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NOTICE OF MEETING & AGENDA
COLLIER COUNTY HISPANIC AFFAIRS ADVISORY BOARD
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 27, 2001
7:00 P.M.
County Commission Meeting Room
Turner Building (Building F), Third Floor
Collier County Government Center, Naples, Florida
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NOTICES
** Public comments will be limited to 5 minutes unless permission for additional time is granted by the Chairman.
Collier County Ordinance No. 99.22 requires that all lobbyists shall, before engaging in any lobbying activities
(including, but not limited to, addressing the Board of County Commissioners) before the Board of County
Commissioners and its advisory boards, register with the Clerk to the Board at the Board Minutes and Records
Department.
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AGENDA
I. 7:00 P.M: Meeting called to order and determination of quorum.
II. Welcome new members to the Board
III. Approval of minutes of the July 26, 2001 meeting.
IV. Approval of minutes of the August 23, 2001 meeting.
V. Determination of excusal of absences from the meetings.
VI. Discussions:
Update from Chairman Correa regarding farm worker issues.
VII. Old Business:
VIII. New Business
Discussion by David Correa about banks charging employeellaborers who receive
salary by check a $3.00 fee for cashing the check in the issuing bank when the
employeellaborer has no account with the bank.
IX. Public Comments. **
X Meeting adjourns.
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GOODMAN, GLAZER, GREENER & KREMER, P. C., OF MEMPHIS, TN., ATTORNEYS
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September 28, 2001
Mr. Ramiro Manalich, Chief
Assistant County Attorney
Collier County Attorney's Office
3301 Tamiami Trail East
Naples, FL 34112-4902
Re: Hispanic Affairs Advisorv Board
Dear Mr. Manalich:
I am a new member of the Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board. I
missed the meeting in August, about which I advised everyone in
advance, because I was on vacation and out of the City on the date
of the meeting. I missed the meeting in September for a different
reason: I never received notice of the meeting.
I would certainly hope that I will receive timely notice of
future meetings, including an agenda for the meeting and perhaps
telephone contact prior to the meeting if there is going to be
something controversial discussed at the meeting or something as to
which I need to prepare.
I really want to serve in a proper manner, but I will not
continue to be a member of the Board unless I receive proper
information regarding the meetings in t.he future.
I respectfully request. that you send a copy of this let.ter t.o
the Chairman of the Commission.
With kindest regards,
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MEMORANDUM
TO: Sue Filson, Administrative Assistant
Board 0 nty Commissioners
FROM: Ram Mafialich, Chief Assistant County Attorney
DATE: September 28,2001
RE: Approved Minutes of the July and September Meetings of the Collier County
Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board
Please find attached the approved minutes of the Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board meetings
of July 26, 2001 and August 23, 200l. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to
contact me.
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cc: David C. Weigel, County Attorney
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HISPANIC AFFAIRS ADVISORY BOARD
MINUTES OF MEETING
of
September 27, 2001
PRESENT: ABSENT:
Carlos Aviles, HAAB Member Eugene Greener, HAAB Member (Excused)
Sofia Pagan, HAAB Member
David Correa, HAAB Member
Susan Calkins, HAAB Member ALSO PRESENT:
Frank Loney, HAAB Member John Norman, citizen
Robert Pin a, HAAB Member
Pete Cade, Jr., HAAB Member
Ramiro Mafialich, Chief Assistant County Attorney
and HAAB Staff Liaison
The September 27, 2001 meeting of the Collier County Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board (HAAB)
began at approximately 7:07 p.m. in the Board of County Commissioners meeting room. A quorum of
7 members was present.
APPROVAL OF JULY AND AUGUST, 2001 MINUTES
The Board reviewed the minutes of the July 26, 2001 meeting. Frank Loney made a motion to
approve the minutes and it was seconded by Susan Calkins. The Board voted 7-0 in favor of
approving the motion.
The Board also considered the minutes of August 23, 2001 and a motion was made by Robert Pina to
approve said minutes. Frank Loney provided a second. A correction was included in the motion to
reference that Mr. Norman is !h not the. director of Cinco de Mayo Festival in Immokalee. As
amended, the Board voted 7-0 to approve the motion.
