CEB Minutes 07/25/1996
1996
Code
Enforcement
Board
July 25, 1996
July 25, 1996
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE
CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD
Naples, Florida, July 25, 1996
Met on this date at 8:30 a.m. in REGULAR SESSION in Building "F"
of the Government Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the following
members present:
CHAIRPERSON: Jean Rawson
Jim Allen
Charles Andrews
Louis Laforet
MEMBERS NOT PRESENT: Celia Deifik
Mireya Louviere
Richard McCormick
ALSO PRESENT: Frank Kowalski, Representing the Board
Rarniro Manalich, Assistant County Attorney
Maria E. Cruz, Code Enforcement
Linda Sullivan, Code Enforcement Director
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CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD OF COLLIER COUNTY. FLORIDA
AgEHt2A
Date: July 25, 1996 at 8:30 o'clock A.M.
Location: Collier County Government Center, Admn. Bldg, 3rd Floor
NOTE: ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL A DECISION OF THIS BOARD
WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS PERTAINING THERETO, AND
THEREFORE MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE
PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE
UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED. NEITHER COLLIER COUNTY NOR THE
CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING THIS
RECORD.
1. ROLL CALL
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
3.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
N/A
4. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. BCC vs. LELY BAREFOOT BEACH PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOC., INC., A
FLA. CORP.AND LELY BAREFOOT BEACH MASTER ASSOC., INC. A
FLA. CORP. CEB NO. 96-012
5. NEW BUSINESS
N/A
6. OLD BUSINESS
A. BCC vs. Del H. Ackerman and Jay McMillian CEB No. 95-009
Filing of Affidavit of Non-Compliance and
Request for Imposition of fines
7 . REPORTS
N/A
8.
NEXT MEETING DATE
August 22, 1996
9. ADJOURN
July 25, 1996
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: The Code Enforcement Board of
Collier County Florida will now come to order. Let's have the roll
call starting with my left.
MR. LAFORET: Lou Laforet.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Jean Rawson.
MR. ALLEN: Jim Allen.
MR. ANDREWS: Charlie Andrews.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: The attorney representing the board
today -- Bill, why don't you identify yourself for the record.
MR. KOWALSKI: Frank Kowalski from the Naples law firm
of Paulich, Slack & Wolff. Thank you, Jean.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Thank you. Mr. Kowalski and I have
had a conversation about the Code Enforcement Board rules and
regulations and have determined that Article 5 of those rules and
regulations indicate that a forum of the board shall consist of four
members, and so, unfortunately, we have three members absent today.
Two we knew about. The other 1 we didn't know about, but we do have a
forum, and so, therefore, this board will convene.
The rules go on to say that an affirmative vote of a
majority of those present and voting is necessary to pass any motion
or adopt any order. So we have a problem, because there's only four
of us, if we have a tie. Nevertheless, we are going to forge on.
We've also determined that we need a forum to bring this board to
order, which we have. And if someone has to recuse themselves for
whatever reason, we can still have a vote of a majority of the members
present.
So I apologize to the members that are here today, and I
apologize to the attorneys. We usually have a seven-person board, but
being July in Florida, you know, there are a lot of people gone. We
will do our best to conduct business as usual and render a fair and
impartial decision even though there's only four of us here. I need
now to have a motion from 1 of the board members on the approval of
the agenda.
MR. ALLEN: I make the motion.
MR. ANDREWS: Second.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: It's been moved and seconded that
we approve today's agenda. All in favor signify by saying aye.
It passes.
We don't have any minutes in our packet to approve this
time. I'm sure that's probably because they are very, very long and
probably haven't been transcribed yet since the last meeting.
Now, let's move on to the public hearing section of the
meeting today, and I'm going to ask the county which case you want to
hear first.
MS. CRUZ: Good morning, Madame Chairman. My name is
Maria Cruz, code enforcement specialist. I'd like to request that
item under -- Item 6 under old business be moved first -- be heard
first prior to the public hearing.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: The county has requested to the
members of the board that we hear Item 6(A), BCC versus Del Ackerman
and Jay McMillian, CEB No. 95-009 first. Is there any opposition from
any member of the board to moving that up on the agenda?
Not having heard so and because that would probably be
the least lengthy of the cases that this board is going to hear today,
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then we'll do so. So the first case that we'll hear then is Board of
~ounty Commissioners versus Ackerman.
MR. ALLEN: Mr. Chairman, I've got to recuse myself.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Let the record reflect that
Mr. Allen has recused himself. Mr. Murray, how are you this morning?
MR. MURRAY: Great, Miss Rawson. How are you? I
represent the Ackermans, and I'm glad to see that Mr. Allen has
recused himself, because he was ultimately involved in this both as a
former chairman of this board and also as the general contractor.
MR. ANDREWS: Could you move closer to the mike? We
can't hear you.
MR. MURRAY: How's that? Is that better? For the
record, I'm glad to see that Mr. Allen recused himself. I think we
have less than a forum at this time; is that correct?
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Well, my attorney and I have
discussed this, and I guess I'll call on him to tell you what decision
we've come to.
MR. KOWALSKI: I believe that it requires a forum of a
majority of the board being for -- being a meeting, but that if a
board me~~er recuses himself, the remainder of the panel, even though
not a forum, can proceed to hear a matter and to vote by majority rule
of those voting and present on that particular issue. The board may
want to ask Mr. Murray whether he objects to that procedure.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Mr. Murray, would you rather that
-- since there's only three of us left that we not hear this because
that's -- if you want to roll it over until -- well, I don't know
~bout next month. I don't think so. It looks like we have a full day
~ext month, but if you want to roll it over to a later meeting, we
certainly understand and would accommodate you.
MR. MURRAY: All right. Can I check with my clients to
see if they want to do that?
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Certainly. Certainly.
MR. MURRAY: Your Honor, we're ready to proceed.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Fine.
MR. MURRAY: And if I call you Your Honor, it's because
I hold you in such high esteem and, also, they can't teach old dogs
new tricks.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: That's -- that's just fine. As I
said last month this is not -- not the Supreme Court, and I -- not in
my wildest dreams. I don't think I'm the chief justice, but it's
wonderful, Mr. Murray. Thank you. We'll call on the county first.
MR. MANALICH: Madam Chairman, I have a point I just
want to bring to the attention of all parties -- Mr. Kowalski as well
as Mr. Murray and any other interested parties, and that will include
Mr. Gebhardt who's here today and wants to be heard. Ninety--
Ordinance 92-80 at paragraph 7 does mention that for purposes of
fact-finding the finding shall be by motion approved by majority of
those members present and voting except that at least four members of
the board must vote in order for the action to be official. Now, I
just -- I don't know if that had been considered by everyone involved
here, but, obviously, I don't want to go through a fruitless exercise
if the same concerns that I have noted are shared by the rest.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Now, is it your opinion that we can
waive that rule by agreement?
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MR. MANALICH: Give me just a moment, please.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Sure. Ramiro, would you give us
the cite again.
MR. MANALICH: Ordinance citing 2-80. I show it on page
7 of the ordinance. Now, the alternative that I just consulted Miss
Sullivan with could be if we wanted to go forward and take whatever
evidence is going to be received today. We would need another member,
obviously, to vote, but I suppose that member could review the
transcript of the evidence and then vote at that time. It's a little
more cumbersome.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Mr. Murray, it's up to you.
Basically, I think we need four members here to vote.
MR. MURRAY: The only thing that I would like to record
would be the testimony of an individual who's given his time to be
here, and then we can record that. And then I'd prefer to have people
give testimony so that they can judge their credibility when, in fact,
the voting members are here that are going to see it, evaluate it, and
then decide.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Understood.
MR. MURRAY: Mr. Schwartz has been kind enough to take
time out to come here and to give his testimony. It's short
testimony. I would like to record it so that he would not have to
come back again. He is doing us a favor by doing this.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Let me ask the county attorney.
How do you wish to proceed? Mr. Murray would like the witness
that's
present here today in the commission chambers to give his testimony,
at which time, of course, you'd have the opportunity to cross-examine
him, record that on the record, use that transcript so he won't have
to return next time, and continue the hearing until whenever you --
Maria and Linda tell me, probably September.
MR. MANALICH: Yeah. It would appear to me that, I
guess -- if you could do that today, I mean, I -- do you have any
objections to that? I mean, I don't have any objection to that if
that'll take care of that particular witness.
MR. MURRAY: Let me check with the witness. If he can
come back, we'll just have everybody come back, just make it clear at
that time.
MR. McMILLIAN: I'm going to object to that also. I'm
Jay McMillian. If his testimony's recorded, then I'd like the
testimony of these pictures be shown to the board today and my
testimony be recorded today.
MR. MANALICH: Madam Chairman and Mr. Kowalski, it
appears to me, as I look at the ordinance, that the word "shall" is
used, and to me that indicates that there has to be four to vote.
Now, I don't know, Mr. Kowalski, if you share that opinion or not. I
just raise that because I don't want to go through a fruitless
exercise. If that's the case, you know, we may -- you know, Madam
Chairman, even though in August we do have a full day, I would suggest
that today's going to be a full day with the Lely matter, I expect.
If we have the other matter that is scheduled in August, we might be
able to take this up prior to that hearing that morning is the
alternative that I see.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: August 22nd is the next date we are
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set to have a rather full day -- hearing because it involves the
Pacific Land Company case. But we are willing to hear this matter
first at 8:30 if that would work.
MR. MURRAY: Again, Miss Chairman, we're willing to
waive. Certainly, we'll come back and do that if you say so.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Well, let me ask you this. Would
you prefer -- and I should ask your witness who has come today. Would
you prefer August 22nd, or would you prefer the September date, which
would be the fourth Thursday?
MR. MURRAY: He has no idea. Whatever is best for the
board.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Well, again, I apologize to you and
to you, Mr. McMillian, that we don't have a full board here today.
Hopefully, we will in August. The chances are pretty good that we
will in August, so why don't we just continue your matter to be heard
in full on August the 22nd. We'll take your matter up first at 8:30.
MR. MANALICH: Madam Chairman, the only other request I
have is that everyone concerned could stipulate here today that that
will be sufficient notice to everyone to appear on the 22nd to hear
this matter involving the imposition of fines without the necessity of
further communication.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Is that a problem, Mr. Murray --
MR. MURRAY: That's not a problem.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: so that the county won't have to
give you notice again? Is that okay with you, Mr. McMillian?
MR. McMILLIAN: Yes, ma'am.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: So the record reflects then we have
a stipulation that everybody waived the formal notice that's required
under the ordinance and that this matter will be continued to be heard
at 8:30 on August the 22nd, 1996. Thank you.
MR. MURRAY: Thank you.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Now, let me ask the county
attorney, probably Mr. Bryant now, to call the next case.
MR. BRYANT: May it please the board. We're here in the
matter of Collier County versus Lely Barefoot Beach Property Owners
Association. Let me have one moment. It's styled the Board of County
Commissioners, Collier County, Florida, petitioner, versus Lely
Barefoot Beach Property Owners Association, Inc., a Florida
corporation, and Lely Barefoot Beach Master Association, Inc., a
Florida corporation, and CEB No. 96-012, Madam Chairman.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Thank you, Mr. Bryant. Before we
get started this morning with the county's presentation, let me have
the learned counsel that are seated in front of me identify themselves
for the record.
MR. HAZZARD: Madam Chairman, I'm Bill Hazzard from the
law firm of Cummings and Lockwood. Mr. Larry Pires is with me as well
from Cummings and Lockwood. We expect to be joined later in the day
by Cathy Reiman.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Thank you. Well, let's start with
the county's case then.
MR. BRYANT: Thank you, Madam Chairman.
MR. HAZZARD: Madam Chairman, my understanding is that
we need to state on the record that we want this hearing to be
transcribed and so --
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CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: It is being transcribed. We
transcribe them all now, Mr. Hazzard, but I appreciate your concern.
MR. BRYANT: May it please the board. I would like --
since we're going to probably be here, I would guesstimate, most of
the day, and some of the witnesses are going to take some extended
time and probably need some area to lay documents out -- and I talked
to Mr. Hazzard about this. I would suggest that we have the witnesses
sit here, and that way they can use the mike and have the table to be
able to utilize -- you know, and spread things out.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: If you and Mr. Hazzard agree to
that, I certainly -- the board has no objection.
MR. BRYANT: Thank you. At this time the county would
call Rick Ewing, Madam Chairman.
MR. HAZZARD: Madam -- Madam Chairman, just for a point
of order, do we make opening statements first, or are we going to go
right in with witnesses?
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Well, I think it's probably a good
idea for the board's benefit if each of you would give us an opening
statement so that we know what the issues are.
MR. BRYANT: Okay. Thank you, Madam Chairman. May it
please the board. I'm David Bryant. I represent Collier County. The
matter before you today is 1 that has been before Collier County for a
number of years. I submit to the board that I'm sure you've read a
lot of the accounts of this. The issue is the Lely Barefoot Beach
guardhouse and whether or not the new guardhouse that sits right at
the entrance into Lely Barefoot Beach development in the middle of the
road is properly situated; whether or not it is in the tract of land
it's supposed to be; whether or not it is within the PUD, the planned
unit development, for Lely Barefoot Beach as approved by the Board of
County Commissioners.
It's the county's position -- and I'm sure that the
board is well aware of what a PUD is. You know that a planned unit
development is basically an agreement between the contractor and the
county. It's an agreement that the contractor -- or the developer
says, If you will let me develop this project in a particular way, I
will do this; and the county says, We will let you do that, and we
will give you this -- we will give you this planned unit development
designation. We will give you, maybe, density considerations,
development strategies, phase your project.
Anyway, it's the county's position this is a contract
between the county and the developer. The county maintains that the
Lely Barefoot Beach guardhouse as it sits today -- and we're talking
about the new guardhouse, not the old guardhouse. And you'll hear
throughout the day the old guardhouse versus the new guardhouse.
The
new guardhouse is the 1 that sits up at the front that's a
free-standing building, as I said, sits right in the middle of the
road. It's the county's position that it was built there improperly;
that it was not properly permitted to be there; that the permit as
drawn from the county by the builder of the building for the developer
was a permit that was erroneous. It misled the county. It was not
truthful in the application. It should never have been given to the
developer as it was. But it was and was built; however, it's the
county's position and the case law in Florida, I would submit to
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you, says that a county cannot -- or a local government cannot be
required to violate it's own ordinances, the ordinances being those
that apply to building development, and that the granting of that
permit is not a prohibition to the county, once it finds that the
permit was granted wrongfully, to require the correction of it.
But the majority of the testimony you're going to hear
today is going to deal with what is a planned unit development, what
is the legal requirement of that, and what are the requirements in the
Lely PUD as far as where a guardhouse may be located. And it's the
county's position that, 1, the Lely Barefoot Beach guardhouse is
outside the PUD. It is not within the planned unit development for
Lely as agreed to by ordinance by the developer with the county. And,
two, that the guardhouse was improperly built and that the permit was
not proper as it was drawn by the developer. Thank you.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Thank you. Mr. Hazzard.
MR. HAZZARD: Thank you, Madam Chairman, members of the
board. I have to confess to you that I almost didn't come today, and
the reason I almost didn't come today was that I had quite a surprise
Tuesday morning when I opened my Naples Daily News and there was an
article that told me I'm dead on arrival here today. It says,
"Although the Code Enforcement officials are expected to uphold
commissioners' desire to remove the guardhouse" -- are you folks aware
that you're expected to do that today?
And then later on it says, "The outcome of the Code
Enforcement hearing could end the case if Code Enforcement decides to
side with Lely residents.
More likely, they will agree with commissioners and
order the structure removed."
Well, I hope that's not more likely as of last Tuesday.
So I almost didn't come. But then I got to thinking about what my own
experience has been with the Naples Daily News, and my experience is
that they get about half the story right. The reason that I know that
is that when I read a story in the Naples Daily News that contains
information that I'm familiar with, I go through and I say, Yeah, they
got that right. Yeah, that's right, that's wrong. And so I figure
they're about 50 percent. The thing that concerns me is when I read a
story that I don't know anything about, I know that's about 50 percent
right, too. But I just can't tell which 50 percent is the right 50
percent and which is the wrong 50 percent.
So I hope if you've been reading the Naples Daily News
about the Lely Barefoot Beach guardhouse that you'll wonder which 50
percent you read is right and which 50 percent you read is wrong. I
hope that you will rely on the facts that you hear today to make your
determination. I don't want to think that I'm dead on arrival.
So I applied my reasoning and my experience with the
Naples Daily News, and I decided that I would come today. And here
are the facts you're going to learn about. First, Lely Beach
Boulevard, the entry way into the Barefoot Beach subdivision, is a
private road. There's not a nickel of tax money to build it. There's
not a nickel of tax money to maintain it. It's owned by the
homeowners association, used to be owned by the developer. There's
been a guardhouse sitting in the middle of that road in the median
strip since it was built, almost 20 years there's been a guardhouse.
Mr. Bryant referenced the old one and the new one. For the first ten
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years or so, there was a guardhouse. down the road, and I might show
you a picture. This is what I'm talking about. You can see this
picture says existing guardhouse and new guardhouse, and you'll hear
more about this document later as the day goes on. But here's Bonita
Beach. Road. This is the old guardhouse. This is the new guardhouse.
So there's been a guardhouse in the middle of the road for almost 20
years.
And the other thing you need to know, this road comes
winding through this private subdivision and at the end of the road, a
couple miles down the road, there's a county park. A county park
encompasses a piece of state land and a piece of county land, hundreds
of acres. The state-owned land is at the very, very end. It's down
by Wiggin's Pass and that's been owned by the state for quite some
time. The state purchased that land and at the time they did, it was
unreachable. You couldn't get there. There was an easement that the
state had that went across what's now the Lely Barefoot Beach
subdivision. That easement was impassable. It was wet. You go
through the water. You go through marshes, sensitive environmental
lands. You could never build a road there.
So when Lely Development Company started putting their
development in, they did some swaps with the State of Florida over the
easement and the State of Florida wound up with an easement to use
this road. Of course, the State of Florida also agreed, you'll learn
today, that that road could be gated because the State of Florida at
the time the easement was granted regarded that piece of road -- that
piece of land to the south as a very special place. It was
preserve-type area. It was sensitive environmental-type area. Hardly
anybody would ever get -- get to go down there. It was just kind of
in the land bank. So Lely Development Company agreed to build the
road that's now Lely Beach Boulevard.
Now, I need to stress to you at this point I don't
represent Lely Development Company. They're long gone. I represent
the homeowners who live at Lely Barefoot Beach, the folks who paid
money to buy the houses and live out there. I'm not paid by Lely
Development Company. Lely Development Company gave the State of
Florida right to use that road if they ever would need to use it and
called it easement. I'm sure you folks are familiar with easements.
And the State Department of Natural Resources agreed with Lely
Development Company that the gates across the road that everyone knew
were going to be there could stay closed until such time as the state
might open that land, which was not expected, and then the rule was
the agreement was that when the state land is opened, the gates open.
When the state land is closed, the gates can be closed and the
residents can regulate traffic into the subdivision.
The thing you need to understand about an easement,
about this particular easement, is it's not an exclusive right to use
the road. It doesn't mean the state can use it and nobody else.
We're sharing it. It's a simple concept that we all learn when we're
kids. Let's share the road. If you ever need it, you need it. Go
ahead. Use it to get down to your piece of land.
Now, when Lely started putting that subdivision together
-- and it's a planned unit development -- they built the guardhouse
in a location a few hundred yards south of where it is today. State
land was closed. Everybody was happy. Things were moving smoothly.
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You couldn't even take the road all the way to the state land at that
time. The road just went through the beginning stages of the
subdivision, then there were a mile or so of undeveloped land, no
road.
In 1985, you'll learn today, the County Commission
adopted a revised PUD ordinance for the Barefoot Beach subdivision.
Land was still closed down at the end, the state land. The revised
PUD ordinance has some very important language in it that you're going
to read today.
There's a section that describes the gatehouse complex
site. Now, the gatehouse complex site is in ~omething called tract
A. Tract A is on the side of the road that's coming -- this winding
road. The gatehouse complex site envisioned some buildings -- it's
more than one building it talks about facilities, plural, in the
gatehouse complex site. The section of the ordinance adopted in 1985
that says -- describes the setbacks, it says from Lely Beach
Boulevard, no setback. Then it says portions of the security
gatehouse facility may extend into and over Lely Beach Boulevard
right-of-way.
Now, the thing you need to understand is the time the
County Commission adopted that ordinance there was a guardhouse
standing alone in the middle of Lely Beach Boulevard. Portions of the
security gatehouse facility can extend into and over Lely Beach
Boulevard means it's okay to be there. It had been there for seven
years or so when the County Commission adopted the ordinance. It was
there when they adopted it. Everybody could see it. Everybody knew
that's what that meant. That was a portion of the security gatehouse
facility extending into and over the Lely Beach Boulevard
right-of-way.
Well, that was 1985. Things were fine. Everybody's
happy, still can't get to the state land down at the south. In 1987
Lely Development wanted to sell a piece of land that it owned
immediately north of the state-owned land. There was some talk about
who might buy it. Maybe Audobon Country Club, which is kind of to the
east, would buy it to have some sort of access to the beach through
there, who knows. But a likely candidate to buy it turned out to be
Collier County.
So in June of 1987 Collier County and Lely Development
entered into an option agreement, an option to buy the land. We'll
give you 50,000 now for the option to buy it for 3 million later.
You're going to see this option agreement today, and it. contains some
real specific language, because Lely Development was now getting
worried about how big is all this land down at the south end of our
development going to be because that might be a nice idea, nice place
to go and all that. It was environmentally-sensitive land that the
state was going to own. Okay, maybe not too many folks are going down
there. Now, they're going to sell a chunk of this land to Collier
County. And so in the option agreement that Collier County signed,
voted on I believe it was five, nothing by the Collier County
Commission as it was constituted in 1987, they included language that
says -- and you'll read today -- here's how we're going to run things
after we buy this piece of land for a county park. If we buy it. If
we take the option, and here's how Collier County said they would run
things.
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They said we agree to limit the number of parking spaces
that are going to be at that park. We agree to limit the number of
vehicles accessing the park to the number of parking spaces that we
have. And we agree that when the parking lot is full, access to the
subdivision will be closed at the intersection of Bonita Beach Road
and the entrance to the subdivision, Lely Beach Boulevard. So in
other words, when there's no more cars in the parking lot -- I mean,
when there's no more spaces in the parking lot, the parking lot's
filled up, close the road.
And then the agreement says and when spaces become
available open the road, send some more folks down. It makes a whole
lot of sense. I think of it like this when I -- when I get up this
morning, when I poured my orange juice into my glass, I quit pouring
when the glass got to the top. If I had kept pouring and orange juice
would have spilled allover the place, there'd be a lawyer with orange
juice on his shoes standing in front of you today, and I'd look
stupid. And it was stupid then and it's stupid now to have folks keep
driving down that road even though there's people in the parking lot
and they can't park a car there. Then they got to turn around and
come back up. Did I mention that's a two-mile drive? Well, that's a
heck of a thing. So four miles round-trip. So the county in it's
infinite wisdom and Lely in it's infinite wisdom said here's how we're
going to fix this, close the road when the parking lot's full. Good
idea. That was June of 1987. That was the deal.
In November of 1987 the county exercised it's option.
They paid Lely the 3 million bucks and they bought the park land. The
option agreement had a clause in it that said, by the way if we do buy
this, all this stuff we're signing up to do, we'll sign another
agreement at the closing called a use access agreement that will
contain all these same terms. We'll solidify this deal. And they not
only did that, but in the option agreement they also have a clause
that says the terms of this option agreement will survive the closing.
