DSAC Minutes 06/03/2009 R
June 3, 2009
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Naples, Florida, June 3, 2009
LET IT BE REMEMBERED that the Collier County Development Services
Advisory Committee, in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business
therein, met on this date at 3:00 P.M. in REGULAR SESSION in Conference
Room #610 in the Collier County Community Development and Environmental
Services Center, 2800 N. Horseshoe Drive, Naples, Florida, with the following
Members present:
CHAIRMAN:
Vice Chair:
William Varian
Thomas Masters
Charles Abbott
James Boughton
Clay Brooker
Laura Spurgeon Dejohn
Dalas Disney
David Dunnavant
Marco Espinar
Blair Foley
George Hermanson
Reed Jarvi
Robert Mulhere
Reid Schermer
Mario Valle
ALSO PRESENT: Joe Schmitt, Administrator, CDES
Judy Puig, Operations Analyst, CDES - Staff Liaison
Bob Dunn, Director, Building Review and Permitting
Nick Casalanguida, Director, Transportation and Planning
Phil Gramatges, Interim Director, Public Utilities Division
Gary Mullee, Operations Support Mgr, Bus. Mgmt. & Budget
Ed Riley, Fire Code Official
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE
AGENDA
June 3, 2009
3:00 p.m.
Conference Room 610
NOTICE:
Persons wishing to speak on any Agenda item will receive up to three (3) minutes unless the Chairman adjusts
the time. Speakers are required to fill out a "Speaker Request Form," list the topic they wish to address, and
hand it to the Staff member seated at the table before the meeting begins. Please wait to be recognized by the
Chairman, and speak into a microphone. State your name and affiliation before commenting. During
discussion, Committee Members may direct questions to the speaker.
Please silence cell phones and digital devices. There may not be a break in this meeting. Please leave the room
to conduct any personal business. All parties participating in the public meeting are to observe Roberts Rules
of Order, and wait to be recognized by the Chairman. Please speak one at a time and into the microphone so the
Hearing Reporter can record all statements being made.
I. Call to Order - Chairman
II. Approval of Agenda
III. Approval of Minutes from May 6,2009 Meeting
IV. Public Speakers
V. Staff Announcements/Updates
A. Public Utilities Division Update - Phil Gramatges
B. Fire Review Update - Ed Riley
C. Transportation Division Update - Nick Casalanguida
D. CDES Update - Joe Schmitt
VI. Old Business
A. Overview of the FY2010 proposed budget - Gary Mullee
B. LDC requirements on AlC unit locations - Bill Varian
VII. New Business
A. 4-Day/32 hour work week - Joe Schmitt
VIII. Committee Member Comments
IX. Adjourn
Next Meetin" Dates
July 1, 2009 CDES Conference Room 610 - 3:00 pm
November 4,2009 CDES Conference Room 610 - 3:00 pm
December 2,2009 CDES Conference Room 610 - 3:00 pm
June 3, 2009
I. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 3 :05 PM by Chairman William Varian and a
quorum was established.
Chairman Varian read the procedures to be followed during the Meeting.
II. Approval of Agenda
Marco Espinar moved to approve the Agenda as submitted. Second by Blair Foley.
Carried unanimously, 12-0.
III. Approval of Minutes - May 6, 2009 Meeting
Chairman Varian asked for clarification regarding a statement on Page 5:
"It was noted that Fund #113 has overpaid to Fund #131
for a number of years prior to 2003. "
Dalas Disney stated Fund #113 had been established prior to 2003 and, either by Statute
or Florida Building Code, was to operate to fund itself, and was funding itself plus the
entity prior to Fund #131 - Zoning and Planning - before being separated out into two
Funds.
The statement was amended to read as follows: "It was noted that Fund #113 had paid
for services that are currently Fund #131 for a number of years prior to 2003. "
On Page 7, questions asked of Robert Wiley were clarified:
· Would the Ordinance provide increased points for the FEMA classification?
Mr. Wiley's answer was "none."
· What cost reduction to homeowners' flood insurance would occur if the Ordinance
was implemented?
Mr. Wiley's answer was "zero dollars" in savings.
Thomas Masters moved to approve the Minutes of the May 6, 2009 Meeting as amended.
Second by Reed Jarvi. Carried unanimously, 12-0.
