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HAAB Minutes 11/29/2001 Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board Minutes November 29,2001 HISPANIC AFFAIRS ADVISORY BOARD MINUTES OF MEETING of November 29, 2001 PRESENT: ABSENT: David Correa, HAAB Member Pete Cade, Jr. Frank Loney, HAAB Member Sofia Pagan Robert J. Pina, HAAB Member Susan Calkins, HAAB Member Carlos Aviles, HAAB Member Ramiro Maiialich, Chief Assistant County Attorney and HAAB Staff Liaison Also Present: Victor Valdes, Editor, Las Naciones News Gary Martin, Chairman, Review Board Richard Calabrese Jerome VanHook, Second Chair, Advocacy Board Bill Poteet, Collier County Boy Scouts Kelly Daley, District Chair, Collier County Boy Scouts Janet Whidden, Collier County Boy Scouts Dick Nogaj, President of Harvest for Humanity The November 29, 2001 meeting of the Collier County Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board (HAAB) took place at the Collier County Commission meeting room and began at approximately 7:03 P.M. A quorum of five (5) members was present. APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 25. 2001 MINUTES The minutes of October 25, 2001 were considered for approval. Two changes were proposed regarding the minutes. The first was at page 6 regarding the spelling for Mr. Nogaj and the other change was at page 2. Frank Loney made a motion to approve the minutes and it was seconded by Susan Calkins. The Board voted 5 to 0 to approve the minutes as changed. GULF COAST BLINDS COMPANY MATTER Liaison Ramiro Maiialich provided a brief history on this matter including its discussion at a past HAAB meeting. The Liaison also described contacts made on behalf of the ~~",,'--'--._' .--.-- -,-~- .~."~ ---.---.-- _._-~- HAAB with Attorneys Anderson and Thornton as well as Frank Rodriguez. Frank Rodriguez was the one that brought the item to the attention of the HAAB stating that the Board of County Commissioners' denial of approval for this particular business would result in large impacts to many Hispanic families employed by the business. Frank Rodriguez, Vice President of AdministrationlFinance of the Southwest Florida Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, stated that he understood the position of the County and its representatives in choosing not to appear before the HAAB on this matter because it is a case pending before the Collier County Commission. Frank Rodriguez said that he was here to ask the HAAB to consider a proposed resolution. Frank said that the resolution would be appropriate because this business has many Hispanic employees. David Correa mentioned that he thought there was a need for prior input from the owner of the company as well as the community. He was concerned that he was hearing only a "one-sided" presentation. Susan Calkins asked where the employees reside? Frank Rodriguez responded that they reside in Collier County for the most part. Frank also stated that he has no interest in the dispute, but his concern is about the Hispanic employees that would be affected by possible loss of a minority-owned enterprise. He stated that he thought that the business would have to relocate if they could not consolidate their operations into the proposed location. Frank Loney asked if Frank Rodriguez was asking for the original approval to be honored? Liaison Ramiro Maiialich commented that this was a disputed matter and that he could not comment on the merits. He said that he had reached Mr. Thornton earlier in the day today and Attorney Thornton had indicated that he could not attend the meeting. Attorney Anderson told the Liaison that he had instructed the owner of the business, his client, to only comment at the Board of County Commissioners Meeting. Staff had been told by the County Attorney's office that their comments should be limited to the County Commission hearing. Frank Rodriguez emphasized that he was not asking the HAAB to reach conclusions on the dispute itself, but to merely communicate to the Board of County Commissioners the Hispanic impact concerns. Carlos Aviles felt that the HAAB could send a resolution to the County Commission commenting on the Hispanic concerns only. Frank Rodriguez stated that his proposed resolution was merely a draft. He thought that it was appropriate for the HAAB to comment on this matter since the Collier County Hispanic community would be affected. David Correa observed that action would be needed tonight since the County Commission would be addressing this dispute on December 11, 2001. Frank Loney made a motion to change the draft Resolution. Susan Calkins asked that the Resolution contain language to the effect that the County Commission seriously consider the impact on the Hispanic community of the reversal of any approval previously given to the business and, unless exceptional reasons exist for reversal of the prior approval (of which the HAAB is not aware) that the County Commission uphold the original approval. Ramiro Maiialich read the Purpose statement in the HAAB Ordinance to the members. David Correa commented that he thought it would be appropriate for the BCC to consider 2 ".._-- -~...__.__. -.._- the impact on the Hispanic community of any decision that the BCC reached in this dispute. Frank Loney withdrew his prior motion, Susan Calkins made a new motion for approval of the Resolution of the HAAB regarding the Gulf Coast Blind matter to contain language proposed and the motion was seconded by Mr. Pina. The HAAB voted 5 to 0 in favor of the Resolution. MR. VALDES/CITIZENS LAW ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINT ADVOCACY BOARD Mr. Victor Valdes, Editor, Las Naciones News, and Vice Chair of the Citizens Complaint Advocate Board addressed the HAAB. He thanked Susan Calkins for her participation efforts in regard to the Review Board. He introduced Gary Martin, the Chairman of the Review Board. Mr. Martin stated that this is not a "Police Review Board" but a Citizens Complaint Advocate Board. Mr. Martin revisited the history behind the Advocate Board. He stated that the previous summer Mr. Valdes had hosted a forum and a result of that forum was the creation of this entity. The Sheriff took the position that any such board would have to be under his jurisdiction so the group related to Mr. Martin and Mr. Valdes created this separate Advocate Board that has a diverse composition. Mr. Martin stated that he thought it was a good group and that it was looking for new members, including Hispanics. Attorney Bill Morris of Marco Island also works with the board. Mr. Martin stated that he had been in Naples for 30 years and that he had worked for the Ford Motor Company. He also previously worked with Collier County government. Mr. Martin introduced the members of the Board of Directors, including Mr. Richard Calabrese. Mr. Richard Calabrese mentioned that the Advocacy Board is an open group. He said that they have a simple mission which is to be a community-based organization to assist the public in grievances/complaints that they may have with law enforcement agencies. He said that they seek fair treatment of citizens by law enforcement. They work within Florida laws and receive, review and recommend regarding complaints about law enforcement. A Mission Statement was distributed to the members which is attached to these minutes. Mr. Calabrese stated that his group has met with Naples Police and with Sheriff Hunter and Leo Ochs from Collier County government. He did not believe that it would work for the sheriff to have his own civilian review board. He said that there are many people afraid to file complaints. He recognized that there are cases in which the police are not at fault, and this organization can help sort out those cases. He stated that his organization has a temporary telephone number and they are getting the word out on the street. They plan to meet with the City of Naples Mayor. He did not believe that it was acceptable to have the police policing themselves. David Correa asked how does this group interact with the County Human Relations Commission Ordinance? Mr. Calabrese stated that they are different entities. He said that his organization brings justified complaints to the attention of law enforcement. 