CCPC Minutes 03/02/2000 RMarch 2, 2000
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE
COLLIER COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
Naples, Florida, March 2, 2000
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Planning
Commission in and for the County of Collier, having conducted
business herein, met on this date at 8:30 a.m. in REGULAR
SESSION in Building "F" of the Government Complex, East
Naples, Florida, with the following members present:
CHAIRMAN:
Russell A. Budd
Kenneth L. Abernathy
Karen Urbanik
Sam M. Saadeh
Michael Pedone
Gary Wrage
Michael J. Bruet
Joyceanna A. Rautio
ALSO PRESENT: Marjorie M. Student, Assistant County Attorney
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AGENDA
COLLIER COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION WILL MEET AT 8:30 A.M., THURSDAY, MARCH 2, 2000
IN THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING ROOM, ADMINISTRATION BUILDING,
COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER, 3301 TAMIAMI TRAIL EAST, NAPLES, FLORIDA:
NOTE: INDIVIDUAL SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO 5 MINUTES ON
ANY ITEM. INDWIDUALS SELECTED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF AN
ORGANIZATION OR GROUP ARE ENCOURAGED AND MAY BE
ALLOTTED 10 MINUTES TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM IF SO RECOGNIZED
BY THE CHAIRMAN. PERSONS WISHING TO HAVE WRITTEN OR
GRAPHIC MATERIALS INCLUDED IN THE CCPC AGENDA PACKETS
MUST SUBMIT SAID MATERIAL A MINIMUM OF 3 WEEKS PRIOR TO
THE RESPECTIVE PUBLIC HEARING. IN ANY CASE, WRITTEN
MATERIALS INTENDED TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE GCPC SHALL BE
SUBMITTED TO THE APPROPRIATE COUN'I~ STAFF A MINIMUM OF
SEVEN DAYS PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL MATERIAL USED
IN PRESENTATIONS BEFORE THE CCPC WILL BECOME A
PERMANENT PART OF THE RECORD AND WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR
PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD OF COUN'I~ COMMISSIONERS IF
APPLICABLE.
ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL A DECISION OF THE CCPC
WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS PERTAINING
THERETO, AND THEREFORE MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A
VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH
RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH
THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED.
I. ROLL CALL BY CLERK
2. ADDENDA TO THE AGENDA
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
4. PLANNING COMMISSION ABSENCES:
5. BCC REPORT
6. CHAIRMAN'S REPORT
7. ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. V-99-28, Richard and Leslie Lilien requesting a 5.5-foot variance from the required 7.5-foot side
yard setback to 2 feet for property located at 10262 Vanderbilt Drive, further described as Lot 26,
Block 40, Naples Park Unit 6, in Section 28, Township 48 South, Range 2:5 East, Collier County,
Florida. (Coordinator: Fred Reischl)
R-99-12, Lisa H. Bamette of Cheffy, Passidomo, Wilson & Johnson. LLP. representing Benedict
P. Miralia, Trustee, requesting a rezone from "A" Rural Agricultural to "C-4" for property located
on the west side of U.S. 41 North approximately 1500 feet south of the Wiggins Pass Road
intersection, in Section 16, Township 48 South, Range 25 East, Collier County, Florida, consisting
of 3.53:t: acres. (Continued from 2/17) (Coordinator: Susan Murray)
CU-O0-02, Diane Flagg, Chief, Collier County EMS, and Sandra Taylor, Collier County Real
Property, requesting a conditional use for Essential Services in the "E" Estates zoning district per
Section 2.6.9.2 for an EMS and SheriWs Office Substation for property located at the southwest
comer of Golden Gate Boulevard and 13th Street S.W., in Section 8, Township 49 South, Range
27 East, Collier County, Florida, consisting of 2.57:!: acres. (Coordinator: Fred Reisehl)
8. OLD BUSINESS
9. NEW BUSINESS
10. PUBLIC COMMENT ITEM
11. DISCUSSION OF ADDENDA
12. ADJOURN
3/2/00 AGEND/RN/im
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CHAIRMAN BUDD: I'll call this meeting of the Planning
Commission to order, and we will start with our roll call.
Commissioner Priddy is absent.
Commissioner Abernathy?
COMMISSIONER ABERNATHY: Here.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Commissioner Urbanik?
COMMISSIONER URBANIK: Here.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Commissioner Pedone?
