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April I, 2009
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Naples, Florida, April 1, 2009
LET IT BE REMEMBERED that the Collier County Development Services
Advisory Committee, in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business
herein, met on this date at 3:00 P.M. in REGULAR SESSION in Conference
Room #610 in the Collier County Community Development and Environmental
Services Center, 2800 N. Horseshoe Drive, Naples, Florida, with the following
members present:
CHAIRMAN: William Varian
Charles Abbott
James Boughton
Clay Brooker
Laura Spurgeon Dejohn
Dalas Disney
David Dunnavant
Marco Espinar
Blair Foley
George Hermanson
Reed Jarvi
Thomas Masters
Robert Mulhere
Reid Schermer (Excused)
Mario Valle
ALSO PRESENT: Joe Schmitt, Administrator, CDES
Judy Puig, Operations Analyst, CDES
Bob Dunn, Director, Building Review and Permitting
Susan Istenes, Director, Zoning & Land Development
Nick Casalanguida, Director, Transportation and Planning
Phil Gramatges, Interim Director, Public Utilities
James French, Operations Manager, Operations Support
Ed Riley, Fire Code Official
Amy Patterson, Impact Fee Manager
Robert Wiley, Principal Project Manager, CDES
Catherine Fabacher, LDC Control Manager
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE
AGENDA
April 1, 2009
3:00 p.m.
Conference Room 610
NOTICE:
Persons wishing to speak on any Agenda item will receive up to three (3) minutes unless the Chairman adjusts
the time. Speakers are required to fill out a "Speaker Request Form," list the topic they wish to address, and
hand it to the Staff member seated at the table before the meeting begins. Please wait to be recognized by the
Chairman, and speak into a microphone. State your name and affiliation before commenting. During
discussion, Committee Members may direct questions to the speaker.
Please silence cell phones and digital devices. There may not be a break in this meeting. Please leave the room
to conduct any personal business. All parties participating in the public meeting are to observe Roberts Rules
of Order, and wait to be recognized by the Chairman. Please speak one at a time and into the microphone so the
Hearing Reporter can record all statements being made.
I. Call to Order - Chairman
II. Approval of Agenda
III. Approval of Minutes from March 4, 2009 Meeting
IV. Public Speakers
V. Staff Announcements/Updates
A. Public Utilities Division Update - Phil Gramatges
B. Fire Review Update - Ed Riley
C. Transportation Division Update - Nick Casalanguida
D. CDES Update - Joe Schmitt
VI. Old Business
A. Review & approval of the Floodplain Management Ordinance - Robert Wiley
VII. New Business
A. Impact Fee study updates presented to the BCC on March 24, 2009 - Joe Schmitt/Amy Patterson
B. Impact Fee indexing - Amy Patterson
C. CityView update - Gary Mullee
D. Initial Discussion of the FY2010 proposed budget - Gary Mullee
E. Proposed fee schedule maintenance - Gary Mullee
VIII. Committee Member Comments
A. Review and approve letter to BCC to give staff direction for redevelopment standards to be included in the
upcoming LDC amendment cycle - (Clay Brooker drafted letter)
IX. Adjourn
Next MeetinQ Dates
May 6, 2009 CDES Conference Room 610 - 3:00 pm
June 3, 2009 CDES Conference Room 610 - 3:00 pm
July 1,2009 CDES Conference Room 610 - 3:00 pm
August 5, 2009 CDES Conference Room 610 - 3:00 pm
April I, 2009
I. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 3:08PM by Chairman William Varian and a
quorum was established.
Chairman Varian read the procedures to be followed during the Meeting.
II. Approval of Agenda
Thomas Masters moved to approve the Agenda. Second by David Dunnavant. Carried
unanimously, 10-0.
III. Approval of Minutes - March 4, 2009 Meeting
Dalas Disney moved to approve the Minutes of the March 4, 2009 Meeting. Second by
Thomas Masters.
