BCC Minutes 04/16/1996 R REGULAR MEETING OF APRIL 16, 1996,
OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COHMISSIONERS
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County Commissioners in
and for the County of Collier, and also acting as the Board of Zoning
Appeals and as the governing board(s) of such special districts as
have been created according to law and having conducted business
herein, met on this date at 9:05 a.m. in REGULAR SESSION in Building
"F" of the Government Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the
following members present:
CHAIRPERSON: John C. Norris
VICE-CHAIRMAN: Timothy L. Hancock
Timothy J. Constantine
Pamela S. Hac'Kie
Bettye J. Matthews
ALSO PRESENT: Neil Dorrill, County Manager
David Weigel, County Attorney
Item #3 & 3A
AGENDA AND CONSENT AGENDA - APPROVED AND/OR ADOOPTED WITH CHANGES
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Call the meeting to order on the 16th of
April, 1996.
Mr. Dotrill, could you lead us in an invocation and a pledge to
the flag, please.
MR. DORRILL: Heavenly Father, we thank you today as we
do always for the wonder that we have to live in the United States of
America and especially here in Collier County. We thank you for the
blessings that you have bestowed on this community and its people.
As always, today, Father, and especially today as we
discuss important business affairs that affect Collier County, it's
our prayer that you would guide the hand and decision and thought
process of this county commission today as they make these important
recommendations and direction.
We thank you for the dedication of the board staff and
all county employees and especially those people who do choose to
participate in the governmental process here in Collier County.
Father, we thank you for your saving and wonderful
grace, and we give praise to you this morning. We'd ask you that you
bless our time here together, and we pray these things and Jesus'
name. Amen.
(The pledge of allegiance was recited in unison.)
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: I see we have a few changes to our
agenda, Mr. Dotrill?
COHMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: Our mammoth agenda.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Our mammoth agenda.
MR. DORRILL: Yes, sir. The -- the world record for the
shortest regular meeting is 9:17, and -- and it would appear that --
that Mr. Olliff and other members of the utilities staff are trying to
mess that up this morning. I have two add-on items.
The first one is the reapproval of a authorization the
board previously granted for the purchase of a warehouse for the waste
water collection section. Your general conditions require that any
soils or environmental contamination in excess of $10,000 result in
the voiding of the sale of that contract. And the environmental
impact survey did show some contamination.
That contamination has been cleaned up at the owner's
expense and has been certified as contamination free now by DEP, and
the staff has prepared an executive summary to ask the reauthorization
of that this morning. That will be 8(B)(1) under public works.
The other add-on item is under public services. It's
8(C)(1). This is a recommendation on a project we've been working on
for some time to authorize the staff to enter into an agreement with
St. John Neumann High School and to swap them some used athletic ball
field lighting that is being replaced, but we're going to relocate
those lights to St. John Neumann High School in return for having
access to a very much needed regulation softball field in Golden Gate
city. That will be 8(C)(1).
The -- we had indicated last week that there is a -- an
informational workshop that would be heard at the conclusion of the
regular agenda today as part of the clerk's report as it pertains to
the annual financial reports. And that's all that I have, Mr.
Chairman.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Okay. Mr. Weigel?
MR. WEIGEL: Nothing additional. Thank you.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Uh-huh. Commissioner Matthews?
COHMISSIONER MATTHEWS: Nothing. Thank you.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Commissioner Hancock.
COHMISSIONER HANCOCK: No, sir.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Hac'Kie?
COHMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Nothing. Thank you.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: And Constantine.
COHMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: Mr. Chairman, I have no
changes, and I'll make a motion we approve the agenda and consent
agenda as amended.
COHMISSIONER HANCOCK: Second.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: We have a motion and a second. All
those in favor signify by saying aye.
And opposed?
Item #4
MINUTES OF MARCH 26, 1996 REGULAR MEETING - APPROVED AS PRESENTED
We have minutes.
COHMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: Motion to approve the minutes
of March 26, 1996, regular meeting.
COHMISSIONER HANCOCK: Second.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: We have a motion and a second. All
those in favor signify by saying aye.
Opposed?
We have none.
Item #5A1
PROCLAMATION DESIGNATING APRIL 20, 1996, AS BAY DAY - THE OFFICIAL DAY
OF THE BAY DAYS WATERWAY CLEANUP - ADOPTED
Proclamations, Commissioner Hancock.
COHMISSIONER HANCOCK: Yes. It's my pleasure today to
read the proclamation designating bay day, and I believe Ellie Krier
is here to accept. Ellie, if I could ask you to come on up and stand
here to my left and face our small but important audience today. MS. KRIER: It is small, isn't it?
