BCC Minutes 01/25/2008 W (w/CRA & CRA Advisory Boards)
January 25, 2008
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
JOINT WORKSHOP BETWEEN THE CRA
BOARD AND CRA LOCAL ADVISORY BOARDS
Naples, Florida, January 25, 2008
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County
Commissioners in and for the County of Collier, and also acting as
the Board of Zoning Appeals and as the governing board(s) of such
special districts as has been created according to law and having
conducted business herein, met on this date at 10:30 a.m. in
WORKSHOP SESSION in Building "F" of the Government Complex,
East Naples, Florida, with the following members present:
CRA CHAIRMAN: Commissioner Donna Fiala
Commissioner Tom Henning
Commissioner Fred Coyle
Commissioner Jim Coletta
Commissioner Frank Halas
ALSO PRESENT:
Jim Mudd, County Manager
David Weigel, County Attorney
David Jackson, Bayshore Gateway Triangle CRA Executive Director
Penny Phillippi, Immokalee CRA Executive Director
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CHAIRMAN FIALA: The CRA board meeting will come to
order. Please all rise and say the pledge of allegiance with me.
(The Pledge of Allegiance was recited in unison.)
CHAIRMAN FIALA: I want to thank you all for being here
today. This is -- to me these are probably the most exciting meetings
of all because everything about them stays positive and uplifting. So I
just really enjoy them.
Before we begin, though, and I -- and before I turn the meeting
over to David, I'd like to ask Tom Henning to say a few words, please.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Well, good morning. I--
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Commissioner Henning.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I apologize to the CRA board. I
-- I need to ask the board of commissioners something. I was asked
by the County Manager's Office and Bill Clone to send a letter on
behalf of the board on supporting his application for the CWHIP
program. In this application it -- or this letter it shows the time lines,
the time frames of what the board has executed.
On the last page has 1 through 5 and it says, (as read):
Furthermore, subject to the availability of the county funds and
commitments as follows. The county staff has gotten this from the n
an item that was on our agenda that we committed to another CWHIP
application which is if funds are available, impact fees were deferred.
And -- and it just goes down through the whole thing. You know, to
me and Leo Ochs believe that this is nothing different that what we
would do for -- for Fountain Head and Fountain View.
So I'm asking my colleagues do they have a problem for me to
sign this letter and give it to Bill Clone as part of his application for
CWHIP?
COMMISSIONER HALAS: I don't.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Oh, I'm sorry. You didn't -- did
you get one?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Oh, yes. I've been reading it. And
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Commissioner Halas here with me.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: I think Commissioner -- oh,
Commissioner Coletta started to talk and then you next.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Well, once he starts talking, he
never stops. So--
CHAIRMAN FIALA: I love this group, don't ya?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: -- I'd like to get mine in and I don't
have a problem.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay. Commissioner Coletta.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: I'll tell you what. I'lllet
Commissioner Coyle go first because he is the elderly person here.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: No, I'm not. That's Donna.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: That's me. I'm the oldest one here. Boy,
did he have my -- me pegged; right?
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Yeah.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Commissioner Coyle.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: I -- I'm finished.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: No, you didn't. What -- how do you feel
about this letter?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: I just told Commissioner Henning
that it was fine with me.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay. Commissioner Halas?
COMMISSIONER HALAS: It's fine.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Commissioner Coletta?
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Fine. I -- for the most part fine.
I just wish I had it a little bit sooner, so I might have questioned staff
on some of the direction. But, I mean, this isn't in any departed from
anything we've been doing, there's nothing dramatically different
within this letter that's -- we've done as a commission in the past.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: No. The only thing different
was what we already haven't approved is what I stated which we did
with the other CWHIP application which was -- yeah.
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COMMISSIONER COLETTA: So on the record what we're
doing is we're taking -- what we're basically -- put the final window
dressings on the last one we did and carrying it forward.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Besides the already approved
action for falling -- the falls, Bill Clone, I should say. We all know it
as Bill Clone's project. We already did a lot of things and that was just
stated and memorized throughout it. And the other one was just
taking it from the MLU that we did for full support.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Under those circumstances I
have no problem. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay. Any further comment? All those
in favor -- is there a motion?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: No. No.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: No motion.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: We don't want to take a motion
here. It's just reporting to the board and -- and -- and giving direction.
And I think my colleagues have, Madam Chair.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: They have, sir. And county attorney is
nodding. So it looks like move forward with your signature.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Thank you for bringing that to our
attention.
Okay. And now without further ado, I'm going to turn the
meeting over to turn -- actually, I'm going to turn the meeting over to
David Jackson. And -- and then David will introduce his people and
we'll -- we'll progress from there.
MR. JACKSON: Thank you, Madam Chairman.
This has been a duly advertised workshop. You have a quorum
from the CRA Commission, CRA Board. Here you have several
people from each of the Immokalee and the Bayshore Gateway
Triangle local advisory boards. For my board on the left there you
have Mr. Ron Fowle. He's been on the board for quite a long period
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oftime and he's our senior agent. Then we have Mr. Steve Main, a
business owner on Bayshore Drive. Mr. Lindsey Thomas, he's in his
second term as chairman of the advisory board. He's also a local
business owner and works in the triangle area. And Karen Beatty,
she's been here for a couple terms. She's a resident in the Bayshore
area. Also in the back here, Jean Jourdan. She's our project manager.
And anything you hear about that happened today or last year, it's
going to happen, it's all done by her. And Sue Trone, she's done all the
graphic materials that you've got there. She's our operations analyst
and she's newly arrived and is going to be a rising star in the CRA in
the future.
I am the Executive Director for Bayshore Gateway Triangle area.
And I'll turn it over now to Penny Phillippi who is the new person.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Do you want to introduce your other
board members there as well.
MR. JACKSON: I don't have any other board members,
however, we do have representatives from the area of Sondra Quinn
who's the president of the Bayshore Cultural Arts. We have Rick
Edson. He's a board member on the Naples Bay Corridor Alliance.
Dwight Oakley, he's on the Bayshore Cultural Arts as member and is
also a local architect and lives in the Bayshore area. Chellie Doepke,
she's on the Bayshore Cultural Arts thing and an active participant in
most of the cultural things. In the back is Dwight's wife, Sue. And of
course our counselor for the CRA, Margie Student-Stirling.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Thank you very much.
MR. JACKSON: Yes, ma'am.
MS. PHILLIPPI: Good morning. I'm Penny Phillippi and I am
the Executive Director for the Immokalee CRA. It's a brand new
position, but our advisory came out in force today to support us. Our
Chairman Fred Thomas is here. Denise -- Dr. Denise Blanton, Rick
Ayers, Eva Deyo, Bob Soter and hiding is Gary Dantini with the Code
Enforcement. And our other guest, of course, is Susi Winchell from
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EDC.
So, David, is there anything else?
(No response.)
MS. PHILLIPPI: Okay. Well, thank you very much.
MR. JACKSON: Ma'am, following the agenda there what I'd
like to do for just sequential order is to have the chairmans of each of
the local advisory boards address you as the board. Then I will
present the accomplishments for the Gateway Bayshore Triangle CRA
component for 2007 and what we expect in 2008. I'll turn it over to
Penny. She'll do the same for the future for the Immokalee area.
Then open board discussion at your direction, Madam Chairman, to
interchange ideas, thoughts, direction and programs with the advisory
board members.
At this moment with your concurrence I'd like to turn over to Mr.
Lindsey Thomas who's the chairman of the Bayshore Gateway
Triangle local advisory board.
MR. THOMAS: Goodmoming.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Good morning.
MR. THOMAS: Thank you for allowing us to have this meeting
here to discuss not only what we've done last year but what we hope to
do this year as well. Mr. Jackson and staff has prepared a presentation
that will describe most of the significant activities that we've been
doing in the Gateway Bayshore Triangle area.
