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November 13, 2008
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Naples, Florida, November 13, 2008
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Coastal Advisory
Committee, in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business
Herein, met on this date at 1:00 P.M. in REGULAR SESSION at
Administrative Building "F", 3rd Floor, Collier County Government
Complex Naples, Florida with the following members present:
CHAIRMAN:
VICE CHAIRMAN:
John Sorey, III
Anthony Pires
Murray Hendel
Heidi Kulpa - Resigned
Larry Magel
Ted Forcht
Victor Rios
ALSO PRESENT:
Gary McAlpin, Director, Coastal Zone Management
Colleen Greene, Assistant County Attorney
Gail Hambright, Tourist Tax Coordinator
Michael Bauer, City of Naples Natural Resources Manager
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MEETING AGENDA 8. NOTICE
MEETING AGENDA & NOTICE
COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE (CAC)
THURSOAY, NOVEMBER 13, 2008 - 1:00 P.M.
TURNER BUILDING (Administrative Building F, 3rd Floor Collier County Government Center,
3301 E. Tamiami Trail, Naples)
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I. Call to Order
II. Pledge of Allegiance
III. Roll Call
IV. Changes and Approval of Agenda
V. Public Comments
VI. Approval of CAe Minutes
1. O_c;tQ...b~r 9. 2008
VII. Staff Reports
1. Re.'l..e.n.!.le:Ji~Jl.Qrt-=_ Garv MeAl Din
2. enue_~JlI.t Reoort - Garv McAloin
3. TOe Fundina/ExDendltures for MaL'-o_liliLrHl_~_Gny._McAIDin
4. Trooical Storm FnlFEMA Uodate ~ NaDIe..L._PJir.,k Shore. Vanderbilt. ~O'._M.~AJ.Rin
a. Collier Countv Beach Nourishment Proiect PJl.51.IroDiccal Storm Fav StormB~J;"-QJt
5. Staff Report Wiggins Pass Modeling - Steve Keehn, CPIkE
6. Staff Report Small Volumes Sand Source at Cape Romano - Steve Keehn, CPIlE
VIII. New Business
1. Resolution for Procedures for Coastal Advisorv~_ttt:.tL-::, Garv McAloin
a. ~--..Resolution and Proced.ure for Coastal Advis.on'...t.ommittee
2. Wiaain.5.LP-'oijtors Pass DredGinG - UDdate - Garv Mcil.lRin
IX. Old Business
1. AP.Ju>jntment to-Date Clam Bay' Advisorv Committee
X. Public Comments
XI. Announcements
1. Heidi KulDa's R,~sianation from the CAC
XII. Committee Member Discussion
XIII. Next Meeting Date/Location
December 11, 2008 - Government Center, Administration Bldg. F, 3rd Floor
XIV. Adjournment
All interested parties are invited to attend, and to register to speak and to submit their objections, if any,
in writing, to the board prior to the meeting if applicable.
For more information, please contact Gail D. Hambright at (239) 252-2966.
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If you are a person with a disability who needs any accommodation in order to participate in this
proceeding, you are entitled, at no cost to you, to the provision of certain assistance. Please contact the
Collier County Facilities Management Department located at 3301 East Tamiami Trail, Naples, Fl 34112,
(239) 252-8380.
Public comments will be limited to 5 minutes unless the Chairman grants permission for additional time.
Collier County Ordinance No. 99-22 requires that all lobbyists shall, before engaging in any lobbying
activities (including, but not limited to, addressing the Board of County Commissioners) before the Board
of County Commissioners and its advisory boards, register with the Clerk to the Board at the Board
Minutes and Records Department.
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I. Call to Order
Chairman Sorey called the meeting to order at 1 :OOPM
II. Pledge of Allegiance
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
III. Roll Call
Roll Call was taken with a quorum established.
It was noted former Coastal Advisory Committee member Jim Burke was present in
the audience and has temporarily resigned from the Committee.
IV. Changes and Approval of Agenda
Mr. Pires moved to approve the agenda. Second by Mr. Rios. Carried
unanimously7-0.
V. Public Comments
None.
