BCC Minutes 08/14/1991 BNaples, Florida, August 14, 1991
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County Commissioners in
and for the County of Collier, and also acting as the Board of Zoning
Appeals and as the governing board(s) of such special districts as
have been created according to law and having conducted business
herein, met on this date at 8:00 A.M. in BUD(lET WORKSHOP in Building
"F" of the Government Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the
following members present:
CHAIRMAN: Patricia Anne Goodnight
VICE-CHAIRMAN: Michael J. Volpe
Richard S. Shanahah
Max A. Hasae, Jr.
Burr L. Saunders
ALSO PRESENT: Debb¥ Farrls and Ellis Hoffman, Deput~ Clerks;
Nell Dotrill, County Manager; Tom Olliff, Assistant to the County
Manager; David Pettrow, Development Services Director; William Lorenz,
Environmental Services Administrator; Russell Shreeve, HUI Director;
Mike McNees, Budget Director; Michael Smykowski, Budget Analyst;
Robert Byrne, Budget Analyst; David Russell, Solid Waste Department
Superintendent; Bob Fahey, Solid Waste Department Director; Leo Ochs,
Jr., Administrative Services Administrator; Edward N. Finn, Budget
Analyst; Frank Brutt, Community Development Services Administrator;
John Mada~ewski, Pro~ect Review Services Manager; Mike Newman,
Water/Utilities Director; Fred Bloatschar, Assistant Utilities
½Administrator; Tim Clemons, Wastewater/Utilities Director; Ron Cook,
UtilAties Finance Director; Mary Jo Thurston, Finance/Utilities
Supervisor; Ann Marie Saylot, Administrative Assistant/Utilities; and
James P. Ward, Pelican Bay Services Division Administrator.
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~eferring to pages i and 2 of the Department Budget Detail,
Budget Analyst Smykowskl reported that overall there is a 7.3~
increase in appropriations and personal services are only up 2.7~ due
to a decrease in budgeted overtime expenses. He reflected there is a
decrease in the budgeted part-time personnel at the Carnestown
Transfer Station and one equipment operator position has been
nated at the Naples Transfer Station site. He indicated operating
expenses are up 102.8~, with 2.1 million dollars budgeted for biomass
processing, processing of construction demolition waste, and tire
chipping expenses at both the Naples and Immokalee landfill sites. He
stated that capital outlay is up 82.5~ and is primarily due to cell
closure requirements, with Cell I being proposed for closure at the
Im~okalee Landfill at a cost of $675,000 as well as Cells 3, 4 and 6
at the Naples Landfill at a cost of approximately 3.1 million dollars.
He read aloud page 3 of the Department Budget Detail, item for item.
He stated that 3.2 million dollars in additional revenue is antici-
pated coming from a combination of an increase in the landfill tipping
fees and borrowing money for construction of the capital projects.
Environmental Services Administrator Lorenz referred to the data
beginning on the page identified as "Solid Waste Budget Workshop
Briefing Package 8/14/91" He reported that the last increase in
tipping fees for Collier County was in FY 86/87 for garbage that is
reflected on the table appearing on page 1 of the briefing package.
He explained that page 2 of the briefing package is a summary of the
assumptions used in a ten year financing plan projecting expenditures,
both capital and operating, and taking a look at what revenue needs
will be with regard to various tipping fee optione. He stated that
pages 3 through 5 reflect various tipping fees and how much money must
be borrowed to enable the fund to balance for the ten year planning
period. He reflected that $24 per ton becomes a break point in terms
of this analysis. He etated that $25 per ton puts us in the position
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where going into the next ten years we do have a capital reserve of
approximately 2.5 million dollars. He Indicated that these figures
have not been adjusted to reflect any inflation rate.
Referring to page 6 of the briefing package, Environmental
Services Administrator Lorenz confirmed that staff Is recommending $25
per ton for tipping fees, but an alternative is a variable tipping
fee. He explained that a comparison of the two alternatives reflects
1.2 million dollars in interest for the variable tlpptng fee versus
$251,000 for a $25 per ton fee. He explained that page 7 of the
briefing package reflects an analysis of what the increase in
tipping fees will be on residential and commercial rates. He added
that of the two charges reflected in residential rates, one is the
collection charge paid through the haulers and the other charge is for
disposal of waste into the /andfill. He explained that constant
collection costs have been assumed for the FY 91/92 options at $22,
$23, $24, and $25 per ton in an attempt to pro~ect what a resident
bill will look like in Districts 1 and 2 as tipping fees are
increased. He added that there is a more substantial increase in the
commercial rates. He pointed out the three commercial rates reflected
on page ? of the briefing package, adding that this matter was
discussed with waste management to structure rates based on their
customer base.
Referring to page 7 of the briefing package, Commissioner
Saunders pointed out that, at $18 per ton tipping fee, $30 is the
disposal rate while $27.28 is the disposal rate when the tipping fee
~s $22 per ton.
In answer to Comm~ssioner Saunders' question regarding the $3
difference in disposal rates, Solid Waste Department Director Fahey
explained that the manner in which the residential untt's waste is
calculated has been changed, and proceeded to explain the current
method of calculation.