3 _.._,.,-----_._-~. . ......._..,------'.'---', Jerome VanHook, Second Chair of the Advocacy Board, addressed the HAAB. He said that this organization was very needed and needs to be clearly separate from law enforcement which wanted to control everything. He said that the goal is due process for all cultures. He asked for the support of the HAAB for the Advocacy Board. He said that there are many reports by minorities of the community of unfair treatment by law enforcement. He also thought that this organization could help this community as a whole. Robert Pina interjected that this was a worthy cause and should have been done years ago. David Correa emphasized that the organization will help to defend the entire community. Mr. VanHook stated that the organization was available for all citizens who have issues with treatment by law enforcement. It is a not-for-profit organization. Frank Loney commented that he thought that the Board should advocate for minorities being placed in high Sheriff's Office positions. Mr. Calabrese agreed with the goal, but stated that this organization was not involved in that particular issue. Mr. Calabrese stated that this organization is to deal with some injustices that have occurred and that there are other ways to achieve minority recruitment for the Sheriff's Office. Jerome VanHook agreed also with the goal of putting forth more applications for positions at the Sheriff's Office and getting the community to support that effort. However, he emphasized that the organization specializes in due process as it relates to law enforcement agencies. Mr. Calabrese added that the Valdes Forum also revealed that minorities need to participate on juries and vote in elections. It was the consensus of the HAAB that this organization was a good start in dealing with issued affecting minorities and law enforcement. Gary Martin emphasized that the Advocacy Board is a racially diverse group and will insure that police follow proper procedures. Mr. Valdes distributed a provisional telephone number card which is attached to these minutes. COLLIER COUNTY BOY SCOUTS Representatives of the Boy Scouts in Collier County appeared before the HAAB. Those representatives were Bill Poteet, Kelly Daley and Janet Whidden. The representatives described the Collier County Boy Scouts chapter as the" Alligator District". Mr. Poteet stated that there were about 1,500 scouts. He explained that the purpose of the Boy Scouts includes creating partnerships in the community. The Boy Scouts rely heavily on volunteer adult leadership. They have a high success rate. He said that in May of 2001, the Boy Scouts started a study of minorities in the Boy Scout program in the Alligator District. They looked at national and local demographics (copies of which are attached). They found a higher than average Hispanic population in Collier County. However, Alligator District has proportionally too few Hispanic and minorities scouts. Mr. Poteet stated that that the purpose of appearing before the HAAB was to discuss the failure to attract more minorities to the Alligator District Boy Scouts program. He mentioned that surveys indicate that there is a problem recruiting minorities. Language seems to be an obstacle and there is need for translators and other efforts. There have been few 4 - - -----------.--.---.--.. --,,"_..... _._._---_.~-,....-,.- .,-- ~...,~___,...____ _ '_.'m~__~.'___ suggestions on how to correct the problems. Nothing indicates that discrimination is an obstacle to the recruitment. He emphasized that the scouts want minority recruits. David Correa stated that he thought the reasons for nonparticipation were well analyzed and that the key was to address those problems. Mr. Poteet stated that he was looking for suggestions to form a plan of action. Frank Loney recounted a negative experience with a Russian family where the children were essentially being forced to join the Scouts. He said that type of situation is not positive. Liaison Ramiro Maiialich suggested that the Scouts contact Mr. Valdes, Frank Rodriguez and others in the Hispanic community. Frank Loney suggested church contacts. Mr. Poteet emphasized that scouting should always be voluntary and fun. Robert Pina wondered whether the cost to join the Scouts could be an obstacle. Kelly Daley, District Chair for the Boy Scouts, addressed the HAAB. She said that coerced scouting would be a basis for revoking the charter of that Scout Troop. She said that scouts build leaders and they need more minorities that can grow to be leaders. She thought that they needed the HAAB or someone at the HAAB knows to introduce the scouting concept to the minority community. She said that there were scholarships available. She mentioned that the schools are one access point to the scouts. The scouts also have bilingual publications. David Correa suggested introducing the scouting program to the charter school in Immokalee. Frank Loney thought that there would be a need for more translators. Kelly Daley mentioned that they had gone to nearly every elementary school. Janet Whidden mentioned that she represents the Boy Scouts and works in Immokalee. She said that the biggest problem is language and that she brings along translators. She described the numbers of Hispanics and some of the scouting packs. She said that they need Hispanics and Black adults to act as leaders. She mentioned that the Girl Scouts were also in Immokalee and that Fred Thomas has assisted them in the Immokalee area. She thought that the biggest challenge throughout the county in reaching minorities was language and educating adults about scouting. Kelly Daley inquired whether an HAAB member or designee would be interested in joining the scouts as well as asking for any other contact information regarding the Hispanic community. She passed out contact cards to HAAB members. David Correa recommended Pete Cade as the contact from the HAAB. Frank Loney stated that he would speak with St. Peters Church regarding the East Naples minority adult community that might be able to serve as leaders for scouting. MR. NOGAJIHARVEST FOR HUMANITY Dick Nogaj, President of Harvest for Humanity, addressed the HAAB. He mentioned that Harvest for Humanity is a not-for-profit organization. He thanked the Board members for the opportunity to appear before the HAAB. He described his background as being a