CBMDG Minutes 03/15/2011
March 15,2011
MINUTES OF THE CLAM BAY DISCUSSION GROUP
Human Resource Training Room #208
3309 Tamiami Trail E.,
Naples, FL March 15,2011
I. Call to Order
The Discussion began at 2:00 pm
The following Stakeholders were represented: Honorable John Sorey, City of
Naples; Mary Johnson, Mangrove Action Group,' Steve Feldhaus, Pelican Bay
Foundation,' Keith Dallas, Pelican Bay Services Division; Marcia Cravens, Sierra
Club; Kathy Worley, Conservancy of Southwest Florida; Dr. Ernest Wu, Seagate
Homeowners Assoc.
Kathy Worley was not present.
Ernest Wu arrived at 2: 15 p. m., Rick Dykman represented Seagate Homeowners
Assoc. until Mr. Wu arrived
Marcia Cravens arrived at 3:35 p.m.
The following Collier County Staff members were present: Gail Hambright,
Accountant; Gary McAlpin, Director, Coastal Zone Management,' Marla Ramsey,
Administrator, Public Services.
Georgia Hiller, Collier County Commissioner was also present.
II. Pledge of Allegiance
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
III. Changes and Approval of Agenda
Mr. Sorey moved to approve the Agenda. Second by Mr. Feldhaus. Carried
unanimously 5 - O.
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MEETING AGENDA
CLAM BAY MARKER DISCUSSION GROUP
TUESDAY, MARCH 15,2011 - 2:00 P.M. TILL 4:00 P.M.
HUMAN RESOURCE TRAINING ROOM #208
3309 T AMIAMI TRAIL EAST, NAPLES
I. Call to Order
II. Pledge of Allegiance
III. Changes and Approval Agenda
IV. Approval of Minutes
1. February 17,2011 Minutes
V. Update Marker Discussion through Stakeholder Representatives
· Discussion of Funding
· Stakeholder Discussion
· FWC Participation
VI. Public Comments
VII. Announcements with Follow-up
VIII. Next Meeting Date/Location
TBD
IX. Adjournment
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IV. Approval of Minutes
1. February 17,2011 minutes
Mr. Sorey moved to approve the minutes of the February 17,2011 meeting
subject to the following changes:
· Page 1, Item V., paragraph 1, line 3 - from "of the system from Clam Bay
south of Seagate..." to of the system from Outer Clam Bay north of
Seagate. . . "
· Page 2, Paragraph 2, #3 - from "Maintaining the historic navigational
rights of the Seagate Community." to "Maintaining the historic
navigational rights of boating access of the Seagate community."
Second by Mr. Feldhaus. Carried unanimously 5 - O.
Mr. Wu arrived at 2:15 p.m.
V. Update Marker Discussion through Stakeholder Representatives
Gary McAlpin, Director of Coastal Zone Management, provided the following
documents:
· Copy of an email to him from Ryan Moreau, Florida Fish and Wildlife
Conservation Commission dated March 2,2011 - Subject "Clam Bay
Discussion Group Material"
· Document "Clam Pass - Marker Locations" and related examples of signs
proposed for marking the system.
· Document "Discussion with Ryan Moreau on 2/23/2011 based on
questions from the Clam Bay marker workshop held on 2/17/2011 "
Ryan Moreau, Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission, (FFWCC)
arrived via telephone at 2:30 p.m. to answer questions on the permit application for
marking the system with canoe markers.
Speakers
Linda Roth, Pelican Bay Resident
Selma Petker
Arthur Chase, Pelican Bay Resident
Ronnie Bellone, Pelican Bay Resident
**Mr. Moreau, FFWCC, responded regarding permit.
Ted Raia, Pelican Bay Resident
Jim Pelton, Seagate Resident
Len Rothman, Canoeist
Rick Dykman, Seagate Resident
**Mr. Moreau, FFWCC, responded on time frame.
Len Rothman
**Mr. Moreau, FFWCC, responded
Mr. Moreau left the meeting at 3:30 p.m.
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VI. Public Comments
Speakers
Ted Raia, Pelican Bay Resident
Len Rothman
Rick Dykman
Jim Pelton
Marcia Cravens arrived at 3:35 p.m.
Ms. Cravens submitted the following documents:
· "Recommendations for the Clam Pass/Clam Bay Uniform Waterway
Markers Benefitting Safe Recreation Compatible with NRP A designated
uses" from the Sierra Club, Calusa Group of Lee and Collier County,
submitted to the Clam Bay Marker Discussion Group on 2/17/11 and
3/15/2011.
· Copy of an email from Ryan Moreau to Pamela Keyes dated March 2,
2011 - Subject: Follow up e-mail per their phone conversation.
Gary McAlpin polled the Stakeholders on their position on the proposed Plan for
Marking the Clam Bay System.
Ms. Johnson, Mangrove Action Group, supports the Plan, and recommends a
shared permitting arrangement (PBSD/Collier County, Coastal Zone Management,
etc.)
Mr. Feldhaus, Pelican Bay Foundation, supports the Plan as it meets the goals
identified, and recommended that public education be increased to inform the public
on the mixed used of the system. The permit should be "signed off on" by the various
parties, however, issued to Collier County (Coastal Zone Management)
Mr. Sorey (for himself) supports the Plan
Mr. Dallas (for himself) supports the Plan with the Pelican Bay Services Division
"signing off' on the permit to ensure continuity.
Mr. Wu, Seagate Homeowners Association, does not support the Plan, as the
Associations members are opposed to the concept of canoe trail markers.
Ms. Cravens, Sierra Club, supports the Plan, with the markers being integrated into
the existing permit for the markers on the north end of the system.
Mr. Sorey left the meeting at 3:50 p.m.
Gary McAlpin stated he would report back to the Coastal Advisory Committee and
Board of County Commissioners on the findings, and seek direction from the BCC.
Commissioner Hiller recommended that the findings be reported to the Pelican Bay
Services Division as well.
VII. Announcements with Follow up
None
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VIII. Next Meeting Date/Location
TBD
The Discussion ended at 4:00pm
Clam Bay Discussion Group
These minutes approved by the Discussion Group on
as presented , or as amended
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