HAAB REVIEW OF MEMBER ABSENCES
A discussion was held regarding attendance standards in the HAAB ordinance and excusal of
absences. With respect to Mr. Greener, Liaison Ramiro Mafialich reported that Mr. Greener had been
in contact with the County Attorney Office prior to tonight's meeting and that Mr. Greener's office
indicated they had not received timely notice of the September meeting. With regard to Mr. Greener's
absence in August, Ramiro Mafialich reminded the members that Mr. Greener had previously stated at )
thc July meeting that he had been prescheduled to be away at the time of the August meeting and that
those plans had been in existence prior to his appointmcnt to the HAAB. Susan Calkins madc a
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motion to excuse both of Mr. Greener's absences. Robert Pina provided a second. The Board voted
. 7-0 in favor ofthe motion.
Frank Loney commented about his absence in May by stating that there had been illnesses in the
family at that time. A motion to excuse the absence was made by Robert Pina and seconded by Carlos
Aviles. The Board voted 7-0 in favor of the motion. Sofia Pagan explained that in May and June of
2001 she had had problems in attendance because of illness and Red Cross commitments. Frank
Loney made a motion to excuse both absences which was seconded by Pete Cade. The Board voted 7-
o in favor of the motion.
Robert Pina explained that in May he missed the HAAB meeting due to an operation. A motion was
made to excuse the absence by Frank Loney and seconded by Susan Calkins. The Board voted 7-0 in
favor of the motion.
F ARMWORKER ISSUES
David Correa informed the HAAB that he had made contacts with members of the County
Commission about farmworker issues. He stated that it was his impression that Commissioner
Colletta would support the HAAB's request for the County Commission and/or the Governor to make a
plea for dialog about farm worker issues between the growers and the farmworkers. He said that he
had explained to the Commissioners with whom he met that this is not a labor-management issue, but
rather an economic-social issue in Immokalee affecting the Hispanic community. David also
explained that he had met with Commissioner Henning and it was his impression that Commissioner
Henning would not support said request of the HAAB because Commissioner Henning appears to
believe that it is a labor-management matter. David stated that in his meeting with Commissioner
Carter, the Commissioner appeared inclined to support the plea for dialog between the farmworkers
and the growers. He also mentioned that Mr. Carter had suggested having a forum on the matter
including Florida Gulf Coast University's cap!lbilities for dispute resolution. David thought that was a
good idea but he was not sure if FGCU would require payment to provide these services. He
wondered if the County Commission would pay for such services? David said that he thought that Mr.
Carter would prefer that the matter came to the County Commission after the November elections.
Mr. Carter seemed to think that the matter would recei ve a more favorable reception at that time.
Frank Loney commented that he has long been involved in the farmworker issue. He did not prefer to
wait to present this item to the County Commission. He emphasized that the HAAB is not asking for
specific negotiations, just for dialog. He stated that the HAAB proposal is not asking for dollars to
compete with other ballot items in November. He thought the issue needed attention now because
there are too many impacts in the comrnunity.
Mr. Norman commented that the average farmworker in Immokalee makes only around $8000 per
year. He said it was hard to get accurate data because many of the farmworkers do not have social
security numbers. He says that many times taxes are taken out of their wages but nothing comes back
to them from the federal government because they are constantly on the move to other migrant jobs.
'He also reminded everyone that the farmworker's occupation is subject to weather conditions.
David Correa commented that the growers have refused to sit down at the table to discuss wages with
the farrnworkers. He mentioned that the Governor has previously sent a representative to Immokalee
but there has been no significant progress. Sofia Pagan added that the growers deal with contractors.
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She thought there were-two ways to look at the situation: the first was to get the farmers to improve
living conditions; and the second was to improve the educational opportunities for the young people so
that they can hold better paying jobs. She said it was necessary to break the chain of repeated
generations doing the same low paying jobs.
