CEB Minutes 01/22/2009 R
January 22,2009
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE
CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD
Naples, Florida
January 22, 2009
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Code Enforcement Board,
in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein,
met on this date at 9:00 a.m. in REGULAR SESSION in Building "F"
of the Government Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the following
members present:
CHAIRMAN: Gerald Lefebvre
Larry Dean
Kenneth Kelly
Edward Larsen
Richard Kraenbring
Lionel L'Esperance
George Ponte
Robert Kaufman
James Lavinski
ALSO PRESENT:
Jean Rawson, Attorney for the Code Enforcement Board
Diane Flagg, Code Enforcement Director
Jen Waldron, Code Enforcement Specialist
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CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD OF COLLIER COUNTY. FLORIDA
AGENDA
Date: January 22nd, 2009, at 9:00 a.m.
Location: Collier County Government Center, Third Floor, 3301 East Tamiami Trail, Building F, Naples, FI
34112.
NOTICE: THE RESPONDENT MAYBE LIMITIED TO TWENTY (20) MINUTES FOR CASE
PRESENTATION UNLESS ADDITIONAL TIME IS GRANTED BY THE BOARD. PERSONS WISHING
TO SPEAK ON ANY AGENDA ITEM WILL RECEIVE UP TO FIVE (5) MINUTES UNLESS THE TIME IS
ADJUSTED BY THE CHAIRMAN.
ALL PARTIES PARTICIPATING IN THE PUBLIC HEARING ARE ASKED TO OBSERVE ROBERTS
RULES OF ODER AND SPEAK ONE AT A TIME SO THAT THE COURT REPORTER CAN RECORD
ALL STATEMENTS BEING MADE.
ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL A DECISION OF THIS BOARD WILL NEED A RECORD OF
THE PROCEEDINGS PERTAINING THERETO, AND THEREFORE MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A
VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WmCH RECORD INCLUDES THE
TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED. NEITHER COLLIER
COUNTY NOR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING
THIS RECORD.
1. ROLL CALL
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - November 20th, 2008
4. PUBLIC HEARINGS/MOTIONS
A. MOTIONS
Motion for Extension of Time
1. BCC vs. Caribe Investments of Naples, Inc.
2. BCC vs. Bart & Sandi Chernoff
3. BCC vs Ahmet Melissa Celik
CEB NO. 2007090454
CEB NO. 2006030500
CEB NO. 2007110592
B. STIPULATIONS
C. HEARINGS
1. BCC vs. Milano Recreation Association, Inc.
2. BCC vs. Brian and Dara Gorman
3. BCC vs. Katia Sanchez
4. BCC VS. James Patrick & Laura S. Guerrero
5. BCC VS. Ibran Turcios
6. BCC VS. Kenneth J. Blocker Sr. & Kenneth 1. Blocker Jr.
CEB NO. CESD20080010230
CEB NO. CESD20080008567
CEB NO. CESD20080007967
CEB NO. CESD20080008804
CEB NO. CESD20080011952
CEB NO. CESD20070000587
5. OLD BUSINESS
A. Motion for Imposition of FineslLiens
1. BCC VS. Juan Hernandez & Adrianna Garcia
2. BCC VS. Jean Claude Martel
3. BCC VS. Vanderbilt Devco, LLC.
4. BCC VS. Tereso Bautista & Emiliana Vasquez
5. BCC VS. William & Laura Mara
6. BCC vs. J. Peaceful, L.C.
CEB NO. 2006081209
CEB NO. 2007080353
CEB NO. 2006070496
CEB NO. 2006100651
CEB NO. CESD20080004753
CEB NO. 2007060387
B. Motion for Reduction/Abatement of FineslLiens
1. BCC vs. Jamie Lam, Don Lee
CEB NO. 2006031099
6. NEW BUSINESS
7. CONSENT AGENDA
A. Motion for Imposition of FineslLiens
B. Request to Forward Cases to County Attorney's Office
1. BCC vs. Jeffrey Macasevich
2. BCC vs. 6240 Collier Group, Inc.
CEB NO. 2006100314
CEB NO. 2007080153
8. REPORTS
9. COMMENTS
10. NEXT MEETING DATE - February 26th, 2009
11. ADJOURN
January 22, 2009
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: I'd like to call the Code Enforcement
Board meeting to order.
I'd like to call the meeting to order. January 22nd, 2009.
Notice, the respondent may be limited to 20 minutes for case
presentation, unless additional time is granted by the board. Persons
wishing to speak on any agenda item will receive up to five minutes,
unless the time is adjusted by the chairman.
All parties participating in the public hearing are asked to
observe Roberts Rules of Order and speak one at a time so that the
court reporter can record all statements being made.
Any person who decides to appeal a decision of this board will
need a record of the proceedings pertaining thereto and, therefore,
may need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made,
which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the
appeal is to be based.
Neither Collier County nor the Code Enforcement Board shall be
responsible for providing this record.
And if you would introduce the new member, please.
MS. WALDRON: Sure. We've got--
MS. FLAGG: Mr. James Lavinski has joined the Code
Enforcement Board.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Congratulations.
MR. LA VINSKI: Thank you.
MR. KAUFMAN: Welcome.
MR. LARSEN: Welcome.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: And on that, we have one member
that this is his last meeting. George Ponte decided to retire from the
board after roughly 12 years being on the board.
(Applause.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Now can I have roll call.
MS. WALDRON: Good morning.
Mr. Ed Larsen?
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MR. LARSEN: Present.
MS. WALDRON: Mr. George Ponte?
MR. PONTE: Here.
MS. WALDRON: Mr. Gerald Lefebvre?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Here.
MS. WALDRON: Mr. Ken Kelly?
MR. KELLY: Here.
MS. WALDRON: Mr. Larry Dean?
MR. DEAN: Here.
MS. WALDRON: Mr. Lionel L'Esperance?
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Here.
MS. WALDRON: Mr. Richard Kraenbring?
MR. KRAENBRING: Here.
MS. WALDRON: Mr. Robert Kaufman?
MR. KAUFMAN: Here.
MS. WALDRON: And Mr. James Lavinski?
MR. LA VINSKI: Here.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay. Before we approve the
agenda, we're going to have some changes. So if you can go through
the changes slowly, please, so --
MS. WALDRON: Sure.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: -- the board members can make their
changes.
MS. WALDRON: Sure. Under number four, public
hearings/motions, we will be moving Item No. 5.A.2, BCC versus
John Claude Martel, Case No. 2007080353 for imposition of fines.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: I'm sorry, that's being moved to where?
MS. WALDRON: It's being moved right in front of motions,
number four. The first item.
Under 4.A, motions, we have two motions for continuance. The
first motion will be Milano Recreation Association, Inc., Case
CESD20080010230.
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And the second motion for continuance will be Item C.2 under
hearings, BCC versus Brian and Dara Gorman, Case No.
CESD20080008567.
MR. KRAENBRING: That will be moved to motion for
extension of time?
MS. WALDRON: Motion for continuance.
MR. KRAENBRING: Continuance, okay, thank you.
MS. WALDRON: And we also have an addition to the agenda,
which is a motion to amend the order. This is BCC versus Empire
Developers Group, Case No. CESD20080007919.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: And is that it for the changes?
MS. WALDRON: And we also have two stipulations.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay. You stuck those in on me.
MS. WALDRON: I did. I just got them.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay, go ahead.
MS. WALDRON: The first stipulation will be Item C.6, BCC
versus Kenneth J. Blocker, Sr. and Kenneth 1. Blocker, Jr. Case
CESD20070000587.
And the second stipulation will be Item C.3, BCC versus Katia
Sanchez. Case CESD20080007967.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: And is that it for the changes?
MS. WALDRON: I hope so.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: We should have just started anew.
Do I hear a motion?
MR. KRAENBRING: Make a motion to approve the changes in
the agenda.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do I hear a second?
MR. DEAN: I'll second the motion.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: And may I have a vote.
All those in favor?
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MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
MR. PONTE: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any nays?
(N 0 response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Motion passes.
Approval of minutes from January 20th, 2008. Do I hear a
motion?
MR. DEAN: I'll make a motion to approve the minutes,
November 20th, 2008.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do I hear a second?
MR. PONTE: I'll second.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
MR. PONTE: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any nays?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Motion passes.
We're going to start off with public hearing/motions/imposition
of fines. And it will be Claude Martel.
(Speakers were duly sworn.)
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MS. WALDRON: This is, in reference to Code Enforcement
Board Case No. 2007080353.
F or the record, the respondent is present.
On January 24th, 2008, the Code Enforcement Board issued a
finding of fact, conclusion of law and order. And that order is attached
for your review.
The respondent was found in violation, and the respondent has
not complied with the board's orders from January 24th, 2008.
At this time, the county is recommending imposing a lien for the
fine at a rate of$200 per day for the period between May 24th, 2008
to January 22nd, 2009, for a total of244 days in the amount of
$48,800.
Operational costs of 265.34 have not been paid.
The total requested lien amount is $49,065.34.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: When's the last time you've been out
there to look at the property?
MR. KEEGAN: I'm out there pretty much every other day.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Every other day, okay.
And has any progress been made?
MR. KEEGAN: None at all.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Mr. Martel?
MR. MARTEL: Yeah, I've did demolition. And I only got two
over here where I did my homestead, 3190, and 3176. And I'm
demolishing 3152. And I have five (phonetic) property cleared off
over there.
MR. KEEGAN: He's talking about properties that have been
demoed by the county by orders of the special magistrate. He's talking
about other cases, other properties.
3190, which is the case we have imposition of fines today,
nothing -- as I said, nothing has been done, no attempt has been made.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: And there's been no permits or
anything pulled on this property?
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MR. KEEGAN: No, sir.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Mr. Martel, could you speak more
directly into the microphone, please? Maybe pull the microphone
toward you closer.
MR. MARTEL: I looked for -- what do you call that anyway?
The building is already built over there for 35 or 40 years ago.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Well, that's not what we're
questioning today. We're just asking you if any work's been done. If it
hasn't, which according to the testimony of the investigator it has not
been done, we don't have much choice but to impose the fines.
