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October 8, 2008
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Naples, Florida, October 8, 2008
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Development Services
Advisory Committee in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business
herein, met on this date at 3:30 P.M. in REGULAR SESSION in Conference
Room #610 in the Collier County Community Development and Environmental
Services Center, 2800 N. Horseshoe Drive, Naples, Florida, with the following
members present:
CHAIRMAN: William Varian
Charles Abbott
James Boughton
Clay Brooker
Laura Spurgeon DeJohn
Dalas Disney
David Dunnavant
Marco Espinar
Blair Foley
George Hermanson
Reed Jarvi
Thomas Masters
Robert Mulhere
Mario Valle
ALSO PRESENT:
Joe Schmitt, CDES Administrator
Judy Puig, CDES Operations Analyst
Bob Dunn, Bldg. Review & Permitting Director
Bill Lorenz, Engineering & Environmental Services Director
Nick Casalanguida, Transportation Dept.
Mitch Riley, ROW Manager
Pam Lulich, Landscaping Supervisor
Michael Ossorio, Contractor Licensing
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE
AGENDA
**REVISED**
October 8, 2008
3:30 p.m.
Conference Room 610
I. Call to order
II. Approval of Agenda
III. Approval of Minutes from September 3,2008 meeting
IV. Staff Announcements/Updates
A. CDES Update - Joe Schmitt
B. Transportation Division Update - Nick Casalanguida
C. Public Utilities Division Update - Phil Gramatges
D. Fire Review Update - Ed Riley
V. Old Business
A. ROW handbook - Transportation (Mitch Riley & Pam Lulich)
VI. New Business
A. Fire Review Task Force (5) items to discuss:
1. Plan Tracking Barcode System
2. Electronic Plans submission & availability
3. Framing Inspection sequence coordinated w/fire alarm sprinkler & hood permits
4. Site Development Plan (SOP) modification and how minor items are done with
information on the application to reduce instance of and Site Development Plan
Insubstantial Change (SDPI).
5. Six required ways for area calc's established guidelines.
B. Review and recommend for appointment (2) applications submitted to serve on the DSAC
board
VII. Committee Member Comments
A. The review process and environmental review-I thought we discussed that when they get
backed up plans would continue thru plan review-this is not happening - Bill Varian
B. Staffing in the contractor licensing department - Bill Varian
VIII. Adjournment
Next Meetinq Dates
November 5, 2008
December 3, 2008
January 7, 2009
February 4, 2009
March 4, 2009
CDES Conference Room 610 - 3:30 pm
CDES Conference Room 610 - 3:30 pm
CDES Conference Room 610 - 3:30 pm
CDES Conference Room 610 - 3:30 pm
CDES Conference Room 610 - 3:30 pm
October 8, 2008
I. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 3:32 PM by Chairman William Varian.
A quorum was established.
II. Approval of Agenda
Blair Foley moved to approve the Agenda. Second by Thomas Masters. Carried
unanimously, 12-0.
III. Approval of Minutes
Thomas Masters moved to approve the Minutes of September 3, 2008 as presented.
Second by Reed Jarvi. Carried unanimously, 12-0.
(3:35PM - Clay Brooker arrived.)
IV. Staff AnnouncementslUpdates
B. Transportation Division Update
Nick Casalanguida stated:
· County may file a lawsuit against the State/FDOT regarding Alligator Alley lease
proposal; the County Attorney's office has requested a record search
· DOT released its long-range transportation plan and Collier County is scheduled
to receive $10M
· Return on equity share of gas tax is less than Yz % to Collier County
. Lee County is to received $500M
· MPO Meeting is scheduled for Friday with DOT representatives and he suggested
DSAC members attend
Discussion ensued concerning why Collier County did not receive as much
funding as other Counties. $2.4Billion has been allocated to District 1.
He suggested drafting a DSAC Position Statement and forwarding it to the MPO,
the State Secretary of Transportation, and the District 1 Secretary. He encouraged
members to write individual letters concerning the lack of fairness in funding
distribution.
It was noted Collier County did not attend the Alligator Alley lease informational
meeting sponsored by FDOT.
· Budget cuts have affected road maintenance; manpower is not available for
mowing; report problem areas to Transportation Department
· Oilwell Road is not permitted and is not going forward until TRIP program
becomes active and funding is available in June, 2009
· COA Administrative Procedures - a summary is being prepared and will be
presented to DSAC at a future meeting
(3:50 PM - David Dunnavant arrived)
A. CDES Update
Joe Schmitt stated:
· Most of the LDC Amendments have been finalized for this Cycle and will be
presented to the BCC on October 20th
· Six amendments concerning environmental issues will be reviewed in Cycle 2
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· Stormwater Preserve Amendments will be re-written; definitions and language
have been a problem; more specificity will clarify confusion
· Task force will be set up (EAR-based and EIS); assistance is welcome
· BCC asked CDES to evaluate financial impact of changing set backs for pool
pumps, AlC, well pumps in side yards - will be reviewed during next LDC Cycle
Discussion concerned the potential impact to Golden Gate Estates with older
homes on smaller lots. Also mentioned was that the new AlC units/equipment on
the market have greatly reduced noise level.
. Personnel changes are pending
C. Public Utilities/Engineering Division Update - Phil Gramatges
No report.
A request was made to add the topic of water surcharge bills to the November
Agenda.
