EAC Backup 09/07/2011
ENVIRONMENT AL
ADVISORY COUNCIL
BACKUP
September 7, 20 11
(REGULAR MEETING)
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September 7, 2011 EAC Minutes
WMP LTR.pdt; MMP Coservancy letter.pdt; EAC 9-7-11minutes DRAFT.pdt; Lost Grove
misc exh trom public speakers.pdt; Lee county Lost Grove letter. pdt; EXH K.pdt;
Conservancy Lost Grove eac comments.pdt; EAC 9-7-11minutes DRAFT.pdt
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Summer 'E. .Jlraque
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GO WITH THE FLOW
Comments based on review ofthe May 2011 Collier County Watershed Management Plan - DRAFT
By W. James Flanagan III, concerned citizen
September 7, 2011
In a big-picture look at the Watershed Management Plan, I would hope to see a graphic representation
of the comprehensive above-ground and below-ground water flows within each of the defined
Watersheds. With such graphic representation showing flows, clearer perspectives could be provided
with a focus on the larger concerns of where impairments exist or are potential and the resultant
remedial needs as water flows across the watershed. Differentials of impairments over flow and time
would produce a functional analysis of both loads and flows. The methodology of sampling used mayor
may not have allowed for this, but without it, it mayor may not produce results that are more
specifically defining in the approach to mitigate the impairments of the watersheds. Such a graphic
representation of these would be more helpful and user friendly to the reader and the general public as
well, and may be more understandable to political leaders who ultimately will approve such a plan.
Such representation needs to be comprehensive and conceptual so the focus is on the big picture vs.
small spot-fixes that may have only a negligible effect in the individual watershed or on the Big Cypress
Basin as a whole. Regardless of available funding (or lack thereof) for any large or small projects, the
approach should be comprehensive and conceptual. A series of structural projects are indicated across
the various watersheds, but it is unclear how these projects interface/interact/address the concerns
beyond diverting flows.
'Parameters of "Potential Concern1l1 needs to be defined for the layperson and addressed relative to
policy and how the process evolves, both in time, function parameters and money, into a "Concern",
"Serious Concern" and "Critical Concern". This should be incorporated into the study with relative
potential problems, solutions, and costs.
In-Stream Water Quality
- From the studies that are identifying "impairments" in the In-stream Water Quality, graphic
representations across the watersheds indicating loads vs. flows might give clues to sources of
impairments by mapping levels and differentials of impairments as/where the water flows along with
identifiable source potentials of human and natural kinds.
Pollutant Loads
- Gross pollutant loads would identify intensity and locations and could be mapped across flows to
create potential focus-locations for pollutant removal.
- It is also noted on page 12 that "Further wet weather sampling is necessary to better define areas of
agricultural nutrient concern", so I would expect that there would be a proposal and recommendation in
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the conclusions that would evaluate and quantify the needs to achieve such additional work necessary
for providing a complete Collier County Watershed Management Plan. As well, Source-Identification
studies are recommended to evaluate Iron sources among other factors that are likely to cause
impairments.
Figure 1-9. In-Stream Water Quality, Color
From the graphics, In-stream water quality appears in most watersheds, but is not located in detail as to
the measures and where the concentrations are, both across the watershed and across the Big Cypress
Basin.
Figure 1-10. In-Stream Water Quality, Dissolved Oxygen
- From the graphics, In-stream dissolved oxygen is identified in watersheds, but not located in detail as
to the measures are or where the concentrations are, both across the watershed and across the Big
Cypress Basin.
Table 1-3. Average Functional Values of Non-Urban Lands, by Watershed.
- This chart might include as a matter of reference and comparison a column with "Total Watershed
Acres"
Measured Functional Values should define the methodology used in detail as the recommendation on
Page 32 suggests that the functional values presented here provide performance measures for later
evaluation of proposed projects. One would expect a very detailed explanation of the methodologies
and provide for an independent analysis and vetting of their function prior to creating any binding
performance measures and criteria.
Within the annual pollutant loads discussed in 2.2: Quality of Discharge, I would expect that there would
be peak and low values within the annual pollutant load data, and would hope that such would be
analyzed across flow, volume and season for each watershed and for basins within the watershed. As
well, results should be incorporated into this report indicating the duration and magnitude of an
impairment of "potential concern" as a matter of reference and measure, and defining the time period
of "potential concern" represented within the annual pollutant load data.
* In general, graphic representations in the report are barely if not legible - especially the legends within
the figures.
Given that the Collier County Watershed Management Plan is a comprehensive plan, a comprehensive
conceptual program plan, conceptual timeline, and conceptual but realistic funding plan should be
spelled out within the conclusions and recommendations. Without timelines and funding sources, a plan
can never be realized. A prioritization of capital projects should be functionally and schematically
proposed, and a functional project plan should also be functionally and schematically proposed.
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Regulatory-based non-structural component and incentive programs have not been provided in the
draft document. On page 61, "Evaluation and Recommendations for Regulatory and Policy Changes"
states that "This section will be completed pending full evaluation of the comments received from the
stakeholders during the week of May 12.
At a minimum, a policy should be established for mitigation and reconstruction of wetlands lost to
development within the Big Cypress Basin which should require such mitigation to be done within the
Big Cypress Basin, not outside the County. The benefits of wetlands preservation are lost to wetlands
mitigation banks outside the functional Big Cypress Basin watershed.
