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January 7, 2009
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Naples, Florida, January 7,2009
LET IT BE REMEMBERED that the Collier County Development Services
Advisory Committee, in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business
herein, met on this date at 3:30 P.M. in REGULAR SESSION in Conference
Room #610 in the Collier County Community Development and Environmental
Services Center, 2800 N. Horseshoe Drive, Naples, Florida, with the following
members present:
CHAIRMAN: William Varian
Charles Abbott
James Boughton (Absent)
Clay Brooker
Laura Spurgeon Dejohn
Dalas Disney
David Dunnavant
Marco Espinar (Absent)
Blair Foley
George Hermanson
Reed Jarvi
Thomas Masters
Robert Mulhere
Reid Schermer
Mario Valle (Excused)
ALSO PRESENT: Joe Schmitt, Administrator, CDES
Judy Puig, Operations Analyst, CDES, Staff Liaison
Catherine Fabacher, LDC Manager, Zoning & Land Development
Phil Gramatges, Interim Director, Public Utilities
Nick Casalanguida, Director, Transportation/Planning
Bob Dunn, Director, Bldg. Review & Permitting
Gary Mullee, CDES, Operations Support Manager, Budget Manager
Ed Riley, Fire Code Official
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DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE
AGENDA
January 7,2009
3:30 p.m.
Conference Room 610
NOTICE:
Persons wishing to speak on any Agenda item will receive up to three (3) minutes unless the Chairman adjusts
the time. Speakers are required to fill out a "Speaker Request Form," list the topic they wish to address, and
hand it to the Staff member seated at the table before the meeting begins. Please wait to be recognized by the
Chairman, and speak into a microphone. State your name and affiliation before commenting. During
discussion, Committee Members may direct questions to the speaker.
Please silence cell phones and digital devices. There may not be a break in this meeting. Please leave the room
to conduct any personal business. All parties participating in the public meeting are to observe Roberts Rules
of Order, and wait to be recognized by the Chairman. Please speak one at a time and into the microphone so the
Hearing Reporter can record all statements being made.
I. Call to order - Chairman
II. Approval of Agenda
III. Approval of Minutes from December 3, 2008 Meeting
IV. Staff Announcements/Updates
A. CDES Update - Joe Schmitt
. Discuss possible work hour reduction
. Review times - Building and Planning
. Budget
B. Transportation Division Update - Nick Casalanguida
C. Public Utilities Division Update - Phil Gramatges
D. Fire Review Update - Ed Riley
V. Old Business
A. Road Impact Fee Comparison chart - Nick C.
B. Dates for LDC 2009 Cycle - see attached executive summary w/proposed dates discussed at the December 2,
2008 BCC meeting (item 16A8)
C. Review of DSAC municipal code (functions, powers and duties) regarding future agenda items
VI. New Business
A. Chairman and Vice Chairman for 2009
B. Time change for meetings
VII. Public Speakers
VIII. Committee Member Comments
IX. Adjourn
Next Meetina Dates
February 4,2009 CDES Conference Room 610 - 3:30 pm
March 4, 2009 CDES Conference Room 610 - 3:30 pm
April 1, 2009 CDES Conference Room 610 - 3:30 pm
January 7, 2009
I. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 3:35 PM by Chairman William Varian and a
quorum was established.
Chairman Varian read the procedures to be followed during the Meeting.
II. Approval of Agenda
Tom Masters moved to approve the Agenda. Second by Robert Mulhere. Carried
unanimously, 9-0.
III. Approval of Minutes - Decemher 3, 2008 Meeting
The following correction was suggested:
On Page 3, the CBIA lawsuit may not have been filed in Court.
Reed Jarvi moved to approve the Minutes of the December 3,2008 Meeting as
amended. Second by Reid Schermer. Carried unanimously, 9-0.
IV. Staff Announcements/Updates
A. CDES Update - Joe Schmitt, Administrator
. Work hour reductions may be necessary due to insufficient revenue
. Voluntary early separation has been offered - waiting for response
. Most economical option: 4-day work week (closed on Fridays)
· Option: requesting inspections on Friday - premium cost must be paid
· A copy of the Financial Impact of the Decrease in Fund I3I Activities Report
was distributed to the Committee
Chairman Varian stated the building industry has concerns regarding unpermitted
and/or unlicensed work being done without any supervision during a 3-day weekend
if County closes. Another concern is the closure of the Contractor Licensing
Department.
Joe Schmitt stated he would bring the concerns to James French, CDES Operations
Manager. He stated similar cost-cutting measures will be taken throughout the
County.
(Charles Abbott arrived at 3:40 PM.)