COMMISSIONER PEDONE: Here.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Commissioner Budd is here.
Commissioner Wrage?
COMMISSIONER WRAGE: Here.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Commissioner Bruet?
COMMISSIONER BRUET: Present.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Commissioner Saadeh is absent.
Commissioner Rautio?
COMMISSIONER RAUTIO: Present.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Any addenda to the agenda?
There are none.
No minutes to approve.
Any planned absences in our future?
There are none.
I've no Board of County Commissioner -- or, excuse me, no
Chairman's Report.
Board of County Commissioners' Report?
Ron?
MR. NINO: I think it might be interesting to note that the
Board of County Commissioners, when they dealt with the Naples
Golden Gate -- Golden Gate Commerce Park, which used to be
the Health Park over there on the northwest corner quadrant of
951 and the freeway, for all practical purposes they denied it, but
it ended up they continued it, and one would have to assume that
the board is -- took the position that highways are -- highways are
not functioning adequately even though -- even though --
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Just certified.
MR. NINO: -- even though, according to our traffic circulation
element, the correct -- they're -- they're not operating below level
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of services.
(Commissioner Sam M. Saadeh entered the board room.)
MR. NINO: And I hate to use the word, but it might -- it might
appear that the -- that the board is taking a more cautious view
in terms of approving the petitions where the roads aren't
functioning, when the world knows they're not operating but our
plan says they are, but I just want to bring that to your attention.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Okay. Thank you, Ron.
We will move into our advertised public hearings.
COMMISSIONER RAUTIO: Mr. Budd?
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Yes.
COMMISSIONER RAUTIO: For the record, we might want to
acknowledge that --
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Mr. Saadeh is here.
COMMISSIONER RAUTIO: -- Mr. Saadeh is here.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Why?
COMMISSIONER SAADEH: To keep the record straight.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Okay. Thank you. And the record is
correct now.
Open with Petition V-99-28. Do we have any disclosures on
this item?
All those wishing to testify on this item, please stand, raise
your right hand and be sworn in by the court reporter.
COMMISSIONER WRAGE: Is the petitioner here?
CHAIRMAN BUDD: I have no idea.
MR. LILIEN: Yes.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: If you intend to present testimony, you
need to be sworn in. If you'd stand and raise your right hand?
(The witnesses were duly sworn by the court reporter.)
MR. REISCHL: Good morning, commissioners. Fred Reischl,
Planning Services.
This is a request for a variance from seven and a half feet to
two feet for the side yard of a homeowner construction in Naples
Park.
You can see the location. It fronts on Vanderbilt Drive, one
lot down from the intersection with 103rd.
The variances on the north side, the requested variances on
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the north side, you can see the yellow area, would be the
proposed encroachment. The pink is the house that's under
construction. This is the pool that's already there.
And the reason for the variance is because of some large
ficus trees on the neighboring property to the south.
If you take a look at the photos, you can see the petitioner's
house on the -- on the left, the neighbor to the south's fence and
you can see the large -- I thought Banyan, of course, but I think
it's some kind of ficus tree, shading the south side of the
property.
This is the view of the north property line and, once again, you
can see the petitioner's house on the right side of the photo, the
home to the east, but this area here would be the area of the
proposed encroachment, and you can see the lawn area of the
neighbor to the north. And I think it even -- a better shot, this is
taken from 103rd looking south.
This is the petitioner's neighborhood to the north, this is the
petitioner's house, and this is the area where the pool cage
would be.
As you see, what it abuts is the lawn of the backyard of the
neighbor to the north. You also saw a letter of no objection from
that neighbor, and this is, my guess would be the reason,
because it's not abutting directly the house but an open lawn
area.
I did receive one phone call stating an objection because of a
bad precedent, but nothing in particular against the actual
location of the variance.
Because there's no land-related hardship, staff is constrained
from recommending approval, but as I pointed out, there is no
direct encroachment next to another structure.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Okay. Thank you.
Any questions for staff?
Does the petitioner wish to make any comments?
MR. LILIEN: No.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Is there anyone from the public to address
this item?
We will close the public hearing.
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Do we have a motion?
COMMISSIONER PEDONE: I'll make a motion that we forward
Petition V-99-28 to the BZA with a recommendation of approval.
CHAIRMAN BUDD.' Motion by Mr. Pedone.
Do we have a second?