registered professional engineer from Illinois and Florida. He said that he created a large engineering firm and sold the company to its employees. He set up a foundation in Immokalee. He said that he found the conditions in Immokalee to be comparable to the Dominican Republic. He said that it was possible to build farms, as well as homes, for farm workers. He said that he had started the Harvest for Humanity farm on 26 acres in Immokalee. The first commercial harvest is expected in 2002. The 5 farm in Immokalee involves full year around work and living wages with year around diversified crops. There are also affordable housing and development initiatives. He said that visitors are invited and to merely call 657-4588. He explained that after the farm workers go through training for three or four years they are given stock options to buy the farm. Blueberries are the cash crop. They sell very quickly. He said that they wanted other growers to endorse the concept of living wages. They are in the process of setting up groups to promote tax credits to support the living wage campaign. He distributed an article from the Naples Daily News (attached) which explains the tax creditslliving wage program. He said that there is a need to look at farming as a stable, year around living wage occupation. He thought that tremendous economic development could occur in Immokalee with this concept. He said the key is for legislation for tax credits for growers that pay living wages. Mr. Nogaj stated that Congress (he has conferred with Senator Graham) needs to amend existing tax credit law to include living wage growers and that labels be authorized to be put on crops in stores displaying the living wage label. These products can be safely grown in the United States and help eliminate poverty. Mr. Nogaj mentioned that, in his opinion, the alternative legislation being proposed for "Guest-Workers" would be the equivalent of involuntary servitude and result in money leaving the Immokalee area to support farm workers in other nations. By contrast, the living wage concept will help growers with their economic problems and their products will be another type of crop to choose from for the public. He emphasized that the key for accomplishing the living wage/tax credit program was for the growers to have economic incentives and that he was asking the HAAB and others to support this concept. Robert Pina asked why some growers' crops get subsidized? Mr. Nogaj responded that it was principally due to lobbies and political connections. He promised that Senator Graham's office would listen to any comments on this topic. He clarified that his living wage concept is not a subsidy. He said that the program provides a guarantee of a living wage to workers by certifying same on the products. He thinks that it is necessary to have the agricultural market treat their workers like other employers. He stated that he has also spoken about this topic with Senator Nelson. Mr. Nogaj mentioned that a La Raza article which has an update on the guest worker alternative program. Carlos Aviles said that he thought that this living wage concept was a good idea. He thought that the Coalition of Immokalee Farm Workers' approach was being resisted by the growers. The Ii ving wage concept should not be resisted by growers because they will also benefit from it. Mr. Nogaj stated that the key is the payment of decent wages to farm workers. The growers cannot exist without the farm workers. He said that the farm workers are skilled and help with selective picking. He said that once the wages that are paid become high enough, other problems would also be positively affected. David Correa asked if Mr. Nogaj had conferred with the Immokalee Farm Worker Coalition. Mr. Nogaj said that he had, but they still had different approaches. Mr. Nogaj said that he was interested in contacting the HAAB, County Commission and elected representatives to support his concept. He thought that there should be legislation proposed to support living wages as opposed to the guest worker concept. David Correa 6 '-"--~--,---'--'-'-- -- _._,._~-~.- ,.--.,"'," ...._. ~_..,. -- --'.---.--.'-.---. mentioned that he would consider the submittal of an agenda item to the County Commission in February on the living wage concept. Mr. Pina mentioned that perhaps the Board would be interested in meeting in Immokalee and touring the facilities. Mr. Nogaj stated that they could also tour the "Jubilation" Farm Worker Village. The meeting of the HAAB adjourned at approximately 9:01p.m. Prepared by: Ramiro Maiialich, Chief Assistant County Attorney and HAAB Staff Liaison ~ ,01 ~iVO,;u Approved by the Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board on this ~ day of ' 2001. 11A;{) (~'-%fM j David Correa, Chairman Ramiro/HAAB/Minutes 11-29-01 7 -- ,---,,', -"-,-,-.,~.. - .._-" '--.'. .....',---- HISPANIC AFFAIRS ADVISORY BOARD MINUTES OF MEETING of November 29, 2001 PRESENT: ABSENT: David Correa, HAAB Member Pete Cade, J r. Frank Loney, HAAB Member Sofia Pagan Robert J. Pina, HAAB Member Susan Calkins, HAAB Member Carlos Aviles, HAAB Member Ramiro Maiialich, Chief Assistant County Attorney and HAAB Staff Liaison Also Present: Victor Valdes, Editor, Las Naciones News Gary Martin, Chairman, Review Board Richard Calabrese Jerome VanHook, Second Chair, Advocacy Board Bill Poteet, Collier County Boy Scouts Kelly Daley, District Chair, Collier County Boy Scouts Janet Whidden, Collier County Boy Scouts Dick Nogaj, President of Harvest for Humanity The November 29, 2001 meeting of the Collier County Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board (HAAB) took place at the Collier County Commission meeting room and began at approximately 7:03 P.M. A quorum of five (5) members was present. APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 25. 2001 MINUTES The minutes of October 25, 2001 were considered for approval. Two changes were proposed regarding the minutes. The first was at page 6 regarding the spelling for Mr. Nogaj and the other change was at page 2. .Frank Loney made a motion to approve the minutes and it was seconded by Susan Calkins. The Board voted 5 to 0 to approve the minutes as changed. GULF COAST BLINDS COMPANY MATTER Liaison Ramiro Maiialich provided a brief history on this matter including its discussion at a past HAAB meeting. The Liaison also described contacts made on behalf of the _____.__._.______~_~______.__.__~_.