And I know an attorney like Miss Rawson knows what that means.
That's in there because when a sale of real estate takes place
typically you get a deed when you're the buyer. And the deed gives
you what the deed gives you. And there's no saying after you get the
deed, oh, wait a minute, wait a minute, the deal was something else,
too. You know, it also told us this, that, and the other thing.
Typically when you buy real estate once you get the deed that's what
you get. But importantly in this option agreement it said, one, we'll
sign a second contract at the closing; and, two, the terms of this
agreement will survive the closing. So the county bought the land in
November of 1987 and the Collier County Commission -- the Chair of the
Commission signed this use access agreement. And the use access
agreement contains the very same language that the option agreement
contained, that language that keeps me from getting orange juice on my
shoes, that language that keeps cars from streaming down the road even
though there's no place to park. When the parking lot is full, access
to the subdivision will be closed at the entrance of Bonita Beach Road
right up at the front. Well, that was 1987.
Now, there was just one problem. That deal was set.
Closing happened in November of '87, but the guardhouse in November of
'87 was not up at the entrance to the subdivision by Bonita Beach
Road. Remember the picture that I showed you? Here's the old
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guardhouse. Here's Bonita Beach Road. It's up here. Lely needed to
move the guardhouse up the road in order to implement the contracts,
two, that Collier County had signed when it bought it's land. So they
got to working on a plan, and they submitted it. They applied for a
building permit.
Oh, one thing. Another reason why they needed to move
it north on the road is that where it was presently located the road
was narrow and there was a building right up against it. You couldn't
turn a car around there, but north on the road the road was wider, and
you could turn around if the parking lot was full. So Lely applied
for a building permit. You'll hear testimony today that there was a
lot of back and forth with Collier County building officials about
exactly where the guardhouse was going to be located. They applied
for the building permit in early March of '88, and the permit wasn't
issued until April of '88. So there was about a month of stuff going
on in the mystery of the county things that they do. But the county
issued the building permit for the guardhouse in April of '88. And
then construction went on, and in June of '88 after multiple
inspections, one of which you'll see today, says zoning inspection
passed. After these multiple inspections Collier County issued a
certificate of occupancy for the guardhouse June 1988, June the 14th.
And things still went along swimmingly because the road still didn't
go all the way to the county's land, and the county then needed to
develop park facilities and things like that.
So there's still not a whole lot of folks using the road
to go down because you can't get all the way to the what are now the
public facilities. But everybody knew that the county was going to
run a park there. And in 1990 the county was ready to open it's
park. We're now talking about two years after the guardhouse had been
sitting in it's present location. The county, as the county will,
opened the park with great fanfare, invited the dignitaries. Out goes
the mailing to everybody. I happen to have it. Collier County Parks
and Recreation Department division of public services extends an
invitation to the dedication and ribbon cutting ceremony of the
Barefoot Beach Preserve phase one Monday June 25, 1990, 10 a.m.,
Barefoot Beach Preserve, Lely Beach Boulevard, one mile south of the
guardhouse, RSVP, et cetera.
Here's some directions that are attached. Go west on
Bonita Beach Road until you see the Gulf. On your left there's a new
home development and a parking entrance to Lely Barefoot Beach. Turn
left at this point and continue forward to the guardhouse. Stop at
the guardhouse and identify yourself as attending the Barefoot Beach
Preserve dedication. Continue approximately two miles on Lely Beach
Boulevard and you'll see parking facilities. Stop at the guardhouse.
Collier County not only agreed to this deal, issued a permit for it,
issued a certificate of occupancy for it, they used it. They told
people go use this thing. By the way there are some notations out in
the county manager's office. They had 50 lemons, 75 fruit cups,
sugar, Sweet & Low, napkins were white, spoons were beige, Catering
with Class, $100. Man, this was a big deal -- and stop at the
guardhouse. Collier County telling people, 1990.
Now, I got to tell you. There's some growing pains that
went on. Now we got a new deal. Now we got a park open. Now we got
to stop people when the parking lot's full, things going back and
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forth. For a couple of years they tried window placards. Okay, let's
number all the spaces. We'll give everybody a placard with a number
on it when they go in, and then when they come out drop it off, and
then we know we can send somebody else down. They tried radio
contact. Park ranger calls up, you know, send more people down. And
some folks got their noses bent out of shape. And I don't know what
Mr. Bryant has planned, but I'll tell you right now you may hear some
people say the guard was mean to me, this was awful, that was awful,
what have you. Yesterday's news. Growing pains.
So things are going from 1990 or so forward. And
somebody, I don't know who, in the county got this idea -- why don't
we lease that piece of land to the south from the State of Florida.
Let's lease it. So in 1992 they did. County leased the state's land.
And the county plans to run the park, and the county's running the
park. It's a county park with a 40-year lease on the state land and
with the land that the county itself owns.
Well, part of the deal when you lease -- when the county
chose to lease that state land, they had to present to the State of
Florida a land management plan. Well, in 1993 the county sent up its
land management plan and it said, oh, you know, we have this deal with
the residents of the subdivision we got to buy -- buy, you know, we're
gonna close access to the park up at the entrance and that kind of
thing. The State of Florida said, no, forget it. Just control
entrance access at the entrance to the park land down on the south.
Now, Collier County instead of living up to it's deal in
the option agreement and the use access agreement that said, yeah,
we'll close it up at Bonita Beach Road -- instead of doing that the
county said let's count the votes. If we have more people that would
rather use the big expanded park with leasing the land from the State
of Florida, then we got residents in the Barefoot Beach subdivision.
Screw 'em literally. Cast it aside. Forget the use access
agreement. Forget the option agreement. County told the State of
Florida, yeah, that's what we'll do and county quit closing the road
at the entrance to the subdivision. Now, how do you like that? Where
does the government -- Collier County officials get off doing that?
So what happens? That's 1992.
1993 the actual land management plan was adopted. My
clients, the residents of the Barefoot Beach subdivision, then spent
some time trying to work it out with the county. Hey, wait a minute.
What about this deal? Come on, look what we were promised. Trying to
work things out -- trying to work things out through 1994. Finally
somebody makes the magic statement to the county. We're going to sue
you. If you don't do it, we're going to sue you. And the end -- fall
time frame of 1994. Well, coincidentally if you look on your notice
of violation, right around that same time, October the 19th of 1994,
code enforcement investigator Dennis Mazzone determined that the
guardhouse at the entrance to Lely Barefoot Beach violated county
ordinances. Golly, that same guardhouse which said stop at and check
in when you're going to ribbon ceremony? That same guardhouse that
got put there in that spot so that we could implement the county's
obligations? You know, I can't prove it, but I just think it's an
amazing coincidence that the code enforcement officer made that
determination right around the time my clients were starting to tell
Collier County, you know, we're going to have to sue you. So one of
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the mysteries that will be explained today is how it happened that the
code enforcement investigator determined on October the 19th, 1994,
that there was a violation and how it came to be that the notice of
the violation was not given to my clients until February the 7th of
1996, 16 full months. In November of 1994, they determined -- I'm
sorry -- October of '94 they determined the violation.
In January of '95 my clients sued Collier County. It's
a lawsuit that's pending in the building across the way in the circuit
court. We want to enforce the use access agreement and the option
agreement and the terms of the deal. Now, that's not in front of you
today. We're not here asking you to enforce the terms of that deal.
We're here asking you to see what's going on here to see what it is
the county's trying to do. It's a squeeze play. The only reason this
thing is in front of the Code Enforcement Board is to put the squeeze
on the court case. What if we can get them to order to take the thing
down? We'll win the court case. There's no way to implement the use
access agreement and the option agreement terms. Brilliant. So after
all those years, after all those times the county had used the
guardhouse to implement the terms of the agreement, the county sold
out my clients. Decided we'd rather have a bigger park. Sorry,
fellows. You want to sue us, sue us.
Well, you know what? A lot of neighborhoods around here
can't fight city hall. A lot of neighborhoods don't have the scratch,
don't have the dollars. Lely Barefoot Beach residents do have it, and
they're fighting, and they're over in the courthouse across the way,
and that's where this case ought to be fought, not here in front of
you all today. Don't let yourselves be used by Collier County to gain
an unfair advantage in the court case that's going on across the way.
Now, you know from looking at the notice of violation
that the code enforcement investigator determined in October of '94
that there was a violation, and you know from looking at it that the
notice was issued in February of '96. With 16 months to work on it,
you should expect the notice of violation in this case to be a model
of clarity, a fine piece of work. You should expect it to be the
standard by which you're going to judge all future notices of
violation. And you're going to be disappointed, because the notice of
violation when you read it, the thing you're supposed to decide about
today doesn't say word one about the guardhouse is built outside the
PUD zoning for Lely Barefoot Beach. That's what Mr. Bryant said he's
going to prove today. Well, I don't know why he's going to prove that
to you today because that's not what the notice of violation says
we're here about. Not only is the county doing all these nasty things
to my clients over the years, they're still making it up as they go
along. You can read that notice of violation from here to next week,
and it doesn't say anywhere the things built on land that's not zoned
PUD, and we're going to learn that today.
Well, you might be disappointed with the notice of
violation that you get, and I hope come tomorrow morning there's one
other entity in town that's disappointed. I hope it's the Naples
Daily News. I hope they got to turn around and write, Golly, where'd
we get off saying that these folks are going to side with
commissioners and order the structure removed? How dare they say that
that's what you're going to do on Tuesday when you're not even hearing
about this case until Thursday? When you're done at the end of the
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day today, after all those things that the county has done to my
clients, you're not going to vote to knock this thing down. You're
going to understand what's really going on here, and don't let
yourselves be used to circumvent what's going on in the court case.
Let everybody fight it out in court. At the end of the day today, I
want you folks four, nothing to vote to quash this notice of
violation, send them back packing, whatever you have to do. Thank
you.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Thank you. County, you may
continue with your case.
MR. BRYANT: Thank you, Madam Chairman. At this time
the county would call Rick Ewing, Madam Chairman.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Mr. Ewing, would you please state
your name for the record, and we'll have the court reporter swear you
in.
And are you
surveyor?
That's correct.
MR. BRYANT: Madam Chairman,
Mr. Ewing as a expert in the area
MR. EWING: Richard J. Ewing.
THEREUPON,
RICHARD J. EWING,
a witness, having been first duly sworn, upon his oath, testified as
follows:
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. BRYANT:
Q. State your name, please, sir.
A. Richard J. Ewing.
Q. And what's your business address, Mr. Ewing?
A. 3106 South Horseshoe Drive.
Q. And how are you employed, sir?
A. I'm employed as the principal land surveyor for Coastal
Engineering.
Q. What is a land surveyor, Mr. Ewing, please?
A. A land surveyor is a surveyor that is licensed to -- to
layout land and --
MR. LAFORET: Would you speak into the microphone,
please.
THE WITNESS: I'm sorry.
A. A licensed surveyor does various kinds of surveys. We
do boundary surveys. In this case, we did a survey of the guardhouse
to provide the actual location in relation to the PUD and the platted
subdivision of Lely Barefoot Beach, Unit 1.
Q. Mr. Ewing, how long have you been doing surveying, sir?
A. Approximately 14 years.
Q. And what's your educational background?
A. I have -- I went to school at the University of South
Alabama, and I do have a high school diploma.
Q. And have you taken an examination in Florida to be
licensed by the Department of Business and Professional Regulation as
a surveyor?
A. Yes, I took the exam to become a surveyor, yes, and
passed.
Q.
land
A.
licensed in Florida as a public -- or as a
at this time I'd offer
of land survey.
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CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Is there an objection?
MR. HAZZARD: None.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Hearing no objection then you are
qualified as an expert.
MR. BRYANT: Thank you, Madam Chairman.
BY MR. BRYANT:
Q. Mr. Ewing, would you please tell the board,
specifically, what did your crew do when it went out and surveyed the
guardhouse at Lely Barefoot Beach. And if you need to refer to your
drawings, please do that.
A. Yes. This drawing -- can you hear me? There we go.
This drawing --
MR. BRYANT: If I could have one moment, Madam
Chairman. I think there is a mike that we can move around here.
THE WITNESS: Thanks.
BY MR. BRYANT:
Q. All right, Mr. Ewing. If you would please tell the
board what your crew did when it went out to survey Lely Barefoot
Beach guardhouse in the entrance there.
A. What we did was -- the scope of our services included
locating the guardhouse itself that you see here. We did do a
detailed location of it and all the improvements that existed within
the -- within the right-of-way of Lely Beach Boulevard in order to
show a kind of a -- an exhibit here what is actually constructed out
here. We tied in the guardhouse to existing control that we found on
the right-of-way --
Q. Let me interrupt you for a moment. What does "tie in"
mean for the purposes of -- of the board and for their information?
A. Just actually measuring angle and distance to the
corners of the guardhouse and then measuring around, and just
measuring all the improvements as you see here. They set up on the
main controller two permanent control points shown on the center line
of Lely Beach, then we tied in other monumentation that was found to
accurately plot the right-of-way and it's relation to tract A, which
is the platted line for Lely Barefoot Beach, unit 1. We tried to
locate as many -- many monuments as we could.
Q. Did you determine how far the guardhouse we're
talking about the guardhouse up front, the new guardhouse, if you
would -- is from Lely -- or from Bonita Beach Road?
A. That's correct. It's the distance of 252.1 feet from
the edge of the pavement to the closest corner of the guardhouse.
Q. And did you determine how far the guardhouse was from
the old guardhouse in tract A?
A. Yes. It's -- my understanding is is that the old
guardhouse was located in the -- what you see here is the landscaped
median. I don't have an exact distance on there, but it would be --
it's a couple hundred -- it's a couple hundred feet. We could put a
scale on it and get an exact distance.
Q. Closer to Bonita Beach Road?
A. That's correct, yes. This -- the new guardhouse is a
couple hundred feet closer to Bonita Beach Road, yes.
Q. Do you have an opinion within the bounds of reasonable
planning -- or reasonable surveying certainty that that drawing that
you've been referred to is a true and accurate description of the
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survey done at Lely Barefoot Beach Boulevard entrance?
A. Yes.
Q. And is it?
A. Yes.
MR. BRYANT: May it please the board. At this time,
Madam Chairman, I don't know how you'd like to do this, but I'd like
this marked as county Exhibit 1 and move it into evidence without
objection.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: If you would have the court
reporter mark the exhibit for you, and then I'll ask if there's any
objection to this being introduced into evidence.
MR. HAZZARD: No, there's not, Madam Chairman; however,
my understanding of the rules that apply here is quite a bit less
free-wheeling then in a court of law, but we try to observe due
process, but that the rules of evidence don't apply, and, quite
frankly, it's fine with me if we put the exhibits in without having to
move them formally and things like.
MR. BRYANT: I think it would be more appropriate if we
do move them, Madam Chairman, for purposes of the record.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Mr. Hazzard, that's true the rules
of evidence are somewhat relaxed here but it's been our practice to
always make a formal motion to move things into evidence, and we are
always cognizant especially in important cases like this to protect
the record.
MR. HAZZARD: Any way -- any way the chair wants to do
it is fine with me.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Hearing no objection that will be
introduced into evidence as the county's Exhibit No.1.
(Plaintiff's Exhibit No.1 was marked for
identification.)
BY MR. BRYANT:
Q. Mr. Ewing, are you familiar with the plat for Lely
Barefoot Beach, unit I?
A. Yes, I am.
Q. And from your review of that plat, what is the
designation of the roadway system on that plat?
A. On Lely Barefoot Beach, unit 1, it is designated as
tract R and is included in the -- in the -- in the plat.
Q. The area that you've been referring to where the
guardhouse is, is that situated in tract R?
A. That's correct.
Q. And does tract R run all the way up to Bonita Beach
Road?
A. That's correct.
Q. Do you know how far south it runs down Lely Beach
Boulevard?
A. I don't have an exact distance, but I know that it runs
through a series of -- you know, you have the -- they don't show it
here. Well, on this exhibit here you have side street Anguilla and
there's a series of side streets that come off of Lely Beach
Boulevard, and it ends somewhere there, and then another platted
subdivision picks up.
Q. SO it's your testimony that tract R runs down past and
would be off the board which is marked as in evidence as Exhibit I?
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A. That's correct.
Q. Did you also as part of your scope of work review the
legal description for the PUD for Lely Barefoot Beach?
A. That's correct.
Q. I'd ask you to look at Ordinance 77-48, sir, and ask you
if you are familiar with that and the legal description that has been
tagged in it.
A. Let's see. That's correct.
Q. Would you please tell the board what that legal
description refers to, and if you need to -- taking exhibit -- which I
would at this time have marked as -- for identification purposes as
Exhibit 2.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: We probably should have the court
reporter go ahead and mark that as county's Exhibit No.2, and I'll
ask the same question of counsel if he has any objection to the
introduction in evidence of that exhibit.
MR. HAZZARD: None.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Having heard none we will also
introduce that into evidence as the county's Exhibit No.2. So I'll
stop talking now so the court reporter can mark the exhibit.
MR. BRYANT: Thank you, Madam Chairman.
(Plaintiff's Exhibit No.2 was marked for
identification.)
BY MR. BRYANT:
Q. Mr. Ewing, if you would, please, describe for the board
members the actual legal description of the Lely Barefoot Beach PUD
development, sir.
A. The legal description -- I'll just go ahead and read it
here. "The subject property abuts the Gulf of Mexico on the west and
the inland tidal waters of the state on the east. It extends in a
north-south direction for approximately two miles and lies very near
the northern Collier County line." The precise legal description is
as follows: "All land lying in sections -- Section 5, Section 6,
Section 7, and Section 8, township 48 south, range 25 east, Collier
County, Florida; lying west of the agreed upon boundary line as
described and recorded in O.R. book 68, pages 235 through 250
inclusive, in the public records of Collier County; less and except
the following described parcel."
Q. If you would stop right there and point out to the board
what the gross area you just read before you less out that section,
and if you would tell the board when it says lessing something out of
a legal description what that means from a surveying standpoint.
A. The -- this is a -- what they mention here sections 5,
6, and 7, of course, is the entire property that runs all the way to
the county what is the difference between the county and the state
line at the park. All that -- there's an agreed property line that
they referred to which is recorded in O.R. book 68, 235, 250.
The property is -- let's see here. It's bounded on
you know, it says abuts the Gulf of Mexico and the tidal waters of the
state to the east, which is, you know, on the other side of the of
the -- what's now Lely Beach Boulevard, and it's lessing out this
description which I've outlaid here, which begins at the northeast
corner of the section which is on the center line of Bonita Beach Road
(indicating) .
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Q. If you would point out to the board the area that is
actually taken out of the Lely Barefoot Beach PUD.
A. The description starts here at the corner and runs along
the section line (indicating).
Q. You're referring to what would be the northwest or
the northeast corner?
A. Yes, the northeast corner of Section 6 and then you
would run west along the section line for 33-96-61 to a -- it refers
to a GAC monument.
Q. What's a GAC monument?
A. GAC monuments are old control monuments that are
referred to on unit 1 of the plat. Unfortunately, a lot of these
monuments aren't still in at this time, but they are referenced in a
lot of legal descriptions, and it is referenced on the Lely Barefoot
Beach unit 1 plat.
Q. And then where does the line run, Mr. Ewing?
A. It continues to the mean high water line of the Gulf of
Mexico, and it runs in a southeasterly direction to a line that
intersects a bearing off of what's now Anguilla Lane and that's this
tie right here. It's kind of confusing the way they describe this
part, but they reference this point from the monument. They did
reference it from the GAC monument that's a direct tie, and then it
runs to the approximate -- you know, to Anguilla Lane and then along
the boundary of Anguilla Lane along tract A -- which is tract A of
unit 1. And then it goes across -- across Lely Beach Boulevard to a
line that's 50 feet seaward of the mean high water line and runs along
the mean high water line. It just gives a northerly and easterly
direction to intersect the east line of Section 6 and then northerly
along the section line to the point of beginning to close the legal
description.
Q. SO is it your opinion within the bounds of reasonable
surveying certainty that that area is not part of the Lely Beach PUD?
A. That's -- that's correct.
Q. Okay. I'd ask you also, Mr. Ewing, to look at Ordinance
85-83.
MR. BRYANT: At this time, Madam Chairman, I would ask
that Ordinance 77-48 be marked and admitted into evidence without
objection as county's Exhibit 3 and also that Ordinance 85-83 be
marked and entered into -- in evidence without objection as county's
4 .
MR. HAZZARD: No objection.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Hearing no objection we'll
introduce them both. Ordinance 77-48 as county's Exhibit 3 and 85-83
as county's Exhibit 4. And I'll ask the court reporter to please mark
those.
MR. LAFORET: Counselor, would it be possible to raise
MR. BRYANT: I think you might want to wait.
(Plaintiff's Exhibit Nos. 3 and 4 were marked for
identification.)
MR. LAFORET: Would it be possible to raise those charts
to the top clip and have your witness stand and point out because his
chair and his head completely obliterate -- and I want opposing
counsel to understand that we are, in fact, interested in listening to
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all evidence.
MR. BRYANT: Is that better, sir?
MR. LAFORET: That's all right.
BY MR. BRYANT:
Q. If you would, Mr. Ewing, point those points out again
for the purposes -- for the benefit of the board.
A. Okay. The less and excepted part of the PUD begins at
the northeast corner of Section 6, runs along the section line to what
is known as a JAC (sic) monument, then the legal description continues
on the same course to the intersection of the mean high water line of
the Gulf of Mexico, then runs in a southeasterly direction along the
mean high water to a point that is referenced from the GAC monument.
It's kind of -- which I guess you'd call it like a bearing -- bearing
intersection -- runs along that line and goes along the boundaries of
what is known as tract A of the Lely Barefoot Beach unit 1
subdivision, and it goes here and then it gives a bearing to go to a
line that intersects a line that's 50 feet seaward of the mean high
water line of Little Hickory Bay. Then it just gives a general
northerly and easterly direction along that mean high water line until
you intersect the east line of Section 6. Just understand that I show
this as a straight line but, of course, the mean high water line if
located -- we would have it, you know, just kind of meandering through
here in an easterly direction and then back to the point of beginning.
MR. BRYANT: Anything further, sir?
MR. LAFORET: Thank you.
MR. BRYANT: Would you like him to go through the other
one? Was it hard for you to see the first exhibit?
MR. LAFORET: No. I stood up and looked at it, but he
makes more money than I do so he can stand up.
BY MR. BRYANT:
Q. Mr. Ewing, I'd like you to look at the legal description
of Ordinance 85-83, which is in evidence as county's 4. That's tabbed
in the rear. And I'd ask you to compare that to the legal description
that is in county's 3 and tell me whether or not that is the same
legal description, sir. And does that legal description less out the
same area as the first one?
A. That's correct. These appear to be the same legal
description and less out the same parcel that I previously described.
Q. SO it's your opinion within the bounds of reasonable
surveying certainty that both ordinances excluded this area that you
have described to the board earlier and is not part of the Lely PUD?
A. That's correct.
Q. You can sit back down if you want to.
MR. BRYANT: If I might have one moment, Madam Chairman.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Certainly.
Q. Did you determine as part of your surveying and review
of the plat for Lely Barefoot Beach unit 1 where tract A was,
Mr. Ewing?
A. That's correct.
Q. And where is tract A, if you would describe that and
show that to the board, please.
A. Tract A is right here (indicating). I've got it labeled
here. It shows the existing structure. We did a pretty detailed
location here showing kind of everything that was within tract A
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adjacent to the right-of-way. And also locating the median out in
front of tract A.
