BCC Minutes 08/29/1991 W Naples, Florida, August 29, 199!
:i~ LET IT BE REMEMBERKD, that the Board of County Commissioners in
:~:and for the County of Collier, and also acting as the Board of Zoning
~ppeals and as the governing board(s) of such special districts as
~?.~"]~ve been created according to law and having conducted business
herein, met on this date at 1:00 P.M. in JOINT WORKSHOP SESSION in
]]~ Building "F" of the Government Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the
following members present:
CHAIRMAN:
VICE-CHAIRMAN:
(ABSENT)
(ABSENT)
Patricia Anne Goodnight
Michael J. Volpe
Richard S. Shanahah
Max A. Hasse, Jr.
Burr L. Saunders
LEE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS:
Doug St. Cerny
Ray Judah
John Manning
ALSO PRESENT: Wanda Arri~hi, Deputy Clerk; Nell Dorri11, County
Jennifer Pike, Assistant to the County Manager; Tom Olliff,
Assistant to the County Manager; Marjorie Student, Assistant County
· Attorney; Ramits Manalich, Assistant County Attorney; Ken Cuyler,
County Attorney; George Archibal~, Transportation Services
Administrator; Frank Brutt, Community Development Services
~? Administrator; William Lorenz, Environmental Services Administrator;
Jeff Perry, Transportation Planner; Diane Holling, Planner; Stan
j~LAtsin~r, Growth Management Director; Peter Comeau, Storm Water
!~i~t~lAty Manager~ Robert Gray, Lee County Acting County Administrator;
Jim Lavender, Lee County Community Services Division Director;
T~mothy Jones Lee County Assistant County Attorney; Anne Dalton, Lee
y Assistant County Attorney; Bill Spikowski, Lee County
:iAttorney's Office; Scott Gilbertson, Lee County.
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Legal notice having been published in the Naples Daily News on
August 25, 1991, as evidenced by Affidavit of Publication filed with
the Clerk, a Joint public workshop meeting was held to discuss various
Lea and Collier County issues.
Commissioner Goodnight noted that Item #3C will be heard tmme-
~i~taly following Item #3A.
DZ~'O~lOI~ OF DRAFT INTERLOCAL AGRK~ BETWEEN LEE AND COLLIER
~' COI~ITT~!~OAIIDINO TI~ D~LOPM~NT OF MUTUAL CO~qPRHHENSIV~ PLAN
; ~ PHO~RAMS WITHIN BOUNDARY ARKA~ OF LEE AND COLLIER COUNTI~8
Mr. Tim Jones, Assistant County Attorney for Lee County, reported
that the proposed Interlocal Agreement is for consideration of appro-
val in concept by the Joint Board. He added that the agreement is in
regards to mutual Gomprehenstve Plan Concurrency Programs with the
ultimate goal of having a method of Concurrency Management which would
De coordinated within both Lee and Collier Counties. He pointed out
that because coilcurrency in the two Counties is handle differently,
Lee and Collier Counties' staffs have concluded that It will be
necessary to work together further before they can Implement a program
'of ~oint concurrency management as intended. He advised the proposed
agreement gives both staffs the direction to work toward this goal.
Commissioner Volpe questioned if the agreement attempts to
i,.idistinguIsh between DRIs ~nvolvln~ the MPO and those of a local
~mture? Mr. Jones responded that the agreement does not make any
~:~'.: d~stinc~on, ~d added tha~ staff will review all development.
In ~er to 0o~sstoner Volpe's question, Mr. Jones stated that
a me~ln~ful agreement can be achieved with modifications to the
[J;~',~thodolo~es of both Lee and Collier Counties. Mr. Jones concurred
the a~reelaent will be subject to amendments In the future.
In response ~o Co~iss~oner Judah, B~11 Spikowski, Lee County
Attorn~'s Office, co,anted that the agreement is planned to achieve
' the s~e conclusion locally as DRI's do with the state.
Jeff Per~, Growth Planning Department, informed that the Collier
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staff has some concerns regarding the proposed agreement
because it does not address the problem of timing for concurrency on
certain roads which relates back to the differences in Lee and Collier
Counties' policies and procedures. He stated, for example, Bonita
Beach Road is currently at an unacceptable level of service and under
the proposed agreement if it is found by both counties that funding is
next year to Increase the level of service, the only
'choice Collier County has is to impose a building moratorium; however,
~ '- Lee County because of its negotiations with DCA has another eight or
nine years to increase it. He pointed out that the difficulty with
the agreement is that Lee County has ten years of flexibility
regarding concurrency that Collier County does not have.
Mr. Jones informed that Lee County will use all good faith efforts
to resolve the problem of concurrency between Lee and Collier Counties
before Collier County is forced to use a building moratorium.