MR. MARTEL: Well, I ain't got no money, I'll tell you that right
now. I ain't got no income.
And the county, they steal my property, two of my property.
And I'm fed up with this bullshit. You know what I'm talking about? I
got up to here, man --
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All right, sir.
I'm going to close the public hearing at this point.
Any questions of the board?
(No response.)
MR. KRAENBRING: Is this a homesteaded property?
MR. KEEGAN: Yes, sir.
I'm sorry.
MR. LARSEN: What is the unpermitted development?
MR. KEEGAN: It's village residential, the property.
And what was permitted was a single-wide mobile home.
Another unpermitted mobile home was attached. Cement structure in
the rear, a wooden structure on the side, and another wooden structure
on the other side of the property was all built without permits,
inspections, everything.
And what it is, if I may, if I could get into it, there is some new
members of the board. No?
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: No.
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MR. KEEGAN: No problem.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Yeah, we're not hearing the case, so
MR. KEEGAN: Okay.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: We just wanted to know your
testimony if any work has been done on the property.
Any other questions of the board?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do I hear a motion?
MR. KRAENBRING: Make a motion that we impose the fines.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do I hear a second?
MR. PONTE: I'll second.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
MR. PONTE: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Motion passes.
MR. KEEGAN: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: We're all set, Mr. Martel.
MR. MARTEL: What?
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: We are all set with you. We imposed
the fines.
MR. MARTEL: I don't want that.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: There's nothing that you can do
about it, except for clean up your property and then come in front of
.
us agaIn.
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MR. MARTEL: The county did clean it up.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: According to testimony of the
investigator, it was another property that was cleaned up, not this one.
So we're all set.
MR. MARTEL: How much the fine here?
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: The fine total is $49,265.34.
MR. MARTEL: We're going to have a war, I guess.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay. Thank you very much.
MR. MARTEL: It's the crookest (sic) son of a bitch I ever seen
in my life.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: We're going to move on. We're
going to move on to motions for continuance. And next one will be
Milano Recreation Association, Inc.
MR. ADAMCZYK: Good morning, Board. Mark Adamczyk,
attorney for the Milano Association, present.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Is the investigator here? Ifwe could
have them sworn in, please.
MS. STUDENT-STIRLING: For the record, Marjorie
Student-Stirling, Assistant County Attorney, with Ed Morad, the
investigator.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Thank you.
If you could swear him in, please. You won't need to be sworn in
as the attorney.
(Speakers were duly sworn.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Go ahead.
MR. ADAMCZYK: Board, good morning.
On or about December 12th, 2008, we -- Milano, the president
and myself as registered agent, was served with an amended notice of
violation, demanding compliance by January 12th, 2009.
We responded with some defensive motions which were filed
timely and should be in your defense packet.
Subsequent to that, leading up to today's hearing, I had a
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discussion with Assistant County Attorney Jeff Wright regarding a
continuance and a stipulation on the continuance, based mainly on the
fact that his witnesses could not be present today and needed
subpoenas, as do mine.
And I think Attorney Student that's covering for Mr. Wright will
be echoing that. And at this point we would move for a continuance to
March, only -- the reason why we need until March, a minimum of 60
days, is there is a concurrent lawsuit filed by the private complainant,
Imperial Golf Estates, regarding this matter, seeking access over our
client's property. Which is set for trial February 25 through 27th.
I understand the next available hearing would be February 26th.
Counsel, including myself, will be unavailable, we'll be across the
street at the courthouse at that time on a trial set by Judge Murphy.
So we would at the minimum request a 60-day continuance. And
I understand that there's no objection to the continuance. The only
discussion may be on when it would be continued to.
I have a motion to dismiss that I filed concurrently with my
motion to continue this morning, which I have agreed to defer until the
next Code Enforcement Board date in recognition of the fact that Mr.
Wright is not here today. And we would request to argue that motion
as a preliminary matter to any evidentiary hearing at the next set date.
MS. STUDENT-STIRLING: For the record, again, Marjorie
Student-Stirling.
Yes, the county concurs on the motion to continue for the
reasons put on the record by the attorney for Milano.
And also, it's my understanding from Mr. Wright that the motion
to dismiss at this juncture should be withdrawn without prejudice so
you could refile it later.
That is what I have in an e-mail from Mr. Wright.
So if you would amend yours to withdraw that motion with leave
to file it at a later time, I think that's in keeping with my understanding
from Mr. Wright.
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MR. ADAMCZYK: Yeah. In the phone call, I agreed to defer
hearing on the motion. I don't see any material difference in
withdrawing it and refiling before the next hearing, and -- if that's
what his notes are. And we're not -- I don't think there's an argument
over that. We will be refiling it so that the board can hear it at a later
time.
MS. STUDENT-STIRLING: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Just for my personal knowledge,
usually when a court date is set or a trial date is set, is that pretty hard
and fast? I don't want to see you come back here in March and say I
need continuance again.
MR. ADAMCZYK: Well, I understand, sir. And as of now, the
trial date is set, unless the judge finds a reason to continue the trial. I
don't -- I'm not aware of any conflicts that counselor the client has in
March. There's nothing we can do to -- pertaining to the judge's
decision. But right now there's an order setting the trial for February
25th, sir.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Very good.
Any other testimony?
MS. STUDENT-STIRLING: None other. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay. Any comments?
MR. KRAENBRING: I make a motion that we grant the
continuance till March.
MS. RAWSON: March 26th.
MR. KRAENBRING: March 26th.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do I hear a second?
MR. KELLY: Second.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
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MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
MR. PONTE: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ADAMCZYK: I'm sorry, one additional matter.
Were you going to be requesting the issuance of a subpoena for
a witness?
MS. STUDENT-STIRLING: Oh, yes. The county was going to
be requesting that, and I understand -- I believe Ms. Waldron has it for
signature by the chairman.
MR. ADAMCZYK: At this point, the Milano Recreation
Association would request, we need subpoenas for two witnesses to
appear at the next code hearing. Mr. Joseph Schmitt, who's the
administrator of the CDES, and Mr. Wayne Arnold with Q. Grady
Minor & Associates.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay. Do we need to make a motion
to -- Jean?
MS. RAWSON: You have to issue the subpoenas. I don't know
if you have to vote on it, because I think it's sort of automatic.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay.
MS. RAWSON: You know, I guess it's just between me and Ms.
Student, who's prepared it. If you've got it prepared, Gerald, you need
to sign it.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay, very good.
I'll go ahead --
MS. STUDENT-STIRLING: There's one prepared, so may I
approach?
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Sure.
MS. STUDENT-STIRLING: If I may.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: And just for the record, since we
have a full board the two alternates would be able to be involved in
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discussions but not in any vote. That would be Mr. Kaufman, if I'm
not mistaken. You're an alternate, correct?
MR. KAUFMAN: Yes.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: And Mr. Lavinski.
MR. ADAMCZYK: Chairman, if I may?
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Yes, sir.
MR. ADAMCZYK: It's my understanding I needed to request
the subpoena and have that request granted. I would need to prepare
the subpoenas and submit them for the Chairman's signature. Is there a
-- can I do that through the mail ?
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Actually, I go to Ms. Rawson's
office usually on Monday or Tuesdays when all the orders are
prepared. At that point I can sign at that same time, if that's okay.
MS. RAWSON: You know what I'm going to do is I'm going to
give him my e-mail address. He can e-mail me over the subpoena.
If you'll put it for Mr. Lefebvre's signature, we will do it.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay, very good.
MR. ADAMCZYK: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: You're welcome.
Thank you very much.
The next one, next continuance or asking for continuance will be
Brian and Dara Gorman.
(Speakers were duly sworn.)
MR. WHITE: Good morning, Mr. Chairman, members of the
board. Patrick White, the law firm of Porter, Wright, Morris and
Arthur, representing Brian and Dara Gorman.
I apologize for not having enough information early enough in
time to know to file the request within the 15 days, but I did have it to
staff day before yesterday, I believe. I appreciate your indulgence in
considering it this morning and moving it up onto the agenda for
consideration.
The factual circumstance we found ourselves in in our efforts to
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work to abate this violation were such that I did not have the next
needed piece of information from the Department of Environmental
Protection until inside the 15-day window.
So I had the choice between spending my client's money to
prepare and file a motion timely or trying to continue to work to
actually abate the violation before the hearing date so we could appear
today and have the matter disposed of.
Although I did get the information from the DEP, that next step
is to talk with the county staff. I attempted to do that Tuesday
morning. The individual I needed to speak with didn't return to work
until today.
So we're in a position where I believe we're very close to
resolving the somewhat complex factual issues of ownership and
getting ourselves in a position to be able to have a permit issued in
order to abate the violation. But I feel we need a little more time in
order to be able to do that.
And I request your indulgence today and the request for a
continuance. If there's any questions, I'd be happy to try and address
them.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: How many days for a continuance?
MR. WHITE: I would say until your next meeting should be
plenty.
MR. DEAN: Just a quick question. Is the boat dock and lift in
operation?
MR. WHITE: I do not know, sir. I would assume that it is, but
this time of year it's tough to say. The water's been very, very low.
MR. MUSSE: It appears to be operational, but I didn't actually
see them run it. They had the boats on there.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: What is the county's opinion?
MR. MUSSE: No objection to the continuance.
MR. WHITE: I'd indicate for the record that the Assistant
County Attorney has agreed, no objection.
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MS. STUDENT-STIRLING: Yes. For the record, Marjorie
Student-Stirling, County Attorney's Office, is in agreement.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any questions of the board?
(N 0 response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do I hear a motion?
MR. KRAENBRING: Make a motion that we allow the
continuance.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Till?
MR. KRAENBRING: The next meeting.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do I have a second?
MR. KELLY: Second.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
MR. PONTE: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any nays?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Motion passes.
MR. WHITE: Thank you, Board.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: See you next month.
MS. RAWSON: February 26th.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: One other thing -- hold on a second.
Do we -- are we going to notice him or is this his notice?
MR. WHITE: We'll waive notice. February 26th, I believe.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Yes.
MR. WHITE: Thank you.
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CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Thank you very much.