Q. And did you determine where tract C was also?
A. That's correct. Tract C is a tract that is on the north
side or I'm sorry -- on the east side of Lely Beach Boulevard and
runs along the mean high water line of Little Hickory Bay as it's
easterly boundary.
Q. And did you determine the two-story guardhouse and
whether or not it was in tract A, which we would refer to as the old
guardhouse?
A. Yes. It is -- it is not in tract A.
Q. It's not or is? The old guardhouse. The one that
you've shown down here as two-story --
A. That's correct.
Q. And that building, the two-story building, is in tract
A?
A. That's correct.
Q. And did you determine that the roof line of that
building overhung the right-of-way of Lely Beach Boulevard?
A. That's correct.
Q. Can you determine approximately how much it overhangs
the roadway?
A. The -- yeah. What I've got -- what I have on here is I
show a 4 1/2-foot overhang. It appears to be approximately 4 feet. I
don't have that exact distance shown on here, but it is clearly ~- the
heavy line here is the right-of-way line, and then the dashed line
it shows the overhang.
Q. SO would it be your opinion that that overhang or the
roof line extends over Lely Beach Boulevard?
A. That's correct.
MR. BRYANT: No further questions, Madam Chairman.
Thank you, Mr. Ewing.
CROSS-EXAMINATION
BY MR. HAZZARD:
Q. Good morning, Mr. Ewing. I have just a few questions
for you. First, just there at the end Mr. Bryant referred to the old
guardhouse and talked about this structure on tract A. Is that what
you call the old guardhouse, or when you were referring to the old
guardh0use earlier were you talking about something else?
A. I've been told that just because I was not employed -- I
was not working as a surveyor in this area at the time the old
guardhouse existed, and that's my understanding of the old guardhouse.
Q. Your understanding of the old guardhouse is that it was
where?
A. That it was within tract A.
Q. And did you mention something earlier about distances
from this landscaped strip and that something used to be there? What
was that about?
A. It was my understanding that there was -- at one time
that there was -- that this was used as some sort of way of -- of
access -- limiting access into -- through Lely Beach Boulevard.
Q. Okay. Just so that the board is clear when I'm speaking
about the old guardhouse, I'm talking about a structure previously
located in the median and, I don't know why the county attorney is
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locating the structure on the side of the road, and I don't know how
we're going to keep that clear all day. But when I say old
guardhouse, I'm talking about something that used to be out in the
middle of the road kind of across from this building, just so there's
no confusion, although I can tell already there's gonna be.
Mr. Ewing, let me understand. You took the legal
description out of Ordinance 77-48 and you drew it; right?
A. That's --
Q. This is -- this depicts the drawing of
A. That's correct. The less and excepted
Q. And that's -- this line here goes like
(indicating)?
A. That's correct.
Q. Okay. And you're not opining today that that legal
description is the correct legal description are you?
MR. BRYANT: Objection. I would submit to the board
that's exactly what he's given his opinion on twice.
MR. HAZZARD: Excuse me. I believe that he's implying
that he drew the legal description.
BY MR. HAZZARD:
Q. I'm simply asking if you have any basis of knowing that
that's a correct legal description. Did you do any independent
check? Is it your opinion that that's the correct legal description,
or are you prepared today to say whether it is?
A. That is -- I'm saying that that is the legal description
that is in the PUD and that's how it plots.
Q. Okay. That's fine. Are you opining today, at all, that
the legal description is consistent with the rest of the PUD document?
Have you read the rest of the PUD document?
A. Yes, I have.
Q. And is it your opinion that it's consistent or it's not,
or have you not been asked to give that opinion today?
A. I guess I don't understand what you mean by consistent.
Q. Okay. That's fine. Have you been asked today to give
an opinion as to who owns the land where the guardhouse is located?
A. No.
Q. Do you have any idea who owns the land where the
guardhouse is located?
11R. BRYANT: I'd like to know what guardhouse we're
speaking about. As Mr. Hazzard has so aptly put, we are -- we are
going to have confusion as to which guardhouse we're referring to.
And I'd like for us to at least know which one we're talking about.
MR. HAZZARD: I'm talking about the guardhouse that
we're here for the violation of -- the alleged violation today.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Just to make the board really
clear, we're talking about two old guardhouses and one new guardhouse.
MR. HAZZARD: Right.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON:
existing guardhouse?
MR. HAZZARD: Yes, the existing guardhouse.
11R. BRYANT: There are two existing guardhouses, Madam
Chairman, I would submit to the board, one in tract A and one in tract
R. It might be easier if we referred to it as the new guardhouse at
the front. And then if Mr. Hazzard wants to refer to the other
that?
parcel, yes.
that
Is your question referring to the
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guardhouses, refer to those as the old guardhouse either in tract A or
in the median.
MR. HAZZARD: Why don't I just refer to it as the
guardhouse the county wants us to take down today? The guardhouse the
county wants us to take down today.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Is that in tract R?
MR. HAZZARD: Yes.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Okay. So the guardhouse that's the
subject of our discussion today is in tract R.
BY MR. HAZZARD:
Q. Are you offering any opinion today as to who owns the
land where the guardhouse that we're here fighting about today is
located?
A.
tract R,
Q.
County?
A. Not is owned, no.
property, I think, is owned
entity.
Q. SO you don't know who owns the road, do you?
A. I've been --
Q. You've been -- no, go ahead.
A. No. I have not been asked to give an opinion on who
owns the property where the county is.
Q. Okay. Have you reviewed the -- have you reviewed to any
extent the notice of violation that we're here to talk about today?
Have you read it?
A. No, I have not.
Q. I'm going to hand you a copy I'll share with counsel.
This is the notice of violation that I believe the members of the
board have in front of them today. I've highlighted an area on that
notice of violation. And in the column on the left up towards the top
it says address of violation, street address and/or legal description
within Collier County zoning district -- what does that say?
A. PUD 77-19.
Q. Parentheses --
A. Parentheses, six.
Q. Close parentheses?
A. That's correct.
Q. Anybody ask you to do any work on PUD 77-19,
parentheses, 6, closed parentheses?
A. Not that in particular.
Q. You don't recognize that PUD as a number at all?
A. Well, the PUD has -- was revised in '85.
Q. Okay. So your initial testimony was that you used a
legal description out of Ordinance 77-48; correct?
A. That's correct.
Q. And then the '85 revision became, I think, 85-83; is
that correct?
A. That's correct.
Q. So you don't know what
is that's listed on this notice
A. Not right offhand I do
Just the guardhouse? The guardhouse is located within
and it is my understanding it's owned by the county.
Your understanding is that tract R is owned by Collier
That this whole -- this whole
I don't think is owned by anyone
this zoning district PUD 77-19(6)
of violation, do you?
not.
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Q. I don't either. We're in the same boat there. Would you
turn over the second page of that notice of violation. You see it
says violation one and there's some underlined language and then also
a paragraph that begins, "this is in violation of Collier County PUD
No. 77-19(6), Ordinance No. 85-83." You see that language?
A. Yes.
Q. Well, Ordinance 85-83 is the ordinance that you were
talking about; right?
A. That's correct.
Q. Well, does that indicate to you that PUD 77-19 is
Ordinance 85-83, or am I just reading that wrong?
A. It just -- it appears to me that they're mentioning the
Ordinance 85-83 as if it were a revision to 77-19.
Q. Pretty confusing, isn't it?
MR. BRYANT: Objection. Argumentative.
MR. HAZZARD: I'm sorry. I'm just confused by the
county's notice of violation. I have no further questions. Thank
you.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Any redirect?
MR. BRYANT: Just briefly.
REDIRECT EYJU1INATION
BY MR. BRYANT:
Q. Mr. Ewing, are you familiar with how PUDs are amended
from time to time?
A. Yes.
Q. And have you participated as a surveyor in the amendment
process of PUDs?
A. I, as a surveyor, do not participate in the actual
amendment. Our firm does this on a routine basis and they -- it's
more they usually negotiate with the developer and the county to
have it amended, but, yes, it's a routine thing that happens.
Q. I assume you have had an occasion from time to time to
go out and take an existing PUD and do survey takeoffs from that for
different areas that might be used in that PUD as an amendment; is
that correct?
A. That's correct.
Q. And does it appear to you that 85 -- 85-83 is an
amending PUD and amends the Lely Barefoot Beach PUD?
A. Yes.
MR. BRYANT: No further questions. Thank you,
Mr. Ewing.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Any recross?
MR. HAZZARD: No.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: County can call his next witness.
MR. BRYANT: Thank you. At this --
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Just a second. Just so the
attorneys know that the board is allowed to ask questions as well, and
I apologize to the board members that I didn't ask you if you have any
questions of Mr. Ewing. Mr. Allen does.
MR. ALLEN: Mr. Ewing, I've got a simple question. I'm
trying to find out -- they called that the new guardhouse, tract R.
How far is that located from the permit drawings? Do we know what
that distance would be?
THE WITNESS: I couldn't tell you that.
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MR. ALLEN: Okay.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Are there any other questions by
board members for Mr. Ewing? Based on Mr. Allen's question, do either
attorney have anything else you want to ask Mr. Ewing?
MR. BRYANT: Nothing from the county.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Thank you, Mr. Ewing.
MR. BRYANT: May he be excused, Madam Chairman?
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Do you intend to call him?
MR. HAZZARD: No.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Ewing.
MR. BRYANT: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Ewing.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: You may call your next witness.
MR. BRYANT: Thank you, Madam Chairman. If he could be
sworn, Madam Chairman.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Sir, would you state your name for
the record, and then we'll have the court reporter swear you in.
MR. MCDANIEL: I'm Don McDaniel, M-c-D-a-n-i-e-l.
THEREUPON,
DON MCDANIEL,
a witness, having been first duly sworn, upon his oath, testified as
follows:
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. BRYANT:
Q. Would you state your name, please, sir.
A. I'm Don McDaniel.
Q. How are you employed, sir?
A. By Collier County.
Q. And what is your area of emplOYment? What do you do?
A. I supervise a computer graphics section in the
development services division.
Q. And as part of that responsibility, do you at times
or are you at times called on to create drawings whether it be of
legal descriptions or of buildings, things like that?
A. That's correct. We maintain the county zoning maps.
Q. And how long have you been doing this, Mr. McDaniel?
A. I started with the county in 1969, and that has been
either my duty or supervising that duty off and on since that time.
Q. And as part of your responsibilities, do you maintain
the control over the plat books that the county has a copy of in their
official records? Do you have the plat books that -- such as the
ones that show the Lely Barefoot Beach unit 1 in your department?
A. We have copies of those in my department, yes.
Q. And are they maintained in the normal scope of the
county's records, and are they part of the official county records
that you main -- or you have access to?
A. We have copies of those official records, yes.
MR. BRYANT: At this time, Madam Chairman, I would like
a multi-page -- three-page document titled Lely Barefoot Beach ~nit 1
from plat book 12, page 34 marked and admitted into evidence as
composite Exhibit 5, I believe, for the county.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Any objection?
MR. HAZZARD: None.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON:
it as county's exhibit
Let's have the court reporter mark
composite Exhibit 5, and it will be
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introduced in evidence as the county composite Exhibit 5.
MR. BRYANT: Thank you, Madam Chairman.
(Plaintiff's Exhibit No.5 was marked for
identification.)
BY MR. BRYANT:
Q. I ask you, Mr. McDaniel, to look at what has been marked
as county's Exhibit 5, which is styled Lely Barefoot Beach unit 1, and
ask you are you familiar with that, sir.
A. Yes.
Q. In fact, at my request did you make a copy of that from
the official records of Collier County?
A. Yes.
Q. And if you would speak into the microphone.
A. I'm sorry.
Q. Did you?
A. Yes.
Q. And does it show tract R on that plat, sir?
A. Yes.
Q. And where is tract R, Mr. McDaniel?
A. That's the roadway system in Lely.
Q. Okay. If you would, Mr. McDaniel --
MR. BRYANT: I'd like to have this marked as county's 6
and admitted into evidence without objection.
MR. HAZZARD: Okay.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: No objection? In that case, we
will not only have it marked as -- the drawing as Exhibit No. 6 for
the county, but we'll have it introduced into evidence and the court
reporter can go ahead and mark it now.
(Plaintiff's Exhibit No.6 was marked for
identification.)
BY MR. BRYANT:
Q. Based upon my request, Mr. McDaniel, did you generate
that graphic of the Lely Barefoot Beach PUD and the parcels around it?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. And if you would pick up the mike, it would be easier.
And did you also read the legal description for the Lely Barefoot
Beach PUD?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. And looking at the legal description that is in
Ordinance 77-48 by Lely Estates, Inc., with Collier County, I ask you
is that a copy of the legal description that you utilized to draw that
graphic?
A. Yes, it is.
Q. And if you would look at the legal description also in
Ordinance 85-83 --
MR. HAZZARD: Madam Chairman, we'll stipulate that
they're the same if that's where this is going.
MR. BRYANT: Okay. That's fine.
And did you determine that a certain area is lessed out
Lely PUD, Mr. McDaniel?
Yes, I did.
And if you would for the benefit of the board just point
area that you found was lessed out of the Lely Barefoot Beach
Q.
of the
A.
Q.
out the
PUD.
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A. It starts here at the section -- at the section line,
comes east along this section line -- or west along the section line,
and comes out to the Gulf, comes down to this extension of Anguilla,
goes over, follows up, takes the north line of Anguilla, comes -- I'm
sorry. It takes a straight line out to 50 feet off the shoreline and
then follows a line along the shoreline back to the point of
beginning.
Q. And based upon your training and experience in working
with legal descriptions, is that area lessed out and not part of the
Lely PUD?
A. Yes.
MR. BRYANT: No further questions, Madam Chairman.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Cross-examination?
MR. HAZZARD: I have no questions, your Honor -- Madam
Chairman.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Thank you, Mr. McDaniel.
MR. BRYANT: May he be excused also, Madam Chairman?
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: If nobody intends to call him
further, certainly he may.
MR. BRYANT: Thank you.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Thank you.
MR. BRYANT: Mr. Mazzone.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Mr. Mazzone, would you state your
name into the microphone, and then we will have the court reporter
swear you in.
MR. MAZZONE: For the record my name is Dennis Mazzone.
I'm a code enforcement investigator for Collier County.
THEREUPON,
DENNIS MAZZONE,
a witness, having been first duly sworn, upon his oath, testified as
follows:
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. BRYANT:
Q. will you state your name, please, sir.
A. My name's Dennis Mazzone.
Q. And how are you employed, sir?
A. I'm employed as a code enforcement investigator by
Collier County.
Q. And if you would -- you tend to trail off sometimes when
you're talking, Mr. Mazzone. If you'll speak right in the microphone,
I think it will help the board hear you better. As part of your
responsibility, are you sent out to investigate alleged violations of
the land development code or ordinances of Collier County?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And if you would tell the board what a code investigator
is for Collier County. What do you do?
A. We respond to citizen complaints and any other
complaints that are generated within the office of code enforcement,
and we go into the field to confirm whether or not these complaints
are warranted or not and very often have to research the county
records to confirm the -- the validity to a complaint.
Q. And as part of your responsibilities, were you assigned
an alleged violation by the Lely Barefoot Beach Property Owners
Association and the Lely Barefoot Beach Master Association in Collier
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County?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. What were your instructions, and what did you do in
reference to that, initially, Mr. Mazzone?
A. Initially, my instructions were to research the PUD
materials that were in-house in our records department, and to just
see what I could find as far as my findings for whether or not this
guardhouse was placed in the legal -- in the legal position legal
parcel of property.
Q. And what did you do based upon that instruction? What
did you actually -- how did you investigate it?
A. I pulled the PUD documents out of the records and went
through them, reading 77-48 -- PUD 77-48, PUD 88-85, looking at the
permit and what information was on that permit. I then discussed my
findings with my director and supervisor.
Q. What permit did you specifically review, and do you have
a copy of that with you?
A. I do have a copy of it, and it's permit 88-734.
Q. And what is that permit for?
A. The permit was for the construction of a guardhouse
structure.
Q. If I might see that, please.
MR. BRYANT: Madam Chairman, at this time I would like a
14-page composite exhibit number -- permit No. 8800734 bearing the
left-hand date of March the 3rd, 1988, marked and admitted into
evidence as the county's exhibit or composite Exhibit 7, I
believe.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Seven, it is.
MR. HAZZARD: Looks fine to me, Madam Chairman.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: At this time we will have the
county's composite Exhibit No.7, which is a 14-page document which is
permit No. 88-734 marked and also introduced into evidence.
(Plaintiff's Exhibit No.7 was marked for
identification.)
BY MR. BRYANT:
Q. As part of your investigation for that permit 88-734,
did you also determine the ownership of the property -- of the real
property, the land where that permit structure was supposed to go?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And how did you do that, sir?
A. By pulling the deed for the property in question,
reading the location that was spelled out in the PUD which was -- and
then looking at the permit and seeing -- and physically going out to
the site and seeing where the guardhouse was built versus what the
permit said and then pulling the deed for the property where the
second guardhouse was constructed.
Q. When you say the second guardhouse, are you referring to
what you've heard commonly referred this morning to as the new
guardhouse?
A. Yes, sir, the new guardhouse.
Q. The one closest to Bonita Beach Road; is that correct?
A. That's correct.
MR. BRYANT: Madam Chairman, at this time I would like
warranty deed recorded in O.R. book 13 -- 001308, I believe it is,
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page 000231 admitted into evidence without objection as county's 8, I
believe.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Any objections?
MR. HAZZARD: None.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: At this time we will admit the
warranty deed as county's Exhibit No.8, and I'll ask the court
reporter to mark that.
(Plaintiff's Exhibit No.8 was marked for
identification. )
BY MR. BRYANT:
Q. When you reviewed the permit, Mr. Mazzone, where did it
list the description that this new structure was going to be placed?
A. The job address was noted as No.1, Lely Beach Road.
Q. And do you know where and what is at No.1, Lely Beach
Road?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. What is there, Mr. Mazzone?
A. There is a two-story structure that was initially built
as, I believe, a guardhouse facility, and it housed, I believe,
utilities, and it probably houses -- I think it housed a real estate
firm operation at one time.
Q. Did you physically go out and look at that two-story
building that's at No.1, Lely Beach Road?
A. Yes, sir, I did.
Q. Could you point that out to the members of the Code
Enforcement Board from, I believe, probably Exhibit 1 would be the
easiest one for it over on the right-hand side.
A. Yes.
Q. And if you would hold it up so that it's easier for the
board member on the end to see.
A. That would be this structure here.
Q. And did the permit say what was going to be done at One
Lely Beach Road?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. What did it say was going to be constructed or done at
that site?
A. It said that per plan there would be a guardhouse
constructed with existing electric.
Q. And did it say anything about an addition on that permit
application as opposed to new construction?
A. Yes, sir. Well, it was circled as an addition.
Q. And from your experience as a code investigator, what is
an addition to a building or a structure, Mr. Mazzone?
A. It would be an extension or an improvement to an
existing building or structure.
Q. SO if the builder had gone out and added onto the
two-story building on tract A, would that be an addition in your
opinion as a code investigator?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. But when you went out to Lely Beach Boulevard, what did
you actually physically find?
A. Well, I didn't find an addition to the existing
structure on tract A, but I did find another guardhouse in the
roadway, which is referred to as tract R, further north of the
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original guardhouse.
Q. And would you consider that a new independent building
and not an addition to the two-story structure in tract A?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And I believe you said that the electrical was to be
existing?
A. The permit called for existing electric.
Q. From your experience as a code investigator, what does
that mean, Mr. Mazzone?
A. That the electric would have been previously installed
and previously inspected and would have met code.
Q. Based upon those findings what, if anything, did you do
then?
A. I brought that data back to the office and further
reviewed the location of the guardhouse.
Q. And then did you make any determination as to the
structure that we've referred to as the new guardhouse whether it was
properly sited or was in the proper place?
A. Did you just ask did I make a decision?
Q. Yes, sir. Did you make a determination?
A. I made a determination. Yes, sir, I did.
Q. What did you determine based upon your experience as a
code investigator?
A. That, indeed, the second guardhouse or the one in
question today is not located in tract A.
Q. And did you determine what tract R was?
A. Yes, sir. I determined that tract R was the roadway
that runs north-south through the Lely Barefoot Beach PUD.
Q. And did you determine where tract A was?
A. Yes, sir. I determined that tract A was a parcel of
land on the west side of tract R intended to house a guardhouse as
prescribed in the PUD.
Q. If you would tell the board why you believe that the
guardhouse should be in tract A and not tract R. What did you look at
in the PUD? And please tell the board which PUD you referred to.
A. In PUD 77-40 -- 77-48 the -- the development criteria
which is in Section F, page 4, states that all development shall take
place as prescribed in the PUD and that we should -- there should be
no variation from the master plan of the PUD.
Q. Would you please tell the board why you looked -- and
what is PUD Ordinance 77 -- did you say 48?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. What is that?
A. An ordinance is an amendment to the zoning regulations,
and that's what this PUD is.
Q. What is that PUD you are referring to? What is it
styled?
A. It's styled the Lely Barefoot Beach Development the
PUD.
Q. And did that 77-48 amend any other PUD that you know of?
A. No, sir, it did not.
Q. And why did you refer to PUD 77-19 on your notice of
violation, Mr. Mazzone?
A. 77-19 with the 6 in parentheses was the number assigned
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the PUD that was -- I used as a reference point to research the
document that was adopted as the ordinance, which became 77-48.
Q. SO 77-48 that you are referring to now to the board that
you looked at for where a guardhouse can be is the same, if you would,
as 77-19?
A. That's correct.
Q. 77-19 was like a control number that was assigned to it
before the ordinance was actually adopted as 77-48?
A. This is my understanding.
Q. And did you determine from 77-48 where the guardhouse
could be located, and if you would refer that to the board and read to
them that language and what section you're referring to, sir.
A. In Section F of 77-48, page 19, a development sequence
plan, phase development, development sequence in schedule, the overall
project has been divided into the following phases. And it makes
reference to blocks A through J, the south access road in the
utilities site, commonly -- community recreation center, and, number
one, the guardhouse complex. .
Q. And where does the ordinance for the Lely Barefoot Beach
PUD provide a guardhouse to be, and if you would read that language
from the PUD.
A. Please repeat that.
Q. Where does that ordinance say a guardhouse can go,
Mr. Mazzone?
A. In Section F, page 14, the gatehouse complex site, this
may be utilized for an entrance -- entry gate facility within security
against entry by unauthorized persons or vehicles will be provided the
gatehouse complex may be contained -- may contain dwelling units for
resident employees of the project. Additionally, the gatehouse
complex may incorporate administrative, maintenance, and utility
activities, and storage facilities for the project as a whole.
Q. And what tract is that provided for in?
A. They're referring to tract A -- I'm sorry. Yes, tract
A.
Q. Is that the tract that you referred to earlier where the
two-story building is?
A. That's correct.
Q. And is there any other provision in the PUD that allows
for any type of guardhouse or facility like a guardhouse?
A. No, sir.
Q. Is there a provision in a landscaped area that you also
can extend the guardhouse into if you wanted to or add those type
things in tract -- I believe it's tract C or the landscaped
entrance? Did you review that?
A. There is a Section F, page 14, that I mentioned, and
that's what I reviewed.
Q. Okay. And is it your opinion that the guardhouse should
be located in tract A based upon that PUD?
A. That's correct.
Q. Did you look at any of the other amending PUDs of the
Lely Barefoot Beach PUD?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Would you please tell the board which ones you actually
referred to and which ones you reviewed?
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A.
and 10.
Q. Did that ordinance amend 77-48?
A. Yes, it did.
Q. And did it amend the Lely Barefoot Beach PUD?
A. Yes, it did.
Q. And what, if anything, did it provide for as an allowed
gatehouse or gatehouse complex?