VI. Approval of CAC Minutes
Mr. Rios moved to approve the minutes subject to the following corrections:
. Page 4, under item 4 paragraph 3, line 2
from "if the PW's are" to "if the PW's (Public Works Work Orders) are"
. Page 5, under Public Speaker, paragraph 2, line 1
From "Mr. McAlpin stated the Beach area referenced is a private beach."
to "Mr. McAlpin stated the Beach area referenccd is a private beach (to the
erosion control line.) "
VII. Staff Reports
I. Revenue Reports - Gary McAlpin
The Council reviewed the document "Tourist Tax Report - FY 2008 - 2009"
dated November 13,2008 (updated through October of2008.)
2. Project Cost Report - Gary McAlpin
Gary McAlpin, Coastal Zone Management Director submitted the document
"FY 2007/2008 TDC Category "A" Beach Maintenance Projects" dated
November 13, 2008 and recommended in the future, this Report be heard on a
quarterly basis.
The Council determined the Report should be submitted to members on a monthly
basis, but reviewed at meetings on a quarterly basis.
Mr. Rios requested Staff to provide to him via email, any related information on
the existing and/or proposed Work Orders for projects on Marco Island.
Mr. Hendel noted the data from the first month of the Fiscal Year indicated a
decline in revenues and recommended the budget and projections be re-examined.
Gary McAlpin noted there is currently a surplus of capital from existing projects
($2M-3M) and the Program can currently meet its anticipated financial
obligations.
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Staffwill provide a Detailed Financial Update upon completion of the I" quarter
of the Fiscal Year at the January 2009 meeting
3. TDC Funding/Expenditures for Marco Island - Gary McAlpin
The Council reviewed the document "Marco Island Revenue and Expense
Analysis Fund 195-Beaches and Inlet Maintenance" dated November 13, 2008.
It was noted the Snapshot is over a 3-year period indicating Fund 195 generated
$3,357,913 of Marco Island Revenue and the County has expended $5,542,314 on
Marco Island Beaches.
4. Tropical Storm Fay/FEMA Update - Naples, Park Shore, Vanderbilt - Gary
McAlpin
a. Collier County Beach Nourishment Project Cost Tropical Storm Fay
Storm Report
The Council reviewed the Executive Summary "Update the CAC on FEMA
funding progress from Tropical Storm Fayfor Naples. Vanderbilt, Park Shore
and Marco Beaches. "
It was noted a Public Work's Work Order will be submitted to FEMA in the
near future for the damage caused by Tropical Storm Fay. The escarpments
on Naples Beach will be taken care of naturally via tidal activity.
5. Staff Report Wiggins Pass Modeling - Steve Keehn, CP&E
Gary McAlpin stated the Modeling Group has narrowed its alternatives for long-
term stabilization of Wiggins Pass to a "desired approach." There is one more
meeting scheduled for the Group at which time a final alternative will be
recommended
Steve Keehn of Coastal Planning and Engineering provided a Power Point
Presentation "Summary of Wiggins Pass Modeling Study" and noted the
following:
. The Goals of the project are to improve navigation in the Pass,
reduce impacts to adjacent shorelines, minimize impacts on the
environment, lengthen the dredge cycle and provide the least
economic impact feasible in choosing an alternative.
. 4 alternatives were considered which is being reduced to a final
alternative.
Discussion ensued regarding how realistic the data assumptions are being used in
the modeling.
Steve Keehn noted the model does incorporate historic data as well as recently
measured data and the software for the modeling does calibrate and merge this
data when developing the parameters for the modeling. This assists the modeling
software in creating "multi year data."
Gary McAlpin noted the modeling software continually updates changing data as
it predicts the morphology of the Pass. Upon further analysis, it predicted the
actual events, which occurred in the Pass I year after dredging.
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Steve Keehn reviewed the details of the 4 alternatives and subsequent
morphology modeling examined by the Discussion Group. He also provided an
analysis of the Decision Matrix being utilized by the Group.
In conclusion alternatives 2 and 3 were found to be the most effective with the
final solution being a combination of the two. The Consultants need to continue
to finalize the modeling and the results will be provided to the Group for a
decision.
Discussion ensued on the Consultants "level of confidence" the final alternative is
"the best way to go" in lengthening the dredge cycle.
Steve Keehn stated the analysis would be available when it has been completed
and a final report is issued.
It was noted no alternative would be a 100 percent guaranteed solution, the only
certainty is the current Dredging Program is not the best alternative.