Policies analysis and issues such as re-use water (for irrigation of for potential future potable water
source with appropriate treatment) are not apparent within 1.2.2: Water Uses. Although the County's
reuse water system currently may not produce enough irrigation water to make a significant impact on
the water budgets, some consideration and discussion for alternative water sources should be part of
the analysis.
As well, consideration should be made to address the existence and long-term functionality of on-site
septic systems in the most of the rural areas of the County, and as such, policies for arbitrarily raising
groundwater levels and/or incorporating temporary water storage via control of canal structures must
be made with science and understanding ofthe consequences, both on a system-wide basis as well as
potential impacts on individual septic systems/homeowners.
Future populations and transportation projects will have a significant impact on the flows and water
controls. Given the future populations in the Eastern Lands east of Desoto Blvd and the lack of a future
transportation plan for this area of the County, much attention should be afforded and accounted for in
this plan. No mention of future populations or long-term perspectives is provided in either the Potential
Structural Improvement Projects or as a look forward for planning and conceptualizing the future.
The Recommendations provide for 27 "Structural Improvement" Projects. The description of these
projects and their affect on each other need to be discussed further, and a comprehensive approach to
the entire watershed must be conceptualized so that the next level of watershed functions and projects
can be focused. Without a timeline and an inter-relation of proposed project and a complete watershed
plan vision, these 27 projects are just 27 projects with an estimated cost of $25 Million, with no
overlying conceptual far-reaching plan beyond. If it does not exist, there should be a Drainage Area
Master Plan, a recommendation made at one of the stakeholder meetings. A comprehensive Surface
Water Plan should incorporate storm water and include surface water approaches.
An explanation of what comes after these 27 projects is warranted, unless these 27 projects complete
the entire watershed management plan.
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Finally, as a member of the Golden Gate Estates Civic Association, I would be remiss if I did not restate
comments, concerns and issues of raised by our members pertaining to watershed Management and
the Collier County Watershed Management Plan:
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The need for wetland mitigation within our functional drainage basin
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Evaluation and analysis of development permit applications adjacent to and impacting the Estates
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Consideration of Surface Water management and Flood mediation issues and concepts to
compliment, and maximize, the efficiency of the limited primary drainage system
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Protection of the limited potable water supply for the Estates and Collier County
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Improved coordination of permitting, operating, and regulatory agencies, including SFWMD/WPB,
Big Cypress Basin, DEP, USACE, and Collier County Stormwater, to develop a comprehensive water
management plan for Golden Gate Estates as a subdivision
Two significant activities in the near term will greatly affect how water management proceeds in the
Golden Gate Estates Area: FEMA flood map updates (with mandatory flood insurance for mortgage
holders), and the upcoming restudy of the Golden Gate Estates Master Plan. Critical also are any
RFMUD and RLSA plan updates. We hope to continue to work together with all agencies this fall, and on
a continuing basis, to develop some effective, efficient, and positive changes for the long term benefit of
both Golden Gate Estates and Collier County.
I participated in several Watershed Management Plan Committee meetings, met with the consultants as
part of a stakeholder group, have spoken before the Big Cypress Basin of the South Florida Water
Management District, participated in FEMA Flood Map informational meetings, and have been part of a
ongoing discussion amongst Civic Association members and the Board of Directors of the Golden Gate
Estates Area Civic Association discussing community concerns and issues pertaining to watershed
management, water resources, water supply, and water quality concerns.
I am not an engineer, nor a professional in administration of governmental agencies. However in
following the meetings, conversations and concerns, I bring my comments and review as a concerned
citizen in an effort to improve and develop a realistic and comprehensive Watershed Management Plan
that will be effective, visionary, realistic and achievable. I share my comments for the betterment of the
County, to continue the dialogue and to provoke further thought and discussion on this issue prior to
finalizing a Watershed Management Plan for adoption.
Respectfully,
W. James Flanagan III
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Lost Grove Mine
September 7, 2011
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL
Naples, Florida, September 7,2011
Government Complex Naples, Florida with
al Advisory Council in and
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, the Collier County Envir
for the County of Collier, having conducted busin
et on this date at 9:00 AM
in a REGULAR SESSION at Administrative
r, Judith Hushon (Excused)
rew Dickman
el Sorrell
vid Bishof
ina Downs
Gary McNally
ms, A istant County Attorney
que, Sr. Environmentalist Specialist
, Sr. Environmental Specialist
enna, County Engineer
Wil orenz, Director, Environmental Services
Chris D' Arco, Environmental Specialist
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September 7, 2011
I. Call to Order
Mr. Dickman called the meeting to order at 9:00AM.
II. Roll Call
Roll call was taken and a quorum was established.
III. Approval of Agenda
The Council approved the Agenda noting Item VIlLA was to be heard prior to item VI.A.
A. Phase Two of Collier County
Presented by Bob Mulhere an
, Second by Mr. Sorrell. Carried
IV. Approval ofthe August 3, 2011 meeting minutes
Ms. Downs moved to approve the minutes of the August 3, 201
unanimously 5 - 0,
V. Upcoming Environmental Advisory Council A
None
VII. Old Business
Item VIllA was heard before item VIA
al update on the Collier
o address land use, mobility and
vehicle hours of travel (VHT) and
ofitting of existing developments.
t (www.colliergov.net/mastermobilityplan).
ng the Plan,
d Development of Recommendations (current Phase).
licy Language.