__.._~, "._....._..0 ----,-~.._-<~-- -- HAAB with Attorneys Anderson and Thornton as well as Frank Rodriguez. Frank Rodriguez was the one that brought the item to the attention of the HAAB stating that the Board of County Commissioners' denial of approval for this particular business would result in large impacts to many Hispanic families employed by the business. Frank Rodriguez, Vice President of AdministrationlFinance of the Southwest Florida Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, stated that he understood the position of the County and its representatives in choosing not to appear before the HAAB on this matter because it is a case pending before the Collier County Commission. Frank Rodriguez said that he was here to ask the HAAB to consider a proposed resolution. Frank said that the resolution would be appropriate because this business has many Hispanic employees. David Correa mentioned that he thought there was a need for prior input from the owner of the company as well as the community. He was concerned that he was hearing only a "one-sided" presentation. Susan Calkins asked where the employees reside? Frank Rodriguez responded that they reside in Collier County for the most part. Frank also stated that he has no interest in the dispute, but his concern is about the Hispanic employees that would be affected by possible loss of a minority-owned enterprise. He stated that he thought that the business would have to relocate if they could not consolidate their operations into the proposed location. Frank Loney asked if Frank Rodriguez was asking for the original approval to be honored? Liaison Ramiro Maiialich commented that this was a disputed matter and that he could not comment on the merits. He said that he had reached Mr. Thornton earlier in the day today and Attorney Thornton had indicated that he could not attend the meeting. Attorney Anderson told the Liaison that he had instructed the owner of the business, his client, to only comment at the Board of County Commissioners Meeting. Staff had been told by the County Attorney's office that their comments should be limited to the County Commission hearing. Frank Rodriguez emphasized that he was not asking the HAAB to reach conclusions on the dispute itself, but to merely communicate to the Board of County Commissioners the Hispanic impact concerns. Carlos Aviles felt that the HAAB could send a resolution to the County Commission commenting on the Hispanic concerns only. Frank Rodriguez stated that his proposed resolution was merely a draft. He thought that it was appropriate for the HAAB to comment on this matter since the Collier County Hispanic community would be affected. David Correa observed that action would be needed tonight since the County Commission would be addressing this dispute on December 11, 2001. Frank Loney made a motion to change the draft Resolution. Susan Calkins asked that the Resolution contain language to the effect that the County Commission seriously consider the impact on the Hispanic community of the reversal of any approval previously given to the business and, unless exceptional reasons exist for reversal of the prior approval (of which the HAAB is not aware) that the County Commission uphold the original approval. Ramiro Maiialich read the Purpose statement in the HAAB Ordinance to the members. David Correa commented that he thought it would be appropriate for the BCC to consider 2 .,- .--.>--.-.- --'---'._~-, -_., .---,- _._.",u_.._. , the impact on the Hispanic community of any decision that the BCC reached in this dispute. Frank Loney withdrew his prior motion, Susan Calkins made a new motion for approval of the Resolution of the HAAB regarding the Gulf Coast Blind matter to contain language proposed and the motion was seconded by Mr. Pina. The HAAB voted 5 to 0 in favor of the Resolution. MR. VALDES/CITIZENS LAW ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINT ADVOCACY BOARD Mr. Victor Valdes, Editor, Las Naciones News, and Vice Chair of the Citizens Complaint Advocate Board addressed the HAAB. He thanked Susan Calkins for her participation efforts in regard to the Review Board. He introduced Gary Martin, the Chairman of the Review Board. Mr. Martin stated that this is not a "Police Review Board" but a Citizens Complaint Advocate Board. Mr. Martin revisited the history behind the Advocate Board. He stated that the previous summer Mr. Valdes had hosted a forum and a result of that forum was the creation of this entity. The Sheriff took the position that any such board would have to be under his jurisdiction so the group related to Mr. Martin and Mr. Valdes created this separate Advocate Board that has a diverse composition. Mr. Martin stated that he thought it was a good group and that it was looking for new members, including Hispanics. Attorney Bill Morris of Marco Island also works with the board. Mr. Martin stated that he had been in Naples for 30 years and that he had worked for the Ford Motor Company. He also previously worked with Collier County government. Mr. Martin introduced the members of the Board of Directors, including Mr. Richard Calabrese. Mr. Richard Calabrese mentioned that the Advocacy Board is an open group. He said that they have a simple mission which is to be a community-based organization to assist the public in grievances/complaints that they may have with law enforcement agencies. He said that they seek fair treatment of citizens by law enforcement. They work within Florida laws and receive, review and recommend regarding complaints about law enforcement. A Mission Statement was distributed to the members which is attached to these minutes. Mr. Calabrese stated that his group has met with Naples Police and with Sheriff Hunter and Leo Ochs from Collier County government. He did not believe that it would work for the sheriff to have his own civilian review board. He said that there are many people afraid to file complaints. He recognized that there are cases in which the police are not at fault, and this organization can help sort out those cases. He stated that his organization has a temporary telephone number and they are getting the word out on the street. They plan to meet with the City of Naples Mayor. He did not believe that it was acceptable to have the police policing themselves. David Correa asked how does this group interact with the County Human Relations Commission Ordinance? Mr. Calabrese stated that they are different entities. He said that his organization brings justified complaints to the attention of law enforcement. 3 '"..--.-, ~ ~-~.-..- .".._.~'" .-..- - ~--_._-, Jerome VanHook, Second Chair of the Advocacy Board, addressed the HAAB. He said that this organization was very needed and needs to be clearly separate from law enforcement which wanted to control everything. He said that the goal is due process for all cultures. He asked for the support of the HAAB for the Advocacy Board. He said that there are many reports by minorities of the community of unfair treatment by law enforcement. He also thought that this organization could help this community as a whole. Robert Pina interjected that this was a worthy cause and should have been done years ago. David Correa emphasized that the organization will help to defend the entire community. Mr. VanHook stated that the organization was available for all citizens who have issues with treatment by law enforcement. It is a not-for-profit organization. Frank Loney commented that he thought that the Board should advocate for minorities being placed in high Sheriff's Office positions. Mr. Calabrese agreed with the goal, but stated that this organization was not involved in that particular issue. Mr. Calabrese stated that this organization is to deal with some injustices that have occurred and that there are other ways to achieve minority recruitment for the Sheriff's Office. Jerome VanHook agreed also with the goal of putting forth more applications for positions at the Sheriff's Office and getting the community to support that effort. However, he emphasized that the organization specializes in due process as it relates to law enforcement agencies. Mr. Calabrese