Frank Loney mentioned that it is difficult for illegal workers to cooperate with law enforcement. The
growers continue to make profits; the workers do not even have social security numbers and still have
taxes taken out of their wages. He mentioned that in Costa Rica the law requires that education be
provided to citizens through the first two years of college.
Mr. Norman observed that Immigration is never around when the growers need the workers in the
field. He says that the pattern has been that after the crops are picked, Immigration shows up and
rounds up ilIegals. He said this is kind of a standing joke in Immokalee. He mentioned that it costs
the worker money to return to the United States. He commented that despite deplorable conditions in
Immokalee, the workers return because the conditions in Immokalee are still better than those that they
face in Mexico or other countries. He mentioned that there is a big push for reform and that President
Bush has advanced a proposal to recognize the legal status of workers. Carlos Aviles added that even
if the workers are granted legal status, the issue will not disappear. He said that children in
lmmokalee need mentors. He cited Manny Touron, who is a principal in Immokalee and is a very
good role model. He said that there is a need for Immokalee children to aspire to goals beyond high
school and farm work. Susan Calkins asked if businesses in lmmokalee were giving children
openings for educational opportunities. Pete Cade added that Redlands Christian Migrant Association
and the high school are involved in job training and mentoring. He said that recent! y there was
program that featured an author about migrant life but there was small attendance.
Frank Loney commented that he has been a member of Alcoholics Anonymous for 20+ years and has
been sober for that time. He mentioned that he use to be a soccer player and has coached the
Optimists' Club youth soccer league. He said that he requires good grades for the children on their
soccer team to be eligible to play. He thinks that it is necessary to have the Immokalee community
educated and involved in requiring all high school children to be exposed to career alternatives. More
importantly, the growers need to sit down and talk with the workers showing respect for human
dignity. He is not asking that the County Commission get involved in any terms of employment,
merely in the plea for dialog between the parties. Sofia Pagan agreed that the problems will continue
to exist if the causes of the problems are not addressed.
Mr. Norman stated that he had never been a field worker but he has observed for several years the
people in Immokalee and they are hard workers. He said many of them are uneducated and young and
come from Mexico. From the census, it was determined that many of the workers have no schooling
and cannot even count the money they are paid. He mcntioned that in Naples, many of the
construction, hotel and other service workers are coming from lmmokalee. The main problem is for
the field workers. There is no doubt they are taken advantage of by employers but they continue to
do the work because they are still better off than in Mexico. Mr. Pina recalled his Chicago high
school experience where students were strongly encouraged to either pursue a university education or
vocational/trade preparation. He thought that that type of emphasis was needed in this community
where a large percentage of the students do not go to college. Mr. Norman agreed saying that many
technicians are making more money than college graduates.
There was a brief discussion about the timing of the presentation to be made at the Board of County
Commissioners. Susan Calkins questioned whether there was a nccd to prcscnt powerful personal
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testimony. Mr. Norman stated that on a positive note, there were lots of housing projects underway in
Imrnokalee and that short term rents are available to workers so that they can avoid a double rent as
they move between jobs.
A motion was made by Susan Calkins to bring this matter to the Board of County Commissioners, if
possible, at the October 23rd County Commission meeting. Specifically, a request of the Hispanic
Board for the County Commission to request dialog between the growers and the workers and for the
County Commission to request that the Governor also make the same plea for dialog. This is based on
dialog being good for the Immokalee community and the County. The motion was seconded by Frank
Loney. There was a 7-0 vote in favor of the motion.
Susan Calkins asked whether Immokalee Civic Association Representative, Terry Aviles, could
participate in the presentation.
IMMOKALEE BANK PRACTICES
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David Correa mentioned a concern that he had regarding aR lmlHGkalllll llaRk which is charging
laborers to cash checks when the worker's employer does its banking at the same bank. David said
this is a hardship on workers. He asked whether the HAAB should takc a position on this. David
said he felt this practice is wrong where the laborer is paid b~ ~r.~rom the same bank where he is
trying to cash the check. He thought that Commissioner Cellllha might bc willing to write a letter
taking an interest in this matter. Frank Loney commented that he thought there were legal
requirements that affected these types of practices. Mr. Norman stated that it is not just the Bank of
America that has this practice. He said that banks argue that there is no guarantee the employer will
have funds in the bank merely because the employer has an account with the bank. The bank
maintains that it has to pay a percentage of money to insure that funds will be available for cashing the
checks. He suggested that a HAAB representative should confer with Steve Price of Florida
Community Bank in Immokalee.