.
Under Council! ns the following was highlighted:
1. Consideratl be given to incorporating existing examples of land use into the Plan
(i.e. Mercato, es Boulevard).
2. Concern on the timing required for construction of any infrastructure/land uses under the
standards identified in the Plan. An example was cited where a developer constructed and
sold all the housing units (4500) in a multi use project without completing the commercial
uses associated with the project increasing VMT and VHT on area roadways.
3. Concern on the marketability of potential standards identified, especially retrofitting (i.e.
the preference/existence of gated communities).
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September 7, 2011
Speaker
Nicole Johnson, Conservancy of Southwest Florida supports the Plan, however stressed the
Policies developed will be the key to an implementing an effective Plan. The planning horizons
in existing plans need to be incorporated into shorter term policies. She submitted a copy of an
email to her from Nick Casalanguida, Deputy Administrator, Growth Management Division, dated
September 1, 2011 which addresses concerns the Conservancy has identified.
VI. Land Use Petitions
A. Lost Grove Mine Conditional Use
CU - PL2009-1412
Lost Grove Mine Excavation Permit
EXP - PL2010-1526
All persons testifying were sworn in.
.
.
.
.
.
.
risdiction over the project.
overview of the surface water management
tention Areas under the Rural Land
. tive vegetation preserved meeting all Collier County requirements.
. ter management system was permitted in 1980 by South Florida
trict (SFWMD).
. ows primarily from the northwest to southeast with final discharge
into the CRE lands.
. There are 2 phases: mining operation and reclamation.
. During the mining operation phase stormwater will be retained 3 feet above a 25 year
storm event with no discharge from the lakes.
. During the reclamation phase, discharge will be controlled as required in current Collier
County Ordinances.
. The FDEPIERP states "the results of the preliminary well water testing have shown that
the site may be mined without adverse affects to the regional groundwater quality" and
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September 7, 2011
"the eventual replacement of that portion of the citrus grove with reclaimed quarry lakes
should result in net improvements in water quality and quantity for the CREW lands
through decreases in agricultural discharges and ground water pumping. "
Dennis Roza, Roza and Associates provided an overview of the mining operations highlighting:
. In order to limit disturbed areas, the mining will initiate in the northerly portion of the
property and progress southerly, then easterly.
. The mining is to be completed in "cells."
. The maximum amount of product removed is antici
. Hours of operation - Monday through Saturday,
. Blasting permits will be required by the State
placed as required.
. The blasting will occur between 9 am a
. Dust control will be in accordance w'
and loading area will be paved.
. Water quality monitor wells will b
t 5 million tons per year.
6pm.
all's Office with seismographs
The entrance road
transportation
.
.
truck trips and will not have a
.
.
Collier County for road maintenance in the
e north and northwest of the project.
eluding widening and resurfacing.
er Services provided an overview of the
d analyzing soil borings and ground water monitor wells
(a
. The c aries between 45 feet to 145 feet below existing grade.
. The site to a depth 1 foot above the confining layer with lakes comprising
the finishe eas.
. Groundwater models indicate groundwater levels will increase due to the decreased
agricultural irrigation currently occurring on site.
. The land use change from agricultural to mining will create a reduction in on site water
usage.
. With respect to impacts on CREW lands, there will be an increase in groundwater levels.
Tim Durham, Wilson Miller Stantec provided an overview on the wildlife aspects of the project
highlighting:
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September 7, 2011
. The site was originally permitted by South Florida Water Management District for citrus
operations.
. As part of the citrus operation application, the wetlands impacted on site were mitigated
(via CREW) with no additional mitigation required under the current proposal.
. The property is subject to 123 acres of primary panther zone and 1259 acres of secondary
panther zone.
. Off site mitigation is proposed for the impacts on the Florida Panther including
conservation easements and a perpetual management fund for the site.
Chris D' Arco, Environmental Specialist addressed the
"Environmental Advisory Council Staff Report, Meeti
Staff recommends the application be approved wit
1 noting Staff has submitted
mber 7, 2011" for their review.
s.
Break: 10:30am
Reconvened: 1 0:40am
Donald Eslick,
Concerns: Po
the
, the current lack of demand for
e applications in the area.
t proposed to be mined, potential negative
sity Reduction/Groundwater Resource) area,
impacts to the operation (90 trips/hour) and potential
racter of the area.
ned Ci zens
pacts on the Lee County DRGR, the current lack of demand for
ned, potential negative impacts on the character of the area,
mpacts on Corkscrew Regional Estuary Watershed (CREW) lands.
Matt Noble, Lee Con Government
Concerns: The proposed use is incompatible with surrounding land uses (agriculture, CREW lands
and residential with residences a near as 100 feet from the property line, 450 residences
directly affected by the application), potential negative impacts on the Lee County
DRGR (Density Reduction/Groundwater Resource) area and associated groundwater
resources, potential negative impacts on area roadways with no mitigation proposed,
insufficient setbacks from residential properties for mining activity (cited a
recommendation from another Agencies of 1000' buffer),potential negative impacts
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September 7, 2011
from blasting to area residents, potential negative surface water impacts, potential
negative impacts to existing drilled wells,
Documentation entered: Map showing the location of residences in the vicinity of the proposed
project.
