfield mentioned that EMS had not had a budget review
yet and there had been indications earlier that there may not be
one. This however has been changed, and there will be one later
this week. Mr. Hill asked to be informed of the time so that he
could attend.
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Dr. Ehrhardt wondered if the increase in revenue had anything
to do with the remarkable increase in our rates . Mr. Greenfield first
spoke of the rate structure survey which Henry Hill had obtained from
the State of Slorida and was used as backup in presenting the Ececu-
tive Summary to the Board asking for a rate structure increase. He
pointed out that the concept of our rates having doubled is incorrect,
since the base rate had increased from $50 to $75 , ALS from $80 60
$85 , fluid was $10 and remained $10, oxygen was increased by $5 , and
mileage was increased $1 per mile. It is important to realize,
Mr. Greenfield said, that we have generated a lot more revenue than
anticipated as a result of changes made in collection policies and
by keeping on top of things on a daily basis .
David graham asked who figures out the operational budget and
Mr. Greenfield replied that this is done by the Fiscal Department
now. He added that a Profit and Loss Statement is issued by them
and offered to bring one to the next meeting. Mr. Greenfield said
he did not know of any Board policy requiring us to collect any
certain amount but that he had checked with Lee County and found
their policy has a resolution requiring them to collect 25% of their
total budget in revenue fees. Since this might give us a target to
shoot for, he felt this may be something which should be looked into
by this committee.
OLD BUSINESS:
TWO EMSAC RESIGNATIONS:
Mr. Hill announced that Tom Clark had resigned and had been re-
placed by Mr. Richard Akin, who had been excused from this meeting
since his presence was requested in Washington. Mr. Hill expressed
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regrets at the resignation of Dr. Greenfield, whom he felt was a
good man, with a lot of good ideas .
NEW BUSINESS:
NEW OFFICERS ELECTED:
Mr. Hill asked the Nominating Committee to name the persons
nominated for office for the next year 's Emergency Medical Services
Advisory Council and Dr. Ehrhardt, as Chairman of the committee,
reported that the following persons had been nominated:
Egon Hill, Chairman; Tom Hafner, Vice-Chairman; and Jim Gillman,
Secretary. One (David Graham) was opposed to accepting nominations stated.
Nominations from the floor were in order; none were made.
Accepting nominations as stated, the vote was as follows :
Egon Hill - Chairman - Unanimous
Tom Hafner - Vice-Chairman - One opposed (David Graham)
Jim Gillman - Secretary - Unanimous
Mr. Hill advised he will notify the Board of County Commissioners
of the new officers.
OLD BUSINESS:
Jim Billman asked how the collection percentage rate was de-
termined and Mr. Greenfield replied that this is arrived at by divid-
ing the amount of the current month' s collections by the previous
month' s billings, and in the cumulative column by dividing the current
month to year to date collections by the previous month to year to
date billings. He said he feels having the system under the Clerk
of the Courts is good, since it is governed month by month and is
audited at the end of the year and he could not ask for a better
recording procedure. Mr. Hill stated he felt these figures to be as
honest as they can be and that "we don't have to take second place to
any outfit in the state of Florida. "
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Norris Ijams asked if the collection rates were broken down
by different areas. Mr. Greenfield replied that there eleven (11)
zones in the County and that the new computer program is set up to
identify each individual zone.
NEXT MEETING:
The next meeting of the Emergency Medical Services Advisory
Council will be held on Tuesday, September 14 , 1982 , at 4 :00 PM, in
the Board of County Commissioner 's Chambers .
ADJOURNMENT:
There being no other business to come before the Council, the
meeting was adjourned at 4 : 29 PM.
Egon Hill, Chairman
Minutes Prepared by: Billie Moyer
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AGENDA
EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES ADVISORY COUNCIL
MEETING OF AUGUST 10 , 1982
I . Roll Call
II . Reading and/or approval of minutes
a) Regular meeting of July 13 , 1982
III. Advisors Reports
IV. Old Business
V. New Business
VI. Adjourn
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MEMO TO: ALL EMSAC MEMBERS
FROM W. Neil Dorrill , Public Safety Administrator
DATE August 2 , 1982
SUBJECT: Monthly Meeting
Attached is a copy of the agenda for the next regular
monthly meeting to be held on
August 10 , 1982
Board of Commissioners Chambers 4 : 00 PM
If for any reason you will be unable to attend, please
notify my office (774-8468) or Chairman Hill (261-0569) so that
your absence will be considered as excused.
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