A. On -- in Section 4, on page -- I'm sorry.
4.2-A, page 15, it mentions the uses permitted and
a tract A and that an entry gate facility would be
tract.
Q. And did this appear to be consistent with the other --
with the earlier PUD for Lely that you reviewed?
A. Yes, it did.
Q. Did that PUD amending ordinance provide for or allow any
guardhouse in tract R or the roadway system?
A. No, sir.
Q. Did you review any other PUD amending ordinances for
Lely Barefoot Beach?
A. No, I did not.
Q. SO after you reviewed these two ordinances, physically
went to the scene and saw where the new guardhouse was, what did you
do then, Mr. Mazzone?
A. Well, I gave all my information that I -- that I found
to my supervisors.
Q. Did you subsequently prepare a notice of ordinance
violation and order to correct violation?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Why did you do that, Mr. Mazzone?
A. Well, the first step was that we served
we posted what we call a notice of violation and
formal written notice that there is a problem at
Q. Did you do that?
A. Yes, I did, sir. And then following that we prepared a
notice of violation in stipulation form. I did that upon request of
my superVlsors.
Q. The notice of the red tag you placed upon the building,
did you specifically state on that document what was the violation?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. What, if anything, did you tell the Lely Barefoot Beach
Property Owners Association and the Master Association was the
violation?
A. It would be the same as' what was stated on the -- the
notice of violation, that it was in violation of PUD requirements and
regulations.
Q. Because it was built in the wrong place?
A. That's correct.
Q. Did you tell them anything else was wrong about the
guardhouse being there? Did you mention anything about traffic
control?
A.
Q.
Property
I reviewed Ordinance 85-83, Section 2.7, page -- pages 9
Section
makes reference to
located within that
-- or was that
red tag. It's just a
the location.
Yes. I did.
What, if anything, did you tell the Lely Barefoot Beach
Owners and Master Associations that you believed was a
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violation as far as traffic control goes or the guardhouse?
A. That the guardhouse was placed in the roadway which
impeded traffic to the park lands just south of the development.
Q. What made you determine that this building was impeding
traffic, and what allowed or what pointed you to charging that
violation?
A. We've received citizen complaints regarding that very
subject, and also I made at least four visits to the guardhouse myself
where I did see traffic stopped at the facility, the guardhouse
facility in question, and had photographed these happenings.
Q. Did you also review the use access agreement dated
November the 10th, 1987?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. I'd ask you to look at that and see if this is the
document that you reviewed.
A. Yes, it is.
MR. BRYANT: Without objection, Madam Chairman, I would
ask this be marked and admitted into evidence as county's, I believe
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Would you tell the board again what
that exhibit is?
MR. BRYANT: This is the use access agreement between
Lely Development Corporation and the Board of County Commissioners of
Collier County Florida dated November the 10th, 1987, and is executed
by Max Haas, chairman, Board of County Commissioners and Richard
Schlag Lely Development Corporation.
MR. KOWALSKI: I believe that's Exhibit 9 rather than
8.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: That's correct. It's county's
Exhibit No.9, and how many pages is it?
MR. BRYANT: Eight pages, Madam Chairman.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Thank you. And I note there's no
objection, so at this time I would ask the court reporter to mark, and
we will introduce into evidence as county's composite Exhibit 9 an
eight-page document dated November 10, 1987, and titled use access
agreement.
(Plaintiff's Exhibit No.9 was marked for
identification. )
BY MR. BRYANT:
Q. When you reviewed that use access agreement, did you
read the entire document, Mr. Mazzone?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Did you see paragraph two on that document?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. If you would, for the benefit of the board, what is the
statement in paragraph two in that use access agreement which is
county's Exhibit 9 in evidence, Mr. Mazzone?
A. Paragraph two reads: "Seller guarantees to board permit
unrestricted legal access to property including the right to use any
road now and hereafter constructed within said easement."
Q. From your reading that and your observations of traffic
being stopped at the guardhouse, did you believe that that was a
violation of that use access agreement?
A. Yes, I did.
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Q.
A.
Why is that?
Because traffic was being impeded.
It was not free
access.
Q. Do you believe that was not unrestricted access?
A. Yes, I believe that was not unrestricted access.
Q. Did you ever receive any complaints from individuals
about being stopped at the guardhouse or having their access to the
roadway system or the park impeded?
A. Yes, I have.
Q. If you would please share with the board those comments
and what you -- what information you received about that.
A. I've spoken to people who tried to get into the park
from Bonita Beach Road, and they were stopped at the gate, and they've
complained of the -- their delay to the park.
Q. Based upon your review of the use access agreement and
those complaints, did that further lead you to believe as a code
enforcement officer that the Lely Barefoot Beach Property Owners and
Master Associations were in violation of Collier County agreements and
ordinances?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. What other documents did you review, Mr. Mazzone, as
part of your investigation?
A. There's also an easement agreement that I reviewed.
Q. And what, if anything, did you determine from the
easement agreement?
A. The easement agreement dated the 1st of August '85, also
makes mention of access not being stopped.
Q. Is that the one dated August the 1st, 1985, recorded
O.R. book 1291, page 1232?
A. That's correct.
Q. Does that appear to be a copy of the one you're
referring to?
A. Yes, sir.
MR. HAZZARD: Excuse me. What was the recording of
that?
MR. BRYANT: 1291, 1232.
MR. ANDREWS: I'd like to make a motion we might want to
take a five-, ten-minute break.
MR. BRYANT: I would submit to the board that we might
want to do it now. It's going to go on for a while with this
particular witness. If the board member would like a break at this
time, I have no objection to it.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: I apologize to the court reporter.
Did you get the paper in there? I have a had a couple of requests
that we take a break, and I hate to do that in the middle of a
witness, and I was going to wait until we at least finished with the
direct. But in view of the fact that you tell me it's going to take a
while with this witness, why don't we take about a ten-minute break,
and then we'll convene back here about five minutes till.
MR. BRYANT: Thank you.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Board will be in break.
(A short break was held.)
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: County Code Enforcement Board will
come back to order. We were in the middle of a witness. Mr. Bryant,
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you may continue.
MR. BRYANT: Thank you, Madam Chairman. May it please
the board.
BY MR. BRYANT:
Q. I believe we were talking about the easement that was
recorded at O.R. book 1291, page 1232 and dated the first day of
August, 1985, and I think -- I think you said you reviewed that,
didn't you, Mr. Mazzone?
A. Yes, I did.
MR. BRYANT: Without objection I would ask this be
marked as county's 10 and move it into evidence, Madam Chairman.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: This is the easement agreement?
MR. BRYANT: Two pages, Madam Chairman.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Two pages. Any objection?
MR. HAZZARD: None.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: At this time I'd ask the court
reporter to mark and also we will introduce county's Exhibit No. 10, a
two-page easement agreement dated August 1, 1985.
(Plaintiff's Exhibit No. 10 was marked for
identification.)
BY MR. BRYANT:
Q. What other documents, if any, did you review,
Mr. Mazzone?
A. I reviewed the land development code sections that
addressed planning and development.
Q. And why did you do that, Mr. Mazzone?
A. Because the guardhouse in question is is located in
such a manner in that the construction -- the permit claims that it's
located within a certain PUD.
Q. And are PUDs regulated and controlled by the Land
Development Code for Collier County?
A. The PUD is an amendment to the zoning ordinance, and the
PUD becomes the -- that which dictates what kind of construction and
conduct will be performed within the area that's covered by the PUD.
Q. Would you agree with me that the Land Development Code
is kind of like the overall bible for land development within Collier
County?
A. Yes, it is.
Q. And then a PUD is carved, if you would, out of that Land
Development Code and must be consistent with it?
A. Yes, it is.
Q. And that is the reason you reviewed the Land Development
Code, I assume?
A. This is correct.
Q. Did you determine whether or not from your review of the
Land Development Code and all the other documents that you referred to
that there were violations or alleged violations by the structure
known as the new guardhouse and where it was situated?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. And, specifically, did you prepare a notice of ordinance
violation and order to correct violation that set out those particular
sections you believed that was in violation by the Lely Barefoot Beach
Property Owners Association?
A. Yes, I did.
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Q. Did you reduce that to a written document, and did you
subsequently serve a notice of ordinance violation and order to
correct violation?
A. Yes, on both counts.
Q. Did you also send written notifications of the hearing
to be held for the alleged violations or did your department do that?
Let me show what's known as
A. It would have been sent by our coordinator.
Q. Let me show what's titled notice of hearing and shows
two certified mail notices signed for and ask you if you recognize
that.
A. Yes, I do.
Q. What is that, Mr. Mazzone?
A. This notice is mailed out by the coordinator of the --
between our office and the Code Enforcement Board.
Q. And is that to give notification to the alleged violator
of the hearing?
A. Yes, it is.
MR. BRYANT: This is a 13-page document, Madam Chairman,
styled notice of hearing with two stapled on certified mail with
return receipts showing they've been served. I would, without
objection, move this into evidence as, I believe, county's 11.
MR. HAZZARD: No objection.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: At this time I will ask the court
reporter to mark and we will introduce into evidence a 13-page
document as county's composite Exhibit 11, which is a notice of
hearing with a number of attached pages.
MR. BRYANT: Thank you, Madam Chairman.
(Plaintiff's Exhibit No. 11 was marked for
identification.)
BY MR. BRYANT:
Q. I believe I asked you earlier did you subsequent to your
investigation serve a notice of violation -- ordinance violation and
order to correct violation in reference to this matter?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Did you serve one of those on a Tamela Eady Wiseman as a
registered agent for Lely Barefoot Beach Property Owners Association?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. And did you serve a subsequent one on Glenn Carroll as
the registered agent of Lely Barefoot Beach Master Association?
A. That's correct.
Q. And do you have those with you, Mr. Mazzone?
A. Yes, sir.
MR. BRYANT: I would request at this time, Madam
Chairman, that the notice of violation to Tamela Eady Wiseman of three
pages be marked and admitted into evidence, without objection, as
county's, I believe, 12 and the notice of ordinance violation to Glenn
Carroll, one page, be admitted into evidence as, I believe, county's
13.
MR. HAZZARD: Madam Chairman, it's not clear to me why
12 is three pages long and 13 is one page long, but --
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Is there some reason for the
difference in the number of pages, Mr. Bryant?
MR. BRYANT: I can take the witness through that, Madam
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Chairman. I would submit to the board that that's a matter -- if
there is an issue on that, it's for cross-examination.
MR. HAZZARD: Note for the record that 13 appears to be
incomplete and otherwise fine.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: At this time then the notice of
violation to Tamela Wiseman will be marked and introduced into
evidence as county's Exhibit 12, and the notice of violation to Glenn
Carroll will be marked and introduced as Exhibit 13. And the board
will duly note that the respondent has characterized Exhibit 13 as
incomplete.
(Plaintiff's Exhibit Nos. 12 and 13 were marked for
identification.)
BY MR. BRYANT:
Q. When you served Miss Wiseman, did you give this notice
of ordinance violation and order to correct violation directly to her,
Mr. Mazzone?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. And did she take it and review it or leave your presence
and take it from you?
A. To the best of my memory I believe she did leave at one
point.
Q. Did she subsequently return and give to you the notice
of violation, which is county's 12, showing where she had signed it?
A. That's correct.
Q. And did she ask you to explain any of the notice of
ordinance violation to her?
A. Not to my -- not to my best recollection.
Q. Did you in any way coerce or attempt to force her or
cajole her into signing this?
A. In no way, sir.
Q. Did you ever tell her what signing this meant and try to
provide her advice?
A. Not to my memory. Normally when I serve these papers be
it to -- no matter who it is or whatever the case if there are any
questions I ask if there are any questions. I try to be of
assistance.
Q. You remember giving any assistance to Miss Wiseman
before she executed this?
A. No, I don't, sir.
Q. And she provided it back to you signed recognizing that
she had received it and in paragraph 3 admitting the violation. Did
you note that?
A. She provided it back to me signed, yes, sir.
Q. Mr. Carroll. Did you in any way coerce, cajole, or try
to get him to sign county's No. 13, which is the notice of ordinance
violation?
A. No, sir. They were served in the very same manner.
Q. And did Mr. Carroll ask you for any type of advice, if
you remember?
A. Yes, sir. Mr. Carroll had just -- just come out of a
very lengthy meeting. I had waited for him. I, in fact, left the
office and had to return because it was an approximate hour. Then I
had asked for Mr. Carroll's signature on this advising him that it was
information that was of value to him letting him know that there would
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be this meeting today.
Q. And did he ask you for any type of advice on whether or
not he should sign it, if you remember?
A. No, sir.
Q. And did he execute it?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Now, you've heard some argument about one document
containing three pages and one one page. Would you please tell the
board why that is, Mr. Mazzone?
A. The three-page document that was served to Tamela
Wiseman had -- has attached to it the exhibits. The one page served
to Glenn Carroll does not have the very same exhibits attached today.
Mr. Carroll was provided with those exhibits, though. They're the
very same exhibits that are on Miss Wiseman's.
Q. How did you provide Mr. Carroll the exhibits?
A. I -- I believe that they were paper clipped to the
N.O.V. in stip., to his copy.
Q. And when you provided Miss Wiseman her three-page copy,
did she ever tell you that she did not represent any of these parties,
or did she accept the document from you as if she represented both the
Lely Barefoot Beach Property Owners Association and the Master
Association?
A. She accepted them in a very friendly way and was very
professional and didn't indicate that she wasn't accepting them for
any party.
Q. But she signed them and gave it back to you?
A. That's correct.
Q. Now, you alleged certain violations in this particular
notice of ordinance violation, both the one you served Miss Wiseman
and Mr. Carroll. You specifically alleged that -- that Collier County
zoning district PUD 77-19(6) -- and I assume your earlier comments
about this was the tracking number, and that's the reason you put that
in?
A. That's correct.
Q. Then you said Lely Barefoot Beach, unit 1, tract R of
Collier County record additional guardhouse facility. Why did you put
that in, Mr. Mazzone?
A. Because that is the precise location of the guardhouse
in question.
Q. The one that's closest to Bonita Beach Road which we've
referred to as the new one?
A. This is correct.
Q. Then you set out certain ordinance violations you
believed that this particular building was in violation of based upon
Collier County Ordinance 91-102. What is that ordinance, Mr. Mazzone?
A. Ordinance 91-102 amended is our Land Development Code.
Q. Is that the code you referred to earlier that you
researched prior to alleging these violations?
A. That's correct.
Q. You specifically claim that the building is in violation
of 91-102 Section 2.1.5 -- 15. What is that section, Mr. Mazzone, and
why did you allege that?
A. That section makes reference to prohibited uses and
structures in zoning districts. Those would be uses that are not
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allowed or permitted as a permitted use, conditional use, or use by a
reasonable implication.
Q. Now, do you know or -- strike that. Why did you allege
that violation of the structure, Mr. Mazzone?
A. Because the use of the roadway the -- because the permit
-- I'm sorry. The PUD had specifically indicated where the
guardhouse was to be located. The PUD documentation could not be
changed unless it went before the Board of County Commissioners.
Q. And the PUD documentation said that it had to be placed
in what section of the PUD?
A. In tract A.
Q. I'd ask you to look at page 20 of Ordinance 85-83,
please. And you would agree with me that that section which deals
with tract C landscaped entrance drive strip -- do you see that under
Section 6?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. You would agree with me that under principal uses in
Section C it says portions of or facilities related to the gatehouse
complex that that could be used -- that section -- Section C could be
used like Section A for the gatehouse complex?
A. Please repeat that.
Q. Under 6.2 uses permitted
A. Yes, sir.
Q. -- Section 2 portions of or facilities related to the
gatehouse complex. You would agree with me that also in tract C, like
tract A, some use of that property could be used for a gatehouse;
isn't that correct, by it being provided in the PUD?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. But nowhere did you find in any of the PUDs that a
gatehouse was allowed in tract R; is that correct?
A. That's correct.
Q. Now, do you know what the zoning designation -- and if
you need to use the graphic behind you, which is county's Exhibit 6,
what is the zoning designation where the guardhouse is?
A. It's where I'm pointing. It is A.S.T.
Q. And what does A.S.T. mean, if you know, Mr. Mazzone?
A. Agricultural special treatment.
Q. What is a special treatment designation for the benefit
of the board, Mr. Mazzone?
A. It would be treatment that -- it would be lands that
would be treated in such a way that the development wouldn't normally
-- not take place on those properties.
Q. Is that consistent with your alleging the violation of
2.1.15 in your notice of violation?
A. That's one of them.
Q. And did you determine where the PUD for the Lely
Barefoot Beach PUD -- D actually was? Did you look at the
geographical area where the PUD was?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. And did you determine from your investigation whether or
not the Lely Barefoot Beach guardhouse, the new guardhouse, was in
that PUD?
A. I did make my determination, yes.
Q. What was your determination?
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A. That it was outside the PUD.
Q. Did you determine it was in the A.S.T. zoning
designation?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Would that from your experience as a code enforcement
officer be a violation and be one of the ones you alleged in 2.1.15?
A. Yes, sir, that coupled with the unified control.
Q. All right. If you would point me to that allegation and
explain that to the board.
A. Section 2.2.20.2.3 makes reference to unified control in
that all lands included for the purposes of the development of the PUD
must be owned and under the control of the applicant.
Q. And did you determine that by the guardhouse being in
the A.S.T. area outside the PUD that that was a violation of that
section?
A. That's correct.
Q. Did you also look at 2.20.2.1?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. And what violation did you believe occurred there?
A. That particular section addresses relationship of
planned unit developments to the growth management plan in that all
development regulations in all county ordinances shall apply unless
specifically changed or amended by a PUD or modified by an approved
PUD.
Q. And why did you believe that where the guardhouse was
located in the A.S.T. area outside the PUD violated that section?
A. The PUD was specific to the tract A location for the
guardhouse. There was no -- there was nothing mentioned in the PUD,
which was the approved master plan, for housing the guardhouse
anywhere else.
Q. SO is it your opinion as a code enforcement officer that
by being outside the PUD and in the A.S.T., it was in violation of
that section also?
A. That's correct.
Q. You would agree with me, wouldn't you, Mr. Mazzone, that
tract A is within the Lely Barefoot Beach PUD?
A. Yes, I would.
Q. And would you agree with me that tract C, the landscaped
entrance that we just talked about, is within the Lely Barefoot Beach
PUD?
A. Yes, I would.
Q. And the guardhouse -- the new guardhouse sits in neither
of those tracts; is that correct?
A. That's correct.
Q. If you would -- looking at Section 2.2.20.2.3, what, if
anything, did you believe was a violation there?
A. Here, again, that unified control section makes
reference to ownership and control of those properties that are to be
developed.
Q. And is that part of paragraph one and paragraph two?
A. Yes, it is, sir.
Q. And is that what you were talking about earlier -- about
when you were talking about just 2.2.20? You were talking about
the unified or uniform control of the development?
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A. Unified control is 2.2.20.2.3.
Q. SO you just left off the 2. -- .2.3 when you were
talking about it earlier?
A. That's correct, sir.
Q. SO 2.2.20.2.3 is the unified control?
A. That's correct.
Q. And you believe that by the guardhouse being where it is
in the A.S.T. area outside the PUD, it's in violation of that?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Okay. What is 2.2.20.3.8 paragraphs one and two,
Mr. Mazzone, and why do you believe that's a violation?
A. That makes -- 2.2.20.3.8 makes reference to the common
open spaces and common facilities in that the PUD shall provide for
and establish an organization for ownership and maintenance of these
common open spaces and common facilities and that they must meet all
the obligations of the PUD.
Q. And did you believe that because the new guardhouse is
outside the PUD and in the A.S.T. zoning designation, it violated
that?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. As to Section 2.7.3.3 why did you allege that violation,
Mr. Mazzone?
A. 2.7.3.3 makes reference to the effects of the planned
unit development in that a planned unit development is actually an
amendment to the zoning ordinance. It becomes the development
standard for the -- for the development of that PUD, and it must
follow the PUD master plan.
Q. And did you believe because the new guardhouse was
outside the PUD and in the A.S.T. zoning, it violated that section?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And is that because that it did not place the guardhouse
in either tract A or tract C and, in fact, placed a guardhouse outside
the PUD?
A. That's correct.
Q. You also alleged a violation of impeding traffic. Why
did you allege that, Mr. Mazzone?
A. As referenced in the PUD -- in PUD 85-83 Section 2.7,
which is pages 9 and 10, final site development plan makes reference
under 2. -- 2.7 that Exhibit A constitutes both the PUD master plan of
development and the Barefoot Beach subdivision master plan. As you
continue onto page 10, the PUD master plan indicates that the
meandering north-south access road extends from Bonita Beach Road to
the south boundary of the project. Vehicular access to the
state-owned lands south of the Barefoot Beach project is to occur via
this north-south access road. No modification may be made to this
road as planned which would interfere with access to the state-owned
lands to the south.
Q. And was it your opinion asa code enforcement officer
that the construction of this new building violated that section of
the PUD?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Did you also see in the PUD documents that any
development of a guardhouse must be approved by the community
development director?
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A. Yes, sir.
Q. And in any in all of your review of the documents you
reviewed, did you ever see where the community development director
ever approved this guardhouse?
A. No, sir.
Q. In fact, your review of the entire files of Collier
County don't show any approval by the community development director;
is that correct?
A. That's correct.
Q. Would it be your opinion as a code enforcement officer
this is a further violation of the PUD because it did not acquire the
approval of the community development director prior to this
construction?
A. That is correct.
Q. I ask you to look at a board that has six photographs on
it and ask you if you made those photographs.
A. Yes, I believe I did.
Q. Do the photographs truly and accurately depict the area
as photographed when you made them?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Did you modify, change, or in any way tamper with those
photographs?
A. No, sir.
to measurements.
Q. Or as to dates?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. You didn't try to change or doctor up the photos, did
you?
A.
I made some -- some remarks with my ink pen as
No, sir.
MR. BRYANT: Without objection, Madam Chairman, I would
move to admit this into evidence as county's --
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Fourteen I think it is. No
objections?
MR. HAZZARD: None.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: At this time I'll ask the court
reporter to mark and we will introduce into evidence the county's
Exhibit 14, which is a board with some photographs.
(Plaintiff's Exhibit No. 14 was marked for
identification.)
BY MR. BRYANT:
Q. Please tell the board what these photographs show,
Mr. Mazzone, and why did you make them?
A. The -- the photographs primarily show the guardhouse and
where it's situated and that there are two roads running on either
side of the guardhouse. It also shows that there are vehicles stopped
at the guardhouse at least on one occasion when I took a photograph.
Another investigator or myself had taken a measurement or a couple
measurements in the road, and it shows a 24-foot wide road that runs
between the old guardhouse and the median strip. It also -- we also
took a measurement from the old or original guardhouse, the two-story
structure, to the guardhouse in question and that was an approximate
200-and-some-odd feet.
Q. Mr. Mazzone, the photograph that is in the middle of the
board on the right-hand side, the smaller photograph, it's dated
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10-19-94. The structure that's on the left side of that as you look
it, what is that building, Mr. Mazzone?
A. That would be the original guardhouse structure.
Q. And is that the one that, if you look at county's
Exhibit 1 and tract A, is titled the two-story block structure?
A. That's correct.
Q. Did you ever see the arms that are attached to the
gatehouse on one side and then stands on the right-hand side that are
used to stop traffic? Did you ever see those down anytime you were
out there Mr. Mazzone?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. I'm sorry?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Do you remember how many times you saw those gates down?
A. Pretty much every time I was out there.
Q. And do you remember if both were down or only one was
down, and if only one, which one?