There are two points that I wanted to bring up that we're very
proud of. And I think, in fact, a lot of people both in the Triangle and
the Bayshore Gateway area. One is the commitment of our board to
provide $500,000 that we did last year for the purpose of building
storm water retention ponds down at the end of --
MR. FOWLE: -- Pelton.
MR. THOMAS: Thank you. And that will affect approximately
300 property owners within the Triangle itself. It's interesting because
the Bayshore Gateway CRA area actually is made up of almost 1,800
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acres of which I think the assessed value of all those lands within their
-- currently on the tax rolls is over a billion dollars. So as we enhance
and increase the worth and quality of life in this area, we're hoping
that will also be a benefit to the county as well.
Additionally, we are very proud of additionally putting in
$200,000 allocated to the county government for the DOT to complete
the lighting of Davis Boulevard. That is something that's been needed
both safety as well as enhancement. And there -- I was surprised to
find there is over 35,000 vehicles a day traveling that segment of the
road.
With that I'll turn the presentation back over to Mr. Jackson.
MR. JACKSON: Mr. Thomas.
MR. THOMAS: Thank you very much, Commissioners, for
allowing me to come before you today. Hopefully this is the last time
you see me do this kind of a role now that we have a new executive
director which I'll talk about in just a little bit.
Okay. To put everything in context we need to know how we got
to where we are right this minute, what we've accomplished last year
to get us ready for where we are and what kind of a vision we have for
our community in the upcoming future. The freeze of'89 and NAFTA
inclusion changed the economic status ofImmokalee completely. We
went from forty-eight independent farmers, smaller farmers, to three.
We begin then to start looking about changing our industrial base.
And thanks to you, you-all took the airport authority and put it in the
airport board so we could begin our industrialization on that end. You
helped us through the efforts of the EDC to get an enterprise-owned
development agency to provide incentives for businesses to come to
our area. We later develop the CRA which is funding our master plan
so that we can begin to look at things in the future.
Now, we're looking and what kind of things we're seeing around
us we're working very hard to do. We know we need to do something
about our roads. So working with the state DOT, we're talking about
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widening 82 from 75 to 29, bringing a bypass 29 around the east side
of the airport. That would take all the heavy tractor-trailer rigs off our
main street. And our main street can begin to function in a way that
nobody ever thought about before. And I'll come back to that in just a
moment.
Through the efforts of the east of951 horizon group we're going
to be looking at doing some corridors west going from 846 or
Immokalee Road up to 82 that would relieve some of the traffic --
traffic congestion that's going through our town.
We are going to try to become an industrial hub for you-all so we
can bring a lot of money in for which very little services are going to
be needed back. But we're not in a static situation, folks. We're in a
very dynamic situation. And I'll show you that. Oh, I need to go this
way. Okay. Just to the south of us in this area right in here is Ave
Maria. In order to provide the necessary retail for Ave Maria, Seranoa
has been -- I didn't mean to do that. Seranoa has been developing.
That's this section of land that's in the urban area. And this area all out
here, all the way out to here, that's all part of Seranoa. And that's --
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Can I stop you for a second and say tell
us what is Seranoa for the listening audience.
MR. THOMAS: Seranoa is the name ofa community that was
once the farms. In fact, that's the reason why that was called Good
Night Curve was the big farm out there. And then a retirement group
bought that farm and leased it out and they called it Seranoa. Okay.
That's how it got the name. Okay? But it's a big open farm area right
here. And to provide retail services to Ave Maria, that's going to be
developed.
Now, Fred Thomas was concerned for years that this section of it
would be the one that would be developed because that was in the
urban area and that can be developed most quickly. And by doing
anything there that would kill all of our little stores on Main Street if
you had a Wal-Mart or a Target or something in there. So we had a
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major concern about how quickly and what could we get to be done.
But then we had a saving grace because right across the street over
here where this little X is, the casino's going to bring a multi-story
hotel. And that multi-story hotel does something for Immokalee that
nobody ever thought would be good or something that would be
desirable in Immokalee and that's a tourist zone that comes up First
Street to Main, around Main to Roberts Ranch.
Now, when I first came here nobody would have thought of this
as a tourist zone. In fact, the only reason why you went out to Lake
Trafford was to fish. But we learned when the Seminole Tribe put the
casino in, that folks would come out here just to look at the birds, look
at the environment. And we are the best place in this country for
high-end echo tourism mixed up with downtown zone that would be
like a Caribbean Gatlinburg, if you will, where folks will come and
get a taste utilizing the natural resource that we already have walking
our streets. The multi-cultural diversity and all the great things that
are happening there. And because they're not going to develop this
part, but they're going to develop it down here, we have a little more
time and I can relax a little bit. Because that'll give time for the
Indians to develop this so we can have a tourist zone going up through
the top. So those are the kind of things we're working on.
The other thing to know when we talk about industrial
development, which is to be out in this area, is that we are very
centrally located in Florida. Immokalee is very centrally located. If I
ask the average coastal person how long does it take to get to Orlando,
they'll tell four and a half hours five hours. Being in Immokalee it
takes you three hours if you come through Immokalee because we're
two -- two and a half hours from the airport in Orlando. We're two
hours and twenty minutes from the airport in Tampa. Ninety minutes
from the airport in Miami. So we're a good place for any industry to
come to come here. So we're going to be working on things to do that.
Thanks to the EDC we are now the hub for the rural area
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economic concerns, new high-tech industry that will be marketed
region wide. We're talking about health and human services sciences.
And they will be located at our airport. And there will be a region
wide, South Central Florida region wide marketing of that district.
And that patterns itself, that hooks itself up to the new industry -- I
mean, the new health facility that the Florida State University is going
to do and those kinds of things. So it's important for us to be ready to
make the transition so that we can have a downtown that looks kind of
Mexican and Guatemalan and Haitian. Okay. Which means a
different kind of a land development overlay that we'll be coming to
you with sometime shortly.
But our greatest accomplishment this last year, our greatest
accomplishment this last year was getting a new executive director.
She's only been here two months, but she's already bonded with us.
And I'm still getting nasty phone calls from Highlands County about
taking a great asset from her -- from them. Okay. And all I can say to
you folks is please be good and nice to her, then you never have to see
me anymore.
Thank you.
MR. JACKSON: Madam Chairman, CRA Commissioners, I'm
going to give you a quick overview. It's a visual. There's not much
reading. So it's all eye candy. If you would just put your eyes on the
screens and I'll go through it rather quickly and I'll verbalize what
each of the pictures and events happened as we go through the
process. I will talk about what we accomplished, the Bayshore
Gateway Triangle component of the CRA for 2007 and what we plan
on doing and what our goals and objectives are for 2008.
As I lead off on it, the first graphic there is a picture of the Davis
Triangle back in the '60s maybe even the '50s. And as you look at it,
this is Davis Boulevard and you can see it stretches out. And on the
tip of that arrow, you're into the swamps. Okay. There's nothing out
there. And if you look at this, this is 41 going down to 951. And back
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in this -- that's Airport Pulling. Okay. What's on the other side of
Airport Pulling? Nothing. Okay. So that's how much your area has
grown over time as expansion has come in and grown. And if you
look at that same area right now, this is what we have today in our
aerial area.
For us we have the tax incremental financing. You understand
the program about how we get our funding and where it comes from.
It's from the property taxes that are collected in the area above what
the county gets. From my area you get one million -- one point one
million dollars per year out of this area. And then we get whatever
above that into our fund. This is our -- our revenues over the last four
years. Again, it shows that we had had a steadily increase, not
necessarily all about the CRA, but then again it has a lot to do to the
CRA and what the economic status of the area has been in Naples.
Our 2000 budget, a quick pie chart, it's in your program that
shows where our revenues came from and where we were at over the
last five years. You can see that we've had a steady increase in
revenues, but we've also had steady increases in reserves. And we --
and we look at the same thing on the expenditure side. We have our --
most of our money is looking into land acquisition. And we are also
over the last five years you can see we have a couple spikes in the
loan segment where we tried to leverage our funds instead of using all
of our reserves. So we're pretty much quickly balanced out.
