Agenda 05/17/2010
WIGGIN'S PASS
SUBCOMMITTEE
MEETING
AGENDA
MAY 17,2010
MEETING AGENDA
WIGGINS PASS SUBCOMMITTEE
MONDAY, MAY 17,2010 - 9:00 A.M. TILL 12:00 P.M.
HUMAN RESOURCE TRAINING ROOM, 3301 TAMIMI TRAIL E., BUILDING B,
NAPLES
I. Call to Order
II. Pledge of Allegiance
III. Roll Call
IV. Changes and Approval of Agenda
V. Public Comments
VI. Approval of Minutes
1. April 19, 2010 Minutes
VII. Staff Reports
VIII. New Business
1. Review/Discussion of May 4,2010 FDEP/FPS Meeting in Tallahassee
2. Physical, Biological, Contingency, Construction and Inlet Management Plans
and Key Points.
3. Discussion/Identification of Major Issues
4. Responsibilities for Resolution of Major Issues and Who Reviews
5. Timing ofRAI Response
IX. Old Business
1. Discussion of Nearshore Placement of Sand for Maintenance Dredging
During Sea Turtle Season
X. Announcements
XI. Committee Member Discussion
XII. Next Meeting Date/Location
June 21, 2010 Human Resources Training Room, Building B; 9:00am till
12:00pm
XIII. Adjournment
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MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S
WIGGINS PASS SUBCOMMITTEE
Naples, Florida, April 19, 2010
LET IT BE REMEMBERED that the Coastal Advisory Committee _
Wiggins Pass Subcommittee in and for the County of Collier, having conducted
business herein, met on this date at 9:00 A.M. at the Risk Management Training
Room located at 3301 Tamiami Trail E, Building D, Naples, Florida, with the
following members present:
Chairman: Joseph A. Moreland
Robert Raymond
Victor Rios (Excused)
Inlet Management Work Team:
Jack Kindsvater
Dick Lydon
Nicole Ryan
ALSO PRESENT: Gary McAlpin, Coastal Zone Management Director
Gail Hambright, Accountant
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I. Call to Order
Chairman Moreland called the meeting to order at 9:07 AM.
II. Pledge of Allegiance
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
III. Roll Call - A quorum was established.
Also in attendance were members of the Work Team appointed by the Bee.
Jack Kindsvater - Representative of the ECA
Dick Lydon - Representative of Vanderbilt Beach Residents Association
Nicole Ryan - Representative of the Conservancy ofSW Plorida
The following three members were appointed but absent:
Tom Crowe - Representative of the Friends of Barefoot Beach
Jim Fox - Representative of the Boating Community
Jeff Raley the Representative of the Florida Park Service (Mark Nicoletti took notes for
Jeff Raley)
IV. Changes and Approval of Agenda
Dick Lydon moved to approve the Agenda as submitted. Second by Robert Raymond.
Motion carried unanimously 2-0.
Work Team 3-0.
V. Public Comments - None.
VI. Approval of Minutes - March 8, 2010
Robert Raymond moved to approve the March 8, 2010 minutes as submitted.
Second by Jack Kindsvater. Motion carried unanimously 2-0.
Work Team 3-0.
VII. Staff Reports
Gary McAlpin reported receipt of an e-mail stating Jim Pox resigned from his position
on the Work Team and asked for other recommendations from the Committee.
Chairman Joseph Moreland reported Tom Crowe submitted his resignation for
personal reasons and recommended Margaret Winn who would be willing to serve on
the Work Team.
Gary McAlpin volunteered to contact Frank Donohue on a recommendation for a
representative from the boating community.
It was noted the two vacancies on the Work Team would be filled by end of the week.
Recommendations to fill the vacancies on the Work Team will be submitted to the BCC
for approval. The appointee's first meeting will be on May 17.
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VIII. New Business
1. Wiggins Pass Inlet Management Plan Discussion
Gary McAlpin distributed a "Summary of 2000 Inlet Management Plan
Requirements" created by Walton County for Norriego Point as a sample, not yet
been approved. (See attached)
~ Subcommittee will make their recommendation for a Local Inlet
Management Plan and submit to State.
~ State will review and make revisions.
~ The Subcommittee will reconcile the State and Local Plans to ensure the
Local Plan is not in conflict with the State Plan.
~ Subcommittee will submit revised plan to BCC for authorization.