A. I believe only one was down, and that would have been
the one on the beach side of the road.
Q. Fartherest (sic) from the gatehouse; is that correct?
A. That's correct.
Q. And do you know why from your investigation -- take your
seat if you'd like to. You can set the photos up on the easel. Did
you ever determine why there were two gates and why one might be up
and one might be down?
A. I never made that determination.
Q. But it was your observation that, generally, the gate
furtherest (sic) from the guardhouse was the one down when you were
out there?
A. That's correct.
Q. And was it your opinion that by these gates being there
that traffic to the park was being impeded?
A. Correct.
Q. What's at the very end of Lely Barefoot Beach, the
southern end, Mr. Mazzone?
A. A park facility.
Q. Do you know what kind of park facility is there?
A. It's a county-run park.
Q. Do you know if some of the land belongs to the State of
Florida and some belongs to the county?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. I'm sorry?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And is that what you have determined from your
investigation?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And do you know whether or not the county maintains and
administers the state-owned lands as part of it's county park?
A. I don't know, sir.
Q. Okay. Do you know whether or not the county has a
facility there at that park like showers, any type of convenience
area?
A. There are bath facilities, and there's a parking
facility.
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And do you know whether or not the county has a county
ranger there?
I don't know, sir.
Okay. When was the last time you visited Lely Barefoot
Mr. Mazzone?
Approximately two weeks ago.
Was the guardhouse still -- the new guardhouse still
the pictures show it was in county's Exhibit 14?
Correct.
It hasn't been removed has it, Mr. Mazzone?
No, sir.
MR. BRYANT: If I might have one moment, Madam
Chairman. I don't have any further questions of this witness, Madam
Chairman.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Thank you. Cross-examination.
MR. HAZZARD: Thank you. It will take me just a second
to move some things to the podium. Madam Chairman, I've noticed that
Mr. Bryant and I have many of the similar exhibits, and in preparing
to come today I made copies of each of those exhibits for the panel
because I think it would be helpful if you look at some of these
documents as we're going through. If you don't mind I'll take this
opportunity to pass out a book. Many of these are copies of what's
already been entered into, and I'll be referring to a number of these
documents as I examine -- cross-examine Inspector Mazzone. You all
may find it helpful to have some of these documents in front of you.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Does Mr. Bryant have a copy of
this?
MR. HAZZARD: I'm going to give it to him.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Okay. Mr. Bryant, would you look
it over and see if you have no objection to the board looking at any
of these documents?
MR. BRYANT: May it please the chairman, normally I
would object to evidence being admitted into my portion of the case by
opposing counsel; however, to assist the board so that they have got
these documents in front of them, I would be more than glad to allow
that once I've had an opportunity to see what's in here, because I
haven't seen them before. -
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: I'd ask the board not to look at
the book until Mr. Bryant has had an opportunity to do so. It's my
understanding that some of these 14 exhibits that have already been
introduced into evidence are in here.
MR. HAZZARD: Some of them were introduced as composite
exhibits, and they're on separate -- behinq separate tab entries as we
go through. And at this stage I will not -- if Mr. Bryant wants to
stipulate -- I'm not looking to enter these as exhibits. I'm merely
offering them as copies of the exhibits that perhaps have been already
entered and that we will refer to as I examine Inspector Mazzone. And
then as we go on through the day, the additional items, hopefully,
will be entered as exhibits as I present my case.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: I'd like to point out to the board
while we have this break that the Collier County Land Development Code
that Mr. I1azzone has been referring to is in our packet today, and all
of the seCClons that he's been testifying about are in our packet.
MR. HAZZARD: In addition, it's behind tab one of the
Q.
park
A.
Q.
Beach,
A.
Q.
where
A.
Q.
A.
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book you just received.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Thank you.
MR. BRYANT: I don't have any objection at all, Madam
Chairman.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: So the board may look at the black
notebook that's been given to us by Mr. Hazzard. Mr. Hazzard, you've
also handed us another binder which is entitled appendix. Would you
tell us what's in there and show that one to Mr. Bryant as well.
MR. HAZZARD: This appendix simply was too long to fit
in the main binder that you have, and after Mr. Bryant has an
opportunity to look at it, if he has no objection, I'll tell you what
it is.
MR. BRYANT: I don't have any objection to this, Madam
Chairman.
MR. HAZZARD: In that case the appendix that you have
just received consists of a compilation of what are called park
intercept surveys. The county park rangers at Lely Barefoot Beach, at
the Barefoot Beach Preserve county park, approach various folks who
are visiting the park on a daily basis, and they ask them questions,
and in particular they ask about did you have any problem with access
to the park through the guardhouse.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: At this time the board then will
look, to aid -- aid us in the cross-examination, at the documents that
have been handed to us by Mr. Hazzard, and there's no objection from
us doing so by the county. Understand that some of these have already
been introduced into exhibits -- into evidence by the county, but
there are some that have not. And they are not being introduced into
evidence at this time but probably will be moved into evidence during
Mr. Hazzard's part of the case. So thank you for that aid, and you
may continue with your cross-exam.
MR. HAZZARD: Madam Chairman, I believe Mr. Bryant has
no objection to moving all that material into evidence at this time.
It's material that we're both very familiar with.
MR. BRYANT: That is correct, Madam Chairman. I think
it might aid the board to have --
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Well, thank you. That also saves
us a lot of time. So at this time we're going to introduce both the
black notebook and the appendix handed to us by respondents' counsel
as respondents' -- let's call them composite Exhibits 1 and 2. And
just be sure the court reporter has copies of them and that she is
able to mark them both.
MR. HAZZARD: Thank you, Madam Chairman.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: And thank you, Mr. Bryant, for
letting him do that out of order. You're saving us all a lot of
time.
CROSS-EXAMINATION
BY MR. HAZZARD:
Q. Inspector Mazzone, how are you today?
A. Fine. Thank you.
Q. This is not the first time you and I have had an
opportunity to do a little question-and-answer session, is it?
A. No, sir.
Q. I'd like to start by asking you to look at the Collier
County notice of ordinance violation. It's behind tab one, and I
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believe the board already has it. But if you would look at the -- the
notice of violation itself starts, up at the top, Collier County
Florida notice of ordinance violation and order to correct violation.
A. I have -- I don't -- I don't have your paperwork. I
have my own here.
Q. It's the third page behind tab one, Inspector Mazzone.
He's got the actual exhibits. It's already been entered into -- as an
exhibit.
Inspector Mazzone, you cited two entities with this
notice of violation, correct, the Lely Barefoot Beach Property Owners
Association, Inc. and the Lely Master Association, Inc.; is that
correct?
A. That's correct.
Q. Okay. Who owns the land where the guardhouse that we're
talking about today is located?
A. Lely Barefoot Beach Property Owners Association, Inc.
Q. Okay. And when you issue notices of violation, do you
typically issue those to the person who owns the land?
A. That's correct.
Q. Why did you issue this to the Lely Barefoot Beach Master
Association, Inc.?
A. The master association also has an interest in this
property.
Q. What interest is that?
A. I would imagine that the master association is an
association that's a branch of the Lely Barefoot Beach -- they are a
part of all the associations within the PUD.
Q. What investigation did you do to determine that you
should issue this citation to the Lely Barefoot Beach Master
Association, Inc.?
A. I didn't do investigation that would lead me to want to
do this. I was instructed to make out this notice as it appears.
Q. And who instructed you to put the Lely Barefoot Beach
Master Association, Inc., on there?
A. It would have been either the acting director or
supervisor.
Q. And is it your testimony today, if I can paraphrase it,
that you don't have a clue what that association is doing named on
this notice of violation?
MR. BRYANT: Object. I would object. That's
argumentative. It's improper cross-examination.
Q. Let me rephrase the question. What clue do you have
that leads you to put that name on the notice of violation?
A. As I say the notice was typed by the coordinator. I
didn't design or make up who it was to be sent to. I did provide
information for Lely Barefoot Beach Homeowners -- or Property Owners
Association, Inc.
Q. SO you provided no information and did no investigation
at all regarding Lely Barefoot Beach Master Association, Inc.?
A. That's not correct.
Q. Okay. What investigation did you do regarding the Lely
Barefoot Beach Master Association, Inc., in connection with issuing
this notice of violation?
A. I can recall seeing the master association's name appear
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on various documents.
Q. What documents?
A. I can't recall the documents.
Q. Is it on the building permit application?
A. No, sir.
Q. Is it on the certificate of occupancy?
A. No, sir.
Q. Is it on any of the various inspection reports that are
in that 14-page exhibit that was entered earlier?
A. Sir, it was not by my choice that that was inserted on
the form.
Q. You've signed this investigator's signature down at the
bottom Dennis Mazzone. Does that signature mean anything when you put
your signature on there?
A. Of course.
Q. What does it mean?
A. It means that I'm the investigator. I'm signing the
form. I'm the contact person to get back to once you receive these
papers.
Q. Okay. Inspector Mazzone, are you aware that there is a
court case going on that pertains to this guardhouse?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And are you aware that the two plaintiffs in that court
case are the Lely Barefoot Beach Property Owners Association, Inc.,
and the Lely Barefoot Beach Master Association, Inc.?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And isn't it true that the reason the Lely Barefoot
Beach Master Association, Inc., appears on here is because they're
litigating against Collier County across the way?
A. I have -- this is -- I have no comment on that. I have
no idea. That's not my thinking.
Q. SO you conducted an investigation that lead to this
notice of violation being issued; correct?
A. Correct.
Q. And you issued it to these two entities; correct?
A. Correct.
Q. And you're unable to tell this board today why you
issued it to the Lely Barefoot Beach Master Association, Inc.?
A. No. I -- as I have explained, I issued it per
instructions of the acting director or my supervisor.
Q. And that was who then?
A. At that time I believe it was Mr. Dick Clark.
Q. And had Mr. Dick Clark done some independent
investigation that is also reflected in this documentation?
A. I can't answer for Mr. Dick Clark.
Q. But as you said here today, you can't explain to this
board how the Lely Barefoot Beach Master Association, Inc., is
responsible for any of the violations that are inside this document,
can you?
A. I am not the attorney. I'm an investigator.
Q. I understand.
A. I gathered the information as I -- as I thought
appropriate from the planned unit development information available to
me. I've done my field work and the notices that are sent are very
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often -- the -- the violators are
Q. I'm hearing a little bit of "not my job." Is that what
we're getting to here?
A. No, sir, it is my job. As I told you, the owner of the
property came up on the deed as Lely Barefoot Beach Property Owners
Association. We -- I had said that we must cite them or made a
suggestion that they be cited. From that point on I did not design
this notice as to who it was to be sent to.
Q. Inspector Mazzone, you understand why it's important
that I'm asking you this question, don't you?
A. No, sir.
Q. Okay. Well, then let's clarify that. Let's look down
the column on the notice of ordinance violation and do you see the
part that says "penalties may be imposed"? "Failure to correct the
deficiencies on or before the date specified," it goes on and on and
on. It says, "if the code enforcement board finds a violation exists,
penalties up to the amount of $500 per day, or each day, each
violation exists beyond the date set for corrective action in this
notice may be imposed." You have placed the Lely Barefoot Beach
Master Association, Inc., on notice that they better get in here and
explain to this board how come they shouldn't have to pay a $500-a-day
fine, haven't you?
A. No, sir.
Q. You have not? Are you saying that the Lely Barefoot
Beach Master Association, Inc., is not potentially liable for up to
$500-a-day fine as a result of today's proceedings?
A. When I make out these -- any kind of paperwork or have a
part in the sending of the paperwork, I don't prejudge who's going to
be guilty of what. This is a hearing. This panel -- these are the
groups of people that determine if, in fact, there's a problem, how
the problem should be resolved, and if fines should be imposed. I
don't make that determination.
Q. I understand that. However, you did make the
determination of who should be brought in front of this board today,
didn't you?
A. No, sir.
Q. You signed the notice of violation that eventually wound
up calling the Lely Barefoot Beach Master Association in front of this
board, didn't you?
A. I am the investigator handling the case, sir. I sign
all the notices that go out under my name under my case.
MR. HAZZARD: Madam Chairman, at this point I would move
the board respectfully entertain a motion to dismiss all charges
against the Lely Barefoot Beach Master Association, Inc., since
Collier County is unable to tell what in the world they're doing on
this notice of violation. I don't know if that's the appropriate
time. I've not appeared in front of this board before, but it's
eminently clear that one of the two parties cited here has nothing
whatsoever to do with this notice of violation.
MR. BRYANT: Madam Chairman, I think that this is an
improper time to make that motion. I think those are issues of fact,
and I think the board needs to hear all the facts before making a
decision.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Is your motion based on the fact
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that you're telling this board that the Lely Barefoot Beach Master
Association, Inc., is not a violator?
MR. HAZZARD: I represent to this board that Collier
County is unable to tell this board how the Lely Barefoot Beach Master
Association, Inc., is a violator through the body of the code
enforcement investigator who supposedly did this investigation and has
spelled out to you all what the violation is.
MR. BRYANT: The county hasn't rested, Madam Chairman.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: I understand.
MR. HAZZARD: Is there a provision to move for a
directed verdict at the end of the county's case?
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: We will entertain any and all
motions that are made before this board. If you want to make the
motion now and you want to reinstate the motion at the end of the
county's case that's fine because we will entertain all your motions.
I think probably it's premature at this time. The county hasn't
rested. The county hasn't presented all of it's evidence. So we'll
just --
MR. HAZZARD: I'll withdraw it until the county's case
has rested.
BY MR. HAZZARD:
Q. Inspector Mazzone, it will make it difficult for me as
we go through this notice of violation if I don't understand going in
who the parties are, but for the sake of going through this violation,
at least my questions at this point will be addressed to the Lely
Barefoot Beach Property Owners Association's relationship to this
matter until it becomes clear to me how the master association is
involved in this notice of violation.
Let me ask you about a basic question. What is the
zoning for the piece of prpperty where the Lely Barefoot Beach
guardhouse that we're here about today is sitting?
A. That would be A.S.T., agricultural special treatment.
Q. Okay. I direct your attention, again, to the notice of
ordinance violation and the very first column. You see the part where
it says address of violation, street address and/or legal
description? The next words on the next line say "within Collier
County zoning district PUD 77-19(6)." Why doesn't that say within
Collier County zoning district A.S.T.?
A. I did not insert that on this notice of violation.
Q. Well, let me ask you this, Inspector Mazzone. If a piece
of property is zoned agricultural special treatment, can there
possibly be any violations of some other piece of property involved
here? This is a basic question. If it's in agricultural special
treatment, how come you're not telling my clients that in this notice
of violation?
A. We're telling whoever these notices went to that it is
within unit 1, tract R.
Q. Isn't it true that at the time this notice of violation
was prepared, Collier County thought that this guardhouse was zoned
within a PUD for Lely Barefoot Beach?
A. Who, specifically, are you speaking of in the county?
Q. Well, it's a little bit unclear to me. I thought you
were the investigator on this case and so at the point you prepared
this notice of violation, if you prepared it.
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A. Yes, continue.
Q. Yes, I was referencing -- you asked me for the person,
so I'm asking you is it your testimony that at the time this document
was prepared, you knew that this guardhouse was in land zoned
agricultural special treatment?
A. I knew that the guardhouse was located on tract R, unit
1.
Q. Does that mean your answer is no? You did not know it
was located on agricultural special treatment?
MR. BRYANT: Objection. It's argumentative. I think
the investigator has tried to answer the question. He said it was in
tract R, unit 1, and if you look at tract R, unit 1, that's where it
is.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Well--
MR. HAZZARD: Madam Chairman, clearly the notice of
violation says it's within Collier County zoning district PUD 77-19,
and what we've heard all morning so far is that it's not. And I just
can't understand how this notice of violation can put my clients on
notice of what the problem is if right off the bat what it says the
problem is isn't what the problem is.
THE WITNESS: May I respond to that?
MR. HAZZARD: I think there's an objection on the floor.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: There is an objection on the floor
that the question is argumentative, and I think that you can go ahead
and ask the question because, obviously, the rules of evidence are
rather relaxed here.
I think his question was at the time you wrote this --
and correct me if I'm wrong. At the time you wrote the notice of
ordinance violation, were you aware that this was zoned A.S.T.?
THE WITNESS: I don't recall, ma'am.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Okay.
BY MR. HAZZARD:
Q. Investigator Mazzone,
agricultural special treatment
violation and order to correct
A. No, sir.
Q. Why is that?
A. The -- the reference to PUD 77-19(6) has, as mentioned
before, is the PUD number assigned to the -- to the ordinance that was
adopted, and we make reference to that as a general location.
Q. SO are you telling me that it's not within Collier
County zoning district PUD 77-19 like it says on this form?
A. It is not within the boundaries of the PUD.
Q. Okay. It's not within the boundaries of the Audobon PUD
either, is it?
MR. BRYANT:
MR. HAZZARD:
a question.
But it is within the boundaries of unit 1, tract R.
And it's not within the boundaries of the WYndemere PUD,
Is it?
I didn't know if that was a serious question.
It's a very serious question.
No, it is not.
do the letters A.S.T. or the words
appear anywhere on the notice of
violation?
Argumentative.
Well, that's not argumentative; that's
just
A.
Q.
is it?
A.
Q.
A.
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Q. Well, let me ask you this. If a -- if a building
violates zoning code, does it violate the zoning code that applies to
the piece of ground where that building is sitting or does it violate
the zoning code that applies to the piece of ground down the street?
A. It violates the zoning code of the -- where it's
located, and also the people that had located it there have a
responsibility to -- having lived up to the ordinances and the codes.
Q. Who located it there?
A. The people that pulled the permit for it.
Q. Are any of those people cited in this notice of
violation?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Who?
A. Lely Development.
Q. I'm sorry. Where does this notice of violation cite
Lely Development?
A. I'm sorry. Lely Barefoot Beach Property Owners.
Q. Okay. I believe you've already admitted the building
permit application into evidence. It's behind page 4, tab 4. Do you
have it there in front of you?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Okay. Do you see either of these folks -- either of
these entities that are before you today? Do their names appear
anywhere on that? I want you to look at it carefully.
A. Lely Development -- they were the then owners of the
tract A that was -- that's in question where the original guardhouse
was located. They had pulled the original permit. Eighty-eight--
permit number 88-734. The construction of the guardhouse took place
within a tract that Lely Barefoot Beach Property Owners Association
owns, so we cited the property owners.
Q. And the master association?
A. And the master association.
Q. For reasons that remain unclear. Let me ask you this
question then, very basically, once again. If the zoning below the
land -- below the guardhouse is agricultural special treatment, why
isn't this notice of violation written up citing the zoning and
describing the zoning uses that are allowed within agricultural
special treatment? Why are we talking about a PUD at all?
A. It describes the land underneath the guardhouse that
we're discussing by making reference to unit 1, tract R roadway, and
the violations that we're citing are those in conflict with the PUD
regulations and master plan.
Q. For a piece of land that the guardhouse isn't on
according to the county's case; right?
A. For a piece of land that's being occupied by a
guardhouse that was constructed by Lely Development.
Q. What do you mean or what does Collier County mean when
it says in that line that the address of this violation is within
Collier County zoning district PUD 77-19? What does within mean?
A. please repeat that.
Q. I'm talking about within. I simply pointed out to
Mr. Mazzone the place on the page that I'm talking about.
-- my question is what does within mean in that sentence,
of the violation within Collier County zoning district PUD
I'm talking
the address
77-19,
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parentheses, 6, close parentheses. What's within mean?
A. If it continues -- it also specifies Section 6, tract R,
unit 1.
Q. Yes. Yes.
A. It continues. It doesn't stop at 77-19(6). There is a
continuation of the legal description.
Q. SO is it within the PUD or not?
A. It is not.
Q. Even though it says within Collier County zoning
district PUD, et cetera. I don't want to repeat myself too much.
Even though it says it, it's not, right? Is that your point?
A. It is not within the PUD.
Q. And at the time this was prepared, you knew that?
A. I don't recall at the very moment I prepared this if I
was thinking of the A.S.T. zoning classification for that particular
section of road or not.
Q. Okay. It certainly doesn't say it's within Collier
County zoning district A.S.T., does it?
A. It does not.
Q. Okay. And, Inspector Mazzone, as part of the documents
that have been entered into today, there's something called a
statement of violation and request for hearing. There's also
something called affidavit of violation. Both of those bear your
signature and they were notarized. Are you familiar with those two
documents?
A. I would have to look at them, sir.
Q. Okay. We can provide those out of the exhibits.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: They're behind tab 1, and the
affidavit is the third page behind tab 1.
MR. HAZZARD: I thought -- would you just hand them to
me so I can see them? Just--
BY MR. HAZZARD:
Q. Let's talk about the statement of violation and request
for hearing. What does it mean when you put your signature on the
bottom and on the second page where it says sworn to and subscribed
before me? What did you swear to when you filled this out when you
signed it?
A. This is sent by the code enforcement board coordinator.
Q. I'm not asking who sent it. I'm asking what did you
swear to.
A. I signed that I am the investigator on this case and
that the materials involved in this case are is that which I have
-- had taken part in obtaining.
Q. When you swear to this, aren't you swearing that you
know what's going on in this case and you know why the notice of
violation is being issued?
A. I do know what's going on in this case, and I do feel as
though I know why the violation was being issued, yes.
Q. Okay. Now, how about the affidavit of violation on the
next page? It's also sworn and subscribed to before a notary, is it
not?
A.
Q.
the Lely
Correct.
And you have sworn on that affidavit of violation that
Barefoot Beach Property Owners Association, Inc., and the
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Lely Barefoot Beach Master Association, Inc., are responsible for
these various violations, have you not?
A. Correct.
Q. Now, earlier you couldn't explain to me how the Lely
Barefoot Beach Master Association, Inc., was responsible, could you?
A. My signature confirms that the information that was
provided on the notice of violation and within the packets that were
sent out is information that I'm familiar with.
Q. Exactly. Let's go just one more minute on why this says
it's within Collier County zoning district PUD, et cetera, et cetera.
I want to make sure that I understand completely. Your testimony is
that it's in agricultural special treatment; correct?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Okay. And then as a result of that, you went on to
describe all these various problems with it being in the PUD that
it violates the PUD for; correct?
A. It does violate the PUD, sir. But -- this -- in that
it does violate the PUD doesn't mean it's within the PUD. It violates
the regulations that -- that -- in the guidelines for the development
of the PUD.
Q. Does it violate zoning for agricultural special
treatment?
A. I would imagine that it does.
Q. You would imagine that it does? Does agricultural
special treatment allow you to have a road?
A. I can't answer that at this time.
Q. You have no clue?
MR. BRYANT: Objection. I believe that counsel is being
argumentative with this witness every time he says you have no clue.
I think that's improper cross-examination.
MR. HAZZARD: I'll withdraw the question.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Thank you.
BY MR. HAZZARD:
Q. Inspector Mazzone, if there was a violation at my house
-- I live in Berkshire Lakes, and please don't come inspect. But if
there was a violation at my house in Berkshire Lakes, would you look
at the zoning for Berkshire Lakes to determine the violatioh?
A. It would be one of the factors, yes, sir.
Q. Would you look at the zoning for the neighborhood across
the street from mine to determine the violation?
A. It may be another factor.
Q. It would be? How could my house in Berkshire Lakes
possibly violate zoning for the neighborhood across the street from
mine?
A. It depends on your violation, sir.
Q. SO it's your statement to this board that the zoning
territory is not exclusive, that the zoning regulations for a
particularly zoned property can extend over the boundaries of that
particularly zoned property?
A. No. That's your statement, sir. That is not my
understanding.