Correction:
On Page 4, the first sentence following the Motion will read as follows:
Mr. Schmitt asked for clarification regarding the items listed in the
"Subcommittee's" Minutes of "February 25, 2009."
Dalas Disney amended his motion to reflect the modification of the Minutes. Second
by Thomas Masters. Carried unanimously, 10-0.
IV. Public Speakers
Kathleen Adams, Village Walk of Naples Homeowners' Association, stated references
to the Sewer Inspection Clause appeared to have been eliminated from the Flood Damage
Prevention Ordinance of 2009. She asked if it will be discussed during the DSAC
Meeting.
Robert Wiley, Principal Project Manager, CDES, stated the topic had been removed
from the Ordinance and was not part of his presentation. The HOA Sewer Inspection
Clause will be brought to DSAC, as a separate Ordinance, in the future. He could not
specify a definite date.
(Robert Mulhere arrived - 3: 12 PM)
V. Staff Announcements/Updates
A. Public Utilities Division - Phil Gramatges
. Water sales rose to the 2007 level, resulting in a modest increase in user fee
revenues
. An interval review of the Capital Budget has been completed
. There are no growth-related projects to be completed
(Marco Espinar arrived - 3: 14 PM)
B. Fire Review - Ed Riley
. The Monthly Report was distributed to the Members
. 535 reviews were conducted in February (slightly higher than in January, 2009)
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Mr. Riley distributed a comparison chart of the current fee versus the proposed fees
for various applications. Committee members questioned Mr. Riley to ascertain there
will not be duplication of fees which were already paid (part of the SDP/SDPI
process) .
In regard to the sign placement and address issue, Mr. Riley stated public safety
concerns mandate specific placement for quick recognition by law enforcement, Fire
Department and EMS.
It was suggested, while Collier County's Addressing Ordinance must be consistent with
Statutory regulations, only one pair of eyes is necessary to review Site Development Plans
and Permits for compliance.
(George Hermanson arrived - 3:20 PM)
C. Transportation Division - Nick Casalanguida
. Budget review is in process
. Golden Gate Blvd. project (east of Wilson) will not be included in the current
Five-Year Plan
. Oilwell Road project remains on schedule and bidding on the Core Permit will
commence in approximately 3 months
. No other Capital Projects are slated for completion until after the Fiscal Year
begins in September, i.e., Collier Blvd. and Davis Blvd.
. 951 Project (from Golden Gate to Green) - will not be completed until 2013
A question was asked regarding the paving project on Oilwell Road (east of
Everglades Blvd.) and why there was no "road alert" on the County's website to state
the duration of the activity.
Mr. Casalanguida stated he will research the issue. [He later stated it was a simple
repaving of a limited area and not a new project.]
Discussion followed regarding the status of the U.S. 41/951 Consortium, and if Staff
would embrace a public/private partnership to further improvements.
Mr. Casalanguida stated there is only $8M available which is not enough money to
complete the intersection.
Additional discussion topics included ornate pedestrian bridges, medallions and
landscaping, Community MSTU's, and potential pavement failures due to lack of
Staff (presently at pre-2000 employment level) to resurface roadway.
It was suggested constructing sidewalks that were not in a project's initial plans
should be "rethought" to consider actual need versus simply demanding off-site
improvements for cosmetic reasons.
(James Boughton arrived - 3:45 PM)
It was pointed out Collier County's standards supersede FDOT's minimums and add
50% more to construction costs. It was suggested the LDC Amendment concerning
sidewalks and pathways should be reviewed and revised.
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It was suggested each DSAC Member devise a list of issues/concerns and include
Code issues, cost issues, and procedural problems.
Chairman Varian suggested DSAC consider holding a Workshop with the Board of
County Commissioners and the Pathway Committee.
A suggestion was made to handle the items through DSAC's LDR Subcommittee and
prioritize in order of importance before scheduling a Workshop.