Oommlssloner Saunders reiterated that the residential waste
accounts for 25~ of the total waste received at the landfill, to which
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Mr. Fahey concurred.
In response to County Manager Dorrill, Mr. Fahey stated that,
with the exception of this year, the preceding seven years averaged
an annual increase of 18.56~ of the total for all waste.
Mr. Lorenz reflected that, at the time of negotiations of a
contract with haulers, the county will be anticipating approximately
$1 per month household charge for the curbside program and, thus, the
assumptions incorporated into the table of rates indicated as "without
MRF" on page 8 of the briefing package. He related the assumption
that the residential customer will see the charge in the disposal por-
tion as opposed to the collection side of the fee with the MRF
(materials recovery facility). He reflected that the county is
currently working at approximately $45 per ton, which is greater than
the $25 per ton recommended for next fiscal year. He stated staff
hopes to develop a feasibility report and then get direction from the
Board of County Commissioners in January of ~992 to proceed with the
MRF (materials recovery facility) concept. He said that in order
to meet the mandatory recycling goals thought to be needed, it is
speculated that the County should go to a materials recovery facility
(MRF).
Mr. Fahey stated that getting the volume and meetlng the goal ls
more likely to happen with a MRF (materials recovery facility).
In answer to Commissioner Volpe, Mr. Fahey reported that Collier
County has a very unbalanced waste stream, with approximately 100,000
of the 400,000 tons of waste coming from construction demolition. He
stated that the larger communities statewide are moving toward the MRF
(materials recovery facility) as the assured way to achieve goals.
Commissioner Volpe questioned whether the MRF (materials recovery
facility) concept anticipates phasing out the curbside recycling
program, to which County Manager Dotrill answered in the affirmative,
adding that preliminary citizens survey results from this year indi-
cate that 94~ of those polled are satisfied with the county's solid
waste division, and particularly the collection aspects. He reflected
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that the problem is that Collier County does not generate enough
recycled material to even begin to reach the state mandated goals.
In response to Commissioner Shanahah pointing out that Collier
County is attempting to change the state's formula of how to count
garbage, recycling, etc., County Manager Dotrill reported that a peti-
tion has been drafted to the Secretary of DER requesting that they
grant a more common sense approach to same. He related that he has
been asked to serve on a Florida Association of Counties Solid Waste
Committee which has persuaded the State to recalculate what the more
reasonable expectations are as a primary goal.
Regarding yard waste pickup, Mr. Lorenz reported that the State
will require separate collection of yard waste in January of 1992,
which will be an impact on the residential unit.
In response to Commissioner Hasse, Mr. Fahey stated that should a
$25 per ton tip fee be approved, the residential rate will go up
apgroximately $1 per year.
Regarding yard waste, Mr. Fahey stated that the law does not
reqltire separate pickup but prohibits combined disposal of that
material in a line cell. He reported that Collier County presently
pays approximately $177,OO0 to create one acre of line cell, and he
predicted that the cost will double for future constructions. He
stated that effective January of 1992 the County will be prohibited
from tommingling yard waste with regular waste pickup. He reported
the methods in which other counties are proposing to address this
situation. He discussed the options contained on page 9 of the
briefing package which will need to be considered in the event Collier
County falls to get an exemption from the State on the basis of their
Petition.
Regarding accelerated line cell construction, Mr. Fahey dlrected
the Board of County Commissioners' attention to page 2 of the briefing
package and gave an explanation of the figures reflected for same as
well as the new requirements currently in place for construction. He
d~rected attention to page 10 of the briefing package.
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Commissioner Saunders stated that it is misleading to say that
the tSpping fee is set at $25 per ton and that it iea constant
tipping fee for the next ten years except for increases due to change
in the value of the dollar. He reflected that this is pegged to what-
ever the costs are, to which Mr. Lorenz concurred.
Commissioner Saunders suggested that the County go to a fee of
$25 per ton for tipping fees and notify the City of Naples by cer-
tified letter that Collier County is contemplating doing so.
Commissioner Shanahan stated he has no problem with the $25 per
ton tipping fee as it is the direction to take.
Finance Director McNees clarified that the Board of County
Commissioners seems to be giving direction to prepare the budget based
on a $25 tipping fee, and it was the consensus to do so.
Budget Analyst Smykowski reported that at the $25 per ton tipping
fee it assumes borrowing approximately 1.5 million dollars as part of
the total financing to construct the capital pro3ects due to closures
and reflected in next year's budget.
Mr. Smykowski related that page 4 of the Department Budget Detail
is the Solid Waste Disposal grant budget which reflects a total
increase in appropriations of 7.4~. He explained there are three
grants within the context of this budget and identified same. He
added that next year's estimates for these grants total $390,000. He
explained that the mandatory trash collection budget is reflected on
pages § and 6 of the Department Budget Detail, and is set up as a
separate fund with an increase in appropriations of 43.6~. He
explained the increase in expenses. He confirmed that in going to a
q~arterly payment system, there will be a $2 fee per quarter incurred
to cover administrative costs. He stated there is one expanded ser-
vice which is for a Mandatory Collection Coordinator and Office
Assistant II to administer the program and monitor the assessment
rolls.