Becky Sweigert, Lee County Government
Concerns: Potential negative impacts on Florida Panther habitat, potential negative impacts on
Wood Stork habitat without proposed mitigation ntial negative impact on on site
and offsite wetlands, potential negative impac e and Collier groundwater
resources, lack of demonstration by the app . project will not have an adverse
impact on ground and surface waters inc e water supplies, lack of a
remediation plan should any water re be negatively affected.
Documentation entered:
onditional Use - Exhibit
taZity Data
Alvin Block, Lee County Government
(He noted Lee County Staff con d a review 0
document provided).
'ndicated in the
Recommendations:
acks from property lines;
and surface waters; requiring
rect access to Corkscrew road
1 from Frank Mann, Chairman, Lee County
. ssioners to Fred Coyle, Chairman, Collier
ommissioner - Re: Lost Grove Mine
-2009-1412 and EXP-PL-2010-1526}.
ications submitted to Lee County, Staff conducts an
undwater studies to ensure compliance with County
ining County permits as necessary).
Neal Ott, Co
Concerns: Pote
impacts
nt
mpacts on area public and private water supplies, potential negative
aracter of the area.
Joe Staiger, Corkscrew Settlement
Concerns: Potential negative impacts on private water supplies (numerous wells in the area are
shallow wells), potential negative impacts on the character ofthe area.
Hugh Starnes, Adjoining Landowner
Concerns: Potential negative impacts on the Lee County DRGR area, potential negative impacts
on the character of the area, previous determinations by Lee County Government that
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September 7, 2011
due to environmental considerations mining activities should be prohibited in the area,
potential negative impacts on CREW lands including public activities.
Kim Staiger, Corkscrew Settlement
Concerns: Potential negative impacts on the character of the area.
John Ban, Corkscrew Settlement
Concerns: Potential negative impacts on the character of the area, potential negative impacts on
historic settlements and heritage, potential negati pacts on Lake Trafford, potential
negative impacts on area public and private w plies.
Kevin Hill, ECCL
Concerns: Potential negative impacts on the Lee
to Florida Panther including increa
not conduct independent review
these reviews to other Agencie
ea, potential negative impacts
'lls, Collier County Staff did
rovided and deferred
Ellen
Concerns: Potential negative i
Documentation entered:
ds, potential negative impacts on the character
on wildlife habitat and activity.
F
from
roadwa
the issues
n betw Lee and Collier County given Lee County Staff
k of an independent review of issues associated with the
ion by Collier County Staff, inadequate non mining activity buffers
rties, potential negative impacts on wildlife habitat including
of the Florida Panther, approval of the application is premature given
d by Lee County Staff and others.
Document entered: Copy of email from James Golden, SFWMD to Alan Whitehouse, FDEP
dated April 1, 2011- Subject: FW: Lost Grove Mine ERP Application-
which states "It appears that there would be more ecological benefit from
preserving a substantial restored buffer (approximately 1000 feet wide) along
the perimeter of the mine where it abuts existing natural areas and CREW,
rather than preserving wetlands internal to the mining operation. "
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September 7, 2011
Phyllis Sanderson, ECCL
Concerns: Potential negative impacts on area public and private water supplies.
Beverly MacNellis, ECCL
Concerns: Potential negative impacts on the Lee County residents.
Lena Boles, ECCL
Concerns: The current lack of demand for the product prop
Break: 12:58pm
Reconvened: 1:34p
Marcia Cravens, Sierra Club, Calusa Group
Concerns: Public information concerns regarding I
Meetings, deficient Staff Report with
relation to the FLUE (Future Land
lands.
Documents entered: Package from the Si
for Neighborhood Information
. ew on the impacts of the use in
negative impacts on CREW
Bruce Williams
Concerns: Potential negative i
residential use of th
of the area, potential negative
property owner
character of the area, potential negative
urface w resources and watersheds, economic benefit to
e environmental "cost," potential negative impacts on
nd Development, Inc. stated:
The project is not bject to requirements of the Lee County DRGR area, it is within the
Rural Land Stewardship Area with mining as permitted conditional use.
2. The project has been issued a FDEP/ERP permit which addresses surface and groundwater
impacts.
Mr. English stated the project will provide a net benefit to groundwater in the area with increased
storage and decreased discharges. Upon completion the mine will potentially discharge less
surface flow waters than currently exists under the citrus operation.
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September 7, 2011
Scott Manahan stated dewatering will be limited to a depth of 10 - 15 feet below existing grade,
with a dewatering permit required from SFWMD. The concern for area shallow wells supplying
water to individual homes is unfounded as modeling indicates an increased storage groundwater
potential for the area.
Mr. Talone noted the current MPO (Metropolitan Planning Organization) Plan incorporates
widening substantial portions of SR82.
Tim Durham stated the area of primary panther zone on
from the areas identified as primary habitat. The appl'
Wildlife Service requirements for negative impacts
erty is a "300 foot buffer zone"
I be subject to the US Fish and
Cles.
Mr. English stated the recommendation for a
FDEPIERP review process. The applicant
concerns of the FDEP.
as generated during the
ue and satisfied the
ith Staff and the applicant's
.
or t lorida Panther given the
r sunset.
negative impact on surrounding
.
. ve impact on area drinking water wells and
mining activity buffer from the property lines.
ination fr the fueling of vehicles/equipment on site.