COHMISSIONER HANCOCK: Whereas, the waterways of Collier
County are vital to the quality of life of all residents and visitors
to Collier County; and
Whereas, the future growth of Collier County and its
appeal to tourists depends on maintaining clean and pollution-free
waterways; and
Whereas, the Naples Area Chamber of Commerce and the
Marine Industries Association of Collier County are jointly sponsoring
bay day which is an annual undertaking by concerned citizens and
organizations to clean the surrounding waterways from North Naples to
Marco Island; and
Whereas, bay day is scheduled for Saturday, April 20,
1996, to occur during earth week, the internationally recognized week
for cleaning the environment and acknowledging and emphasizing the
importance of a pollution-free world; and
Whereas, it is appropriate that we recognize the bay day
sponsors and volunteers in their continuing efforts to clean up the
area waterways.
Now, therefore, be it proclaimed by the Board of County
Commissioners of Collier County, Florida, the day of April 20, 1996,
be designated as bay day, the official day of the bay -- bay days
waterway clean-up.
Done and ordered this 16th day of April, 1996, John C.
Norris, Chairman.
Mr. Chairman, I would like to move approval of this
proclamation.
COHMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Second.
COHMISSIONER MATTHEWS: Second.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: We have a motion and a number of
seconds. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
And opposed?
Item #5A2
PROCLAivLATION DESIGNATING THE WEEK OF APRIL 15-21, 1996 AS CIVIL AIR
PATROL WEEK AND SUNDAY, APRIL 21, 1996, AS NAPLES AVIATION SUNDAY -
ADOPTED
COMMISSIONER HANCOCK: Still got that Bob Dole thing
going down there.
COMMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: No. I hurt it in Tallahassee
last week.
COMHISSIONER MATTHEWS: Sticking with the Dole
handshake, huh?
MS. KRIER: Good morning. For the record, I'm Ellie
Krier representing Mr. Alan Reynolds this morning. And all I want to
do is extend the thanks of the Naples Area Chamber of Commerce for
your continued support.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Thank you.
Our next proclamation is Naples aviation Sunday.
Colonel Jack Kern and Herb Anderson, if you gentlemen would come up
and face the folks, please, I'll read your proclamation.
Whereas, the men and women of the Civil Air Patrol,
civilian auxiliary of the United States Air Force, has since its
inception worked devotedly in the cause of aviation and on behalf of
the people of this nation; and
Whereas, the patriotic civilian volunteers making up
this organization have given unstintingly of their personal resources
and even of their lives in the relief of suffering and in the
safeguarding of the lives and property of their fellow Americans
through the performance of air and ground search and rescue, mercy
missions, and disaster relief; and
Whereas, these same civilian volunteers have established
and have dedicated themselves to maintaining an effective national
program of aerospace education and training for our youth; and
Whereas, on December 1, 1941, 6 days before Pearl
Harbor, the national organization of the Civil Air Patrol was formed,
and the Naples Senior Squadron was formed in 1952 dedicated to the
services of humanity.
Now, therefore, be it proclaimed by the Board of County
Commissioners of Collier County, Florida, that the week of April 15 to
the 21st, 1996, be designated as Civil Air Patrol week and Sunday,
April 21, 1996, be designated as Naples aviation Sunday and urge all
citizens to celebrate with the senior and cadet squadrons by attending
their open house at the Hayes hangar at Naples Airport on Sunday,
April 21, from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m.
Done and ordered this 16th day of April, 1996, by the
Board of County Commissioners of Collier County, Florida.
I would like to make a motion that we accept this
proclamation.
COMHISSIONER CONSTANTINE: I'd be willing to second that
motion.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: We have a motion and a second. All
those in favor signify by saying aye.
And opposed?
That is accepted. Thank you, gentlemen.
COMHISSIONER MATTHEWS: Thank you.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: If you'd like to say a few words,
please use that podium right there.
MR. KERN: And I'd like to shake your hand. Maybe
you'll be a cadet some day.
Ladies and gentlemen, I want to thank all of you for
this honor. We're out there doing our job, and we appreciate
everything that the people do in this area. And we want to -- we want
to do whatever we can to help. Thank you very much.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Thank you.
Item #5B
EMPLOYEE SERVICE AWARDS - PRESENTED
We'll move to service awards. Commissioner Matthews.
COHMISSIONER MATTHEWS: Yes. Today we have -- looks
like four, possibly five service awards. And I would like to first
ask Mr. David Lime who has ten years with parks and recreation to come
forward. We have a certificate and a ten-year pin. And I
congratulate you.