Robert Pina made a motion for Chairman Correa to investigate this matter with the banks and report
back at the Octobcr, 200 I meeting. There was a second by Frank Loney. The Board votcd 7-0 in
favor of the motion.
The meeting of the HAAB was adjourned at approximately 8:54 p.m.
Prepared by: Ramiro Manalich, Chief Assistant County Attorney and HAAB Staff Liaison
Approved by the Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board on this K1ay of ~ ,200l.
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David Correa, Chairman
WRMlHAAB/Minutes
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NOTICE OF MEETING & AGENDA
COLLIER COUNTY HISPANIC AFFAIRS ADVISORY BOARD
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 27, 2001
7:00 P.M.
County Commission Meeting Room
Turner Building (Building F), Third Floor
Collier County Government Center, Naples, Florida
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NOTICES
** Public comments will be limited to 5 minutes unless permission for additional time is granted by the Chairman.
Collier County Ordinance No. 99-22 requires that all lobbyists shall, before engaging in any lobbying activities
(including, but not limited to, addressing the Board of County Commissioners) before the Board of County
Commissioners and its advisory boards, register with the Clerk to the Board at the Board Minutes and Records
Department.
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AGENDA
I. 7:00 P.M: Meeting called to order and determination of quorum.
II. Welcome new members to the Board
III. Approval of minutes of the July 26, 2001 meeting.
IV. Approval of minutes of the August 23, 2001 meeting.
V. Determination of excusal of absences from the meetings.
VI. Discussio'ns:
Update from Chairman Correa regarding farm worker issues.
VII. Old Business:
VIII. New Business
Discussion by David Correa about banks charging employee/laborers who receive
salary by check a $3.00 fee for cashing the check in the issuing bank when the
employee/laborer has no account with the bank.
IX. Public Comments. **
X Meeting adjourns.
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NAACP and La Raza conventions highlight
new places for nation's largest minority groups
By DEBORAH KlING million in 2000. Hispanics now JnIlan Bond told the convention. est amount of power. Together
Associated Press rival non-Hispanic blacks as the "The peril is that our old ene- we can constitute a mlgh1;y,
country's largest minori1;y group. mies will lind Wllyll to separate mlgh1;y force for right," Bond
MILWAUKEE _ Huddled in a "Whereas blacks have been us and divide US." said.
New York apartment In 1909, th~ kind of established racial At the nationallev~1 there has A glance at La Raza's confer-
civil rights activists convened mmori1;y group that have made been a long-establuhed rela- ence speakers shows an influen-
the first meeting of the NACCP 'their way Into politics, ~tinos tionshlp and a commo~ ag"'!'in tiallist: Senate Ma,iorl1;y Leader
and vowed to light for anti- are the, emerging groul" sal~ be~een blacks an,d Hispam.cs, Tom Daschle, Sen. Joseph Lie-
lynching laws, president Kwelsl Panla McClain, a political SCI- saId La Raza spokeswoman LIsa bennan and Energy Secretary
Mfume reminded delegates at en~e and law professor at DUke Navarrete. ,Spencer Abraham. Mexican
last week's convention. ,Umversi1;y. "At the local level, It's much President Vieente Fox will also
Several generations later, La Raza will use its eonfer- more probl!""atic. There are a speak at the conference.
