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October 8, 2009
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Naples, Florida, October 8, 2009
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Coastal Advisory
Committee, in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business
Herein, met on this date at 1 :00 P.M. in REGULAR SESSION at
Administrative Building "F," 3rd Floor, Collier County Government
Complex Naples, Florida with the following members present:
CHAIRMAN: John Sorey, III
VICE CHAIRMAN: Anthony Pires
Murray Hendel
Larry Magel
Joseph A. Moreland
Ted Forcht
Victor Rios
Jim Burke
Robert Raymond (Excused)
ALSO PRESENT: Gary McAlpin, Director, Coastal Zone Management
Colleen Greene, Assistant County Attorney
Gail Hambright, Accountant
Dr. Michael Bauer, City of Naples
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MEETING AGENDA & NOTICE
. MEETING AGENDA &. NOTICE
COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE (CAC)
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 8, 2009 - 1:00 P.M.
TURNER BUILDING (Administrative Building F, 3rd Floor Collier County Government Center,
3301 E. Tamiami Trail, Naples)
PUBLIC NOTICE
I. Call to Order
II. Pledge of Allegiance
III. Roll Call
IV. Changes and Approval of Agenda
V. Public Comments
VI. Approval of CAC Minutes
1. AUGust 13. 2009
VII. Staff Reports
1. EXDanded Revenue ReDort - Gary McAIDin
2. Proiect Cost Report - Garv McAlpin
VIII. New Business
1. Revised Procedures for CAC
2. CBAC ReDort &. Budget - UDdate DRAFT
3. Wiggins Pass Inlet Modification and Review
4. Biological MonitorinG - UDdate
5. 2009 Beach MonitorinG Results
a. ADDendix "A" Comparative Profiles
6. Inlet ManaGement Plan and Critically Eroded Beaches
IX. Old Business
1. Gordon River Funding and Dredging
2. Hideaway Beach Erosion Control Structure Funding - Update
X. Public Comment
XI. Announcements
1. City of NaDles &. Marco Island Letter of ODDosition to Modify Beach Fundina for
Tourism Promotion
2. City of NaDles Interlocal Aareement
3. NY Times Articles
XII. Committee Member Discussion
XIII. Next Meeting Date/Location
November 12, 2009 - City of Naples Chambers
VX. Adjournment
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I. Call to Order
Chairman Sorey called the meeting to order at 1 :00 PM
II. Pledge of Allegiance
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
III. Roll Call
Roll Call was taken with a quorum established.
IV. Changes and Approval of Agenda
Gary McAlpin, Director, Coastal Zone Management provided an update for item
VIII.2 (because of a Clam Bay Advisory Group meeting the morning of October 8,
2009.)
Mr. Rios moved to approve the Agenda. Second by Mr. Pires. Carried
unanimously 7-0.
V. Public Comments
None
VI. Approval of CAC Minutes
1. August 13, 2009
Mr. Rios moved to approve the minutes of the August 13,2009 Meeting subject
to the followinl! additions:
Page 4, paragraph 4, line 2 from ".. .as necessary." to .. ."as necessary to be
consistent with the approved rate schedule. "
Page 4, paragraph 6, line 3 from".. ..this Agenda Item did not to utilize the..." to
"this Agenda Item did not utilize the..."
Page 5, paragraph 3, line 2 from ".. .subcommittees work" to "subcommittee's
work.. ."
Second by Mr. Burke. Carried unanimously 7-0.
VII. Staff Reports
1. Expanded Revenue Report - Gary McAlpin
The council reviewed the "Tourist Tax Revenue Report" updated through the
August 2009 collection period
2. Project Cost Report - Gary McAlpin
The council reviewed the document "FY 200912010 TDC Category "A" Beach
Maintenance Projects" updated through September 30, 2009.
VIII. New Business
Mr. Hendel arrived 1: 12pm
1. Revised Procedures for CAC
Gary McAlpin, Director, Coastal Zone Management presented the Executive
Summary "Procedures for Coastal Advisory Committee" dated October 8, 2009 and
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a copy of Resolution No. 2004-01, (as revised), Section A-9 which addresses "Order
of Business."