The strategy was noted as follows -
Place beach quality maintenance dredged material on adjacent beaches north and
south of Wiggins Pass within areas of greatest need, monitoring and analysis of
inlet effects.
Discussion was made on Local and State Inlet Management Plans and if the plan
would be site specific or generic. As part of the REI Process, local management
plan will keep the State informed. Guidelines have not been developed and it was
suggested the plan be inclusive and address major issues on managing the inlet.
Gary McAlpin distributed and reviewed Discussion Points for the Wiggins Pass
Policy and Planning Guidelines. (See attached)
Initial Inlet Manaeement Plan Recommendations -
1. Straight alignment through the flood and the ebb tide shoals.
2. Minor cuts to subsurface rock ledge any notching will have no impact on
the positional stability
3. Maintain navigation for 3-foot draft vessels and extend dredging interval
using no structures.
4. Mitigatefor inlet impacts by bypassing 2.65 times to North.
5. Establish monitoring program and adjust disposal practices in #4 above
accordingly.
6. Repair beach scarps to the north and south point of Barefoot Beach Park.
7. Use sand dredged from the flood shoal to create new flood shoal flats.
8. Allow moderate design channel migration minus 50' to the north and minus
50' to the south to reduce dredging.
9. Use intermediate dredging to reestablish navigation thru the bar.
10. Summer maintenance dredging to reduce cost and complexity, with offshore
placement.
John Moreland is concerned, from a legal point of view, on the position
concerning the State Park. The County has a lease for Barefoot Park from the State
and asked what responsibilities the State has on the erosion problem.
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Staff responded the leaseholder has a responsibility to maintain it. The State Park
has the first right of refusal on the sand and the DEP has the responsibility to bring
all parties together in agreement.
Nicole Ryan suggested adding a bullet on Item #3 to Identify Environmental
Benefits.
Gary McAlpin asked Nicole Ryan to brainstorm the environmental benefits
consistent with the Codes and Ordinances. He recommended Item #1 also include
"any additional work must be hydraulically balanced" and Item #2 include "no work
would be done that would hurt the environment."
Dick Lydon suggested the Plan insure positional stability of the rock ledge and state
any additional work would not adversely effect the environment.
Gary McAlpin asked Nicole Ryan to compose her verbiage recommendations on
Item #2 for the Subcommittee's review. He stated Item #4 contained technical data
and he recommended retaining the verbiage.
It was suggested to combine Items #4 and #5.
It was noted the study on the impacts on bypassing figure of 2.65 was made as a part
of the permit application process.
Gary McAlpin opened discussion on Item # I 0; stating maintenance dredging done
during the summer would reduce costs, which could create a disturbance to the
habitant. All permits say no dredging during turtle-nesting season. Dredging off-
season is cost beneficial at the price of disturbance. In the past, CAC has tried to
avoid re-nourishing the beaches during that time.
Nicole Ryan expressed concern the idea would be considered. The County should
plan to do maintenance during the appropriate season knowing maintaining the pass
is expensive. She indicated work should not be done during the turtle-nesting
season.
Gary McAlpin noted the permit included a technique called "near-shore discharge"
without any equipment on the beach.
Nicole Ryan stated she would research the "near-shore discharge" technique with
turtle experts and she recommended inviting David Addison, a turtle expert to the
next meeting.
Dick Lydon suggested the Plan establish boat navigability of interior channels and
responsibility of the intersections.
Discussion was made on utilizing a backhoe to cut out hot spots and whether there
would be a cost benefit. Staff indicated this was included in the permit application.
Staff stated a Boater of Characterization has been completed for the County.
Gary McAlpin stated he would incorporate revisions made on the Inlet
Management Plan for the next meeting.
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IX. Old Business - None.
X. Announcements - None.
XI. Committee Member Discussion
Dick Lydon recommended the seating arrangement for future Subcommittee meetings
be set up in a hollow square.
Gary McAlpin recommended the Subcommittee brainstorm a strategy to communicate
with key people and key stakeholders to understand the Inlet Management Plan and
gain public support. Will be discussed at a future meeting.
XII. Next Meeting Date
The next meeting of the Wiggins Pass Subcommittee will be held on Monday, May 17
at 9:00 AM.
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There being no further business for the good ofthe County, the meeting was adjourned
by order of the Chair at 10:45 a.m.