Mfume said the National Assoel- ence to convene workshops to lot of areas m the country where "Politicians know that in order
ation for the Advancement of study the emerging Latino eom- there are increased tensions to get elected and maintain stat-
Colored. People is still englll!ed munltles in the southeast and and a com!,etltlon for dwindilng ure, they're going to have to'
m fighting hate crimes, eltlng what the 2000 census means to resources, she said. . speak to the growing Hispanic
the case of James Byrd, a black the nation. The baWe for housing, lobs, population" said Jim Johnson, a
~an dragged t~ his death from a But the meeting agendas also gove.rnment fund~ and, social professor ~f management at the
pICkup truck m 1998 by three reveal that the two groups are semces is likely to mcrease, 0)<- UnIversl1;y of North Carolina at
w1}ites. . also trying to figure. out I!ow to perts say. The groups may also Chapel Hill.
Jhe greater fight IS before relate to eaeh other m their new c.lash over political represent&- La Raza senior vice president
us, Mfume said. roles. tlon, as they did in the recent Charles Kamasakl said Hispan-
As the National Council of La La Raza, is devoting a panel Los Angeles mayoral el~on. ics are optimistic about "not just
Raza meets throngh We\lnesday, specifically to black-Hispanic But blacks and HispanIc. have the growth of the population,
members too will focus.on th,e relations. .. worked together on key ISSUes. but the increasing political and
future - but for th,e Hispamc At the NAACP meeting m New T,he NAACP, La Raza and other economic clout that comes with
advocacy group It u a future Orleans, there were repeated CIvil rights groups baeked re- '1, th in ing
promising increasing influence calls for the group to reach out cently introduced legislation I e craas accep~~~e
and power. to non-black minorities. that would ban racial proliting and recognition by the public.
Census date shows the Hispan- "The emergence of new and vi- by federal agencies.
ie population grew 58 percent brant populations of people of "It doesn't make sense for l
nationwide in the tast decade - color holds great promise and blacks and Hispanics to argue
from 22.4 million in 1990 to 35.3 great peril," NAACP chainnan over whleh of us has the small-
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Variety of bills tackle regulation issues
for farmworkers
IV1oncJay, July 16,2001
By JENNIFER SERGENT, sergentj@shns.com
Farmworker rights are becoming a hot topic in Washington these days, with the United States and
Mexico negotiating guest-worker programs and three forms of legislation that are either in the works or
have already been introduced.
But because there are so many competing ideas and concepts, some doubt that the politics will ever
translate into reality.
Sen. Bob Graham, D-Miami Lakes, came within an inch of passing major legislation last year that both
growers and farmworkers supported, but Sen. Phil Gramm, R-Texas, put a halt to the bill at the last
minute, objecting to its amnesty provisions.
Both Graham and Gramm are back this year. Graham is planning to re-introduce his bill from last year,
while Gramm is contemplating guest-worker legislation that would force workers back to their home
countries when the harvest season is over.
Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho,joined the mix last week with his own bill. Several conservative Republicans
and growers support it, but farmworkers strenuously oppose it.
On the diplomatic level, the Mexican government has told the Bush administration that they will not
accept any new guest-worker program that doesn't offer broad "regularization," which would allow
Mexican workers to legally live in the United States and have access to benefits such as Social Security.
Back in Florida, migrant worker Lucas Benitez says none of the talk in Washington addresses workers'
true needs: better wages and improved working conditions.
"In the long term, this isn't the path to better working conditions and better treatment," said Benitez, who
is based in Immokalee. He spoke through a Spanish translator.
The government needs to include agricultural workers in the list of groups covered by the National
Labor Relations Act, he said.
That would allow groups such as Benitez's Coalition of Immokalee Workers to unionize and lobby for
an increase in the minimum wage, he said.
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Politically, that's not going to happen. Such issues are not even on the table as farmworker talks proceed
in Washington.
But there is one goal that farmworker advocates and growers share: the desire to legalize the large
population of workers already living in the United States.
That's why Graham and Craig both contemplate an amnesty program. Under both proposals, workers
would earn legal residency by working varying numbers of days within six years, provided they were
already living in the United States and working the fields for a certain amount of time before the
legislation passes.
But Gramm is adamantly opposed to amnesty. He says it would effectively grant growers the ability to
choose whom they wish to confer citizenship upon by keeping immigrant workers employed.