COHMISSIONER HANCOCK: Thanks, David.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Good work.
COHMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: Thanks.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER MATTHEWS: Next we have two 15-year pins
from EMS. Mark E. Willis. Thank you very much, Mark. Certificate
and the pin.
COMMISSIONER HANCOCK: Thanks, Mark.
COMMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: Thanks.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER MATTHEWS: And Martha Ginter, 15 years with
EMS. Thank you very much.
MS. GINTER: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER MATTHEWS: Certificate and your pin.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Thanks, Martha.
MR. DORRILL: Mr. Chairman, 15 years ago Marti was the
first secretary EMS ever had, and she liked it so much that she became
a paramedic and one of our absolute very best.
COMMISSIONER HANCOCK: See, Miss Filson, there's hope.
COMMISSIONER MATTHEWS: We have an add-on to the agenda,
and that's David Kitchen, 15 years, EMS who couldn't be with us last
week and is going to be with us this week, and we're happy to have
him.
COHHISSIONER MATTHEWS: Here's your certificate and pin,
and thanks so much for your work. MR. DORRILL: Well done.
COHMISSIONER HANCOCK: Which district does Miss Filson
live in?
COHMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: That's mine. I better watch
out come July.
Item #5C
PRESENTATION BY REPRESENTATIVE BURT L. SAUNDERS' OFFICE OF $130,000 TO
COLLIER COUNTY FOR LIBRARY SYSTEM FROM SECRETARY OF STATE SANDRA
MORTHAM
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Okay. Let's see. Item 5(C) is a
presentation of some money to the Board of County Commissioners.
COHMISSIONER HANCOCK: We like that.
MS. BROWN: Good morning. My name is Donna Brown. I
work with State Representative Butt Saunders. And the reason I'm here
today, he's up in Tallahassee as you know. And I'm here to present to
you a check in the amount of $133,959 from Secretary of State Sandra
Mortham for the Collier County Public Library system.
COHMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap,
clap.
COHHISSIONER HAC'KIE: Thank you.
MS. BROWN: You're welcome.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Thanks, Donna.
COHMISSIONER MATTHEWS: Thank you, Donna.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: We appreciate the help of
Representative Saunders and, of course, our Secretary of State, Sandra
Mortham. We did this last year as well, and we're certainly glad to
have this grant for our library system. Thank you very much.
MS. BROWN: And I'm sure there's going to be more
according to that -- the letter enclosed.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: More would be good.
COHMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: Pay to the order of John
Norris. Wait a minute.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Let's see if we can forward this
over to --
MR. DORRILL: Your library director's here.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: -- our library director. Perhaps
he would even like to step forward and elect it personally.
COHMISSIONER HANCOCK: And look at it briefly. Think
you have anywhere to put that money, Jones?
MR. JONES: I've got it spent already.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: See if you can spend that for us.
COHMISSIONER MATTHEWS: You spent it before we got it?
You spent that before we got it?
MR. JONES: Absolutely. It's good business. It's good
business here anyway.
Item #SB1
PURCHASE AGREEMENT FOR THE WAREHOUSE FOR WASTEWATER COLLECTIONS -
APPROVED
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Okay. We'll move on to 8(B)(1).
This is concerning the wastewater warehouse. Mr. Dotrill, is this the
same warehouse that's up on -- in the Naples Production Park? MR. DORRILL: Yes, it is.
COHMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: Just to ratify something
we've already --
MR. DORRILL: Previously authorized, but it gets you to
acknowledge there was environmental issue. It has been certified by
the state to be clean, and we'd like your reapproval.
COHMISSIONER HANCOCK: Move approval.
COHMISSIONER MATTHEWS: Second.
COHMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: At least --
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: We have a motion and a second. All
those in favor signify by saying aye.
Opposed?
COHMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: At least one relieved member
of the audience.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Thank you.
Item #8C1
AGREEMENT PROVIDING SURPLUS ATHLETIC FIELD LIGHTS TO ST. JOHN NEUMANN
HIGH SCHOOL IN RETURN FOR USE OF A NEWLY-CONSTRUCTED SOFTBALL FIELD -
APPROVED
Our next item is 8(C)(1) concerning ball field lights
and an agreement with St. John Neumann.
MR. OLLIFF: Yes, sir. Good morning. For the record,
Tom Olliff, your public services administrator. This is an agreement
where the -- the county parks and recreation department would like to
transfer some lights that were removed from the Shadowlawn softball
field. That softball field was eliminated as a result of an expansion
there at the school where there's not enough property anymore for a
softball field.
