CBSC Minutes 05/20/2010
May 20, 2010
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE - CLAM BAY
SUBCOMMITTEE
Naples, Florida, May 20, 2010
LET IT BE REMEMBERED that the Coastal Advisory Committee - Clam
Bay Subcommittee in and for the County of Collier, having conducted
business herein, met on this date at 1 :00 P.M. at Conference Room 609/610
of the Community Development and Environmental Services Building,
2800 North Horseshoe Drive, Naples, Florida with the following members
present:
CHAIRMAN: Anthony Pires
Jim Burke
John Arceri
ALSO PRESENT: Gary McAlpin, Director, Coastal Zone Management
Gail Hambright, Accountant
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MEETING AGENDA
CLAM BAY SUBCOMMITTEE
THURSDAY, MAY 20,2010 - 1 :00 P.M. TILL 5:00 P.M.
2800 NORTH HORSESHOE DRIVE, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
CONFERENCE ROOM 609 & 610, NAPLES
I. Call to Order
II. Pledge of Allegiance
III. Roll Call
IV. Changes and Approval of Agenda
V. Public Comments
VI. Approval of Minutes
1. March 18, 2010 Minutes
VII. Staff Reports
VIII. New Business
1. Peer Review Response from PBS&J
2. Status Letter of Consent - Navigation Markers Clam Bay
3. RAI Comments
. FDEP Submittal
. USACE
. Additional Support Required
4. Modeling Proposal
5. BVO/PBS&J Payment Status
IX. Old Business
X. Announcements
XI. Committee Member Discussion
XII. Next Meeting Date/Location
June 15,2010; 2800 N. Horseshoe Drive, Community Development, Conference
Room 609 & 610, Naples
XIII. Adjournment
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May 20, 2010
I. Call to Order
Chairman Pires called the meeting to order at 1 :00 pm.
II. Pledge of Allegiance
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
III. Roll Call
Roll call was taken and a quorum was established.
IV. Changes and Approval of Agenda
Gary McAlpin, Director, Coastal Zone Management noted the following updates
to the Agenda:
Item VI. 1 - Correction request of March 18, 2010 minutes, Linda Roth
Item VIII.3 - Discussion of RAI comments
Item VIllA - Discussion of Attached proposals
Item VIII.6 - Biological Study Update
Item IX. 1 - Wanless Report
Mr. Burke moved to approve the Agenda. Second by Mr. Arceri. Carried
unanimously 3-0.
V. Public Comments
John Domenie, Pelican Bay Resident addressed the Subcommittee noting the area
in the vicinity of the boardwalk for Clam Pass Park contains a large amount of refuse.
He provided a detailed inventory in writing (entitled "There may be some debris
along the boardwalk leading to Clam Pass Park'') of the items observed during a site
visit. He recommended the proposed improvements to Clam Pass Park be delayed
one year until such a time the County can show they can keep the Mangroves clean
and healthy.
Chairman Pires requested clarification on where the responsibility lies to maintain
the area, Parks and Recreation or the Naples Grande Resort Hotel via their lease
agreement with the County.
Gary McAlpin noted the responsibility lies with both and has discussed the issue
with the Parks and Recreation Department, who is addressing the issue. He will
provide an update at the next meeting.
VI. Approval of Minutes
1. March 18,2010 Minutes
Mr. Burke moved to approve the minutes subject to the following change:
Page 3, Paragraph 4, lines 1-3 - from "She requested the meeting be postponed as
the Agenda and related materials were not posted at least 48 hours in advance. She
noted..." to "She requested that staff post the meeting agenda and support
materials at least 2 days in advance of the meeting. The reason is that this is the
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only opportunity for the public to review the materials so they can make educated
comments and contribute positively to discussions at the meeting. She noted..."
Second by Mr. Arceri. Carried unanimously 3-0.
Chairman Pires requested Staff identify the minutes as "Draft" when posted on the
website prior to official approval by the Subcommittee.
VII. Staff Reports
None
VIII. New Business
1. Peer Review Response from PBSD
Gary McAlpin presented the Executive Summary "Peer Review Responses from
P BSD" dated May 20, 2010 for review. He noted:
. The original Peer Review proposal approved by the BCC envisioned a
review of the Water Quality Study prepared by PBS&J in conjunction
with the Circulation Modeling Study.
. The Pelican Bay Services Division (PBSD) provided a document "Clam
Bay Estuary Peer Review Scope of Work - Explanation of Changes from
3/19/10 Draft- Proposed by PBSD 5/5/10" which recommended the Peer
review, at this point, be limited to the PBS&J Water Quality Study.
. As outlined in recommendation #3 below, Staff accepts the
recommendation.
. If the peer review follows this avenue, it may be separated into "pieces"
completed by different individuals with expertise in the related areas
under consideration.