Again, if you want to look at the area where my area is and how
it relates to the rest of Collier County, we're right on the fringe of the
developed portion of the City of Naples. We are at the -- that's where
the name Gateway came from to the county at the Davis Triangle area
from 41.
What I'm going to talk about here in 2007 and our
accomplishments I want the CRA Advisory Board and CRA Board to
understand that all of our accomplishments are due to my two staff
employees and a collaborative effort with the county staff under Jim
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Mudd. We could not have done it without the county staff. It's
collaborative. We participated and they participate with us. I think
that partnership is keen. We've got to keep it going. It's one of those
things. When you got the big mo -- momentum, you got to keep it
rolling. Because if we falter -- and we know the economy is trying to
kick us in the teeth right now -- but if we falter, this area may slip
back into the old designation, but that's not where we want to go.
Proceeding on with the slides, one of the first programs was the
Haldeman Creek Storm Water Dredge Project. That was a great
project, all funded by county and from the SFWMD people, the South
Florida Water Management District. That's been a very good project.
But also we have another area of the Triangle. This is another picture
of the '70s and you see the three circles there. In the Davis triangle
there were three storm water ponds. That's water. Where that water is
now there's buildings and parking lots, 100 percent impervious
surface. So the question is where does the water go? Okay. It used to
go to these places. This is some of the problems that we have in very
large storm events. Okay. This isn't the normal occurrence. Your
ten-year storm, your 25-year storm or hurricanes and this is the kind of
event and effect that we have in some of the areas, mostly in the
commercialized area.
But that's being solved by the county. Okay. The storm water
department is putting together the pond. You guys spent quite a bit of
money on acquiring the land. And it's right there in the Triangle area
just off of L ynwood and Francis. This is a LIDAR map of it. The red
area is where the Phase 1 of Palm will go. And the Forsyth parcel 1.6
acres about was purchased by the county in 2007 of which there was a
$529,000 contribution from the CRA to make that happen because we
know we need future expansion. It's one of those things, you can't buy
dirt inexpensively once it's been built on. So we got on that.
This is another great project that the storm water department did.
It's down close off of Thomasson in the Bayshore area. You can see
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the water and they had some localized flooding area. They came in.
And this is the project when it was completed, a very good project.
It's really, really nice and they liked it. The blue aerial shows -- aerial
-- excuse me -- the blue arrow shows where the -- that ditch was
improved next to the Avalon Elementary School. But what we've
done is we were asked by the storm water department is to coordinate
with the Cirrus Pointe Development and the Abaco Bay Development
to get them some easements and right-of-way access so they can
continue that ditch to the north and help out with that. And right now
that's in negotiations. And we did that through the neighborhood
association. Because we had a -- we had a rapport with them. We
talked with them.
One of the other things we do is the site improvement grant
program. I'm going to show you three examples, before and after of
which we take money, give grants as an incentive for people to
improve their property, make it better than what it was which
increases property values which increases the tax incremental that we
get and that we re-invest. This is a multi-family residential. They had
the roof blown off during the Wilma and now it's been replaced and
repaired. And this is a private residence. He had a dirt driveway.
He's now got a brick paver driveway and an aluminum roof that is to
hurricane code.
We also did a study for the Shadowlawn and Bayshore area. If
you look at the lower right-hand picture there, this is Shadowlawn
Drive that goes by -- past two churches and elementary school,
two-lane road. We looked at it. We're trying to provide some
improvements to it. We don't want to make it like Bayshore, four
lanes and landscaped and all. But as you see it transition here. We
want to improve it for the pedestrian, for the children, safe areas,
lighting. Because right now it is lacking in those things. And that is
currently on the Board of County Commissioners' short list that goes
to the Ferguson Group up in Washington asking for some
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transportation funding to improve this segment of the road.
I've also looked at Bayshore Drive. Here it's a very much
improved road. However, we do have some pedestrian issues. And in
the study we looked at it. And you'll see it. It'll morph here. That
there isn't a place for pedestrians to get from one place to the other
that -- the recommendation to the MSTU, the Municipal Service
Taxing Unit, is to provide safe islands for the pedestrians that are
crossing the street from one side to the other.
We did a Thomasson Drive corridor study. This is the area we
looked at. And why are we doing a study at Thomasson Drive that
goes from where the Colliers built the Thomasson Drive new
extension to Publix. Well, here is why. We need to look at this
two-lane road that needs to be improved. We got to build for the
future.
Right now Remington Lakes is a condo project that will soon go
to the county for approval, 320 condo units at this location. Right here
is the 31 acre new site for a middle school. What does a middle
school bring, buses and parents and kids. Okay. And they're going to
be traveling the road to get there.
The other project is Sable Bay. It's back in the Collier's hand.
It's right now a DRI that's been downgraded to a PUD for 1,999 new
homes. Okay. A lot of people back on the road and they're going to
be using this for access. And right now under construction is
Hamilton Harbor with 432 boat slips.
This is the recommendation is to improve that road, leave it as a
two-lane but also provide for a bicycle safety and pedestrian access.
We need to look for funding on that, but it's a program to improve the
infrastructure.
The county's been very good. In our area this year in 2007 there
was a large number of streets that were resurfaced. Okay. I think it's
called micro asphalt -- micro surfacing. And it was great. It really
was a boon. They come back in and painted it and it really looks nice.
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And it helped the area because people notice that you guys are
investing in staying in our area.
Mr. Thomas talked about the Davis Boulevard lighting project.
We contributed $200,000 toward that project. It's going to be
happening soon. We're looking at lighting on the South Bayshore
area. It's a two-lane road. No lights. Dark. I mean real dark. So
we're looking at that for improvement.
Now, we also have an MSTU working in our area. That's been
there since 1997. They are in charge of taking care of Bayshore Drive
proper and all the landscaping in it. This year they funded some
designer polls for stop signs and lights and signage in the area. And
they'd recently gotten a LAP. It's a Local Area Program Agreement
with FDOT to put more lights in the Bayshore Drive area around the
bridge. And that's coming from the MSTD.
The MSTU has also worked hard in getting Cat shelters for the
Cat bus that's along that area. So those are installed.
We have a residential infill project which we're looking at an area
that was designated slum and blight. It's got some good people living
in there, but it's got some challenges also. And so we looked at this
residential project. And you have approved just the purchase of 14
mobile homes and trailers. And one of the reasons we targeted the
area, here's some statistics from the sheriffs department that talks
about why that area -- it's a blue light special. Most any night you're
going to have one or two sheriffs departments there, police -- not
police, sheriffs deputies in the area active. And in the daytime we've
got code enforcement that's there. So there's a lot of activity. And
you can see that the numbers are really high for the neighborhood.
We've acquired these 14 properties that are in blue. Our goal,
providing we can find the funding and we get the program established,
we want to acquire the other areas that are in red and green. If we can
do that, we can make an impact and change the neighborhood. Right
now all the red properties are the high code violation locations.
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Significant fines and penalties on them. And I'm sure that code
enforcement can give you more data on it.
In the residential infill we want to take those older mobile homes.
Some of them are built in the '50s and '60s. Definitely if you try to
move them, they'd fall apart. We are demoing them. And what we
plan to do in the future is to build a 160 mile an hour wind loaded
home, foundation home on those sites and get them to be owner
occupied, not rentals. You know, create us a neighborhood.
There's a couple of our code enforcement helping people.
There's a sheriffs department out patrolling the neighborhood. This is
one of the actions that came from code enforcement. It was an
infraction. This was a flop house. It is a two bedroom, one bath
building that had eighteen people living on it in six mattresses. Code
enforcement got involved with it. And the two buildings that you see
there were destroyed. And now they have a clean open space that we
hope a new commercial building goes on.