The lights are -- are nearly 20 years old and generally
would not be used anywhere else in the county system. St. John
Neumann has made a request for those lights for a brand new softball
field that they have constructed.
The reason it was an add-on this morning is they have
the opportunity to host a district tournament if they have lights at
that facility. In return for the lights that we estimate a value of
about $10,000, the county in return gets use of the softball field for
any of the times when it's not being used by the high school.
So for us, a new softball field generally costs us
somewhere in the neighborhood of $250,000 to construct, and we can
have access to this one for a good deal of the time because the only
organized team that they have is a girls' high school softball team.
So it will allow us a good deal of access, and it's in a good location
for us in the Golden Gate city community.
COMHISSIONER HANCOCK: So in a nutshell, lights we
weren't going to use anyway end up resulting in us getting the use of
an additional softball field for inventory. MR. OLLIFF: Yes, sir.
COMHISSIONER HANCOCK: Sounds like a winner to me.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: And it helps St. John Neumann.
COMHISSIONER MATTHEWS: And it helps --
COMHISSIONER HANCOCK: Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. Looking
at it from the selfish perspective.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Any questions from the board?
COMHISSIONER CONSTANTINE: I'd like to make a motion we
approve 8 (C) (1) .
COMHISSIONER HANCOCK: Second.
COMHISSIONER MATTHEWS: I'd second.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: We have a motion and a second. All
those in favor signify by saying aye.
Opposed?
There are none.
Item #10A
RESOLUTION 96-198 APPOINTING MICHAEL DAVIS TO THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL
SERVICES ADVISORY COHMITTEE - ADOPTED
We'll move on to 10(A), appointment of member to the
Emergency Medical Services Advisory Committee.
COHMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: I'm going to go out on a limb
here and suggest we appoint Mike Davis. CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Okay.
COHMISSIONER HANCOCK: After reviewing them carefully,
I'll second the motion.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: We have a motion and a second. All
those in favor signify by saying aye.
Opposed?
Item #10B
RESOLUTION 96-199 APPOINTING HIREYA LOUVIERE TO THE HISPANIC AFFAIRS
ADVISORY BOARD - ADOPTED
Our next item is 10(B), appointment of member to the
Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board.
COHMISSIONER MATTHEWS: This is one that's equally out
on a limb.
COHMISSIONER HANCOCK: Second.
COHMISSIONER MATTHEWS: We have one applicant and one
position, and I move me -- that we appoint Hireya Louviere.
COHMISSIONER HANCOCK: Second.
COHMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: We're a minute behind.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: We have a motion and a second. All
those in favor signify by saying aye.
Opposed?
There are none.
Item #15(2)
BUDGET CUTS - TO BE PUT ON REGULAR AGENDA ON APRIL 23, 1996
And we will now move to --
COHMISSIONER MATTHEWS: 9:19.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Is there any public comments
today?
MR. DORRILL: No, sir, I don't have any.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: No public comments? Then we'll go
to Board of County Commissioners communication. This would be a good
time to, I guess, talk about our list of budget cuts. Who would like
to start?
COHMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: I didn't realize we were
doing that today. I have my list in there.
COHMISSIONER MATTHEWS: Mine -- mine is in the office
too. I -- if we could take --
COHMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: Can I make one suggestion, if
we put this on as a regular item for next week for a couple of
reasons? We're also going to have available tomorrow in addition to
the discretionary list we've all gone through the capital items. And
that might be an appropriate item to look at at the same time.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Okay. Well, we did discuss
discussing this today. Last week we discussed discussing it today,
but if -- if we would like to regularly schedule it, that would be
fine as well.
COHMISSIONER HANCOCK: If I recall, last week we talked
about at least having your cuts available. And I think mine are --
second draft is being finalized now. So, you know, I don't think it's
any big secret where anyone's looking, and everyone's going to know
today. And we're probably not going to have meaningful discussion
beyond understanding what areas have consensus of at least three
commissioners.
So if we want to just provide those to each other
sometime during the day today I think we can accomplish that. And I
guess we need to -- to maybe decide how we want to handle if there is
a particular area or a particular reduction that three or more
commissioners favor, is there a discussion point? Is it an automatic
reduction? How do we go about that? And I guess we need to -- since
we haven't really done things this way before --
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Well, that -- that's where we'd
have a discussion next week. If we put it on a regular -- regular
scheduled agenda item, then we could --
COHMISSIONER MATTHEWS: We can discuss it.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: -- we could decide all that.
COHMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Just in a related question, might
we -- might we expect -- I mean, certainly we're going to make our
list, and we're gonna -- we're gonna do the best we can to come up
with some -- some cuts that we think are appropriate.
But as I have talked to people in the community about
this -- this undertaking, people who are -- served on boards of
directors of big companies said, okay, that's fine, but the boards of
directors, you know, the members of the board don't know. You're
supposed to tell your staff. You're supposed to tell the -- the
division heads and the department heads to make some recommendations
from which we choose.
I -- I'm going to make my list. I have a list. It's
not quite to a million dollars. But I'd love to see some -- the same
challenge go out to the division heads and department heads instead of
us doing it on our own.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: If I might respond to that, I think
probably what would be real helpful was -- would be for you to pick a
general area for the staff to look at. I think that's what they're
expecting from us is to say I -- I would like to see the staff come
back with recommendations in department B, whatever that might be.
COHMISSIONER MATTHEWS: Well, that --
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: And rather than the board members
making specific recommendations for specific cuts, it could be done
that way as well.
COHMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: I -- I saw this exercise as
the first step in the process, not the only step. And so I think
you're right. I mean, we're -- we're going to get together next
week. We're not going to find every cut we need that we -- that at
least three agree on next week. We'll find some. Let's see what that
-- what those items are and what direction that sends us in.
But then I think you're absolutely right. From there
the next logical step is to say, okay, staff, gosh, we need to come up
with X number of dollars, and we're not necessarily going to do it a
straight line across the board. There may be higher priorities than
others for us, but I think that's where the discussion will lead next
week. But I think the logical first step in that is to say, gee, this
specific item, this specific item are questionable.
COHMISSIONER HANCOCK: Because I have a couple of areas
that I have amount of reduction unknown because I've set a target for
that department as far as, you know, this level, and the exact dollars
that would be associated with that level I don't know yet.
So, you know, I think it's impossible to take this list
at face value and say everything on it is a specific reduction that I
want because there may be some that with further explanation the
reduction is less or more or -- or significantly changes. But I think
at least it is an identifier. And I'll be hap -- again, I'll make
this available to the rest of you and to the media file today.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Uh-huh. And once again, I -- my
assessment of it is that it can be done actually both ways and very
effectively. One would be to pick a -- a focus that you would like
the staff to return recommendations on, and the other way would be to
pick specific cuts individually as board members. If you want to do
that, that's fine.
And there's no reason why you can't do some of both, one
or the other. Or just as long as there's some areas identified that
give us at least a starting point, that's -- that's where we are.
We're actually -- what we're doing is getting a jump on the budget
sessions. And, you know, whether it's -- whether it's more
generalized or -- or very specific really doesn't matter at this
point.
COHMISSIONER MATTHEWS: Mr. Chairman, I have a comment
on that. Last -- last week we clarified for staff that our 1 percent
was -- was a 1 percent cut in millage as opposed to a 1 percent cut in
the rollback. And, Mr. Dotrill, my question is what effect has -- has
that had on the four million dollars that we might need?
MR. DORRILL: I'm going to ask Mr. Smykowski to help
because he's --
COHMISSIONER HANCOCK: Drum roll, please.
MR. SHYKOWSKI: That would actually have -- that would
reduce it slightly, I believe -- COHMISSIONER MATTHEWS: Uh-huh.
MR. SHYKOWSKI: -- because we were -- we were looking at
$600,000 -- for the record, Michael Smykowski, budget director. I'm
sorry -- a 1 percent reduction below the rollback rate. We levied
approximately 60 million dollars in the general fund. One percent of
that would have been six hundred thousand dollars. Obviously if we
are -- what ultimately that amounts to will be a function of how much
property values go up, et cetera, in determining a 1 percent below
what our adopted millage rate is. But it will be less than the
600,000 that we had originally envisioned.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: And when will the -- when will you
receive from the property appraiser the assessed value?
MR. SHYKOWSKI: June 1 is the preliminary. The final
certified is July 1. So it will be -- it will precede the
presentation of your proposed millages as part of your budget workshop
discussion.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: So the proposals for cuts that we
will make here will be a little premature perhaps, but we can adjust
-- we'll have at least a good basis for adjustment during our budget
sessions in June; is that correct?
MR. SHYKOWSKI: Right. And -- and if there's consensus
at this point that there -- you know, that there's no -- that you're
not going to fund a given program next year, that direction would
actually be appreciated now --
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Uh-huh.