Discussion occurred ifPBSD intends to participate in funding all series of the
Peer Review, or only the Water Quality Study review.
Gary McAlpin noted Keith Dallas would speak on the issue.
Gary McAlpin reviewed the following Staff recommendations contained in the
Executive Summary:
1. They accept PBSD list of consultants and add to them staffs list (previously
identified and others) and forward them to purchasing for proposal
solicitation.
2. Keith Dallas and Gary McAlpin to work together to develop the request for
proposal document with purchasing. Once the consultant list is prepared it
will be the only individuals that can submit proposals.
3. Accept PBSD modified scope of work as identified in the "Explanation of
Changes from the 3/19/10 Draft" document but add back that water quality
expertise will be the primary qualification in selecting a peer review
professional for that portion of work. Peer review for other portions of work
will be evaluated and selected separately.
4. Approach FDEP with a request to evaluate PBS&J report.
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5. Keith Dallas and Gary McAlpin will collaborate on a proposal evaluation
document that can be brought back and reviewed by our respective boards by
next meeting.
6. Target the activity complete and a proposal on the street by June 15th.
Discussion occurred on recommendation #4 and whether FDEP should become
involved at that point of the process; or after the Peer Review is completed and
recommendations have been set forth regarding management of the Clam Bay
Estuary System (CBES.)
Gary McAlpin noted if the Subcommittee is concerned over the potential
ramifications with involving FDEP, the recommendation could be eliminated.
Sveaker
Kathy Worley, Conservancy of Southwest Florida expressed concern on
focusing primarily on a peer review for water quality. The process is moving
forward including Biological Studies, Hydrology Studies and Circulation
Modeling. The peer review should encompass the data currently being collected
for Biology, Hydrology and the circulation modeling.
Gary McAlpin noted the peer reviewer will be provided all current data collected
to assist in the review process.
Keith Dallas, Chairman, Pelican Bay Services Division Board noted the PBSD
views the process as two separate pieces, Water Quality and Circulation
Modeling. They understand the importance of Circulation Modeling and will be
collaborating with the County in funding peer reviews in the area. The PBSD felt
the issues should be separated due to their complexity.
Mr. Arceri moved to accept recommendationsfrom Staff 1,2,3 and 6.
Recommendation #5 be accepted with the agreement of Pelican Bay's
involvement in the final Phase of the process (peer review process).
Keith Dallas noted the recommendations in the motion are acceptable.
Motion carried unanimously 3-0.
2. Status Letter of Consent - Navigational Markers in Clam Bay
Gary McAlpin presented the Executive Summary "Status of Letter of Consent-
Navigational Markers in Clam Bay" dated May 20, 2010 for review. He noted:
. Staff has been in contact with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation
Commission who is required to approve the informational markers.
Approval is expected soon.
. Once the FFWCC permit is received, the RAI comments from FDEP will
be addressed.
· Once the RAI cycle is completed, the application should be deemed
complete by FDEP and a decision rendered.
. The Letter of Consent item was remanded to FDEP by the Governor's
Office/Cabinet.
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. IfPDEP denies the "Letter of Consent," the County will have the option
to appeal, but most likely will consider all avenues for placing the
navigational/informational markers "exhausted."
Speaker
Marcia Cravens, Mangrove Action Group noted the request for informational
markers are "Seagrass" type signage. An internal email ofPDEP employees
indicates lateral aids to navigations are not required. She questioned the motives
for the proposed informational markers as they are being combined with the
lateral aids to navigation. Informational signs addressing environmental concerns
already exist in the CBES.
3. RAI Comments
· FDEP Submittal
· USACE
· Additional Support Required
Gary McAlpin presented the Executive Summary "RAI Comments" dated May
20,2010 for review. He also provided the document "Agenda, Clam Pass JCP
Meeting, May 4, 2010" which outlined a history of the dredge permits issued for
Clam Pass. History indicates the original dredge template approved in April 1999
was a permitted width of 80 feet and a dredge depth at the mouth of the Pass of -
5.5' NGVD. There were two subsequent modifications in January 2002 and April
2007with the same dredge parameters. The current application is in compliance
with previously approved "dredge template."
Chairman Pires requested Staff post the original permits and subsequent
modifications on the County website for public view.
Discussion occurred on the ramifications of non-tidal flushing of the Estuary due
to legal challenges which may be undertaken by various parties. In addition, what
measures may need to be taken for an "emergency situation dredging" if the Pass
becomes "closed" and the County does not have the necessary permits to dredge
the Pass.