Commissioner Goodnight stated she feels both of the requested
positions are needed.
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Co~l.~oner Vo13~ left the ~E~t~ng at 9:15 A.N.
Directing attention to page 7 of the Department Budget Detail,
Budget Analyst Byrne stated that the major change Is the combining of
the MIS (Management Information Systems) budget with the
Administration Budget. He explained, however, that this budget still
only increased by 8~. He reported that page 8 of the Department
Budget Detail reflects the former MIS (Management Information Systems)
Departmen~ budget. He stated that page 9 reflects the Engineering
Budget, for which the major difference from the previous year is that
a Graphics Technician was budgeted as a part-time level prevtousl~ but
is a full-time level currently and next year as well. He explained
that page 10 of the Department Budget Detail reflects Fund 410, which
is the debt service budget and accounts for all the principal and
interest payments in u~ilities and includes the thirty-one million
dollar bond issue which is soon to be let. He referred to page 11 of
the Department Budget Detail stating that when the expected additional
6,000 customers come on line it will translate into approximately 1.6
million dollars in additional revenue. He stated that there are a
number of requested expandeds listed on page 12, the major ones being
the purchase of a new Jet vac truck, additional tipping fees being
paid to the Solid Waste Department for sludge disposal, and five addi-
tional employees requested for repair and maintenance crews.
Budget Analyst Byrne referred to pages 13 and 14 of the
Department Budget Detail stating this section reflects somewhat of a
lesser amount of activity. He reported that page 15 represents the
Marco water/sewer district with the major change being a rate increase
for bulk sewer treatment as well as a higher level of reserves.
reflected that page 16 reflects sewer area "B", which is money
accruing interest annually. He confirmed that page 17 Is the water
opera~ing budget, with a number of expandeds being identified on page
18 ~n an amount totalling one-half million dollars for chemical and
electrical costs associated with increased flow rates. He stated that
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an additional Secretary II position is requested for the water distri-
bution section. He Identified page 19 as the water capital budget
which reflects a reduced level of activity. He referred to page 20 as
the Goodland water operations, which reflects a higher level of reser-
ves due to additional cash carry forward with operational costs
remaining basically the same as the current year. He identified the
Pelican Bay Improvement District Water and Sewer budget found on page
42 of the Department Budget Detail. He explained that there have been
some changes in the manner in which items are budgeted this year as
opposed to last year. In the capital area, he explained that the
ma~or items are approximately one-half million dollars in improve-
ments, tie-ins to county water/sewer, pump station Improvements and
some effluent storage, as well as pipes, meters, etc. He explained
that the increase in the operating budget is mainly due to the
increased level of bulk water purchases.
In answer to Commissioner Shanahah, Budget Analyst Byrne con-
firmed that the capital outlay on the Pelican Bay Improvement District
is $??4,000, which is up 545~.
Pelican Bay Services Division Administrator Ward reiterated that
the increase in capital outlay is due to a difference in the way
budgeting is done from the prior year to the current. He explained
that for 1992, the $774,000 represents additions to the line distribu-
tion system that are required in order to meet the service demands of
the community, telemetry control for the system, tie-ins to the
potable system of the County water and sewer district, as well as
changes to the pump stations, both irrigation and effluent.
In response to Commissioner Shanaban inquiring whether the anti-
¢tpated rate increases are included in this budget, Utilities Finance
Director Cook explained that this budget was developed prior to the
rates coming back from the rate analyst. He explained that for pro-
~ected revenues, they took last year's revenues, added in growth that
was to take place, and built in a 10~ rate increase into this revenue.
He confirmed that the recommended rates for water will be slightly
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more than 10~ and quite a bit more for sewer.
Recess at 9:36 A.M. - Rsconvsned at 9:45 A.M.
Tape ~2
Referring to page $6 of the Workshop package, Administrative
Services Administrator Ochs introduced the item of fleet maintenance
contracted service versus an in-house fleet maintenance repair ser-
vice. He reminded the Board of County Commissioners that this item
was originally presented in the first Budget Workshop with
Administrative Services and Fleet Management. He reported that fleet
management analysis estimates indicate that over the next three years
using in-house fleet repair service, approximately $490,000 will be
saved versus that same level of service with the contract service. He
explained that the savings is primarily due to a reduction in staff of
two positions and elimination of the profit and markup fees that are
typically paid through a contract service of this nature.
In answer to Commissioner Hasse, Mr. 0chs stated that the County
initially went to a contracted service as it proved to be much better
than what staff had been able to do internally. He stated, however,
that since that time the size of the fleet has grown, the complexity
of the operation continues to grow, and the cost of the contract ser-
vice has grown proportionately at a minimum. He stated that currently
the County has a Fleet Management Director and two other technical
staff which have become expert in this area and, from a management
standpoint as well as financial accountability standpoint, he
reflected that taking this service over internally will not only pro-
vide a better level of service to the customers but will be cost
effective as well.