COMMISSIONER SAADEH: I'll second that, Jim.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: A motion and a second.
Any discussions?
COMMISSIONER ABERNATHY: Yes, sir. I guess my feelings
about side-yard variances are already well known.
This petition strikes me as verging on silly if we're going to
have side-yard setbacks at all.
As we speak, the sun is moving from the east to the west, and
at midday it's at the south, which is where this tree is, and
during the summer months at least, it's almost directly overhead
where a tree would cast no shadow other than just beneath
itself.
So, to start allowing variances just on almost whimsical terms
strikes me as the wrong way to go. I know the county
commission loves to do this but they're politicians and if they
want to give out candy, that's their prerogative.
I think we should pay some attention to the code. If we don't
-- if we want to grant every variance, we ought to do away with
the procedure.
This one, if there's ever one that didn't deserve it, strikes me
as having no merit whatsoever and I intend to vote against it.
COMMISSIONERS BRUET.' Mr. Chairman, I also, you know,
agree. I think when an individual buys a 50-foot lot, he knows
going in that there are certain constraints. And seven and a half
foot setbacks are standard for this type of zoning.
His plan calls for a 28-foot pool. 24-foot pools are very
common, and I would think with some proper planning he could
fit a pool in there that would be adequate in size and also escape
the issue of excessive shade.
I'm not going to support the petition.
COMMISSIONER RAUTIO: I have to agree. I'm not one that's
big on variances that are not indicated a hardship. I feel that --
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with Mr. Abernathy that we're stepping way over the line if we
apProve this variance for a side yard, so I cannot support the
motion.
COMMISSIONER URBANIK: I can't support the motion either.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Any other comments?
COMMISSIONER WRAGE: One final one. It -- it -- I don't see
the hardship here. Again, this is a new house. I guess prior
planning, we have poor performance. I won't support the motion
either.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Okay. With that, we'll call the question.
All those in favor of the motion, say aye.
COMMISSIONER PEDONE.' Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAADEH: Aye.
COMMISSIONER WRAGE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Those opposed?
COMMISSIONER ABERNATHY: Aye.
COMMISSIONER URBANIK: Aye.
COMMISSIONER BRUET: Aye.
COMMISSIONER WRAGE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Aye.
COMMISSIONER WRAGE: I changed my vote on that.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: I think you were opposed, Mr. Wrage.
COMMISSIONER WRAGE: I was thinking about something
else.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: So, the motion fails. The petition is not
approved.
COMMISSIONER BRUET: Does she know the numbers? What
is it; two in favor?
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Yes. Two in favor.
MR. LILIEN: Any chance to speak up on this thing or is it too
late?
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Yes, it's too late, sir.
The next item, R-99-12.
Are there any disclosures relative to this item?
All those in the public that wish to address the board, please
stand, raise your right hand, and be sworn in by the court
reporter.
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(The witnesses were duly sworn by the court reporter.)
MS. MURRAY: Good morning. Susan Murray from Planning
Services.
The subject property is three and a half acres in size. It's
located south of the intersection of U.S. 41 and Wiggins Pass
Road. It is located within the currently adopted, but not yet
legally effective, activity center boundaries surrounding that
intersection.
You can see the activity center boundaries on the visualizer
here.
This is pretty straightforward. It's a request to rezone from
Rural Agricultural to C-4.
I did want to point out a couple of issues that you need to be
aware of. First of all, this property is located within an area of
historic and archaeological probability, and as such, the
petitioner is required to submit a historical and aerological
survey and assessment or request a waiver.
It's my understanding that the petitioner has requested a
waiver but the status of that waiver is -- is not yet known;
therefore, I've included an additional stipulation and staff's
recommendations that I'd like to read them into the record later.
Additionally, the site is located within an eagle protection
zone. Unfortunately, when these sites come in without master
plans like a PUD would, it's -- they do not end up going to the --
before the EAC until the site plan phase when we actually have a
site plan so we can see what is proposed for development on the
site.
So, there is a stipulation and staff's recommendations that
say this petition will go before the EAC at the SDP phase of the
project. So, I just wanted to make you aware of that.
Other than that, staff does feel the -- a rezoning to C-4 is
compatible with surrounding uses. It is consistent with the
Growth Management Plan in that it's located within the activity
center, and we are recommending approval with the stipulations
in your packet, and I'd like to just read into the record the final
stipulation.