IV. Public Speakers
(None)
V. Staff Announcements/Updates
A. Public Utilities Division Update - Phil Gramatges
Mr. Gramatges stated the proposed Budget for Public Utilities has been reviewed by
a Subcommittee of the Productivity Committee. The Budget reflects a marked
decrease in Capital Improvements for FY 2010. In 2008, the Budget was $88M and
for 2010, it will be less than $30M. There are no big growth projects being built.
The only repair/replacement projects are slated.
When asked if pressure has been reduced during the evenings, Mr. Gramatges stated
discharge at high service pumps has not been reduced because capacity is more than
sufficient. Pressure is being maintained between 85 - 90 psi.
(Charles Abbott arrived - 3:14 PM)
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B. Fire Review Update - Ed Riley, Fire Code Official
Mr. Riley stated his report indicated a slight increase in reviews over the previous
month. He has not heard anything further from Lee County concerning conducting
reviews for the Lee County Fire Districts.
Chairman Varian asked about fire sprinkler reviews.
Mr. Riley stated there are Subcommittees for the Sprinkler and Alarm Contractors.
The Subcommittees have been working on ways to increase first-submission approval
ratings and also have been gathering data for future classes. Information has been
published in the newsletters.
Regarding Chapter 43' s form requiring a survey from an AHJ ("Authority Having
Jurisdiction"), Mr. Riley stated buildings must comply with existing Fire Code(s)
before applying the segments in Chapter 43. Some buildings have been inspected in
several years. Chapter 43 permits Contractor/ Architect/Engineer to submit drawings
and a detailed Scope of the Work in order to determine what is required to bring the
building into compliance. He further stated Chapter 43 was enacted to reduce or
relax some of the requirements previously applied to new renovation work.
Chapter 43 of the Florida Fire Prevention Code was adopted January 1,2009.
There is a PowerPoint presentation on the Collier County Fire Code Official's
website specifically explaining Chapter 43.
(Marco Valle arrived - 3:21 PM)
C. Transportation Division Update - Nick Casalanguida
· Mining Impact Fee Update - the fee was reduced and is less than Lee
County's Fee. The Productivity Committee recommended adoption of the
Study and it will be presented to the Board of County Commissioners.
· The I-75/Immokalee Interchange MOA ("Memorandum of Agreement") with
the DOT was presented to the Board of County Commissioners and adopted
· A public meeting regarding the I-75/Everglades IJR ("Interchange
Justification Report") will be held on June 3, 2009 at 7:00 PM
A problem concerning a delay in a call back for a Right-of-Way inspection was
mentioned.
Mr. Casalanguida stated the Department's policy is to return all calls on the day
received if at all possible.
A question was asked concerning Senate Bill 360 ("Community Renewal Act ").
Nick Casalanguida stated the concurrency issue will not be a problem for the
County, but if the Mobility Fee is adopted next year, it may hurt the County.
A question was asked about House Bill 227 concerning Impact Fees.
Joe Schmitt stated the County's Impact Fees studies are based on legally defensible
analysis. The Bill requires the County to prove to an Applicant that a contested
Impact Fee is valid. The standard appeal process will be followed. The burden is
now on the County ("government") to prove that the Impact Fees were not suspect.
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Bill 360 also extends Building Permits for two years only if the developer applies for
the extension.
D. CDES Update - Joe Schmitt, Administrator
Mr. Schmitt had no report but would answer questions.
A question was asked about an RFQ ("Request for Quote '') for a Building Permit Fee
Study.
Joe Schmitt stated the Study has begun and data will be collected starting the
following week. It is expected that the Study will be completed by September, 2009.
Tindale-Oliver is already conducting a Study of the Zoning Review/SDP Review
fees.
Chairman Varian requested to include either a member ofDSAC or CBIA ("Collier
Building Industry Association") on the Committee that will review the Study reports.
Joe Schmitt stated he will send information regarding meetings to both Chairman
Varian and CBIA.
A question was asked concerning "collection offees" mentioned in Mr. Schmitt's
weekly memo.
. Re: Open Permits
The policy has been to collect fees when the Certificate of Occupancy is
applied for by a developer. Some commercial permits have never been called
in for a C/O and contractors were "flagged." They were not allowed to pull
another permit until the fees were paid.
Mr. Schmitt stated most of the fees have been collected.
VI. Old Business
A. Overview of the FY 2010 Proposed Budget - Gary Mullee
· Re: General Fund #001 and Fund #111: The evaluation data received from
the Property Assessor was different than anticipated and the Budget is being
revised. A copy of the document will be sent via email to the Committee
members by next week.
