HAAB Minutes 10/02/1996
Minutes
Hispanic Affairs
Advisory Board
Meeting
October 2, 1996
HISPANIC AFFAIRS ADVISORY BOARD
MINUTES OF MEETING
October 2, 1996
COLLIER COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER
ADMINISTRATION BUILDING
THIRD FLOOR, BCC BOARD ROOM
3301 EAST T AMIAMI TRAIL
NAPLES, FLORIDA
PRESENT:
Ramiro Mafialich, Chief Assistant County Attorney, BCC Liaison to HAAB
David Correa, HAAB Member
Eva Delashrnet, HAAB Member
Frank Loney, HAAB Member
Frank Rodriguez, HAAB Member
Pedro Vazquez, HAAB Member
Armando Ayala, HAAB Member
Victor A. Valdes
Tammy Delashrnet
Edgardo Temeiro, HAAB Member
Alexis Yarbray
Dennis Mitchell
ABSENT:
Manuel Laso, HAAB Member
Mireya Louvier, HAAB Member
The October 2, 1996 meeting of the Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board for Collier County
convened at approximately 7:30 p.m. Chairman, Frank Rodriguez welcomed all present, and
introduced the members of the Hispanic Board.
Motion was made by David Correa, seconded by Armando Ayala and Pedro Vazquez to approve
the minutes of April 25, 1996. A unanimous vote was made in favor of said motion.
Frank Rodriguez brought up a discussion regarding a pending letter to Naples Community
Hospital regarding a prior meeting with hospital representatives about the alleged foreign
language restriction policy at the hospital. A draft letter was circulated among the members and
discussed. Member Loney expressed a concern regarding Naples Community Hospital still not
being open to the use of other languages. Edgardo Temeiro stated that he is still employed by
NCH, and that he does not believe there is a clear policy regarding the usage of other languages
and how employees should relate to patients and others who speak different languages. He
believed an inquiry to NCH was still needed, and that policy clarification should be requested.
He thought that the hospital should want to communicate with customers of the hospital in the
language that the customers can understand. Frank Rodriguez stated that there were competing
concerns regarding the Hispanic Board not having the power to direct business decisions of
NCH, while at the same time the Hispanic Board properly insisting that NCH comply with their
Mission Statement of service to a multicultural community. Mr. Vasquez saw no justification for
NCH's alleged language restriction and Armando Ayala opined that an NCH clarification should
be requested by letter. Ayala suggested that the only change to the proposed letter should be at
point B regarding a specific request for clarification from NCH as to its specific policy on the
usage of foreign languages. David Correa emphasized that everyone should be courteous as to
all languages used by others, and that there is a need for clari fication from the hospital once and
for all on their language usage policy.
A motion was made by Armando Ayala for approval of the proposed letter to NCH with a
change at point B to state that if no policy exists, then there is a need to create a policy to clarify
the matter for all concerned. His motion included authorization for the Chairman to send said
letter. The motion was seconded by Frank Loney, and a unanimous vote was had approving the
motion.
Frank Rodriguez raised a question as to whether Ramiro Mafialich, Chief Assistant County
Attorney and liaison to the Hispanic Board, will have sufficient time to be present for all
Hispanic Board meetings. He emphasized the need to continue having the Hispanic Board
meetings, even ifRamiro Mafialich cannot attend all of said meetings.
Ramiro Mafialich offered the following report:
I. Mr. Laso had called-in that he was unable to attend tonight's meeting
because of a conflicting work assignment. The Chairman agreed that that was a
satisfactory excuse. Ramiro indicated that he could not recall if member Louviere
had contacted him with an excuse for not attending this meeting, and he stated
that he would check with member Louviere.
2. Ramiro shared the Collier County Public Health Unit's Annual Report,
which had been provided by Dr. Polkowski for review by the Hispanic Board. A
discussion was held regarding the Public Health Unit, Immokalee and the lack of
Hispanics on the Health Unit Oversight Board. Member Temeiro emphasized that
Collier Health Services, Inc. and Naples Community Hospital provide most
Hispanic health care, and that they need the Hispanic Board's input. Motion was
made by David Correa for the Chairman to contact CHSI, CCPHU, and NCH
regarding Hispanic input as to health care issues. This motion was seconded by
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Frank Loney and Edgardo Temeiro, and a unanimous vote was had in favor of the
motion.
3. Regarding the liaison to the Hispanic Board, it was the consensus of the
Board that Frank Rodriguez should remind Mireya Louviere to prepare a letter to
the County Attorney addressing the matter.
4. Ramiro reminded the members that there was a letterhead subcommittee
appointed. Frank Rodriguez mentioned that the Black Affairs Advisory Board has
already obtained letterhead. He requested that Ramiro check as to how the Black
Affairs Advisory Board obtained such letterhead and report back to the Hispanic
Board.
The next topic discussed was a followup to the March, 1996 discussion regarding Immokalee and
youth relations with law enforcement. Frank Rodriguez stated that Immokalee youth had voiced
the desire to have a better opportunity for communication with sheriffs officers. It was
mentioned that the sheriffs office is currently sending deputies into the schools as a way to
bridge the gap with the Hispanic Community. Frank Rodriguez thought that it was necessary to
expand this communication link beyond the schools. Armando Ayala stated that some officers
used in the communications program in Immokalee are not from the Immokalee community, and
that that may be a barrier to communication. A motion was made by David Correa, seconded by
Eva Delashrnet, for the Chairman to contact the Sheriffs office to arrange for a meeting between
the Board and the Sheriffs Office Youth Relations Division. A unanimous vote was made in
favor of the motion.