'vely impact surface and groundwater flows in the area.
has no iewed the technical data associated with ground and
ociated with the application.
Other issues
Steve Williams,
environmental aspe
s future traffic planning, funding of roadway improvements, etc.
unty Attorney stated the Council is to restrict their review to the
e application.
The Applicants representatives confirmed:
. A third party, independent firm will conduct a pre-blast inspection (for any property owner
who agrees) of water wells, structures and/or any other applicable features of a property
owner (the intent is to identify a list of qualified consultants, where a property owner can
select the consultant with the inspection to be completed at the expense of the applicant).
If damage occurs, the applicant will resolve the issue with the landowner. Blasting is
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September 7,2011
subject to State Fire Marshall requirements (including the installation of seismographs and
bonding by the applicant and the company conducting the blasting).
. On site fuel tanks are intended to be double wall and placed in containment bunkers to help
prevent fuel spills from entering the soil.
Staff stated:
. Issues related to wetland permitting, impacts on surface and subsurface water flows, etc.
are addressed by State Agencies with the County re the applicants obtain those
permits as necessary. Agencies determinations ar upon by Collier County for
satisfying any requirements.
The applicant agreed to submit to Staff, the MS
hazardous materials to be used or stored on
The Council (with input from Staff and th
concerns identified and conditions which ma
Ms. Downs moved to recomme
Mine Conditional Use applica
(EXP-PL2010-1526) subject to t
missioners appro e Lost Grove
ost Grove Mine Excavation Permit
1.
mining operations" buffer
a map titled "Lost Grove
ther Telemetry, GPS Mortality
ad as it runs in a northeasterly direction until
"primary panther zone. "
'Perty and running northerly along the
xlmately 4120 feet**.
corner 0 e property and running southerly along the
e of approximately 2060 feet**.
e "scaled" from Addendum A, if conflict exists, the physical
the Addendum shall govern.
2. The hours 0 be restricted to 30 minutes after sunrise to 30 minutes before
sunset. Daily ho operation to be numerically identified by signage at the entrance of
the project conformmg as close as possible to the time of operation required for that day,
3. In order to protect off site wetlands, the project to meet the "pre-mining discharges" up to
the level allowed by current Collier County regulations.
4. Exterior lighting to be shielded downward, directed toward the center of the site in the area
of operation and not to exceed twenty feet in height.
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September 7,2011
5. The installation of signs (in Spanish and English) on the entrance road educating drivers
on the potential of panther activity on area roadways with requests to prohibit such
nuisance activities as the use of the "jake brakes," etc,
6, All trucks associated with mine operations to be "cued" onsite.
7. No on-site activities associated with any aspects of the mining operation between lO:OOpm
and % hour before the mine is scheduled to open the following morning (morning activity %
hour before opening is to be "Administrative" in natur omplete the activities necessary
to open the site for operations).
Break: 5:01pm
Reconvened: 5: 1 Opm
Mac Hatcher
Second by Mr. Sorrell. Carried unanimously 5 - o.
VIII. New Business
None
IX.
s ofthe Plan may not contain the necessary
es not agree with the exact language in some
age in others areas.
Mr.
develop
the Plan.
e for documen
I in nature. It will be used as a guideline for Staff to
such as rdinances, Codes or Policies, etc. necessary to implement
will have input on the detailed language and standards developed
he purview of the EAC).
Mr. Dickman note
it be moved forward t
is a dynamic document, available to future changes and recommend
gh the approval process.
Mr. Bishofmoved to recommend the Board of County Commissioners approve the proposed
Collier County Watershed Management Plan. Second by Mr. McNally.
Mr. Bishof amended the motion to include the following conditions:
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September 7, 2011
1. Staff to review and comment on the conformance of the Plan with respect to any
environmental applications presented to the Environmental Advisory Council for
consideration.
2. Staff to provide an annual update to the Environmental Advisory Council on the status of
implementing the Plan.
3. Staff to begin the process of developing a Low Impact Development (LID) Manual.
Second by Mr. McNally.
X.
Sneaker
Nicole Johnson, Conservancy of Southwest Florida
and Staff she has reached an understanding that:
1. The title of the Functional Assessment Map
2. Collier County will develop its own LID
manual).
3. The best available data and technolog
he met with Mr. Hatcher today
Marcia Cravens, Sierra Calu
Program for the Plan. All parties
reviewed and modified as necessar
IX.
XI.
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was adjourned by the
order of the Chair at 6:21 PM.
COLLIER COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL
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September 7, 2011
Vice Chairman, Andrew Dickman
These Minutes were approved by the Board/Chairman on
as presented , or as amended
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September 7,2011
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL
Naples, Florida, September 7, 2011
for the County of Collier, having conducted busin
al Advisory Council in and
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, the Collier County Envir
et on this date at 9:00 AM
in a REGULAR SESSION at Administrative
Government Complex Naples, Florida with
r, Judith Hushon (Excused)
rew Dickman
el Sorrell
vid Bishof
ina Downs
Gary McNally
ms, A istant County Attorney
que, Sr, Environmentalist Specialist
, Sr. Environmental Specialist
enna, County Engineer
Wil Lorenz, Director, Environmental Services
Chris D' Arco, Environmental Specialist
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September 7, 2011
I. Call to Order
Mr. Dickman called the meeting to order at 9:00AM.