The committee requested new agenda item (e) - "First Public Comment," as
provided in Section A-.9 of the Ordinance, be revised to "Public Comment."
It was noted, the 3-minute time limit for "Public Speakers" may be increased.
at the Chairman's discretion.
Mr. Moreland moved to approve the document "Procedures for Coastal Advisory
Committee" dated October 8, 2009. Second by Mr. Rios. Carried unanimously 8-0.
2. CBAC Report & Budget - Update DRAFT
Gary McAlpin presented the Executive Summary" Recommend that the Coastal
Advisory Committee approve the Clam Bay Advisory Committee update report dated
9/25/09, extend the Clam Bay Advisory Committee to June 30,2010 and approve the
proposed budget of $234,917 required to complete the development of a
comprehensive, long term management plan for the Clam Bay estuary" and "Clam
Bay Advisory Committee - Operational Budget and Capital Requirements - August
2009 through July 2010" dated October 8, 2009. He provided an overview of the
activities and the proposed budget prepared by CBAC for their continued activities.
He noted the CBAC revised the proposed budget at their meeting on the morning of
October 8, 2009.
Committee discussion occurred on:
. Should the Executive Summary be modified to provide the reasons the
CBAC can not meet its deadline of October 15, 2009?
. Should the CBAC be extended longer than June 30, 2010?
Gary McAlpin responded noting the reasons for not meeting the deadline (the
length in seating the committee, the significant amount of time spent on the issue
of the originall0-year permit, navigational markers for the System, etc.) will be
provided in the Executive Summary prepared for the BCC.
The CBAC determined the recommended extension for the committee should be 6
months because some members applied for service in anticipation the committee
would sunset on December 31, 2009.
Mr. Pires recommended the committee be extended for a longer period due to the
status of the permits subject to legal challenges, etc.
Gary McAlpin noted the "lO-year permit," aids to navigational, may not be resolved
by June 30, 2010, but the Water Quality Management Plan should be completed
within the time frame.
Mr. Pires expressed concern the Request for Additional Information (RAI) issued by
Florida Department of Environmental Protection (FDEP) for the "10 year permit
application" cited the omission or misidentification of some technical data. In
particular, "the omission of the mean high water line;" exhibits/attachments cited
were not found in the application; data on some sheets was "illegible;" the application
cited a Joint Coastal Permit (JCP) from a different project ("the application references
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JCP File # 0296087-001, the maintenance assurance quality control program
references another file - JCP 012843-001, a completely different project"); and
requested the Applicant "make sure the plan submitted is for this project."
He expressed concern on these oversights and wants to ensure the County does not
pay consultants for addressing items that should have been correct in the original
submittal.
Gary McAlpin noted the FDEP permit process typically involves a series ofRAI's
provided to the applicant. The RAI's usually require the applicant to provide a
response to a variety of questions depending on the type of project. The CBAC did
review the application and approve its submittal.
Chairman Sorey requested Mr. Pires act on the committee's behalf and contact Mr.
McAlpin to outline the concerns to ensure the RAI is thoroughly addressed
Chairman Sorey noted, in relation to the sun setting of the CBAC some items may
need to be returned to the Coastal Advisory Committee for their oversight.
The committee noted on page 9 of 11 of the report the term "special committee"
should be revised to indicate the activity is being conducted by a "Work Group" (or
similar language) comprised of one CBAC member and members of the public.
Speaker
Linda Roth, Pelican Bay Resident appeared before the council to discuss navigation
issues and their relation to the "10 year permit" and the "Clam Bay Restoration and
Management Plan."
Chairman Sorey noted the Board of County Commissioners has decided the "Aids
to Navigation" issue; this is not the forum to address it.
Marcia Cravens, Mangrove Action Group presented a DVD "The Greatest Good"
and noted there are competing uses in the Clam Bay System. She expressed concern
the proposed master plan is re-directing the primary use/focus of the area from
wildlife refuge, water quality management, etc. to navigation. The water quality
problem that needs to be addressed is in Moorings Bay, Venetian Bay and the
Seagate area. These issues should not be linked to the clean water in Clam Bay,
which is a healthy diverse system.