In answer to Commissioner Shanahan, Mr. Ochs reported that he
does not see a down side to taking this service over internally. He
pointed out that if this service is taken over internally and does not
work out either from a management or cost standpoint, the Board of
County Commissioners has the option to go back out and contract again.
Commissioner Shanahah pointed out that currently the County owns
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the facilities and the equipment, including the computerized work order
and inventory management system, with the contractor providing the
personnel.
Mr. Ochs stated that Commissioner Shanahan's observations are
correct.
Commissioner Shanahan stated that the consensus is to move ahead
with the transition of this service to in-house operations.
v~Ilc~,~ FOR HIP~
Administrative Services Administrator Ochs reflected that in
order to enable the Vehicle for Hire Industry to be fully self-
supporting from a budget standpoint, it will require some substantial
increases in the current certificate, application and permit decal
fees to the industry. He reported that representatives of the
industry indicate they are not willing to absorb the entire increase
required to make them self-supporting, but do recognize the need for
an increase of fees. He explained that the Board of County
Go~u~tsstoners' options are: 1) Substantially deregulate the industry
which will save staff time and allow a reduction in the general fund
expenditures; 2) For the Board of Gounty Commissioners to say,
regardless of sentiments of the industry, we are going to make them
fully self-supporting and assess the required fees; or 3) look at a
phase-In approach over a two year period which will provide an
Increase in revenues for next year but not at a level sufficient to
fully support the budget, and with the understanding that in the sub-
sequent year the certificate and vehicle permit fees will again be
increased to make the industry fully self-supporting.
Mr. Ochs stated that $37,900 represents approximately one full
Time equivalent position, although instead of one Individual it is a
split of time Invested in the operation by the Fleet Management
Director, Fleet Analyst, and the Secretary in Fleet Management. He
confirmed that a large portion of administrative staff time is devoted
to supporting the activities of the Public Vehicle Advisory Committee
which meets to hear the new applicants wanting Into the business. He
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stated he questions seriously whether there is an appropriate return
on the investment given the fact that the primary complaint from the
industry to County staff is that there is not sufficient enforcement
of the Ordinance. He stated that most of the complaints are within
the industry, which in turn complains that the County does not have
enough people devoted to enforcing the provisions of the Ordinance.
He reflected that an inordinate amount of staff time is spent pre-
paring agendas, doing minutes, setting up the meetings with the PVAC
(Public'Vehicle Advisory Committee), going through the application
process, etc. He acknowledged that there is a way to streamline the
process but it entails an administrative application process, taking
the PVAC out of the loop to a certain extent because it is unsure
whether the question of public necessity can be answered.
Commissioner Saunders stated that totally eliminating regulation
is a mistake. He questioned whether having a simplified application;
requiring necessary insurance, bonding, etc. as a condition of getting
approval; elimination of the Board of County Commissioners from the
process and making it a staff determination based on the recommen-
dations of the advisory board for approval is the direction to take,
to which staff concurred.
Mr. Ochs stated staff prefers to see an administrative applica-
tion process using the PVAC (Public Vehicle Advisory Committee) as the
reviewer but cutting down the time frame that the applicants must go
through and the staff effort required to support that.
Finance Director McNees interjected that there is a relatively
minor budget issue and questioned whether staff time for PVAC related
activities should continue to be budgeted at full reimbursement. He
stated there is a larger fairly major policy issue on whether or not
to continue to regulate the industry which cannot be dealt with at
this time but will require an advertised hearing.
It was the consensus to budget at full reimbursement with staff
presenting alternatives to reduce the amount of time involved in the
Fegulation of the industry, but to keep some form of regulation.
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Commissioner Saunders stated he agrees that perhaps regulation
should be funded by the industry being regulated, but added that
raising the certificate fees from $50 to $500 is not necessarily
realistic.
Mr. Ochs suggested that staff recommends advising the PVAC of the
direction which needs to be taken In terms of streamlining the
Ordinance, while determining the level of staff efforts needed to sup-
port the new level of administration, and then staff can present a
revised budget as well as determinations of what type fees are needed
to support that level of service.
Budget Analyst Finn directed attention to page 21 of the
Department Budget Detail, stating that the Development Services
Director's budget is the administrative section of the Development
Services Department and the operating costs are decreased overall by
13.5~. He pointed out this reflects a reduction in the pro rata share
of electricity as well as water and sewer Incurred by new tenants in
the building. He stated that, additionally, there are some reductions
In the cost of leasing the copter and other contractual services. He
confirmed that page 22 represents the customer services section of
this department and reflects a 13.4~ decrease in next year's budget.
He reported that two positions have been frozen for a considerable
amount of savings. He stated that a Customer Service Agent Supervisor
position as well as a vacant Office Assistant position have been eli-
minated.
Community Development Services Administrator Brutt confirmed that
there has been no loss in efficiency or productivity as a result of
staff's action, but added that certain activities staff had intended
to accomplish this year have been delayed.