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Unless a waiver is granted exempting the petitioner from the
requirement for an archaeological and historical assessment and
survey, the petitioner shall comply with the guidelines and
recommendations presented in the archaeological and historical
assessment and survey.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Okay.
MS. MURRAY: I'm finished if you have any questions.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Any questions for staff?
COMMISSIONER RAUTIO.' Just how close is the eagle's nest
to this property?
MS. MURRAY: I checked with Steve Lenberger, (phonetic) our
environmental specialist, and he's not really sure in that the --
it's -- the eagle has been known to travel to several trees within
that area.
It's my understanding that it's located within, I believe, the
secondary zone of the nesting area. I'm not sure if you're real
familiar with that, but the primary zone extends a certain --
extends out from the last known nesting tree and then the
secondary zone extends a further distance out from that and
there's differing regulations with regard to U.S. Fish and Wildlife
Service in Florida -- Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission.
There are different guidelines that they would present depending
on what zone that property was in.
COMMISSIONER RAUTIO: So, you really don't know.
MS. MURRAY: I really don't know until -- correct, until the
time that an assessment is conducted.
COMMISSIONER RAUTIO: Okay. Because I have personal
familiarity with this Eagle Boy Scout Camp, and it's back there,
and Germain, having been a contractor and it can be a rather
fascinating experience.
MS. MURRAY: Oh, absolutely, yeah. And when they do their
ElS, hopefully they'll be able to pinpoint the last known location
of the eagle at that point and then I believe that's where the
regulations would take place, depending on where that eagle is
located.
COMMISSIONER RAUTIO: Okay. And he might have moved to
Collier Reserve by then.
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MS. MURRAY: It could have. Exactly.
CHAIRMAN BUDD.' Any other questions for staff?
Does the petitioner wish to address the board?
Please state your name for the record.
MS. BARNETT: I'm Lisa Barnett from Cheffy, Passidomo,
Wilson and Johnson.
I don't have anything specific with regard to the eagle. It is in
the back third of our property and I do believe we're in the
secondary zone like Miss Murray said. And, again, when we go in
for a site plan, then that would be addressed at that time since
we don't have any specific site plan at this time.
Other than that, unless there are any questions?
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Any questions for the petitioner?
Thank you.
Any members from the public wish to address the board?
MR. THORNTON: I'd like to.
Good morning. My name is Chris Thornton with Treiser, Kobza
and Lieberfarb here in town.
I'm here today on behalf of Germain Properties of Columbus
and you may know the Germain family and Germain Auto
dealership name. They happen to own the property and operates
the automotive facility next door to the Miralia property to the
north. It's on 41 north.
I think -- I'm really here as a friendly objector today. We don't
really have any objections to the development of this property,
commercial or otherwise, as long as it's consistent with the
Growth Management Plan and the Land Development Code;
however, there is a fairness issue that I think should be at least
looked at and I'd like to clarify it with staff and with you.
The Germain property is about 13 acres and it was approved
as a PUD back in 1990. When that was done, in effect, a 75-foot
green space buffer was imposed on that Germain property. I
think the Land Development Code requires 20 in activity centers
and 20 in places where the right-of-way is as wide as it is on 41.
But -- and I've reviewed the PUD file, I reviewed the minutes
of the Planning Commission, the Board of Commission hearing
from 1990. I can't really find any good reason why any buffer in
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excess of 20 feet was imposed.
Truthfully, Germain's position is that there is no reason. We
don't think there should be any buffer imposed on Miralia in
excess of the minimum requirements.
But at the same time, we don't feel that if -- if there's going to
be a buffer in excess of the minimum requirements imposed on
Germain or other properties on 41, then those shall also be
imposed on Miralia.
The C-4 zoning will allow auto dealerships. Germain is not
trying to suppress competition but the closeness of your display
area of an auto dealership to the highway is very important for
marketing and sales purposes. And if this rezone goes through
with no conditions, then they're -- they can put their display
areas, if they decide to do an auto dealership, within 20 feet of
the highway.
Germain's would be 55 feet farther back. It just doesn't seem
fair.
Again, I don't think there's any reason for it, and it's really --
this is an issue that -- I hope to be before you soon. That is an
issue that Germain has with the county and probably will be
coming in here to try to address that at a later date.
