DSAC Minutes 12/02/2009 R
December 2, 2009
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Naples, Florida, December 2, 2009
LET IT BE REMEMBERED that the Collier County Development Services
Advisory Committee, in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business
herein, met on this date at I :00 PM in REGULAR SESSION in Conference Room
#610, Collier County Community Development and Environmental Services
Center, 2800 N. Horseshoe Drive, Naples, Florida, with the following Members
present:
CHAIRMAN: William Varian
James Boughton
Clay Brooker (Excused)
Laura Spurgeon Dejohn (Excused)
Dalas Disney
David Dunnavant
Marco Espinar (Excused)
Blair Foley
George Hermanson (Excused)
Reed Jarvi
Robert Mulhere
Mario Valle
ALSO PRESENT: Joe Schmitt, Administrator, CDES
Judy Puig, Operations Analyst, CDES - Staff Liaison
Heidi Ashton, Assistant County Attorney
Susan Istenes, Director, Zoning & Land Development
Catherine Fabacher, LDC Manager
Gary MUllee, CDES Operations Support Manager
Phil Gramatges, Interim Director, Public Utilities
Ed Riley, Fire Code Official
Stan Crzanowski, Sf. Engineer
Stephen Lenberger, Sf. Environmental Specialist
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE
AGENDA
December 2, 2009
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Conference Room 610
NOTICE:
Persons wishing to speak on any Agenda item will receive up to three (3) minutes unless the Chairman adjusts
the time. Speakers are required to fill out a "Speaker Request Form," list the topic they wish to address, and
hand it to the Staff member seated at the table before the meeting begins. Please wait to be recognized by the
Chairman, and speak into a microphone. State your name and affiliation before commenting. During
discussion, Committee Members may direct questions to the speaker.
Please silence cell phones and digital devices. There may not be a break in this meeting. Please leave the room
to conduct any personal business. All parties participating in the public meeting are to observe Roberts Rules
of Order, and wait to be recognized by the Chairman. Please speak one at a time and into the microphone so the
Hearing Reporter can record all statements being made.
I. Call to Order - Chairman
II. Approval of Agenda
III. Approval of Minutes from November 4, 2009 Meeting
IV. Public Speakers (other than those related to LDC Amendments)
V. LDC
A. LDC Amendment 2009 Cycle 1
VI. Staff Announcements/Updates
A. Public Utilities Division Update - Phil Gramatges
B. Fire Review Update - Ed Riley
C. Transportation Division Update - Nick Casalanguida
D. CDES Update - Joe Schmitt
VII. Old Business - None
VIII. New Business
A. DSAC to review & evaluate the performance levels of CDES staff to report to the BCC monthly
(Staff to submit monthly reports)
B. Review applications received for Applicants to serve on the DSAC Board - (currently have 4 vacancies)
IX. Committee Member Comments
X. Adjourn
Next MeetinQ Dates
January 6.2010
February 3. 2010
March 3, 2010
April 7, 2010
CDES Conference Room 610 - 3:00 pm
CDES Conference Room 610 - 3:00 pm
CDES Conference Room 610 - 3:00 pm
CDES Conference Room 610 - 3:00 pm
December 2, 2009
I. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 1:06 PM by Chairman William Varian who read
the procedures to be followed during the Meeting.
Chairman Varian noted a quorum had not been attained since only seven members were
present and stated the Committee will hear matters not requiring a vote until the eighth
member arrives and a quorum is achieved.
Catherine Fabacher suggested the members review the Amendment authored by
Mark White, Esq., concerning "Nonconformities."
Suggested changes:
(1) On Page 2, under the definition of Destruction, remove the words "intentional"
and "of the owner or agent" from the second sentence.
(2) It was suggested to remove the 50% figure and substitute ''pursuant to the
Florida Building Code for Existing Buildings at Level 3 in effect at the time the
damage occurred"
Catherine Fabacher stated she will research the issue and return with an
answer. She stated there will be a reference to the "Build-Back Policy" and the
Code of Laws, possibly as "Exceptions."
(3) On Page 19, under "D. Destruction," remove the words "not" and "except"
from the first sentence.
(4) On Page 3, under "Nonconforming site improvement," remove "Chapter Four"
and "of' from the sentence.
(5) On Page 4, under "Redevelopment," replace the word "replacement" with the
word "expansion."
(Rohert Mulhere arrived at 1:56 PM)
(6) On Page 4, under "9.01.01 - Previously Issued Building Permits," revise the
language to reflect that the "effective date" is the date when the application for
the permit has been accepted.
Catherine Fabacher suggested the following language: "When a sufficient
application for a Building Permit has been accepted by the County. "
(7) On Page 5, under #3, remove the phrase "without interruption" from the
sentence and add the phrase "or the permit is extended" to the end of the
sentence.
A conflict was noted in 5.05.08 and it was suggested the figure should be 50%.
By consensus, further discussion concerning the Amendment was tabled until the
January 2010 meeting when a revised Amendment will be presented to the Committee.