D. Fire Review Update
Ed Riley stated his department preformed 760 reviews last month. First approval
percentages were up. Staff has been able to call contractors when items were missing
from the applications.
VI. New Business
B. Review and recommend for appointment (2) applications submitted to serve on
the DSAC board
Robert Mulhere moved to accept the application of Reid Schermer to fill the
current DSAC vacancy and to recommend approval to the BCC. Second by David
Dunnavant. Carried unanimously, 14-0.
V. Old Business
A. ROW handbook - Transportation (Mitch Riley & Palm Lulich)
Nick Casalanguida introduced Mitch Riley, ROW Manager, and Pam Lulich,
Landscaping Supervisor. The ROW Handbook has been separated into two
sections - Construction Standards and Landscaping Standards. Drafts of both
documents were distributed.
The following changes were suggested to the Construction Standards:
. Two handbooks will allow for easier updating
. Definition of "Right of Way" was disputed
. Page 2, 5(b), replacement vs. reimbursement - "replacement" of disposed
plant materials and reimbursement for new required piping
· Page 4, D(5) -language concerning BCC to be reviewed
. Page 10, subparagraph (e) should be reviewed - voids in jack and bore casings
should not be filled
· Pages 9/10, 2(a) - 36 inches minimum vs. 48 for landscaping - clarification was
suggested - either directional bore or jack and bore
· Page 11, <Q - suggested using steel plates as an alternative to backfilling open cuts
in asphalt roadway
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· Page 13, (f) - Separate paragraph into two sentences: the first sentence will end
at "day" and the second sentence will start at "For."
· Page 15, remove "all" from Separate Turn Lane Requirements; on-site construction
requirements should be referenced; change "lane" to "lane(s)"
· Page 15, under "Two Lane Roadways" - revise language in (1) and (2) - "Left
turn lanes must be provided whenever the left turn volumes movement is 20
vehicles or more" and "Right turn" for 40 vehicles or more
· Page 15, change Conditions from "Pre-Existing" to "Existing"
· Page 16, Items 2, 3 and 4 could be combined
· Page 16, (b) - check DOT requirement for driveway - 16 feet, not 24
· Page 19, @-revise requirements/language -lime rock is included
· Page 20, #6 - possibly move to another portion - does not pertain to ROW
(4:45 PM - Dalas Disney left)
· Page 23, #7 - remove "already" from sentence
· Page 40 - suggest matching language to LDC
· Page 42, C. - "Underground Utility Accommodations" should be located in the
permit section
· Definitions should include "throat lengths"
Thomas Masters moved to approve the Constructions Standards Handbook as
amended. Second by George Hermanson. Carried unanimously, 13-0.
· The Landscaping Standards Handbook will be reviewed at a later date.
VI. New Business
A. The Fire Review Task Force (Items 1 - 5) will be moved to the November Agenda.
VII. Committee Member Comments
A. The review process and environmental review
Chairman Varian asked if the in-house Environmental Review process could be
revised arid streamlined.
Bill Lorenz suggested splitting the permit documents to be reviewed concurrently by
the different departments.
Reviews are done by:
. Planning/Zoning
. Environmental
. Architectural
. Engineering
· Structural
The current process is sequential. Four sets of plans are submitted for commercial
projects. It was suggested the County could require that additional sets are submitted
at application.
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Bob Dunn stated the plans are usually kept intact but one set is sent to Fire Review.
He stated he will review the existing policy and return with recommendations.
(5:05 PM - Robert Mulhere left)
B. Staffing in the contractor licensing department
Chairman Varian stated there were concerns in the industry from licensed
contractors that, due to staffing restrictions, "handymen" are being issued
occupational licenses and are soliciting work they are not licensed to do. The
monitoring of these licenses is the issue.
Joe Schmitt stated one position was frozen. He suggested writing the BCC to
request activating the frozen position. Fund # 113 has some funds available currently.
Michael Ossorio, Contractor Licensing, stated the handyman category allows a
licensee to perform work where the final cost is $1,000.00 or under.
Discussion ensued concerning how to police and enforce the restrictions.
· Code Enforcement has only three investigators at the moment.
· Also suggested: an in-service with Building Inspectors and Code Enforcement.
· Trade groups need to self-police
When questioned regarding future lay-offs of Staff, Joe Schmitt stated there is a
possibility of further reductions in January, 2009.
· It was suggested that a reduction of Impact Fees would help to revive the building
industry .
· The building industry could approach the BCC for a stimulus package with
reduction of fees
· The AUIR will be brought to the BCC
· 61-G Reviews - an unfunded mandate - funds must be found to support Staff
performing reviews
Chairman Varian stated he was invited to speak at a luncheon for the League of
Women Voters in November to explain what DSAC does for the community.
Joe Schmitt stated the Mayor of Fort Myers Beach contacted the BCC asking for
building plan review and inspection assistance. This is a potential revenue generating
opportunity but it could also impact Staff flexibility since at least one person will be
traveling back and forth.
DSAC Meeting Dates:
. November 5, 2008 at 3:30 PM
· December 3, 2008 at 3:30 PM
· January 7, 2009 at 3:30 PM
. February 4, 2009 at 3:30 PM
. March 4, 2009 at 3:30 PM
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There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was adjourned by
order of the Chairman at 5:30 PM.
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES
ADVISORY COMMITTEE
William Varian, Chairman
These Minutes were approved by the Board/Committee on
as presented , or as amended
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