Minutes 05/11/2011
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May 11, 2011
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
HISTORICAL/ARCHAEOLOGICAL PRESERVATION BOARD
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LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Historical/
Archaeological Preservation Board in and for the County of Collier, having
conducted business herein, met on this date at 9:15 A.M. in REGULAR
SESSION at the Collier County Community Growth Management Division
- Planning and Regulation, Conference Room #610, 2800 North Horseshoe
Drive, Naples, Florida with the following members present:
Fiala
Hiller
Henning
coyle
Coletta
CHAIRMAN: Craig Woodward (excused)
VICE CHAIRMAN: William Dempsey
Pam Brown (absent)
Patricia Huff
Sharon Kenny (excused)
Elizabeth Perdichizzi
Rich Taylor (absent)
ALSO PRESENT:
Ray Bellows, Planning Manager, Zoning Services
Fred Reischl, Zoning Services
Glenda Smith, Budget Analyst
Steve Williams, Assistant County Attorney
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I. Roll CallI Attendance:
Vice-Chairman William Dempsey called the meeting to order at 9:40 A.M.
Roll Call was taken. A quorum was not present.
The items on the Agenda were taken up for discussion for informational purposes
only. No actions were taken. Summary Notes on the discussions were requested.
II. Addenda to the Agenda:
ADD: Under Old Business - Archaeologist to go to Mamie street
ADD: Under New Business - Summer schedule
ADD: Under New Business - Rock Creek
III. Approval of the Agenda
No Action Taken
IV. Approval of Minutes: March 23, 2011
No Action Taken
V. Old Business:
A. Bula Mission
Patty Huff reported on her efforts to find funding sources for the Bula Mission
project. Her list included Mayor Hamilton, who had indicated some assistance in
an earlier letter; Paul Arsenault, the artist who had portrayed various scenes of
the Mission in his paintings; the Triumph Church and New Hope Ministries, who
had an interest in the preservation. Through them, she discovered Immokalee's
Edgerrin James had a Foundation which had given 250K to the University of
Miami. He also had friends of friends of Miss Frances.
She was in the process of locating the Foundation's address to contact them for
interest in some funding.
Assistant County Attorney Steve Williams noted the family was still in the
area (children, a cousin on Marco Island and a brother, active in football).
Patty willfollow up on the information and provide an update to HAPB.
B. Interlocal Agreement Draft Document
Waiting to hear from Craig Woodward on this item
C. Corkscrew Settlement Update
Ray Bellows reported John Ban had contacted him and indicated he was not
interested in pursuing Historic Designation for the Corkscrew Settlement.
However, recognition of the Settlement and its historic significance was of
great interest to him. It was suggested adding the Corkscrew Settlement to the
Brochure/Guide and the placement of some type of historical marker on the
property would be appropriate.
Should HAPB decide to pursue the designation of individual properties they
would need to work with each owner.
Discussion on this item will continue on the next meeting's Agenda.
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VI. New Business
Addenda to the Agenda item #1 - Archeologist to go to Mamie Street
Patty Huff updated the HAPB on the activity going on in Chokoloskee around the
Smallwood Store and Mamie Street. She brought pictures and samples of particles
and pieces of materials that appeared to be from a shell mound, obtained from the
excavation site around the area of concern.
A lengthy discussion followed with background information provided by Ray
Bellows, Will Dempsey and Assistant County Attorney, Steve Williams. The
actions of the courts will be followed by the legal process already in the works.
Patty requested an independent Certified Archaeologist go to the site and conduct a
proper survey and assessment.
Ray Bellows commented the property owner must give permission to enter the
property. He stated a State Certified Archeologist, hired by the owner, will be doing
a full analysis of the excavated site. That report will come to the HAPB.
Concern was voiced by the HAPB that impartiality would be questionable and
reports would be favorable to the owner, who hired him/her.
Constraints of State Laws and County Codes on disturbing burial grounds were
discussed. State statutes, from which County Codes were derived, pertained to
burial grounds not shell mounds.
Noted was the ambivalence in the County Codes hampering the HAPB from doing
what it was supposed to do - protect and preserve the historic and archeological
sites of Collier County.
Will Dempsey cited the problem was in the Land Development Code (LDC), if an
historical source could be excavated in an area of probability just by pulling a
permit. The situation on Chokoloskee could be avoided in other areas by an
amendment to the LDC to adjust the triggering mechanism that would require
involvement of the HAPB.
Assistant County Attorney Steve Williams responded he saw little difficulty in
drafting language to accomplish HAPB' s goal without any undue burden on the
permitting process. A vote by the HAPB to recommend the change, and the BCC's
approval would be necessary.
This topic will be put on next month's Agenda
Addenda to the Agenda item #2 Summer Break
Ray Bellows requested the Board decide summer meeting schedules. He will
e-mail everyone to respond with summer schedule so meeting dates can be set.
Addenda to the Agenda item #3 Rock Creek
Will Dempsey spoke about the discovery of hundreds of pieces of pottery chunks
while kayaking along Rock Creek at low tide. After checking several of them out
with Collier County Museum personnel, he was told they were over 1,000 yrs old.
The mangroved property is City of Naples Conservation Lands. He will contact Bob
Carr's office on the findings and report at the next meeting.
VII. Public Comments: None
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VIII. Board Member Announcements
Betsy Perdichizzi requested the excavation pictures provided by Patty Huff be
carried over to next meeting to enter into the records.
The next scheduled meeting will be held on Wednesday June 8, 2011 in Room #610
Collier County Development Services Division, 2800 N. Horseshoe Drive.
NOTE: This will be the 2nd Wednesday of the month, not the 3rd Wednesday.
The meeting ended at 10:38 A.M.
HISTORICAL/ARCHAEOLOGICAL
PRESERVATION BOARD
Vice Chairman, William Dempsey
These meeting notes approved by the Board/Committee on
presented or as amended
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May 27, 2011
Michael Zimny
Certified Local Government (CLG) Coordinator
Bureau of Historic Preservation
R.A. Gray Building
500 South Bronough Street
Tallahassee, Florida 32399-0250
RE: Collier County Preservation Board Meeting
Dear Mr. Zimny:
Please be advised that a public meeting for the Collier County Historic and Archaeological
Preservation Board has been scheduled for Wednesday, June 8, 2011 and will begin at 9:15 a.m.
at the County Growth Management Division - Planning & Regulation, Conference Room 610,
located at 2800 North Horseshoe Drive, Naples Florida
I have attached the agenda and the minutes from the March 23, 2011 meeting for your
reference. There was no official meeting held in April and May due to a lack of a quorum.
If you have any questions concerning this meeting, please do not hesitate to call me. My phone
number is 239-252-2463 or you can e-mail meat:Ravbellows@colliergov.net.
Sincerely,
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Raymond V. Bellows, Planning Manager (Historic Preservation Board Liaison)
Zoning Services Section
Department of Land Development Services
cc: Preservation Board Members (7)
Ron Jamro
Bill Lorenz
Steve Williams
Ian Mitchell
Fred Reischl
Glenda Smith