BCC Minutes 01/13/1992 W Nap/es, Florida, Jmnuary 13, 1992
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County Com~issioners in
and for the County of Collier, and also acting as the Board of Zoning
Appeals and as the governing board(s) of such special districts as
have been created according to law and having conducted business
herein, met on this date at 2:00 P.M. with the City of Naples in JOINT
WORKSHOP SESSION in Building "F" of the Government Complex, East
Naples, Florida, with the following members present:
· CHAIRMAN:
~ VICE-CHAIRMAN:
COLLIER COUNTY COMMISSIONERS:
Michael J. Volpe
Richard S. Shanahan
Patricia A. Goodnight
Max A. Hasse, Jr.
Burr L. Saunders (Absent)
CITY OF NAPLES:
MAYOR: Klm Anderson
COUNCILMEN:
R. Joseph Herms
John Passidomo
Fred Sullivan
Paul Muenzer
Alan Korest
Bill Barnett
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Deputy Clerk; Neil Dorrlll, County Manager; Ken Cuyler, County
Attorney; Richard Woodruff, City Manager; Maria Chiaro, City Attorney;
and Bill Harrison, City Finance Director.
January 13, 1992
Legal notice having been published in the Naples Daily News on
January 12, 1992, as evidenced by Affidavit of Publication filed with
the Clerk, a Joint workshop of the City and County was held to discuss
beach parking.
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~ DISCUSSION REGARDING BEACH PARKING
County Manager Dorrlll commented the Board of County Commissioners
has received from the County Managerts Office, an analysis of the
associated correspondence as it concerns the costs and the process
utilized at the Staff level to resolve the dispute concerning beach
parking. He said both he and Dr. Woodruff have worked through their
respective chief fiscal officers as a way of identifying specific
costs and revenues charged or accrued against this program.
Dr. Richard Woodruff, City Manager, introduced the new City
Attorney, Maria Chiaro, and Bill Harrison, City Finance Director.
Dr. Woodruff recalled three years ago, the City and County entered
into the first agreement on beach parking, which has benefited both
City and County residents. He said he and County Manager Dorrlll
ahare several concerns from an administrative standpoint about the
ex/sting agreement. He said the f~rst problem is that it is a very
open-ended agreement as to the financial responsibilities of the
which are assigned by the City, stating there is no incentive on the
City's part to do a good Job collecting them. He explained al/ money
comes from parking meters, fines or from the County. Therefore, he
said, if the City does a great Job collecting fines, the County bene-
fits while City Staff puts forth the effort. He indicated regardless
of the dollar figure to be worked out, important changes need to be
made to this program. He said the County should be set up on a flat
fee for a certain number of years, with the City being totally respon-
' Bible for collection of the fees. He said an a]ternatlve would be to
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County. He mentioned another problem concerns the parking tickets
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authorize the County to be responsible for al/ those fees. He men-
tioned keeping all policy matters restricted to the City Council will
enable the City to do a better Job of coordinating the program. He
referred to a packet of information provided to the group, explaining
the three revenue sources consisting of parking meters, fines and the
County contribution for 1989/90 through 1991/92. He indicated
although the budgeted amount for the County contribution increased by
$113,000 for 1990/91, it has declined in 1991/92. He next referred to
the expenses, pointing out that solid waste fees have increased
ftcantly. He remarked total expenditures for 1989/90 were $630,000
while revenues totaled $565,000 and the balance came from the City
reserves. He said the same situation occurred during the next year,
however, not all the money has been collected because part of it is tn
question by the County. He indicated the proposed budget for 1991/92
shows $704,000 in projected expenses compared to $?11,000 in revenues.
Commissioner Volpe commented the report is showing a deficit in
both 1989/90 and 1990/91.
Dr. Woodruff stated there were indirect costs for support
services, such as a portion of City staff time, that were included and
are questionable. He directed attention, however, to the next page of
the report, which shows the proposals of both City and County staffs
who have come close to working out a compromise. He said the main
difference ts the City's intention to include an amount for the union
contract, tipping fees and salary for a billing clerk to collect the
fines. He concluded from a management staff standpoint, they hope to
items noted above, and come up with a reasonable amount of money for
the program. He said that amoun~ ts definitely less than what the
City ha. asked for tn the past.
~n response to Commissioner Volpe, Dr. Noodruff recommended tA~t
figure be agreed upon as the base amount and for the next three years,
apply the Consumer Price Index to that amount.
