CBSC Minutes 03/18/2010
March 18,2010
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE - CLAM BAY
SUBCOMMITTEE
Naples, Florida, March 18,2010
LET IT BE REMEMBERED that the Collier County Coastal Advisory
Committee - Clam Bay Subcommittee in and for the County of Collier,
having conducted business herein, met on this date at 1:00 P.M. at the North
Collier Regional Park Administration Building, 15000 Livingston Road,
Naples, Florida, with the following members present:
CHAIRMAN: Anthony Pires
Jim Burke
John Arceri
ALSO PRESENT: Gary McAlpin, Director, Coastal Zone Management
Gail Hambright, Accountant
Colleen Greene, Assistant County Attorney
MEETING AGENDA
CLAM BAY SUBCOMMITTEE
THURSDAY, MARCH 18,2010 - 1:00 P.M. TILL 5:00 P.M.
NORTH COLLIER REGIONAL PARK, 1500 LIVINGSTON ROAD,
ADMIN ISTRA TlON BUILDING, CONFERENCE ROOM A, NAPLES
I. Call to Order
II. Pledge of Allegiance
III. Roll Call
IV. Changes and Approval of Agenda
V. Public Comments
VI. Approval of Minutes
1. February I, 2010 Minutes
VII. Staff Reports
VIII. New Business
I. Clam Bay Biological Study - Discussion
2. Peer Review Scope of Work
3. Modeling Program Scope of Work
4. Wanless Report - Discussion
5. BVO Process - Update
6. RAl Comments Clam Pass Permit Application - Discussion
7. 1.G. McAlpin March 10,2008 Memo to Colleen Green
8. Clam Pass Park Conceptual Plan
IX. Old Business
X. Announcements
XI. Committee Member Discussion
XII. Next Meeting Date/Location
April 15, 2010; 2800 N. Horseshoe Drive, Community Development, Conference
Room 609 & 610, Naples
XIII. Adjournment
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March 18,2010
I. Call to Order
Chairman Pires called the meeting to order at 1 :02 p.m.
II. Pledge of Allegianee
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
III. Roll Call
Roll call was taken and a quorum was established.
IV. Changes and Approval of Agenda
Chairman Pires requested the following changes to the Agenda:
. Addition of Item IV.a - Sunshine Law Requirements
. Item VIII.5 to become Item VIII. 1 Remaining items to be renumbered
aceordingly
Mr. Arceri recommended:
. Addition of item VllI.9 - Pelican Bay/CAC Workshop Update
. Deletion of Item VllI.4 - Wanless Report - Reason: The previous Clam Bay
Advisory Group, the Coastal Advisory Committee and Board of County
Commissioners have acted on the recommendations provided in the PBS&l
Water Quality Study for Clam Bay. Mr. Burke agreed.
Chairman Pires objeeted and stated, at the Chairman's prerogative, an item may be
added or deleted to an agenda without full consent of the Committee.
Mr. Arceri disagreed and stated agenda approvals require consent of a Committee.
Colleen Greene, Assistant County Attorney noted she would have to research the
issue and provide an opinion if the Chairman or the full Committee is empowered to
make ehanges to an agenda.
Mr. Arceri moved to table the item VIllA - Wanless Report until the next meeting
pending a decision on procedure. Second by Mr. Burke. Motion carried 2 yes - 1
no. Chairman Pires voted "no. "
Mr. Arced moved to approve the Agenda subject to the items recommended being
added above. Second by Mr. Burke. Carried unanimously 3-0.
a. Sunshine Law Requirements - Colleen Greene
Chairman Pires stated members of the publie have asserted today's meeting is a
violation of the Sunshine Law, and should not be held. The assertions are based
on the premise the complete agenda and related backup materials for the meeting
were not available to the public 48 hours in advance. He noted the Public Notice
for the meeting was issued on February 1,2010.
Colleen Greene, Assistant County Attorney presented a memo to Chairman
Pires dated March 18, 2010, "Re: Sunshine Law and Agenda questions" whieh
confirmed the Sunshine Law does not require the agenda to be made available to
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the public 48 hours in advance. She noted the Sunshine Law does require a
Notiee of Publie Hearing 48 hours in advance of a meeting, the meeting be open
to the publie and minutes be reeorded. Proceeding with the meeting does not
constitute a violation of the Sunshine Law
Chairman Pires noted a Committee cannot mandate materials submitted by the
public be provided 48 hours in advance of a meeting, or the number of copies
submitted.
For more efficient rneeting discussion, he requested the individuals strive to meet
his previous request for ample copies being provided to subcommittee rnembers,
staff and the recorder. The County is attempting to provide meeting materials 48
hours in advance, if possible.
V. Public Comments
Speakers
David Roellig, requested clarification if County representatives have traveled to
Washington to seek FEMA funding for the Clam Bay Water Quality Studies.