added that the Valdes Forum also revealed that minorities need to participate on juries and vote in elections. It was the consensus of the HAAB that this organization was a good start in dealing with issued affecting minorities and law enforcement. Gary Martin emphasized that the Advocacy Board is a racially diverse group and will insure that police follow proper procedures. Mr. Valdes distributed a provisional telephone number card which is attached to these minutes. COLLIER COUNTY BOY SCOUTS Representatives of the Boy Scouts in Collier County appeared before the HAAB. Those representatives were Bill Poteet, Kelly Daley and Janet Whidden. The representatives described the Collier County Boy Scouts chapter as the "Alligator District". Mr. Poteet stated that there were about 1,500 scouts. He explained that the purpose of the Boy Scouts includes creating partnerships in the community. The Boy Scouts rely heavily on volunteer adult leadership. They have a high success rate. He said that in May of 2001, the Boy Scouts started a study of minorities in the Boy Scout program in the Alligator District. They looked at national and local demographics (copies of which are attached). They found a higher than average Hispanic population in Collier County. However, Alligator District has proportionally too few Hispanic and minorities scouts. Mr. Poteet stated that that the purpose of appearing before the HAAB was to discuss the failure to attract more minorities to the Alligator District Boy Scouts program. He mentioned that surveys indicate that there is a problem recruiting minorities. Language seems to be an obstacle and there is need for translators and other efforts. There have been few 4 ,h._,_.___._,._.'__~~~_.._,_ ._-.. ....,,-,~.;.,~~._<~ . -~" '-~.._.'-,,_.~---_..-... ,.---.-......,,-..-. suggestions on how to correct the problems. Nothing indicates that discrimination is an obstacle to the recruitment. He emphasized that the scouts want minority recruits. David Correa stated that he thought the reasons for nonparticipation were well analyzed and that the key was to address those problems. Mr. Poteet stated that he was looking for suggestions to form a plan of action. Frank Loney recounted a negati ve experience with a Russian family where the children were essentially being forced to join the Scouts. He said that type of situation is not positive. Liaison Ramiro Maiialich suggested that the Scouts contact Mr. Valdes, Frank Rodriguez and others in the Hispanic community. Frank Loney suggested church contacts. Mr. Poteet emphasized that scouting should always be voluntary and fun. Robert Pina wondered whether the cost to join the Scouts could be an obstacle. Kelly Daley, District Chair for the Boy Scouts, addressed the HAAB. She said that coerced scouting would be a basis for revoking the charter of that Scout Troop. She said that scouts build leaders and they need more minorities that can grow to be leaders. She thought that they needed the HAAB or someone at the HAAB knows to introduce the scouting concept to the minority community. She said that there were scholarships available. She mentioned that the schools are one access point to the scouts. The scouts also have bilingual publications. David Correa suggested introducing the scouting program to the charter school in Immokalee. Frank Loney thought that there would be a need for more translators. Kelly Daley mentioned that they had gone to nearly every elementary school. Janet Whidden mentioned that she represents the Boy Scouts and works in Immokalee. She said that the biggest problem is language and that she brings along translators. She described the numbers of Hispanics and some of the scouting packs. She said that they need Hispanics and Black adults to act as leaders. She mentioned that the Girl Scouts were also in Immokalee and that Fred Thomas has assisted them in the Immokalee area. She thought that the biggest challenge throughout the county in reaching minorities was language and educating adults about scouting. Kelly Daley inquired whether an HAAB member or designee would be interested in joining the scouts as well as asking for any other contact information regarding the Hispanic community. She passed out contact cards to HAAB members. David Correa recommended Pete Cade as the contact from the HAAB. Frank Loney stated that he would speak with St. Peters Church regarding the East Naples minority adult community that might be able to serve as leaders for scouting. MR. NOGA.T/HARVEST FOR HUMANITY Dick Nogaj, President of Harvest for Humanity, addressed the HAAB. He mentioned that Harvest for Humanity is a not-for-profit organization. He thanked the Board members for the opportunity to appear before the HAAB. He described his background as being a registered professional engineer from Illinois and Florida. He said that he created a large engineering firm and sold the company to its employees. He set up a foundation in Immokalee. He said that he found the conditions in Immokalee to be comparable to the Dominican Republic. He said that it was possible to build farms, as well as homes, for farm workers. He said that he had started the Harvest for Humanity farm on 26 acres in Immokalee. The first commercial harvest is expected in 2002. The 5 -"~"'-'-~'._,---"'----- "-',-- -_.~-_._--"'~" ,-,-,-"",",,--,,~...,-_.","--_._._.- _"-'-".,._-~.".,.-'-- "..".-.. ~._-,-,......"-_...._--~ . - ....------- farm in Immokalee involves full year around work and living wages with year around diversified crops. There are also affordable housing and development initiatives. He said that visitors are invited and to merely call 657-4588. He explained that after the farm workers go through training for three or four years they are given stock options to buy the farm. Blueberries are the cash crop. They sell very quickly. He said that they wanted other growers to endorse the concept of living wages. They are in the process of setting up groups to promote tax credits to support the living wage campaign. He distributed an article from the Naples Daily News (attached) which explains the tax creditslliving wage program. He said that there is a need to look at farming as a stable, year around living wage occupation. He thought that tremendous economic development could occur in Immokalee with this concept. He said the key is for legislation for tax credits for growers that pay living wages. Mr. Nogaj stated that Congress (he has conferred with Senator Graham) needs to amend existing tax credit law to include living wage growers and that labels be authorized to be put on crops in stores displaying the living wage label. These products can be safely grown in the United States and help eliminate poverty. Mr. Nogaj mentioned that, in his opinion, the alternative legislation being proposed for "Guest-Workers" would be the equivalent of involuntary servitude and result in money leaving the Immokalee area to support farm workers in other nations. By contrast, the living wage concept will help growers with their economic problems and their products will be another type of crop to choose from for the public. He emphasized that the key for accomplishing the living wage/tax credit program was for the growers to have economic incentives and that he was asking the HAAB and others to support this