DSAC Minutes 02/01/2012 February 1,2012
MINUTES OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MEETING
February 1, 2012
LET IT BE REMEMBERED that the Collier County Development Services Advisory
Committee, having conducted business herein, met on this date at 3:00 PM in
REGULAR SESSION in Conference Room #610, Collier County Growth Management
Division/Planning & Regulation Office, 2800 North Horseshoe Drive, Naples, Florida,
with the following Members present:
Chairman: William Varian
Ray Allain
James Boughton
Clay Brooker
Laura Spurgeon De John
Dalas Disney
Marco Espinar
David Hurst
Robert Mulhere
Mario Valle
Ronald Waldrop
(Vacancy)
Excused: David Dunnavant, Vice Chairman
Blair Foley
George Hermanson
ALSO PRESENT: Nick Casalanguida, Deputy Administrator, Growth Management Div.
Jamie French, Director—Operations & Regulatory Management
Judy Puig, Operations Analyst— Staff Liaison
Jay Ahlnad, P.E., Director—Transportation Engineering
Robert Salvaggio, Assistant Fire Code Official —Fire Code Office
Nathan Beals, Project Manager—Public Utilities
Caroline Cilek, M.C.R.P., Senior Planner—LDC Coordinator
Jack McKenna, Sr. Engineer—Engineering & Environmental Services
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I. CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Varian called the meeting to order at 3:06 PM and read the procedures to be observed
during the meeting.
A quorum was established. Eleven members were present.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
Mario Valle moved to approve the Agenda as submitted. Second by Dalas Disney. Carried
unanimously, 11— 0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES — JANUARY 49 2012:
Dalas Disney moved to approve the Minutes of the December 7, 2011 Meeting as submitted.
Second by James Boughton. Carried unanimously, 9 — 0.
(Note: Ray Allain and David Hurst could not vote because they did not attend the January
meeting.)
IV. PUBLIC SPEAKERS:
(None)
Judy Puig, Staff Liaison, advised the members to use care when adjusting the microphones to
avoid feedback — the bases will be replaced in the near future.
V. STAFF ANNOUNCEMENTS/UPDATES:
A. Public Utilities: Nathan Beals, Project Manager
• Utilities Standards Discussion Group met on January 17th
o Next meeting: February 21, 2012
• Update: Gravity Sewers — Maximum Depth
• Proposed 15 feet for maximum depth (from finished grade)
■ Originally proposed 10 feet
• Counter: 18 feet
• Discussion continues — an official policy has not been determined
• Process allows review by deviation — specify reasons
• Concern: costs, maintenance issues, disturbance to customers
• Requested that DSAC's Utilities Subcommittee not meet until March
B. Fire Review: Robert Salvaggio, Assistant Fire Code Official — Fire Code Office
• Monthly Activity Report was submitted for December, 2011
• Plan Reviews conducted — 731 (November total — 641)
■ Mixture of renovations and multi - family reviews
• There have been no issues with transfers
■ Scheduled trips: 9:00 AM and 2:00 PM, with additional trips as need
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C. Transportation Engineering: Jay Ahmad, P.E., Director
Collier County Bridges:
• 109 in the County — over half are 50 years or older — bridges are aging
• Bridges are inspected bi- annually by the Florida Department of Transportation
• Received notification from the FDOT — advised to post weight limits on five
bridges within 30 days
• Four are located on State Road #846 (Immokalee), east of SR #29
• One is in Chokoloskee (Chokoloskee Bay)
• Weight limits: 28 tons (4) and 29 tons (1)
• Will present findings to the Board of County Commissioners at next meeting
• Bridge program is marginally funded by gas tax funds
• Golden Gate Blvd. Bridges:
• Locations: Miller Canal and Golden Gate Canal
• Contract for Design/Build was approved by the BCC
• Weight restricted to 29 tons
• Chokoloskee Bridge:
• BCC awarded a contract for Design/Build
• Was repaired approximately 3 years ago (cost: $500,000)
• Weight restriction not lifted —was 35 tons
• White Blvd. and 23`d Street Bridges:
• Still discussing funding (for 23`d St. Bridge) — options under review
• Impact fees were allocated but less than $5M is available
• Concern for future projects (Collier Blvd. /Wilson/Golden Gate)
• Other projects:
• Davis /Collier — 17% completed (Duration: 2%2 years)
• Oil Well Road — western portion will be substantially completed by April and the
