DSAC Minutes 10/07/2009 R
October 7, 2009
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Naples, Florida, October 7, 2009
LET IT BE REMEMBERED that the Collier County Development Services
Advisory Committee, having conducted business herein, met on this date at
1 :00 PM in REGULAR AND LDC SESSION in Conference Room #610, Collier
County Community Development and Environmental Services Center, 2800 N.
Horseshoe Drive, Naples, Florida, with the following Members present:
CHAIRMAN:
Vice Chair:
William Varian
Thomas Masters (Excused)
J ames Boughton (Excused)
Clay Brooker
Laura Spurgeon DeJohn
Dalas Disney
David Dunnavant
Marco Espinar (Excused)
Blair Foley
George Hermanson
Reed Jarvi
Robert Mulhere
Reid Schermer (Absent)
Mario Valle (Excused)
ALSO PRESENT: Joe Schmitt, Administrator, CDES
Judy Puig, Operations Analyst, CDES - Staff Liaison
Jeff Wright, Assistant County Attorney
Nick Casalanguida, Director, TransportationIPlanning
Gary Mullee, CDES Operations Support Manager
Ed Riley, Fire Code Official, Fire Code Office
Amy Patterson, Impact Fee Manager
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE
AGENDA
October 7, 2009
Conference Room 610
NOTICE:
Persons wishing to speak on any Agenda item will receive up to three (3) minutes unless the Chairman adjusts
the time. Speakers are required to fill out a "Speaker Request Form," list the topic they wish to address, and
hand it to the Staff member seated at the table before the meeting begins. Please wait to be recognized by the
Chairman, and speak into a microphone. State your name and affiliation before commenting. During
discussion, Committee Members may direct questions to the speaker.
Please silence cell phones and digital devices. There may not be a break in this meeting. Please leave the room
to conduct any personal business. All parties participating in the public meeting are to observe Roberts Rules
of Order, and wait to be recognized by the Chairman. Please speak one at a time and into the microphone so the
Hearing Reporter can record all statements being made.
I. Call to Order - Chairman
II. Approval of Agenda
III. Approval of Minutes from September 16, 2009 Meeting
IV. Public Speakers (other than those related to LDC Amendments)
V. LDC
A. LDC Amendment 2009 Cycle 1
VI. Staff Announcements/Updates
A. Public Utilities Division Update - Phil Gramatges
B. Fire Review Update - Ed Riley (Fire Alarm Rehabilitation work Memo)
C. Transportation Division Update - Nick Casalanguida
D. CDES Update - Joe Schmitt
VII. Old Business
A. Parks & Recreations Impact fee study "update" - Amy Patterson
VIII. New Business
A. CDES Fee Schedule - Gary Mullee
IX. Committee Member Comments
X. Adjourn
Next Meetina Dates
CDES Conference Room 610 - 2:00-5:00 pm
October 21,2009
Reaular DSAC meetinas:
November 4,2009 CDES Conference Room 610-
December 2, 2009 CDES Conference Room 610 - 3:00 pm
October 7, 2009
I. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 1: 12 PM by Chairman William Varian and a
quorum was established.
Chairman Varian read the procedures to be followed during the meeting.
Chairman Varian requested a moment of silence in memory of committee member
Charles Abbott who passed away on October 2,2009.
It was suggested to recommend a commendation, i.e., the "Advisory Committee Member
Recognition," to honor Charley's service to the committee.
Judy Puig, staff liaison, was asked to obtain additional information.
II. Approval of Agenda
Chairman Varian stated Item V, "LDC Amendments," will be heard until 3:00 PM.
David Dunnavant moved to approve the Agenda as submitted. Second by Reed Jarvi.
Carried unanimously, 8-0.
III. Approval of Minutes - September 16, 2009 Meeting
Correction:
. Page 4, under "C," Willow Road was changed to Oil Well Road
Clay Brooker moved to approve the Minutes o/the September 16,2009 Meeting as
amended. Second by Reed Jarvi. Carried unanimously, 8-0.
Catherine Fabacher noted the information packet distributed to the members contained
the minutes of the LDR Subcommittee Meeting, also held on September 16, 2009.