concept. Robert Pin a asked why some growers' crops get subsidized? Mr. Nogaj responded that it was principally due to lobbies and political connections. He promised that Senator Graham's office would listen to any comments on this topic. He clarified that his living wage concept is not a subsidy. He said that the program provides a guarantee of a living wage to workers by certifying same on the products. He thinks that it is necessary to have the agricultural market treat their workers like other employers. He stated that he has also spoken about this topic with Senator Nelson. Mr. Nogaj mentioned that a La Raza article which has an update on the guest worker alternative program. Carlos Aviles said that he thought that this living wage concept was a good idea. He thought that the Coalition of Immokalee Farm Workers' approach was being resisted by the growers. The living wage concept should not be resisted by growers because they will also benefit from it. Mr. Nogaj stated that the key is the payment of decent wages to farm workers. The growers cannot exist without the farm workers. He said that the farm workers are skilled and help with selective picking. He said that once the wages that are paid become high enough, other problems would also be positively affected. David Correa asked if Mr. Nogaj had conferred with the Immokalee Farm Worker Coalition. Mr. Nogaj said that he had, but they still had different approaches. Mr. Nogaj said that he was interested in contacting the HAAB, County Commission and elected representatives to support his concept. He thought that there should be legislation proposed to support living wages as opposed to the guest worker concept. David Correa 6 - __u.___ _______~._._._._ -- ~----_.__._-_.._....__. ...~.~-,..__._"_.---- _.._.._.,.._--~ mentioned that he would consider the submittal of an agenda item to the County Commission in February on the living wage concept. Mr. Pina mentioned that perhaps the Board would be interested in meeting in Immokalee and touring the facilities. Mr. Nogaj stated that they could also tour the "Jubilation" Farm Worker Village. The meeting of the HAAB adjourned at approximately 9:01p.m. Prepared by: Ramiro Maiialich, Chief Assistant County Attorney and HAAB Staff Liaison Approved by the Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board on this _ day of 2001. David Correa, Chairman RamirolHAAB/Minutes 11-29-01 7 ->-----..----.-.-. ---- - _..~.._--,~,--- ~"'--'.~- ,- ,- -".._-_._.~... -.-..--.,--... --,._---_._._-_._._~,-_. .... ,--,,-"'., ~ HISPANIC AFFAIRS ADVISORY BOARD MINUTES OF MEETING of November 29, 2001 PRESENT: ABSENT: David Correa, HAAB Member Pete Cade, Jr. Frank Loney, HAAB Member Sofia Pagan Robert J. Pina, HAAB Member Susan Calkins, HAAB Member Carlos A viles, HAAB Member Ramiro Maiialich, Chief Assistant County Attorney and HAAB Staff Liaison Also Present: Victor Valdes, Editor, Las Naciones News Gary Martin, Chairman, Review Board Richard Calabrese Jerome VanHook, Second Chair, Advocacy Board Bill Poteet, Collier County Boy Scouts Kelly Daley, District Chair, Collier County Boy Scouts Janet Whidden, Collier County Boy Scouts Dick Nogaj, President of Harvest for Humanity The November 29, 2001 meeting of the Collier County Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board (HAAB) took place at the Collier County Commission meeting room and began at approximately 7:03 P.M. A quorum of five (5) members was present. APPROVAL 0>' OCTOBER 25. 2001 MINUTES r,;;; mC. The minutes of October 25, 2001 were considered for approval. Two change were proposed regarding the minutes. The first was at page 6 regarding the spelling fo Nogaj and the other change was at page 2. Frank Loney made a motion to approve the minutes and it was seconded by Susan Calkins. The Board voted 5 to 0 to approve the minutes as changed. GULF COAST BLINDS COMPANY MATTER Liaison Ramiro Maiialich provided a brief history on this matter including its discussion at a past HAAB meeting. The Liaison also described contacts made on behalf of the T_....."__~___. _. ~."~ __.__._..k.,_',_____~<....,"._...~.~__"'__..-. ----.-.-~.""'""'>-~-,--,"-="~~.-,."....--_. ....".,---_..~"~_..~--".- IACJ((1-foV\ HAAB with Attorneys Anderson and Th~'1QJ1 as well as Frank Rodriguez. Frank Rodriguez was the one that brought the item to the attention of the HAAB stating that the Board of County Commissioners' denial of approval for this particular business would result in large impacts to many Hispanic families employed by the business. Frank Rodriguez, Vice President of Administration/Finance of the Southwest Florida Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, stated that he understood the position of the County and its representatives in choosing not to appear before the HAAB on this matter because it is a case pending before the Collier County Commission. Frank Rodriguez said that he was here to ask the HAAB to consider a proposed resolution ( . 'J. Frank said that . the resolution would be appropriate because this business has many Hispanic employees. David Correa mentioned that he thought there was a need for prior input from the owner of the company as well as the community. He was concerned that he was hearing only a "one-sided" presentation. Susan Calkins asked where the employees reside? Frank Rodriguez responded that they reside in Collier cou~he most part. Frank also stated that he has no interest in the dispute, but his conc Illfi b ut the Hispanic employees that would be affected by possible loss of a minority-o enterprise. He stated that he thought that the business would have to relocate if they could not consolidate their operations into the proposed location. Frank Loney asked if Frank Rodriguez was asking for the original approval to be honored? Liaison Ramiro Maiialich commented that this was a diS~ that he could not comment on the merits. He said that he had reached . Thorton lier in the day today and Attorne~orto~ad indicated that he could not attend the meeting. Attorney Anderson told the LiaIson that he had instructed the owner of the business, his client, to only comment at the Board of County Commissioners Meeting. Staff had been told by the County Attorney's office that their comments should be limited to the County Commission hearing. Frank Rodriguez emphasized that he was not asking the HAAB to reach conclusions on the dispute itself, but to merely communicate to the Board of County Commissioners the Hispanic impact concerns. Carlos Aviles felt that the HAAB could send a resolution to the County Commission commenting on the Hispanic concerns only. Frank Rodriguez stated that his proposed resolution was merely a draft. He thought that it was appropriate for the HAAB to comment on this matter since the Collier County Hispanic community would be affected. David Correa observed that action would be needed tonight since the County Commission would be addressing this dispute on December 11,2001. Frank Loney made a motion to change the draft Resolution. Susan Calkins asked that the Resolution contain language to the effe~ the County Commission seriously consider the impact on the Hispanic community t e reversal of any approval previously given to the business and, unless exceptional reasons exist for reversal of the prior approval (of which the HAAB is not aware) that the County Commission uphold the original approval. Ramiro Maiialich read the Purpose statement in the HAAB Ordinance to the members. David Correa commented that he thought it would be appropriate for the BCC to consider 2 .....