Gary McAlpin noted the level of confidence should be evaluated in relation to
the individual goals identified by the Group, not just the length of the dredge
cycle.
6. Staff Report Small Volumes Sand Source at Cape Romano - Steve Keehn,
CPE
Update provided:
. The sand source is similar in size to the sand excavated adjacent to
Marco Pass.
. The source is located a considerable distance South of Marco Island
but significantly closer than the T-l Sand Source ofSanibel.
. The goal is to identify a less expensive sand source than the T-l Sand
source which costs $30 CY.
. The County will continue to attempt to obtain approval of the source
from Florida Department of Environmental Protection.
. The National Marine Fisheries is involved with approval of sand
sources regarding satisfying a criterion for the "color of the sand" in
regards to it impacts on Sea Turtle nesting.
. Sea Grass beds are not an issue for this source which is 5-7 miles off-
shore.
New Business
1. Resolution for Procedures for Coastal Advisory Committee - Gary McAlpin
a. Revised Resolution and Procedure for Coastal Advisory Committee
Mr. Pires moved to approve a revision to Resolution 2004-01 to allow a
maximum of 3 minutes when an individual public speaker addresses an
issue. Second by Mr. Magel.
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Mr. Rios expressed concern on limiting a Speaker to 3 minutes as opposed to
5 minutes currently allowed and whether it is ample time to present their
position on an item.
It was noted the Chairman and Committee have the discretion to allow more
time if necessary.
Motion carried 5-2. Mr. Rios and Mr. Forcht voted "no."
2. WigginslDoctors Pass Dredging -Update - Gary McAlpin
The following was noted:
. The necessary permits are in place with no changes or modifications
required.
. The only outstanding item is a "Notice to Proceed."
. The Notice is outstanding, as Contractors have not been selected for
the dredging and related monitoring.
. The contracts are scheduled to be awarded at a December Board of
County Commissioner meeting with the work to begin in January and
completed before Turtle Nesting season.
. The contracts are not subject to Purchase Department Policy for
Consultant Rates and are subject to a bidding process.
IX. Old Business
I. Appointment to Date Clam Bay Advisory Committee
Gary McAlpin noted the recent appointments to the Clam Bay Advisory
Committee are: David Roellig, Kathy Worley, Tahlman Krumm, Jim Carroll and
Robert Rogers.
X. Public Comments
None
XI. Announcements
I. Heidi Kulpa's Resignation from the CAC
The Committee expressed their gratitude for Ms. Kulpa's service.
XII. Committee Member Discussion
Mr. Pires moved that the Coastal Advisory Committee recommends the Board of
County Commissioners aggressively review rates and fees that are established by
the Purchasing Departmentfor Consultants and Professionals under existing
contracts in light of the current economic conditions with any eye toward
reductions and potential rollbacks. Second by Mr. Rios.
Colleen Greene, Assistant County Attorney expressed concern this motion is
outside the scope of the Committee and noted the fees were competitively bid in
compliance with the Purchasing Policy and the Florida Statute for Professional
Services and recommended the Staff address this issue with the County Manager's
Office.
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Chairman Sorey noted the motion expressed a concern of the Committee and a
recommendation for review of the Policy, not for the Coastal Advisory Committee to
exercise any authority in changing the policy.
Motion carried unanimously 7-0.
Mr. Hendel requested clarification on a recent newspaper article, which indicated a
County parking garage improvement, may be under consideration at the end of
Seagate Drive.
Gary McAlpin noted there is no plans by the County to increase parking capacities at
the location at this time.
Next Meeting Date
The next meeting is scheduled for December 11, 2008 - Government Center,
Administration Bldg. F, 3rd Floor
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was
adjourned by order of the chair at 2:37 P.M.
Collier County Coastal Advisory Committee
John Sorey, III, Chairman
These minutes approved by the Board/Committee on
as presented or as amended
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COLLIER COUNTY
COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
RESOLUTION NO. 2008 _01
A RESOLUTION OF THE COLLIER COUNTY COASTAL ADVISORY
COMMITTEE AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. 2004-01, AS IT RELATES
TO THE COMMITTEE'S RULES OF PROCEDURE.