Q. I'm just trying to understand what your understanding
is. Can you explain to me how the zoning for the Barefoot Beach PUD
right here on the county's own exhibit pertains at all to a piece of
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land that is not zoned PUD according to your testimony?
A. Again, when we cited the registered agents, we mention
the entire tract R, unit 1, which runs through the particular section
of road that is zoned A.S.T.
Q. SO the way you view this, tract R is kind of part of
this PUD for these purposes?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Okay. Let's talk about the way --
MR. HAZZARD: Madam Chairman, what kind of lunch break
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: I felt we might have one.
MR. HAZZARD: Why don't we do it now?
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Let me ask you this, Mr. Hazzard.
How much longer do you think your cross-examination of this witness
might go?
MR. HAZZARD: I think it could go an hour.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Okay. Then it's probably a good
time for a break and I think -- if I'm anticipating your next
question, it's one of the questions that I was going to try to resolve
here before we take a break, and that is this: Simply because it
means that probably some witnesses that have left may have to come
back.
Mr. Bryant, you introduced into evidence the notice of
violation and elicited some testimony from Mr. Mazzone in regard to
the fact that Ms. Wiseman and Mr. Carroll had signed in both places
including a stipulation. Is it your intent to present to this board
that stipulation as some evidence that they have admitted to the
violation, because if the answer to that question is yes, obviously,
Mr. Hazzard is going to have to get those witnesses back here.
MR. BRYANT: I would submit to the board that the
signature on the stipulation speaks for itself. I have Miss Wiseman's
deposition that I plan on entering into evidence. I don't know if he
thinks he needs additional testimony from her or not.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Okay.
MR. BRYANT: That's as open and fair as I can be about
it.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: I appreciate that. I saw them both
leave and spoke to them. I actually don't know Mr. Carroll, but I saw
Ms. Wiseman leave, and so I just kind of wanted to be sure that I
hadn't misled her when I told her good-bye. That would be up to
Mr. Hazzard to do that -- make his case, however.
Okay. Well, I wanted to be sure that the court reporter
marks -- when we leave here the first book as respondents' Exhibit 1
and the second bound book as respondents' Exhibit 2 because, like I
said, we didn't give her a chance to do that.
So what I think we'll do is we'll take a lunch break. I
think it's five minutes after. Is that what that says?
MR. HAZZARD: I think it says about 15 after -- 12
after.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Twelve after. Let's come back at
1:15. Okay. The code enforcement board will be in recess until 1:15.
(Defendants' Exhibit Nos. 1 and 2 were marked for
identification.)
(A lunch break was held from 12:12 p.m. To 1:20 p.m.)
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CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: The Collier County Code Enforcement"
Board will be back in session.
MR. BRYANT: If I might bring up one housekeeping
matter, I know Mr. Allen has a schedule to maintain and has to be out
of here at a certain time.
I just wanted to know, do you have to be out of here at
exactly three or is there any kind of wiggle room with that? If you
do I understand that.
MR. ALLEN: I've got about 15 minutes, realistically.
MR. BRYANT: Because I've got one witness that I want to
put on today that I don't want to have to bring back. And I didn't
want to call him out of order but I would to accommodate Mr. Allen and
everyone's schedule.
MR. ANDREWS: Okay. Thank you.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: We appreciate that.
MR. ANDREWS: Very nice of you.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Well, let's see. Let's let the
record reflect that Miss Reinman (phonetic) has joined counsel table.
Nice to see you. I think that we were in the middle of your
cross-examination, Mr. Hazzard, of Mr. Mazzone. So you may continue.
BY MR. HAZ ZARD :
Q. Mr. Mazzone, would you please take a look at the
building permit application that you were describing earlier, and I
believe that is found behind tab 4 in the notebooks we provided.
Mr. Mazzone, prior to the break when you were discussing this, I think
it's probably a little difficult for the panel to follow because they
didn't have a copy of the application in front of them at the time.
You mentioned where this guardhouse building was located, and as I
recall -- and I may be wrong. I don't think you read quite the entire
sum of what's written in the place that says complete description.
Would you note what was given as the complete description for where
that guardhouse was to be located? I'm talking on the building permit
application.
A. On the permit application for permit No. 88-734 under
the heading of complete description it states, "Lely Barefoot Beach as
per plan, 70 feet south of Bonita Beach Road on center line of Lely
Beach Boulevard."
Q. I'm not sure we heard the part about on center line of
Lely Beach Boulevard earlier. Cline -- C, slash, line means center
line; is that correct?
A. Very often, sir.
Q. Okay. And is that, in fact -- is it true that the
guardhouse today is built on the center line of Lely Beach Boulevard?
What we're talking about today is -- I -- it's in the middle of the
road; right?
A. Not being a surveyor it does appear as though it is in
the center of the road, yes, sir.
Q. Okay. Now, what's that as per plan mean?
A. It normally makes reference to the fact that there was a
plan that accompanied this permit.
Q. And could there be a plan that's submitted and then
perhaps revised and things like that? Plans go back and forth, and
then a final plan is developed, or how does that work? Or is it just
a plan submitted initially? How does it work?
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A. A plan is normally submitted, initially. If there's
reason to revise it, it may be revised.
Q. Okay. And in your review of this situation, did you
find some plan in the county records?
A. I found some drawings, yes, sir.
Q. Drawings. And are they part of that composite exhibit?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Okay. And I believe for the board's benefit it's behind
tab No.5, but I'd just like you to -- if you can look at the exhibit
that you have in your hand and find what you've described as the
plan.
A. I didn't describe it as the plan, sir.
Q. Could you find the drawings? I think -- what was the
word you used -- drawings that are attached or that you found in the
county records relative to this? Did you say drawings?
A. Right. Uh-huh.
Q. Does it look a little bit like this? This is simply a
blowup of what's in your book 5 for everybody to see.
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Inspector Mazzone, directing your attention to this,
does this have the word guardhouse in great big letters with an arrow
pointed to it showing a square in the middle of the road?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And what's it call this thing off to the side of the
road that Mr. Bryant has been calling the -- I think you've been
calling the original guardhouse. What's it call it on the plan?
A. On this particular drawing it is referred to as Lely
Barefoot Beach gatehouse.
Q. Does that language Lely Barefoot Beach gatehouse sound
familiar to you based on your reading of the PUD ordinance? Are there
references to gatehouse complex site in the PUD ordinance?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Are there any references whatsoever in the PUD ordinance
that call what you've been calling the old guardhouse today a
guardhouse, any references at all in the PUD ordinance that call that
site a guardhouse?
A. I don't recall, sir. I believe it's only referred to as
a gatehouse as it's noted here.
Q. If I said to you that historically the folks at Barefoot
Beach and the folks at Lely Development have referred to that as the
gatehouse and the thing in the middle of the road as the guardhouse,
would you have any document you could point to to dispute that?
A. No, sir.
Q. Okay. Well, then why are you calling the thing a
guardhouse today?
A. Calling which a guardhouse, sir?
Q. Calling the thing that you've been referring to as the
guardhouse. The thing at the side of the road. If all the documents
-- everything you've seen calls it a gatehouse, how come you keep
calling it a guardhouse?
A. I think we're speaking semantics here, but the facility
was used for the same purpose, I believe, at one time in the past.
Q. Who'd you talk to that told you that?
A. It was the PUD that addresses the location of this
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gatehouse or guardhouse.
Q. Okay. Have you ever seen this picture before? It's
laying over here on the side of the county commission chambers.
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Okay. What's this a picture of? Do you have any idea?
Do you know what that's a picture of?
MR. BRYANT: If it please the board, I'd stipulate that
into evidence.
MR. HAZZARD: Great.
Q. What's this a picture of?
A. That appears to be a photograph -- an aerial photograph
of the rectangle that's denoted on this plan as a Lely Barefoot Beach
gatehouse.
Q. Okay. Isn't there something else in that picture? I
want you to look at it real closely.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Before we do that why don't we mark
that for identification purposes? We won't take that, however.
Apparently it belongs in this room. But for the record's purposes we
need to mark that as respondents' Exhibit 3.
MR. BRYANT: May it please the board, that's my exhibit,
and I was intending on introducing it and that's why I brought it
today. But I appreciate Mr. Hazzard sharing that with us.
MR. HAZZARD: I thought the county commission kept this
as a memento of the case.
MR. BRYANT: No, memorial. I would submit that that
should be admitted as the next number --
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: .I think it's 15.
MR. BRYANT: Either 15 or 16.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Let us then -- since we've
obviously agreed to introduce this, let us then have this be marked
and introduced into evidence as county's Exhibit No. 15.
MR. BRYANT: And then I would like to substitute a copy
of that.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Good idea. It's kind of cumbersome
for the file. Mr. Hazzard, if you'd let the court reporter -- well,
maybe she can mark the photograph. Do you have one with you?
MR. BRYANT: You can mark the back of it.
(Plaintiff's Exhibit No. 15 was marked for
identification.)
BY MR. HAZZARD:
Q. Inspector Mazzone, this looks like a real old picture of
the Lely Barefoot Beach subdivision. Is that what you understand it
to be?
A. I can't vouch for it's age.
Q. Okay. There's a lot of houses and things like that
there now; right?
A. That's correct.
Q. You've -- you've -- you've not seen in your lifetime the
Barefoot Beach subdivision looking quite like this, have you?
A. Yes, I have, sir.
Q. Oh, you have. Okay. Well, good. What is that little
splotch in the middle of the road?
A. Which one are you referring to? That looks like a
guardhouse or gatehouse facility, a housing facility of some sort.
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Q.
live in?
A. No, I don't, sir.
Q. That's a guardhouse; isn't it?
A. It would appear to be.
Q. When I'm talking about the old guardhouse, I'm talking
about the thing sitting in the middle of the road just like it says on
this plan that's sitting in the county's records. See how that says
existing guardhouse?
A. That's what the plan reads, yes.
Q. SO all this stuff calling that building in tract A the
old guardhouse, that's a ruse; isn't it? Nobody's ever called it
that, have they?
A. I would not call it a ruse, sir. I would call it
documented on the PUD and something that's to be taken very seriously.
Q. I'm sorry. I thought that earlier you had said the word
guardhouse is not mentioned at all within the PUD.
A. Gatehouse, guardhouse.
Q. Okay. Well, it's very important that this
understand that we're not talking about some piece
in tract A with a 2-inch overhang into the road.
guardhouse is something that goes in the middle of
what you understand a guardhouse to be?
A. No, sir.
Q. That's not what you understand? Well, that's fine.
Okay. Let's keep looking at the application for building permit.
It's behind tab 4. There's not a choice -- where it says type of
structure, about rnidpage, circle one. There's not a choice for
guardhouse or gatehouse, is there?
A. One moment, please. No, sir.
Q. SO miscellaneous is circled and you don't find any fault
with that, do you?
A. No, sir. I'm not making a judgment on this form. I'm
not qualified to do that.
Q. Oh, I thought one of the reasons for issuing this notice
of violation was because there were problems with this application for
a building permit?
A. That's correct.
Q. And you're not the one who decided that?
A. I'm not the one that made out this form.
Q. Oh, I understand you're not the one who made out the
form. You're the one who reviewed the form and analyzed the form
and
decided that somehow it relates to this notice of violation; is that
correct?
A. That's correct, sir.
Q. Okay. And right in the middle of the page where it says
construction, I think earlier your testimony was that they applied for
an addition; is that right?
A. Correct.
Q. And it very clearly shows the word addition is circled;
right?
A.
Q.
You don't think that's a house big enough for people to
panel
of property sitting
We're talking a
the road. Is that
That's correct.
What's that splotch over to the left?
It looks on my
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copy like perhaps underneath some scribbling is the word new. What's
it look like on yours?
A. It appears as though it's a circle that's been crossed
out, sir.
Q. Who crossed it out?
A. I do not know.
Q. Is it possible that when the builder brought in the
application for a building permit the builder had circled new and a
person in Collier County said -- a person employed by Collier County
said, after looking at this plan, no, that's an addition, cross out
new, circle addition?
A. I can't answer that.
MR. BRYANT: Objection. That's total speculation.
There's no way this witness can answer that question. I was making an
objection, Mr. Hazzard.
MR. HAZZARD: Excuse me for stepping on Mr. Bryant's
feelings.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Here's
that. Anything is possible, and
possible? Anything is possible.
question.
BY MR. HAZZARD:
Q. SO is your answer
to tell me, no, that's not
A. I'm saying that I
circled that.
Q. Do you know who circled it?
A. No, I do not, sir.
Q. Did you make any effort whatsoever to talk to anybody
within the department that accepts building permit applications to
determine whether they may have circled addition or told somebody to
cross out new and circle addition?
A. I don't know anybody in the department that's still
there from 1988, sir.
Q. SO looking at this you assumed that this was the
builder's error; correct?
A. I didn't make any assumptions, sir.
Q. Well, you testified earlier that the builder applied for
a permit calling it an addition, and you had extensive testimony that
an addition, in your mind, would have been something different than
what was built; correct?
A. That's correct.
Q. But you made no effort whatsoever to determine, in fact,
whether the builder circled addition; right?
A. No, I made no effort.
Q. Made no effort, you simply assumed that the builder had
done it; right?
A. No, I didn't assume it.
Q. You didn't assume it. Okay. That's fine. In the
course of your extensive investigation, did you determine whether a
building permit was actually issued for this structure?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Was it issued?
A. Yes, sir.
what I would comment on
so I guess the question, Is it
So let's move on to the next
anything is possible or were you about
possible?
can't speak for the person that
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Q.
A.
Q.
the day
A.
Q.
4-7-88
A. Excuse me. It was issued on 4-11.
Q. SO it was approved on 4-7, issued on 4-11.
A. Yes, sir.
Q. What went on in the interim?
A. I couldn't tell you, sir.
Q. Has it been your experience in Collier County that
somebody walks in, hands in a building permit application, and a
little over a month later out comes a permit?
A. Sometimes, sir, yes.
Q. And do you have any idea whatsoever what might account
for that time lag in between?
A. Many things could account for it, but I'm not in the
that part of the operation.
Q. Okay. But eventually a permit was issued; correct?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Okay. I believe included within the documentation that
is part of that exhibit are some internal county documents. They
appear to be internal county documents. Maybe you can tell me what
they are. If you don't mind I'll just point you right to the one I'm
talking about. This is the one, two, three, four, fifth page of
what's been marked as the county's Exhibit 7. And, I believe, for the
board's convenience I'll direct you in just a second to where that
is. It's behind tab 4. It's the page immediately behind the
application for building permit.
Inspector Mazzone, can you tell this panel what that
document is?
A. It's a building permit application.
Q. That's the building permit application. Does the
builder fill that out or is that something that the Collier County
department assembles?
A. I don't know who filled this out, sir. I'm not part of
that operation.
Q. Okay. Midway down the page there's a line across it.
Below that it says zoning, something about please, please, please do
this, return to zoning. You think the builder would have put that on
there?
A.
have
Q.
When was it issued?
On the date 3-3-88.
Are you sure about that?
you apply for it?
Bear with me. It was approved on
Do you have any idea what went on
You can get a building permit
4-7-88.
between 3-3-88 and
Sir, the page you've turned to in my document does not
that writing on it.
Inspector, I stand corrected.
MR. HAZZARD: David, do you recognize that, because
apparently this doesn't exactly match the document that's been
introduced into evidence? Do you recognize that from our discovery?
MR. BRYANT: I recognize the document I've admitted into
evidence.
MR. HAZZARD: Okay.
BY MR. HAZZARD:
Q. Inspector Mazzone, I'm going to show you a document. and
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ask you whether you've ever seen that before. Have you ever seen that
before?
A.
Q.
County?
A. I believe I have when I've gone through these documents.
Q. It, in fact, came from the Collier County file in this
matter; is that correct?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. There's a small notation on the one that's in your hand
and that's in the panel's book that says Plaintiff's Exhibit No.5,
2-27-96, Mazzone. You see that little sticky kind of in the side
there, to the right-hand side?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Do you recall how that sticky got on there or what that
signifies?
A. I believe when we discussed this in your office at one
time, sir, this became part of the --
Q. -- deposition?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. This was an exhibit through your deposition in a court
case?
A.
Q.
land is
A.
Q.
A.
Q.
right?
A. That's what it says, yes, sir.
Q. Okay. On the line immediately below that what's it say?
A. .Approved by.
Q. And then?
A. What appears to be the letter N, and what appears to be
the letter R.
Q. What do those letters mean? Do you have any idea?
A. I don't know, sir.
Q. Could they be somebody's initials?
MR. BRYANT: Objection. Speculation.
A. I don't know, sir.
Q. Okay. Do they stand for not required?
A. I don't work in this department, sir. I don't know what
these initials mean.
Q. As far as you know, to get a building permit in Collier
County as of as least 1988, was zoning approval required?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. But you wouldn't want to speculate as to what N.R. means
on that block, would you?
A. No, sir.
Q. Okay. Even though next to it there appears to be some
sort of notation please, please, please do this, return to zoning;
right?
A.
July 25, 1996
Yes, sir, a copy of this. Yes, sir.
Have you ever seen it within the records of Collier
Yes, sir.
Okay. Would you tell me what this says
zoned where the guardhouse is located?
This indicates that land is zoned PUD.
Do you have any idea who wrote that?
No, sir.
It pretty clearly says the proposed use
about how the
is guardhouse,
I see the notation, sir, yes.
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Q. Okay. Anyway, we don't quite know or you can't testify
with any firsthand knowledge what went on between March the 3rd of '88
and the date this permit was issued; correct?
A. That's correct.
Q. But a permit was issued; correct?
A. That's correct.
Q. Okay. And after the permit was issued, did your
investigation detail for you whether or not there were interim
building inspections along the way?
A. Repeat that, please.
Q. Yes. After the permit was issued -- let me back up.
After the permit was issued construction started; right?
A. I would imagine so.
Q. Yes, I would too. It's there today; correct?
A. That's correct.
Q. Somebody must have built it; correct?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. SO it must have started -- you're not accusing them of
starting construction before they got a permit, are you?
A. I'm not accusing them of that, no.
Q. Good. So somebody built it; right?
A. Apparently, yes, sir.
Q. Okay. In the course of building something in Collier
County, are there interim inspections along the way?
A. Normally as a course of action, yes, sir.
Q. And, in fact, during your investigation did you find
some Collier County internal documents that indicate various
inspections that went on with this property? And for the panel's
information, I'm now behind tab 7 in the book.
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Let me see what you're looking at, if I might, I've now
pointed to the second page of the county's exhibit that's in front of
you and it's the -- Exhibit No.7. What's that document that's the
second page of Exhibit No.7?
A. It appears to be a record of inspections, sir.
Q. Okay. And, in fact, as you look down there, isn't there
a column that says date passed? You see the date-passed column?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Okay. And there is some dates in that column; correct?
A. That's correct.
Q. What would that indicate to you?
A. It appears as though an inspection was made on a
particular date at a particular time by a person and that it had
passed.
Q. Okay. I'm not asking you to speculate on anything
that's too strange here, am I? That's how it appears?
A. No, sir, it does appear to be.
Q. And at the end of this series of inspections -- does
anything happen after all these inspections are done? Does the county
do some final act after all these inspections are done?
A. Historically.
Q. And what would that be?
A. "C.O.'ing" whatever is approved.
Q. What does "C.O.'ing" mean?
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A. Certificate of occupancy.
Q. What does it mean to get a certificate of occupancy?
A. I would imagine that the inspections pass and that it is
-- the -- the structure is able to be occupied.
Q. Okay. Would you turn the page on your exhibit. You
don't need to turn the page. It's -- on this particular exhibit it's
copied on the bottom of the page; correct? There's a document the
heading of which appears to say inspection report, and it's behind tab
8 in your books.
Are those -- is that inspection report on the -- in the
records of Collier County, does that inspection report come right at
the bottom of that document that's at the top of it, or has somebody
put that on there in copying?
A. It would appear as though it was placed there for copy
purposes.
Q. Okay. And that inspection report that you see there
you've encountered that before during your investigation of this
matter; correct?
A. I've seen this particular report, yes, sir.
Q. Found it within the records of Collier County?
A. Correct.
Q. What is it?
A. Pardon?
Q. What is it?
A. What is what, sir?
Q. What is that thing at the bottom of that page that says
inspection report?
A. I would imagine it's just what it says it is, an
inspection report.
Q. What's it used for?
A. Here, again, we no longer use this particular report. I
can only surmise that this was then used for an indication that
certain phases of this project were passed or not passed by people
inspecting.
Q. Okay. And what does this particular inspection report
indicate in terms of whether certain phases of this project were
passed or not passed by the person inspecting it?
A. I see checkrnarks indicating inspections passed.
Q. Okay. Do you see a checkrnarks indicating zoning
inspection passed?
A. I do. .
Q. And this has a date on it of 6-13-88; is that correct?
A. 6-10 shows on the top of it. 6-13 shows time ready.
Q. You see date of inspection underneath what appears to be
a signature?
A. Yes, sir, that does show 6-13.
Q. '88?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And what date was the certificate of occupancy issued by
Collier County for this building?
A. 6-14-88.
Q. SO this is the final inspection report everything's
a-okay, we're gonna give you a C.O. right?
A. It appears to be that, sir;
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Q. Okay. Is this building that we're here talking about
today in the same spot that it was in on 6-13-88, as far as you know?
A. I didn't inspect it in 1988, but it would appear as
though it was not moved.
Q. You don't have anything to indicate at all, do you, that
this thing moved since June the 13th of '88, do you?
A. That's correct.
Q. And you're not alleging in that notice of violation that
they had this thing in one place and then they dragged it into some
other place, are you?
A. No, sir, I'm not.
Q. It would be a little hard to drag this structure without
anybody noticing, wouldn't it?
A. No, sir, it wouldn't be.
Q. Wouldn't be hard? Okay. Well, maybe it got dragged.
Let's move on.
You said earlier -- oh, let's go back. Mr. Allen had a
question earlier concerning the -- when there was a surveyor up here
concerning the plans that were submitted and -- versus where the
guardhouse is actually in existence today. Do you recall him asking
the surveyor and the surveyor couldn't -- couldn't quite answer the
question. Do you recall the question from the panel from Mr. Allen
earlier? You don't recall?
A. Could it be repeated? I don't recall it verbatim, no.
MR. HAZZARD: Mr. Allen, would you like to ask that
question about whether the --
MR. ALLEN: I asked the question is the guardhouse in
the location where it was permitted.
MR. HAZZARD: Well, I thought the question was is it in
the location that the plans showed that it was going, but let me just
ask that question.
BY MR. HAZZARD:
Q. Is the guardhouse in the location where this plan that's
in the Collier County records showed it was going to be?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. All right. I recognize we haven't done a survey, and we
haven't exactly measured it out, but it's close at least; right?
A. It appears so.
Q. From your visits to the guardhouse, is it somewhat south
of this entryway to the Collier County parking lot?
A. That's correct.
Q. And this document that I'm holding in my hand has a
notation that looks like a measurement to me that says 20 feet?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. SO this thing is where they said they were going to put
it; right?
A. Who's they?
Q. The person who brought this plan into Collier County,
got the building permit approved, and all that other kind of stuff
we've been talking about.
A. No, sir, it is not.
Q. It's not,where they said it was going to be on this --
on this plan?
A. On that plan, yes, sir. Not on the permit.
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Q. There's a discrepancy between the building permit
application and where it actually is; right?
A. That's correct, sir.
Q. And the discrepancy is that the building permit
application says 70 feet south, and this is 200-something feet south
of Bonita Beach Road; right?