Mr. Burke moved to approve the Clam Bay Advisory Group Status Report (Work
Plan) and recommended the Clam Bay Advisory Group be extended through June
30,2010. Second by Mr. Moreland. Carried unanimously 8-0.
3. Wiggins Pass Inlet Modification and Review
Gary McAlpin presented the Executive Summary "Recommend that the Coastal
Advisory Committee review and approve the Wiggins Pass Project description.
This will serve as the basis for permit and design activity with the required
regulatory agencies. Also recommend that the Wiggins Pass Work Group be
reestablished to maintain timely community input and review of the final work
product" dated October 8, 2009.
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Stephen Keehn, Coastal Planning and Engineering presented a slide show for
the proposed solution to extend the dredging cycle at Wiggins Pass. He noted the
solution was developed utilizing a computerized morphology model for the pass.
The model was created from an extensive amount of research, data collection and
analysis. The model continues to be calibrated as data becomes available.
Gary McAlpin noted any solutions will be in conformance with the Inlet
Management Plan (provide navigation for a 3 foot draft vessel, etc). The soft
engineering solution is intended to increase the dredging cycle from 18 months to
4 years (approximately) and stabilize the erosion on the south end of Barefoot
Beach.
Mr. Rios noted modeling concepts in general, are only as good as the
assumptions utilized in developing them and questioned the accuracy in it
predicting future conditions.
Gary McAlpin noted the model was prepared based on a variety of historic
conditions. It is continually re-calibrated, analyzed and compared to actual
historic conditions to ensure the results it produces are accurate.
Mr. Rios expressed concern over the accuracy of the model predicting future
conditions.
The committee noted:
. Page 3, last paragraph, clarifies the wording to ensure it provides the
concept for maintaining navigation for a 3-foot draft vessel.
. Page 3, paragraph 2, clarify ifthere are any restrictions due to the Growth
Management Plan and Land Development Codes.
. The boating community should continue to be educated on the size of
boats the pass is designed to accommodate.
. The PowerPoint presentation be posted on the Coastal Advisory
Committee website.
Speaker
Dick Lydon, Vanderbilt Resident noted Turkey Bay was similar to Wiggins
Pass before it was dredged and straightened 11 years ago. At the time, there were
concerns the channel would return to its original alignment after the dredging. It
is still navigable today, without any additional dredging. The County is
expending too much money dredging Wiggins Pass and believes it can be cut in
half with the proposal.
Mr. Moreland moved to approve the Executive Summary (Recommend that the
Coastal Advisory Committee review and approval the Wiggins Pass project
description. This will serve as the basis for permit and design activity with the
required regulatory agencies. Also recommend that the Wiggins Pass Work
Group be reestablished to maintain timely community input and review of the
final work product.'? Second by Mr. Burke. Motion carried 7 'yes" -1 "no."
Mr. Pires voted "no. "
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4. Biological Monitoring - Update
Gary McAlpin presented the Executive Summary "Information update for the
CAC on Biological Monitoring progress" dated October 8, 2009. He provided an
overview on the Status ofthe Monitoring Program.
5. 2009 Beach Monitoring Results
Gary McAlpin presented the Executive Summary "Share the results of the 2009
Physical Beach Monitoring Survey with the Coastal Advisory Committee dated
October 8, 2009 and "Collier County Beach Renourishment Project Three Year
Post-Construction Monitoring Report" prepared by Coastal Planning and
Engineering dated September 2009. He provided an overview including:
. The status and detailed analysis of the monitoring for Collier County
Beaches and the City of Naples Beaches, as applicable.
. In December, the status of the Marco Beaches will be available.
. Staff is in the process reviewing the options for maintaining the beaches
over the next 3 years (based on available FEMA funding and the
necessity to re-nourish various beaches etc.)