Com~tiesioner Manning suggested the development of mutual MSTU's
and the sharing of impact fee funds between Lee and Collier Counties
for certain interconnecting roadways. He added that this ks something
that could be worked out over time.
It was the consensus of the Board to direct staff from Lee and
":,Collier Counties to continue to work together to provide an Interlocal
~Agreement between Lee County and Collier County regarding the develop-
ment of mutual Comprehensive Plan Concurrency Programs within boundary
areas of Collier and Lee County, to be brought back for review before
the respective County Commissioners.
Commissioner Volpe questioned whether Collier Count¥'s staff is
becoming acquainted with Lee County'e proportionate share methodology?
Mr. Jones indicated that Lee County is sharing their ideas with
Collier County staff In order to provide alternate financing methods.
Mr. Jones informed that this method was upheld by a Hearing Officer
~!~when Lee County was challenged by Westinghouse regarding a DRI, and is
now recogulzed as an acceptable method for evaluating the propor-
tionate share of mitigating Impacts for large developments. He added
August R9, 1991
there Is no rational reason why it would not apply to smaller
~ST0~M WA%'J:R Mdd'6~EMKIFF ST&T~S REPORT
Sto~ater Utility Manager Comeau stated that the following items
have been accomplished as outllaed under Collier County's Growth
M~agement Plan: completed the lnventory and mapping of all existing
8tor~ater ut~llt~ee; determlned the extstlng level of servlces and
lmprovements needed for major structures and channels segments; estt-
~ted the costs for ldentlfled remedial faclllty needs; detailed the
basin study whlch provides a priority schedule for the next eight to
ten years; ~d the ftnanclal consultant has recommended the develop-
ment of a stor~ater utility 8ervlce charge billing system In order to
~rovtde ~ adenate and stable fundlng source for the County ts
Stor~ater Program. He ~eported that the englneerlng study Identified
253 pro~ect8 to co~ence over the next twenty years with an aggregate
=set of $55 million to $80 mllllon. He noted that the existing storm-
water ~nagement budget is between $1.9 m~llton and $2.1 million, and
the mao~er plan Identifies that funding levels should be at $4.8
mlllton approxlmately. He pointed out that on Au~st 27, 1990 the
Board of Co~t~ Co~tss~onere adopted a Stormwater Master Plan and in
March, 1991, they adopted a Stormwater Utility Ordinance. He indi-
cated that the objective of the flrst phase is to develop a rate or
8erles of rates for a Stormwater Utility Program that properly reflect
the costs assoclated with the admlnlstratton, operation, maintenance
~d capital conet~ctlon programs of Collier County Water Management
Department. He contlnued that the second phase will involve deve-
loplng a Mao~er Account Flle. [Is advised that the Stormwater Utlllty
Rate Study ~8 on schedule and is now scheduled to be completed ~n
Feb~, 1992. He cohented that one of the key components of the
pro~ect t~ the ~bltc Informatlon Program which ls planning to pro-
vlde on a monthly basls issue papers for the Board of County
Co~o8loneFoe dt~ectlon in order to achieve the goal of providing to
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p~blto a easple billing In the Spring of 1992.
Lee County Commissioner Judah acknowledged that this will provide
:.i.a dedicated funding source to better manage water supply and control
stormwater run-off in Collier County. He confirmed that Lee County
recently approved their stormwater utility rate which has been
received with mixed feelings by the citizens of the County; however,
!~' overall it was r~cognized as necessary.
Lee County Commissioner St. Cerny commented that after the public
waa provided with more Information on the subject the opposition dimt-
Mr. Gemeau reiterated that the citizens of the County will be
infor~ed and educated on stormwater management before any further
development takes place. He Informed that a comprehensive survey on
ator~water ~anagement will be taken of 3,000 people in Collier County
in developing the public information program.
After some discussion between Commissioner Volpe, Lee County
Commissioner Judah, and Rollin Notaltni (spelled phonetically), Lee
County Director of Division Water Resources, it was noted that Lee
County's stormwater management program is proceeding with the objec-
tive of a county-wide benefit. Mr. Notaltnl reported that Lee County
is working with the City of Ft. Myers on water management and will be
preparing an inter/coal agreement. He noted that Ft. Myers will be
doing their own rate study.
County Manager Derrill asked if Lee County is participating in the
Florida Association of Counties Group Application, to which Mr.
Notaltni affirmed they are.
Mr. Perry, Growth Planning Transportation Planner and coordinator
for the Metropolitan Planning Organization (MPO), presented an update
on the current status of the Naples Area Transportation Study. He
noted that the Naples urban area model has been expanded to include
the Bonita Springs area in order to provide more accurate results for
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:r&naport&tton planning. He advised that there Is a bikepath program
~'~plarmed which will be a County coordinated effort Involving the Lee
NPO, the Counties' Department of Planning, Lee County DOT&E, Florida
Department of Transportation, and the counter offices In Collier
and City of Naples. He reported that the State of Florida has
provided consulting funds, and Collier County plans to have the basic
Lodeling effort completed by the end of 1991 with the modeling for the
year 2010 across the county line completed in January of 1992.