Budget Analyst Finn stated that pages 23 and 24 reflect the
Planning Services Section which has a 2.2~ reduction in operating
costs. He reported a Planner I position is frozen for a twelve month
period. He remarked that pages 25 and 26 Iljustrate the Project
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Review Section, which has a 4.3~ increase in operating expenses.
Project Review Services Manager MadaJewskl stated that the 4.3~
increase will be reduced further. He confirmed that there are posi-
tions currently transferred out. He explained that they have budgeted
for these positions but intend to continue as many transfers as is
reasonable without further cutting into levels of service. He con-
firmed they propose two full time transfers to the Utilities Division
in the way of a Technical Services Supervisor and clerical position,
and a half time plus Engineering I position. He stated that worked
into the budget is the agreement with Utilities for the reimbursement
of an Engineering Tech II position where the utilities final con-
veyance process was taken over a year ago at this time, which ini-
tially came in as an unfunded position. He added that the budget
currently reflects one frozen position for a Structural Plan Reviewer.
He stated they also currently have a vacant Environmental Specialist
II position which occurred due to attrition, and which will be moni-
tored and voluntarily frozen for additional savings.
In answer to Commissioner Shanahah, Mr. Madajewski confirmed that
the 90/91 forecast is on target for what ts projected. He reiterated
that staff will be coming back with proposals for some increase and
realign fees based on actual staff allocation of time and materials.
He stated that the overall permit figure includes building permits,
right-of-way permits, excavation permits, and blasting permits.
Development Services Director Pettrow presented a handout (copy
not provided for the record) which he identified as a statistical
report he prepare~ monthly and which goes back 31 months. He indi-
cated it reflects all the activity measures, Including every SDP, and
provides a statistical profile of what occurs by section monthly. He
stated that approximately 18-24 months ago they experienced a strong
period that skewed the figures. He stated that later he will provide
graphs done with mean annual lines.
Budget Analyst Finn referred to pages 27 and 28, identifying this
section ae Compliance Services, and confirmed a 1.2~ decrease due to a
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decrease in capital expenditures as well as savings in overtime and
contracted lot clearing. He confirmed increases in this budget, prin-
cipally in the indirect service charge. He identified page 29 as the
Growth Planning/Long Range Planning section which was budgeted in Fund
113 last year, but which is being moved to Fund 11! this year. He
identified page 30 as the Growth Management section which is being
transferred to Fund 11! for the same reasons. He explained that page
31 reflects the Housing and Urban Improvement section, which was used
last year to fund the National Development Council Contract for
$30,000, but which is not being included in the County Manager's FY 92
recommended budget and, thus, a $30,000 savings.
In answer to Commissioner Goodnight, County Manager Dotrill
stated that he does not recall having seen a grant actually secured
with the help of the National Development Council.
HUI Director Shreeve reported the County did receive a $584,000
Economic Development Administration grant for water and sewer at the
Industrial Park at the Immokalee Airport. He stated it is uncertain
at this time whether or not the funds can be used due to environmental
concerns at the airport. He reported additional efforts of the
National Development Council on behalf of the County.
Commissioner Saunders stated there are several firms that will
write grant proposals and assist in getting grants of all types with
their fee being based on a percentage of what they actually secure for
the County. He suggested this might be a better approach.
Commissioner Shanahah concurred with Commissioner Saunders' com-
ments.
County Manager Dotrill stated that Commissioner Saunders is
correct, adding that there previously was a firm called ASI out of
Atlanta, Georgia, which worked on a contingency basis. He stated he
sees no problem in pursuing that method again as long as the contract
~8 worded carefully, that the agency is pursuing grants that the
'County wants and is willing to accept and which do not require some
match whlch the County might otherwise not have funds for.
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Commissioner Saunders reflected that it appears to be the consen-
sus to take County Manager Dorrtll's recommendation in terms of
voiding the National Development Council Contract and reconsider
.options that might Include the National Development Council, but not
until next year.
$$$1~t~/ Clark Hoffman replaced Deputy Clerk Farrts at this timesee
Budget Analyst Finn called attention to Page S2, Community
Development Fund Summary. He reported that the Departments are down
9.2~ overall which represents $§?§,000. He explained that Reserves
are do~n 58~ or about $2.4 million which is primarily due to the
shortfall in revenues this year. He noted that the next item reflects
Transfers which is the cost of the debt service on the building In the
amount of $209,000 and certain expenses that are reimbursed to the
MSTD General Fund. He stated that in total, appropriations are down
28.1~ or $S.1 million.
Mr. Finn advised that the Sub-total Departmental Revenues are
$4,944,800 and down 24~. He noted that revenues projected for next
year are approximately S~ over what is.forecast for this year. He
noted that the total position count is down from ils to X0?. In addi-
tion, he related that there are 4 positions which are frozen for a 12
month period, and therefore, the real budgeted funded positions are
103.