All right. We're going to move on to motion for extension of
time. Caribe Investments of Naples, Inc.
(Speakers were duly sworn).
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: State your name, please.
MR. ARCE: Yes, my name is Efrain Arce. I'm with Caribe
Investments of Naples.
I have requested an extension. But as far as we're concerned, I
have pictures here that the job has been completed.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Would you like to enter that as
evidence?
MR. ARCE: Yes.
Yeah, the walls are finished and they're painted and the labels.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: You do understand that we will keep
those as evidence --
MR. ARCE: Sure.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: -- and those will not be returned to
you.
MR. ARCE: Yeah, no problem.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do I hear a motion to accept --
MR. DEAN: Motion to accept.
CHAIRMAN 'LEFEBVRE: -- package A or Exhibit A?
Second?
MR. KRAENBRING: Second.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
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MR. PONTE: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any nays?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Motion passes.
If you'd like maybe to explain the pictures?
MR. ARCE: Oh, that was because of the final inspection, it was
passed, subject on getting the labels put up. And then afterwards they
put up the labels stating that the -- you know, the information on the
walls. That's picture number one.
That's one of the walls that's been painted on one side.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: I can't distinguish what that is.
MR. ARCE: No, you can't. See, that's the left wall. It's to have
the roof -- I mean, the ceiling has to be painted, put in there.
That's the other wall. That's the other side of the wall.
That's also same wall, looking the other way.
And that's including the attic that usually you don't paint the
attic, you paint from the --
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Right, from the drop ceiling down.
MR. ARCE: Yeah.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Yes.
Okay, has there been substantial work completed since he was in
front of us?
MR. LETOURNEAU: They've done quite a bit of work. The
only thing they need to do now is get the C.O. on the permit and he'll
be done.
For the record, Jeff Letourneau, Collier County Code
Enforcement Supervisor.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Thank you.
And how long before you think you will be done with this?
MR. ARCE: The holdup now is the -- they asked to revise a
bathroom with handicap. I was there last week at the county and we're
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having problems with the builder over the contractor.
And the permit's still there. Hasn't been picked up yet. You
know, the wall was finished, and this was something that just came up.
And we're going to be working on it.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: How much time would you need for
continuance?
MR. ARCE: Well, I have the business owner, he's the one that --
usually when we lease a unit, we ask the tenant to make sure that they
pull the permits and, you know, any addition. And he's been dealing
with the contractor. But I don't know if he -- his license is active or --
MR. LETOURNEAU: I checked yesterday the permit, and it
came up as the main contractor's certificate is not active. I called the
contractors licensing and what they did is he had -- he hasn't submitted
any recent paperwork for his Workmen's Comp., so the permit has his
inspections on hold until he comes forth with that paperwork.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Or the other option would be to get
another contractor, correct?
MR. LETOURNEAU: Correct.
MR. ARCE: We tried to do that.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: How much time would you be
looking for as a continuance -- or not a continuance but more time, I
guess.
MR. ARCE: It's hard to say. You know, if we'd done -- I mean, I
know that this fellow -- that this contractor told him that he was going
to file a lien if we didn't pay him. One of the reason that it's been
delayed, he wanted to get paid up front.
And, you know, the permit's still there and he wants to get paid
up front. And I guess it's not the way of doing business.
You know, I have no idea how long it will take for us to go
ahead and cancel this guy out if he doesn't file a lien against our
property .
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: I've asked several times and the
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question I'll ask once again is how much time will you need before
you'll be complete? That's how we're going to base our decision.
MR. ARCE: Two months? He say around two months.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Sixty days.
MR. ARCE: Sixty days. Is that what you need?
Yeah.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay. Any questions of the board?
MR. KELLY: A comment, perhaps.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Go ahead.
MR. KELLY: Seeing as how if the board graciously decides to
grant this extension, it will be the third. And I would just like to say to
the respondent, I understand your circumstances and I appreciate
explaining them to us, because it does help us in understanding what
you're going through. But being as this might be the third extension,
the board might not be as lenient next time. So make sure that it's done
in 60 days.
MR. ARCE: Oh, we're going to do our best.
MR. KELLY: Sorry you had to go through that with the
contractor, though. It's a horrible situation to be in.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: I mean, the other thing is just to
leave the fines running and then let him come back in front of us when
everything's completed.
MR. KELLY: Have they been imposed?
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Not yet.
MS. RAWSON: No.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: I don't think they have.
Comments from the board? Thoughts on the board?
MR. KRAENBRING: Do we have any health or safety issues
involved with this work not being completed?
MR. LETOURNEAU: I don't believe so. I believe the work is up
to standards, so there's -- you know, it's just as good as any other walls
in there as far as the fire goes. It's just that he just needs to get his
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bathroom in order and get his final C.O. So I don't think it's a safety
issue right now.
MR. KRAENBRING: I would echo Mr. Kelly's comments that
we will not be as lenient next time if there's no health or safety issues.
And it seems like he's stuck with a contractor that's not performing. I'll
make a motion that we grant the 60 days.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do I hear a second?
MR. DEAN: I'll second that motion.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
MR. PONTE: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any nays?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Motion passes.
Again, you will have 60 days. And if it is not completed, I doubt
very much that this board is going to look favorably upon that.
MR. ARCE: All right, thank you.
MR. KELLY: May I make a comment in the respondent's
behalf?
Sir, you can challenge a lien that's filed against your property.
And furthermore, you as the owner have the right to cancel that
permit. You will have to get a contractor to pull a new one, because
it's a commercial property, but I wouldn't just allow a lien to sit
against your property. It will hurt your chances to refinance or perhaps
do something in the future.
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MR. ARCE: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Next case will be BCC versus Bart
and Sandi Chernoff.
MS. McALLISTER: Good morning. Colleen McAllister for Bart
and Sandi Chernoff.
After all this discussion about court dates and leniency, I am
back once more.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: If I can hold you off for a second. I'd
like to have the investigator and the respondent sworn in. I don't know
ifhe's going to speak, but --
(All speakers were duly sworn.)
MS. McALLISTER: When I was here last time, we had a
backup trial date for this matter. We had already told the board that
Mr. Chernoff is without the financial resources to complete the
required demolition without the court judgment in the case, and that
the case was set for backup trial on December 8 and 9.
It actually was set for trial on December 7th, and we were good
to go. And Mr. Daniels, who's the defendant in this case, obtained
counsel on December 2nd, and moved for a continuance so that his
counsel could get up to speed.
We objected to the continuance, but the judge quite frankly was
between a rock and a due process hard spot there and granted the
continuance, understanding that we were under the gun with code
enforcement.
She reset the trial for January 8 and 9, and I was already on a
Lee County trial docket during the two-week period that included
January 8 and 9.
I waited until December 31 st, after my pretrial in Lee County, to
see where I was on their two-week trial docket, and by December
31 st, we had determined between the judicial assistant in Lee County
and myself that on January the 8th I would need to be two people in
two places at the same time. And so I was forced to ask the court for a
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continuance, because I was already in trial, which took precedence
over the continuation and scheduling of this trial.
The court made it clear -- I do have an order here from the court
showing the trial date, which is set for February 19th at 9:30 a.m. That
is not a backup date, that is a date certain.
If we can -- I didn't receive this until after I submitted the packet,
so -- or the motion. If you want to see it --
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Would you like to enter that as
Exhibit A?
MS. McALLISTER: Sure.
MR. KRAENBRING: Make a motion to accept.
MR. DEAN: Second.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
MR. PONTE: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MS. McALLISTER: So we are set for date certain trial,
February 19th.
With the acquisition of counsel by the defendant we have also
truly tried to resolve this and may yet settle before February 19th. The
Defendants have indicated a willingness to try and settle.
We met informally last week, all parties, and are continuing to
try and settle. If not, we will go to trial on February 19th and a
judgment will be rendered. It's a one-day trial, nonjury. So pretty
much it's going to be done at the end of the day on February 19th,
unless the court reserves for a day or two.
So I would ask the court (sic) at this point -- given that the order
that was rendered by the board was that Mr. Chernoff had to actually
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do the demolition by the deadline date -- if we have a February 19th
decision and resolution, then hopefully we can get the demo done by
March whatever your next -- March 25th or 26th, whatever that next
date is and be able to come in and tell you it's been resolved.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any questions of the board?
MR. KELLY: Just refreshing the memory. Is this the pole barn
that --
MS. McALLISTER: Yes.
MR. KELLY: -- was an encroachment issue, changed into an
apartment for your mother and no longer in use.
MS. McALLISTER: Right.
MR. KELLY: So there's no more safety issues.
MR. CHERNOFF: Correct.
MS. McALLISTER: No.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Glad you can remember the cases so
well.
MS. McALLISTER: I've been here a few times.
MR. KRAENBRING: We have heard this case a few times.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Yes, we have.
Is there any ob --
MS. McALLISTER: And I do apologize for that. As I say, we
were -- this was not Mr. Chernoffs or my doing that we didn't go in
December. We were ready.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any objection by the county?
MR. MORAD: For the record, Senior Code Enforcement
Investigator Ed Morad.
Just as a reminder, as the case has been going on for three years,
it was a complaint called in from a concerned individual who I still
have to stay in contact with after each hearing. And they had some
legitimate questions that I couldn't answer that only the respondent
could answer, if I'm allowed to ask those questions.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Well, do they pertain to the
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continuance?
MR. MORAD: Yes, it does. I believe it does. I mean, one of the
concerns is if --
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Oh, we haven't -- Jean?
MS. RAWSON: Well, this is not an evidentiary hearing. What I
would probably suggest, Mr. Morad, is that you talk to Mr. Chernoff
and counsel after the board rules on the continuance, and maybe you
can get the questions answered and the concerns answered so that you
can deal with the neighbors.
MR. MORAD: Okay.
MS. McALLISTER: I would point out to the board that the
concerned neighbor is on the witness list for trial, so I would be
reluctant to have a discussion about things that were going back to him
with a pending trial before us.
MR. LARSEN: Mr. Chairman, if I may.
Ms. McAllister, you don't specifically ask for a specific period
of time in your application. Is 60 days sufficient for you to wrap up
whatever proceedings you may have before Judge Ellis?