Collier County Coastal Advisory Committee -
Wiggins Pass Subcommittee
Joseph A. Moreland, Chairman
These Minutes were approved by the Board/Committee on
as presented , or as amended
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MEETING SUMMARY
Date and Time:
Location:
Subject:
May 4, 2010 11:30am
Florida Bureau of Natural & Cultural Resources, Tallahassee, Florida
Florida Park Service Letter dated March 24, 2010 on the Wiggins Pass
JCP Permit No. 012538
Jeff Raley, FPS and Steve Keehn, CPE
Participants:
The meeting lasted about 50 minutes in Jeff Raley's office. The meeting was started by Steve
Keehn explaining Collier County's concerns with the Florida Park Service (FSP) letter in
conjunction with BBCS RAI # 1 letter. The implications of both letters could be very expensive
for the County to implement, and it appeared to strongly imply beach restorations of Delnor
Wiggins Park based on hot spots caused by the navigation project. A single purpose
mobilization to dredge and fill for a hot spot could cost $500,000 - $3,000,000. The larger cost is
to mobilize for placement of sand using borrow area T1 33 miles away. This is a based the
chance that the FPS may reject sand dredged from the ebb shoal based on past experience.
Comments in the FPS and BBCS letter implied that Delnor Wiggins Park was being impacted by
the existing inlet dredging. After a short discussion, Jeff stated that the Park beaches were
performing well (later confirmed by Robert Brantley in the BBCS meeting). The FPS wants to
avoid a case like Stump Pass, where inlet impacts could not be addressed in a timely manner. A
new BO was required for a modification to the Stump Pass permits. The BO is taking months to
process. In addition, Jeff was interested in a program where hot spots can be investigated in a
timely fashion, without waiting for the next periodic survey. Jeff favors determining the
placement of dredged sand by greatest need, which might not be the same as greatest net erosion.
Hot spots can occur in an otherwise stable shoreline area and Jeff is concerned about cases where
the shoreline was eroded, in spite of a conservation of sand in the hot spot region.
The ability of the County or FPS to respond quickly to inlet impacts can be addressed in a
number of documents that are part of the permit process. This includes a detailed project
description which becomes the basis of the permit and biological opinions; and a contingency
plan, which is prepared separately but referenced in the final permit. In addition, the plans can
distinguish between normal shoreline variability and storm induced erosion versus actual inlet
impacts. The NW shoreline of Delnor Wiggins Park is thin today, but it is probably caused by
the passage of the trough in the existing sand wave discussed in the County permit document.
The issue with the biological opinion and ability to respond quickly can be addressed in a
detailed project description and contingency plan. During the upcoming IMP meetings, we can
attempt to address these concerns in more detail.
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MEETING SUMMARY
Date and Time:
Location:
Subject:
May 4,2010 2:30 +m
Florida Bureau of Beaches and Coastal Systems, Tallahassee Florida
FDEP BBCS RAI #1 dated March 24, 2010 on the Wiggins Pass JCP
Permit No. 012538
Merrie Beth Neely, Robert Brantley, Jennifer Koch, Subarma Malakar,
BBCS; Jeff Raley, FPS; Robbin Trindell, FWC and Steve Keehn, CPE and
Gary McAlpin by Phone
Participants:
The meeting followed the attached outline. It was modified by Robert Brantley in an E-mail
dated April 28, 2010 (attached), which was not made available until the start of the meeting.
Mr. Brantley wanted to skip the background summary (Items 1-4) and narrowly focus the
meeting to RAI comments and not other Bureau topics such as the Inlet management Plan (IMP).
This scope was attempted on the fly by Steve Keehn, but with enough background for other
participants not as familiar with the details. The FDEP and FWC staffs were stressed from
dealing with the oil spill problem and two members at the meeting were late substitutes filling in
for staffer who could not make the meeting.
Before the start of the meeting Vladimir Kosmynin, the BBCS hardbottom expert stopped by and
said he could not make the meeting. While he was there, I proposed a method to handle the
hardbottom offshore of Delnor- Wiggins Park, which he agreed to. The Delnor Wiggins Park
hardbottom has been monitored 5 times since 2003. I proposed that the next monitoring take
place before the first use of the spoil area at Delnor Wiggins State Park as a pre-construction
survey, and he agreed. The details for monitoring this area will be described in a biological
monitoring plan.