II. Roll Call
Roll call was taken and a quorum was established.
III. Approval of Agenda
The Council approved the Agenda noting Item VIlI.A was to be heard prior to item VI.A.
A. Phase Two of Collier County
Presented by Bob Mulhere an
. Second by Mr. Sorrell, Carried
IV. Approval ofthe August 3, 2011 meeting minutes
Ms. Downs moved to approve the minutes o/the August 3,201
unanimously 5 - O.
V. Upcoming Environmental Advisory Council A
None
VII. Old Business
Item VIllA was heard before item VIA
al update on the Collier
to address land use, mobility and
vehicle hours of travel (VHT) and
ofitting of existing developments.
t ( www.colliergov.net/mastermobilityplan) .
ng the Plan,
d Development of Recommendations (current Phase).
licy Language.
.
ns the following was highlighted:
be given to incorporating existing examples of land use into the Plan
(i.e. Mercato, es Boulevard).
2. Concern on the timing required for construction of any infrastructure/land uses under the
standards identified in the Plan. An example was cited where a developer constructed and
sold all the housing units (4500) in a multi use project without completing the commercial
uses associated with the project increasing VMT and VHT on area roadways.
3. Concern on the marketability of potential standards identified, especially retrofitting (i.e.
the preference/existence of gated communities).
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Speaker
Nicole Johnson, Conservancy of Southwest Florida supports the Plan, however stressed the
Policies developed will be the key to an implementing an effective Plan. The planning horizons
in existing plans need to be incorporated into shorter term policies. She submitted a copy of an
email to her from Nick Casalanguida, Deputy Administrator, Growth Management Division, dated
September 1, 2011 which addresses concerns the Conservancy has identified.
VI. Land Use Petitions
A. Lost Grove Mine Conditional Use
CU - PL2009-1412
Lost Grove Mine Excavation Permit
EXP - PL2010-1526
All persons testifying were sworn in.
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overview of the surface water management
tention Areas under the Rural Land
. tive vegetation preserved meeting all Collier County requirements.
. ter management system was permitted in 1980 by South Florida
trict (SFWMD).
. ows primarily from the northwest to southeast with final discharge
into the CRE lands.
. There are 2 phases: mining operation and reclamation.
. During the mining operation phase stormwater will be retained 3 feet above a 25 year
storm event with no discharge from the lakes.
. During the reclamation phase, discharge will be controlled as required in current Collier
County Ordinances.
. The FDEPIERP states "the results of the preliminary well water testing have shown that
the site may be mined without adverse affects to the regional groundwater quality" and
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"the eventual replacement of that portion of the citrus grove with reclaimed quarry lakes
should result in net improvements in water quality and quantity for the CREW lands
through decreases in agricultural discharges and ground water pumping. "
Dennis Roza, Roza and Associates provided an overview of the mining operations highlighting:
. In order to limit disturbed areas, the mining will initiate in the northerly portion of the
property and progress southerly, then easterly.
. The mining is to be completed in "cells."
. The maximum amount of product removed is antici
. Hours of operation - Monday through Saturday,
. Blasting permits will be required by the State
placed as required.
. The blasting will occur between 9 am a
. Dust control will be in accordance w'
and loading area will be paved.
. Water quality monitor wells will be
t 5 million tons per year.
6pm.
all's Office with seismographs
The entrance road
transportation
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truck trips and will not have a
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e north and northwest of the project.
eluding widening and resurfacing.
er Services provided an overview of the
d analyzing soil borings and ground water monitor wells
(a
. The c aries between 45 feet to 145 feet below existing grade.
. The site to a depth 1 foot above the confining layer with lakes comprising
the finishe eas.
. Groundwater models indicate groundwater levels will increase due to the decreased
agricultural irrigation currently occurring on site.
. The land use change from agricultural to mining will create a reduction in on site water
usage.
. With respect to impacts on CREW lands, there will be an increase in groundwater levels.
Tim Durham, Wilson Miller Stantec provided an overview on the wildlife aspects of the project
highlighting:
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. The site was originally permitted by South Florida Water Management District for citrus
operations.
. As part of the citrus operation application, the wetlands impacted on site were mitigated
(via CREW) with no additional mitigation required under the current proposal.
. The property is subject to 123 acres of primary panther zone and 1259 acres of secondary
panther zone.
. Off site mitigation is proposed for the impacts on the Florida Panther including
conservation easements and a perpetual management fund for the site.
Break: JO:30am
Reconvened: 1 0:40am
Chris D' Arco, Environmental Specialist addressed th
"Environmental Advisory Council Staff Report, Meeti
Staff recommends the application be approved wit
1 noting Staffhas submitted
ember 7, 2011" for their review.
s.
Donald Eslick,
Concerns: Po
the
, the current lack of demand for
e applications in the area.
t proposed to be mined, potential negative
nsity Reduction/Groundwater Resource) area,
impacts to the operation (90 trips/hour) and potential
racter of the area.
ned Ci zens
pacts on the Lee County DRGR, the current lack of demand for
ned, potential negative impacts on the character of the area,
mpacts on Corkscrew Regional Estuary Watershed (CREW) lands.
