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March 3, 2008
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
PUBLIC VEHICLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Naples, Florida, March 3, 2008
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Public Vehicle
Advisory Committee in and for the County of Collier, having conducted
business herein, met on this date at 9:30 A.M. in REGULAR SESSION at
the Collier County Development and Environmental Services Building, 2800
N. Horseshoe Drive, Conference Room #609, Naples, Florida, with the
following members present:
CHAIRMAN: Tony Marino
Russ Berghuis
Reg Buxton
Tom Lugrin
Randall Smith
Steven Quinn, alternate (excused)
ALSO PRESENT:
Michelle Arnold - Code Enforcement Director
Michaelle Crowley - Code Enforcement Investigator
Evelyn Trimino - Code Enforcement Operations Supervisor
Marlene Serrano - Code Enforcement Investigative Supervisor
Kitchell Snow - Code Enforcement Investigator
Brittany Ervin, Code Enforcement
Jeff Wright - Assistant County Attorney
COLLIER COUNTY PUBLIC VEHICLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
AGENDA
Date: March 3, 2008 at 9:30 A.M.
Location: Collier County Community Development Services Building, 2800 N. Horseshoe Dr, Naples, FL,
Conference Room # 609 I 610
NOTICE: PERSONS WISHING TO SPEAK AT THE MEETING NEED TO COMPLETE A "REQUEST
TO SPEAK" FORM. SPEAKERS MAY BE LIMITED TO THREE (3) MINUTES FOR DISCUSSION
UNLESS ADDITIONAL TIME IS GRANTED BY THE COMMITTEE.
ALL PARTIES PARTICIPATING IN THE PUBLIC MEETING NEED TO SPEAK ONE AT A TIME AND
STATE THEIR FULL NAME AND COMPANY THEY REPRESENT, IF APPLICABLE, SO THAT THE
COURT REPORTER CAN RECORD ALL STATEMENTS BEING MADE.
ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL A DECISION OF THIS BOARD WILL NEED A RECORD
OF THE PROCEEDINGS PERTAINING THERETO, AND THEREFORE MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT
A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THAT
TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED.
PLEASE ENSURE ALL PAGERS AND CELL PHONES ARE OFF OR IN A QUIET POSITION.
1. CALL TO ORDER
A. Roll Call
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: February 4,2008
4. COMPLAINT REPORT -- Michaelle Crowley
5. NEW BUSINESS
A. New Applications
1. Paradise Airport Rides - New CTO.
2. SW Cab -- New CTO.
3. American Taxi - New CTO.
4. Gulfcoast Trans& Limo-New CTO
Owner: Elius Merisnor
Owner: Jean B. Aristil
Owner: Pierre Jean Louis
Owner: Manuel A. Reyes
6. OLD BUSINESS
A. Issues brought up by VFH Industry in regards to MBA
B. Change dates for CTO renewal process
C. Independent Operators wrongly classified by employers
7. SPEAKERS
8. NEXT MEETING DATE: April 7, 2008
9. ADJOURN
March 3, 2008
I. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Tony Marino at 9:34 A.M.
a. Roll Call
Roll call was taken and a quorum established.
II. Approval of Agenda
Russ Berghuis moved to approve the Agenda. Second by Reg Buxton. Carried
unanimously, 5-0.
III. Approval of Minutes: February 4, 2008
Tom Lugrin moved to approve the minutes of February 4,2008 as presented.
Second by Randy Smith. Carried unanimously, 5-0.
IV. Complaint Report (Handout)
Michaelle Crowley went over the distributed report with the Committee:
. There were 68 patrol cases and 8 citizen or industry complaints handled.
. Eleven businesses had not renewed CTO and, based on site visit
investigations, were determined to be out of business.
. Three businesses - status still questionable
. Four businesses with late renewals or not-yet submitted renewals
. Three businesses with new co-owner packets due
. Two cases with $500 fines for no Driver 1D and/or no CTO
V. New Business
Evelyn Trimino presented the following applications which have been
recommended by Staff for approval.
A. New Application:
1. Paradise Airport Rides - Request is for new CTO.
Applicant is Elius Merisnor, who was not present.
Action on Application tabled.
2. S.W. Cab - Request is for new CTO
Applicant is Jean Baptiste Aristil, who was present.
Staffreported that Fictitious Name has now been submitted. Insurance and
Class 9 verification to be assured pending approval.
Russ Berghuis moved to approve the application. Second by Reg
Buxton. Carried unanimously, 5-0.
3. American Taxi - Request is for new CTO.
Applicant is Pierre Jean Louis, who was present. Insurance is pending
approval. Home occupation explained. All other conditions have been met.
Tom Lugrin moved to approve the application. Second by Reg Buxton.
Carried unanimously, 5-0.
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4. GuIfcoast Airport Transportation & Limo Service - Request is for new CTO.