In the Senate, it only takes one senator to keep a bill from going to a vote.
"Anything that smacks of (amnesty) well oppose," Gramm spokesman Larry Neal said.
The mention of amnesty has the Mexican government treading lightly. Although officials argue for
"regularization," they know the "A-word" is too politically explosive to discuss.
"We have been very careful not to use the 'amnesty' word," said Miguel Monterruvio, press secretary at
the Mexican Embassy in Washington. "What we are asking for is the regularization of Mexicans who
are leaving (Mexico)."
Whether it's called amnesty or regularization, though, the concept will be difficult to pass in Congress.
Gramm has allies in fellow Texas Republicans Tom DeLay, the House Majority Whip, and Lamar
Smith, who sits on the House Immigration Subcommittee.
There is not much negotiating room between one side that wants to offer more green cards and another
that doesn't want to give out any green cards, immigration expert Mark Krikorian said.
"There will be a lot of sound and fury, but there's enough resistance to an idea for amnesty for illegal
aliens that it's going to be difficult to get something through," said Krikorian, the executive director of
the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington think tank that favors limiting immigration.
The center's research director completed a report last week detailing the negative effects of unlimited
flows of unskilled immigrants - particularly Mexicans - into the United States.
Increasing the supply of unskilled labor does not affect most American workers, but it does depress
wages for the lowest-paid working poor, the report said.
The report also showed that immigrants and Mexicans are much more likely than native-born Americans
to live in poverty, be without health insurance and use welfare.
In Florida, about 47 percent of immigrants live in poverty, compared to 20 percent of natives, the report
said. Twenty-one percent of immigrants use welfare, compared to 8 percent of natives. And while 33
percent of immigrants are without health insurance, only 15.3 of Americans in Florida are uninsured.
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Bringing more guest workers into the country - even temporarily - would prove to be a further drain
on the economy and public services, research director Steven A. Camarota wrote.
"The focus needs to be on thinking about ways to bring down the numbers," he said.
Meanwhile, growers say they desperately need more farmworkers - either documented U.S. residents
or on loan from other countries.
"We've been at this for a long time and it's getting to a crisis point," said Sharon Hughes, executive vice
president of the National Council of Agricultural Employers in Washington.
But the amnesty bills being offered - with their working requirements to earn legal residency-
amounts to indentured servitude, Krikorian said.
"It's really little more than an attempt by employers to hold down wage costs," he said. "Farmworker
wages are down 10 percent in the 1990s. If you need more of something, you don't offer less money for
it."
One of the major differences between Graham's bill and Craig's bill is the wage rate.
Graham would offer the average rate of all agricultural jobs - skilled and unskilled - in an area to
guest workers employed there. Craig would offer just the prevailing rate for the specific job the guest
worker would take, such as picking tomatoes. That rate, which the growers are lobbying for, amounts to
much less than what Graham is offering.
Rob Williams, the director of the Florida Migrant Farmworker Justice Project in Tallahassee, bluntly
said Craig's bill wouldn't pass. He cited the wage issue as the main reason, in addition to the fact that
workers would have to work much longer in the fields to earn legal residency than what Graham
contemplates.
But last year's momentum for Graham's bill is probably gone, Williams added.
"We've lost the opportunity to pass a good bill," he said.
Although many hold out hope that something positive for farmworkers will result from the U.S.-Mexico
talks, the amnesty foes in Congress still might pose an insurmountable hurdle.
"It's entirely possible the competing versions of guest-worker programs might well crash and burn,"
Krikorian said.
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MEMORANDUM
TO: Sue Filson, Administrative Assistant
FROM: ~~o~nt: Commissioners
Ramiro Maiialich, Chief Assistant County Attorney
DATE: September 12, 2001
RE: Resignation of Member from the Collier County Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board
Attached is a resignation that this office received by fax today from Yolanda Cisneros of the
Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board. Please send out public notice for applications for this Board.
Thank you for your assistance. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact
me.