eastern portion by June
D. Planning & Regulation: Jamie French, Director — Operations & Regulatory Mgmt.
• Activity Report:
0 1,700 Permit applications received
■ 82 — single - family
■ 4 or 5 — multi- family
■ 2 —commercial projects (new
construction)
■ Remainder: Shutters, A/C,
individual Trade Permits
o Inspections:
■ 6,400 in January
■ 19 — Pre -Apps
■ 60 — Zoning certificates
February 1, 2012
50 — Temporary Use Permits
1 — SDP, 6 — SDP -A, 1 — SDP -I
Land Use side is still down
Pulte, GL Homes, and Lennar are
calling office — may begin new construction projects
• Florida Building Code — becomes effective on March 15th
• At next BCC Meeting — will request outsourcing for Inspections
o Budget: $100K (hire independent contractors through an agency)
"CityView"
• Portal is available
• C/D -Plus permit applications are being phased out
Chairman Varian inquired about inspections — how many per day were conducted.
Jamie French:
• 2009 — 24 per day
• ISO limitation — 16 per day
o in order to comply, Staff would need to be doubled
o County's EGS (Enforcement Grading System)
rating is 4
o City of Naples EGS rating is 3
o EGS rating affects insurance rates
Dalas Disney pointed out the ISO Rating apply to Property Hazard Insurance. He asked
what was the cost difference to an individual on their insurance policy. He suggested the
figure was not significant. He stated the important factor was to keep the number of
inspections performed by each inspector as low as possible to improve the ISO Rating and
hiring inspectors on a contract basis would help reduce the number.
Ray Allain suggested incentivizing the Custom Builders to use providers of 3`d party
Inspectors. He stated a study of private providers could be conducted to ascertain level of
service.
Jamie French stated he was open to investigating but did not think a private provider would
always meet Collier County standards. He stated he can request another inspection by the
ISO Certifiers but preferred to wait until there was a full year of service under "CityView."
Mr. Allain stated a high -end residential builder could afford to utilize a private provider. He
further stated if the difficult inspections were performed by a 3`d party provider, it would
reduce expenses and eliminate the need to hire independent contractors.
Re: "CityView"
Dalas Disney noted Reviewers' comments are returned in PDF format. He could not edit the
document and was forced to retype his original document rather than being able to cut and
paste the comments into it. He suggested returning documents utilizing standard Word
format.
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Jamie French will research the issue with the vendor and Staff.
VI. OLD BUSINESS:
A. LDC Amendments — Recommendations from LDR Subcommittee: Caroline Cilek,
M.C.R.P., Senior Planner — LDC Coordinator, and Clay Brooker
Clay Brooker inquired about the comments from the Environmental Advisory Council.
Caroline Cilek stated the EAC reviews only Amendments with an environmental
component. Several Amendments were returned by the EAC for additional justification.
LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS 2012 — CYCLE 1
1. Section 2.03.07 (G) — Immokalee CRA Overlay District
(Withdrawn)
2. Section 9.04.08 — Administrative Adiustments
Author: Growth Management Division
Purpose: To create an administrative adjustment process for non -use issues, for
residential and commercial structures
Comment: Under review by the County Attorney's Office and will be returned to DSAC
at the next meeting. Updates will be applied to all zoning districts including PUDs and
more specifics will be provided for deviations.
3. Section 10.02.13 (E) — Planned Unit Development ( "PUD") Procedures
Author: Private Applicant
Purpose: To modify the PUD permitted use procedure, allowing for permitted uses to be
text changes.
Comment: Has been sent "back to the drawing board" — working with the CBIA. Goal is
to apply consistent/compatible language throughout the Land Development Code. Will
be reviewed by the County Attorney's Office before bringing to DSAC.
4. Section 10.02.03 (B)(3) — Submittal Requirements for SDPs (Insubstantial Changes)
Author: Growth Management Division
Purpose: To adjust the language and allow for a speedier review process for
insubstantial changes.
Comment: Was completely re- written to provide more flexibility utilizing DSAC's
recommendations to guide how to view insubstantial changes.
Member comments:
• Laura DeJohn objected to the use of the word "guidelines" and suggested
substituting the word "considerations."
February 1, 2012
• Dalas Disney asked what triggered which requirement for full compliance with the
existing Florida Building Code. He had previously suggested examining the existing
Building Code — his concern was with existing developed sites and how they are
required to comply. He asked if the site is not in compliance, what triggers full
compliance. Example, an addition of one square foot triggered full compliance.