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Chairman Varian stated a quorum had been achieved.
II. Approval of Agenda
Blair Foley moved to approve the Agenda as submitted. Second by Mario Valle.
Carried unanimously, 8-0.
III. Approval of Minutes - November 4,2009 Meeting
Robert Mulhere moved to approve the Minutes of the November 4,2009 Meeting as
submitted. Second by James Boughton. Carried unanimously, 8-0.
Chairman Varian noted the Board of County Commissioner approved the re-appointment
of Clay Brooker and Reed Jarvi to the Development Services Advisory Committee.
IV. Public Speakers
(None)
V. LDC
A. LDC Amendment 2009 Cycle 1
(A copy of the Minutes of the LDR Subcommittee meeting of November 18, 2009
was included in the information packet distributed to the Committee.)
Section 10.02.02 - Submittal Requirements for All Applications
Changes:
(1) On Page 11, under Item "a. Wetlands - ii," remove both the comma before the
word "biochemical" and the phrase "biochemical oxygen demand, total suspended
solids, lead, zinc and copper" from the last sentence which will read as follows:
"The analysis shall be performed using methodologies approved by
Federal and State water quality agencies, and must demonstrate no
increase in nutrient loadings in the post development scenario. "
It was noted language should be added that all changes will conform to the Growth
Management Plan ("GMP").
Stephen Lenberger reviewed the Exceptions section which began on Page 14. There
was a discussion concerning water quality analysis and the Harbor method.
Reed Jarvi moved to recommend approving the revised Amendment as noted above
(and to forward it to the Board of County Commissioners). Second by Robert
Mulhere. Carried unanimously, 8-0.
Section 1.08.02 - Definitions (specifically: "corner," "through," "interior lots," and
"comer lot measurements")
Changes:
(1) On Page 2, the definition of "Lot, corner" will read as follows (inserted language
is in italics):
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"Any lot situated at the junction of and abutting on two or more
intersecting streets.
Ifthe angle of intersection of the Right of Way centerline of two
streetsforming a corner is greater than 135 degrees, then the lot
fronting on the intersection is not a comer lot."
(2) On Page 3 (below illustrations), change Centerline of "Street" to "Right of Way"
Robert Mulhere moved to recommend approving the revised Amendment as noted
above (and to forward it to the Board of County Commissioners). Second by Blair
Foley. Carried unanimously, 8-0.
Section 1.08.02 - Definitions (specifically: "chord method" and "arc method")
Changes:
(1) Label the dimensions as "minimum"
(2) Remove numbered dimensions
(3) An island is not necessary at a cul-de-sac
Reed Jarvi moved to recommend approving the revised Amendment as noted above
(and to forward it to the Board of County Commissioners). Second by Blair Foley.
Carried unanimously, 8-0.
Section 4.02.01 - Dimensional Standards for Principal Uses in Base Zoning
Districts
Section 4.02.03 - Specific Standards for Location of Accessory Buildings and
Structures
Section 1.08.02 - Definitions
Susan Istenes stated the Definitions Section of the Amendment was withdrawn as it
was confusing and unnecessary.
Reed Jarvi moved to recommend approving the revised Amendment as noted above
(and to forward it to the Board of County Commissioners). Second by Dalas Disney.
Carried unanimously, 8-0.
Section 4.03.03 - Exemptions
Section 4.03.04 - Lot Line Adjustments
Section 10.02.02 - Submittal Reqnirements for All Applications
Robert Mulhere moved to recommend approving the revised Amendment as noted
above (and toforward it to the Board of County Commissioners). Second by David
Dunnavant. Carried unanimously, 8-0.
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Section 5.03.03 - Fences and Walls
Changes:
(1) On Page II, under "1. Sound Walls," change:
. ""government" to "governmental"
· order: from "interstate, collector or arterial" to "interstate, arterial or
collector"
. roadways to roadway
Reed Jarvi moved to recommend approving the revised Amendment as noted above
(and to forward it to the Board of County Commissioners for approval). Second by
Mario Valle. Carried unanimously, 8-0.
Section 10.03.05 - Notice Requirements for Public Hearings before the Board of
County Commissioners, the Planning Commission, the Board of Zoning
Appeals, the Environmental Advisory Committee, and the Historic Preservation
Board
There was discussion concerning the requirement to advertise "Notice to Obtain an
Extension ofa Conditional Use." The objection was to require additional notification
for a second public hearing when, in order to obtain a Conditional Use initially, a
public hearing was required and had been held.
Robert Mulhere moved to deny approval and not forward the Amendment to the
Board of County Commissioners based on the fact that the extension is issued on a
one-time basis for a matter that was previously vetted. Second by Dalas Disney.
Discussion continued and it was suggested that posting a sign announcing a public
hearing should be sufficient notice without requiring mailing notification to
surrounding homes.
Staff supported the additional notification and will present the Amendment to the
Board of County Commissioners, but will note DSAC's objection.
Carried unanimously, 8-0.
Section 2.03.08 - Rural Fringe Zoning Districts (limits aquaculture in Sending
Lands to above-ground facilities only).