Dr. Woodruff referred to the last page of the report which indica-
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"tea an overview of the manpower provided by the City for the beach
:!~}{:'-.'- maintenance program.
Commissioner Hasse commented that the 1991 ~sue needs to be
lettled. He recommended the Board use the County Staff proposal
f~re of $124,064, subtract ~he $96,200 already pa~d to the
to make a final payment for the ~99~ pro,ram of
be to add the $15,000 tn tipping fees to the $124,064 proposed by the
County.
County Manager Dorr~ll communicated h~s confusion w~th that
re.est, because the County was charging $~8 per ton since the Incep-
tion of this agreement and continued charging that amount until the
1991 when the fee was adjusted ~o $~4 and subsequently to $25 per ton.
In answer to Councilman Herms, County Manager Dorrtll stated the
County has not charged $5 per ton in garbage tipping fees since some-
time In the 1970's. He said it seems the City underbudgeted within
that one expense item, because the County was billing at a higher rate
than the City was charging itself tn that area.
Commissioner Volpe commented this discussion assumes that it will
be in the mutual best Interest of the City and County to continue tn
this Joint participation beach parking sticker program.
Dr. Woodruff agreed that It Is In the best Interest of the citi-
zens to continue the program. He indicated his hope that regardless
of the dollar amount, the two elected bodies will reach a compromise.
Commissioner Volpe Inquired if the program envisions that any part
of the cost of the program will be borne by the residents of the City
I':i':~" of Naples?
assessed
value
and
subsequent
i~.,. ad valorem taxes generated from the City have been paying a portion of
i'~:i., ' the fund the County pays back to the City.
In answer to Commissioner Volpe, County Manager Dorrtll stated he
will not suggest changing from using the County-wide General Fund
monies for the program at this time. He said since City property
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values are contributing approximately 26~ of County-w/de General Fund
taxes, that ts the most fair and equitable fund to use.
Finance Director Yonkosky commented the largest percentage of
solid waste taken to the landfill came from the City of Naples Pier
and Lowdermilk Park and is generated by concessionaires. He said the
fees from the concessions have not gone Into this fund. He agreed
with the posttto~s of the City a~d County Managers regarding the flat
fee approach.
Sue Smlth relayed her concerns with the continued use of residen-
rial areas for beach access and the related parktng and security
problems in her neighborhood.
John Keschl urged the Board to follow the advice and recommen-
darlene of both Finance Director Yonkosky and County Manager Dorrtll.
Councilman Muenzer pointed out a few factors of concern to him.
dents with beach parking permits will be using the parking meters,
County will see an Increase tn revenue, because when the metered spa-
cee are filled, people will pay fees at the County park. He added
another area that has not been addressed is the depreciation factor to
the City's capital investment. He indicated deterioration of the
asphalt, wooden walkovers and landscaping should be recognized and
factored into the agreement based on the percentage of users. He
concluded that the agreement as proposed does not satisfy him as
looking after the City's interest.
In response to Commissioner Volpe, Councilman Muenzer stated he
factored in.
Dr. Woodruff said that factor may be a very valid point tn
establishing a flat fee structure. He reminded the group, however,
that the agreement is for three years and can be changed as conditions
warrant after a valid analysis is conducted to establish such deli-
~:" ctenctes.
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Councilman Korest proposed to enter Into an agreeme;~t by which the
~',?~City charges the County on a per sticker bas~s with a billing cycle of
Councilman Muenzer concurred, adding his suggestion that County
residents be charged one-half the fee, with the County bt/led quar-
terly for the remaining portion.
· After separate and lengthy discussions by the Board of County
Commissioners and the City Council, as well as together as a group,
the following consensus was agreed upon by both bodies:
That a three-year Joint agreement be entered Into by the City of
Naples and Collier County to participate tn a beach parking permit
progran, whereby the County will pay a flat fee of $155,000 per year
funded from the County-wide General Fund; the fee may be adjusted
based on an increase or decrease tn the percentage of perm~ts being
given to County residents; the fee shall be adjusted during the second
and third year of the agreement based on the federal Consumer Price
Index; and the payments will be due November 1st and May 1st of each
year, with the Consumer Price Zndex adjustment Included In the May lit
i~:![~::~. It was alao the consensus of both groups that the County's total
:~f?~"obllgatton for the beach parking program for 1990/91 will be $131,000.
There being no further business for the Good of the County, the
~eettng wac adjourned by Order of the Chair - Time: 4:22 P.M.
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