~..,--_.._._._---_._.._..__..._."...._----_..,.-".. . "-,,.'---... '-~'<-'~-~"~<--"-'-'--'--~"~'._~ ~,"-_',~<---_.'--_.._.- the impact on the Hispanic community of any decision that the BCC reached in this di spute. Frank Loney withdrew his prior motion, Susan Calkins made a new motion for approval of the Resolution of the HAAB regarding the Gulf Coast Blind matter to contain language proposed and the motion was seconded by Mr. Pina. The HAAB voted 5 to 0 in favor of the Resolution. MR. VALDES/CITIZENS LAW ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINT ADVOCACY BOARD Mr. Victor Valdes, Editor, Las Naciones News, and Vice Chair of the Citizens Complaint Advocate Board addressed the HAAB. He thanked Susan Calkins for her participation efforts in regard to the Review Board. He introduced Gary Martin, the Chairman of the Review Board. Mr. Martin stated that this is not a "Police Review Board" but a Citizens Complaint Advocate Board. Mr. Martin revisited the history behind th~cate Board. He stated that the previous summer Mr. V a~ad hosted a forum an ,. a esult of that forum was the creation of this entity. T e~h riff took the position < ny such board would have to be under his jurisdiction s e group related to Mr. Martin and Mr. Valdes created this separate Advocate Board that has a diverse composition. Mr. Martin stated that he thought it was a good group and that it was looking for new members, including Hispanics. Attorney Bill Morris of Marco Island also works with the board. Mr. Martin stated that he had been in Naples for 30 Ye~ that he had worked for the Ford Motor Company. He also previously worked wit ~ oilier County government. Mr. Martin introduced the members of the Board of Dl ors, including Mr. Richard Calabrese. Mr. Richard Calabrese mentioned that the Advocacy Board is an open group. He said that they have a simple mission which is to be a community-based organization to assist the public in grievances/complaints that they may have with law enforcement agencies. He said that they seek fair treatment of citizens by law enforcement. They work within Florida laws and receive, review and recommend regarding complaints about law / enforcement. A Mission Statement was distributed to the members which is attached to these minutes. Mr. Calabrese stated that his group has met with Naples Police and with Sheriff Hunter and Leo Ochs from Collier County government. He did not believe that it would work for the sheriff to have his own civilian review board. He said that there are l' . , &- many people ~ afraid to file complaints. He recognized that there ich the police are not at fault, and this organization can help sort out those cases. stated that his organization has a temporary telephone number and they are getting the word out on the street. They plan to meet with the City of Naples Mayor. He did not believe that it was acceptable to have the police policing themselves. David Correa asked how does this group interact with the County Human Relations Commission Ordinance? Mr. Calabrese stated that they are different entities. He said that his organization brings justified complaints to the attention of law enforcement. 3 ^_"""_,_,,__"_~,,_,,"_____".m"_'_ "__"_~_";~_~"_~_ ",- ~.-."_.~_.""_., -.,_..,._..._.-...........".._-<._..~--~-,~-,.".~"'"--"-_._~,--.-.-.-.---.. Jerome VanHook, Second Chair of the Advocacy Board, addressed the HAAB. He said that this organization was very needed and needs to be clearly separate from law enforcement which wanted to control everything. He said that the goal is due process for all cultures. He asked for the support of the HAAB for the Advocacy Board. He said that there are many reports by minorities of the community of unfair treatment by law enforcement. He also thought that this organization could help this community as a whole. /" "" \I \ ~((' Robert Pina interjected that this was a worthy cause~~~uld have been done years ago. David Correa emphasized that the organizatio to defend the entire community. Mr. VanHook stated that the organization was available for all citizens who have issues with treatment by law enforcement. It is a not-for-profit organization. Frank Loney commented that he thought that the Board should advocate for minorities being placed in high Sheriff's Office positions. Mr. Calabrese agreed with the goal, but stated that this organization was not involved in that particular issue. Mr. Calabrese stated that this organization is to dealr'lrllDi~tt~t~ that have occurred and that there are other ways to achieve minority ~ hen s Office. Jerome VanHook agreed also with the goal of putting forth'more applications for positions at the Sheriff's Office and getting the community to support that effort. However, he emphasized that the organization specializes in due process as it relates to law enforcement agencies. Mr. Calabrese added that the Valdes Forum also revealed that minorities need to participate on juries and vote in elections. It was the consensus of the HAAB that this organization was a good start in dealing with issued affecting minorities and law enforcement. Gary Martin emphasized that the Advocacy Board is a racially diverse group and will insure that police follow proper / procedures. Mr. Valdes distributed a provisional telephone number card which is attached to these minutes. COLLIER COUNTY BOY SCOUTS Representatives of the Boy Scouts in Collier County appeared before the HAAB. Those representatives were Bill Poteet, Kelly Daley ::~d Jillltl-~he representatives described the Collier County Boy Scouts ~~'~Ji#1~~r istrict". Mr. Poteet stated tEere were about 1,500 scouts. ~;~ p~se of the Boy Scouts~ ~ inclu 6c eating partnerships in the community. e oy Scouts rely heavily on voluntee dult leadership. They have a high success rate. He said that in May of 2001, the Boy Scouts started a study of minorities in the Boy Scout program in the Alligator V' District. They looked at national and local demographics (copies of which are attached). They found a higher than average Hispanic population in Collier County. However, Alligator District has proportionally too few Hispanic and minorities scouts. Mr. Poteet stated that that the purpose of appearing before the HAAB was to discuss the failure to attract more minorities to the Alligator District Boy Scouts program. He mentioned that surveys indicate that there is a problem recruiting minorities. Language seems to be an obstacle and there is need for translators and other efforts. There have been few 4 ,..,-_..,",._,._,.._~", ._,---,_._---~-,~_._----,~~~._,-_.,.,.^~~_._-",.,_.-.-."~..._,-_._.,_.~_....."._.~._.,."""_._"_._"._"'..,._'.~>._~,~...<.