Also code enforcement action on South Bayshore we also had
some significant problems with one property owner that seemed to
collect a lot of stuff on all of his properties. And it was -- been
cleaned up and there's still a lot of action going on it. So it's an
ongoing thing. We're working at it.
How do we plan for the future? Let's look forward to 2008. One
of the things we want to concentrate on is that the places we love don't
happen by accident. You make them happen. And that's what you do
through visioning and what you do with programs.
This is Commissioner Fiala's pet project, the Davis Boulevard
Sprint building. It's now Embarq. And one of the reasons is it's on the
main -- main thoroughfare. And you've got this old barbwire fence.
And we've been talking with a corporate agencies. We says, Hey, can
we landscape it? Can we make a better fence? Can we do better?
They're in negotiations or discussion with us. Nothing resolved yet,
but we're working on it, Commissioner.
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The other thing we're looking at is once the pond is built, we'd
like to go for a FERDAP grab or some other type of program to put in
some kind of a walking trail around the pond, a place for people to
walk and exercise. And we're looking at that in the future, probably
2009, but we'll be bringing that program to you.
The other thing we're looking at is a pathway to Sugden from
Bayshore so people don't have to get in their car and drive there. That
they can walk, roller skate, take their children and buggies and
whatever. To date we've collected about $77,000 that will soon be
matched by a couple other donations and -- to build that path.
Also for the future we're looking on a neighborhood focus
initiative. This comes from the redevelopment plan. What we plan on
doing there is going into the neighborhood. Right now we'd like to
establish some residential sidewalks. There's places like this. There is
none where do people walk, in the middle of the road. Okay. And
collect a lot of water. This is so we want to try to provide better
drainage. And like this street here, there is no storm water drainage
system so water just runs wherever it can on flat surfaces. You like to
get some swales and stuff set in there. And I know that there's a new
policy coming out about tertiary system, but we can use some of our
redevelopment money to help with that.
We also have a landscaping offer to the people to maybe do
something in their neighborhood. If the neighborhood wants to do it,
lighting, trees, sidewalks, benches approved by them, designed by
them, approved by you, constructed by us.
Bayshore Drive Corridor we will need to look at the corridor for
Bayshore right now. And for one of the reasons the Triangle area is
pretty much built out for the most part, pretty much built out. But the
Bayshore Drive Corridor in the commercial sector, if you take a look
at it next to where our 17 acres are, you see there's a lot of vacant land.
Vacant land doesn't contribute anything to the community. It's good
that it doesn't have a blighted building on it, but it does not contribute
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to the tax base. It doesn't bring a business. It doesn't create a job. It
doesn't create something for the neighborhood for a place to go. So
we need to look at that corridor and we need to get buildings built.
And then we need to get businesses in them, quality business, and
that's what's going to be our program we'll be bringing to you soon.
One of those things is here is a list of proposed incentives that are
legal incentives that can be provided by the redevelopment agency to
spur economic growth in that area. These haven't been fully staffed
through your advisory board, but they will come up through you and
through the legal system and they'll be presented to you. And we
would hope that you would support them because they do make sense
and they do help the area.
One of the proposals we have currently to work on you'll see is if
you look at North Bayshore Drive, a very nice corridor, well built out,
100 feet of right-of-way. But then if you turn around and go south of
Thomasson Drive, you're looking at a two-lane road. It's dark.
There's no sidewalks. There's no bike path. And it's pretty much a
safety thing.
So we could probably take -- if you look at the today schematic
and probably build something like that tomorrow. Now, that's just a
concept. It's not real. We need to look at it and you need the
consultants to come in and you need to plan it and bring it to the CRA
Board for approval. Of course, it will be staffed through county
transportation. They'll have to be supportive of it.
Let's look at future development. Quickly I'll go through here.
I've heard Mr. Joe Schmitt and last night I listened to Nick
Casalanguida talk about all the development that's happening on 41
from the intersection of Davis all the way past 951. And you-all know
about it. You see it every day whenever you have these proposals to
build. A lot of activity on that corridor. But this is an eye test, but in
our area there are a multitude of other private projects that are going
on also.
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Some of our challenges and some of our benefits are listed up
there. I won't read them to you, but it does show that we do have
some benefits. Arboretum Village mixed-use project that was
approved. It's in site development plan phase.
Remington Lakes Condo Park coming soon to you. The new
school, botanical place, 20 acres. It's been built out and it's completed
now and mostly filled up. It's a mixed income development. Abaco
Bay was a conversion from apartments to condos. Fisherman's
Village's still a paper project and it has some legal issues, but we hope
that will come to fruition in some form in the future.
The Odyssey which is a Treviso Bay project. It's a marina
project on Bayshore Drive. It has been approved and it's in the site
development process right now for approval. Hamilton Harbor under
construction. Okay.
These are all draws. They're going to draw a lot of people. Cirrus
Pointe site development plan approved. And they're looking for ways
to build that when the market recovers because it's one of those things
they work on.
Botanical Gardens 160 acres. They've got their site development
plan. They've got half the money they need to build. And as soon as
they get a significant amount more, they'll be there.
Land development in our area there, you see the yellow circle,
CRA owns at your approval a 17 acres of site that we'd like to work
with. That site is located right here from the aerial just to give you a
sight to where it is. It's just north of Botanical Place and Jeepers Drive
and south of Lunar. And in that area it's a pretty nice space. And
what we'd like to do is provide some kind of a mixed-use project in
there maybe some kind of cultural facility of some sort. With a future
thing in the yellow area as to maybe through the Board of County
Commissioners, because they will have to be the one to approve it, is a
designation of a possible Collier County Cultural Center or a regional
impact center. Right now we have a needs assessment that's under
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way. We'll be bringing to you that when it reads out. We don't know
what the results are, but we'll let you know when that happens. That's
a future plan.
And this is the site, again, looking from another way and you can
see what a beautiful site it is when it backs up to Sugden Lake there,
Sugden -- Sugden Park and Avalon. That's something to look for.
So what are we doing? We're looking for sustainability. We
want the Bayshore Gateway Triangle area to be a contributing part of
Collier County. We want it to contribute to the county. We want it to
contribute to the tax base. We want it to be a quality place to live and
a quality place to work. And that's what we're working towards and
we're doing it every day. Now, can we get there? Yes. Patience,
persistence and dedication and that's where we're at for today.
So as we work forward to that in your packet we've listed our
goals for 2008. I didn't enumerate them, but they're in there and those
are open for comments and discussion with the advisory board
because those are recommended by the advisory board. And at this
time I'll turn it over to Penny to talk about Immokalee.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Before we start, if -- ifI may, are there
any questions from commissioners?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay. Do we have any speakers on this
particular item?
MS. FILSON: I have speakers, but I believe public comment's at
the end of it.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay.
MS. FILSON: But I'll be happy to call them now.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: I just thought if something pertained to
this while we're still on that subject.
MS. FILSON: Do you want me to call them next?
CHAIRMAN FIALA: How many speakers do you have?
MS. FILSON: Four.
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CHAIRMAN FIALA: Are any pertaining to this particular
CRA?
MS. FILSON: They don't say on here.
MR. JACKSON: All four of them do. All four ofthem--
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Pertain to this one?
MR. JACKSON: Yes, ma'am.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: I would like to address this now so we
don't have to switch gears back and forth. Thank you.
MS. FILSON: Okay. The first speaker is Rick Edson. He'll be
followed by Dwight Oakley.
MR. EDSON: Okay. I'm Rick Edson. I'm a part of the Naples
Bay Corridor Alliance. And what we are is a community group that
involves businesses, residences and new developments within the
Bayshore area. We call it the Naples Bay Corridor and we are there to
work together to develop a vision of what this could be, what we
might be.
I think there's been an awful lot that's going on. If you look at
what's happened, the MSTU's built a great road. The CRA has done a
tremendous amount of work in improving the water drainage and
buying up property, but that's nowhere near sufficient.