Applicant is Manuel Antonio Reyes, who was present.
Home occupation requirements were explained.
Russ Berghuis moved to approve the application. Second by Reg Buxton
Carried unanimously, 5-0.
VI. Old Business
A. Issues brought up by VFH Industry in regards to MBA
No representatives of the Vehicle for Hire Industry or of MBA were present. The
Committee passed on this item. Parties may ask to be heard at another time.
B. Change Dates for CTO renewal Process
Evelyn Trimino explained that requests had been put forth for discussion to have
decal renewal dates changed to an off-season date.
Renewal notices are currently sent out in October with a January 31 deadline
Only five companies renewed in November, 85% renewed in January and of
those, ten renewed on the final day.
Discussion and suggestions were made to move the date of decal renewal
deadlines back, with notices to go out two months prior to that date. Also noted
was a speed-up in the process for new hack licenses, which increase at years end.
Michelle Arnold stated her department has no problem with changing the dates.
However, that action would entail an Ordinance change.
Randy Smith moved to request the Board of County Commissioners to amend
the Ordinance to affect a change in the decal renewal dates. Effective dates to
be changed from February 1" through January 31" to December 1st through
November 3(/'. Notices of renewal will be sent out in August rather than
October. Second by Tom Lugrin. Carried unanimously, 5-0.
Michelle Arnold proposed the Committee discuss Driver ID renewals also and
suggested moving the driver ID renewals to every two years rather than every
year.
Discussion followed regarding pros and cons.
Reg Buxton moved to recommend to the Board of County Commissioners to
amend the Ordinance to affect a change in Driver ID renewals from every year
to every two years. The amendment to take place along with the change to decal
renewal dates. Second by Russ Berghuis. Carried unanimously, 5-0.
C. Independent Operators wrongly classified by employers
Randy Smith brought up the issue of the IRS classification by employers of
independent drivers and whether they are considered employees or truly
independent regarding safety issues and coverage under Workers Compensation.
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His points were:
. The responsibility of PV AC being charged with the safety of the
Public. As such, should oversee safety of drivers as well as the general
Public as they are part of the Public.
. The incidences of court cases where companies were sued 300 million
dollars in an audit going back several years, for incorrectly
categorizing employees as independents
. Independent drivers do not have Workers Compensation coverage- pay
more in taxes and have no unemployment coverage.
. If they operate a company's equipment and under a company's rules
IRS determination is they are employees
. If they work for multiple companies, are under those companies
control and use thcir equipment or lease one to them, they are basically
employees.
. Safer to make them prove to Code Enforcement if they are employees,
not independents. Protect companies and drivers from IRS lawsuits.
Michelle Arnold noted the County was responsible for insuring that drivers drive
safely, are licensed and meet certain standards, not determine the companies'
policies. It may be an IRS problem; not a County one.
During the discussion, it was brought out that the IRS had 17 criteria to determine
if a person was an independent or not. Eighty percent of drivers, mostly taxis, are
independent. The industry may not need or want more regulation from PV AC.
Randy Smith moved to approve a recommendation to the Board of County
Commissioners to request staff to look into whether or not PV AC can oversee
the safety and welfare of drivers, in regards to employee status versus independ-
ent operator status. Second by Tom Lugrin. Carried unanimously, 5-0.
VII. Speakers:
Bill Duzen, Unlimited Airport Rides brought to attention of the Public Vehicle
Advisory Committee that he had noticed in the phone book that companies are
advertising without their certificate numbers published in the ads, as required.
Michelle Arnold responded that although the ads cannot be changed once they are
published, the staff will be sending out letters to those who are not using their
certificate #'s in ads, that they will be served a citation for an infraction of the
Ordinance. All companies must have their license numbers in ads and on vehicles
as a protection to the public.
Michaelle Crowley had sent out 49 letters, in February of 2007 when the yellow
pages came out, informing all companies doing business in Collier County of the
requirement that certificate numbers must be in all ads. She added that in the new
software program in place this year, everyone's certificate number has changed.
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Therefore, it won't be until the next date for Yellow Page ads before the new
certificate number will be shown. Citations will be sent out at that time to those
companies not in compliance.
Discussion followed on ways and methods to enforce the Codes and Ordinances,
copies of which are issued with the Certificates to Operate (CTO.)
Also discussed was issue of hiring drivers with short term work permits and
temporary licenses.
As long as hiring requirements were followed, it was determined that hiring
practices would be up to the company owners' discretion.
VIII. Next Scheduled Meeting Date is April 7, 2008 - 9:30 A.M.
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There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was
adjourned by order of the Chair at 10:25 A.M.
COLLIER COUNTY PUBLIC VEHICLE
ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Chairman, Tony Marino
These minutes approved by the Board/Committee on
or as amended
, as presented
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