MS. McALLISTER: I think so. At the time I wrote the motion, I
still thought we were on a January -- we were on January trial docket,
because I still thought I was going to be in the second week of the Lee
County docket. So I left that blank because I still was up in the air.
But 60 days, given that we have a February 19th trial date,
should be sufficient.
MR. LARSEN: Okay, thank you.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any other questions?
MR. KRAENBRING: Just a comment. You know, we've heard
this case a number of times, and it really just seems like it's a matter
between the previous owner and, you know, the respondent. And it's
just wrapped up in the courts. So I really don't think we have much of
a choice except to grant the continuance, hope that it works out.
I don't think we have any public safety issues here, it's a private
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residence, so I would make a motion that we grant the continuance till
March 26th.
MR. DEAN: I'll second that motion.
MR. KELLY: I have a comment before we vote.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Go ahead.
MR. KELLY: If all goes well and they do get the judgment,
there's still the matter of actually collecting on the judgment and
getting the funds in order to do the demolition work, finding the
contractor and so forth, getting permits, having those permits C.O.'d
before they do finally come into compliance with the original order. I
think that March might not be enough time and we might see them
.
agaIn.
MS. RAWSON: If I might, this is a motion for extension of
time, not a motion to continue. So probably just need to give time, 60
days, 90 days, whatever you decide. And it doesn't necessarily have to
be back on the docket unless Jennifer puts it back there.
So this is a motion for an extension of time to comply with the
board's order, rather than a motion to continue.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay.
MR. KELLY: Just also to add one last thing. They do seem to be
working diligently, and they have kept us step by step in the loop as to
what was going on. So I don't think, since there's no safety or any
safety violation, I don't think there's an issue with the granting --
actually, six months to give them plenty of time to get this taken care
of.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: I think we have a first and a second
for two months, so -- for 60 days.
All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
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MR. PONTE: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any nays?
MR. KELLY: Nay.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: One nay. Motion passes. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: The next motion for extension of
time will be BCC versus Ahmet and Melissa Celik. I'm not sure I said
that correctly.
(Speakers were duly sworn.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: If you could please state your name
for the record.
MS. CELIK: I'm Melissa Celik.
MR. CELIK: Ahmet Celik.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Thank you.
And you're looking for an extension of time?
MS. CELIK: Yes, we are.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Can you explain the reasoning?
MS. CELIK: My husband's self-employed. I just lost my job and
got another job. We have a three-year-old daughter. We're unable to
make our mortgage payment. We're doing everything we can just to
keep food on the table. We're trying to work with the mortgage
company now to hopefully, you know, not become one of the
statistics.
But not that we don't find this extremely important and we want
to be in compliance, but we feel that we have other priorities right
now that are limhing us to be able to purchase the trees right now.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: And in the letter that you wrote back
on January 7th, you're looking for a one-year extension?
MS. CELIK: Yes, please.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any comments?
MS. O'FARRELL: The county is not opposed to this request.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: And I'm not sure if you stated your
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name for the record.
MS. O'FARRELL: I'm sorry. Susan O'Farrell, Collier County
Code Enforcement Investigator.
MR. KRAENBRING: We know who you are.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: There's probably a lot of people out
there watching that don't.
Any discussion, questions from the board?
MR. KRAENBRING: I'll make a motion that we approve the
extension of time.
MR. LARSEN: I second it.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
MR. PONTE: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any nays?
(N 0 response.)
MS. CELIK: Thank you very much.
MR. CELIK: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Just a word of recommendation. I
don't know if this area is irrigated or not, but you might want to try to
plant it during the wet season or rainy season so they will survive.
MS. CELIK: Yeah.
MR. CELIK: If something change before that time, I mean, I
will like to do that.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Right. I just don't want to see you
come back here a year from now and tell us it's the dry season--
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MS. CELIK: Right.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: -- and the added expense --
MS. CELIK: I understand.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: -- and then you have a loss of25, 30
percent whatever amount of trees where you're going to have to
replant and it's going to be an additional cost, so --
MS. CELIK: Okay. Thank you for that.
MR. CELIK: Thanks, gentlemen.
MR. KRAENBRING: Good luck.
MR. CELIK: Thank you, Ms. O'Farrell.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay, we're going to move on to
motion to amend the order. And it will be BCC versus Empire
Developers Group. Did I skip something?
MS. WALDRON: No, I was just going to explain what we're
asking for at this point.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay. You had that look like I
skipped something.
MS. WALDRON: We're bringing this order back to you due to
the fact that we left out some verbiage stating word for word that if the
respondent fails to abate the violation, the county may abate the
violation and may use the assistance of the Collier County Sheriffs
Office to enforce the provisions of this order.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay.
MS. WALDRON: That's the only change we have that we're
requesting to that order.
MR. LARSEN: I believe that I remember specifically that was
the request at the time, and it was approved.
MS. WALDRON : Well, it's not in this particular case. There was
another case that was brought forth to you for Empire Developers
Group as well.
MR. LARSEN: Oh, okay. So this is a second --
MS. WALDRON: So the second order does have it, this order
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does not.
MR. LARSEN: Oh, okay.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Has this been discussed with Mr.
Slavic (phonetic) at Empire Developers Group?
MS. WALDRON: Yes, I did speak with him on the phone
yesterday.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: And he --
MS. WALDRON: And I informed him he would get a new copy
of the order once it is recorded.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay. We do have a Mrs. Ebert, I
think it is, in the audience. I'm not sure -- Jean?
MS. RAWSON: Yes.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Would a change like this--
generally do we allow the public to speak at all or --
MS. RAWSON: The only amendment to the already issued
order of this board is that if the respondent doesn't abate, that the
Collier County Sheriff and the county can go in and abate. It's
something we usually put in a lot of the orders, but wasn't in this one.
It doesn't change the facts that you heard, nor the order that you
rendered.
MR. KRAENBRING: Seems to me like it's actually enforcing
the order --
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Right.
MR. KRAENBRING: -- more in favor of the complaining
neighbors.
I make a motion that we, you know, accept the change and the
order.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Second.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
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MR. DEAN: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
MR. PONTE: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any nays?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Motion passes.
MS. WALDRON: And Mr. Chairman, we do have an additional
stipulation that has come in.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay.
MS. WALDRON: It will be Item C.5 under hearings, BCC
versus Ibran Turcios. Case CESD200800 11952.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay. Do I hear a motion to amend
the agenda?
MR. KRAENBRING: Make a motion to accept the amended --
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do I hear a second?
MR. KRAENBRING: -- agenda.
MR. KELLY: Second.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
MR. PONTE: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any nays?
(No response.)
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CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Motion passes.
Okay, we're going to move on to stipulations. And the first
stipulation will be Kenneth 1. Blocker, Sr. and Kenneth J. Blocker, Jr.
(Speakers were duly sworn).
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Just give us a minute or two maybe
to read the stipulated agreement.
Everyone had a chance to read?
MR. KRAENBRING: Yes.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: And if you can state your name for
the record, please.
MS. GREEN: My name is Gina Green. And I'm representing--
I'm a civil engineering representing the Blockers.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: You have authority to represent
them?
MS. GREEN: Yes, I do.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: And you have the authority to sign
on behalf of the Blockers?
MS. GREEN: Yes, I do.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Jean?
MS. RAWSON: That's fine.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay.
All right, any questions from the board?
(No response.)
MR. KRAENBRING: No, just I'd like to hear from the county,
just from the investigator, ifhe agrees with the stipulation and he's
comfortable with it.
MR. WALKER: Yes, sir, county is in full agreement with the
stipulation that's presented to you today.
MR. KRAENBRING: Do we need to read anything into the
record for this?
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Could you identify yourself for the
record?
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MR. WALKER: Yes, my name is Weldon Walker, Code
Investigator, Collier County.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Jean, do you want him to read into --
MS. RAWSON: Yes, because you need to approve it but it needs
to be on the record.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay.
MR. WALKER: Yes, ma'am. For the record, Case No.
CESD20070000587. Respondents are the Blocker, Jr., Blocker, Sr.
Stipulation is as follows: Therefore, it is agreed between the
parties that the respondents shall pay operational costs in the amount
of $86.71; abate all violations by: Obtaining a Collier County building
permit with all inspections for the property located at 105 Main Street,
Immokalee, Florida, 34142, within 180 days of the date of this hearing
or a fine of $200 a day will be imposed; or obtain a Collier County
demolition permit with all inspections through final C.O., or the -- for
the property located at 105 Main Street, Immokalee, Florida, 34142,
within 180 days of the date of this hearing or a fine of $200 a day will
be imposed.
If the respondents fail to abate the violation, the county may
abate the violation and may use the assistance of a Collier County
sheriffs officer to enforce the provision of this order.
Respondent must notify code enforcement within 24 hours of
abatement of the violation and request the investigator perform a site
inspection to confirm compliance.
Twenty - four hour notice shall be by phone or fax, and made
during the workweek.
If the violation is abated 24 hours prior to a Saturday or a
Sunday or a legal holiday, then a notification must be made on the
next day that is not a Saturday or Sunday or legal holiday.
The respondent -- if the respondent fails to abate the violation,
the county may abate the violation and may use the assistance of
Collier County Sheriffs Office to enforce the provision of this
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agreement, of which the stipulation is signed and agreed.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Typically, number one, when this is
operational costs, we ask that the respondent pay it within 30 days. So
you might want to add that in there.
MR. WALKER: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: If you can add that in there and have
the respondent initial that.
Do I have any discussion from the board?
MR. LARSEN: I have a question of Ms. Green.
MS. GREEN: Yes.
MR. LARSEN: Evidently this pertains to a new use for a
commercial garage?
MS. GREEN: Yes.
MR. LARSEN: Do you anticipate running into any problems in
obtaining the permits?
MS. GREEN: Well, where we're at right now on the process, I
was actually brought in and had a preap. meeting last August
regarding a site improvement plan for this piece of property in order
for the church to be able to have the use. And we had the meeting.
The problem with the site is, is that there's not enough on-site
parking to support the church.