MR. SHYKOWSKI: -- because then -- the departments are
in the process of preparing their budgets now and actually are looking
for that direction at this point in time to the extent that that is
feasible and possible because then we just will not include it in the
tentative budget as opposed to including it and then having to extract
it in June. So any -- any up-front direction you can give us is
helpful.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Thank you.
COHMISSIONER MATTHEWS: Sounds like we're gonna talk
about it next week and -- CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Uh-huh.
COHMISSIONER MATTHEWS: And I -- I'd like to say I've
got a list, and -- and it's -- it's pretty comprehensive, but it's --
it's a list of things that I'm not sure that we should be doing, and
I'm more looking for staff to convince me to continue it. So until
I'm convinced, it's on the hit list you might say. So just because
it's on my list doesn't necessarily mean that I want to cut it out.
It means I want to know more about it.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: That's -- that's what I have always
called justify or die.
COHMISSIONER MATTHEWS: Yeah, uh-huh, justify it. I
wouldn't say die.
COHMISSIONER HANCOCK: Welcome to the terrorism portion
of the budget. Okay. So let's -- let's make these available to each
other and -- and obviously then to the media this week and discuss
them next week as far as -- well, I guess there's not a lot of
discussion to have but as far as giving direction to staff as to which
areas are going to be primary focus that -- that achieve a general
consensus on the board. Is that fair direction?
COHMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: Yeah, and there may be some
clarification. I mean, there are some items on my list that someone
may think, gosh, that's awful. But there may be some rationale --
COHMISSIONER HANCOCK: I would guess all of them
someone's going to think that's awful.
COHMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: Yeah, and I think that will
be important for us to have a discussion and the rationale for
whatever suggested cuts we have.
COHMISSIONER HANCOCK: Agreed.
COHMISSIONER MATTHEWS: Do we have a large agenda next
week?
MR. DORRILL: I don't believe so. It is a public
hearing day next week, and I won't know that until just before noon
tomorrow in terms of what it is.
COHMISSIONER HANCOCK: Nothing outstanding at this
point?
MR. DORRILL: We can make time. We -- just because I
had been asked, there are some other things -- and playing off of what
Ms. Hac'Kie said, the division administrators are also in a good
position to be able to -- as we talk about things that ought to be out
from the very beginning, I know the parks and rec. people have been
I'll say frustrated over on the one hand being given a challenge to
produce an additional what I call layered budget like we did with park
maintenance last year. And we're asking them to produce a -- a
layered budget for park maintenance. But at the same time they're
being told to rush to completion the three new county commission
community parks: One in the estates, one at Lake Avalon, and one in
south Naples.
And so they're a little frustrated by being told cut
your maintenance budget but hurry up and finish these new parks. And
I keep reassuring them that the board will take all that into
consideration and -- and realize that we do have some new expanded
service programs that they're going to see also and that we're not
that schizophrenic.
COHMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: And again, not to confuse it,
it's not strictly we want to see cuts. I mean, obviously we do. But
we want to see the layered levels. What can we expect at a lesser
cost? And then we need to make a judgment as to whether that's
appropriate.
MR. DORRILL: But that you all certainly are going to
take into account expanded services. I mean, if we've got a new park
in the estates, we fully intend to open it next year, and there are
costs attendant to that.
COHMISSIONER HANCOCK: Particularly reminding the board
that -- that parks and rec. was the one area took the single biggest
hit of all departments last year and did so very effectively. And I
personally have told Mr. Olliff that that kind of effort generally,
you know, should be recognized, and this would be the appropriate time
to do it.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Duly recognized, Mr. Olliff. Did a
good job there.
If that's -- that's all settled then, we'll -- board
communications. Is there anything else --
COHMISSIONER MATTHEWS: No, huh-uh.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: -- Commissioner Matthews?
Mr. Hancock?
COHMISSIONER HANCOCK: Just read the title of this
memorandum, Clam Pass is open, exclamation. They finally got the pass
open one day ahead of schedule. Sunday evening it was open. Clean-up
occurs this evening and --
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: How about under budget?
COMMISSIONER MATTHEWS: And we have bad weather coming
in. I'm sorry.
COMMISSIONER HANCOCK: Thank you. I won't sleep
tonight. I appreciate that.
COMMISSIONER MATTHEWS: I'm sorry. I just --
COMMISSIONER HANCOCK: But yeah, I'm going to assume --
there's no mention of budget here, Commissioner Norris, so let me ask
that question, but I believe it was done within parameters.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Okay.
Commissioner Mac'Kie?