A. That's merely one point made on the building
application. The others -- job address, the existing electric, the
addition, those are all references to a tract A location~
Q. I'm glad you reminded me about existing electric. Have
you ever encountered a situation where during the course of building
plans change?
A. I am not in the building department, sir, but yes, on a
personal basis, I have.
Q. I'll ask somebody else at another time for more details
about that. When Mr. Bryant was examining you, you told him that when
you went out and took those photographs in October of 1994 that there
was one arm -- gate arm up and one gate arm down; correct?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And you were unable to explain why that might be,
correct?
A.
Q.
Barefoot
A.
That's correct.
Okay. But you've thoroughly read the PUD for Lely
Beach, haven't you?
I have read the PUD, yes, sir.
MR. HAZZARD: And for the benefit of the panel, the
entire document appears behind tab 12 in your books.
Q. Do you have the PUD document over there?
A. Which document?
Q. The PUD current amended version 88-63.
A. I have 85-83.
Q. Well, let's see if it's got the same thing in it. Has
it got a page 64 in it?
A. Yes,' sir.
Q. Well, let's see if your page 64 is the same as my page
64. Can you turn to page 64, please?
A. I'm there, sir.
Q. Okay. Does your second paragraph up from the bottom of
the page -- does the one you're looking at like the one I'm looking at
sayan extra travel lane shall be constructed by the developer at the
entry gate permitting security checks without blocking traffic flow?
A. Correct, sir.
Q. Well, perhaps that wasn't fresh in your mind when
Mr. Bryant asked you the question this morning why would one gate be
up and one gate be down. Can you now having read and refreshed your
memory about what's in the PUD render a guess as to why one gate might
be up and one gate might be down?
A. I don't know the operation of the gate, sir.
Q. It's allowed by the PUD ordinance; isn't it?
A. There is an allowance for that, yes.
Q. So all that discussion about one gate's up and one
gate's down and that's blocking traffic, that's exactly what the one
gate down's supposed to do in the PUD ordinance; isn't it?
A. The reference in this PUD ordinance is in reference to
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the gate located an. tract A, sir, not tract R.
Q. What gate located on tract A?
A. Your -- your guardhouse or gatehouse.
Q. Let me ask you this. Is this page 64 a part of the PUD
ordinance that refers to tract A?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. It is? Back up two pages to page 62. What section is
that?
A. It's project project improvements.
Q. Okay. Back up to page 15. What section is that?
A. That would be Section 4.2(A), uses permitted.
Q. Okay. "Tract A gatehouse complex site" is what it says
at the top of my page; right?
A. That's correct, sir.
Q. Okay. Are you telling me that the item that's on page
64 second paragraph from the bottom that says, "an extra travel lane
shall be constructed at the entry gate," et cetera, affects tract A
only?
A. I would believe so, sir.
Q. v',lhy?
A. That's what this PUD is written for, tract A. Where--
we're not speculating on another PUD, are we?
Q. No. No. Unless 77-19 or one of those other PUD numbers
we were talking about this morning comes into play. I'm asking you
does this reference that says the developer can put an entry gate and
construct an extra travel lane and put an entry gate and that would
permit security checks without blocking traffic flow, I'm asking you
whether this provision is in any way tied to any tract within the
Barefoot Beach PUD.
A. Yes, sir.
Q. How? Where do you see that in the PUD ordinance?
A. Section 4.
Q. Okay. Back to Section 4.
A. Platted Lely Barefoot Beach, unit 1, tract A of
gatehouse complex site.
Q. SO is it your testimony -- let me make sure I understand
it. If the guardhouse that we're talking about today -- strike let
me start over.
If there were a gate south of the site where the gate is
now within the confines of what you claim is the Barefoot Beach PUD --
there was a gate here. Could my clients stop traffic like it says in
the PUD they can?
A. You mean if there was an extension from the --.
Q. I don't care where it hangs from. If you say it's got
to hang off the thing, it hangs off the thing. Any way you want to
conceive it. How can my clients do what it says they can do on page
64? Explain it to me.
A. On page 63 it makes mention of roads and drives under C.
Q. They need to do it on a road if they're going to stop
traffic. You agree?
A. Correct.
Q. Okay. So is there --
A. It makes reference to the main north-south road which is
the very same road areas we're speaking of.
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Q. Lely Beach Boulevard. Right there's where they'd want
to stop it because that's where people are coming in?
MR. BRYANT: Your Honor, I'd have to object and ask that
the witness be allowed to answer the question without commentary while
he's trying to answer it.
MR. HAZZARD: I'd love for the witness to answer.
MR. BRYANT: I realize he is trying to help him, but I
would rather hear it from the witness.
MR. HAZZARD: I would, too.
BY MR. HAZZARD:
Q. Please explain to me where my clients -- in your
opinion, where can my clients put a gate permitting security checks
without blocking traffic flow?
A. They would have to come up with that answer. I am not a
builder, sir.
Q. Okay. We're going to play -- well, next week we'll take
this one down from here, and we'll put it down there, and we'll see if
Mazzone likes it, and if he cites us, then we'll take it down from
there, and we'll put it over in this other spot?
A. I beg your pardon. I have never expressed a personal
opinion on this gate.
Q. What is your personal opinion?
A. I don't have one, sir.
Q. You're just doing what you're told; right?
A. No , sir.
Q. You're not doing what you're told?
A. I'm doing my job as it is expected of me.
Q. Part of your job as a helpful Collier County building
inspector -- is part of your job to keep people from getting into
trouble on zoning issues?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Could somebody call you up and say, gee, I'm thinking
about doing this, would that be all right? Can you tell me? Could it
go here?
A. That very often happens.
Q. That very often happens. Well, I'm asking you. Can you
tell me, where could we put this gate?
A. I would refer you to the planners.
Q. Okay. Okay. But it's pretty clear, according to this
PUD, that my clients are allowed -- according to the county commission
that passed this PUD, my clients are allowed to have security checks
without blocking traffic flow; right?
A. That's correct, sir.
Q. And when I read it this -- and, you know, I can tell --
sometimes my reading of this is different than your reading of this.
This to me says you got two lanes coming in. You can have a gate over
one, and people can stop, and you can check who they are, and no gate
over the other and people just go on by, and they're not being
blocked. Is that how you read it?
A. No, sir.
Q. Oh, okay. Now, let's talk about how you determined that
this violation exists. You went out to Barefoot Beach; right?
A. I did, sir.
Q. When was that?
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A. After looking at the PUD documents and the maps and the
permit and the other items we've discussed here today.
Q. Okay. And let's back up. What prompted you? What was
the first -- first thing that prompted you to begin this
investigation?
A. I was -- I was requested to enter into the
investigation.
Q. By whom?
A. By the acting director.
Q. Okay. That was Mr. Clark you referred to earlier?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Okay. Did Mr. Clark say Mr. -- or words to this effect,
because I know this isn't a quote. Did he say, Inspector Mazzone,
would you go check this out? Or did he tell you there's a problem out
there, go write it up? Or what did he tell you? What was the nature
of it?
A. The case was an ongoing case, sir. I came in towards
the beginning stages of it or towards the middle of it. It's been an
ongoing case, and I was asked to do some further research into it.
Q. Okay. And you went out, and you took those pictures
that we've seen; correct?
A. That's correct.
Q. Okay. And you testified earlier that folks are being
stopped at the gate -- at the guardhouse, being stopped or stopping,
or is there a difference?
A. You tell -- I don't remember how I testified to that.
Perhaps you can --
Q. I'll ask it again. What's your recollection of what was
going on?
A. Vehicles were stopped at the gate.
Q. Vehicles were stopped. When you say vehicles were
stopped, do you mean vehicles were stopped by someone or vehicles were
stopped like that car is stopped right now?
A. The stopping of the vehicle -- I wasn't manning the
gate. I don't know how the stopping of the vehicle occurred.
Q. Okay. Did you ever talk to any of the people who were
driving the vehicles that you saw?
A. No, sir.
Q. Do you know where they were going?
A. No, sir.
Q. You testified earlier that there's an easement that says
you have unrestricted access to the beach and that this stopping or
vehicles stopping interferes with that easement; is that correct?
A. That's correct.
Q. Any of those people going to the Beach that you saw?
A. I don't know, sir.
Q. Well, then how can you charge us with this violation if
you don't know whether those people were going to the beach?
A. = also don't know if they weren't going to the beach.
They might have been.
Q. Let me ask you this. Do people have a right, as they're
driving down Lely Beach Boulevard, to stop their car and say hello to
the attendant in the guardhouse?
A. I'm nobody to question people's rights, sir.
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Q. No Collier County ordinance prohibits somebody from
stopping at this guardhouse and saying hello to the attendant, does
it? We haven't gotten to that stage, have we?
A. No, sir.
Q. Okay. Similarly, no Collier County ordinance prohibits
anybody from stopping and saying, you know, oh, where's the restroom,
can you give me some directions to the park, how you doing, any of
that kind of stuff, is there?
A. No, sir.
Q. And people who live within Lely Barefoot Beach, they're
allowed to stop at that guardhouse, aren't they?
A. The people that live in Lely Barefoot Beach would also
be allowed to stop if they were going to the right location -- the
correct location, which would be tract A.
Q. Okay. So -- so you don't have any idea of all the
people you observed whether they were residents of Lely Barefoot
Beach, do you?
A. No, I don't.
Q. You assumed that they weren't, though, didn't you?
A. I didn't assume anything, sir.
Q. Well, you said that this is blocking their access to
this blocking their use of this easement, this unrestricted
easement to get to the county park. Wouldn't you have to be going to
the county park to have that easement come into play?
A. You could go home first to put on your bathing suit and
then go to the park, sir.
Q. Well, can people who live in Barefoot Beach ask the
guard -- ask the service there to be the drop-off point for, oh, I
don't know, Federal Express packages or something like that?
A. I would hope not, sir.
Q. You don't want them to do that there, huh?
A. It's not my decision, sir.
Q. Oh, okay. Well, if the folks at Barefoot Beach want
Federal Express to deliver something at the guardhouse, Collier County
doesn't have an ordinance that prevents that, does it?
A. No. I have no opinion on that, sir.
Q. SO you don't have an opinion as to whether people have a
right to stop at the guardhouse if they want to, do you?
A. No, sir, I don't.
Q. Okay. Let me ask you -- let's look at these photos.
Can you hear me all right from over here?
COURT REPORTER: May I change my paper before we
continue, sir?
MR. HAZZARD: Why don't you go ahead and change your
paper. Shall we take five?
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: No, let's continue.
(A short break was held.)
MR. HAZZARD: We ready to resume?
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: We are ready to resume. We were
talking about a possible date for reconvening this board in order to
talk about things. And if you want to have someone call your office
for you, what we're looking at is Tuesday the 30th or Wednesday the
31st, which is next week. And if you want to have somebody check that
out, we'll continue with the testimony and bring that back up again at
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three or thereafter.
MR. HAZZARD: I can check with my office and have that
answer by three o'clock; however, I'm not certain whether I can get to
all my witnesses in that time. We'll make some type of an arrangement
if the dates are clear on my calendar.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: I guess we're looking at the 30th.
MR. HAZZARD: The 30th?
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: I need -- the four of us have to be
here.
MR. BRYANT: The 30th is fine on my calendar.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: So I guess we're looking at the
30th, which is Tuesday.
MR. HAZZARD: We're checking.
BY MR. HAZZARD:
Q. Inspector Mazzone, I'd like to
photos. In the large one that's on the
you tell me what that is? I'm pointing
that a sign that you're familiar with?
A. It lS a sign.
Q. It lS a sign? Well, I've had that sign -- that photo
-- a little close-up taken. Photos are behind tab No. 16. You've
been to Lely Barefoot Beach before; correct?
A. Yes, I have, sir.
Q. I'm going to show you a photograph, and I think that's
the same sign that's kind of hidden in that picture up top. You can't
quite make it out. Would you agree with me that's the sign, it's just
a little clearer picture?
A. According to where this is located in this photograph,
yes, it is.
Q. Okay. I see some circles up at the -- looking at the
photo that I've handed you which is --
MR. HAZZARD: I can show you which one it is in your
book, Madam Chairman.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Yes.
MR. HAZZARD: It's the second photo in, for benefit of
the panel.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Thank you.
BY MR. HAZZARD:
Q. There are a couple of circles up at the top with what
what looks to me like the Collier County emblem. Is that what you
would agree those circles are?
A. The familiar turkey.
Q. The turkey, right. What does that sign say?
A. "All park visitors shall proceed directly to preserve
without stopping."
Q. Okay. Who put that sign up?
A. I don't know, sir.
Q. Would you guess that Collier County put it up? It's got
the Collier County symbol on it.
A. I don't know who put that sign up, but those symbols are
readily available.
Q. Okay. You have any idea what the dimensions of that
sign are?
A. No, I do not.
ask you about these
upper right-hand corner, can
to what I think is a sign.
Is
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Q. If I told you it was 3 feet by 4 feet, would that
would you dispute that?
A. No, sir. I have no reason to.
Q. Okay. There's another photo in the packet that has a
person standing next to the sign, and I'll show it to you. And
although I know camera angles can be deceiving, that looks like a
pretty big sign to me. Would you agree?
A. Yes, sir, it does.
Q. It could be 4 feet high and 3 feet wide --
A. Correct, sir.
Q. -- now that we have the perspective of the person. Do
you assume that the people you saw stopping at the Barefoot Beach
guardhouse were unable to read that sign?
A. I don't make that assumption, no.
Q. You don't? Is there a direction there that says if
you're going to the preserve, proceed without stopping? Is that a
pretty clear direction to you?
A. That's what's printed on the sign, yes, sir.
Q. SO if you observed vehicles that are stopped, why did
you assume that they didn't want to stop and that it was the
guardhouse that stopped them?
A. I've observed several vehicles stopping at one time
perhaps not because they wanted to exchange conversation or
information but perhaps because they were behind another vehicle.
Q. Well, perhaps. Perhaps they couldn't read it?
A. They couldn't get around the other vehicle because the
other gate was in a downward position, sir.
Q. Okay. So are you telling me that the folks at Lely
Barefoot Beach have to provide enough southbound traffic lanes so that
no car can ever have to stop behind another car who's stopped?
A. No, sir, I'm not saying that.
Q. I didn't think so. I'm very hopeful of that.
I'd like you to direct your attention to the notice of
violation and, in particular, to the copies of the zoning code that
are attached to that. Can you find that in your records over there?
You attached this, for lack of a better word, backup material to the
notice of violation that was served on both of my clients; correct?
A. That's correct, sir.
Q. Why?
A. For their information so that they would be aware of
what these numerals stood for.
Q. Tried to be helpful; right?
A. That's correct, sir.
Q. Okay. Let's look at the first one, Section 2.1.15,
prohibited uses and structures. In that first paragraph -- I think
you or Mr. Bryant already read it. But just to refresh I read, "any
use or structure not specifically permitted in a zoning district as a
permitted use, conditional use, or use allowed by reasonable
implication shall be prohibited in such zoning district." Now, I know
you've already told me that for purposes of this notice of violation,
the zoning district we're talking about is the PUD for Lely Barefoot
Beach; right?
A. That's correct, sir.
Q. Okay. We're not talking about agricultural special
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treatment; right?
A. We're talking about. the area that is -- the all
inclusive area of tract R within unit 1.
Q. Okay. If you have a private road, is a guardhouse in
the middle of it a use allowed by reasonable implication?
A. No, sir.
Q. What does use allowed
A. I would imagine if it
use development sections, that
it is not.
Q. Is this Section 2.1.15 only applicable to PUDs?
A. No, sir. It's applicable to all zoning districts.
Q. Okay. So in whatever zoning district a private road
might happen to be, how is a guardhouse not a use allowed by
reasonable implication?
A. Again, the PUD the implication is that the guardhouse
must be located in tract A, not the tract R where it is currently
located.
Q. Yes. But the zoning violation says -- correct me if I'm
wrong, but if you're talking about a zoning violation for a piece of
land, you need to look at the uses allowed by reasonable implication
for that piece of land, don't you?
A. That's correct, sir. And that's why we also cited for
unified control and ownership.
Q. We're going to get to the various other aspects, but at
this stage I'm interested in understanding why a guardhouse in the
middle of a private road is not a use allowed by reasonable
implication. There's not a list somewhere in Collier County of all
the uses that are allowed by reasonable implication, is there?
A. When you go over what is allowed in a zoning --
particular zoning district, those items that are not mentioned are
disallowed.
Q. Okay.
here?
A. I can't answer that, sir.
Q. This board, perhaps, could be a group that decides
whether this use is a reasonable implication for a private road?
A. Depending on who's reviewing it, yes, sir.
Q. Okay. Well, let's move down into Roman numeral two. I
notice on the copy that I received that was attached to my clients'
notice of violation there's some underlining that's in that paragraph
No.2. Do you know how that underlining came to be there?
A. Roman numeral two?
Q. No. I'm sorry. It's No.2 under Section 2.1.15,
prohibited uses and structures paragraph No.2. There's underlining.
Is there underlining on your copy?
A. You mean where it says use allowed by reasonable
implication?
Q. No.
A. I don't have what you have, sir.
Q. You don't? I'm sorry. On the notice of violation
that's been marked as an exhibit -- I'll get it for you. Does that
look to you to be the documentation that you provided my clients in a
helpful way to let them know what this is all about?
by reasonable implication include?
was implied in the PUD, the land
then it would be allowed there, which
Who's reasonable implication are we talking about
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,
A. Yes, it does, sir.
Q. Okay. And I'm asking you do you know who put the
underlining in there.
A. No, I do not, sir.
Q. You didn't do it?
A. No, I did not, sir.
Q. SO do you know if there's any significance to that
underlining?
A. I don't know what it would be, sir.
Q. Do you recall whether that underlining was there when it
was given to my clients?
A. I don't recall, sir.
Q. Okay. Well, does this Section No. 2 apply in any way
to the case we're talking about today?
A. It doesn't appear so, sir.
Q. SO my clients have not been charged with a violation of
Section 2.1.15, sub 2, have they? Or the panel doesn't need to worry
about me going through that paragraph to figure out how this
guardhouse is affected by that paragraph?
A. I don't believe so, sir.
Q. Okay. Well, let's look at 2.1.15 and then the item 3
that goes over to the next page. Is there anything in that paragraph
that applies to this case?
A. Does not appear so, sir.
Q. SO really the operative paragraph for purposes of the
notice of violation in Section 2.1.15 is paragraph 1. Can we agree to
that?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And the guardhouse isn't a use -- well, let's -- we've
already talked about the first sentence. In the second sentence
there's no roadside sales going on in this case, is there?
A. Not to my knowledge, sir.
Q. Okay. We're talking about the first sentence?
A. Sir, I was told that there were clicking devices that
were being sold from the guardhouse at one point.
Q. Who told you that?
A. A tenant of Lely.
Q. What's a clicking device?
A. A clicking device was described to me as being a device
to open up the gate and became offensive to the party that had brought
it to my attention.
Q. They didn't want people selling clicking devices at the
guardhouse? Is that what I'm to understand?
A. The device was to open up the gate. The annoyance was
caused by the mere fact that the gate was closed to begin with.
Q. Oh, okay. So in this notice of violation are you
charging my clients with roadside sales in violation of 2.1.15,
paragraph I?
A. No, sir.
Q. Okay. Clicking device was just sort of an aside?
A. Well, you had asked me about it and, yes, indeed, there
were sales from the guardhouse.
Q. SO the applicable sentence for purposes of the first
violation that you've described is sentence No.1 of 2.1.15, sub
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numeral 1 -- sub item 1; correct?
A. Correct.
Q. Okay. The next ordinance that you have referenced is
2.2.20.2.1. I think you have to skip a page to get there. Oh, before
we move to that, 2.1.15, isn't this an ordinance about selling fruit
on the side of the road and people who run up to your car and solicit
money from you when you're stopped at the traffic light?
A. In part, sir, yes.
Q. But it has other applications as well. Is that what I'm
understanding?
A. As we have just discussed, the paragraphs that don't
apply would be those of solicitation and sales.
Q. Okay.
A. The first paragraph deals more with what we're speaking
of here.
Q. Okay. And you can't explain why paragraph 2 has all
that underlining in it?
A. I didn't underline it, sir.
Q. Okay. You don't recall whether it was underlined when
it was received by my clients?
A. I don't recall, sir.
Q. Okay. Let's look at 2.2.20.2.1. There's a heading. It
looks to me like a heading. It's in italics, "relation of planned
unit development regulations to the growth management planned zoning
subdivision or other applicable regulations." We don't violate the
heading, do we?
A. I beg your pardon?
Q. Is there a violation of the heading? It's not possible
to violate the heading; right? That's just the caption of this
paragraph?
A. I would imagine that's what that's for, sir.
Q. Okay. I'd like you to read the first sentence of that
2.2.20.2.1.
A. "Relation of planned unit development regulations to the
growth management planned zoning subdivision or other applicable
regulations."
Q. How about the next sentence?
A. "All development regulations and other applicable
provisions of all county ordinances --"
Q. Hold on. Didn't you just skip a sentence? Doesn't it
start, "All applications for PUD shall be in full compliance with the
future land use element and the goals, objectives, and policies of all
elements of the growth management plan"?
A. I'm sorry. I was on another page.
Q. Okay.
A. We're speaking of 2.2.20.2.1?
Q. Correct.
A. All development regulations and other applicable
provisions? That sentence?
Q. No . I'm talking about
A. Oh. "All applications for PUD shall be in full
compliance with the future land use element and the goals, objectives,
and policies of all elements of the growth management plan."
Q. How does that sentence -- or does that sentence apply to
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the notice of violation we're
A. In that the elements
plan, and the authorized work
followed.
Q. Any problem with the application for the PUD? Is that
what you're telling me that there's a problem with the application
this sentence starts out all applications for PUDs; correct? Is there
a problem with the application for the PUD that the guardhouse isn't
located in?
A. No. The application appears to be fine.
Q. SO does sentence 1 have any implication whatsoever to
this case?
A. No, sir.
Q. How about the sentence that you were trying to read to
me before? All development regulations -- the second sentence of that
paragraph?
A. That all development regulations and other applicable
provisions of all county ordinances such as but not limited to all
provisions of the Collier County Land Development Code as may be
amended shall apply unless specifically modified by the approved PUD
document and PUD master plan.
Q. Okay. How does that sentence apply to the violation
we're talking about today?
A. That the lands that comprise the area in question have
taken on a PUD -- PUD development rather than development by the
previous zoning regulations that were in place for that same land
before the PUD was approved.
Q. Well, maybe I'm not reading
this sentence telling you what codes
Collier County Land Development Code
approved PUD document and PUD master
housekeeping sentence, isn't it?
A. Well, the fact that the PUD was adopted is -- is -- is a
modification of the zoning ordinance of -- for that particular area.
Q. And somewhere in that sentence there's a violation here;
right?
A. Correct, sir.
Q. Could you point it out to me one more time?
A. The sentence reads, "all development regulations and
other applicable provisions of all county ordinances, such as but not
limited to all provisions of the Collier County Land Development Codes
as may be amended shall apply unless specifically modified by the
approved PUD document and PUD master plan."
Q. Okay.
A. Which -- yes.
Q. I'm not understanding, but I'll move on. You read me
the sentence again; right?
A. You asked me to, sir.
Q. I thought I asked you to explain to me how it applies in
this case.
A. If there is not a PUD amendment, then the zoning
regulations for the master plan, whatever it would call for that
particular area, would have to be adhered to when one develops that
area, whatever regulations are in place for that particular
here about today?
of the PUD, the approved PUD master
to be done within that PUD were not
this correctly, but isn't
apply or what provisions of
apply unless modified by an
plan? This is some sort
the
of
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subdivision.