There are four investigators and one supervisor who cover the City of Naples and
Marco Island, as well as the County. He stated he would examine the situation and
suggested DSAC make a recommendation noting the industry's concerns regarding
the degrading of service.
(David Dunnavant arrived at 3:44 PM)
A "hot line" will be installed to facilitate reporting of unlicensed work or unlicensed
Contractors, especially during off hours.
Joe Schmitt outlined the costs CDES is required to pay. Personnel services are
approximately 80% of his costs.
(George Hermanson arrived at 3:47 PM)
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Discussion ensued concerning the "unfreezing" of one position in Contractor
Licensing. A question was asked regarding whether or not there was an increase in
unlicensed activity.
Bob Dunn, Building Director, stated violations have increased and 72 citations were
written in December by only two Staff members due to the holidays.
There was further discussion concerning Fund l3l (Land Use and Permitting) and
Fund l13 (Building Dept.).
Gary Mullee, Budget Manager, stated if the County were closed for one day,
approximately $5,000.00 per month would be saved in electricity costs alone.
Fund ll3 has a slightly better reserve structure but is losing money almost as quickly
as l3l and will be depleted in the near future.
Fund 13l 's revenues are critically low. While Fund 13l technically has $l-M in
reserves, it has $l.8-M worth of commitments which are currently due.
Susan Istenes, stated the type of projects coming into Zoning are primarily small
changes and insubstantial changes that are not revenue generating. The biggest fee
generator in the Zoning Department was plats and plans - plats for single-family
residences. She also stated due to the slowdown in new construction, there are no
plats to review.
Joe Schmitt stated another large expense was the cost to provide verbatim minutes
for the Planning Commission and the Board of County Commissioners. The cost is
$6.00 per page, and most transcripts run between 300 to 400 pages.
He stated he will try to maintain a core competency within CDES, but staff wi]] be
reduced by 20%. While the County was understaffed in 2002, he cannot make
payroll for March, 2009.
There was further discussion concerning allocations, budget line items, and the
proposed 4-day work week and the impact of the shorter work week on inspections.
A suggestion was made to utilize a private provider to conduct inspections. If a time-
specific inspection is ordered from the County for a Friday, a higher premium fee will
be charged.
Discussion continued. A question was asked concerning whether or not the Planning
and Land Use Department was "top heavy." PUD Monitoring and efficiency were
also discussed. Collier County's complicated process was compared to Lee County
which is more streamlined. A suggestion was made to examine the process as well as
Staff. Creating the position of a Hearing Examiner was also suggested as well as
simplifying the Land Development Code.
Chairman Varian summarized:
· Examine repetitiveness of reviews to streamline
· The economy needs the building/remodeling industry to survive - permits for
projects cannot be delayed
· The level of service cannot drop
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Chairman Varian cited George Hermanson's email which was distributed to the
Committee and stated the Committee should draft an LDC Amendment regarding
recommendations to streamline the LDC review process for presentation to the Board
of County Commissioners
B. Transportation Division Update - Nick Casalanguida
· A copy of the Road Impact Fee Rate Comparison Chart was distributed to the
Committee. It will be presented to the Board of County Commissioners on
January 13, 2009. He stated the BCC was given an option to accept the proposed
Study and defer implementation for one year or to reduce Transportation Impact
Fees by 30%.
· He stated the DOT's Consumer/Construction Price Index was recently released
and prices dropped again in December.
· The north section ofCollierNanderbilt Beach Road will be finished by the end of
January, 2009.
· The North Brook Bridge has been completed.
· Working with the DOT regarding modifications to the Immokalee/I-75
Interchange.
· All CEIs (Construction Engineering Inspections) have been brought "in-house"
and will no longer be sub-contracted out. All Collier County Project Managers
will perform the CEIs.
A Committee member stated the combination of declining economy and the high cost
of doing business in Collier County is driving developers out of the area and they
may never return.
There was discussion regarding the figures contained in the Tindale-Oliver Report
versus the roll-back amounts. If calculations were incorrect, exceptions should be
made in specific categories. It was suggested that the 2006 rates were not necessarily
the best choice to use.
It was noted the DSAC Committee previously did not recommend adoption of the
study rates. The Productivity Committee had recommended the 30% roll-back.
A copy of the 2006 Study will be provided to the Committee via email.
Costs were requested for the two new pedestrian bicycle bridges built over the river
tributaries near Vanderbilt Drive and for the two on Golden Gate Parkway near
Golden Gate City (by St. Elizabeth Seton over the canal).
Mr. Casalanguida stated the design of the pedestrian ways was chosen by the
neighborhood MSTU Committees.
Regarding landscaping along Vanderbilt Beach Road: the BCC authorized $1.8 M
for three projects but the estimates submitted totaled $2.8 M. The Board directed new
bids should be requested from the vendors.