I have submitted an administrative parking reduction request
from the county in order to use the on-street parking for the use. We're
waiting right now, and that will be the determining factor as far as
whether we move forward with an SIP for the church if we get the
parking reduction.
You know, the church would like to stay there. They're a good
tenant. You know it is tough these days to get a tenant to rent -- that
pays the rent on time.
But if for whatever reason I do not get the parking reduction for
them, then the next course of action would be that they would either
go back to the original use and put the building back to its original
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state or spend that six-month time to see if we can do an SIP for a less
intensive use that would still work on the space.
So really, we're waiting for that administrative parking
reduction. That will determine the course that we're going. And if we
have to go the SIP route, we should be able to get everything within
the six months and obtain the building permits needed to permit; if
there's alterations that have to be made, get the necessary permits and
bring them into compliance.
MR. LARSEN: Thank you very much.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any other questions?
MR. DEAN: I just had one. What was the commercial garage
used for?
MS. GREEN: It was an auto repair shop.
MR. DEAN: Auto repair shop? Thank you.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do I hear a motion?
MR. KRAENBRING: Make a motion that we grant the
stipulation.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do I hear a second?
MR. PONTE: I'll second.
MR. LARSEN: I'll second.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
MR. PONTE: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any nays?
(No response.)
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CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Motion passes.
MR. WALKER: Thank you very much.
MS. GREEN: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Next one will be Katia Sanchez.
(Speakers were duly sworn.)
(Interpreter Barbara Miranda was duly sworn.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Just going to take a minute or two to
read this.
Everyone all set?
MR. PONTE: I just have a question. I can't read the days. How
many days are involved?
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: 180.
MR. PONTE: 180?
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Yes.
MR. PONTE: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: She agrees to the stipulated
agreement, Katia does?
THE INTERPRETER: Yes, she does. Yes.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: If you can read the order in, please
-- or the stipulation in.
MS. PEREZ: Good morning. For the record, Code Enforcement,
Cristina Perez.
This case is in reference to Case No. CESD20080007967.
It's in reference to a violation of a concrete block addition to the
rear of the house with windows, doors and electricity.
The respondent and myself met outside and we came into
agreement with the stipulation to pay the operational cost in the
amount of$87.57 incurred in the prosecution of this case within 30
days of this hearing.
Number two: Abate all violations by applying for and obtaining
a Collier County building permit for such improvements or demolition
permit to restore building to its original permitted state. All related
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inspections and C.O. within 180 days of this hearing or a fine of $200
per day will be imposed until the violation is abated.
Three: Also that the respondent must notify code enforcement
within 24 hours of abatement of this violation and request the
inspector perform a site inspection to confirm compliance.
Twenty-four hour notice shall be by phone or fax and made
during a workweek. If the violation is abated 24 hours prior to a
Sunday -- Saturday, Sunday or legal holiday, then the notification
must be made on the next day that is not a Saturday, Sunday or legal
holiday.
F our: If the respondent fails to abate the violation, the county
may abate the violation and may use the assistance of the Collier
County Sheriffs Office to enforce the provisions of this agreement.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any questions?
MR. PONTE: Yes, I do. What's the reason for giving the
respondent over a half a year to correct this?
MS. PEREZ: They had been having difficulties with the
contractor that had been obtaining the blueprints.
I know there was a time frame when I attempted to help Ms.
Sanchez locate the gentleman. He just took the money and didn't
return any of the blueprints for them.
She then had to take it upon herself to go to Miami and get the
information required for the material that was purchased for the
addition.
I know they've also been having financial difficulties obtaining
the money required to complete the project.
MR. PONTE: So has a new contractor been selected or retained?
MS. PEREZ: She's doing it as owner/builder now. Because the
gentleman, he did return the blueprints to her, but it was not com -- the
information wasn't completed.
MR. PONTE: Okay. Now that she's totally in charge, why would
it take more than a half a year to make the correction?
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MS. PEREZ: From what I -- it's still not completed. There's still
work that has to be done --
MR. PONTE: Yeah.
MS. PEREZ: -- to the structure.
MR. PONTE: I mean, over a half year's time is very generous.
How much work has to be done?
MS. PEREZ: Well, they still have to submit the blueprints and
see if they even approve them, if the county even approves them, and
if all their information is correct. So it still has to go through the
revision purpose. And it being open space, it's living space, so I know
that her financial, she's going to have to probably pay some impact
fees, so she's going to have financially a burden to pay on -- to obtain
the permit.
MR. KRAENBRING: This is not a rental property of any sort?
MS. PEREZ: No.
MR. KRAENBRING: It is a single-family--
MS. PEREZ: Yes.
MR. KRAENBRING: -- residence?
Thank you.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Mr. Kelly?
MR. KELLY: Is the addition occupied at all?
MS. PEREZ: No. They weren't using it. It only had a couch, a
table, just like it's open space, but it's not being used as sleeping
quarters.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any other questions?
(No response.)
MR. KRAENBRING: I make a motion that we approve the
stipulation.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do I hear a second?
MR. KELLY: Second.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any further discussion?
(No response.)
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CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any nays?
MR. PONTE: Nay.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: You're all set. You have six months
to complete it.
MS. PEREZ: Thank you.
MR. KRAENBRING: Good luck.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do you need a break?
THE COURT REPORTER: No, thank you.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Before we jump into the hearings.
Okay.
MR. KRAENBRING: Do we have another stipulation?
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do we have another stip? Oh, yes,
we do. Thank you.
Ibran -- the next stipulated agreement will be Ibran Turcios. I'm
sure you'll correct me.
(Speakers were duly sworn.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: If you just give us a minute to read
the stipulated agreement.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Is there any way we could focus that a bit
more, or is it just me?
MR. PONTE: No, it's me, too.
MR. KRAENBRING: Yeah, I thought my bifocals were off.
MR. KELLY: It's a cell phone.
MR. DEAN: It's a wake-up call.
MR. KELLY: That's a cell phone too close to the microphone.
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CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: My phone's in my car, so it's not me.
MS. WALDRON: Is it any better?
MR. L'ESPERANCE: No.
MR. KELLY: Can you zoom in a little?
MR. KRAENBRING: We'll just have to --
MR. L'ESPERANCE: We'll just have to cope, huh?
MR. KRAENBRING: -- muddle through.
There you go.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: At least it's bigger. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: State your name for the record.
MR. TURCIOS: My name is Ibran Turcios.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: What is it again?
MR. TURCIOS: Ibran Turcios.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Thank you.
And you agree to the stipulated agreement?
MR. TURCIOS: Yes.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Very good.
If you can read the stipulated agreement into the record, please.
MR. PAUL: For the record, Investigator Renald Paul, Collier
County Code Enforcement Investigator.
Mr. Ibran has agreed to the stipulated agreement, stating that
he'll pay the operational costs in the amount of $88.43 incurred in the
prosecution of this case within 30 days of this hearing.
Respondent is required to obtain any and all permits as required
by Collier County for any and all additions to the residents, or obtain a
demolition permit for removal of all unpermitted additions to this
property and obtain all required inspections and certificate of
completion within 90 days of this hearing or be fined $100 a day for
each day the violation remains unabated.
The respondents must notify code enforcement within 24 hours
of abatement. And that if the respondent fails to abate the violation,
the county may abate the violation and may use the assistance of the
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Collier County Sheriffs Office to enforce the provisions of this
agreement.
And the owner has agreed to this.
MR. KELLY: Investigator Paul, it states that he simply just
needs the certificate of occupancy. But could you tell us if -- because
the permits had expired, so they have to reap. for more extension and
then get the C.O.
Could you tell us if the inspections needed to get the C.O. have
been approved?
MR. PAUL: Not -- well, he had two inspections when he
originally pulled the permit that had actually passed, but he still had
five other inspections that needed to be done for the fence.
MR. KELLY: Okay, thank you.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any other questions?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do I hear a motion?
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Move to accept the stipulation as
suggested, provided.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do I hear a second?
MR. PONTE: I'll second.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
MR. PONTE: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any nays?
(No response.)
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CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Motion passes.
Now we're going to move on to hearings. BCC versus James
Patrick and Laura Guerrero.
MR. LARSEN: Mr. Chairman, I must recuse myself on this
matter because of a conflict of interest.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay, very good. There is
paperwork you'll have to fill out.
MR. LARSEN: I already have. I shall hand it over to madam
reporter.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: If I can have the investigator step
forward?
Are they working on the stipulated agreement?
MR. PONTE: I'm a little lost. Which case is this?
MR. KRAENBRING: Guerrero.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Patrick and --
MR. PONTE: Guerrero?
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: It's kind of in the middle.
MR. KRAENBRING: It's our only hearing left. Everything else
was stipulated.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Is the respondent outside?
MS. PEREZ: No, no, this isn't my stipulation. So I got confused.
No, the respondent is not present today.
(Speaker was duly sworn.)
MS. PEREZ: Good morning. Again for the record, Cristina
Perez, Collier County Code Enforcement.
MS. WALDRON: This is in reference to Department Case No.
CESD20080008804, BCC versus James Patrick and Laura S.
Guerrero.
F or the record, the respondent and the board were sent a packet
of evidence and we would like to enter the packet of evidence as
Exhibit A. .
MR. KRAENBRING: Make a motion to accept the packet.
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CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do I hear a second?
MR. KELLY: Second.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
MR. PONTE: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MS. WALDRON: Violation of Ordinance 04-41 of the Collier
County Land Development Code, Sections 10.02.06 (B)(l)(a), and
10.02.06 (B)(l)( ei).
Description of violation: Mobile home/modular home placed at
location in question without first obtaining the required building
permit.
Location/address where violation exists: 1965 Platt Road,
Naples, Florida.
Name and address of owner/person in charge of violation
location: James Patrick and Laura S. Guerrero, 2038 Fairmont Lane,
Naples, Florida, 34120.
Date violation first observed: July 30th, 2008.
Date owner/person in charge given notice of violation: October
1st, 2008.
Date on/by which violation to be corrected: November 1 st, 2008.
Date of reinspection: November 24th, 2008.
Results of reinspection: Violations remain. No permit has been
applied for and obtained.
At this time, I would like to present Supervisor Cristina Perez.