But if there is any reason that any buffering in excess of the
minimum should be imposed on this property, I would like to hear
about it and see if staff had -- knows of any good reasons why.
I don't think there are any, Germain doesn't think there are
any, and I think we really should have the minimum, but if there
are reasons why that there should be excess buffering, then that
should be imposed on other people just like they are on Germain.
CHAIRMAN BUDD.' Susan, are there any thoughts on that? My
quick reaction is I wouldn't want to an impose an additional
buffer on this property just because we did the same next door.
If there's an appropriate reason, we should do it. If there's not
an appropriate reason, then Germain needs to come back at
some future date and amend their PUD.
MS. MURRAY: That's correct. Our -- this petition went
through the usual review process with the Public Works
Engineering, Transportation, our own engineering folks for
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stormwater, and nothing came back that indicated that there
was a need for any excess setback or right-of-way or water
management concerns, which would necessitate a -- a larger
setback.
The landscape buffer requirement in this area is 20 feet and
they would be required to abide by that.
CHAIRMAN BUDD.' Okay. So that in barring any specific
action by the board to the contrary, my recommendation would
be that Germain come back, modify their PUD or request a
modification of their PUD to a lesser buffer and maybe things will
go different this year than they did in 1990.
MR. THORNTON: I agree and I didn't want to get here today
and shoot myself in the foot, and I think -- I mean, this is what I'd
hoped to hear and I appreciate your taking the time to listen to
me,
CHAIRMAN BUDD: All right.
Is there anyone else from the public that wishes to address
the board?
There being none, we'll close the public hearing.
Do we have a motion?
COMMISSIONER SAADEH.' Mr. Chairman, I make a motion to
approve Petition R-99-12 based on staff's recommendation.
COMMISSIONER RAUTIO: Second.
CHAIRMAN BUDD.' A motion by Commissioner Saadeh and
second by Commissioner Rautio. Any discussion?
There being none, all those in favor, signify by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER ABERNATHY: Aye.
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COMMISSIONER RAUTIO:
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Aye.
Those opposed?
Motion carries.
URBANIK: Aye.
PEDONE: Aye.
WRAGE: Aye.
BRUET: Aye.
SAADEH: Aye.
Aye.
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Agenda Item CU-2000-02.
Do we have any disclosures on this item?
There are none.
All those that wish to address the board, please stand, raise
your hand and be sworn in by the court reporter.
(The witnesses were duly sworn by the court reporter.)
MR. REISCHL: Fred Reischl, Planning Services.
This is a conditional use for an EMS and Sheriff Substation in
Golden Gate Estates.
You can see on the visualizer Golden Gate Boulevard and the
intersection with 13th Street. This is the location of the library
and fire station, which have provisional uses, the former name
for a conditional use. The gray is the site.
As you know, in the Golden Gate area master plan, conditional
uses are limited to certain areas. Except for safety services
conditional uses, safety services conditional uses can go
anywhere in Golden Gate Estates, and staff feels it's an
appropriate location next to other county services.
We've received no letters or phone calls of objection. Staff
recommends approval.~
The only note I wanted to note for the record is that if this is
approved, that the properties to the west and to the south
become eligible for transitional conditional uses.
Staff doesn't feel that's a reason for any concern but just for
the record so you're aware of that.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Any questions for staff?
COMMISSIONER ABERNATHY: Yes. I was curious as to why
the access is limited to 13th Street and not Golden Gate
Boulevard. Do you know the reason for that?
MR. REISCHL: 13th Street is going to be signalized upon the
four laning and our transportation director felt that a decel lane
with an access onto 13th would be the most appropriate method
of access.
COMMISSIONER ABERNATHY:
two lane and is about to be four?
MR. REISCHL: Correct.
COMMISSIONER ABERNATHY:
Golden Gate Boulevard now is
Is that right?
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MR. REISCHL: And with four laning, there will be a decel lane
and a traffic lane.
COMMISSIONER ABERNATHY: And yet once on the site, it
looks like people will have to drive past the EMS to get to the
Sheriff, which is in the back? Is that the way that's going to
work?
MR. REISCHL: It's one facility. The reason for the two -- the
double driveway -- is that your question -- is the access for the --
easier access for ambulances.
COMMISSIONER ABERNATHY: That's the front of the site.
There's a loop through -- through the building, I suppose, but I'm
talking about if you come in on the side closest to Golden Gate
Boulevard, you have to drive through the parking area for EMS to
get back to the Sheriff, which is in the back of the lot. Is that
right?