· Overall Divisional Budget will remain at 25% less
· To remain Millage neutral, 15 positions may be cut from CDES in Compo
Planning and Code Enforcement
· The Productivity Committee will review the General Fund portion of the
Budget and may recommend augmenting funding for Code Enforcement
· Re: Fund #113 and Fund #131, reserves are being used to meet payroll
B. LDC Requirements on A/C Unit Locations - Chairman Varian
Staff had asked for guidance from DSAC concerning the additional cost to relocate
A/C Units either to the back of a house or create an architectural design with an
indentation to avoid encroaching into the side setback
The issue concerns homes with 5 and 712 -foot setbacks.
Consensus: an all-inclusive Ordinance will not be effective.
Joe Schmitt asked for input to determine the cost differential to meet the
requirement.
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(David Dunnavant arrived at 3:45 PM)
Committee's concerns:
· The focus of the proposed Ordinance should be narrowed - where is this a
problem? Is it just in the City of Naples? Where else?
· The cost to redesign a house may be minimal
· If there is a pool, equipment may be stored behind the pool cage, but
(especially in a subdivision) noise will become a factor
· If the equipment is tucked in a recess, circulation around the equipment will
be impaired and result in a decreased operational life of the unit
· There is a limitation of how far the compressor can be located from the unit-
they work more economically when located next to the house
Joe Schmitt stated the proposed Ordinance will be part of the LDC Cycle and will be
reviewed by the Committee.
VII. New Business
A. 4-Day/32-Hours Work Week - Joe Schmitt
· Effective June 12,2009, the CDES offices will be closed on Fridays
· Some staff (non-131 and 113 funded) may work on backlog of permits in
Zoning
· Will save approximately $5,000 a month in Utilities costs
· To obtain a time-specific inspection on Friday, a request must be called in by
12:00 Noon on Thursday and the charge will be a minimum of$220
There was a discussion concerning why allocations were so high in the past. The old
allocation system was based on the Nexxus system.
It was suggested the Building Department's review process should be examined from
an efficiency standpoint. How can the County make the biggest impact in the shortest
amount of time?
Joe Schmitt stated he has been examining process review for the past five years.
The Tindale-Oliver study is concerned with time analysis to determine if the fees
charged are commensurate with the service that is provided.
He further stated he asked each of his directors to give him a minimum of three areas
where costs can be cut. He suggested eliminating one of the Advisory Committees to
the Board of County Commissioners as a cost-cutting measure, but the Board chose to
keep the Committee in operation.
Chairman Varian outlined allocations from Fund # 113 and Fund # 131 :
· In 2007 and 2008 - $3M;
. In 2009 - $2.8M
· In 2010 - anticipated budget is $1.1 M
Chairman Varian suggested a fee that could be increased is the licensing fee
charged for State-certified general contractors to register in Collier County.
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Public Speaker:
Thomas Lykos, Vice Chair of the County's Licensing Board, stated the Licensing
Department should be maintained as a fully staffed operation:
· Even if the CDES building is closed on Fridays, Investigators can still work
in the field using laptops
. The Licensing Department generates revenue for CDES
· Contractors pay fees to the County and part of the fees is to pay for protection
against unlicensed activity
· He supports raising licensing fees for State-certified Contractors and suggests
an increase should be implemented as soon as possible
. There has been a substantial increase of unlicensed activity in Collier County
- Citations have increased (4x) over the past year
· A recent problem is that licensed contractors are not pulling permits to avoid costs
. The Licensing Department's workload has increased and is anticipated to
Increase
Joe Schmitt stated the Licensing Department generates approximately $500,000 per year
in revenue, but the operational cost is approximately $650,000, so the Department
operates at a net loss.
A suggestion was made to give some staff members off on Monday instead of Friday to
provide coverage.
Mr. Schmitt stated the hotline that was installed to report unlicensed activity has not
received any calls.
It was suggested the short-fall could be made up by charging Contractors a fee of$75.00
every two years, instead of the current $10.00 fee.
(Robert Mulhere and Blair Foley left at 4:30 PM)
VIII. Committee Member Comments
(None)
Next Meetin1!: July 1, 2009 at 3:00 PM
DSAC Meeting Dates: August 5, 2009 - 1 :00 PM
September 2, 2009 -1:00 PM
October 7, 2009 -1:00 PM
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There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was adjourned by
order of the Chairman at 4:40 PM.
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES
ADVISORY COMMITTEE
William Varian, Chairman
The Minutes were approved by the Board/Committee on
as presented , or as amended
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