MS. PEREZ: A complaint was received regarding a house that
was built with no permits on this property.
Upon a site visit, I found that there was a mobile home. The
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respondent addressed this as a modular home. So mobile
home/modular home type structure on said property.
After research was conducted, I found that the property owner
had applied for a building permit and was denied and no further action
had been taken.
So he put the structure on the property, applied for the permit,
but the permit was denied due to verbiage on the blueprints that didn't
qualify for the zone that this property is located in.
So I made contact with the respondent, James Patrick Guerrero.
We set up a meeting to meet at the location where the violation exists.
I served him the notice of violation, we reviewed it. I gave him a copy.
After several conversations and attempts from the property
owner to determine from other departments what his options were to
be able to obtain the permit for the structure, the permit was not
reissued and the case was prepared for today's hearing.
I did have a meeting with Mr. Guerrero at the engineering
department in regards to other issues on his property that he wants to
do, but I took him over to the permit department and we spoke with
someone in structural review to determine what direction he needed to
take on this permit, to get the permit approved.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: These meetings, when did they
occur?
MS. PEREZ: This -- I don't know the exact date of this last
meeting that we had with the engineering department, but it was this
month of January.
MR. KAUFMAN: Is the property occupied?
MS. PEREZ: No. It doesn't have electricity, it doesn't have
water, it's just a structure placed on the property.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any other questions of the board?
(No response.)
MR. KRAENBRING: The respondent was notified. He's not
here. He's been working with you?
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MS. PEREZ: Yeah. His thing was he has a 20-acre parcel on ago
property and he had other avenues that he wanted to attempt to use his
property for, and that's where this structure came into place.
And that's something that's going to take him a very long time to
try to achieve. So his direction that we got from structural and
permitting, in order for him to be able to keep this structure on the
property, he would have to have it permitted as a single-family
residential home.
MR. KRAENBRING: Without lack of other testimony from the
respondent, I would make a motion that a violation does exist.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do I hear a second?
MR. DEAN: I'll second the motion.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any discussion?
MR. PONTE: Yeah, just a couple of questions.
Is the mobile home secure? Is it locked up? Is it --
MS. PEREZ: Yes. And there is also a fence around the property.
MR. PONTE: Okay, thank you.
MR. KELLY: Do you have any photos?
MS. PEREZ: Yes.
MR. KELLY: Is it okay if we --
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: We probably should ask -- those
should have been entered previously.
MR. KELLY: It helps to get a visual.
MS. PEREZ: Yes, sir.
MR. KELLY: I know that that will help to go towards a time
frame if a violation is found.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Jean, at this point?
MS. RAWSON: She can amend it and add additional exhibits,
that's not a problem.
MS. PEREZ: Okay. So I would like to present into case
evidence the following exhibit, which is Exhibit B, pictures, B-1 and
B-2.
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CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do we need to take the current
motions off the table?
MS. RAWSON: No. You don't have a motion -- well, you do.
You have a motion for violation.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Right.
MS. RAWSON: Okay. Yes. Ifwe're still going to hear evidence,
then why don't you withdraw those motions --
MR. KRAENBRING: I'll withdraw the motion.
MR. DEAN: I'll withdraw the second.
MR. KELLY: And I'll make a motion to accept Exhibit B.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Thank you. And do I hear a second?
MR. KRAENBRING: Second.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
MR. PONTE: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Sorry about that.
MR. LARSEN: Two photos total?
MS. PEREZ: Yes, sir.
MR. KELLY: Investigator Perez, the county said that because
this was longer than a certain period of time it could not be considered
a construction trailer?
MS. PEREZ: His initial intention to submitting it for -- as a
construction trailer was -- I believe he wanted to do an excavation
project on the property. So this was going to be a construction trailer.
When he submitted the permits, the permits does say it's a
construction on the top and it has office spaces instead of bedroom
space.
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We then reviewed the permit again this January with structural
and permitting, and after he had his meeting with the engineering
department and they eXplained what process he would have to take to
be able to do such a project, he's steering away from that for now
because it's not something that he could do at this point.
So from what we spoke to permitting and structural, he has to
revise those plans and make them read that it's a residential mobile
home or modular home -- he describes it as a modular home -- that he
would have to revise those plans, you know, to show instead of office,
bedroom and et cetera. It has the kitchen, it has bathrooms, but --
MR. KELLY: I'll support a motion.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do I hear a second?
MR. KELLY: Well, I didn't actually make it. I was just stating
that --
MR. KRAENBRING: I'll just reiterate, I'll make a motion that a
violation does exist.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: And the second?
MR. DEAN: I'll second that motion.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any further discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
MR. PONTE: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any nays?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Motion passes.
County recommendation, please?
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MS. PEREZ: County's recommendation is that the board order
the respondent to pay the operational costs in the amount of -- I wrote
it down on the other document. I'm sorry -- $86.71 incurred in the
prosecution of this case within 30 days of this hearing and abate all
violations by: Applying for and obtaining a Collier County building
permit for such improvements or demolition permit, all required
inspections and C.O., or remove mobile home/modular home to
restore property to its original state within X amount of days of this
hearing and a fine amount of X amount per day will be imposed until
the violation has been abated.
If the respondent fails to abate the violation, the county may
abate the violation and may use the assistance of the Collier County
Sheriffs Office to enforce the provisions of this order.
The respondent must notify the code enforcement investigator
when the violation has been abated in order to conduct a final
inspection to confirm abatement.
MR. KRAENBRING: I have a question. X amount and X days.
MR. KELLY: The County started doing that to help give us a
guideline. We have to fill in the X. That's our variable.
MR. KRAENBRING: Okay.
MR. PONTE: Ninety and 100.
MR. KRAENBRING: I mean, not going out to see this property,
not knowing what they're going to be going through to get permits, we
used to have some guidelines from the county recommendations. Do
we have a sense of that?
MS. PEREZ: I do have the guidelines that the county has used in
the past, but, you know, I --
MR. KELLY: The County's trying not to be prejudice.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: What avenue is he currently taking?
And how long would that take?
MS. PEREZ: I don't know how long it would take, but I know
that the county did give him back the blueprints so that he could take
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those blueprints and get them revised, versus having to hire a new
engineer to redo the whole blueprints. So he was going to take those
back to get them revised and then try to resubmit.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: So he's going to try to resubmit it as
a single-family residence?
MS. PEREZ: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: And how long -- you don't know
how long that usually takes?
MR. KRAENBRING: And no one's living in this --
MS. PEREZ: No.
MR. KRAENBRING: -- property right now --
MS. PEREZ: It's not connected to utilities.
MR. KRAENBRING: -- and it's not a health or safety issue?
MS. PEREZ: No.
MR. KRAENBRING: Half a year?
MR. PONTE: I make a motion for 90 days. Half a year? They
built the Empire State Building in one year.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do I hear a second?
MR. DEAN: I'll second the motion.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: For 90 days.
Mr. Kelly?
MR. KELLY: Just a quick discussion.
Not only does he have to actually get the permit, but then he has
to get the C.O. And without there being any plumbing or electric there
now, that would all have to be run.
I think 90 days might be just a little tight to get done I believe
what needs to be done here. That's my only comment, that's all.
MR. KRAENBRING: I would agree, I think that, you know,
we're looking at half a year, we're looking at six months for this thing
to get through the process and get it done. Otherwise we're going to be
hearing it again.
MR. DEAN: So I just -- one comment is so I bring a trailer on a
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property and I get six months or a year to figure out what I want to do.
I mean, you give them 90 days, you get something stirring so we
know what's going on. And our guidelines for fines is right here. So I
still go with the 90 days.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay. We have a first and a second.
All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
MR. PONTE: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any nays?
(No response.)
MS. PEREZ: Just for clarification, can you tell me what is the
amount per day?
MR. KELLY: It was 90 days and $100 per day. Right, George?
MR. PONTE: That's correct.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Thank you very much.
MS. PEREZ: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do you want to take a few minute
break?
Let's come back in about 10 minutes.
(Recess.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: I'd like to call the meeting back to
order. And we're going to move on to old business.
I'm on now. Very good. We're going to move on to old business.
Motion for imposition of fines. Juan Hernandez and Adrianna Garcia.
Are they present?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Usually we just -- it's on the consent
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agenda, right?
MR. KELLY: No.
MS. WALDRON: No.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay.
Could I have the investigator speak.
(Speaker was duly sworn.)
MS. WALDRON: This is in reference to Code Enforcement
Case No. 2006081209.
F or the record, the respondent is not present.
On July 31st, 2008, the Code Enforcement Board issued a
finding of fact, conclusion of law and order, and that order is attached
for your review.
The respondent was found in violation, and the respondent has
not complied with the board's orders from July 31 st, 2008.
At this time, the county is recommending imposing a lien for the
fine at a rate of $200 per day for the period between November 29th,
2008 to January 22nd, 2009 for a total of 55 days in the amount of
$11,000.
Operational costs of 88.43 have not been paid.
The total requested lien amount would be $11,000 -- $11,088.43.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All right. Has any work been done at
all? And when's the last time you were there?
MS. SCAVONE: The last time I was there was yesterday. And
they did pull a permit for -- it was approved in 2007. However, it was
canceled September, 2008. It was never issued because they were not
able to pay the operational costs.
MS. WALDRON: Can I just clarify, too, on -- the operational
costs were 87.44, not 88.43. Which would make the total lien amount
11,087.44. Correction.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: When's the last time you had contact
with them?
MS. SCAVONE: It was before the CEB hearing. And I have not
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had any contact since. And the last time I did speak with him that he
stated was losing the house and that's why he couldn't pay for the fee
for the permit itself.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay. Any other questions of the
board?
MR. KELLY: Mr. Chair?
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Yes.
MR. KELLY: Just a clarification. The case number on the top of
the request for an imposition of fine is actually for the next case on our
agenda which has already been heard. This case number is
2006081209.
And on that, I'll make a motion that we impose the fines,
$11,087.44.
MR. KRAENBRING: I'll second.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
MR. PONTE: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any nays?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Motion passes.
MS. SCAVONE: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: We're going to move on to the next
one, which will be BCC versus Vanderbilt Devco, LLC.