Speaker
Marcia Cravens, Mangrove Action Group stated the application for (dredge
permit) modification is not the same as the modification granted (in 1999). It
allowed a greater width, but not a greater depth. The 1995 Clam Pass
Management Plan recommended a long term permit to allow the Pass to be
reopened in the event it closes. On April 29, 2010, the Mangrove Action Group
held a public forum on the Estuary where representatives from the US Army Corp
of Engineers indicated the USACE has the authority to allow the Pass to be re-
opened in an emergency situation should it close. It does not take an emergency
declaration by the Governor.
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Chairman Pires requested Staff to:
. Retrieve all permit modifications from the original dredging permit
(issued July 1998) and provide them to members of the Subcommittee
along with posting them online for public viewing.
. Verification if the USACE can declare an emergency declaration to open
the Pass, and/or if there is a separate declaration required by the State of
Florida.
Mr. Arceri noted, if litigation initiates on the issues involving dredging the Pass,
he will make a request that the County provide a technical evaluation on when the
CBES may be negatively affected by non-dredging and the requirements for
opening the Pass in an emergency.
4. Modeling Proposal
Gary McAlpin provided the document "Clam Bay Estuary Modeling Study-
Phase I - Numerical Modeling on Hydrodynamics, sediment transport and
Flushing Analysis Using Delft 3D, Collier County Florida" and Clam Bay
Estuary Modeling Study - Phase 2 - Numerical Modeling Water Quality Using
Delft 3D- WAQ, Collier County Florida dated May 18,2010. He noted:
· The Phase I proposal outlines the scope originally approved by the BCC
and previous Clam Bay Subcommittee at a cost of$124,511.
· The proposal has been resubmitted for approval due to the issues raised
by the County Clerk regarding the Best Value Offer (BVO) program
previously being utilized by the County.
. The Phase II proposal is an enhanced proposal, which may be considered
by the County at a cost of $68,048.
· Staff intends to move forward with the scope of work outlined in Phase I
as it has been previously approved the Board of County Commissioners.
· The proposals have not been reviewed by the County Clerk's Finance
Department to determine if it is consistent with the requirements of the
State Statutes for County solicitation of contracts.
· The scope of the work was prepared at the direction of the Purchasing
Department and solicited under the Purchasing Policy previously utilized
before the development of the BVO process.
· The item was intended as an informational item; the Chairman received
the documentation today and has not had time to review the item.
Chairman Pires noted the County Clerk has requested a formal Attorney General
Opinion on the Best Value Offer process. The County was requested to join in
the request for opinion, but declined.
Speakers
Marcia Cravens, Mangrove Action Group expressed concern that the contract
is different than approved by the CBAC and CAC, as it now incorporates a scope
of work including Moorings Bay. How this change of scope occurred has not
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been addressed by Staff. She expressed concern that the scope of work proposed
was brought forth by the original Clam Bay Estuary Improvement Discussion
Group which was created in the "dark" and an employee of PBS&J was a
member. The need for a Circulation Modeling Study is not supported by previous
reports which indicate there is no water quality problem in Clam Bay.
Kathy Worley, Conservancy of Southwest Florida requested clarification on
the status of "Task 4A" that was in the original scope of work.
Gary McAlpin noted Task "4A and 4B" have been combined.
Mr. Arceri moved to continue the item to the next meeting. Second by Mr.
Burke. Carried unanimously 3-0.
5. BVO/PBS&J Payment Status
Previously discussed under item VIllA
6. Biological Study Update
Gary McAlpin noted the document is still under modification.
Speakers
Kathy Worley, Conservancy of Southwest Florida provided an update on the
scope of work proposed by the Conservancy in the CBES which will begin in
June.
IX. Old Business
1. Wanless Report
Chairman Pires noted the Report has been reviewed by members of the
Subcommittee and Dr. Wanless listed as a potential Peer Reviewer.
Speakers
Marcia Cravens, Mangrove Action Group expressed concern the Wanless
Report was continually postponed for discussion at various Coastal Advisory
Committee meetings who referred it to the Clam Bay Subcommittee. The
Subcommittee never heard testimony on the report. The Report indicates the
water quality conditions in the Estuary are "normal" for a Mangrove environment.
Kathy Worley, Conservancy of Southwest Florida provided a summary of Dr.
Wanless's credentials noting he is highly respected by peers in his field of study.
X. Announcements
None
XI. Committee Member Discussion
Federal Funding Requests
Staff has applied for WRDA (Water Resources Development Act) funding for studies
in the CBES
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Oil Spill- Gulf of Mexico
Gary McAlpin provided an update on the oil spill.
XII. Next Meeting Date/Location (* Per Agenda Index)
June 15,2010; 2800 N. Horseshoe Drive, Community Development, Conference
Room 609 & 610, Naples
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was
adjourned by order of the chair at 3:22 P.M.
Collier County Coastal Advisory Committee -
Clam Bay Subcommittee
Tony Pires, Chairman
These minutes approved by the Board/Committee on
as presented or as amended
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