WHEREAS, on February 13,2001, the Board of County Commissioners adopted Ordinance
No. 2001-03, creating the Collier County Coastal Advisory Committee; and
WHEREAS, pursuant to Section Five of Ordinance No. 2001-03, the Coastal Advisory
Committee adopted Resolution 2004-01 which established rules of procedure for the transaction of
business; and
WHEREAS, the Coastal Advisory Committee desires to revise the rules of procedure
adopted through Resolution No. 2004-01 by changing the time granted to speakers from a maximum
of five minutes to a maximum of three minutes.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE COLLIER COUNTY COASTAL
ADVISORY COMMITTEE that:
1. The rules of procedure of the Coastal Advisory Committee attached hereto and incorporated
herein by reference, are hereby approved and re-adopted as amended, by changing the time
granted to speakers from a maximum of five minutes to a maximum of three minutes.
2. Except as modified above, the rules of procedure adopted through Resolution No. 2004-01
shall remain in full force and effect.
3. The attached rules of procedure shall be effective upon adoption of this Resolution.
This Resolution adopted after motion, second and majority vote this 13th day of November,
2008.
COLLIER COUNTY
COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
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le)HN SOREY, CHAIRMAN
COLLIER COUNTY
COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
PROCEDURE FOR COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
November 13, 2008
A. General:
I. Meetings. Regular meetings of the advisory board shall be held on such
day, time and place as may be determined by the advisory board, and at a
minimum of once a month, except for one month in the summer.
2. Quorum and Voting. At all regular or special meetings of the advisory
board, a majority of the membership of the advisory board shall constitute
a quorum. Voting shall be by voice unless a member of the advisory
board requests a roll call. The roll shall be in alphabetical order with the
first name called rotating with each motion upon which the vote is called.
The Chairman shall always vote last. A record of the roll call shall be kept
as part of the minutes.
3. Special Meetings. Special meetings may be called by the Chairman at any
time provided adequate notice is given pursuant to Paragraph 4 below.
The Chairman may also call a special meeting when requested to do so in
writing by a majority of the members of the advisory board or by a County
staff member. The notice of such a meeting shall specify the purpose of
such a meeting and no other business may be considered except by
unanimous consent of the advisory board. All members of the advisory
board shall be notified in advance of such special meetings by the staff
liaison.
4. Notice and Publication. The staff liaison shall give notice and keep record
of such notice of its meetings and the meeting of the subcommittees
including the date, time, and location of each regular and special meeting.
Notice shall be posted in the county administration building and other
appropriate locations as recommended by the advisory board and to the
County Public Information Department for further distribution.
5. Open Meetings. All meetings of the advisory board or its subcommittees
shall be open to the public and governed by the provisions of Florida's
Government in the Sunshine Law.
6. Minutes. The minutes of all meetings shall be promptly recorded, and
such records shall be open to public inspection, in accordance with
applicable law.
7. Location. Meetings of the advisory board, or any of its subcommittees,
shall be held in a location accessible to the public.
8. Meeting Agenda. There shall be an agenda for each meeting of the
advisory board which shall determine the order of business conducted.
The board shall not take action on any matter, proposal, report or item of
business not listed upon the official agenda unless a majority of the board
present consents. Any advisory board member, in the case of an advisory
board or a subcommittee member in the case of a subcommittee, may
place an item on the agenda by submitting it to the Chairman for
forwarding to the staff liaison prior to the deadline for publishing the
notice of such meeting. The Chairman shall determine whether the item
submitted by the board member is relevant to the purposes of the advisory
committee. Upon his/her finding that the item is relevant, it shall be
included in the agenda. Staff-initiated agenda items are not subject to
prior review by the Chairman
9. Order of Business. The order of business as regular meeting shall be:
( a) Call to Order
(b) Roll Call
(c) Adoption of the Agenda
(d) First Public Comment
(e) Adoption of Minutes from Previous Meeting
(f) Staff Reports
(g) New Business
(h) Old Business
(i) Second Public Comment
G) Committee Member Discussion
(k) Next Meeting Time, Date and Location
(1) Adjournment
B. Agenda Items Requiring Action (Old Business and New Business):
I. General. All members of the public who address the Board shall utilize
the speaker's podium to allow their comments to be recorded, and shall
identify themselves by name and local addresses, if applicable. Further,
any speaker speaking on behalf of an organization or group of individuals
(exceeding five) shall indicate such and shall cite the source of such
authority whether by request, petition, vote, or otherwise.