D. CDES Division - Joe Schmitt
. The 8-week furlough cycle has begun
. Building Department/Engineering Review/Zoning Department Staff are taking
a one-week hiatus on a rotating basis
. The rotating schedule will be posted on the County's website
(2) Review ofMr. Schmitt's Responses to the Subcommittee Meeting Minutes
(Added Item)
. Dumpster issue (3 reviews are required): Joe Schmitt stated a dumpster
enclosure is an accessory structure and a separate permit is required.
Chairman Varian suggested submitting two applications, i.e., Building
Permit and Accessory Structure Permit, with both utilizing one set of
drawings.
. Pre-application meetings: Joe Schmitt clarified the terminology used
. Software issue: "Webxtender" - Jamie French stated the program was
originally purchased to serve only one division, not the entire County, and
does not have capability to provide external access to the public.
o Another vendor is being sought to provide a solution
. Square Footage: vents and shafts can be excluded and specific information
should not be placed on the cover sheet
Chairman Varian suggested continuing the discussion to the next meeting.
Members' comments will be emailed to Judy Puig who will circulate to the Members.
(3) Presentation of proposed LDR Subcommittee Meeting Schedule - Catherine
Fabacher (Added 1tem)
Copies of a letter to DSAC Members from Ms. Fabacher with attached LDC
Amendment (2008) were distributed.
. During the 2008 LDC Cycle, Staff proposed allowing unenclosed pool
equipment and well pumps to be located in the side yard of a property and
DSAC approved the revision.
. The BCC stated pool and all NC equipment should be located in the rear of
the yard and directed DSAC to review the proposed change and make
recommendations.
. The deadline for LDC Amendment requests is Monday, June 1,2009.
Discussion ensued concerning where mechanical equipment should be located. The
determining factor was the size of the setback which is a County issue.
Mr. Schmitt asked for a fiscal impact to be done. The BCC wants equipment either
located in the rear yard or indented into the side of the house. DSAC must show this
is an additional financial burden for the homeowner via a basic cost assessment.
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Ms. Fabacher proposed the following changes to DSAC's schedule:
. July 1 at I :00 PM - full DSAC meeting
. July 15th from 2:00 to 5:00 PM - LDR Subcommittee meeting
. August 5th at 1 :00 PM - full DSAC meeting
. August 19th from 2:00 to 5:00 PM - LCR Subcommittee meeting
. September 2nd at 1:00 - full DSAC meeting
LDC Amendment packets will be distributed to DSAC on July 15t to determine what
issues will be examined by the LDR Subcommittee.
The consensus was the July 15t meeting would remain at 3:00 PM, and only the
August and September meetings would commence at 1 :00 PM.
VI. Old Business
A. Review and Approval of Floodplain Management Ordinance - Robert Wiley
The Committee asked Mr. Wiley to provide the working document (i.e., strike-
through version) for comparison. Judy Puig will email copies to the Members.
(Continued to next meeting)
(Blair Foley left - 4:05 PM)
VIII. Committee Member Comments
A. Review and approval ofIetter to BCC to include Redevelopment Standards in
the upcoming LDC Cycle and requesting direction to Staff (Clay Brooker
drafted the letter)
Dalas Disney moved to approve the letter to the BCC drafted by Clay Brooker for
signature by Chairman Varian.
Second by Bob Mulhere. Carried unanimously, 13-0.
VII. New Business
A. Impact Fee Study Updates (presented to the BCC on March 24, 2009) - Amy
Patterson, Impact Fee Manager/Joe Schmitt
. On March 24,2009, a presentation was made to the BCC by the Productivity
Committee recommending a change in methodology by adopting a 2-year
average model in place of the 10-year regression analysis model currently
used, which was approved by the BCC. (A chart was distributed to the
Members. )
B. Impact Fee Indexing - Amy Patterson
. Six Impact Fees (EMS, Fire, Government, Law Enforcement, Library and
Educational) were slated for full study in 2009
. Staffrecommended suspending the studies until the end of the calendar year
in order to analyze whether or not the downward economic trend will continue
. Staff will return to the BCC in November/December for direction regarding
re-setting the study schedule
. The BCC directed Staff to return to DSAC for additional input regarding the
nine month delay
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. Two studies begun last year (Correctional Facilities and Parks & Recreation)
will not be suspended
Thomas Masters moved to support the Impact Fee two-year averaging model and
the Fee Indexing delay. Second by Dalas Disney. Carried unanimously, 13-0.