Matt Noble, Lee COll Government
Concerns: The proposed use is incompatible with surrounding land uses (agriculture, CREW lands
and residential with residences a near as 100 feet from the property line, 450 residences
directly affected by the application), potential negative impacts on the Lee County
DRGR (Density Reduction/Groundwater Resource) area and associated groundwater
resources, potential negative impacts on area roadways with no mitigation proposed,
insufficient setbacks from residential properties for mining activity (cited a
recommendation from another Agencies of 1000' buffer),potential negative impacts
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from blasting to area residents, potential negative surface water impacts, potential
negative impacts to existing drilled wells.
Documentation entered: Map showing the location of residences in the vicinity of the proposed
project.
Becky Sweigert, Lee County Government
Concerns: Potential negative impacts on Florida Panther habitat, potential negative impacts on
Wood Stork habitat without proposed mitigation ntial negative impact on onsite
and offsite wetlands, potential negative impac e and Collier groundwater
resources, lack of demonstration by the app . project will not have an adverse
impact on ground and surface waters inc e water supplies, lack of a
remediation plan should any water re be negatively affected.
Documentation entered:
onditional Use - Exhibit
rtality Data
Alvin Block, Lee County Government
(He noted Lee County Staff con d a review 0
document provided).
'ndicated in the
Recommendations:
backs from property lines;
and surface waters; requiring
rect access to Corkscrew road
1 from Frank Mann, Chairman, Lee County
. ssioners to Fred Coyle, Chairman, Collier
ommissioner - Re: Lost Grove Mine
-2009-1412 and EXP-PL-2010-1526).
ications submitted to Lee County, Staff conducts an
undwater studies to ensure compliance with County
ining County permits as necessary).
Neal Ott, Co
Concerns: Pote
impacts
nt
mpacts on area public and private water supplies, potential negative
aracter of the area.
Joe Staiger, Corkscrew Settlement
Concerns: Potential negative impacts on private water supplies (numerous wells in the area are
shallow wells), potential negative impacts on the character of the area.
Hugh Starnes, Adjoining Landowner
Concerns: Potential negative impacts on the Lee County DRGR area, potential negative impacts
on the character of the area, previous determinations by Lee County Government that
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due to environmental considerations mining activities should be prohibited in the area,
potential negative impacts on CREW lands including public activities.
Kim Staiger, Corkscrew Settlement
Concerns: Potential negative impacts on the character of the area.
John Ban, Corkscrew Settlement
Concerns: Potential negative impacts on the character of the area, potential negative impacts on
historic settlements and heritage, potential negati pacts on Lake Trafford, potential
negative impacts on area public and private w plies.
Kevin Hill, ECCL
Concerns: Potential negative impacts on the Lee
to Florida Panther including incre
not conduct independent review
these reviews to other Agencie
a, potential negative impacts
'lls, Collier County Staff did
rovided and deferred
Ellen
Concerns: Potential negative i
Documentation entered:
ds, potential negative impacts on the character
on wildlife habitat and activity.
F
from
roadwa
the issues
n betw Lee and Collier County given Lee County Staff
k of an independent review of issues associated with the
. on by Collier County Staff, inadequate non mining activity buffers
rties, potential negative impacts on wildlife habitat including
fthe Florida Panther, approval of the application is premature given
d by Lee County Staff and others.
Document entered: Copy of email from James Golden, SFWMD to Alan Whitehouse, FDEP
dated April 1, 2011- Subject: FW: Lost Grove Mine ERP Application-
which states "It appears that there would be more ecological benefit from
preserving a substantial restored buffer (approximately 1000 feet wide) along
the perimeter of the mine where it abuts existing natural areas and CREW;
rather than preserving wetlands internal to the mining operation. "
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Phyllis Sanderson, ECCL
Concerns: Potential negative impacts on area public and private water supplies.
Beverly MacNellis, ECCL
Concerns: Potential negative impacts on the Lee County residents.
Lena Boles, ECCL
Concerns: The current lack of demand for the product prop
Break: 12:58pm
Reconvened: 1:34p
Marcia Cravens, Sierra Club, Calusa Group
Concerns: Public information concerns regarding 1
Meetings, deficient Staff Report with
relation to the FLUE (Future Land
lands.
Documents entered: Package from the Si
for Neighborhood Information
. ew on the impacts of the use in
negative impacts on CREW
Bruce Williams
Concerns: Potential negative i
residential use of th
of the area, potential negative
t property owner
g character of the area, potential negative
urface wa resources and watersheds, economic benefit to
e environmental "cost," potential negative impacts on
Mr. Schrotenboe , nd Development, Inc. stated:
1. The project is not bject to requirements of the Lee County DRGR area, it is within the
Rural Land Stewardship Area with mining as permitted conditional use.
2. The project has been issued a FDEP/ERP permit which addresses surface and groundwater
impacts.
Mr. English stated the project will provide a net benefit to groundwater in the area with increased
storage and decreased discharges. Upon completion the mine will potentially discharge less
surface flow waters than currently exists under the citrus operation.
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Scott Manahan stated dewatering will be limited to a depth of 10 - 15 feet below existing grade,
with a dewatering permit required from SFWMD. The concern for area shallow wells supplying
water to individual homes is unfounded as modeling indicates an increased storage groundwater
potential for the area.
Mr. Talone noted the current MPO (Metropolitan Planning Organization) Plan incorporates
widening substantial portions of SR82.