Community Development Services Administrator Brutt explained that
the Development Steering Committee suggested that a review be made
with regard to fees. He cited that Lee County charges a $25 per hour
research fee. He remarked that an additional suggestion made by the
Committee relates to the services provided to the Fire Districts. He
Indicated that staff currently reviews the plans relative to construc-
tion activity measures but the County receives no money for this ser-
vice.
In response to Commissioner Bases, Mr. Brutt replied that the
Immokalee Fire District communicated the desire to have the County
take over the actual Inspection of the fire related items within the
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construction of the building. He noted that staff is negotiating with
the other Districts relative to their desires in this regard.
Development Services Director Pettrow provided hand-outs
Iljustrating the permit revenues versus the actual number of permits.
He related that his Department is driven primarily by user fees. He
advised that there Is an average of 1,146 permits issued monthly. He
remarked that the average monthly revenue Is $349,000 over the past 31
months. He Indicated that the last graph Iljustrates the total reve-
nues in Fund 113 which are down approximately 37~.
Mr. Pettrow detailed a number of programs, projects, work task and
encumbrances of his Department since October 1, ~990. He noted that
the 23 additional task require additional travel, more schooling,
additional forms, etc. He advised that there were 114 positions at
the beginning of this budget year and those positions are being
reduced to 107 but the net affected staff including the transfers out
will be 97 people. He indicated that the staffing in his Department
is at the cutting edge of being able to perform certain things when
they are so directed.
Mr. McNees stated that the level of permit activities is the same
but the revenues are down. He divulged that the fees should be based
on the activities but apparently there is an imbalance and after
review of the revenues there may be a whole new structure which will
alleviate some of these problems.
W~t~P-UP DISCUSSION ITEMS
Budget Analyst Finn called attention to Page 33, referencing the
Bicycle/Pedestrian Planning Program.
MPO Coordinator Perry requested matching funds needed to secure a
grant from the Florida Department of Transportation to develop a
Bicycle/Pedestrian Program. He announced that there is a provision in
the Growth Management Plan which requires the development of a
Comprehensive 5 Year Bicycle/Pedestrian Plan. He advised that in
addition to the $21,000 from the State's Grant Fund, $20,000 is being
reqtlested from the General Fund. He noted that there is $16,000 in
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pedestrian money that needs to be applied for and may reduce the
amount of the local match.
In response to Commissioner Shanahan, Mr. Perry remarked that if
the desire of the Commission is to phase In this position, there Is
the availability to do so. He stated that the $16,000 Pedestrian
Grant is from a different agency and does not require an additional
local match.
Mr. Perry advised that if the position is funded as of January
1st, he believes that the State Grant may be obtained under a joint
participation agreement. He noted that if the $20,000 in matching
funds is not approved, he Is unsure that the $16,000 would be
available.
Commissioner Shanahan suggested that the Commission consider the
phase in program. It was the consensus of the Commission to follow
0ommIssioner Shanahan's suggestion.
Mr. McNees suggested that the Gontract Agencies be discussed at
this time. He recalled that this year's original budget policy
relating to same was that the funding of this type of activity would
be phased out over a two year period. He advised that as a means of
putting those involved on notice, the funds were to be reduced to
$1§O,000 this year but there would be no funding next year. He
advised that at the Workshop, the Commission added $40,000 for two new
agencies. He noted that staff has funded those agencies as reflected
in the "Revised Staff Recommendation" column. H~ announced that there
ts an additional agency present that will be requesting funding.
Commissioner Shanahan recalled that Cocoon and the Naples
:. Leadership School have been added.
Oo~u~issioner Saunders recalled that the Commission agreed to fund
the Contract Agencies in the amount of $185,000 and suggested that the
discussion focus on how those funds will be divided.
A discuss/on ensued with respect to funding the Soil & Water
Oonservation District. Commissioner Goodnight stated that she does
-- · not believe it would be fair at this time not to fund this Agency.
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She explained that over the past few years this Agency has helped in
saving ad valorem taxes by performing soil surveys, water management,
ere. She noted that the Commission could ask the District if they
would sit in on the Advisory Board and advise on beach renourishment
and other issues since they have the federal dollars to do so. She
remarked that this would be a cost saving measure in lleu of hiring
consultants to do some of this work.
Conunissioner Hasse suggested providing funding in the amount of
$16,000.
Commissioner Shanahah noted that the revised staff recommendation
is to fund this Agency in the amount of $17,300.
Commissioner Saunders concurred with the original staff recommen-
dation of $16,000.
Tape ~3
Mr. Dave Enttng, representing the Senior Volunteers Center,
explained that this agency works with individuals throughout the
County to find areas of interest to them. He announced that the
Center works with approximately 150 agencies in addition to Collier
County Government, the Sheriff's Office, the Public Health Unit and
the School System, at no cost. He noted that the Retired Sen/or
Volunteer Program (RSVP), provides service to the County organiza-
tions.