Q. This doesn't say that if it's not in a PUD, you've got
to look at what's allowed in A.S.T. Is this how we're supposed to get
that message?
A. If it's not changed by a PUD, then you would, of course,
have to look at what would normally be allowed in that particular area
before the zoning took place.
Q. Okay. Let's look at 2.2.20.2.3, unified control. All
land included for the purpose of development within the PUD district
shall be owned or under the control of the applicant for such zoning
designation, comma, whether that applicant be an individual
partnership, corporation or group of individuals, partnerships or
corporations. Is the land that we're talking about that the
guardhouse is on included for purposes of development within the PUD
district? That's the point; right? We're going to look at the PUD to
decide whether this thing can be there or not?
A. Is it included? It is not, sir.
Q. Okay. Then does that first sentence have any
application whatsoever to the claim we're here about today?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Okay. How does that apply?
A. In that the land on which the guardhouse or gatehouse is
situated on is outside of the PUD.
Q. This sentence says, "All land included for purposes of
development within the PUD district shall be," and then it goes on.
And you're telling me we're not talking about land that's included for
purposes of development within the PUD district; right?
A. What I'm trying to explain is that the lands under
2.2.20.2.3 must be owned and maintained by the people that own it in
order to develop it.
Q. Oh. And what's the problem with that? Is there an
ownership problem with where the guardhouse is?
A. They're not granted the allowance to develop it or to
maintain it.
Q. I'm trying to understand. You've cited us with
violating five different sections of the ordinance, and I'm going to
ask these folks at the end of the day or whenever we end this -- I'm
going to go to them and say, what was the problem with this one, what
was the problem with this one, and I'm trying to understand what's the
problem with 2.2.20.2.3 which, frankly, looks to me like it says, if
you're going to have a PUD, you've got to own or control the land
that's in it. Do you read it some other way?
A. 2.2.20.2.3 states that all land included for purposes of
development within the PUD district shall be owned or under the
control of the applicant.
Q. Okay. Let's stop. Is the land that we're taking about
-- at the time this PUD district was developed, was the land owned or
under the control of the applicant?
A. The land was not under the control of the applicant, no.
Q. Who controlled the land?
A. The -- the wording in the use access agreement and
easement agreement and some of the verbage in the PUD states that that
particular stretch of land, tract R, should be used as a roadway with
no stopping of the traffic. It should be free from vehicular
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stopping. So, therefore, you're using it in a way and maintaining it
in a way it shouldn't be.
Q. And this says, "All land included for purposes of
development within the PUD district shall be owned and under the
control of the applicant for such zoning designation." Whoever went
for the PUD zoning designation of an area has to own or control all
the land that they're going for; right? I can't get your -- what the
A. That's correct, and they do not have control of this
particular piece of property.
Q. They don't? I thought you said they owned it?
A. It is on there -- yes, they are on the deed as owners.
Q. Okay. Well, let me just ask you who was the applicant
in this case.
A. The applicant on the permit?
Q. No, the applicant we're talking about in 2.2.20.2.3.
The second sentence, "Owned or under the control of the applicant for
such zoning designation." Who applied for PUD zoning designation?
A. That would be Lely Barefoot Beach Property Owners, I
would imagine.
Q. You think Lely Barefoot Beach Property Owners
Association petitioned the Collier County Commission to zone their
neighborhood PUD before it was built?
A. I have no opinion on that, sir.
Q. Doesn't that mean the developer -- look, developer, if
you're going to make a PUD, you need to own or control all the land.
Isn't that what that's about?
A. Correct. You have to own and control the land that
you're going to be developing.
Q. SO this isn't even an issue in this case?
A. I believe it is.
Q. Okay. Well, let's look to the next sentence. "The
applicant shall present competent substantial evidence of the unified
control of the entire area within the proposed PUD district and shall
state agreement that if he proceeds with the proposed development, he
will," and then there's a colon. Any problem with that sentence in
terms of this violation?
A. No, sir.
Q. Okay. And then there's colon after that, "do so in
accordance with A,B,C,D," and then there's -- there are four things.
Has anybody stated agreement that if he proceeds with the proposed
development he will do those things that are listed in No. I?
A. Could you repeat that, please.
Q. Sure. Let me just make it an easier question.
A. No, you can repeat the same question I'm sure.
Q. I'm asking you whether in the application for the Lely
Barefoot Beach PUD, whoever the applicant was, was there any problem
with that applicant stating agreement that if he proceeds with the
proposed development, he will do the things that are in No.1?
A. No. That would be expected of him, sir.
Q. Okay. So is there any applicability whatsoever to the
sentence that starts, "the applicant shall present competent
substantial evidence," runs through the colon -- he will, colon, one,
"do so in accordance with A, B, C, D"? Any of that a problem that
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we're here about t9day?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Okay. What?
A. Do so in accordance with the PUD master plan of
development officially adopted for the district.
Q. SO did somebody fail to state their agreement that they
would do so in accordance with this? Doesn't this say you have to
agree to do these things? Did somebody fail to agree to that?
A. The failure was in doing something that was not called
for within the PUD.
Q. But it's not in failing to agree, is it?
A. I believe it. is, sir.
Q. Okay. Let's look at sub 2. We're still talking about
this applicant who you think is the Barefoot Beach Property Owners
Association, right, that you think they applied for the PUD at this
property?
A. I'm not positive who applied for the PUD.
Q. You think it might have been a developer?
A. Perhaps, sir.
Q. You think it might have been Lely Development
Corporation?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. How come you didn't cite Lely Development Corporation
for this violation? Doesn't this apply to developers and the rules
and regulations and the things they have to go through to get a PUD,
2.2.20.2.3? Isn't that what that's about?
A. It is in part, and it doesn't stop there. It continues
it applies to the people that are responsible for those properties
well after the developer leaves.
Q. Okay. Let's move on. I think we're at the final one.
2.2.20.3.8, which, I think, is titled common open spaces or common
facilities. Will you agree with me that when there is a title to a
section that the whole section is talking about that title? Is this
section talking about common open spaces or common facilities of the
Lely Barefoot Beach PUD?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. What are common open spaces and common facilities in a
PUD?
A. Those areas that are utilized by the general population.
Q. Okay. Like the roads?
A. That's correct.
Q. Okay. Now, it says that -- let's just focus on the
road, because the road seems to be a problem. "Any common open space
and common facilities" -- okay, the road -- "established by an adopted
master plan for PUD district subject to the following." Any problem
with item No.1, as far as you know? Did the PUD provide for and
establish an organization for the ownership and maintenance of any
common open space and/or common facilities?
"And such organization shall not be dissolved nor shall
it dispose of any common open space or common facilities by sale or
otherwise except to a organization conceived and established to own
and maintain the common open space or common facilities. However, the
conditions of transfer shall conform to the adopted PUD master plan."
As far as you know, did the PUD fail to provide for and establish an
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organization to do those things?
A. No. I believe they did provide for an organization.
Q. SO is there any problem with 2.2.20.3.8, sub-paragraph
I?
A. It states conceived and established to own and maintain
the common facilities. Maintenance is a question.
Q. What's the question about maintenance?
A. It's not maintained in the manner that was prescribed in
the PUD.
Q. Inspector Mazzone, isn't this talking about when they
make a PUD you have to have some kind of organization set up to cut
the lawn and clean the pool or whatever other common facilities you
have, paint the building? Isn't that what this is about?
A. In part, I'm sure.
Q. SO there is a problem with sub 1; right?
A. Are you making that a statement of fact?
Q. I'm asking. Your testimony is, after reading this
thoroughly and going through line by line where it talks about
maintenance of the common open spaces, that is there's a maintenance
problem with the Barefoot Beach guardhouse?
A. That's correct, sir.
Q. Paint peeling?
A. No, sir. It's location.
Q. Roof leaking?
A. No. It's located in the road, sir.
Q. How is that a maintenance problem?
A. The road is not maintained in the manner in which it was
intended.
Q. Let's look at sub-paragraph 2. "In the event that the
organization established to own and maintain common open space or
common facilities or any successor organization shall at any time
after the establishment of the PUD fail to meet conditions in
accordance with the adopted PUD master plan of development, the
development services director may serve written notice upon such
organization and/or the owners or residents of that planned unit
development and hold a public hearing." Does that apply, that first
sentence?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Who's the development services director?
A. I would imagine Linda Sullivan. I'm sorry. Vince
Cautero.
Q. Has Vince Cautero served any written notice upon
whatever organization this is or the owners or residents of the
planned unit development?
A. When the -- the term is used -- his designee can also
serve this. This came from Mr. Cautero's office.
Q. This came from who's office?
A. From his office.
Q~ His. I didn't here the name.
A. Mr. Cautero's office. He is our administrator.
Q. SO Mr. Cautero is who told you to issue this notice of
violation?
A. No, sir. He wasn't even there at that time. At that
time, as I said, it was Mr. Clark, I believe. He was acting
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administrator.
Q. Acting development services director?
A. I think he was both, sir, at that time.
Q. And where is the written notice that he served upon the
organization and/or owners and residents? Is that --
A. That would be your notice of violation stipulation form.
Q. That's what this means. Okay. So you think that the
existence of the Lely Barefoot Beach guardhouse is a maintenance
deficiency?
A. I believe that's a violation of what the roadway was
intended for, sir, as being maintained in a manner that was not
prescribed in the PUD.
Q. Okay. Well, let's look at the next sentence. "If
deficiencies of maintenance are not corrected within 30 days after
such notice and hearing, the development services director shall call
upon any public or private agency to maintain the common open space
for a period of one year." Is Collier County getting ready to
maintain the guardhouse at Lely Barefoot Beach for the next year?
A. I have no idea, sir.
Q. You plan to propose that they do?
A. I don't make such proposals.
Q. Would you agree with me that 2.2.20.3.8 says that
don't do what the development services director says, that
development services director's going to take over for the
A. I'm saying that the development services director
options that are beyond my scope of performance here.
Q. Okay. And I'll ask you again. Doesn't it seem to you
like this whole section, common open space and common facilities, is
talking about if the property owners association in some sort of PUD
doesn't mow the lawn we -- we being Collier County -- will?
A. We have ordinances that are specific to lawn mowing,
sir. No.
Q. Okay. Well, let's just look at the last sentence of two
there. "When the development services director determines that the
subject organization is not prepared or able to maintain the common
open space or common facilities, such public or private agency shall
continue maintenance for yearly periods." Does that mean that not
only will the development services director maintain our guardhouse
for the next year but he might do it for all years to come?
A. You're the lawyer, sir, but my humble interpretation of
that would mean that if one is not able to maintain a common area in a
way or in a manner that would be expected of them by the county, the
county would have to step in, perhaps, to assist in the maintenance.
Q. Good. Let's look at No.3. "The cost of such
maintenance by such agency shall be assessed proportionately against
the properties within the PUD that have a right of enjoYment of the
common open spaces or common facilities and shall become a lien on
said properties." Does that apply here?
A. I would hope not, sir.
Q. SO you're not going to charge us for maintaining this
guardhouse?
A. That is not my function.
Q. Good. I think 2.7.3.3 is the final section of the
ordinance that you've cited us for violating. Would you turn to that
if we
the
next
has
year?
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section.
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Okay. First sentence, "If approved by the Board of
County Commissioners, the master plan for development and all other
information and materials formally submitted with the petition shall
be considered and adopted as an amendment to the zoning code and shall
become the standards of development for the subject PUD." Has that,
in fact, happened?
A. No, sir.
Q. Did the Board of County Commissioners approve a PUD for
Lely Barefoot Beach?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Okay. So the first phrase, "If approved by the Board of
County Commissioners," that's happened; right?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Okay. The next phrase, "The master plan for development
and all other information and materials formally submitted with the
petition shall be considered and adopted as an amendment to the zoning
code," has that happened?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Okay. "And shall become the standards of development
for the subject PUD," has that happened?
A. No, sir.
Q. Are you telling me that the master plan of development
for the Lely Barefoot Beach PUD, the ordinance, is not the standard of
development for the subject PUD?
A. No, sir. I'm saying that it is the standard development
for the PUD, but it was not adhered to.
Q. Do you see the words adhered to or anything like that in
that sentence?
A. No .
Q. Okay. How does that sentence apply?
A. I'm not as gifted as you are with words, perhaps, but it
does say, "Shall be considered and adopted as amendment to the zoning
code and shall become the standard of development." It has not become
-- the standard of development has been violated. The standard
development as described in the PUD is not one that we're looking at
today. We're looking at something other than what was prescribed in
that PUD.
Q. Doesn't this mean when you zone something PUD instead of
looking at the rest of the Collier County Land Development Code, we're
going to look at the PUD document to see what you're allowed to do?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. That's what this means; right?
A. Yes.
Q. And that's what you're saying. We're looking at the
Barefoot Beach PUD document to determine what you're allowed to do on
this land that you say is zoned agricultural special treatment?
A. Those are your words, sir.
Q. Okay. Then you got to tell me what it is we're doing
looking at the PUD document. You say that's the operative document;
right?
A.
Q.
That's correct.
But you say the land is zoned agricultural special
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treatment; right?
A. That particular stretch of road is, yes. The road runs
the full length of the PUD.
Q. But the PUD applies to it?
A. That's correct, sir.
Q. Okay. How does the PUD apply to it?
A. It's described in the deed as being on tract R in unit
1, Lely Barefoot Beach.
Q. SO unit 1 on Lely Barefoot Beach is part of the PUD?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Okay. Any problem with that last sentence in the first
paragraph, "Thenceforth, development in the area delineated as the PUD
district on the official zoning atlas shall proceed only in accordance
with the adopted development regulations and PUD master plan for said
PUD district"?
A. Am I just proving what it's saying?
Q. No. I'm asking you if there's any problem applicable to
these proceedings today that is covered by that sentence?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. What's the problem?
A. The obvious one of the adopted development regulations
were not followed, sir.
Q. Okay. How about the second paragraph of 2.7.3.3? Would
you read that? You can just read it to yourself and perhaps tell me
whether or not it applies in this case.
A. In what way, sir?
Q. That's what I'm asking you. In what way does that
paragraph apply to the proceedings we're here for today?
A. I believe that the PUD does not comply with all sections
of Collier County subdivision regulations and site development plan
regulations. That's what it appears to be to myself, sir.
Q. Okay. So that paragraph is it. We're violating that?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. I'm just -- I'm going through taking notes, and I'm
writing in or out.
A. Okay.
Q. I'm writing in. Okay. What's the date of this Collier
County Land Development Code that we've been talking about?
A. I don't have the entire code in front of me, 91-102
amended the --
Q. 91-102 amended? Would that indicate to you that the
language we've been reading from today came from 1991?
A. Yes, the most current amendment.
Q. Most current and up-to-date amendment of the Land
Development Code for Collier County?
A. Correct, sir.
Q. 1991. When was the PUD for Lely Barefoot Beach
established again?
A. That would have been in '77.
Q. 1977?
A. Pardon?
Q. 1977?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. How does this regulation that was adopted in 1991 apply
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to something that went on in 1977?
A. The -- the amendments to ordinances take into
consideration passed adoptions -- changes of any other regulations
that might have taken place in various districts. It's sort of like
retroactive. It goes back to the -- this PUD -- these PUD sections
apply to what was applicable back in 1977 also. It hasn't changed.
Q. SO you're telling me that the rules could be one way in
1977 when you apply for the PUD, and some 15 years or so later the
county can change the rules?
A. No, sir, they did not change the rules. They're still
applicable.
Q. If I look at the 1977 version of the Collier County Land
Development Code, I'm going to find what we've been reading here
today?
A. If you read the PUD, you're not going to find the
rules. You're going to find a formula or way of how to develop this
particular area.
Q. I'm talking about reading the land development code.
Was there a Land Development Code in Collier County in 1977?
A. The Land Development Code is a title that has been taken
on. Yes, there was but under another title. It was the ordinance that
was in place at that time.
Q. And you're telling me that the ordinance that was in
place at that time doesn't apply? It's the ordinance that was in
place most recently that applies to everything that's gone on here
today?
A. The 91-102 ordinance has not changed from the '77
ordinance as far as the PUD regulations go.
Q. SO you're telling me if I find the 1977 Collier County
Land Development Code, I'm going to find this same language?
A. I believe so, sir.
Q. Okay. Have you ever seen the 1977 Collier County Land
Development Code?
A. Yes, sir, I have.
Q. Okay. Have you checked to see if the language is the
same?
A. I believe I did, sir.
Q. Okay. There's been a lot of talk today about an
easement. And I noticed that Mr. Bryant entered an easement as an
exhibit with O.R. book 1291, page 1232 as the site for it. I made a
note of it. Is that the easement that you recall?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Okay. We have not yet looked at the section of this
notice of violation that has verbage as to violation 1 and violation
2, have we? If I look -- you know what I'm talking about?
A. That would be --
Q. Violation I?
A. -- the attachment?
Q. Yes, the attachment. Violation 1 and some verbage.
Violation 2 and some verbage.
A. Exhibit A?
Q. Yes. Mr. Bryant entered as an exhibit an easement
recorded at book 1291, page 1232, and you testified that we're
violating that; right?
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A. Correct.
Q. Is there an easement referenced in your notice of
violation that we're violating?
A. . For the Collier County easement agreement recorded
August 26, 1988, O.R. book 1376 is mentioned here.
Q. Okay. That's not O.R. book 1291 that's been entered as
an exhibit and that you testified earlier we're violating, is it?
A. No, sir, it's not.
Q. And how come it doesn't say O.R. book 1291, page 1232
there?
A. I don't know, sir.
Q. All right. Let me just -- let me just make sure I
understand. Isn't the purposes of this notice of violation that you
and I have been talking about for hours now to put my clients on alert
to what the problem is? Is that a fair way to phrase it?
A. That's correct, sir.
Q. Okay. And are you aware that's required by the United
States Constitution?
MR. BRYANT: That calls for a legal conclusion.
MR. HAZZARD: Okay. That's fine.
Q. If I represented to you that the United States
Constitution says you need notice and an opportunity to be heard, to
have due process, does that sound familiar or would you say that's
probably right?
A. That sounds --
MR. BRYANT: It calls for a conclusion.
Q. Well, do they have a copy of the united States
Constitution over there where you work at Horseshoe Drive?
A. Not to my knowledge, sir.
Q. Okay. Let me ask you this question then. Did we have
any notice before you sat down here to testify today -- my clients
that there's any problem regarding an easement recorded at O.R. book
1291, page 1232?
A. That was not stated on this particular form.
Q. Okay. So the first time my clients heard that there's
any problem with that easement is when we walked in the door here this
morning?
MR. BRYANT: Objection. Calls for a conclusion.
A. No, sir.
Q. No? Inspector Mazzone, I think your answer was no.
When did you alert my clients that there is a problem with the
easement recorded at 1291, page 1232 that we're going to talk about
here today in front of the Code Enforcement Board?
A. I made no notification of that.
Q. You've not notified us that that was going to be
discussed here at all today, have you?
A. I personally have not, no.
Q. Has anybody to your knowledge in Collier County advised
us that that was going to be discussed here today?
A. I don't know, sir.
Q. Isn't this the document that says what we're going to
discuss here today?
A. I think it's one of the documents, yes, sir.
Q. Which other documents say what we're going to discuss
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here today?
A. The permit, the PUD document.
Q. Is it your understanding that you can
easement, tell us we're violating it, and come
and say, no, it's this other easement? That's
You can do that?
A. That's not my understanding, no.
Q. This is wrong, isn't it?
A. No, sir.
MR. HAZZARD:
Inspector.
MR. BRYANT: May it please the board. Obviously it's
now past three o'clock. There's no way I can go through my redirect
with Mr. Mazzone in the next five minutes, and I appreciate Mr. Allen
and the board's calendar.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON:
unable to --
MR. BRYANT:
there's no time.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: The board has been advised that
this room is available on Tuesday the 30th, and I've been advised by
these board members that are here today -- and I need all of them
obviously -- that they are available on Tuesday the 30th. Did you
find out, Mr. Hazzard, if you're available on Tuesday the 30th?
MR. HAZZARD: I am available, but I have not been able
to verify whether all my witnesses are available. I have verified
that one of my key witnesses is unavailable.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: It's my understanding if we don't
do this the 30th, it's a long time off.
MS. SULLIVAN: The only reason we get the 30th is
because the board's on vacation.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: It would be a month or so.
MS. SULLIVAN: Yes.
MR. HAZZARD: I feel so strongly about the witness who
can't be here -- he was going to be the witness who I would very much
like to have in front of this board.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: I understand, and you know --
although the county has not yet rested, and we're going to get back to
redirect with Mr. Mazzone when we get convened again. Do the
respective attorneys have any hopes that we are going to complete this
hearing in the one day?
MR. BRYANT: I have no idea, Madam Chairman. I know I
probably have at least 2 1/2 to 3 hours left.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: And you, Mr. Hazzard?
MR. HAZZARD: I know that I have between seven and nine
witnesses to present. And as you know, the rules that we operate
under in front of this board I have no idea who Mr. Bryant's witnesses
are; he has no idea who my witnesses are. So I'm unable to estimate
how much time I'll need to cross-examination the unknown witnesses.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: The reason I ask that question is
because if it appears that we won't complete the testimony on the
30th, would it be your desire to have Mr. Bryant complete the county's
case and you start your case on the 30th and go as far as we can
knowing that you may have to come back another day with that witness?
reference one
in here to this hearing
your understanding?
I don't have any further questions,
Did you have a witness that was
I'm going to bring him back, because
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MR. HAZZARD: Mr. Bryant just suggested that we try to
set this for two days in a row, get it all done and finish it.
Frankly, that sounds good to me.
MR. BRYANT: I would concur on that, Madam Chairman. I
hate for us to keep bifurcating it.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: I do, too. Well, Miss Sullivan, do
you have any other dates later on?
MS. SULLIVAN: They were so far in advance, I was hoping
we could find a match here before I went back, but I can do that. Do
you want me to go back and try to find the first two dates --
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Let me ask you this. There are
only four of us and, obviously, we need all of us here. It's
obviously going to be a month or so before we convene this hearing
again. Assuming the court reporter had time to transcribe what's
happened here today -- I've taken copious notes, but will there be any
objection from either one of the attorneys to having that done and
giving these four board members the opportunity to review the
transcript of what's gone on here today before the next hearing.
Would you feel good about that if we --
MR. HAZZARD: I would certainly welcome you to do that.
MR. BRYANT: That would be a good idea.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: Knowing that it's probably going to
be quite a ways down the line, can you do that? It's probably better
that you transcribe your notes than I transcribe mine.
Well, why don't we take a stretch break here for an
minute knowing that Mr. Allen has a plane to catch and see if we can't
find another date or two days in a row. We'll take like a
three-minute recess.
(A short break was held.)
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: The Code Enforcement Board would
like to go back on the record. The Board of County Commissioners
versus Lely Barefoot Beach Property OWners Association, Inc., and Lely
Barefoot Beach Masters Association, Inc., CEB No. 96-102 will be
continued until October 30th at 8:30, and we will also hold the date
of Thursday, October 31st at 8:30 hopefully to wrap this matter up.
There should be no further notice required since it's a continuation
of an ongoing matter. So I'll see these four board members and the
attorneys -- parties present today on October 30th at 8:30. The
regular scheduled Code Enforcement Board meeting, however, will be
August the 22nd when I hope I have a full contingency of seven.
Any other business to come before this board today?
MR. BRYANT: Nothing from the county, Madam Chairman.
MR. HAZZARD: Nothing from me.
CHAIRPERSON RAWSON: In that case the board meeting is
adjourned.
*****
There being no further business for the good of the County, the
meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 3:36 p.m.
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