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: No. I'm just grateful to have my
trusty assistant, Kristie, here today and welcome her dad who's here.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: I'm not sure we could've gotten
through all this without her help.
COMMISSIONER MAC'KIE: I couldn't have. She's making my
budget cutting list.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Is that right?
Commissioner Constantine?
COMMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: I have nothing today. Thank
you.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Mr. Dotrill.
Item #15(1)
JULY 30TH WORKSHOP - BCC TO ADVISE MANAGER OF TOPICS OF INTEREST TO BE
DISCUSSED
MR. DORRILL: I have two items. We would otherwise next
be scheduled after Lyle Sumek to have a fifth Tuesday workshop in
July, but I had previously been instructed that we're going to kind of
take these on an ad hoc basis. And -- and if the board would be
thinking or determining what, if any, subject you are interested in
for the fifth Tuesday in July, that would occur on the 30th. And if
you'd just give some thought to that because otherwise we --
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: My vote is -- is nyet on that one.
MR. DORRILL: I'm not the least bit surprised, but as I
was told to remind you to --
COMMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: I might echo that sentiment.
Item #15(3)
DISCUSSION REGARDING RED TIDE - INQUIRIES TO BE REFERRED TO THE COUNTY
MANAGER'S OFFICE
MR. DORRILL: -- come back.
The other thing is to advise the board of our -- our
intent just -- we have had a red tide problem within the canal system
on Marco Island. I know that Mr. Conrecode has had crews in
conjunction with Mr. Olliff on at least one occasion picking up dead
fish on the beach at Marco.
But because of the red tide outbreak in -- in Marco
Island, we've been getting some calls. And it's -- it's my intent to
try and monitor those. The canal system is so extensive down there
that I don't want to immediately promise that we're going to pick up
every dead fish in every canal on Marco.
There have been some problem dead-end canals where the
fish pool up. And -- and while they would normally take care of
theirself over the course of about three days, if -- if the board's
office is getting a lot of calls in that regard, if you'd refer those
to our office, we're taking those on a case-by-case basis and
certainly are ready to try and help people down there with our public
works crews. But we -- we just need a little communication there.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Weigel?
MR. WEIGEL: Nothing. Thank you.
CAFR WORKSHOP NOT HELD
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Mr. Dorrill, are we having our CAFR
workshop or not?
MR. DORRILL: You may. I don't know that I was going
to --
COHMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: We're going to take a brief
break first.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Well, I'm not sure we're even
having it. Is anyone here to present it, or what are we doing?
MR. DORRILL: We can ascertain that if you want to just
take a brief recess. My understanding was that they were going to add
it, and then they would be here to answer questions and what not.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Well, why don't we see if any board
members have any specific questions with the CAFR that they want to
workshop on. I don't know that we need to have a workshop if nobody
wants to workshop it. It's a fairly straightforward document as it is
every year.
COHMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: I can't argue with that logic.
COHMISSIONER MATTHEWS: I -- I would --
Item #15(1)
JULY 30TH WORKSHOP - BCC TO ADVISE MANAGER OF TOPICS OF INTEREST TO BE
DISCUSSED
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Speaking of workshops, now on the 30th of
July, I think you -- you heard board consensus that we don't have to
have a workshop there without a subject to workshop.
COHMISSIONER MAC'KIE: Yeah, what's the topic?
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: There is none.
MR. DORRILL: There's not one and -- but --
COHMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: And as a result there's no workshop.
COHMISSIONER HANCOCK: Commissioner Matthews --
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: So what -- are -- are we going to have a
regularly scheduled meeting in lieu of a workshop, or are we not having
a meeting that day?
MR. DORRILL: Typically we would not unless -- unless at some
point you determine that there is a workshop need or that you are
-- you want to come back off your recess and have a meeting on --
COHMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: I thought -- yeah, I thought the
discussion we had a month or so ago when we talked about the fifth
Tuesday is leave them vacant so as workshop topics become necessary we
can use them, but --
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: That's exactly what we said, yes.
COHHISSIONER CONSTANTINE: -- otherwise if we don't have a
workshop, just use it as a standard workday.
COHMISSIONER HAC'KIE: Well, and judging by today's agenda,
there's not whole lot of business, I mean, nothing today we could have
skipped but --
COHMISSIONER CONSTANTINE: Yeah.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Uh-huh.
COHMISSIONER MATTHEWS: You know, the -- Commissioner Hancock has
been working on a really serious problem at Clam Bay. And hopefully
the experts who've been studying that over the next 30 days -- I don't
know. He'll have to tell us what the schedule is, but it seems to me
that by the end of July we may very well have an excellent timeline and
program that may be something that we really need to look at in depth
more so than just a regular Tuesday meeting.