Where we are today we've got a great road and we've got a lot of
land. We don't have the projects. We don't have the investment tools
to move this forward. And what we're trying to do is have a coalition
of players that develops a vision and a picture that we can share with
everybody in the community, work with the CRA so we can move
forward and plan to be somewhere rather than wake up somewhere.
And if you think about what it could be, for example, when we
say cultural center, this is not a place where people come in and go to
a singular event and leave. We've seen a lot of those developments.
Some places where I lived in Chicago, they built the United Center in
a blighted area. No improvements to the area whatsoever except for
the physical place where the building is. People come in. They go to
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an event and they leave.
Our vision is to have something in the community where we have
a vibrant community. What we have today is a skeleton. We don't
have the skin and bones, the personality, the character and the impact
on the community that we can have. What we need to have is an area
that is -- got cultural business. People can live here. They can work
here. They can come and experience. A family can come here and go
into a cultural center, have lunch, shop, maybe go to a bakery. Show
their kids how pottery is made. Experience that. Interact with that.
Maybe see how glass is blown. Maybe learn to fish. Expose them to
a cultural learning experience where they can grow. Come spend time,
provide a positive economic base. A place where people can work,
enjoy and engage with the community. So it's not just a place where
people come in, go to an event and leave. But this is an opportunity to
be a vibrant community that contributes to the tax base, contributes to
the cultural impact of this. And it's not about anyone of those
individually. It's about those collectively.
So we're working on a vision, a layout and a way for people to
interact and understand what this can be and to move forward. We
need your help. We need tools. We need a way to encourage people
to come in.
When you think about the economy being slow now, the real
estate market being slow, that's not a problem. That's an opportunity
for us. That means that any tool the CRA has is more powerful
because of a backdrop. There aren't any other options. So we look for
your help. We've done a great job so far. We've got a long way to go.
Thank you.
MS. FILSON: The next speaker is Dwight Oakley. He'll be
followed by Sandra Quinn.
MR. OAKLEY: Good morning. I'm Dwight Oakley. I'm a
resident of Bayshore and have been for the last three and a half years.
I'm also a practicing architect. I work and live on Bayshore.
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I'm here also to reenforce and to encourage the commissioners to
really continue to work with the CRA advisory board. What they've
been able to accomplish and what the MSTU has been able to
accomplish is fantastic. Even in the three and a half years I've
certainly seen great improvements.
With regard to the cultural or the potential of a center being
created on the 17 acres that's made available to us within the CRA
district, it's just a great opportunity. It's really fascinating. I know that
you obviously see information on other communities throughout the
country. This is almost a prototype for one of those projects to come
along and enhance this portion of the community in Collier County.
It can't denote again how important and what a great economic
engine this cultural center or educational facility might be for us. So
it's -- it's a great starting point. It could serve as an anchor for this area
to really grow.
So on that basis I please encourage you to continue working with
us and we look forward to coming back to other meetings. I've been
active in putting together drawings and very early sketches with
regard to the 17 acres and showing other members of the community
what may occur on that site. And I'm happy to share those drawings
with you at some stage if you wish. But, again, the potential's
fantastic. There's a great deal of excitement in the -- in the area.
Again, I'm anxious to be a part of that process. So thank you again
very much.
MS. FILSON: The next speaker is Sondra Quinn. She'll be
followed by Challie Doepke.
MS. QUINN: Madam Chairman and commissioners, thanks for
the opportunity to make comments on this project. I'm Sondra Quinn.
I'm president of Bayshore Cultural Arts and I also live in the
Bayshore area.
And I guess my -- my request today is for you to consider and
support a cultural district when it is presented to you sometime in the
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future. A cultural district designation for our area would combine the
mixed-use residential and commercial that has always been planned
with a regional cultural center. And designation of a cultural district
would provide an opportunity for us to plan for performance space, for
live/work studios, for galleries, for artists and organizations in the
community that are not right now being served. They're not able to --
they don't have locations to perform, rehearse or to do their work.
This would also support the goals of the United Arts of Collier
County. And there was a study that I know you supported that was
done several years ago. It would also provide some accessible and
affordable offerings to segments of the community. And it -- it's
something that is a -- that is actually augments and supports what's
already going on in Collier County. I mean we've got fabulous
performance halls and fabulous art museums, et cetera, but it doesn't
meet the needs of the entire community. It just meets the needs of part
of the community.
I guess the big thing that's important about this is with a cultural
district designation it would allow us to seek funds from the state and
from the federal government and that makes a huge difference as you
know. So I would hope it would be some sort of a private-public
partnership.
So, again, please, please consider and support a cultural district
designation. And I leave you with a vision to think about. A vision
that is a regional cultural, education and entertainment center that
supports the community's activities, cultural and art events, live/work
studios in a village concept with a very strong educational overlay.
Thank you.
MS. FILSON: And your final speaker is Challie Doepke.
MS. DOEPKE: Good morning. My name is Challie Doepke.
And I'm with Bayshore Cultural Arts. I'm also on the advisory
committee for Collier County's schools. They have a vision of having
a performing arts school in Collier County.
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As I said, I'm here on behalf of Bayshore Cultural Art and
representing over 20 organizations that have responded to a needs
assessment questionnaire that I sent out last fall. We have worked
with AMS, the national firm hired by the CRA. And preliminary
results indicate a serious need for venues for performance, teaching
and live/work studios in Collier County.
There is work being done to form a creative and performing arts
school within the county. And with the redevelopment effort taking
place in the Bayshore Gateway Triangle, the focus on creating a
cultural district is a timely one. We have enormous public support for
a cultural district on Bayshore including that of the art council world
famous conductor William Knoll, nationally recognized conductor and
pianist; and even a letter of support and interest in doing an annual
residency here by the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra and Cincinnati
Pops.
We see great benefits for the redevelopment of the Bayshore
Community by creating an environment where all can live, work and
play. And ask for your vote of support when the subject of
establishing a cultural district is presented. Thank you for your time
and consideration.
MS. FILSON: That's your final speaker, Mr. Chairman -- Ms.
Chairman.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Thank you very much. Now, we'll move
on to the Immokalee CRA.
MS. PHILLIPPI: Good morning. Thank you once again.
I want to say at the very beginning I'm very happy to be in
Collier County and I'm very happy to be in Immokalee. I want to be
the first to commend David Jackson and his staff for the beautiful
yardstick they've -- they've laid down on the ground. They've done an
outstanding job. And, boy, you really have something to be proud of
with this group of folks. And we're hoping that next year we can be
right up here with some of those kinds of things to show you, some
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programs that we've developed.
Today what I would like to talk to you about though is -- because
I'm at ground zero -- and our advisory board has been working for four
years to develop a master plan. And it's a good plan. And everyone in
the community supports the plan, are excited about the plan. They
want something to happen. They want to see us deliver a product.
And so that's my charge in the upcoming year.
And -- and we'll just go through some of the goals that are
outlined in that master plan. They recently had a workshop and came
up with a vision. And the vision is simply the Immokalee CRA will
ensure that our home, Immokalee means our home, is always
welcoming to visitors and to future families in an environment that
provides worlds of opportunity for investment, enjoyment and a
diversified quality of life. And I think in the nutshell -- I mean, it was
-- it took a lot to get the whole room of people to come up with one
vision, but it needed to be said. And I think that really embodies what
-- what they really want to do.
Our first goal is to guide land use. That was always been their
initial goal. They want to maintain the quality of life and enhance it.
To enhance the natural beauty, the environment, the small town
character, the stable neighborhoods, the agriculture, the tourism and
the Immokalee Regional Airport as a port of entry.
I want to say to you that even though this goal embodies all those
things and they look really abstract, when I first came to Immokalee
and what -- what convinced me to be in Immokalee and stay there is I
saw life. The place was -- it's teaming with life. It's a healthy, alive,
vibrant community. And there's no other way to say it. There are
young couples walking down the streets holding hands. There are
young mothers pushing shopping carts. There are children playing all
over the place. And in their faces you see hope. And as you do in all
youth, hope for the future. And I think that -- all these things embody
those people who are there and ready to make their future in
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Immokalee.
