Minutes 02/11/1983 EMPLOYEE ' S ADVISORY COUNCIL MEETING
Friday , February 11th , 1983
0920 Hrs . The meeting was called with the following members present:
Diane Flagg , Dave Kitchen , Jeff Page , Bill Peplinski , Terry
Ortengren , Debbie Lichliter and ( Denny Hare , alternate . )
0922 Hrs . The minutes were read from the last advisory council meeting .
The following issues were taken to the EMS employees by the
advisory council representatives and then re-discussed as
follows :
0927 Hrs . 1 ) What equipment should go on our back-up type II vans when
using them as a temporary replacement for our front line
type III vehicles?
Council suggestions were leaning toward the thoughts of
not switching the HLR, twin HLR and the NO2 into the vans
when using them as a temporary back-up . However , a few
feeling that NO2 should not be out . THe subject is still
under discussion and open for more suggestions .
0947 Hrs . 2 ) What are some suggestions on ways of securing equipment
in the type II vans that would create more space ; increase
safety by securing loose equipment ; provide more protection
for the life-pak 5 ; and still have easy access to the equip-
ment?
Council suggestions were as follows :
- Leave HLR tanks and NO2 out of the vans (when
using as temporary back-up . )
- Strap life-pak either on top of bench seat or
use a special padded floor rack to reduce jaring
life-pak internal circiuts .
- Leave med box on floor .
- Possibly , relocate main 02 tanks underneath bench
seat and construct compartments in old tank loca-
tion .
- Get rid of ambu box and place the ambu bag & mask
in a compartment in patients compartment .
- Replace smoked compartment glass with clear glass .
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- Consider training the Fire Department cn HLR
operation and let them carry HLR equipment of
ours on their vehicles .
- Give 505 ' s HLR to 510 ' s vehicle .
1010 Hrs . All of the above suggestions were brought in from the EMS
employees by their council members . No conclusions could be
reached until further investigation can be done on possible
enterior design changes ; measurements ; equipment arranging ;
and so on in the back-up type II vans
If any employee is interested in volunteering to help , contact
Doug Greenfield or your representative . Doug Greenfield has
asked that carpentry knowledge would be of great use on the
design changes and actual construction if changes were made .
1015 Hrs . 3 ) What are some suggestions to improve working relations
with City Fire Department at station 501 ?
Some council suggestions were as follows :
- Change EMS sleeping location out of the main
doorway and light .
- Have EMS provide cooking utensils at station
one , so that EMS does not have to use the City
Fire Departments utensils .
- Put a microwave in station 501 , taking the
microwave from Marco Island with the thought
that 501 many times has little time to spend
preparing food , due to the high frequency of
calls and would benefit more than a slower
station . Also , when 501 ' s cooking or eating
was interrupted , quick and easy reheating
could be done with a microwave . Marco has
more time on their hands to cook by slower ,
conventional cooking methods .
- Get more kitchen table chairs so that all EMS
and City Fire personnel could eat at once ,
instead of taking shifts at the table for a
place to eat .
- Have EMS crew at station 501 be responsible
for sweeping the bay floor where 501 ' s vehicle
sits .
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- When supervisory personnel meet between City Fire
and EMS, look into the possibility of suggesting
first one , first serve , in regards to use of
cooking utensils and eating table at City Fire
station 501 .
1040 Hrs . 4 ) Is their better time for changing shifts? The first advisory
council meeting noted a high frequency of calls going down
between 8 : 15 - 0830 hours .
Council suggestions to Doug Greenfield were that a large
majority of employees did not want a time change from 0830
hours at all , but if a change in shift times were necessary
for the purpose of decreasing EMS overtime expenditures paid
out to employees getting caught on late calls , a unanimous
majority on the EMS advisory council stated they would move
shift change up to 0800 hours , thus voiding the 0815-0830
hours time slot that was discussed in the first advisory
council meeting minutes .
Doug Greenfield , stated that a change to 0800 hours would not
be enough of a change to help the problem , Doug Greenfield
stated that 0700-0730 hours would be more of what he had in
mind to improve the situation with overtime . Doug also felt
that by having shifts switch at this time , our EMS units would
be manned for the rush hour traffic and ready to go .
Many EMS employees feel , on the other hand , that a 0800 hour
shift change would do , verses a 0700-0730 hour shift change ,
pointing out , that the 0800 hours shift change has long been
the established choice of all the Collier County Fire and
rescue departments . And further , noting that on a very large
majority of our EMS calls , Fire Department rescue rolls also .
Concluding that what works for all the Collier County pro-
fessional Fire Departments for shift change , could also work
for EMS. The Fire Departments all face to some overtime
costs if a late call comes in at 0750 hours , and yet they
have unanimously choosen to change at 0800 hours .
With no results or conclusions being made on this issue , Doug
Greenfield is going to request that Data Processing do a check
from June 1982 , to the present , from 6 : 00 a .m . to 9 : 00 a .m . ,
sevens days a week to find out exactly when all the a .m . are
coming in . The data is estimated to take approximately forty-
five days before the results will be in . Discussion will re-
turn at that time
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New business was discussed as follows :
A) Curtains for the Immokalee station are being planned .
Window dimensions are in and Debbie Lichliter volunteered
to get curtain prices and to choose the decor .
B ) Doug Greenfield request that employees decrease air time
on channel four by using your codes and speaking short
and to the point . Use channel one whenever possible for
unit to unit communications .
C ) Doug Greenfield is planning to eventually have all vehicles
manned with Centor radios for ease of use .
D ) CCEMS employees have no disability insurance , never have .
If your hurt on the job , you have Workmans Compensation ,
but if your hurt on your own time , you can only get what
sick time you have accumulated and for most of us , more
than a few weeks off could be serious
Jeff Page has volunteered to look into getting a disability
program for CCEMS as a group . Employees need pursue this
issue . It is not uncommon to be off work for a year or
even permanently disabled due to an injury off the job .
E ) Paramedics need to document on their tripsheets any specific
orders they may be given by doctors on a scene , private homes ,
medical centers , etc . , to protect the paramedic . Get documen-
tation .
F ) CCEMS has recently received a letter from Escambia county
requesting information from CCEMS and other EMS organizations
near by to help them put together a regional or state wide
high risk retirement for EMT' s and Paramedics . Fire and
Police have it already , and Doug Greenfield intends to
assist Escambia county with their efforts and will keep us
abreast of the issue as it progresses .
1140 Hrs . Meeting closed
The CCEMS Advisory Council will meet once a month , employees
welcome .
Submitted
Dave Kitchen , Secretary
Employees Advisory Council
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Collier County Emergency
Medical Services
MEMORANDUM
DATE: JANUARY 26, 1983
ro: ALL EMS PERSONNEL FROM: DOUG GREENFIELD
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REF: EMPLOYEES' ADVISORY COUNCIL
The following employees have been elected to serve on the Employees'
Advisory Council :
Diane Flagg
Joe Magri
Dave Kitchen
Jeff Page
Bill Peplinski
Debbie Lichliter
Denny Hare (alternate)
Terry Ortengren (alternate)
We welcome these individuals and look forward to working with them during
this next year.
Sincerely,
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Doug Greerjfield
Dir.ctpr f E.M.S.
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FORM RP 1009-L ,