Reed Jarvi moved to deny approval and not forward the Amendment to the Board
of County Commissioners because the Fiscal and Operational Impacts have not
been identified. Second by James Boughton. Motion carried, 5-"Yes"/3-"No,"
with Robert Mulhere, Blair Foley and Marco Valle opposed.
Catherine Fabacher stated a final LDR Subcommittee meeting may be necessary in
January 2010, and two additional Amendments will be presented by Stephen
Lenberger at DSAC's January meeting.
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BREAK: 3:35 PM
RECONVENED: 3:45 PM
VI. Staff AnnouncementslUpdates
A. Public Utilities Division Update - Phil Gramatges, Interim Director
· The ClE List has been completed for presentation to the Planning
Commission
· The next phase of the lower West Coast Water Supply Plan is being devised in
conjunction with the South Florida Water Management District
B. Fire Review Update - Ed Riley
. Monthly report was submitted
· Have obtained approval to start building a 9,300 square-foot facility on
property located near the Credit Union
C. Transportation Division Update - Claudine AuClaire for Nick Casalanguida
. No report
· It was mentioned the DOT's official projected date for completion of the
Vanderbilt Beach Bridge remains as December 19, 2009
· The date for submission of the Oil Well Road bids to the Board of County
Commissioners will be forwarded to Judy Puig for distribution to the
Committee
There was a discussion concerning the location of the "red light" cameras.
D. CDES Update - Joe Schmitt
. No report
VII. Old Business
(None)
VIII. New Business
B. Review of Applications received for vacancies
Chairman Varian stated the application from Ray Allain could not be considered
due to a discrepancy with his voting registration address and his home address.
He noted James Boughton had submitted his application and suggested filling three
spots during the meeting but holding one open for a General Contractor.
Dalas Disney moved to approve re-appointing James Boughton to DSAC and
submit the nomination to the BCC for approval. Second by Blair Foley. Carried
unanimously, 7-"Yes''/I-Abstention. Mr. Boughton abstained.
David Dunnavant moved to approve appointing David Hurst to DSAC and submit
the nomination to the BCC for approval. Second by Dalas Disney. Carried
unanimously, 8-0.
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Robert Mulhere moved to approve appointing Henry Reagan to DSAC and submit
the nomination to the BCC for approval. Second by Blair Foley. Carried
unanimously, 8-0.
A. DSAC to Review and Evaluate the Performance Levels of CDES Staff and
submit a monthly Report to the Board of County Commissioners
(Incorporated into Item "C")
The BCC directed DSAC to become involved in performance reviews ofCDES.
C. Building Department Fee Proposal- Continuing Work Items - Gary Mullee
(Added Topic)
A copy of a Status Report entitled "Building Department Fee Proposal Continuing
Work Items" was distributed to the members.
Gary Mullee outlined the "work in progress" for each item with corresponding
deadlines.
He stated a commitment was made to the BCC to submit ajoint monthly performance
report with DSAC beginning in February 2010.
Also discussed were document storage, retrieval, and electronic submittal as well as
the scope of the report and the type of analysis to be made to the Board.
Public Speaker:
Thomas Lykos, President, CBIA ("Collier Building Industry Association"), stated a
missing component from the list of work items was the establishment of benchmarks to
achieve the self-imposed deadlines created by CDES and an estimate of how long will it
take to obtain compliance with the standard (5 days for residential permits and 15 days
for commercial permits). He suggested the following:
· Re: information gathering - the type/quantity of permits and days in review will
be critical in developing a system to expedite permit review process
. Track the most common reasons for rejection of permits
· Create numbering systems to identify the different permit applications to
streamline the process - for example, a kitchen renovation for a condo will not
require a FEMA or an Impact Fee review
. Compile a list ofBCC requirements that slow down the plan review process
· Institute the ability to pay fees over the phone or via Intemet to enable the County
to mail out documents, such as a Certificate of Completion
Gary MuUee stated the tracking process will be significantly easier when CityView goes
online on February 23, 2010.
Joe Schmitt stated it was confirmed that Ray Allain is a registered voter and the conflict
regarding his address was resolved.
Robert Mulhere moved to approve appointing Ray Allain to DSAC and submit the
nomination to the BCC for approval. Second by Reed Jarvi. Carried unanimously,
8-0.
IX. Committee Member Comments
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David Dunnavant proposed continuing the LDR Subcommittee to review Amendments
that impact the Building Industry.
Chairman Varian stated the topic will be added to the January 2010 Agenda.
Next Meetinl! Dates:
Jannary 6, 2010 @ 3:00 PM
February 3, 2010 @ 3:00 PM
March 3, 2010 @ 3:00 PM
April 7, 2010 @3:00 PM
There being no further business for the good ofthe County, the meeting was adjourned
by order of the Chairman at 4:36 PM.
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES
ADVISORY COMMITTEE
William Varian, Chairman
The Minutes were approved by the Board/Committee on
as presented , or as amended
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