MR. REISCHL: On the west side of the lot, correct.
COMMISSIONER ABERNATHY: All right. West side. It's back
as far as this -- where the access, where it's facing. MR. REISCHL: Correct.
COMMISSIONER ABERNATHY: But there's no other egress,
ingress other than that one.
MS. FLAGG: Let me clarify for you. Chief Diane Flagg with
Emergency Services.
The reason that there's two driveways is that the apparatus
come in one driveway, the driveway farthest from Golden Gate
Boulevard and go into the apparatus bay. The first driveway is
for the public, the Sheriff's office, and that parking lot is for the
public and for the Sheriff's Office.
That second drive, the drive farthest south of Golden Gate
Boulevard, will be restricted to EMS apparatus as a drive
through.
COMMISSIONER ABERNATHY: But you've got ten parking
spaces there.
MS. FLAGG: That's for staff. That will be for the paramedic
and paramedic fire fighters to park back there, their private cars.
COMMISSIONER ABERNATHY: And that will all be made clear
to the public out on the street?
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MS. FLAGG: Yes, sir. The -- the first drive will be the
entrance for the public and for the Sheriff's Office.
COMMISSIONER ABERNATHY: And the other will say staff
only or something like that?
MS. FLAGG: Correct. Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER URBANIK: I have a question.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Yes.
COMMISSIONER URBANIK: I have a question of Diane.
You may remember on Marco, there was some confusion or
people were upset about the sirens in the residential area.
Is there anything we can add to our recommendation that
would help so that -- right now the land surrounding your facility
is unoccupied but for future just so we can avoid some of that, is
there anything you can recommend -- MS. FLAGG: Yes.
COMMISSIONER URBANIK: -- that you remember from that?
MS. FLAGG: We actually have recommended and are going to
put in what's called a preemption device at the intersection of
13th and Golden Gate Boulevard. What it will be is it will
preempt the light so that the paramedic or the paramedic fire
fighters can hit the button and the light will change so that they
can access Golden Gate Boulevard without having to blast their
sirens initially.
It will be available to not only the Sheriff's Office but as you --
you can't really see on this drawing, but a little bit further south
down 13th is also Golden Gate Fire District and they also will
have access to that preemption.
COMMISSIONER URBANIK: Okay. Thank you.
MS. FLAGG: You're welcome.
COMMISSIONER ABERNATHY: Are you all sharing space with
the fire department now or are you located somewhere else?
MS. FLAGG: The fire department is actually a little bit further
south on 13th Street on the --
COMMISSIONER ABERNATHY: I mean, is EMS in there with --
in part of that space?
MS. FLAGG: No. We initially approached the fire district and
they indicated that they were going to* expand and their property
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would not allow an additional expansion. So, we went ahead and
worked with the Sheriff to build this facility at that access point.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Anything else you want to add, Diane,
because we move right on into the petitioner's presentation. Any
other comments?
Any other questions for staff or the petitioner?
Being none, is there anyone from the public to address this
item?
We'll close the public hearing.
Do we have a motion?
COMMISSIONER SAADEH:
COMMISSIONER RAUTIO:
COMMISSIONER SAADEH:
COMMISSIONER RAUTIO:
CU-2000-02 to the Board of Zoning Appeals and include the
preemption suggestion if that's within our jurisdiction to do that.
I recommend--
I recommend--
Go ahead.
I recommend we forward Petition
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COMMISSIONER SAADEH: I'll second that, Mr. Chairman.
CHAIRMAN BUDD.' We have a motion and a second.
Any discussion?
All those in favor, say aye.
COMMISSIONER ABERNATHY: Aye.
URBANIK: Aye.
PEDONE: Aye.
WRAGE: Aye.
BRUET.' Aye.
SAADEH.' Aye.
COMMISSIONER RAUTIO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN BUDD: Those opposed?
Motion carries.
Moving on our agenda, any old business?
Any new business?
Any public comment?
We are adjourned.
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There being no further business for the good of the County, the
meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 8:58 a.m.
COLLIER COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
RUSSELL BUDD, CHAIRMAN
TRANSCRIPT PREPARED ON BEHALF OF GREGORY COURT
REPORTING SERVICE, INC. BY ROSE M. WITT, RPR
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