Minutes 10/19/2011 October 19, 2011
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF COLLIER COUNTY
HISTORICAL/ARCHAEOLOGICAL PRESERVATION BOARD
Naples, Florida, October 19, 2011 13,03IIW31
BY:
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Historical/Archaeological
Preservation Board in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business
herein, met on this date at 9:15 AM in REGULAR SESSION at the Collier
County Growth Management Division —Planning and Regulation, Conference
Room 610, 2800 N. Horseshoe Drive, Naples, Florida with the following
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members present: Hiller
Henning
Coyle
Coletta
CHAIRMAN: Craig Woodward
Matthew Betz
William Dempsey (excused)
Patricia Huff
Sharon Kenny
Elizabeth Perdichizzi
Rich Taylor
ALSO PRESENT: Ray Bellows, Planning Manager—Zoning Services
Fred Reischl, Sr. Planner, Staff Liaison
Jim Seabasty, Code Enforcement
Azure Botts, Code Enforcement
Marya Repko, re: Bula Mission
Misc.Cones: Attorney Michael Volpe, re: Hart Cottage
Date: ',311311-4 Brian Shiffer, AIA, re: Hart Cottage
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I. Roll Call/Attendance
Chairman Craig Woodward called the meeting to order at 9:21 A. M.
Attendance was taken and a quorum established.
Chairman Woodward welcomed new Board Member, Matthew Betz, to his first
meeting of the Historical/Archaeological Preservation Board.
II. Addenda to the Agenda - NONE
III. Approval of Agenda
Sharon Kenny moved to approve the Agenda. Second by Patricia Huff
Carried unanimously, 5-0.
IV. Approval of Minutes—August 17,2011
Correction: Page 3 Item B. line 2 Sentence beginning with "He", attributed to Ray
Bellows was spoken by Craig Woodward.
Sharon Kenny moved to approve the minutes of August 17, 2011, as amended.
Second by Elizabeth Perdichizzi. Carried unanimously, 5-0.
Note:Fred Reischl stated Joe Ervin has since replaced BryanMilk.
V. Old Business.
A. Bula Mission Update
Ray Bellows spoke about the hearing before Judge Garrison. He introduced
Jim Seabasty from Code Enforcement, who provided an update on the
hearing and the situation with the Bula Mission building and Foundation.
Jim Seabasty spoke about:
• The deteriorated and dangerous condition of the building
• The Judge had given a 30 day extension for the structure to be taken
down.
• The County's case had held off for over a year while efforts to raise
funds to restore it were in progress
• The County was not in favor of liening the property
• A lot mowing citation was also involved
Marya Repko, Director of the Frances Hodge Community Foundation, owners
of the Bula Mission building, stated:
• Volunteers were available to bulldoze the structure at no charge.
• The Ochopee Fire Dept. was willing to do a controlled burn as a small
house was nearby. (First the building must be moved)
• A demolition permit was needed.
• Unmarked graves were also there.
• Florida Public Archaeology was willing to scan the grounds for the
graves.
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• The Foundation's plan was to create a memorial garden with a fence
around the gravesite area and a small pavilion within the footprint of
the original Church.
• A possible handing over of responsibility through a 99 year lease-
option with Copeland Civic Assoc.
• The Foundation would like the site designated as historic.
Ray Bellows provided information on submitting a Certificate of Appropriateness
to convert the present designation from the building to the site itself, along with
all particulars, for HAPB's recommendations, noting the Judge's direction.
Discussion followed which resulted in the decision to recommend immediate
approval of the demolition of the Bula Mission structure, given the Judge's
direction; and, require the Foundation to submit a Certificate of Appropriateness,
with all planned conditions, to the HAPB as soon as possible.
Patricia Huff noted some interest remained for salvaging some pecky cypress.
Rich Taylor arrived at 9:35
Elizabeth Perdichizzi moved to approve the demolition of the building, subject to
the Foundation's submission to HAPB of a Certificate of Appropriateness, with
all planned conditions included, as soon as possible. Second by Sharon Kenny.
Carried unanimously, 6-0.
B. Chokoloski Island Update
Ray Bellows noted the property owner had re-opened access to the road to
Smallwood store, though it may be in poor condition. Litigation was ongoing.
Jim Seabasty offered further information:
•Access to the museum was possible; the road may not be in good condition.
He planned to check it after the meeting.
•The fence was to be replaced; but, no permit was issued due to the ongoing
litigation.
•There was also an outstanding weed citation.
•A"no trespassing private property" sign had been erected. A County sign,
directing the public to the opened store, was being proposed.
•A Court hearing was scheduled for Monday.
•Many other issues were involved.
Patricia Huff recalled, from a court hearing, the developer was to put the access
back to a 2-lane paved road. Tourists were still coming, walking over the rutted
road, in spite of the no trespassing sign.
C. Hart Cottage—Certificate of Appropriateness
Attorney Michael Volpe, represented Mr. and Mrs. Fascher, owners of
Hart Cottage which was designated historic in 2007. He presented pictures and
background information regarding their Certificate of Appropriateness request.