MS. WALDRON: And Mr. Chairman, if I can make a request on
this one also. I know that the county and the respondent have been
talking and they are talking about a continuance, so rather than me go
through the whole thing, maybe you want to hear from their testimony
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first.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay.
(Speakers were duly sworn.)
MR. V ARSAMES: My name is John Varsames. I live in Naples
and I represent Vanderbilt Devco.
The remediation plan that was stipulated to has been completed.
The inspection is scheduled for tomorrow afternoon at 2:00. So we ask
for a continuation to determine if it will be any fines whatsoever.
MR. KELLY: Mr. Chair?
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Go ahead.
MR. KELLY: May I recommend, rather than filing a
continuance if we could simply ask the county to stay this
recommendation until next month. And if the inspection goes through
and it's passed, we won't need to hear this.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: How much time did -- I'm just trying
to -- when were they supposed to come into compliance again? March
30th of last year; is that correct?
MS. O'FARRELL: He was supposed to come into compliance --
let me see, I've got it right here -- for the mitigation plan as of 5/28/08.
For the record, Susan O'Farrell, Collier County Investigator.
He was supposed to come into compliance with the mitigation
plan as of 5/28/08, and he was ordered to install the plants -- well, the
stipulation where he agreed to install the plants within 120 days,
which would have been September 26th of '08.
And when I did the inspection, apparently I inspected the wrong
part of his property. So that's why I'd like to have a stay to give him 30
days -- well, for us to do the -- another inspection.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay.
MR. KRAENBRING: Jean, the county needs to withdraw this, is
that --
MS. RAWSON: Yes. We don't need to have a continuance, or
even a stay.
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If you just simply remove it from the docket, Jen, then you can
put it back on the agenda for next month and we can see where we are.
Or maybe you won't need to.
MS. O'FARRELL: Well, ifhe's come into compliance, he'll still
need the imposition of --
MS. WALDRON: I believe we'll still need to do the imposition
of fines hearing, because he is out of his compliance date.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Correct.
MS. WALDRON: But we'd rather have the current information
when we come back to you.
MS. RAWSON: Correct. And then at that time he has the right
for his own motion.
MS. O'FARRELL: I've explained to the representative ofDevco
-- because I can't pronounce his last name.
MR. V ARSAMES: Varsames.
MS. O'FARRELL: And I've explained to him the process of the
imposition of fines and also the process for the reduction of fines. So I
think he's going to be aware of what he needs to do.
MR. KRAENBRING: So the county will be --
MS. WALDRON: The county will make a request to withdraw
this case and bring it at a further hearing date.
MR. KELLY: Mr. Chairman, I make a motion to amend the
agenda.
MR. KRAENBRING: Second.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
MR. PONTE: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
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CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Thank you.
Next one will be BCC versus Tereso Bautista and Emiliana
Vasquez.
(Speaker was duly sworn.)
MS. WALDRON: This is in reference to Code Enforcement
Case No. 2006100651.
F or the record, the respondent is not present.
On April 24th, 2008, the Code Enforcement Board issued a
finding of fact, conclusion of law and order, and that order is attached
for your review.
The respondent was found in violation and the respondent has
not complied with the board's orders from April 24th, 2008.
At this time, the county is recommending imposing a lien for the
fine at a rate of $200 per day for the period between June 24th, 2008
to January 22nd, 2009 for a total of212 days in the amount of
$42,400.
Operational costs in the amount of $88.43 have not been paid.
The total requested lien amount is $42,803.77.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: What is that amount, once again?
How much is the fine amount?
MS. WALDRON: $42,400.
MR. KELLY: How much is the op. cost?
MS. WALDRON: 403.77.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: You said it was 88.43 before.
MR. DEAN: She said 42,803.77.
MR. KELLY: She said the wrong op. cost, but then totaled it
correctly.
MS. WALDRON: It's 403.77 for op. cost.
MR. KELLY: Investigator, when's the last time you checked to
see if there was a permit pulled or anything?
MR. BALDWIN: For the record, Patrick Baldwin, Collier
County Code Enforcement Investigator.
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I just checked just this morning. No permit has been pulled. And
I was there yesterday, the property is still vacant.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any other discussion from the
board?
MR. KRAENBRING: Make a motion that we impose the fine.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do I hear a second?
MR. PONTE: I'll second.
CHAIRMAN STRAIN: All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
MR. PONTE: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any nays?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Motion passes.
Next case will be BCC versus William and Laura Mara.
(Speaker was duly sworn.)
MS. WALDRON: This is in reference to Code Enforcement
Case No. CESD20080004753.
F or the record, the respondent is not present.
On August 22nd, 2008, the Code Enforcement Board issued a
finding of fact, conclusion of law and order, and that order is attached
for your review.
The respondent was found in violation, and the respondent has
not complied with the board's orders from August 22nd, 2008.
At this time, the county is recommending imposing a lien for the
fine at a rate of $200 per day for the period between November 21 st,
2008, to January 22nd, 2009, for a total of 63 days in the amount of
$12,600.
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Operational costs of $88.1 0 have not been paid.
The total requested lien amount is $12,688.10.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Investigator? What is the -- when
was the last time you were there?
MR. MARTINDALE: The last time I made a visit was
approximately 31 st of December of last year.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay. And was any work done on
the property to correct the violation?
MR. MARTINDALE: The rear lanai was enclosed. I do have a
picture, if you'd like to look.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: We're not here to hear testimony.
Was that shown during the case?
MR. MARTINDALE: This would be at the updated photos.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: The updated photos, okay. ,
MR. MARTINDALE: Basically it's just a closed lanai and they
tore a part of the eight by ten -- or four by eight sheet of plywood off
the back. But that's the limit to what's been done.
I checked records, and a permit was pulled for the demo and
returned about 48 hours ago.
THE COURT REPORTER: May I have your name, please?
MR. MARTINDALE: I'm sorry, for the record, Ronald
Martindale, Code Investigator.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any other questions?
MR. KRAENBRING: I just say that we've had these cases
before. We will impose the fine. Obviously they pulled the permits,
they get the work done and they'll come back for abatement of the fine
once the work is done.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Did you make a motion?
MR. KRAENBRING: I'll make a motion we impose the fine.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do I hear a second?
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Second.
MR. DEAN: I'll second the motion.
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CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
MR. PONTE: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any nays?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Motion passes. Thank you very
much.
MR. MARTINDALE: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Next case will be BCC versus J.
Peaceful, L.C.
(Speakers were duly sworn.)
MS. WALDRON: And there are some updates here to your
executive summary on this one as they've come into compliance.
This is in reference to Code Enforcement Case No. 2007060387.
F or the record, the respondent is present.
On March 27th, 2008, the Code Enforcement Board issued a
finding of fact, conclusion of law and order, and that order is attached
for your review.
The respondent was found in violation and the respondent has
complied with the board's orders from August 22nd, 2008.
At this time, the county is recommending imposing a lien for the
fine at a rate of$150 per day for the period between May 27th, 2008
to January 16th, 2009 for a total of 235 days in the amount of $35,250.
Operational costs of398.70 have not -- have been paid.
The total requested lien amount is $35,250.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: When did it come into compliance?
MR. SNOW: On January 16th of this year, sir.
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CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Is that why the change is from
36,150 to 35, 150?
MS. WALDRON: That's correct.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Thank you.
Any questions?
MR. KRAENBRING: Without rehearing the entire case, what
was the crux of this? I just can't recall it.
MR. SNOW: Sir, it was a sign without a permit. And just let me
-- for the board, if I could have a moment of your time.
I have been in contact with the respondents from time to time.
And this was a case where the business was under extreme financial
burden, as we all know the estate of the economy. And during my
conversations with them, they would have rather kept employees than
get the sign. He understood, his wife understood what the situation
was.
I did check this morning, and there is tax issues on the property
that haven't been made, so it's not that these folks didn't want to come
into compliance. It was the fact that they couldn't come into
compliance. They did what they -- when they got the receipt that they
were going to go to court again, he gave you his word here in the
courtroom that it would be done before he came back to you, and he
did do that.
I just -- the county would recommend obviously follow anything
this board would recommend. But there's extreme financial burden on
this property. And this is not the only problem they have, but they
have tried to comply.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Go ahead, ma'am, if you'd like to
speak.
MS. CHAMI: I'm representing my husband. He went to see his
mom, who's sick.
And like Mr. Snow said, we are struggling a lot. We're trying to
keep the business running and the employee, the salary paid on time.
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So we made it. The moment we were able to make it, we made
it. So we're asking if we can be -- going without the fee, not paying
this. The fine.
MR. KRAENBRING: It's a dry cleaning business?
MS. CHAMI: We have a dry cleaning business, we have a post
office business inside, and a little bit of everything.
MR. KRAENBRING: And as I remember, if I may, that they
had some issues with getting the sign replaced. Possibly because the
company was not in business any longer or--
MS. CHAMI: One company was not -- I cannot answer all your
questions, unfortunately. I work at the post office. But I know that
there was a problem with the signage. And we --
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: It was a very detailed sign. I think it
was going to be expensive --
MS. CHAMI: It was detailed--
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: -- to replace it exactly as is versus a
regular sign.
MR. SNOW: That is correct. That is correct, you're right.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: I happened to go to there once --
MR. KRAENBRING: So again, they are in compliance?
MR. SNOW: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: You'll make a motion?
MR. KRAENBRING: I'll make a motion that we abate the fine.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do I hear a second?
MR. KELLY: Second.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
MR. PONTE: Aye.
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MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. DEAN: What's the operational costs?
MR. KELLY: Already been paid.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Has been paid, 398.70.
MR. DEAN: Okay.
MR. SNOW: Yes, sir.
For the record before we go, I would like to thank Mr. Ponte for
his service to this board. I appeared numerous times before this board
and he always had a voice of reasoning, and I for one will certainly
miss him.
MR. PONTE: Thank you very much.
MR. SNOW: I wish you very good luck, sir.
MS. CHAMI: Thank you very much.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: The fine has been abated.
THE COURT REPORTER: May I have your name, please?