The committee determined staff should continue to prepare a set of options for
future beach maintenance for their review.
a. Appendix "A" Comparative Profiles
Gary McAlpin provided "APPENDIX A -COMPARATIVE PROFILES (PRE-
CONSTRUCTION NOVEMBER 2005 POST-CONSTRUCTION JUNE 2006
TWO YEAR POST-CONSTRUCTION JUNE/SEPTEMBER 2008 THREE
YEAR POST-CONSTRUCTION JULY 2009)" as backup data in relation to the
Executive Summary listed above
6. Inlet Management Plan and Critically Eroded Beaches
Gary McAlpin presented the Executive Summary "Discuss with the Coastal
Advisory Committee recent development of FDEP that will fund Inlet
Management Plans that abut critically eroded beaches" dated October 8, 2009.
He noted staff would like to request the FDEP review the south end of Barefoot
Beach and declare it a "critically eroded beach." This would allow the awarding
ofFDEP matching funds for maintenance in the area.
The committee reached consensus to move forward on the concept and for staff to
return the item to them as an "action item. "
IX. Old Business
1. Gordon River Funding and Dredging
Gary McAlpin noted the re-bidding process is on going for the Gordon River
dredging.
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2. Hideaway Beach Erosion Control Structure Funding - Update
Gary McAlpin noted the project has gone out for bidding and indicated the bids
are approximately $lM (as opposed to the $1.6M authorized.)
Speaker
Ken Humiston, Humiston and Moore noted there were 11 bidders on the project
and there will be a savings if the project is awarded to the low bidder. He cautioned
the low bidder may not be awarded the project, as they may be deemed "not
qualified." The awarding of the winning bid may not result in any substantial cost
savmgs.
Gary McAlpin noted the issue may be returned to the Board of County
Commissioners (on the issue if the low bidder is "qualified") and the item was for
informational purposes only.
X. Public Comments
Marcia Cravens, Mangrove Action Group requested the committee begin to
consider more environmentally friendly (green) options in maintaining inlets and
restoring degrading areas. She expressed concern dredging inlets in near shore areas
is somewhat futile, as the areas are dredged and subsequently fill back in with
sediment.
XI. Announcements
1. City of Naples & Marco Island Letter of Opposition to Modify Beach
Funding for Tourism Promotion
Gary McAlpin presented a letter from Bill Barnett, Mayor, City of Naples to
Donna Fiala, Chairman of the Collier County Board of Commissioners - Re:
"Opposition to a Tourist Development Subcommittee recommendation to modify
beach funding for tourism promotion" dated August 21, 2009.
In addition, a letter from Robert J Popoff, Council Chairman for the City of
Marco Island, 2009 to Donna Fiala Chairman of the Board of County
Commissioners dated September 25, expressing concern over re-directing
emergency beach reserves for tourism promotion.
The item was for informational purposes.
Speaker
Marcia Cravens expressed concern over the opposition to increase funding for
marketing as an inordinate amount of TDC Funds are spent on dredging with
shrinking amounts of funds spent on tourism promotion.
2. City of Naples Inter-local Agreement
Gary McAlpin presented the document "Inter-local Agreement between the
County and the City of Naples for Clam Bay Water Quality Study" for
informational purposes.
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3. NY Times Articles
Gary McAlpin submitted an excerpt from a NY Times article regarding the
U.S. Supreme Court hearing on the Florida beach re-nourishment case for
informational purposes.
XII. Committee Member Discussion
Mr. Pires requested clarification on the status ofthe working relationship between
the CBAC and Pelican Bay Foundation given legal challenges being brought forth.
In addition, he will meet with Mr. McAlpin regarding the concerns expressed in Item
VII.2, herein discussed.
Gary McAlpin noted the CBAC continues to have a good working relationship with
the Pelican Bay Foundation.
Mr. Hendel recommended the preparation of the detailed statistics regarding tourist
tax collections be generated via the Tourist Development Council.
Mr. Rios noted the committee attempts to balance environmental quality with human
needs with the activities it oversees. He thanked staff for their diligence in their
endeavors.
Mr. Magel reported the Tax Collector contacted the development he resides in
regarding seasonal rentals, which indicates the office is getting more aggressive in
collecting these revenues.
XIII. Next Meeting Date
November 12,2009 - City of Naples Chambers
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There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was
adjourned by order of the Chair at 3:15 P.M.
Collier County Coastal Advisory Committee
John Sorey, III Chairman
These minutes approved by the Board/Committee on
as presented or as amended
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