Frank Rodriguez suggested joint meetings between the Hispanic Affairs Advisory Boards of Lee
and Collier Counties. A motion was made by member Temeiro for the Chairman to contact the
Lee County Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board Chairman to explore the possibility of joint
meetings. The motion included granting the power to the Chairman to report back to the
Hispanic Board with a tentative schedule for meetings arranged with the Chairman of the Lee
County Hispanic Board. The motion was seconded by member Ayala and a unanimous vote was
made in favor of the motion.
Mr. Victor Valdez, Editor of Los Naciones Newspaper, was heard upon his request to make a
clarification and explanation regarding a discussion which he had with Officer Kistner of the
Collier County Sheriffs Department. Said discussion took place at the Board's scheduled
meeting in Immokalee in March of 1996, for which a quorum was not obtained. Mr. Valdez
specifically requested that the Minutes mention that Dennis Mitchell of the Sheriffs Department
was taping his comments. Mr. Valdes clarified that he would not comment regarding any
pending litigation. Mr. Valdes then provided a 16-page handout which he had prepared for the
Hispanic Board.
Mr. Valdes stated that it was the intent of his comments to dispute Officer Kistner's statements
that were made at the Immokalee meeting. Mr. Valdes clarified that he did not implicate Mr.
Kistner in public and police statements regarding an incident in which he was kidnapped. Mr.
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Valdes further stated that his comments tonight were to support his prior statements that Mr.
Kistner had lied when he denied Mr. Valdes' accusations about Kistner having Internal Affairs
complaints lodged against him. Mr. Valdes mentioned that he had done research into Internal
Affairs files and had found that there were two investigations that sustained this conduct by
Detective Kistner. He mentioned that as a result of the Sheriffs Internal Affairs investigation,
Detective Kistner had been ordered to counseling. Mr. Valdes mentioned that there were other
accusations against Mr. Kistner in the Internal Affairs files, some sustained and others not
sustained by the Sheriff. Mr. Valdes stated that Mr. Kistner had lied to the public regarding his
conduct, as demonstrated by Mr. Valdes' research into the Sheriffs Internal Affairs files. He
mentioned that he was aware of at least four cases against Officer Kistner in the Internal Affairs
files.
Liaison Ramiro Mafialich reminded the Board that they needed to vote regarding Mr. Valdes'
request to include these 16 pages of documents with the minutes of this meeting. A discussion
developed in which Frank Rodriguez indicated that he was reluctant to add these documents to
the minutes, since the Immokalee meeting had only been an informal discussion between Valdes
and Kistner, since there had not been a quorum, and no official minutes could exist for said
meeting. Mr. Valdes renewed his request for the documents to be part of the record, since
Sheriff's Officer Kistner had commented at the meeting in Immokalee in his official capacity.
Mr. Valdes also stated that Mr. Rodriguez has a conflict of interest in regard to Sheriffs matters.
At this point, liaison Ramiro Mafialich gave a summary of the event that had been scheduled in
Immokalee, and stated that no official meeting had occurred due to lack of a quorum. The
meeting had been properly noticed. Ramiro Maftalich further clarified that an informal
discussion was held in Immokalee because many members of the public had gathered for the
meeting despite the lack of a quorum. No official action was taken, but the discussion did take
place.
A motion was made by Eva Delashrnet to include Mr. Valdes' documents in the minutes of this
meeting. Member Temeiro seconded the motion, and a vote with six in favor, and one opposed
was had in favor ofthe motion. Frank Rodriguez cast the dissenting vote.
Frank Rodriguez mentioned to the Board that there was the need to nominate a new Vice Chair
to replace Neil Morales. Armando Ayala made a motion to nominate Frank Loney. Frank Loney
indicated that he would refuse said motion. At that point Armando Ayala withdrew the motion.
A motion by Mr. Temeiro was made to nominate member Ayala as Vice-Chairman. Ayala
indicated he would accept said motion of nomination. Frank Loney seconded the motion. There
were no other nominations, and a unanimous vote in favor of the motion was had.
In regard to new business, member Temeiro suggested that public comments should be at the
beginning of the agenda, so that the public would not have to wait for other discussion to give
their five minutes of comment. Frank Rodriguez also thought that a five minute limit warning
should be placed on the agenda to inform the public. Mr. Temeiro made a motion for the public
comments to be placed on the beginning of the agenda. A discussion was held, and Mr. Tenreiro
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then withdrew that motion. A motion was made by Mr. Tenreiro to indicate on the agenda that
there is a five minute limit per speaker with regard to public comments. The motion also
provided that it would be within the discretion of the Hispanic Board, and/or the Chair to allow
that time limit to be extended. The motion was seconded by Mr. Correa, and a unanimous vote
was made in favor of the motion.
The members discussed having the next meeting on Thursday, November 7, 1996 at 7:00 p.m. in
either the Board of County Commissioner's meeting room or in Immokalee.
The meeting of the Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board adjourned at approximately 9:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by:
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amiro Mafialich
Staff Liaison to the
Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board
APPROVED BY THE HISPANIC AFFAIRS ADVISORY
BOARD ON NOVEMBER 7,1996.
Frank Rodrigll Z
Chairman of the Bo
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