Scott Gilbertson, Lee County Department of Transportation
Rngineering, informed that Lee County has developed a build-out study;
'.however, it has not been finalized. He remarked that this study will
be used to identify which direction they should be moving in regards
to future land use changes, etc.
Commissioner Volpe suggested that Collier County also develop a
build-out study. Mr. Perry informed that the funding for this study
has been delayed, and explained that the 2010 long-range modeling plan
~ is a Federally mandated document that Collier County~s MPO has to
~ comply with first. ,
Mr. George Crawford, Director of DOT&E, cautioned that although a
build-out study is a good ~utde for the county, it is not advisable to
lock in on this plan. He emphasized to use it as a guide for
~: ' transportation needs in the immediate future. He pointed out that
'.future transportation needs may require alternative methods other than
roadways.
Mr. Perry assured that a build-out study will be a project to be
~ndertaken as soon as possible.
Commissioner Shanahan commented that the Counties need to be
:thtr~ing in the manner of an eventual mass transit system between Lee
and Collier Counties. Mr. Crawford added that Charlotte County should
also be included as part of this system.
Mr. Crawford noted that a contract for the design of Bonita Beach
.Road will be brought before the Lee County Commissioners the week of
'i September 2, 1991.
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~e Dalton, Lee Co~ty Assistant County Attorney, stated tha~ the
$ntent of the proposed contract for the development of Barefoot and
~n$~a Beach ~s to provide flexib~ltty on both parts and provide for
coordination in the areas where it is physically necessary. She
informed t~t the coordination aspect is explained in Section 5, spe-
cif~cal~y, the parking lot, the beach access walkways, the
l~dscaptng, ~d the restroom hookup on the Lee County side into the
Collier Co~ty sewer system. She related that other than the said
specifics, the contract provides enough flexibility for each County to
prepare their o~ development plan, permits, professional services,
~d consk~ction. She noted that Section ~o sets forth that Lee
Gouty w~ll make improvements to include the parking lot, picnic
areas, playgro~de, restrooms, changing areas, beach accesses, walk-
..ways, landscapinu, Irrigation systems, sewer connections, maintenance
'~ ~d supe~ieion, he/ping to pa~ improvement costs, and ancillary sup-
~rt fac~lltiee; Collier County improvements will include a dune
crossover, landscaping, p~cnic shelters on the beach, water management
improvements with respect to the parking lot and a parking walkway.
She advised that Collier County has requested that the utility
'e~ent for hoo~p of the sewer into the Collier County system be
~ ~nterim agreement ~til such time as ~t can be extended to the
Bonita Beach water system. She pointed out that in Section Six there
~e ~ ~tem which requires that a portion of the Bonita Beach right-of-
~y which ~e not being utilized be vacated with the provision that at
~ch t~me as the vacation occurs Collier County will give up
r~ghtm to th~e roadway. She informed that this is a housekeeping
~tter because the roadway is not currently being used and under
~rFent env~ro~ental re~latione it will not be used. She asserted
that the proposed agreement is presented today for approval in concept
and direction only and a formal contract will be brought back before
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Boards in the future for final approval and signature.
Assistant County Attorney Manaltch Informed that Collier County
currently holds an easement granted to them by Lely Development
Corporation froze which the County gains access to the Collier County
parking lot and plans by Coastal Engineering will provide for a new
access point from Lee County which will interconnect to Collier
~"'County. He pointed out that this new access will cause Collier County
it° forfeit its easement. In response to Commissioner Volpe0 Mr. Jim
Lavender, Lee County Community Services, indicated on a display map
the locations of the easement and the proposed new access. Mr.
Lavender explained that the reason for the new access is a result of
DOT'e concern with the access on the curve.
Ms. Dalton clarified that the vacation of the right-of-way
referred to in Section Six is a separate issue from the Lely easement
discussed by Mr. Manalich. Mr. Manalich affirmed that the vacation of
right-of-way mentioned by Ms. Dalton is in the best interest of
ter County. He added that his only request would be to modify the
language in Section Six where it refers to this vacation by including
a reference to Chapter 336 of the Florida Statutes and a statement
indicating that when Collier County receives from Lee County a resolu-
· tion approving the vacation, then Collier County will convey by statu-
:o~ deed all rights and interests for said vacation. Ms. Dalton
agreed to this added language.
Mr. Manaltch suggested that Section Five be modified to read, "...
connect into the Collier County sewer system on an Interim basis; ..."
He noted that there will be the issues of a connection fee and whether
there will be a monthly billing for the shared use.