But how can we bring this big goal to fruition? And it is through
our master plan. It is through the implementation of our master plan.
So we are promised at the end of this month that we will have all the
comments back from our Collier County Comprehensive Planning
Department on this master plan so that we can use -- we have in place
ready to go the planning firm of Jacobs, Carter & Burgess. We're
ready to hit the ground running as soon as we get those comments in
our hands and begin forming this master plan that is the vision of all
the community into the legal document that it needs to become in
order to go forward.
And it's not an easy task. You can see. These are the things that
it -- that it's going to require. This -- once we get a master plan
completed, it must become a comprehensive plan amendment. And
all of you have done plenty of comprehensive plan amendments,
approved them. You know the things that we have to do as well as get
the master plan into the proper format and -- and language. We have
to do the things that would address the land development code. We
have to do a transportation plan, a capital improvement plan. And then
we can start talking about implementing that master plan. We have a
time line set out for these -- these huge objectives that are -- I mean,
we are at the cusp. We are right now ready to step over the threshold
and -- and push these things into motion.
But our consultant believes we won't have our master plan
implementation ready to go until May of 2009. So we're walking
slowly through a lot of these things thinking about what are some of
the things we can do while at the same time that we're getting those
things done.
We have -- this is a brand new goal and the CRA has decided to
-- the advisory board has decided to create an Immokalee
Revitalization Overlay District. And in that we want to incorporate all
the elements of the residential, the institutional, the commercial, the
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vehicular, the pedestrian environment into an integrated commercial
and civic design that reflects the community focus.
And, again, I've got to say how are you going to do this? We're
going to fast track the development of an overlay district for
Immokalee. We're going to have that completed sometime we hope
this month. We're going to hold public meetings in March. This is
how fast we're going to move on the overlay district. We're going to
get it to the comprehensive planning department and then hopefully to
the Board of County Commissioners before this year is out.
We want to create a community-driven design for Immokalee
that emphasizes that multi-cultural nature that Mr. Thomas was talking
about earlier. And we want to have a lot of marketing plans. We want
to develop an enhanced marketing plan with the EDC and with our
chamber of commerce that can realistically market Immokalee as a --
as a multi-cultural tourist attraction, a place that you'd want to go and
visit.
Then Goal 3 is a long-standing goal for decent affordable
housing. It was really interesting as we -- we didn't put anything in
here about code enforcement, but code enforcement has actually
either-or and demolished and rehabbed over 100 units in Immokalee
just this past year. We're -- and what we're really looking for are -- we
want to encourage and facilitate partnerships between for-profit and
nonprofit providers of affordable housing, but we want to set up a real
process for the selection of those partnerships. That's one of the big
things we have to do.
And we have to define our housing program. We don't have any
housing programs yet. We need to define the parameters of what
those programs are going to look like. And, of course, we want to
continue to coordinate our activities with the Collier County Housing
Department.
The proposed overlay, we believe, will -- will reduce the cost of
housing by addressing a different set of requirements for landscape
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and agriculture density, inclusionary zoning and such incentives as a
community land trust. These are all things that have long been in the
master plan from the very beginning. Now, we're simply going to
create a program to implement those items within the -- within the
overlay district. And we're not saying a set of codes that are better or
worse than the ones that already exist. We're simply saying a different
set of codes that will more closely align with the needs of the
Immokalee community.
Another huge goal for the entire county, I know, but also for the
Immokalee CRA is the conservation, protection and management of
our natural resources which are abundant in the Immokalee area. We
have a -- we formed a reciprocal partnership with the Conservation
Planning Advisory Committee. And we're currently -- we currently
have a subcommittee investigating the feasibility of a habitat
conservation plan. This is a huge undertaking for the small advisory
board and a limited amount of staff, but we're -- we're going forward
with this partnership with the Habitat Conservation Planning Advisory
Committee and looking strongly -- leaning heavily on them for
support.
MR. THOMAS: Penny, can I interrupt right there? Next
Tuesday is election day. And most of our leaders in the community
will be working the poll. So we can't be here to help support Habitat
Conservation Collier's acquisition of the Pepper Ranch which is a part
of this overall goal of maintaining it for the environment for echo
tourism and stuff like that. So we hope you'll keep that in mind and be
supportive of it next Tuesday. Thank you.
MS. PHILLIPPI: Okay. Goal 5 is we're looking for high quality,
diverse recreational opportunities in Immokalee. And we're going to
explore the possibility of land donations to strategically place certain
kinds of parks and recreation facilities. And I was just so pleased with
Mr. Jackson's plan for the recreation because we have a lot of places
we can go walking and hiking. And we have those five -- those four
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county parks already in Immokalee. And so we really have to
strategically plan on how we're going to move forward with that.
Then Goal 6 is growth and development supported by roads,
sidewalks, bike paths, so on and so forth. And on the -- on February
28th we're holding a community meeting with our transportation
planner, Mr. Nick Casalanguida. I hope I got that right. He's a great
guy. He's agreed to come out. And we're passing out fliers in Spanish
and we're -- we're putting up bulletins. We're really advertising this so
that the community can come to this meeting and talk to the county
planner about what roads need to go through. We can't get from what
place to what place, what's -- what's needed. We have huge
transportation -- I'm sorry. We have a huge amount of pedestrian
traffic. And so we need to create a realistic pedestrian environment so
that people can walk safely to and from wherever they're going.
So we really need the community to come out and talk to the
transportation planner so that he really understands the needs of the
community. And -- and I think that will help him better with his
planning as well. Because sometimes we get -- get to thinking about
the bigger picture and the bypass will alleviate some of the traffic and
all of these kinds of things. But to hone it down to where the person
walking the street can actually have a voice will be a huge asset, I
believe, to the planning effort.
Weare taking as I -- as I mentioned earlier we're undertaking a
capital improvement plan. We're developing that with our consultants
as well. We're going to have continued representation on the east of
951 Horizon Study Committee and on the State Road 29 Committee.
We're going to continue to stimulate community awareness. As
you know 70 percent of the population, the permanent population, of
Immokalee is Hispanic. So it becomes vital to us who are trying to
implement change within the community to tap in to the folks who are
represented especially the dominant population and get them involved
in the activities. That's going to be an active effort this year. And we
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hope to expand the Adopt-a-Road Program and implement an
Adopt-a-Street Program. That will help a lot with our litter and code
enforcement kinds of things.
In Goal 7 we're going to enhance the diversity of the local
economy. And it's totally necessary at this point. If20 percent of the
migrant farm workers didn't come this year, then certainly the
downtown merchants are feeling a 20 percent loss at the cash register.
So it comes -- it becomes very important, then, to start to diversify
that economy. And we're going -- that's going to be one of our biggest
initiatives.
First, we'll start by reviewing some of the incentive programs that
the Bayshore has laid out. By the way, every time I call these folks,
they're right there and they're more than willing to help. It's just the
greatest crew over there at Bayshore. I just can't say -- sing their
praises enough.
Then on a case-by-case basis we're going to support the
development of incoming businesses with CRA funds if that's at all
possible. We're going to develop an enhanced marketing plan again.
This comes into every goal that we put. Sometimes you hear the same
thing over and over, but that becomes a huge part of what my job is
going to be during this coming year.
And then we get to Goal 8. You'll be happy to know there's only
nine. So we're at Goal 8. And we want to promote tourism and
culture as a means of diversifying Immokalee's economy and
providing greater recreation and entertainment opportunities. We're
going to work with the Tourism Development Council to develop a
plan to promote tourism. We're going to include implementation
strategies that will market eco-tourism. It's one of our biggest assets.
That's one of the things we can market fairly easily.