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cc: David C. Weigel, County Attorney
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09/12/01 WED 10:40 FAX 941 657 5125 IMM. ADM. CCPR \gI002
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August 24, 2001
My name is Yolanda Cisneros and it is with a heavy heart and deep regret that I resign
my position from the Hispanic Advisory Board.
Even though my term bas only been for a few months, I have enjoyed it eXtremely and
would not resign willingly except for the fact that I am now a County em~loyee and
therefore cannot serve on the Board.
I would like to still be on some kind of a mailing list so as to be able to r~ceive notices
and agenda's to the monthly meetings and I would still like to be considered an interested
member and intend to continue to attend the meeting. I would like the re~ of the Board
members to know I enjoyed my membership tremendously and hope to SCjlmeclay be able
to participate in an activity as a member of the community ofImmokaleeiand Collier
County.
Sincerely,
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Yolanda Cisneros
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COLLIER COUNTY
DAVID C. WEIGEL
COLLIER COUNTY ATTORNEY
3301 Tamiami Trail Easl Heidi F. Ashlon
Naples, Florida 34112.4902 JenniferA.Belpedio
Telephone: (941) 774.8400 Ellen l. Chadwell
Romiro Mmiolich
FAX: (941)774.0225 William E. Mountford
September 20, 2001 Thomos C. Palmer
Michael W. Pettit
Jocqueline Hubbord Robinson
Marjorie M. Student
Potrick G. While
RoberlN.Zochory
Mr. Carlos Aviles
713 North 9th Street
Immokalee, Florida 34142
Re: Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board Meeting Scheduled for September 27,2001
Dear Mr. Aviles:
The Board of County Commissioners will be considering your appointment to the Collier
County Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board (HAAB) on Tuesday, September 25, 2001. In
anticipation of your appointment to this Board, I welcome you. I am enclosing a copy of the
codified version of the Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board Ordinance and a 1995 memorandum
addressing the State's Sunshine Laws.
The next meeting of the HAAB is scheduled to be held at the County Commission Meeting
Room on Thursday, September 27,2001 at 7:00 P.M. I am enclosing the agenda for this
meeting. If you are unable to appear at this meeting or if you have any questions relating to the
enclosures or the HAAB in general, please do not hesitate to contact me or my Assistant, Kay by
Wednesday, September 26,2001.
,
Sincerely, , ~
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Ramiro Mafialich
Chief Assistant County Attorney and
Staff Liaison to the Collier County
Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board
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cc: David C. Weigel, County Attorney
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COLLIER COUNTY
DAVID Co WEIGEL
COLLIER COUNTY AlTORNEY
3301 Tamiami Trail East Heidi F. Ashlon
Naples Florida 34112.4902 Jennifer A. Helpedio
, Ellen 1. Chodwell
Telephone: 19411774.8400 Romiro Monoli,h
FAX: 19411774.0225 Williom E. MounlF"d
Thomas C. Palmer
September 20, 200 I Mi,hoel W. Pellil
Jacqueline Hubbard Robinson
Moriorie M. Student
Patrick G. While
RoberIN.Zo{hory
Mr. Pete Cade, Jr.
1903 Leed Avenue
Immokalee, Florida 34142
Re: Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board Meeting Scheduled for September 27, 2001
Dear Mr. Cade:
The Board of County Commissioners will be considering your reappointment to the Collier
County Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board (HAAB) on Tuesday, September 25,2001. In
anticipation of your appointment to this Board, I welcome you. I am enclosing a copy of the
codified version of the Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board Ordinance and a 1995 memorandur.1
addressing the State's Sunshine Laws.
The ncxt meeting of the HAAB is scheduled to be held at the County Commission Meeting
Room on Thursday, September 27,2001 at 7:00 P.M. I am enclosing the agenda for this
meeting. If you are unable to appear at this meeting or if you have any questions relating to the
enclosures or the HAAB in general, please do not hesitate to contact me or my Assistant, Kay by
Wcdnesday, September 26, 2001.
Sincerely,
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Ramiro Maiialich
Chief Assistant County Attorney and
Staff Liaison to the Collier County
Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board
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cc: David C. Weigel, County Attorney
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