Mr. Enting advised that for the first nine months of the current
fiscal year, the County has realized a $50,000 savings by the services
provided by the volunteers. He reported that a $52,000 Federal Grant
has been received but an additional $15,625 is needed to fund the RSVP
Program for 91/92. He noted that another $65,000 will need to be
raised from donations in order for the Center to function. He
explained that the current funds An hand will allow the Center to keep
its doors open through September. He indicated that there are three
paid staff members and 13 volunteers who keep the office open. He
related that there are 648 registered not-for-profit corporations in
Collier County. He requested that the Commission assist in keeping
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this Agency alive for the coming year, noting that he is hopeful that
he will be able to report that the Center is self sustaining by the
community at large.
Commissioner Saunders indicated that there was an extended filing
deadline and this is the second budget workshop with a new Agency
requesting funds. He revealed that one of the criteria that has been
used in evaluating programs for funding is to ensure that the program
has general community support and one that is viable and will continue
on. He declared that he has concerns with regard to Mr. Enting's
remarks indicating that there are sufficient monies for the Center to
remain open until the end of September. He stated that he understands
the urgency but cited that he is concerned about providing public
funds for an Agency that may close in October or November. He advised
that because it is so late in the process, it would not be appropriate
to open up the process at this time.
Commissioner Hasse stated that he sympathizes with the Senior
Volunteers Center, however, noting that the time has arrived for the
volunteer groups to look further into the citizenry of Collier County
to raise some of the funds. He suggested that consideration be given
to providing $5,000 to the Center.
Commissioner Shanaban announced that he would like to see the
Center receive a share of the requested funds, but noted that he does
not feel that the Commission can go along with the $15,625.
Commissioner Goodnight remarked that the $5,000 is not included in
the "Revised Staff Recommendation" and the funds would have to be
taken from the $40,100 that is to be divided between Project Help,
Shelter for Abused Women, Soil & Water Conservation District,
Tri-County Seniors, St. Matthew's House, Salvation Army, Cocoon and
Naples Leadership School.
Commissioner Shanaban suggested that $5,000 be given to the Senior
Volunteers, taking that amount from Cocoon, who came in late.
Social Services Director Skinner advised that Cocooh's application
was submitted on time, however, they needed to re-submit a corrected
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application and it came in late. She divulged that Naples Leadership
School did submit their application on time to the Courts and they
refused same, and now they are requesting funds from the County.
Commissioner Shanaban indicated that he understands that Cocoon
and Naples Leadership School would not receive funding until they are
operating and meet the County criteria for same.
Commissioner Shanaban questioned whether $17,300 would make any
difference in the program. He remarked that if it will not, those
funds should be reallocated to another Agency.
Attorney David McElrath, representing the Naples Leadership
School, affirmed that the funding as recommended will cover the
necessary overhead and administrative expenses for operating the
program. He stated that the program provides hands on attention to
boys and girls to correct their problems and benefit the community.
He indicated that fund raising activities are being planned and in the
past, they have proven to be very successful. He noted that the
intent is to have a part time contract person devote time to have
interns from various colleges come to Collier County at no cost and
assist in supervising and training the youth in the community that
have problems that are not being addressed by the current Judicial
system.
Commissioner Shanahan suggested the following: Soil & Water
Conservation District $17,300; Forestry $3,000; Project Help $20,000;
Hospice $11,000; CARES $S,000; Shelter for Abused Women $20,000;
Friendship House $15,000; Tri-County Senior Service $17,300; TECH
$14,000; St. Matthew's House $16,000; Salvation Army $16,000; Naples
Leadership School $17,300; Senior Volunteers $5,000; and no funding
for Cocoon until they are in operation.
Mr. McNees announced the total of $177,900, with a remaining
balance of $7,500. Commissioner Saunders suggested that the remaining
$?,500 be divided between St. Matthew's House and the Salvation Army.
Ms. Janet Brannigan, of the Immokalee Friendship House, stated
that her agency submitted its application on time and requested
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$15,000. She explained that she does not feel that the additional
funds should be divided and providing same to St. Matthew's House
since they are doing the same work as the Friendship House.
It was the consensus of the Commission that the funding for the
Contract Agencies remain at $177,900, plus the $5,000 discretionary.
Mr. McNees stated that the next item to be resolved relates to the
Health Unit. He indicated that $130,000 was tentatively approved by
the Commission, pending further review of the back up information pro-
vided.
Commissioner Goodnight advised that she has no problem with the
~130,000, noting that by spending the money now, the County will end
up saving in the future because of the programs that will be enacted.
She remarked that the Productivity Committee concurs that the money
will be well spent for the programs as proposed by Dr. Polkowski.
Commissioner Shanahan cited that there is no question that these
programs are needed and money will be saved in the long but noted that
he does not want to consider $130,000 at this time.
In answer to Commissioner Hasse, Public Health Unit Business
Manager Evans advised that the County's discretionary funding used for
program operations is $778,000 for this current year and it was
$928,000 last year.
Commissioner Hesse stated that he concurs with the $13,000 for the
Norplant Contraceptive Program but does not agree with funding the
additional $130,000.
Commissioner Saunders reported that he supports the Health Unit's
request for the $130,000.