• The owner's intent was to restore the property
• Due to economic and poor weather conditions, funding was an issue.
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• Code Enforcement had declared the structure unsafe.
• The Judge withheld ruling until the Certificate was obtained.
Three proposed options for HAPB's recommendation were:
1. Spending no funds and demolishing the structure
2. Remove the weakened cantilevers; enclose structure openings; place a
security door on the lower level to stabilize for future renovation.
3. Remove weakened cantilevers; enclose the structures openings with
windows and create a small habitable cottage.
Brad Schiffer, AIA,produced drawings and plans, explaining outcomes for
each of the proposals, citing cost estimates involved which the owners were
prepared to pay. He reported the structure had been posted and fencing safety
measures had been put in place.
Azure Botts, Code Enforcement, provided additional pictures, stating their
position was - correct the unsafe condition or destroy the building. The Code
case would not be closed until the certificate of completion was issued. The
Special Magistrate will rule in November on compliance measures.
Active discussion followed on the integrity of the structure, the ability to restore
it, what exactly would be involved and the original intent of the owners when
historical designation was sought. Administrative variances for historic
structures, building code treatment of historic buildings and procedures to
initiate moving forward towards preservation were also discussed.
The Board's consensus was to save as much of the structure as possible to its
original appearance, encouraging further renovations. To that end,
Elizabeth Perdichizzi moved to recommend approval of option #3 and of the
Certificate of Appropriateness with the condition of adding sliding glass
doors, keeping the front porch, leaving part of the cantilevers as an element of
the original; and, retaining the bay side of the structure.
Additionally, the Board recommended encouraging leniency by the Special
Magistrate in the Code Enforcement case, as long as the owners of Hart
Cottage were continuing with its historic qualities. Second by Sharon Kenny.
Carried unanimously, 6-0.
VI. New Business
A. Historic Mobile Workshop for the 2012 APA-FL Conference
Fred Reischl announced the Promised Lands section of the Florida Chapter of
the American Planners Association, which included Charlotte, Lee, Collier and
Hendry Counties, would be meeting at the Naples Grande in September of 2012.
He is on the Conference Committee. Planners from all over the State, as well as
representatives from Transportation, Environmental, Historic, Pathways and
Development industries were expected to attend. Attendance expected was about
650. Mobil Workshops and Tours of various sites, some of historic nature were
mentioned. Segway Tours in Naples were planned. Exhibitors from many
jurisdictions will set up booths. He asked for input and suggestions from the
Board Members with finalization due by March.
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Patricia Huff asked that Everglades City be included for a workshop, walking
tour or talk. She also noted the River of Grass walkway and a Swamp Walk.
Sharon Kenny spoke about including Naples walkway, a Pub Walk and a
Restaurant Tour.
VII. Public Comments -None
VIII. Board Member Announcements
Elizabeth Perdichizzi told of her acting experiences in a new organization on
Marco Island, Island Players, whose recent performances of 8 plays drew 500
people. It was reported that the acoustics at the Museum Lecture hall required no
microphones. The group plays at various venues. She also performs with the
Historic Players, who re-enact the Pioneers in an ongoing agenda. She mentioned
performances were planned for November and February.
Matthew Betz had a scheduled talk about Early Pioneers at 7:30 pm at Rookery
Bay the evening of the Board meeting. Several Members planned to attend.
Patricia Huff noted the booklet on walking tours contained several properties
being lost to demolition. She mentioned losing the Bula Mission, the demolished
Glen Tucker former home-the site where Everglades Lodge sat and other historic
figures lived. The Deaconess House was up for sale. She will approach the Mayor
to encourage historic designations to stop further demolitions.
Chairman Craig Woodward suggested moving ahead on the Ordinance with
Marco Island along with the Interlocal Agreement program would help with the
Everglades City situation as well as the other municipalities.
He was asked to speak to the State Surveyors Convention on October 25. He will
speak on Surveying Issues in 10,000 Islands.
He recently wrote a column in the Coastal Breeze on the Weeks family and
received a huge response from many Weeks Family members.
Sharon Kenny spoke about the old Fantozzi building in Old Naples, empty for
many years, now being stabilized, with new roofing and changed windows;
reviving hope that the building will be saved though the Plaza behind may be torn
down.
City Fest will take place on the coming weekend and Stone Crab Festival the last
weekend of October all around Tin City.
Patricia Huff added the Bank of the Everglades building, leased by the owners of
the Rod and Gun Club, will open as a 7 guest room bed and breakfast, with a spa,
gift shop, antiques and breakfast area in the old vault. Open House will be on
October 28 and official opening on November 1. It will be called Historic Bed and
Breakfast.
She asked to put Brochure/Corkscrew Settlement on the next agenda.
The next scheduled meeting will be November 16,2011, at 9:15 A.M.
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IX. Adjournment
There being no further business for the good of the County,the meeting was
adjourned by order of the Chair at 10:45 A.M.
Historical/Archaeologicalservation Board
Chairman Craig Woodward
These minutes approved by the Board/Committee on I\- 16- I ) as presented or
as amended X
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