And I -- I would tend to think that that would be a -- a good time
to -- to spend three hours just looking at the -- the Clam Bay problem
and what it is that the experts tell us is ahead for it.
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: Well, I -- I think what the board has -- has
determined here is that if -- if there is a subject that we need to
workshop between now and then we have that date available. If there's
no topic, there's certainly no sense in having a workshop. So we will
leave that date available. In case some topic comes up --
COHMISSIONER HANCOCK: And -- and --
CHAIRPERSON NORRIS: -- we'll -- we'll be able to do it. Until
then, we're adjourned.
***** Commissioner Constantine moved, seconded by Commissioner Hancock
and carried unanimously, that the following items under the
Consent Agenda be approved and/or adopted: *****
Item #16A1
WATER FACILITIES ACCEPTANCE FOR REMINGTON AT BAY COLONY - WITH
STIPULATIONS AND CASH BOND
Item #16A2
RESOLUTION 96-197 AUTHORIZING A 100% WAIVER OF ROAD, LIBRARY SYSTEM,
PARKS AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES SYSTEM,
AND EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES SYSTEM IMPACT FEES FOR A THREE BEDROOM HOUSE
TO BE BUILT BY KAORI KATO AT 360 EVERGLADES BOULEVARD SOUTH WITH IMPACT
FEES BEING PAID FROM AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND - ADOPTED
See Pages
Item #16A3
RECORDING OF THE FINAL PLAT OF "NAPLES HERITAGE GOLF AND COUNTRY CLUB
PHASE ONE" - WITH STIPULATIONS AND LETTER OF CREDIT AND CONSTRUCTION
AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT
See Pages
Item #16B1
QUIT CLAIM DEED TO THE CITY OF NAPLES FOR EXISTING STREETS IN THE NEWLY
ANNEXED AREA GENERALLY KNOWN AS THE WEST BOULEVARD AREA
See Pages
Item #16B2
APPROPRIATE FY95/96 ADDITIONAL CARRY FORWARD RECOGNIZED TO OPERATING
FUND MARCO ISLAND BEAUTIFICATION MSTU DISTRICT FOR SOD REPLACEMENT,
MEDIAN LANDSCAPE REFURBISHMENT AND ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE CONSULTANT
SERVICES
Item #16B3
ADDENDUM I TO THE CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL AGREEMENT WITH FLORIDA
COMMUNITIES TRUST
See Pages
Item #16B4
ACCEPTANCE OF UTILITIES PIPELINE EASEMENT FOR THE INSTALLATION OF
TREATED EFFLUENT PIPELINE, WATER MANAGEMENT MAINTENANCE INGRESS AND
EGRESS AND PEDESTRIAN INGRESS AND EGRESS
See Pages
Item #16B5 deleted
Item #16B6
FORMAL BIDDING PROCEDURES WAIVED FOR RESTORATION OF A HIGHLY ERODED
PORTION OF HIDEAWAY BEACH AND CONTRACT AWARDED TO KEN FITZEK EQUIPMENT,
INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $74,237 TO PERFORM THE WORK
Item #16El
BUDGET AMENDMENT 96-346
Item #16E2
CONTRACT WITH MOUNT IDA COLLECT FOR $200,000, CATEGORY C TOURIST
DEVELOPMENT REVENUES FOR ADVERTISING NAPLES LEADERSHIP CENTER
See Pages
Item #16G1
CERTIFICATES FOR CORRECTION AS PRESENTED BY THE PROPERTY APPRISER
1994 REAL PROPERTY
No. Dated
198-200 03/12/-03/20/96
1995 REAL PROPERTY
No. Dated
Item #16G2
SATISFACTION OF LIENS FOR SERVICES OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDER
See Pages
Item #16G3
MISCELLANEOUS CORRESPONDENCE - FILED ~ND/OR REFERRED
The £ollowing miscellaneous correspondence as presented to the
Board o£ County Commissioners shall be directed to the various
departments as indicated below:
There being no further business for the Good of the County, the
meeting was adjourned by Order of the Chair at 9:37 a.m.
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS/EX
OFFICIO GOVERNING BOARD(S) OF
SPECIAL DISTRICTS UNDER ITS
CONTROL
JOHN C. NORRIS, CHAIRPERSON
ATTEST:
DWIGHT E. BROCK, CLERK
These minutes approved by the Board on
as presented or as corrected
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