We're, again, going to create that community-driven design for
Immokalee that emphasizes the multi-culturalism. And first we'll
develop some store-front grants to implement that theme. We'll
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include the theme in our overlay district. We'll develop printed
material depicting that theme for marketing and we'll execute a
demonstration project downtown. Quite possibility the demonstration
project will be the CRA office. Currently we're in the kitchen in Mr.
Coletta's office at 310 Alachua, but that's okay. It's okay because we
have a vision for what downtown Immokalee looks like. And we have
an opportunity to be the first ones who step out and -- and make that
demonstration project happen.
And we are going to incorporate and support everything, of
course, that the Tourism Development Council is doing and hopefully
that will be reciprocal. We'll set up a reciprocity with that group as
well.
Then Goal 9 we want to improve the range and availability of
human services for the Immokalee residents. We want to, first of all,
research other areas to determine how to get more medical facilities,
emergency facilities. We're going to pursue CPTED which is crime
prevention through environmental design with the Collier County
Sheriffs Department. This is a planning tool where, perhaps you
know, but the communities are designed to prevent crime by more
lighting, road stopping at certain places, those kinds of initiatives.
And we're going to pursue the Neighborhood Watch Program also
through the Florida -- I mean, Collier County Sheriffs Department.
So that concludes my presentation. And I hope that kind of gives
you an idea of what we -- what we plan to do in the upcoming year.
And hopefully next year we'll come back with a whole lot of we did
this and this and this.
Thank you very much.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Commissioners, questions?
Commissioner Coletta.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Yes, thank you. Ms. Phillippi, I
want to tell you that was one of the greatest presentations I've ever
seen come from this C -- CRA Master Plan Group. It was absolutely
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wonderful.
MS. PHILLIPPI: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Right from the mission
statement which I commend you all for putting together a mission
statement that is so concise and on the point.
You mentioned one thing. And I just wanted to clarify a point.
The master plan that's coming through that we're going to be
reviewing and I'm sure you're going to find tremendous support on the
part of this commission is that truly a plan of the people of
Immokalee, but it doesn't really address the issue of codes, land
development codes. It's going to fall short of that from what I can see.
We -- we're not getting to the point where we're getting into such
things as the restrictive coastal codes on a community, an inland
community that's competing with LaBelle, Arcadia, towns that have
less restrictive codes and it's a burden to the industry in that area to be
able to go forward. Is there anyway that we might be able to move
this forward? In other words, to be able to run a parallel course with
some code changes to be able to look at land development codes as an
overlay or special district or however it works to be able to make those
changes that everybody in Immokalee has been asking for for the past
five years, make it happen in the shortest period of time possible?
MS. PHILLIPPI: I believe that's what 1--
MR. THOMAS: Excuse me. In her report she mentioned that
within the next 30 days she would have something coming to you in
that direction running parallel to the master plan. Didn't I say that
right?
MS. PHILLIPPI: If you remember Goal 2 -- in the new Goal 2
of the master plan we plan to fast track an overlay district. And in that
overlay district we'll define specifically the kinds of things that you
can do, whether it's architecture, landscaping in different sections of
the -- of the area. And then it'll be one large overlay district for the
Immokalee or urban designated area.
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COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Right. And I appreciate you
repeating it again. Because this is really the one biggest thing. I
mean, everybody's looking for future plans for Immokalee. They want
to -- they want to see the visionary plan 30 -- 30 years out. They want
to see these code changes take place today. Well, actually two years,
three years, five years ago, but it's something that we can't wait any
longer for. So in 30 days we're going to have a report back here?
MS. PHILLIPPI: Yes. I can bring the report back in 30 days,
yes.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Thirty days from this date?
MS. PHILLIPPI: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: So I mean this -- this group, this
committee, they have an objective now to come back within 30 days
with a comprehensive plan to be able to present to us what they'd like
to see in the code changes that would fit hand in glove with the
Immokalee area?
MS. PHILLIPPI: What I'll bring back in 30 days is the draft of
an overlay district for the Immokalee urban designated area. And I
don't know if in 30 days I will have had time to go take it to the
public, but I can bring you the first draft in 30 days certainly.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: I appreciate that.
MS. PHILLIPPI: Okay. Any--
MR. THOMAS: Let me add something else if I could. Let me
add something else. I've done a lot of travel, Costa Rica and places
like that. We have the natural resources in Immokalee to do the
following. Have an 800 number for any of you can call and say we
want to get close to nature. I happen to be a turkey hunter or a salt
water fisherman or fresh water fisherman. We can provide a location
without any road improvements or anything, a location in a nice little
house out in the middle of a farm field where you can stay for the
week. As a part of that thing we're going to take you out fresh water
fishing or turkey hunting. Okay. Two or three nights a week we'll
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take you to the casino if you want. We'll be able to take you to eight
Fifth Avenue South or the Piazza around Ave Maria one day of the
week.
But when you go fresh water fishing or salt water fishing or
turkey hunting we can do something for you can't get done anyplace
else. When you come back with your fish, we'll take you to a farm
field where you can pick the vegetables that go with your meat so you
can eat from God's hand to your mouth. That's a major high-end
eco-tourism that could compete with Costa Rica, Venezuela, any of
those places.
The last time I was in Costa Rica I went down there to fish. Fifty
other couples came down there to see the turtles laying eggs. You can
do that around here all the time. When we saw an alligator out on the
road, the boat captain got on the radio. Next thing I know every tour
boat was out there to see that one alligator. We have alligators all
over the place. We got panthers. We got this. We got everything.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Mr. Thomas, your love is showing
through.
MR. THOMAS: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Let me ask, are there any other questions
from commissioners?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN FIALA: I have a couple myself if you don't mind.
Do you have any incentives in place to encourage downtown
business owners to improve their appearance? I know it's a part of
your plan. I was wondering if there are incentive dollars to help them
do that.
MS. PHILLIPPI: There's dollars available, but we haven't
defined any programs right now. When I say we're at ground zero, I
say to you these are the things that we need to develop this year. We
need to create the program for incentives for the store front, for
businesses to -- to locate there, for homeowners to improve. There are
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no programs currently that exist.
MR. THOMAS: Remember, we've been trying to get a new land
development code so that we can do exactly what you want to do. So
we can provide incentives to do the kind of things we want, but we
had to get the plan done. That's why at Commissioner Coletta's
request that we're going to do a dual track to get that on up there so
that we can provide incentives because we wanted to be in place. We
want to -- got to be in place when the big box is put down Seranoa.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: That's great.
A second thing is with the effects ofNAFTA that were referred
to earlier in the presentation, have -- have those effects in any way
affected your housing programs?
MS. PHILLIPPI: Well, I can say a couple things about the
housing programs. In almost all of the state of Florida there's an
overload of inventory. There's a huge inventory, a stock of vacant
units. That doesn't exist in Immokalee. Where we do have vacancies
are in those migrant farm worker rentals. Those rentals are -- they
have some vacancies left. But when you talk about housing in the
sense of any other community, there's -- there's an abundance. I mean,
you can buy houses. The prices are coming down and all that. There
is not a glut of housing in Immokalee currently for very low for
moderate or for work force. There are some very high-end ones that
you can buy right now, but it's a whole -- it's a whole another housing
market in Immokalee than your accustomed to in any other part of
Florida actually.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Thank you.
I wanted to mention to code enforcement guys sitting there and I
notice both CRAs referred to them a number of times. My hero Mario
Bono is sitting right there. He -- he goes in. In both of our areas we
have a lot of code enforcement issues. And -- and we need work -- we
need to work with them. And they have been working so well with us
identifying things that -- that really need to be identified and in
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helping us to clean them up. It does make a much better appearance to
the whole community when code enforcement rides strong. So I just
want to just -- just give them a pat on the back. They deserve it.
MS. PHILLIPPI: I agree with that. And I want to say that Gary
Dantini is actually a member of our advisory board. So it's because of
-- and he brings monthly reports. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay. Thank you very much.