He stated the Code contains different levels of renovation — Level I is relatively
minor, Level II is anything under 50 %, and Level III requires full compliance if 50%
or more is renovated. He suggested utilizing the trigger points for site compliance.
Bob Mulhere suggested differentiating between what triggers compliance and what
is an insubstantial change. He stated the issue was determining which process to
follow.
Nick Casalanguida stated once a hard and fast rule is inserted into the Code, it must
be observed.
Jack McKenna stated he will be participating in a round -table discussion with the
District concerning use of percentage versus square footage — it is difficult to find a
"one size fits all" conclusion.
Discussion continued concerning thresholds for a "Letter of Modification" versus a
"Letter of No Objection" and possible separation from the District's requirements.
Mr. Casalanguida stated it must be clear that a proposed SDP -I actually qualifies for
consideration as a true SDP -I and not something else, such as an SDP -A or an SIP —
the contractor must understand the difference. The focus should be on the original
SDP.
Dalas Disney asked how parcels that pre -date the SDP process will be handled.
Jack McKenna stated the goal was to prevent any misinterpretation of the Code
either by Staff or the public.
Mr. Casalanguida noted the Planning Commission will want definitions and specific
language.
Mr. McKenna concurred that flexibility can be a double -edged sword.
Mr. Casalanguida requested the Members to review the information sheet which had
been refined by Claudine Auclair and suggest additional changes. He stated the
explanation of the project was important for Staff. He suggested holding a weekly
Review sessions with 2 or 3 members of DSAC and 2 or 3 Staff members.
Dalas Disney suggested bringing issues to DSAC for review.
Robert Mulhere moved to approve and accept the revised Amendment as discussed
(i.e., elimination of the word "guidelines." Second by Mario Valle.
Ray Allain suggested including a sunset to compel revision and discussion on a
regular basis, especially if there was enough flexibility that could (potentially) be
misused.
Chairman Varian noted under the DSAC Ordinance, any member could bring an
LDC Amendment forward.
Bob Mulhere stated if there was a statutory requirement to review the LDC on a
regular basis (every 3 or 4 years), it might be more effective than a sunset.
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Motion carried, 9 — "Yes " /1— "No." David Hurst was opposed and Mario Valle
was not present for the vote.
Chris Scott, Senior Planner — Growth Management Division, stated:
• Primary task is to go through Administrative Code process
• the County is trying to remove the procedures and application content from
the LDC and place into the Administrative Code
• Procedural issues are found primarily in Chapter 10 of the Land
Development Code but are also interspersed throughout the LDC
• The Administrative Code will site back to specific development criteria
in the LDC
o Will function like a user's handbook
• The Administrative Code will closely follow the LDC
• No substantive changes
• No procedural /regulatory changes
• Still working with the Consultant — White and Smith
• Will be reviewed by the County Attorney's Office
• Cycle II will amend the LDC
• The Code of Laws will be reviewed next
• Time Line:
• February /March — review by Environmental Advisory Council
• April /May — review by the Planning Commission
• June, July, and September — presentation to the Board of County
Commissioners
Updates — Approved Amendments: (Caroline Cilek)
Boat Dock Extension — under review by the County
Attorney's Office — similar to what was approved — will be more objective
and number oriented
Personal Storage Containers — will be moved to
different section of the Code
(Chapter 5)
• Extensions to SDPs and SIPS — placing a two -
extension limit (2 -years per extension) — upon expiration, must apply for SDP -
I or SDP -A — must comply with the Code after 7 years
• Conditional Use Application — CBIA proposed
allowing one extension (2 -years per extension) following the 3 -year time limit
o The Board directed extending the time limit from 3
to 5 years
VII. NEW BUSINESS:
(None)
VIII. COMMITTEE MEMBER COMMENTS:
February 1, 2012
• Chairman Varian stated he could not find the
DSAC Amendment and requested a copy.
o He stated there were reports that DSAC was
required to submit — under Joe and Gary — very specific — he remembered fee
changes — requested research to determine what is still valid
NEXT MEETING DATES:
(Meetings will commence at 3:00 PM unless otherwise notified)
• March 7, 2012
• April 4, 2012
• May 2, 2012
• June 6, 2012
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was adjourned by order
of the Chair at 4:40 PM.
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY
COMMITTEE
William Varian, Chairman
The Minutes we ap roved by the Board /Committee Chair on l 2 , 2012
"as submitted" OR "as amended" [_]
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