IV. Public Speakers: (to be heard following Item presentation)
V. LDC
A. LDC Amendment 2009 Cycle 1
Section 2.03.07 L - Vanderbilt Beach Residential Tourist Overlay District
Private Petition presented by Patrick White, Esq., Porter, White et aI, on behalf of the
Vanderbilt Beach Resident's Association
Purpose: Applicant seeks to establish procedures requiring all development and
re-development within the VBRTO to provide SPD/SIP notification to all property
owners within 500 feet of the subject property. Also proposes the removal of
permitted encroachment into required yards for VBRTO.
Previous Action: The LDR Subcommittee approved the amendment subject to
removal of the notification requirements and removal of the proposed setbacks for
accessory structures. The amendment, as revised, was forwarded to DSAC for review
and approval.
EA C requested revisions:
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. (Page 8) "5. d. - Site Improvement:" the EAC re-inserted text removed by
DSAC as follows:
(1) By mail to all property owners within 500 feet of the lands comprising the
boundary of such application and... at line 5, following the word "provided"
(2) To all required property owners ... at line 10, following the word "notice"
. (Page 8) "6. - Dimensional Standards:" the EAC re-inserted text removed by
DSAC:
(Specifically including ramps for parkingfacilities) at line 2, following the word
"accessory"
. (Page 9) "6. f. - Distance between Structures:" the EAC re-inserted text
removed by DSAC:
(Specifically excluding accessory buildings used for essential services such as
utilities) at lines 3 and 4, following the word "buildings"
Discussion ensued regarding the EAC's intentions, "Burt-Harris" issues, unintended
consequences, possible environmental issues with regard to set-backs, and height
versus zoned height.
(Dalas Disney arrived at 2:00 PM)
Provosed Chanf!es:
. (Page 8) "5. d. - Site Improvement" - remove the text re-inserted by the EAC
(see above)
. (Page 9) "6. f. - Distance between Structures" (Line 5):
o (Line 5) insert the phrase,for accessory buildings, following the word "feet"
o (Line 5) change the word "or" to "and"
o (Line 5) change "actual" to "zoned" heights (for consistency)
o (Line 6) remove the phrase, whichever is greater
. (Page 10) "13. Vested Rights"-
o Remove the language following the word "approval" (at line 3) through the
word "thereafter" on line 10
(To clarify: "... or plat approval are subject to the.. .")
George Hermanson moved to revise the Amendment as outlined above and return
the revised document to DSAC at its next meeting. Second by Bob Mulhere.
Public Speaker:
Kathy Robbins, Secretary - Vanderbilt Beach Resident's Association, stated the
Association preferred to receive advance notice of projects under development in the
Vanderbilt Beach area and supported the suggested revisions to the amendment.
Motion carried, 8 - "Yes"/1- "No." David Dunnavant was opposed.
Section 3. 06.06 - Regulated Well Fields
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Presented by Ray Smith, Director, Pollution Control Prevention Department
Pumose:
"C" - Replace existing Illustration "C" with proposed update of Collier County
Utilities Golden Gate Well Field Illustration
"E" - Replace existing Illustration "E" with proposed update of Florida
Governmental Utility Authority Golden Gate City Well Field Illustration
"F" - Replace existing Illustration "F" with proposed update of Orange Tree Well
Field Illustration
"H" - Add Ave Maria Utility Company Well Field
"H" - Insert a new Ava Maria Utility Company Well Field Illustration which will be
referred to as 3.06.06 H
Previous Action: The Well Fields Protection Zones were adopted within the Growth
Management Plan - Future Land Use Element ("Well Head Protection Areas")
A definition of "W -I" was requested: travel time of a particle of water from its
source to the well head.
Proposed Changes:
. Orange Tree Well Field illustration is to be labeled
Clay Brooker moved to recommend approval of the Amendments as outlined above
and forward the recommendation to the Board of County Commissioners for
review. Second by Robert Mulhere. Carried unanimously, 9-0.