2 Speaker Registration. Persons, other than staff wishing to speak on an
agenda item shall, prior to the item being heard, register with the staff
liaison on the forms provided. Five (5) or more persons deemed by the
Board to be associated together or otherwise represent a common point of
view, as proponents or opponents on any item may be requested to select a
spokesperson. All persons may speak for a maximum offi'l6 (5) three (3)
minutes each.
3. Restrictions on Comments Deemed Not Germane to the Item.
Notwithstanding any provision herein, any Board member may interrupt
and/or stop any presentation that discusses matters that need not be
considered in deciding the matter then before the Board for consideration.
At any Board proceeding, the Chairman, unless overruled by majority of
the Board members present, may restrict or terminate presentations which
in the Chairman's judgment are frivolous, unduly repetitive or out of order.
C. Order and Subiect of Appearance: To the extent possible, the following shall be
the order of the proceeding:
I. Preliminary Statement. The Chairman shall read the title of the agenda
item.
2. Initial Presentation by Staff. County staff shall make the initial
presentation to the Board regarding any item under consideration. After
completion of the staff presentation, the Board may make inquiries of staff
at this time.
3. Initial Presentation by Petitioner or Proposer. Petitioner or proposer shall
make the initial presentation to the Board regarding any item under
consideration. After completion of the presentation by the Petitioner or
Proposer, the Board may make inquiries of the Petitioner or Proposer at
this time.
4. Speakers. After Board inquiry, speaker shall be allowing to speak based
on the time limitation guidelines outlined in the preceding subsection B
above. During and after a speaker's presentation, the Board shall have an
opportunity to comment or ask questions of or seek clarification from such
speaker. The Board may also allow staff to comment, ask questions of or
seek clarification from such speaker.
5. Restrictions on Testimony or Presentation of Evidence. Notwithstanding
any provisions herein, any Board member may interrupt any presentation
that contains matters which need not be considered in deciding the matter
then before the Board for consideration. At any Board proceeding, the
Chairman, unless overruled by majority of the Board members present,
may restrict or terminate presentations which in the Chairman's judgment
are frivolous, unduly repetitive or out of order.
D. Rules of Debate: The following rules of debate shall be observed by the board.
Except as herein provided questions of order and the conduct of business shall be
governed by Robert's Rules of Order.
1. Motion under consideration. When a motion is presented and seconded, it
is under consideration and no other motion shall be received thereafter,
except to adjourn, to lay on the table, to postpone, or to amend until the
question is decided. These countermotions shall have preference in the
order in which they are mentioned, and the first two shall be decided
without debate. Final action upon a pending motion may be deferred until
the next meeting by majority ofthe members present.
2. Chairman participation. The presiding chairman may move, second and
debate from the chair, and shall not be deprived of any of the rights and
privileges of a committee member by reason of being the presiding
chairman
3. Form of address. Each member shall address only the presiding officer for
recognition, shall confine himself to the question under debate, and shall
avoid personalities and indecorous language.
4. Interruption. A member, once recognized, shall not be interrupted except
by the Chairman if the Chairman determines that the member's
participation is irrelevant, frivolous or out of order. Any member may
appeal the decision of the Chairman to the committee for decision by
majority vote.
5. The question. Upon the closing of debate, any member may require a roll
call vote. Any member may give a brief statement or file a written
explanation of his vote.
E. Public Comment on General Topics: Members of the public may register to
speak on general topics under the Public Comment portion of the CAC agenda.
The number of speakers permitted to register under public comment on any given
agenda shall be limited to a maximum of five, unless the Chairman recognizes
additional speakers.
1. Speaker Registration. Individuals wishing to speak to the CAC under
public comment at any regularly scheduled meeting of the CAC shall
register to speak in writing on the form provided by the County prior to
the public comment portion ofthe agenda being called by the Chairman.
F. Reconsideration: There shall be no reconsideration of items before the Coastal
Advisory Committee relating to expenditures of Category A TDC funding.
G. Conflicts of Interest: Any member having a potential voting conflict shall
publicly state the nature of the conflict at the Coastal Advisory Committee
meeting and complete Form 8B [Memorandum of Voting Conflict for County,
Municipal and Other Local Public Officers] within 15 days of the scheduled
meeting.
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Chairman