MS. CHAMI: Lamia. L-A-M-I-A. Last name Chami.
C-H-A-M-I.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: And the next one will be a motion
for reduction/abatement of fines. BCC versus Jamie Lam and Don
Lee.
(Speakers were duly sworn.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Explain why you'd like to have -- do
you have to --
MS. WALDRON: Just one note, that we never -- we haven't
imposed any fines on this property, but fines were accruing, so he's
here to ask that we basically not impose the fines at this time.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay. Has the -- has he come into
compliance?
MS. WALDRON: He has.
MS. O'FARRELL: Yes, the property is in compliance. He and
his wife have been in constant contact with me. They had some
troubles with standing water, which is why they weren't able to get it
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in on time.
So I definitely ask that no fines be assessed.
For the record, Susan O'Farrell, Collier County Investigator.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: That's my job, to keep you in check,
and I haven't.
MR. KELLY: Mr. Chair? I have a question about procedure. If
no fines were imposed, do we have anything to do? Or is it just up to
county not to ever bring the imposition of fines to us?
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: That's a good question.
Jean?
MS. RAWSON: I'm looking to see when he was supposed to be
in compliance.
MS. WALDRON: It's one of those orders that has multiple--
MS. RAWSON: Right. He had to do a mitigation plan within
120 days.
MS. WALDRON: And he had a mitigation plan to be submitted
by January 29th, 2008, and 120 days from acceptance of mitigation
plan to install the plantings.
MS. RAWSON: Well, they're not asking that any fines be
imposed. That's an interesting theory. Ifhe's in compliance and we
haven't yet imposed fines and he met the deadline, you don't need to
abate them.
MR. KRAENBRING: So this case should be just withdrawn
from the agenda?
MS. RAWSON: Probably.
MS . WALDRON: Yeah, for clarification, the fines have been --
were running on this property, so the county can't just say the fines are
gone, you know.
MS. RAWSON: The fines are running on the property--
MS. WALDRON: The fines were running until he came into
compliance. So he did have fines. We just have not imposed the fines
at this time.
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MS. RAWSON: Okay. Well, in that case, yes, you need to enter
an order.
MR. KRAENBRING: So in effect, though, shouldn't this be--
we should have heard that the fines be imposed and then abated? I'm a
little lost on the procedure here.
MS. RAWSON : Well, what happens is we record these orders
right away, and if a deadline is missed, the fines start running. We just
don't have an order imposing them. That doesn't mean they're not
running on a daily basis.
MR. KRAENBRING: So do we need to impose the fine and .
then from the county's recommendation remove it? I don't know if it's
a legal procedure.
MS. RAWSON: I think you can simply abate all the fines.
MR. DEAN: Abate. I agree.
MR. KELLY: To follow up on that question, procedurally from
here on, for all cases, we may as a board not see cases that come into
compliance just slightly after deadlines and county takes it upon
themselves to just, you know, close out the case. And they never bring
any imposition to us. Would that be a similar situation where -- or do
you have to --
MS. WALDRON: Any time a fine is assessed on a property, if
they're out of their compliance date, we bring it forward to you,
because we don't have the authority to change your order.
MS. RAWSON: That's correct.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: That's it, okay.
MR. KELLY: That's the question I was looking for.
MS. RAWSON: So whether you've actually entered an order
imposing fines or not doesn't mean the fines are not running.
MR. LARSEN: Right. So I think what we need to do is make a
motion to abate the accrual of the fines.
MR. DEAN: I agree.
MR. KRAENBRING: Let's keep it as simple as possible.
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MR. LARSEN: So I make the motion to abate the accrual of the
fines.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Second.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All those in -- any discussion, first
of all?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
MR. PONTE: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Motion passes.
MR. KELLY: Thank you.
MS. O'FARRELL: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any new business?
MS. WALDRON: I don't know where the question about the
rules and regulations -- talk about that now?
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Go ahead.
MS. WALDRON: I have a request that any of the board
members review the current rules and regulations. If you have any
suggestions or changes that you would like to be made, if you could
bring them back to the next meeting to discuss.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay. Do you want --
MR. DEAN: I'm sorry.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do you want to see about setting up
a workshop? Do you think that's --
MS. WALDRON: If you guys would like a workshop, we can
do that.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do you want to do a workshop and
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mince up the --
MR. DEAN: Workshops are good. I mean, it's very helpful and
we have new members, so it's always an excellent idea to do it.
MR. KELLY: Two points. One, I would love to see our current
rules so we could start looking at them. If you could e-mail them, they
would be wonderful.
MS. WALDRON: Sure.
MR. KELLY: And two, there was still an issue I think that was
just kind of looked over until our next review process, which this may
be it, Mr. Chairman, about the consent agenda and imposition of fines.
Or do we keep that under old business? And so far we've been keeping
it under old business, even though I think technically it says
somewhere in the rules that they're supposed to be under the consent
agenda. So maybe we should clarify that for future.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Yeah, I thought that's the way it was
supposed to work also. And whoever was here, we would pull them
from the consent agenda. I thought that was the discussion we had.
MR. KELLY: Well, there was also discussion that there might
be situations where respondents were to come to the meeting late, not
have an opportunity to have that pulled from the consent and then
we'd have to go back to the original, undo the approval of the entire
agenda, pull theirs from the agenda and bring it up. So we've been
leaving it under old business. Maybe we should talk about that more in
detail.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay. Would anyone--
MS. RAWSON: Also, the March meeting is your business
meeting, annual business meeting where you elect your chair and
vice-chair.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do we want to set up a meeting
between now and -- a workshop?
MS. WALDRON: I can -- I'll e-mail everyone and see when is a
good time frame for people to get together to maybe --
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CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Maybe sometime next month before
our next meeting.
MS. RAWSON: I think last time didn't we do it after the
meeting? And I think that worked fine.
MR. DEAN : Yeah, I do, too. Because we're here.
MS. RAWSON: Because then everybody's got it on your
calendar. And we just had it immediately following.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Want to plan for next -- for
February, next meeting?
MS. WALDRON: Sure.
MR. DEAN: February or March, either one.
MS. RAWSON: And my guess is that we'll probably have to go
back to code enforcement, because I'm sure they don't want us to stay
in here all day.
MS. WALDRON: We've got the room all day.
MS. RAWSON: Okay.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay. So ifno one objects to next
month, we'll plan on a workshop after and it will probably be at the
Horseshoe Drive location.
MR. KRAENBRING: But we'll be here for the meeting.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: We'll be here.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Oh, we'll be here for the meeting
and then go over to Horseshoe?
MR. LARSEN: No, no --
MS. WALDRON: No, we just stay here.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay.
All right.
MR. KELLY: I'll waive notice.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: I won't. You better notify me.
MR. PONTE: I'll be watching it on television.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: George, do you waive notice?
MR. PONTE: I'll watch it on television.
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CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Okay, we're going to move on.
I guess the consent agenda, we're going to pass over that.
Request to forward cases to county attorney's office.
MR. KELLY: Already done.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Any reports?
MS. FLAGG: Let me just offer a couple of things, first. I'd like
to -- Diane Flagg, for the record -- thank Mr. Ponte for his service to
the Code Enforcement Board.
MR. PONTE: Thank you very much.
MS. FLAGG: It's been very much appreciated and you will be
missed.
Secondly, I just wanted to let the board know that the voluntary
compliance of our community members has increased as a result of
the approach that the investigators are utilizing when they're notifying
our community members of a violation. They're approaching them
from a meet and greet perspective, letting them knowing what the.
concerns are, rather than immediately issuing a notice of violation.
And consequently they're finding that when they go back after a
week, that compliance has already been achieved. So then it's noted.
The second thing is that there will be a report to the BCC, the
Board of County Commissioners, next Tuesday. That will be a report
on how code enforcement department is handling the lis pendens and
foreclosures in Collier County.
I will tell you that we've put together a foreclosure team and a
process for handling properties where we verify whether the property
up front is in a lis pendens or foreclosure status or if it's owner
occupied.
If it is in lis pendens or foreclosure status, it goes to the
foreclosure folks who have established very good relationships with
the banks. And right now we have 100 percent compliance by the
banks.
Not only do we have 100 percent compliance, but the banks are
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giving us turnarounds within 48 or 72 hours of notification.
And what they're doing, quite a few of them, I think we're
working with 33 different banks right now. What the banks are doing
is hiring in some cases national servicing companies, and then those
servicing companies are hiring our local contractors and subbing out
the work.
So it's a system that we actually started in November and it's
been extremely successful. So we'll be providing more details to the
board on Tuesday, but I wanted to let you know about that.
MR. DEAN: Very good.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Thank you.
Any other comments?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Next meeting date will be February
26th, 2009.
And do I hear a motion to adjourn?
MR. DEAN: Motion to adjourn.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Do I hear a second?
MR. PONTE: I'll second.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: All those in favor?
MR. KRAENBRING: Aye.
MR. DEAN: Aye.
MR. KELLY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. LARSEN: Aye.
MR. PONTE: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LEFEBVRE: Motion passes.
That's a motion that's never denied.
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There being no further business for the good of the County, the
meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 11 :03 a.m.
CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD
GERALD LEFEBVRE, Chairman
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inured to my special private gain or loss;
inured to the special gain or loss of my business associate, ______________________;
inured to the special gain or loss of my relative, _________________________________________;
inuredtothespecialgainorlosso~____________________________________________________________, by
whom I am retained; or
inured to the special gain or loss of ________________________________________________, which
is the parent organization or subsidiary of a principal which has retained me.
(b) The measure before my agency and the nature of my conflicting interest in the measure is as follows:
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NOTICE: UNDER PROVISIONS OF FLORIDA STATUTES 9112.317, A FAILURE TO MAKE ANY REQUIRED DISCLOSURE
CONSTITUTES GROUNDS FOR AND MAY BE PUNISHED BY ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING: IMPEACHMENT,
REMOVAL OR SUSPENSION FROM OFFICE OR EMPLOYMENT, DEMOTION, REDUCTION IN SALARY, REPRIMAND, OR A
CIVIL PENALTY NOT TO EXCEED $10,000.
CE FORM 8B - EFF. 1/2000
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