C. "CityView" Update - Mike Levy, Management and Budget Analyst
. Program is slated to "go live" on April 27, 2009
. Staff (Environmental, Comprehensive Planning, Zoning and Engineering) has
been attending training classes for the past two weeks
. External port will be available in April
D. Initial Discussion of the FY2010 Proposed Budget - Joe Schmitt
. Budget for 2010 is in process
. A full "Budget Brief' will be presented to DSAC
. Preparing two budgets with (3% and 25% reduction) in Fund III
. IfBCC does not increase the current Millage Rate, there will be a 25%
reduction in revenue
. If the BCC chooses "Revenue Neutral" (taxes remain the same but the Millage
Rate is increased), there will be a 3% reduction in revenue
. Will review projected revenue based on projected workload - some
departments may be combined
Regarding allocations, Dalas Disney asked for information concerning rental rates,
square footage, and how it is determined.
Joe Schmitt stated non-Ill activities pay rent to Fund 113.
E. Proposed Fee Schedule Maintenance - Joe Schmitt
Copies of Attachment "D" - Listing of Fee Schedule Changes was distributed to the
Members.
. Change #3 - Accessory Use - Public Utility Systems
Accessory use is a building, i.e., pump house and may not apply to private
use utilities
. Change # 4 - Town Home Site Plan Review
Town Home review for individual lot was combined and will review for
Plat issues (to grant "fee simple" title to land under unit)
(Robert Mulhere left - 5:00 PM)
Copies of the "strike-through" version ofCDES Fee Schedule were distributed.
. On Page 8, Item #15 - addition of an additional fee for 5th and subsequent
revIews
Will apply to projects that were kept in-house for 3 to 4 years
There was discussion concerning the "5th Review" and cost (20% of original fee).
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. Change #17 - Time Extension (Engineering Dept.)
Confusion concerning Change #17 and Change #5 - appears to be a
duplicate charge of$150.00.
. Change #5 refers to an SDP Extension for $150.00 - Staff will return with
an explanation
(James Boughton left - 5:10 PM)
Joe Schmitt stated he will present three items to the Board of County Commissioners
at the next meeting: Outdoor Amplified Sound Permit, a fee for Lien Searches, and
options to toll active PUDs. He stated he will bring DSAC's vote to the Board.
Clay Brooker moved to approve the Fee Schedule Changes subject to clarification of
the Time Extension (Change #17) and subject to the understanding that 5'h reviews
(Page 8, Item #15) will not to be arbitrarily demanded by Staff.
Second by George Hermanson.
Mr. Schmitt outlined the history of the noise ordinance and that the Outdoor Serving
Area Permit was void.
Motion carried unanimously, 11 - O.
Charles Abbott asked about fees for mold inspections done by Code Enforcement.
Mr. Schmitt responded there is a Property Maintenance Inspection, under the
Property Maintenance Ordinance, for example, to check for unpermitted structures.
Code Enforcement does not check for mold.
DSAC Meeting Dates: May 6, 2009 at 3:00 PM
June 3, 2009 at 3:00 PM
July 1, 2009 at 3:00 PM
August 5, 2009 at 1 :00 PM
There being no further business for the good ofthe County, the meeting was adjourned by
order of the Chairman at 5:17 PM.
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES
ADVISORY COMMITTEE
William Varian, Chairman
The Minutes were approved by the Board/Committee on
as presented , or as amended
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