~~~._._--'------'" -. suggestions on how to correct the problems. Nothing indicates that discrimination is an obstacle to the recruitment. He emphasized that the scouts want minority recruits. David Correa stated that he thought the reasons for nonparticipation were well analyzed and that the key was to address those problems. Mr. Poteet stated that he was looking for suggestions to form a plan of action. Frank Loney recounted a negative experience with a Russian family where the children were essentially being forced to join the Scouts. He said that type of situation is not positive. Liaison Ramiro Maiialich suggested that the Scouts contact Mr. Valdes, Frank Rodriguez and others in the Hispanic community. Frank Loney suggested church contacts. Mr. Poteet emphasized that scouting should always be voluntary and fun. Robert Pina wondered whether the cost to join the Scouts could be an obstacle. Kelly Daley, District Chair for the Boy Scouts, addressed the HAAB. She said thatGl> en ..r~ ;iI!lDr scouting would be a basis for revoking the charter of that Scout Troop. She said that scouts build leaders and they need more minorities that can grow to be leaders. She thought that they needed the HAAB or someone at the HAAB knows to introduce the scouting concept to the minority community. ~id thap~ were scholarships available. She mentioned that the schools are 0 ~ acces~t'o he scouts. The scouts also have bilingual publications. David Correa suggested intro ucing the scouting program to the charter school in Immokalee. Frank Loney thought that there would be a need for more translators. Kelly Daley mentioned that they had gone to nearly every elementary school. Janet Whidden mentioned that she represents the Boy Scouts and works in Immokalee. She said that the biggest problem is language and that she brings along translators. She described the numbers of Hispanics and some of the scouting packs. She said that they need Hispanics and Black adults to act as leaders. She mentioned that the Girl Scouts were also in Immokalee and that Fred Thomas has assisted them in the Immokalee area. She thought that the biggest challenge throughout the county in reaching minorities was language and educating adults about scouting. Kelly Daley inquired whether an HAAB member or designee would be interested in ~ joining the scouts as well as asking for any other contact information re~ Hispanic community. She passed out contact cards to HAAB members. avid Correa recommended Pete Cade as the contact from the HAAB. Frank Loney stated that he would speak with St. Peters Church regarding the East Naples minority adult community that might be able to serve as leaders for scouting. MR. NOGA.JIHARVEST FOR HUMANITY Dick Nogaj, President of Harvest for Humanity, addressed the HAAB. He mentioned that Harvest for Humanity is a not-for-profit organization. He thanked the Board members for the opportunity to appear before the HAAB. He described his background as being a registered professional engineer from Illinois and Florida. He said that he created a large engineering firm and sold the company to its employees. He set up a foundation in Immokalee. He said that he found the conditions in Immokalee to be comparable to the Dominican Republic. He said that it was possible to build farms, as well as hom~r farm workers. He said that he had started the Harvest for Humanity farm on 26 a es in Immokalee. The first commercial harvest is expected in 2002. The 5 .. .,,, "'.._-.~_.^ <--'", ._-"..,---~_._- ",~,_,~__.,"_,,_,_.__'_M_' __'''_~.,_.._."~H _.,' ,_~.__....,~_,_._.,_w ."...~"'"._.__._"_~.~w_ " ".'_.,._,..u__._.,'__ farm in Immokalee involves full year around work and living wages with year around diversified crops. There are also affordable housing and development initiatives. He said that visitors are invited and to merely call 657-4588. He explained that after the farm workers go through training for three or four years they are given stock options to buy the farm. Blueberries are the cash crop. They sell very quickly. He said that they wanted other growers to endorse the concept of living wages. They are in the process of setting I up groups to promote tax credits to support the living wage campaign. He distributed an article from the Naples Daily News (attached) which explains the tax creditslliving wage program. He said that there is a need to look at f~ as a stable, year around living ~r . wage occupation. He thought that tremendO~y ~_ le onomic development could occur in Immokalee with this concept. He said the ke IS t~r legislation for tax credits for growers that pay living wages. Mr. Nogaj stated that Congress (he has conferred with ~raham) needs to amend existing tax credit law to include living wage growers n a be authorized to be put on crops in stores displaying the living wage label. T ese products can be safely grown in the United States and help eliminate poverty. Mr. Nogaj mentioned that, in his opinion, the alternative legislation being proposed for "Guest-Workers" would be the equivalent of involuntary servitude and result in money leaving the Immokalee area to support fa~~ in other nations. By contrast, the living wage concept will help growers wit \(ec nomic problems and their products will be another type of crop to choose from e public. He emphasized that the key for accomplishing the living wage/tax credit program was for the growers to have economic incentives and that he was asking the HAAB and others to support this concept. Robert Pina asked why some growers' crops get subsidized? Mr. Nogaj responded that it was principally due to lobbies and political connections. He promised that Senator Graham's office would listen to any comments on this topic. He clarified that his living wage concept is not a subsidy. He said that the program provides a guarantee of a living wage to workers by certifying same on the products. He thinks that it is necessary to have the agricultural market treat their workers like other employers. He stated that he has also spoken about this topic with Senator Nelson. Mr. Nogaj mentioned that a La ? Raza article which has an update on the guest worker alternative program. A ':'0/0',)' vf HI;""'" ill L~'-'l'-' ~.\ aUn 1 .1 III 11...::;;"t\.., JJl~~~tltBR Carlos Aviles said that he thought that this living . wage concept was a good idea. He thought that the Coalition of Immokalee Farm Workers' approach was being resisted by the growers. The living wage concept should not be resisted by growers because they will also benefit from it. Mr. Nogaj stated that the key is the payment of decent wages to farm workers. The growers cannot exist without the farm workers. He said that the farm workers are skilled and help with selective picking. He said that once the wages that are paid become high enough, other problems would also be positively affected. David Correa asked if Mr. Nogaj had conferred with the Immokalee Farm Worker Coalition. Mr. Nogaj said that he had, but they still had different approaches. Mr. Nogaj said that he was interested in contacting the HAAB . County Commission .o-J a. Il.llils elected representatives to support his concept. He/thought that there should be legislation proposed to support living wa@> opposed to the guest worker concept. 6 -""_'%..'-_._."..~..,~,.~-~~-~--_..,,_.'-"'~"~""-"~-- ,.",..~.;~..,~_.. __ .".,.__'._~_.~~_"_._u__~,,_.,...,,,,_.~=, ..,._....._..._..',...._~_..".--- David Correa mentioned that he would consider the submittal of an agenda item to the County Commission in February on the living wage concept. Mr. Pina mentioned that perhaps the Board would be interested in meeting in Immokalee and touring the facilities. 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