Ms. Dalton commented that she agreed with the added language of,
=on an interim basis," with the understanding that the connection will
;.~ ..continue until ~uch time it can be connected to Lee County.
County Manager Dorrtll informed that he has requested that staff
.?.i~eview the current Lely easement which is currently being used for
access from Collier County.
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~:i' Commissioner Volpe emphasized that it is essential to have access
!i~ from Collier County as well as Lee County into the park.
Transportation Services Administrator Archibald stated that from a
transportation standpoint it is very important that both Lee and
..Collier Counties maintain their access to Lely Barefoot Beach
ii:~11Bo~levard because of the future four-lanlng of Bonita Beach Road and
the medium opening at this intersection.
Ms. Dalton requested that the issue of the sewer fees be addressed
'~..~.ln order to move forward with that project.
County Manager Dotrill recommended that the fees be reviewed and
.prepared and submitted as part of the final agreement.
Mr. Manalich cited that the Parks and Recreation Department has
raised the issue that a Operations and Maintenance Manual has not yet
been prepared. Mr. Lavender noted that the Agreement provides for Lee
and Collier Counties' Park Directors to work together in maintaining
·nd operating the park.
Mr. Manalich informed that another issued to be addressed is the
~atter of whether a fee will be charged to enter the park from either
County. Mr. Lavender commented that if fees are charged in the future
they will be consistent between the two Counties.
Mr. Manalich requested that the issue of the budget amount for
~ Collier County be addressed more specifically. Chris Dane, Coastal
.~.'.Kngineering, explained that since it is not clear as to what exactly
wll! be necessax~¥ to build, it is difficult to provide an exact budget
~ fibre; however, the best estimate at this time is approximately
i:.., '$85,000.
In response to Commissioner Volpe, Ms. Dalton explained that
Four and Seven specifica~ly addresses coordination of efforts
.~ both Counties regarding operation and maintenance and associated
~attere.
:":' Marge Ward, President of Citizens Association of Bonita Beach,
... questioned if Lee County is providing restroom facilities, would it
not be fair for Collier County to provide for the sewer and their
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i~oate? She also informed that if a traffic signal Is Installed at
Boulevard, Lely Development will be paying for it according to
Co,~isstoner Volpe co~u~ented that the sewer fee issue is being
looked into.
~a~ The consensus of the Board was to accept the Interlocal Agreement
~and direct staff to proceed for final approval by the individual
~Boards of County Commissioners.
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Comissioner Goodnight related that Collier County has been
experiencing problems with State certified contractors, and it has
.been identified as a problem which has crossed the County line.
Compliance Services Manager Boyce provided to the Board members
i,' an issue paper on proposed changes to the operational procedures used
in contractor licensing and contractor licensing investigations. He
requested that this be reviewed with the objective of eliminating the
fraud taking place by State certified contractors. He suggested that
as well as Lee and Collier County Joining together to stop this fraud,
~,, they could unify and address the issue in Tallahassee to change State
-legislation to provide local Contractors Licensing Boards the same
: authority the State holds. He requested that Lee and Collier Counties
Board of County Commissioners instruct their respective staffs to
a Joint operational strategy to take to Tallahassee.
Comiasloner Goodnight conairred and requested that the Lee County
Board of County Commissioners r~view the Issue paper and direct their
staff to work with Collier Coun~y's staff to resolve this Issue.
!.A~I~a~ ~ ~l~ CO~PA~/, INC.
Co~lssIoner Goodnight stated that Chief Bouse of the American
Indian Recycling Company, Inc. has requested that he provide this
~':-Board with recycling Information.
?' Chief Clyde V. Bouse informed that his proposal is to build a
:.recycling system in Immokalee which would benefit Lee County, Hendry
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and Collier County which would take grass, shrubbery, trees,
p&per and recycle it into fire logs, pellets, or barbecue chips.
pointed out that this system would extend the life of the land-
'"f~lls. He provided to the Board his brochures (not provided for the
,. Coa~lasloner Volpe suggested that Lee and Collier Counties Jointly
':!'review efforts to provide affordable housing.
Lee County Commissioner Judah requested that Collier County holds
firm in providing the $20,000 for matching moneys with th. South
;Florida Water Management District for making CREW a separate entity.
iConissioner Goodnight affirmed that the $20,000 is provided for in
Collier County budget.
There being no further business for the Good of the County, the
~meeting was adjourned by Order of the Chair - Time: 3:00 P.M.
BOARD OF COUNTy CO~ISSIONERS
BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS/EX
OFFICIO GOVERNING BOARD(S) OF
SPECIAL DISTRICTS UNDER ITS
CONTROL
P~TRICIA ANNIE GOODNIGHT, ~AIRMAN
presente~;{.'/~-'~' or as corrected
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