Chairman Pires requested it be addressed under Staff Reports.
Linda Roth, noted the Wanless Report was never discussed by any Committees. She
requested the meeting be postponed as the Agenda and related materials were not
posted at least 48 hours in advanee. She noted only 3 copies ofinfonnation should be
required for submittal by the publie; I copy for staff, the reeorder and subeommittee.
Chairman Pires noted it is advantageous for each subcommittee member, staff
liaison and County Attorney be provided a copy of any information submitted and
requested the public to attempt to meet the request.
VI. Approval of Minutes
1. February 1, 2010 meeting
Mr. Burke moved to approve the millutes of the February 1,2010 meetillg.
Second by Mr. Arceri. Carried ullallimously 3-0.
VII. Staff Reports
Gary McAlpin, Director of Coastal Zone Management reported:
· The County is seeking Federal funding in the amount of $250,000 to
assist in Engineering/Water Quality Studies in the Clam Bay Estuary
System (CBES). The requests are being direeted through the areas
Legislative Delegation. Peliean Bay Foundation has requested some
wording ehanges as presented in the written request. He will forward the
BCC minutes to the Subcommittee regarding the issue.
· The "Letter of Consent" application for the proposed Aids to Navigation
in Clam Bay has been submitted to the Florida Department of
Environmental Proteetion (FDEP).
VIII. New Business
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1. BVO Process - Update
Gary McAlpin reported the County Clerk is investigating whether the BVO (Best
Value Offer) program is a legal proeess. He has eeased payments on contracts
involved in the BVO process. Any eonsultants affected have been issued a 'Stop
Work Order." The "Stop Order" direetly affeets the work being condueted on the
Clam Bay Management Plan and County's physieal monitoring of beaches. He
provided a eopy ofa rnemo to Dwight Brock, Clerk of Courts from Jeff Klatzkow,
County Attorney dated March 10,2010, "Re: Competitive ConsulLanls
Negotiations Act" outlining the Counties position why the BVO proeess is lawful.
The issue may be resolved via an Attorney General's Opinion, legal aetion or
mediation.
The County will eontinue to conduet the business as required by attempting to re-
align any related contracts, etc.
Speakers
Marcia Cravens, Mangrove Action Group supports Mr. Broek's deeision as he
is responsible to ensure contracts are eonducted in a legal manner. In the past, the
County award contraets to firms on a rotating basis. She sought a public request
for the awarding of the PBS&J eontraet for the work in Clam Pass, but was told
no public records exist.
2. Clam Bay Biological Study - Discussion
Gary McAlpin presented the document "Upper, Inner and Lower Clam Bay
Biological Studv" dated lanuary 19,2010 prepared by PBS&l for review.
Speakers
Marcia Cravens, Mangrove Aetion Group supports the Biological Study and
the Mangrove Aetion Group and Peliean Bay Foundation contraeted the
Conservancy of Southwest Florida for a eomprehensive study on the state of the
benthic community in the CBES.
Kathy Worley, Conservancy of Southwest Florida noted she sent an email with
comments on the proposed Clam Bay Biological Study (March 16, 20103:21 PM
to Gary McAlpin, Subject: Thur CAC CB Subcommittee Meeting Subject:
Biological Monitoring). She can provide the methodology to be utilized for the
study being eondueted by the Conservaney of Southwest Florida.
Mr. Areeri recommended the questions posed in her email be answered.
Chairman Pires reeommended representatives from PBS&l present at the next
meeting to answer any questions.
Mr. Arceri reeommended the Subcommittee review the above doeument today
and provide input for the final doeument.
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Gary MeAIpin noted the doeument outlines how the study should be completed,
with PBS&l preparing the report by outsoureing components and having them
submitted back for final review.
The Subcommittee reviewed the document and provided preliminary comments
for consideration
Task 1.0 Review of Existin!! Biolo!!icaI Data
Clarify the various Agencies identified in the list (i.e. change 'The Nature
Conservaney" to the "Conservancy of Southwest Florida," which Chapter of the
Audubon Society will be utilized, ete.)
Task 2.0 Man!!rove Health Assessment
Clarify how the Scope of Work will be completed with PBS&l reviewing all the
existing doeumentation and supplementing it with additional studies as neeessary.
Task 3.0 Wadin!! Bird Survey
No cornments
Task 4.0 Fish Survey
To be eonducted by the Florida Fish and Wildlife Serviee, standard methodology.
Background information to be provided to Kathy Worley
Task 5.0 Benthic Collection and Analysis
1t was noted the Conservancy of Southwest Florida is completing a
eomprehensive study. Staff to receivc the "seope of the study" and if consistent
with the purpose of the overall study, the work will not be duplicated.