Tim Durham stated the area of primary panther zone on
from the areas identified as primary habitat. The appl'
Wildlife Service requirements for negative impacts
erty is a "300 foot buffer zone"
I be subject to the US Fish and
Cles.
Mr. English stated the recommendation for a
FDEP/ERP review process. The applicant
concerns of the FDEP.
as generated during the
e and satisfied the
ith Staff and the applicant's
.
for t lorida Panther given the
r sunset.
negative impact on surrounding
.
. ve impact on area drinking water wells and
ining activity buffer from the property lines.
Other issues
Steve Williams,
environmental aspe
s future traffic planning, funding of roadway improvements, etc.
unty Attorney stated the Council is to restrict their review to the
e application.
The Applicants representatives confirmed:
. A third party, independent firm will conduct a pre-blast inspection (for any property owner
who agrees) of water wells, structures and/or any other applicable features of a property
owner (the intent is to identify a list of qualified consultants, where a property owner can
select the consultant with the inspection to be completed at the expense of the applicant).
If damage occurs, the applicant will resolve the issue with the landowner. Blasting is
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subject to State Fire Marshall requirements (including the installation of seismographs and
bonding by the applicant and the company conducting the blasting).
. On site fuel tanks are intended to be double wall and placed in containment bunkers to help
prevent fuel spills from entering the soil.
Staff stated:
. Issues related to wetland permitting, impacts on surface and subsurface water flows, etc.
are addressed by State Agencies with the County re the applicants obtain those
permits as necessary. Agencies determinations ar upon by Collier County for
satisfying any requirements.
The applicant agreed to submit to Staff, the MS
hazardous materials to be used or stored on
The Council (with input from Staff and th
concerns identified and conditions which ma
Ms. Downs moved to recomme
Mine Conditional Use applicat
(EXP-PL2010-1526) subject to t
IsslOners appro e Lost Grove
ost Grove Mine Excavation Permit
1.
mining operations" buffer
a map titled "Lost Grove
ther Telemetry, GPS Mortality
ad as it runs in a northeasterly direction until
"primary panther zone. "
']Jerty and running northerly along the
xlmately 4120 feet**.
corner 0 e property and running southerly along the
e of approximately 2060 feet**.
e "scaled" from Addendum A, if conflict exists, the physical
the Addendum shall govern.
2. be restricted to 30 minutes after sunrise to 30 minutes before
sunset. Daily ho operation to be numerically identified by signage at the entrance of
the project conforming as close as possible to the time of operation required for that day.
3. In order to protect offsite wetlands, the project to meet the ''pre-mining discharges" up to
the level allowed by current Collier County regulations.
4. Exterior lighting to be shielded downward, directed toward the center of the site in the area
of operation and not to exceed twenty feet in height.
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5. The installation of signs (in Spanish and English) on the entrance road educating drivers
on the potential of panther activity on area roadways with requests to prohibit such
nuisance activities as the use of the "jake brakes," etc.
6. All trucks associated with mine operations to be "cued" onsite.
7. No on-site activities associated with any aspects of the mining operation between lO:OOpm
and Y2 hour before the mine is scheduled to open the following morning (morning activity Y2
hour before opening is to be "Administrative" in natur omplete the activities necessary
to open the site for operations).
Second by Mr. Sorrell. Carried unanimously 5 - O.
s of the Plan may not contain the necessary
Break: 5:01pm
Reconvened: 5: 1 Opm
VIII. New Business
None
IX.
es not agree with the exact language in some
age in others areas.
Mr.
develop
the Plan.
e for documen
I in nature. It will be used as a guideline for Staff to
such as dinances, Codes or Policies, etc. necessary to implement
will have input on the detailed language and standards developed
he purview of the EAC).
Mr. Dickman note
it be moved forward t
is a dynamic document, available to future changes and recommend
gh the approval process.
Mr. Bishofmoved to recommend the Board of County Commissioners approve the proposed
Collier County Watershed Management Plan. Second by Mr. McNally.
Mr. Bishof amended the motion to include the following conditions:
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1. Staff to review and comment on the conformance of the Plan with respect to any
environmental applications presented to the Environmental Advisory Council for
consideration.
2. Staff to provide an annual update to the Environmental Advisory Council on the status of
implementing the Plan.
3. Staff to begin the process of developing a Low Impact Development (LID) Manual
Second by Mr. McNally.
X.
Speaker
Nicole Johnson, Conservancy of Southwest Florida
and Staff she has reached an understanding that:
1. The title of the Functional Assessment Map
2. Collier County will develop its own LID
manual).
3. The best available data and technolog
he met with Mr. Hatcher today
Marcia Cravens, Sierra Calu
Program for the Plan. All parties
reviewed and modified as necessa
nce of developing a Public Outreach
the Plan is to be continually
C. Update mem
None
IX.
XI.
There being no further business for the good ofthe County, the meeting was adjourned by the
order of the Chair at 6:21 PM.
COLLIER COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL
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Vice Chairman, Andrew Dickman
These Minutes were approved by the Board/Chairman on
as presented , or as amended
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. FWC Panther Telemetry 8-22-2011
CD USFWS Additional GPS Panther Data
o USFWS GPS Data FP 188
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Panther Zones
Stan tee Consulting
3200 Bailey Lane
Suite 200
Naples, FL 34105
tel 239.649.4040
fax 239.263,6446
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