MS. PHILLIPPI: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: I had a couple more questions for David
too if you don't mind. Did anybody else have any other questions?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Nothing? Okay.
Let's see. Sidewalks, you were mentioning sidewalks in the
Triangle area there, David.
MR. JACKSON : Yes, ma'am.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Are they -- are they going to be able to
put any sidewalks on Lynwood and Shadowlawn do you know or is
that still --
MR. JACKSON: Lynwood is a challenge. Mr. Fowle will speak
in depth with that. He's been working for a long time working with
the county manager. There is some underground issues that have to
resolved. And I think there's another government agency that has
some impact on it.
The goal is on Lynwood and Francis in the Triangle area to put in
sidewalks where we can. Shadowlawn may be one of the easiest ones
to start with providing we get the funding. But when you get into the
residential areas there are certain ones that are impacted pretty heavily
and that -- in Lynwood -- Lynwood is one of those streets.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay. Fine. Would -- were the -- were
you able to buy those ten flop houses yet?
MR. JACKSON: The owner has not returned. We have a
contract waiting in place at the agreed price which has been appraised
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and all set up, but we have not had the owner return to sign
documents.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Oh, okay. Fine. Thank you. Let's see. I
don't believe I have anything else either. Any -- we have no more
speakers?
MS. FILSON: No ma'am.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Anything else from either CRA?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Ms. Chairman --
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Oh, yes.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: I'm sorry. Go ahead. Let the CRA
members talk.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Yes.
MR. SOTER: I just want to say the reference to the kitchen. As
you can see our new executive director can certainly stand the heat.
We appreciate the opportunity to be in Commissioner Coletta's
kitchen and it also gives us county connectivity to your data system.
So thank you for making that initial office available to us.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Part of my kitchen cabinet.
MR. SOTER: I'm sorry. I'm Bob Soter, S-o-t-e-r, from the
Immokalee CRA.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Yes, sir.
MR. HEERS: In reference just briefly -- my name is Rick Heers,
Executive Director of IHOPE. And I just want to say thank you to the
Board of County Commissioners because we have 27 of our first 28
FEMA mobile homes being lived in right now by people who have
never lived in their own home before. Most have been living in
shacks or rentals. And we have 36 more really very nice mobile
homes that are sitting out at the airport awaiting our setting them up
for 36 more families. We have many more families that could use
them than the 36, but FEMA is no longer providing those mobile
homes for non-profits. They're coming up with a new program that
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I'm sure will take some time to develop. But I want to thank you
because that is -- it's a small portion, but 64 families in Immokalee are
going to be very, very grateful for the opportunity to live in their own
home.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Thank you for that report.
Commissioner Coyle, did you want to say --
COMMISSIONER COYLE: I would prefer to first listen to the
advisory board.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Very good. Yes.
MS. BLANTON: Denise Blanton.
I wanted emphasize a couple of points that I think are significant
in our community. And I think Penny spoke to the decrease in
migrants as 20 percent. I think that's a conservative estimate. What
I'm hearing is more like 40 percent decrease in migrants in
Immokalee. That comes out of our tax collector's office. It comes out
of Collier Health Services where people are not coming for medical
appointments.
And I think that in large part the word on the street at least is the
changes made by the sheriffs agency. People are choosing not to
come to Immokalee to work. They're locating in other areas. So we --
if we have anything that has extra capacity, it's those facilities
designated as farm workers only. There's extra capacity there.
On the Loop Road one thing that I -- the song I always sing on
the Loop Road in our community is let's remember when we're
looping our community and enhancing the things going on around it
that we make very sure that we're also balancing the improvement of
the internal roads in Immokalee.
One of my favorite pictures of the county manager is him going
down the road when Livingston opened. My interpretation of the
picture, it was even the newspaper that took it, anyway, was that, you
know, we did it kind of thing. And I know improvements to airport
have been made, et cetera. And I would say to you that those roads
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like New Market Road going through the community, Lake Trafford
Road, that we make sure that -- just like Bayshore that those roads
built in the '50s come up to a standard. Because we don't want
everybody looping around Immokalee. We would collapse in on
ourselves. We still want to attract people into our community and
facilitate the internal circulation.
One other interesting thing about Immokalee that you would
never believe I don't think is the fact that we are becoming the
university hub for Southwest Florida. We have had the University of
Florida Research Station in Immokalee, Southwest Florida Learning
Research and Education Center I think close to 40 years.
We plan to welcome -- and hopefully our governor will join us --
Florida State University's Medical School for interns. Hodges
University recently was gifted a facility in the community. And as
you probably know, Hodges' emphasis is on adult learner's increasing
their capacity and developing new skills to improve their ability to
have different jobs.
We are 40 minutes the back way to FGCU. And Ave Maria is I'll
say within spitting distance, 10 miles -- 10 minutes type of thing. So
with that and with the designation from the Heartland Group that we
won thanks to EDC, it's bio medical. And all those facilities -- the
idea is sort of like the silicon valley, to have a convergence on
Immokalee of higher education, post-graduate education. And we
hope that that is something that we can build as a collaborative.
So that's my short list. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay. And I'd love to hear from
everybody else.
MR. THOMAS: Just one more point.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: All right.
MR. THOMAS: This is very, very, very preliminary, but your
County Extension Director, Robert Hulman, has arranged for several
community leaders, part members of the Chamber of Commerce --
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Chamber of Commerce to go to the experimental farm over in Lee
County. Because they're growing a crop that can be harvested and
used for fuel. Immokalee High School students working with one of
their professors had developed the first fully operational vehicle on
recycled corn oil. We're going to go look at that and see if we can get
that same thing duplicated in Immokalee. Because that may be a new
industry for us that's more predictable than our past agriculture by
growing a crop that can be refined to fuel oil. So that would really
help us. A good clean business to help us bring back some of the
things.
Just want you to know these are very preliminary but we're
looking at these possibilities that we had to make sure all the road
grids work and all the other things work to make that happen.
Thank you.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Did you have anything to say? Okay.
How about --
MR. THOMAS: I'm actually looking for some direction from the
board as it relates to the Supreme Court decision. And I understand
sometime in December or February there's going to be a clarification
of that position as it lets CRAs be able to leverage their capabilities.
If that decision in February or that clarification in February is not
clear as far as the CRAs being able to borrow funds to be able to
enhance the programs, what will be the next position as I guess that
we would have to go to a referendum? And I'm not sure if we're
equipped to be able to do that. I assume a referendum would be county
wide, not just within the area. And can we look to the board to help
give us direction and support of how to make that occur?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: That's going to be -- the Board
of Commissioners would put that on a referendum under the advice of
the advisory board and the CRA board. Commissioner Coyle is -- is
well aware of that. I think the rest of the boards are well aware of that.
We have plenty of time.
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MR. THOMAS: Hopefully won't have to do it.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Oh, IHOPE so.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Amen.
MR. THOMAS: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: That really cripples the CRA.
MR. THOMAS: Some of our folks that were working on it.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Any other comments?
Yes, Commissioner Coyle.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yeah. I -- I -- I would like to try to
put all this in perspective ifI could very briefly.
The CRAs wouldn't exist if it were not for the fact that the Board
of County Commissioners created them. The ideas would not have
been generated if it were not for citizens who served on the advisory
boards and the economic council that helped us with a number of
things. But none of those things would have been put into action plans
if it were not for the efforts of people like Fred Thomas and David
Jackson. That they have to be recognized for the wonderful job that
they have done. And there has been remarkable progress. This is not
something that happens overnight, but -- but there has been
remarkable progress. We want it to go faster, but I'm -- I'm convinced
we're going in the right direction.
So I would like to thank David Jackson and Penny Phillippi for
their presentations. They were very well done. And I am really
looking forward to the time, you know, as Penny gets her feet on the
ground we won't hear quite so much from Fred Thomas.
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Any other questions, comments from
anyone?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN FIALA: Okay. The CRA meeting is adjourned.
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Workshop meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 11:55 a.m.
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