Task 6.0 Submer!!ed Resource Survey
No eornments
Task 7.0 BioIo!!ieal Assessment Report and PubIie Presentation
No comments
Sarah Wu, Seagate Resident agreed the work being completed by the
Conservaney of Southwest Florida for Task 5.0 should not be duplicated if
necessary.
Gary McAlpin noted he met with Andrew McElwaine, Exeeutive Direetor of the
Conservaney of Southwest Florida on performing the study; however he indicated
he did not have the Staff Resourees to complete the task.
It was noted the study will be a baseline rneasure of the biological state of the
CBES and used for formulating recommendations in a Final Management Plan.
Staff will submit a revised document for review at the next meeting.
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3. Peer Review Scope of Work
Gary McAlpin presented the doeument "Peer Review Scope of Work" dated
March 15,2010 for review. The Peer Review will be for the seope of work
completed by PBS&J including the Modeling Study. He recornmends the
following organizations/persons be considered for conducting the Peer Review:
Sarasota Bay National Estuary Program run by Dr. Jay Leverone; Tampa Bay
Estuary Program Run by Ed Sherwood and Dr. Loren Coen, the Executive
Director of Sanibel-Captiva Conservation Foundation.
Charlotte Harbor National Estuary Program run by 1 udy Ott was identified as a
possible eandidate, but he has eoneerns due to their historic relationship with
Conservancy of Southwest Florida, and the Conservancy will be eonducting work
in the CBES.
Speakers
Marcia Cravens, Mangrove Aetion Group noted she was at the PBSD meeting
when the request was announced by Neil Dorrill for PBSD to partieipate in
funding the Peer Review. She expressed eoneern staff is proposing pre-seleeted
candidates without input from the Division. She requested clarifieation if any of
the organizations/individuals have a relationship with, or were reeommended by
PBS&J.
The Subcommittee reviewed the document recommending the following changes:
. Clarify the language the reeommendation of the Subcommittee to utilize a
stand alone person/organization of academia (as opposed to consultants).
. Provide clarifieation if the Peer Reviewer has relationships with any of
the Consultants/Organizations who have condueted work within the
CBES.
Gary MeAlpin noted the document is in preliminary stages, provided for
informational purposes and will be modified.
Jerry Moffat, Pelican Bay Services Division noted the item has not been
addressed by the Division. They were told the normal Request for Proposal will
be utilized in selecting the reviewer. The document is a good baseline for the
PBSD (and Staff) to formulatc an avcnue for the review.
Kathy Worley, Conservancy of Southwest Florida noted the Conservaney
completes objectivc environmental studies without bias and has relationships with
all persons/organizations identified as candidates for the Peer Review.
Chairman Pires agreed and recommended Charlotte Harbor National Estuary
Program be included in the list of aeceptable candidatcs.
4. Modeling Program Scope of Work
Gary McAlpin presented the doeument "Clam Bay Estuary Modeling Study-
Phase 1: - Numerical Modeling of Hydrodynamics, Sediment Transport and
Flushing Analysis Using Delfi3d Collier County. Florida" prepared by PBS&J for
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review. He noted the item is for informational purposes and requested written
comments be submitted to Staff by any interested parties. The item will be
addressed at next month's meeting.
Speakers
Rick Dykman, Seagate Homeowners Assoc. noted the Association is interested
in the overall health of the CBES as historically the water quality has deteriorated.
They support the studies proposed by Staff. He requested clarifieation on who
speaks for the Pelican Bay Foundation as their input is critical.
Chairman Pires noted the PBF is actively involved as he has reeeived numerous
communieations from Steve Feldhaus, Agent for the Foundation.
Marcia Cravens, Mangrove Action Group requested clarifieation on the
County requirement of utilizing the DELFT3D software for the modeling.
Gary MeAIpin noted the County requires the software as it was utilized in the
Wiggins Pass Study and the County is familiar with the system. The County may
need to integrate individual modeling studies in the future and it is the premier
modeling software available.
The subcommillee recommended the following preliminary changes to the
document:
. Page 2 - Ensuring the definition of the Clam Bay Estuary System (CBES)
is consistent throughout the document (and other documents)
. Page 2, #3, paragraph to - from "Up to 6 conceptual modifications..." to
not speeifying a finite number.
. Page 3, # 7 - reference the Peer Review to be condueted.
5. Wanless Report - Discussion
Postponed until next meeting.
6. RAI Comments Clam Pass Permit Applieation - Discussion
Gary McAlpin noted the PBS&J response to the FDEP Request for Additional
Information for the 10int Coastal Permit applieation has been posted online. He
provided a eopy of a letter from Robert Diffenderfcr of Longman and Walker, P A
to Lanie Edwards of the Florida Department of Environmental Protection "Re:
DEP File no. 0296087-001-JC-Collier County Clam Pass Maintenance
Dredging" dated March 11,2010 for review.