Section 3.05.07 H.1.b - Preservation Standards (2004 EAR-based Amendments)
Section 3.05.07 H.1.d - Preservation Standards (2004 EAR-based Amendments)
Section 3.05.07 H.1.e - Preservation Standards (2004 EAR-based Amendments)
Section 3.05.07 H.1.e: - Preservation Standards (2004 EAR-based Amendments)
Presented by Stephen Lenberger, Senior Environmental Specialist
Previous Action:
. The LDR Subcommittee unanimously approved Amendments (b), (d) and (e) as
presented.
. Re: Amendment (g), the subcommittee recommended approval pending a change
on page 47 in Subparagraph "viii." at line 7: insert "levels" following the word
"water" and delete the phrase "monitoringfor hydrology"
(Note: staff incorporated the change.)
Proposed Changes:
. To H.1.b (Page 25) "b. - Minimum dimensions" - (Line 8) change the word
"is" to "are"
Discussion ensued concerning the size of the "structural buffer" (see page 45)
Robert Mulhere moved to recommend approval of the four EAR-based Amendments
outlined above and forward recommendation to the Board of County Commissioners
for review. Second by George Hermanson. Carried unanimously, 9-0.
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Section 10.02.07 - Submittal Requirements for Certificates of Public Facility
Adequacy
Presented by Amy Patterson and Nick Casalanguida
Purpose: Change the portion of transportation impact fees to be paid, upon approval
of final local Development Order from 50% to 20%, and the balance due shall be paid
in 20% increments per year thereafter.
Reason: To comply with Ordinance Amendment 2009-09 adopted by the BCC on
March 10,2009.
Robert Mulhere moved to recommend approval of the Amendment and forward the
recommendation to the Board of County Commissioners for review. Second by
David Dunnavant. Carried unanimously, 9-0.
Section 10.02.13 - Planned Unit Development ("PUD") Procedures
Purpose: To clarify responsibility for submittal ofPUD Monitoring Reports and
correct sun-setting text - extensions run from original sunset date vs. original
approval date
Reason: The County Attorney's Office has determined the responsibility for submittal
of the Annual Monitoring Report is held by the owner of the undeveloped or
developing lands. In the case of a fully-developed PUD, the responsibility is held by
the owners (governing associations) of the common lands.
Proposed Changes:
. Page 94, third line (from the top) - capitalize Board of County Commissioners
George Hermanson moved to recommend approval of the Amendment andforward
the recommendation to the Board of County Commissioners for review. Second by
Dalas Disney. Carried unanimously, 9-0.
Section 10.03.05 - Notice Requirements for Public Hearings
Purpose: To add public notice and advertising requirements for Conditional Use
Extensions ("CUE")
Discussion ensued. Consensus: additional information is required. The amendment
will be returned to the LDR Subcommittee for further review.
BREAK: 2:55 PM
RECONVENED: 3:05 PM
Chairman Varian stated Judy Puig obtained the "Advisory Committee Outstanding
Member Nomination" form regarding recognizing Charley Abbott's service.
Consensus: Chairman Varian will complete the form and submit it to the Board of
County Commissioners for approval.
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VI. Staff Announcements/Updates
A. Public Utilities Division Update - Phil Gramatges
. No report
B. Fire Review Update - Ed Riley
. 536 reviews were conducted (refer to submitted monthly report)
. A copy of a memo, dated September 20, 2009, concerning (Chapter 43)
entitled "Existing Building Rehabilitation Code Compliance Guidelines" was
distributed to the members.
C. Transportation Division Update - Nick Casalanguida
. Mining Impact Fees Study will be presented to the BCC on October 27,2009
. Projected construction date for the Vanderbilt Drive bridge is November, 2009
D. CDES Update - Joe Schmitt
. 5-day work week has returned
. Fiscal Year 2009-2010 has begun
VII. Old Business
A. Parks & Recreation Impact Fee Study Update - Amy Patterson
. Study will be presented to the BCC on October 27,2009
In response to questions asked during the September meeting regarding how preserve
areas were considered in the Fee Impact Study, Amy Patterson stated preserve areas
were removed from the inventory, i.e., if a preserve area was not accessible to the
public, it was not valued. For example, only 25 of Freedom Park's 50 acres were
counted in the study.
Facilities Inventory:
. Fun-N-Sun Lagoon has $54M of debt service and was not counted as part of
the Impact Fee calculation
Ms. Patterson stated the population figure was compiled in 2008 by the
Comprehensive Planning Department.