It was the consensus of the Commission to "red flag" this request
al%d continue same until the public hearing on September 4, 1991.
Budget Director McNees stated that Finance Director Yonkosky will
address the next item of discussion on Page 37 relating to the Minutes
Secretary position.
Finance Director Yonkosky advised that an additional Minutes
Secretary had been requested and the direction of the Board was that
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perhaps some of the services that are being provided could be cut
back. He indicated that a survey has been conducted and those
involved desire "full service" of the minutes that are taken and
transcribed. He called attention to Exhibits "A" and "B", detailing
full service relating to a particular meeting and an abbreviated ver-
sion of same. He pointed out that Exhibit "C" is a form, identifyinG
all the agencies for which minutes are provided. He requested that
each Commissioner review and provide feedback as to whether the
"limited" version or "tape" only be used for the other boards that
have been appointed. He noted that the current Government and
Sunshine Manual indicates that "minutes must be taken for all
sunshine meetings".
Mr. McNeea stated that he is the staff person responsible for the
Productivity Committee, noting that he has been taking brief notes and
arid preparinG same on his word processor to be adopted at the next
meeting and there is no cost involved.
Commissioner Shanahan suggested that limited minutes and tape
throughout be utilized.
County Manager Dotrill suggested that this issue be referred to
the County Attorney since in certain land use matters a full set of
minutes may be required. He remarked that aside from the Planning
Commission and land use activities, Mr. Yonkosky's suggestion of the
limited version is very good.
Commissioner Hasse concurred that limited minutes should be pro-
vided wherever possible.
Mr. McNees pointed out that part of the problem is that many of
the Ordinances creating these Boards are written such that the Clerk
ls responsible for taking the minutes. He suggested that the
Co.mission direct the County Attorney to amend the appropriate ordi-
nances and prepare the future ordinances with language stating that
minutes shall be kept. He indicated that he sees no reason why some
of those boards could not appoint their own secretary to take the
minutes.
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Commissioner Goodnight concurred that the limited version of minu-
tes should be provided. She explained that she will meet with County
Attorney Cuyler and advise that the appropriate ordinances are to be
amended and that all future ordinances establishing future boards be
prepared reflecting that the all minutes are limited.
Budget Analyst Byrne referred to Pages 34, 35A and 35B, noting
that the next discussion relates to beach parking and boat launch
fees.
Acting Parks and Recreation Director Smith advised that the
Productivity Committee recommends that the beach parking fees and boat
launch fees be increased and that these be consistent throughout the
County. He indicated that currently $1.00 per day is charged at C/am
Pass, Tigertail and Vanderbilt Beach, however, no fees are charged at
Barefoot Beach, Barefoot Beach Preserve or Gulf Shore Boulevard North
parking.
With regard to boat launch fees, Mr. Smith pointed out that
currently there are four ramps, but fees are only charged at the
Gaxambas ramp on Marco Island.
In response to Commissioner Hasse, Mr. Smith advised that the
Oaxambas facility is operated by a concessionaire who operates a small
bait and tackle shop, sells fuel and collects a $2.00 launch fee for
the County. He noted that the concessionaire receives a percentage of
the revenues. He reported that this year to date, the County has
received $6,500 from launch fees and approximately $18,000 from the
concession and fuel sales.
Mr. Smith explained that the situation at the SR-9§1 boat ramp is
quite unique, in that, there are 16 parking spaces that are full on
weekends, with 40 or 50 boat trailers on the outside. He indicated
that a suggestion was made to utilize a launch fee in lieu of the
parking meter approach. He noted that the maximum amount that could
be generated from that facility for parking fees would be $32 per day
but a launching fee would generate approximately $12,000 per year.
Mr. Smith remarked that Bayview Park has 16 spaces which are full
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on weekends and additional vehicles are parked along Danford. He
recommended the possibil~ty of using a concessionaire at this facility
and launch fees could be collected.
Mr. Smith advised that the Parks & Recreation Advisory Board con-
curs with the utilization of a concessionaire, where possible. He
stated that if concessionaires cannot be used, he will come back to
the Comm~ssion for approval to purchase electronic meters at the faci-
lity.
Mr. Smith stated that the Parks & Recreation Advisory Board has
recommended that they be a core committee of the Beach Task Force. He
indicated that they have expressed the desire to hold eveninG meetings
to address the situation of fees and parking meters. He remarked that
these meetings would also address the G~ty of Naples parking sticker
issue.
Commissioner Hasse announced that he does not want to see the
parking fees increase. Commissioner Goodn~ght concurred and noted
that she would like to see consistency at all the parks.
With regard to the County parking stickers, Mr. Smith cited that
the Productivity Committee recommends that the fee be lowered from $30
per year to $20 per year, in hopes of generating higher sales. He
reported that only 30 st~ckers have been purchased to date.
Mr. McNees advised that the suggestion was made to reduce the
n~ber of County Commission Newsletters from three to two per year for
a cost savings of $9,000. The Commiss~on concurred.
There being no further business for the Good of the County, the
meeting was adjourned by Order of the Chair at 12:30 P.M.
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