Chairman Pires noted he requested the item be plaeed on the agenda for
informational purposcs as hc had received thc copy of the communieation from
Steve Feldhaus, Agent for the PBF.
Speakers
Marcia Cravens, Mangrove Aetion Group noted the JCP is the same
application as the 2006 permit application. The intent of the application is not as
represented whieh eites the "dredge template" as being the same as the previous
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permit issued to the County. PBS&l never answered the FDEP question, "is the
ebb shoal intended to be dredged."
Chairman Pires noted a PBS&l cover letter submitted with the response to the
RAl states "the application is not for dredging different than the past."
Discussion oecurred on the new PBF position of opposing any dredging within
the CBES, and the potential negative impaets on the overall health of the CBES
by lack of dredging for flushing purposes.
7. J.G. McAlpin Mareh 10,2008 Memo to Colleen Green
Gary MeAlpin provided an email from himself to Colleen Green, Collier County
Assistant County Attorney dated March 10, 2008, Re: "Request for Legal
Opinion - Dredging of Clam Bay for Navigation" for review.
He noted the email was a request for clarifications on the status of the restrictive
covenants on the property deeded to the County.
8. Clam Pass Park Conceptual Plan
Gary McAlpin noted Chairman Pires requested a presentation, for informational
purposes, on the proposed improvements at Clam Pass Park as the Mission
Statement incorporates issues within the whole Clam Bay Estuary System. The
proposed improvements include boardwalk, shade facilities, restrooms, etc. The
project requires approval of the Pelican Bay Foundation. The item is under the
purview of the Parks and Reereation Department (and the BCC.)
Speakers
Annice Gregerson had several detailed questions on the design of the project and
related uses, noting the plan as presented is difficult to view.
Chairman Pires requested staff provide a clear drawing "on line" for public
viewing and any persons with specific questions on the project submit them in
writing to Staff.
Linda Roth noted the doeument was only available yesterday, and was not posted
on the website.
Chairman Pires re-iterated the item was added to the agenda this week for
informational purposes to inform the Subcommittee and any other individuals on
a proposed project in Clam Bay. It is available in the meeting package posted on
line.
Marcia Cravens expressed eoneern all the County projects within the CBES are
being completed pieeemeal (Clam Pass Park, Clam Pass Navigation, Clam Pass
Modeling, ete.) which does not take aecount the overall environmental impaets to
the Natural Resouree Protection Area. The area is an Undeveloped Coastal
Barrier Resource System. The project is not consistent with the Growth
Management Plan or Land Development Code. The density required is 1 unit per
5 acres in the area and impacts are to be concentrated in previously disturbed area.
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Sarah Wu requested clarification if the goal is to expand the amount of users or
disperse the existing amount of users within the park.
Gary McAlpin stated the purpose is to meet both goals.
Chairman Pires noted:
. The development permits for different projects are at the jurisdiction of
the individual agencies involved, not a Master Permit.
. Comprehensive Planning Department Staff is responsible for
determinations on a projeet's consistency with the Growth Management
Plan.
. Allowed uses would be in accordanee with the PUD of Peliean Bay.
. Density requirements in the area refer to residential development.
9. CAC PeIiean Bay Workshop Update
Gary McAlpin noted he sent a letter to eaeh the PBF and PBSD informing them
the Coastal Advisory Committee reeommends a public workshop be held on the
CBES issues. The Pelican Bay Foundation verbally (March 15,2010) indicated
they were not interested in a workshop as proposed.
Chairman Pires noted he received an email from Steve Feldhaus on March 16,
2010 "Re: CAC Clam Bay Subcommittee" requesting the Foundation be
eonsulted on any activities occurring in Clam Bay and are prepared to work with
the County on the issues. They appreciate the offer for a workshop and would
like to find a way to work together.
The email did not "decline" the opportunity to participate in a "Public Workshop
and Gary MeAlpin stated he understood they were interested in a "Private
Workshop."
Chairman Pires noted he wi]] provide another written invitation to Mr. Feldhaus
for a Workshop.
IX. Old Business
None
X. Announeements
None
XI. Committee Member Diseussion
Chairman Pires stated he would be utilizing some of the information contained in
the Wanless Report for his eomments to be submitted to Staff on the PBS&J Water
Quality Study eonducted for Clam Bay.
XII. Next Meeting Date/Location
April 15,2010; 2800 N. Horseshoe Drive, Community Development, Conferenee
Room 609 & 610, Naples
There being no further business for the good ofthe County, the meeting was
adjourned by order of the chair at 3:57 P.M.
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Collier County Coastal Advisory Committee -
Clam Bay Subcommittee
Tony Pires, Chairman
These minutes approved by the Board/Cornmittee on
as presented or as amended
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