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05/17/2011 Backup Documents MEETING AGENDA CLAM BAY MARKER DISCUSSION GROUP TUESDAY, MAY 17,2011 - 9:30 A.M. TILL 11 :30 P.M. RISK MANAGEMENT TRAINING ROOM 3311 T AMIAMI TRAIL EAST, NAPLES I. Call to Order II. Pledge of Allegiance III. Changes and Approval Agenda IV. Approval of Minutes 1. March 15,2011 Minutes V. Update Marker Discussion through Stakeholder Representatives . Discussion/Agreement of sign age on Clam Pass bridge in Clam Pass County Park and at the Pelican Bay beach facility . Discussion of Seagate's proposed revision to the local knowledge sign . FWC participation . Next steps VI. Public Comments VII. Announcements with Follow-up VIII. Next Meeting DateILocation TBD IX. Adjournment * Public speakers are requested to do the following for any items presented to the Board: Display on each document the presenter's name and title of document. Provide a total of 7 copies of each handout, to be distributed as follows: 3 Board Members; J Minute Taker,' J County Attorney; 2 CZM Staffmembers. * The following websites will provide information, agendas and dates for this subcommittee: httD://www.collierl!ov.net/lndex.asox?oal!e=J8 htto://www.collierl!ov.net/lndex.asox?oul!e=2390 All interested partied are invited to attend, and to register to speak and to submit their objections, if any, in writing, to the board prior to the meeting if applicable. For more infonnation, please contact Gail D. Hambright at (239) 252-2966 If you are a person with a disability who needs any accommodation in order to participate in thiS proceeding, you are entitled, at no cost to you, to the provision of certain assistance Please contact the Collier County Facilities Management Department located at 3301 East Tamiami Trail, Naples, FL 34112, (239) 252-8380 Public comments will be limited to 3 minutes unless the Chairman grants permiSSion for additional time Collier County Ordinance No. 99-22 requires that all lobbyists shall, before engaging in any lobbying activities (including, but not limited to, addressing the Board of County Commissioners) before the Board of County Commissioners and its advisory boards, register with the Clerk to the Board at the Board Minutes and Records Department March 15,2011 MINUTES OF THE CLAM BAY DISCUSSION GROUP Human Resource Training Room #208 3309 Tamiami Trail E., Naples, FL March 15,2011 I. Call to Order The Discussion began at 2:00 pm The following Stakeholders were represented: Honorable John Sorey, City of Naples; Mary Johnson, Mangrove Action Group,' Steve Feldhaus, Pelican Bay Foundation; Keith Dallas, Pelican Bay Services Division; Marcia Cravens, Sierra Club; Kathy Worley, Conservancy of Southwest Florida,' Dr. Ernest Wu, Seagate Homeowners Assoc. Kathy Worley was not present. Ernest Wu arrived at 2: 15 p. m., Rick Dykman represented Seagate Homeowners Assoc. until Mr. Wu arrived. Marcia Cravens arrived at 3:35 p.m. The following Collier County Staff members were present: Gail Hambright, Accountant; Gary McAlpin, Director, Coastal Zone Management; Marla Ramsey, Administrator, Public Services. Georgia Hiller, Collier County Commissioner was also present. II. Pledge of Allegiance The Pledge of Allegiance was recited. III. Changes and Approval of Agenda Mr. Sorey moved to approve the Agenda. Second by Mr. Feldhaus. Carried unanimously 5 - O. March 15,2011 IV. Approval of Minutes 1. February 17,2011 minutes Mr. Sorey moved to approve the minutes of the February 17, 2011 meeting subject to the following changes: . Page 1, Item V., paragraph 1, line 3 - from "of the system from Clam Bay south of Seagate. , ." to of the system from Outer Clam Bay north of Seagate. .." . Page 2, Paragraph 2, #3 - from "Maintaining the historic navigational rights of the Seagate Community." to "Maintaining the historic navigational rights of boating access of the Seagate community." Second by Mr. Feldhaus. Carried unanimously 5 - O. Mr. Wu arrived at 2: 15 p.m. V. Update Marker Discussion through Stakeholder Representatives Gary McAlpin, Director of Coastal Zone Management, provided the following documents: . Copy of an email to him from Ryan Moreau, Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission dated March 2, 2011 - Subject "Clam Bay Discussion Group Material" . Document "Clam Pass - Marker Locations" and related examples of signs proposed for marking the system. . Document "Discussion with Ryan Moreau on 2/23/2011 based on questions from the Clam Bay marker workshop held on 2/17/2011" Ryan Moreau, Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission, (FFWCC) arrived via telephone at 2:30 p.m. to answer questions on the permit application for marking the system with canoe markers. Speakers Linda Roth, Pelican Bay Resident Selma Petker Arthur Chase, Pelican Bay Resident Ronnie Bellone, Pelican Bay Resident **Mr. Moreau, FFWCC, responded regarding permit. Ted Raia, Pelican Bay Resident Jim Pelton, Seagate Resident Len Rothman, Canoeist Rick Dykman, Sea gate Resident **Mr. Moreau, FFWCC, responded on time frame. Len Rothman **Mr. Moreau, FFWCC, responded Mr. Moreau left the meeting at 3:30 p.m. 2 March 15,2011 VI. Public Comments Speakers Ted Raia, Pelican Bay Resident Len Rothman Rick Dykman Jim Pelton Marcia Cravens arrived at 3:35 p.m. Ms. Cravens submitted the following documents: . "Recommendations for the Clam Pass/Clam Bay Uniform Waterway Markers Benefitting Safe Recreation Compatible with NRPA designated uses" from the Sierra Club, Calusa Group of Lee and Collier County, submitted to the Clam Bay Marker Discussion Group on 2/17/11 and 3/15/2011. . Copy of an email from Ryan Moreau to Pamela Keyes dated March 2, 2011 - Subject: Follow up e-mail per their phone conversation. Gary McAlpin polled the Stakeholders on their position on the proposed Plan for Marking the Clam Bay System. Ms. Johnson, Mangrove Action Group, supports the Plan, and recommends a shared permitting arrangement (PBSD/Collier County, Coastal Zone Management, etc.) Mr. Feldhaus, Pelican Bay Foundation, supports the Plan as it meets the goals identified, and recommended that public education be increased to inform the public on the mixed used ofthe system. The permit should be "signed off on" by the various parties, however, issued to Collier County (Coastal Zone Management) Mr. Sorey (for himself) supports the Plan Mr. Dallas (for himself) supports the Plan with the Pelican Bay Services Division "signing off' on the permit to ensure continuity. Mr. Wu, Seagate Homeowners Association, does not support the Plan, as the Associations members are opposed to the concept of canoe trail markers. Ms. Cravens, Sierra Club, supports the Plan, with the markers being integrated into the existing permit for the markers on the north end of the system. Mr. Sorey left the meeting at 3:50 p.m. Gary McAlpin stated he would report back to the Coastal Advisory Committee and Board of County Commissioners on the findings, and seek direction from the BCe. Commissioner Hiller recommended that the findings be reported to the Pelican Bay Services Division as well. VII. Announcements with Follow up None 3 March 15,2011 VIII. Next Meeting Date/Location TBD The Discussion ended at 4:00pm Clam Bay Discussion Group These minutes approved by the Discussion Group on as presented , or as amended 4 c o ~ = - w )( ::::>~QJ Z S~ ~ a:: ;> fa o W 0.5 - ,.. Z "'CI I- -0 ... Z w 10 ~~~~ t;:Oa.= ~Z(/)o ~wu ...I ...I ... <t 0 .! u-= 9 8 ~ co III ... cv E Z ~ E ~ .- Q & ~ I- cv "'C ~ III C ~ :) IV c:t ..!. ~ U ~ cv ~ ... 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