C. Public Utilities Division Update - Phil Gramatges
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· Two large projects were completed (expansions ofthe South Water Plant and the
feeding Well field) and will provide approximately l2 M gallons of capacity
· Figures for the 2010 Budget are being compiled
· Revenues were almost 40% less than last month due to lower consumption of
water
A question was asked about a piping connection problem regarding directional bores.
A Utilities reviewer stated "policy" requires the three connections.
Mr. Gramatges asked for specifics of the situation to be emailed to him to research.
D. Fire Review Update - Ed Riley, Fire Code Official
· A written report was submitted to Committee members
· 882 reviews were completed in December
· A tracking software was installed to pinpoint the percentage of contractor
approvals and disapprovals and the problem areas
· A second newsletter containing information based on the statistics compiled by
the tracking software will be distributed
· Classes will be developed to train contractors to increase the approval rates
· Revenues have declined but the department has secure reserves - staff reductions
are not anticipated
V. Old Business
A. Road Impact Fee Comparison Chart - Nick Casalanguida
(See Item IV. - B above)
B. Dates for LDC 2009 Cycle
Catherine Fabacher, LDC Manager, distributed a copy of an Executive Summary
concerning the Cycle.
· The Sign Code is being revised with completion anticipated for February-
March, 2009
· DSAC is "to consider any amendments which the Board deems in the best interest
of business per their discussion on June 24, 2009, that is given conceptual pre-
approval by the BCC before the commencement of the 2009 cycle (March l,
2009)."
· The current procedure is for the issue to be placed on a Consent Agenda in order
to petition the BCC for conceptual approval for addition of an LDC Amendment.
Discussion followed concerning DSAC's powers and duties.
Ms. Fabacher stated the purpose of the LDC was to provide most, not all, of the
answers. Staff is to interpret the Code and when a problem was presented, an appeal
could be made to the BCC for a decision.
Joe Schmitt stated he would inform the BCC (through an Executive Summary or a
memorandum) that additional Amendments will be added to the Cycle Review based
on DSAC's recommendation. It was noted that June l, 2009 is the last day to submit
drafts of proposed Amendments.
The Committee decided to reinstitute the LDR Subcommittee.
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Ms. Fabacher suggested the author(s) present explanations ofthe Amendment(s) to
DSAC during its March, April and May meetings. She also suggested convening the
March, April and May meetings at an earlier time.
There was discussion concerning changes made by the Environmental Advisory
Committee ("EAC") after DSAC had approved an Amendment.
Ms. Fabacher will schedule the Subcommittee's meetings and will present the
proposed schedule at the next DSAC meeting.
C. Review of DSAC Municipal Code
(Postponed)
VI. New Business
A. Election of Chairman and Vice Chairman for 2009
David Dunnavant nominated William Varian to serve as DSAC Chairman for the
2009 term. Second by Reed JarvL Motion carried, "II-Yes," with one abstention.
Mr. Varian abstainedfrom voting.
Robert Mulhere nominated Thomas Masters to service as DSAC Vice Chairman
for the 2009 term. Second by Blair Foley. Motion carried, "II-Yes," with one
abstention. Mr. Thomas abstained from voting.
B. Time Change for Meeting
Chairman Varian suggested moving the meeting time to 3:00 PM.
Judy Puig stated the Operations Staff meets on Wednesdays between l:OO and
3:00 PM. She will notify Mr. Schmitt of the proposed time change.
VII. Public Speakers
(None)
VIII. Committee Member Comments
Clay Brooker suggested revising the Agenda to allow a speaker from the public to be
heard at the beginning ofthe Committee meeting. The item for "Public Speakers" will
follow "Approval of Minutes" in next month's Agenda.
George Hermanson suggested the members should prepare lists of issues for discussion
specific to their disciplines concerning the LDC Amendments.
By consensus, it was decided the LDR Subcommittee should meet in January. Last year,
Subcommittee meetings were held on the 3'd Wednesday of the month (January 28,2009).
Ms. Fabacher will reserve a room and inform the Subcommittee of the time and
location.
Catherine Fabacher stated a "school" for authors of LDC Amendments will begin
in March to teach how to write Amendments and invited the Committee to attend. She
will bring the calendar to the next DSAC meeting.
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DSAC Meeting Dates: February 4, 2009 at 3:00 PM (time change to be confirmed)
March 4, 2009 at 3:00 PM
Aprill, 2009 at 3:00 PM
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was adjourned by
order ofthe Chairman at 5:21 PM.
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES
ADVISORY COMMITTEE
William Varian, Chairman
These Minutes were approved by the Board/Committee on
as presented , or as amended
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