Major topics discussed and pertinent comments follow:
Steve Keehn summarized the objectives and coastal processes for the other FDEP members.
Robert Brantley agreed that Delnor Wiggins Park was not a significant problem.
Steve Keehn stated that he had a conversation with FPS that morning and that hot spot issues
would be addressed in the project description or contingency plan. We clarified the type of sand
(ebb shoal sand), and the method of determining the direction of bypassing for the Park.
Bypassing would be determined by equalizing the erosion on either side of the inlet, and we
would look into Jeffs alternative means of placing sand where the greatest need was regardless
of volumetric measurements.
The location of the rock substrate, clay and organic layers were identified based on previous
geotechnical studies (pages 8-10 on the attached Power Point Presentation). The previous
investigations proved that what was believed to be peat was actually organic clay or clay layers.
The clay layers are on both sides of the natural channel. The rock substrate may be a controlling
geology, but it is seaward of the big curves in the channel, even though is has high points on
either side of the channel (see geology pages 8-10 in May 4 PowerPoint presentation). The FDEP
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agreed that the submitted geotechnical investigation was standard for a navigation project, but
felt further investigation was needed to determine the controlling geology holding the inlet
entrance stable at the shoreline. I commented that it might be the controlling hydraulics or a
combination of both. FDEP wants more vibracores to define the controlling geology and the
incompatible material.
Steve Keehn briefed an outline of a construction and maintenance plan for the project (pages 15-
16 on the attached PowerPoint presentation). The project is broken into 3 phases: Initial
construction, Full maintenance dredging, and Intermediate (small) dredging. The County
concurs with disposal of all the clay and organic layers upland similar to Blind Pass project.
FDEP stated that at least a two foot buffer of sand over the clay and organics layers would be
needed for dredging other than for contained upland disposal. The remaining flood shoal
material and the silt (>20%) part of the ebb shoal is proposed for disposals in the meander, while
all beach compatible sand from the ebb shoal will go on or near the adjacent beaches. The FDEP
objected to the disposal plan for the sand with 5%-20% silt underwater within the inlet. Another
disposal option may need to be investigated, such as the nearshore on the Gulf shoreline. FDEP
has no specific guidance, since they were focused on the clay and organics previously. General,
navigation projects can place sand with up to 20% silt in the nearshore zone. FDEP also
requested the volume of the meander channel.
Steve Keehn addressed environmental questions in the RAI about seagrass, snook, mangroves,
and hardbottom, and illustrated how we are avoiding direct impact to these resources. The
proposed plan would protect the existing mangroves against future erosion, and there was no
seagrass in the new channel template. Any concerns would be addressed in a contingency plan,
where mitigation would be proposed to address direct impact caused by the project to these
resources which are not anticipated. No adverse comments were made about these issues. FWC
asked that construction avoid snook spawning season (approximately March-June) and objected
to summer nearshore disposal from ebb shoal maintenance dredging. This is allowed for Doctors
Pass.
FDEP said Barefoot Beach is in the process for critical erosion designation, which is still
working its way through the State approval process. This means that Barefoot Beach can be
nourished and qualify for State cost sharing. This will be a significant assistance in meeting the
States current interpretation for inlet management, rebuilding the ebb shoal and mitigating for all
the impacts of inlet maintenance. Gary McAlpin agreed to nourish Barefoot Beach as part of the
inlet plan based on this statement.
Merrie stated that proof showing that no hard bottom exists offshore of Barefoot Beach is needed.
(proof is contained in the 1995 Inlet Management Plan) and that the side cast disposal area
boundaries need to be on the plans.
Bob Brantley discussed the relationship between the State and County in regards to an Inlet
Management Plan. He assigned Subarma Malakar to attend future IMP meetings in Collier
County.
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Based on FDEP's comment, we may want to split future submittals into three groups m
consultation with FDEP:
1. Responses to permit related RAI comments.
2. Physical, biological, contingency and construction plans and related measurements-last
submittal.
3. Combined Inlet Management Plans and Modeling Report.
The meeting was conducted during a hectic time for FDEP (oil spill), with members leaving
early and stepping out for phone calls. Two participants at the meeting were last minute
replacements. Although many issues were resolved, a follow-up meeting before the first response
to this RAI is recommended, to clarify many of the issues raised above. The meeting went a
long way in achieving its educational goal.