Discussion ensued concerning the disparity in land cost projections for regional parks
versus community parks. All values were checked against data from the Property
Appraiser's Office. The difference is because regional parks are passive while
community parks are intensively used.
In response to a question concerning why beaches were not included, Ms. Patterson
stated any land that was either State or Federally owned could not be included.
She further stated staffs position was to accept the study as prepared, but the
Productivity Committee has recommended an additional decrease of 12% for
community parks and 18% for regional parks.
Robert Mulhere moved/or DSAC to:
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. support the Productivity Committee's recommendation for further
reductions for community and regional parks;
. suggest to the Board of County Commissions to direct the Consultant(s) to
further review the anomalies associated with the differential land costs and
improvement costs for regional and community parks;
. recommend to the Board of County Commissioners to consider reducing the
Level of Service in recognition of the State and/or Federally owned
recreational facilities which cannot be counted in the inventory;
. recommend to the Board of County Commissioners to consider an adjustment
related to the excessive costs for specific anomalies, i.e., Sun-N-Fun Lagoon
and the parking garage.
Second by George Hermanson. Carried unanimously, 9-0.
VIII. New Business
A. CDES Fee Schedule - Gary Mullee and Phil Gonot, PMG Associates
. A copy of the Contractor Licensing Fee Schedule Study was distributed to the
members
o Fees were approximately 10% less than originally proposed
o Fee Schedule was approved by the Contractor Licensing Board on
on September 16, 2009
. A copy ofthe Building Permit Fee Analysis was distributed to the members
o Fees were split into two components: Review fees and inspection fees
. Performance standards and time-lines were discussed with the subcommittee
(5 day turn-around time for new residential construction and 15 day turn-
round time for new commercial construction)
. Review fees (50%) will be refunded iftime-lines are not met by the County
(Blair Foley left at 4:00 PM)
. Additional documents were distributed to the members: a draft of the
Executive Summary and a comparison of fee schedule (current vs. proposed)
Discussion ensued concerning the fee comparison summary, suggested cap of
reserves for Fund 113, possible hiring of additional inspectors, debt service, fleet
vehicles, multiple inspection rates, and records storage fees.
Joe Schmitt stated the Building Department must maintain all records related to the
issuance of building permits pursuant to Florida Statutes. More information is being
obtained, including an opinion from the County Attorney.
A question was asked concerning the ratio of correction letters to permits.
Gary Mullee stated he will research the issue and return with information after the
new performance standards become effective.
Concern was expressed by a member regarding the lack of advance notice to review
the documents presented, and back-up data was requested.
Robert Mulhere moved to recommend approval of the Contractor Licensing Fee
Schedule, the Building Permit Fee Analysis, and subsequent staffrecommendations
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for fee adjustments, subject to one additional Building Subcommiuee Meeting, and
any mutually agreeable recommendations from said Subcommiuee Meeting. Second
by Reed Jarvi. Carried unanimously, 8-0.
IX. Committee Member Comments
Chairman Varian noted Reid Schermer has been absent for more than two consecutive
DSAC Meetings. Previously, the committee sent a registered letter to a member's home
address explaining his/her position was in jeopardy and requesting a response
concerning continued membership.
Judy Puig was asked to send a notification letter to Mr. Schermer.
Chairman Varian also noted the passing of Charley Abbott created a vacancy on the
committee. The procedure is to send a letter informing the Board of County
Commissioners of the vacancy and requesting initiation of the appointment process.
Robert Mulhere moved to recommend that Chairman Varian send a leuer to the Board
of County Commissioners informing the BCC of the vacancy and requesting
implementation of the appointment process. Second by Dalas Disney. Carried
unanimously, 8-0.
Next Meetinl!s:
LDR Subcommittee - October 21, 2009 at 2:00 PM
Full DSAC Committee - November 4,2009 at 1:00 PM
December 2, 2009 at 3:00 PM
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There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was adjourned by
order of the Chairman at 5:15 PM.
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES
ADVISORY COMMITTEE
William Varian, Chairman
The Minutes were approved by the Board/Committee on
as presented or as amended
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