Attachments:
May 4 2010 Power Point Presentation
Robert Brantley's April 28 2010 E-Mail
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Wiggins Pass Inlet Improvement Meeting
2 pm May 4, 2009 @ FDEP
Suggested Agenda
Purpose: Educate FDEP on project parameters and solicit FDEP guidance and advice.
1. Description of Problem
2. County Objectives and multi-party process
3. Convention Wisdom vs. New Findings
a. Wrong for Two Decades
4. Coastal Process Description
a. No Significant Impact to Delnor Wiggins Park
b. Natural and Man Caused Impacts to Barefoot Beach
c. Rebalance Bypassing
5. Pertinent Geology
a. Organic Clay, Hard Substrate, no peat
b. Organic Clay handling
6. Pertinent Environmental
a. Seagrass, mangrove, snook, hard bottom
b. Avoidance factored in - Further Guidance
7. Alternatives and Desired Plan
a. Physical and Practices
b. Construction
c. New Alternatives
8. Modeling Results
9. Applicable Inlet Management Rules
10. Inlet Management Plan- State vs. Local
11. Critical Erosion Area Designation
12. Funding for IMP and beach nourishment on adjacent beaches
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Project
1. Initial construction outside sea turtle season:
1 Dredge compatible sand from Ebb Channel - 45 kcy
2. Dredge Flood Channel and Nav. Compatible Sand -30 kcy
3 Dredge Incompatible sand and disposal of upland 5 kcy
4. BUild Beach and Scour repair with compatible sand
5 Fill Meander with Flood and navigation Compatible sand
2. Major Maintenance Dredge - 45-50 kcy each 4 yr
1 Place beach compatible sand In near shore disposal areas
2. DUring Sea Turtle Season
3. Intermediate Ebb Channel Dredging -
- Side cast about 6 key to north as needed
4. Create contingency & monitoring plan
- No direct mitigation expected
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Modeling
· Wave refraction & sheltering from Sanibel
· Calibrated tides, waves and sediment
transport into inlet for specific time period
· 2 grain sizes used in Model
· Used model to compare relative
effectiveness of alternatives
· Used Specific wave climate for calibration
and a schematized wave climate for final
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Tuesday, May 04, 2010 10:10 AM
Neely, Merrie
FW: Wiggins Pass Issues from RAI1
Importance:
High
Was agenda ever revised?
Lainie Edwards, Ph.D.
Bureau of Beaches and Coastal Systems
Florida Department of Environmental Protection
3900 Commonwealth Boulevard, M.S. 300
Tallahassee, Florida 32399
850-414-7796 (phone) /850-414-7725 (fax)
From: Brantly, Robert
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:10 AM
To: Neely, Merrie; Koch, Jennifer L.; Malakar, Subarna; Edwards, Lainie; Kosmynin, Vladimir; Raley, Jeff (C)
Cc: Seeling, Martin; Small, Parks; 'Seckinger, Eric'
Subject: RE: Wiggins Pass Issues from RAIl
Importance: High
Merrie Beth,
Please advise Mr. McAlpine to revise the agenda. We do not need the background related issues covered in 1 throygh 4
should be deleted. Items #11 and #12 are not related to the regulatory process and should be deleted andrescheduled
with appropriate staff. 'Items 5 through410 s~ould be revised to specifically address the issues included in RAI#l and
pared down to only cover tne most important items; for example a discussion of the modeling results is not conducive to
this meeting and could be handled at a later date using Web~EX and just the engineering staff. We cannot agree to this
agenda, because it is not feasible to complete all these items in the allotted time, and our time is valuable and limited
by the extensive number of other projects each of us is responsible for.
Bob
From: Neely, Merrie
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:56 AM
To: Koch, Jennifer L.; Malakar, Subarna; Brantly, Robert; Edwards, Lainie; Kosmynin, Vladimir; Raley, Jeff (C)
Cc: Seeling, Martin; Small, Parks; 'Seckinger, Eric'
Subject: Wiggins Pass Issues from RAIl
See attached agenda - not really what I was hoping for though. He knows he has 1 hour with 11 extra for Q&A.
Merrie Beth Neely, Ph.D.
Florida Department of Environmental Protection
Water Resources Management
Joint Coastal Permitting
3900 Commonwealth Blvd. M,.<:J 300
Tallahassee. FL 32399-3000
Phone 850 413-7785
Fax 850 414-7725
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