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DSAC-IFR Minutes 08/27/2025MINUTES OF THE COLLIER COUNTY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE IMPACT FEE REVIEW SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING Naples, Florida August 271h, 2025 LET IT BE REMEMBERED, the Collier County Development Services Advisory Committee Meeting and Collier County, having conducted business herein, met on this date at 3:00 PM in REGULAR SESSION at Growth Management Community Development Department Room 609/610 2800 N. Horseshoe DR with the following members present. Chairman: Mario Valle- Chair Bill Varian -Interim Nick Kouloheras — (Excused) Clay Brooker- (Excused) Robert Mulhere The following County Staff were in attendance: Gino Santabarbara, Manager, Impact Fees — Corporate Financial & Management Services Heather Cartwright-Y1lmaz, Management Analyst/Staff Liaison, GMCD Also in attendance by Zoom Nilgun Kamp- Benesch and Associates Any person who decides to appeal a decision of This Board you will need a record of the proceedings pertaining thereto and therefore may need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made, which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based, Neither Collier County nor This Board shall be responsible for providing this record. 1. CALL TO ORDER — Chairman Chairman- Mario Valle Development Service Advisory Committee — Impact Fee Review Subcommittee, Wednesday August 27th, 2025 a. Selection of Committee Chairman and Vice Chairman (Conflict Areas) • Mario Valle- Chairman • Bill Varian- Interim (Conflict Areas) 2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Mario Valle- Need to move Items B and E to the end due to conflict 3. Old Business a. Collier School Impact Fee Update Study — DRAFT Report 04-25-2025 Presenter Nilgun Kamp- Benesch and Associates —Answering questions committee presented on 7-16-25 • Mario Valle- Was FFE included as part of the analysis- Understanding was that when we open a school Impact fee's covered the initial FFE. But after they were not allowed. • Nilgun Kamp- The outside council for the County felt with the changes to the impact fee legislation it was a grey area, so all FFE was removed. • Robert Mulhere- Basis for that being those costs would not be considered capital. • Nilgun Kamp- The way capital is defined, it raises a question mark. Based on wording the attorney felt it was best to remove FFE. • Mario Valle- What does Collier County have in their impact fee fund? • Gino Santabarbara- Estimated $50-$70 million in reserves for the next school to be built. • Nilgun Kamp- Estimated cost of new school is $190 Million. • Robert Mulhere- Majority of growth will be East of 951. New Towns/Villages have to provide a certain amount of acreage for civic use. There is an agreement to provide those sites to the school board at $22,500 per acre. How has the land cost been calculated given that is a lot less than the cost per acre in the urban area. • Nilgun Kamp- Land cost was calculated at $75,000.00. If they have an agreement that they are consistently getting land at $22,000, we can address that. • Robert Mulhere- Committee will provide all of those documents. • Bill Varian- What is the land inventory currently that the school board has. • Nilgun Kamp- Even if they land bank, we are charging new developments for what the existing community invested in. • Mario Valle- Why aren't we taking into account the capacity of charter schools. They are funded by the state and provide student capacity. • Nilgun Kamp- Charter schools are not included completely. We don't charge for their students, value of the inventory or their funding. State Statute states impact fee cannot be 2 used for Charter schools unless the charter school is directly mitigating need for a public school and is built to the standards of the public schools. • Mario Valle- So we are not counting the students that attend charter schools within the calculation of the school impact fee in terms of the school need. • Nilgun Kamp- Yes. • Mario Valle- If they don't need to build on the land they currently have so they sell a parcel of land that is not needed, how are we capturing that net gain of the appreciation of those lots? • Nilgun Kamp- Impact fees are based on current value and marginal cost of building a school. Not historical cost in the case of land value that may have increased. Impact fees are a snapshot in time. b. Collier County Correctional Facilities Impact Study — DRAFT report 10-31-2024 Mario Valle Excused himself for this portion of the meeting due to conflict. Bill Varian took over as chair. • Question from Nick Kouloheras- LOS based on national standards and how involved is the sheriff in the number of beds. • Gino Santabarbara- Our county is the only one that still does the AUIR. We work with Sheriff and correctional facilities to determine what needs they have. • Bill Varian- What is our capacity between our two facilities • Nilgun Kamp- I have the number of beds. 1304. • Bill Varian- Will David Lawrence take away the need or does it become apart of the correctional facilities. • Nilgun Kamp- David Lawrence center will be additional because there is need to house the special needs inmates. It is not included in the study because it wasn't built yet. We also have debt service on the current jail. One goes through 2033 the other goes through 2029. c. Collier County Emergency Medical Services Impact Fee Update Study —DRAFT Report 10- 31-2024 • Mario Valle- Disagrees with the inclusion of the EOC in the study when we are not going to be replicating that in the future. It skews the cost in the impact fee dramatically. It's not fair to the Collier County Taxpayer to be paying for something that is not going to be replicated. • Nilgun Kamp- We are including the square footage because it's an investment the county and existing taxpayers made into the infrastructure. We value it at the average cost of all the other buildings. It equates to several stations if it makes more sense to build additional EMS stations. • Mario Valle- Including it at a rate of 100% when we have no intention of replicating it, skews the square footage numbers necessary for other EMS buildings. • Nilgun Kamp- Cost is split between EMS, Government buildings and Law enforcement. It reflects the square footage the community invested in up to this point. There is no reason an asset cannot be taken and converted into a different type within the same category if the service requires something different in the future. • Robert Mulhere- We can make a recommendation to have the EOC removed from the calculations. No recommendation was made during this meeting. d. Collier County General Government Buildings Impact Fee Update Study — DRAFT Report 10-31-2024 Gino Santabarbara read Clay Brooker's question- What makes collier county buildings cost of construction so much higher than other counties in the State of Florida. • Mario Valle read the answer provided by Nilgun Kamp. Mario Valle- Local construction cost and labor extraction ability is higher than other metropolitan areas. We want to have a higher level of service within our buildings. e. Collier County Law Enforcement Impact Fee Update Study — DRAFT Report 10-31-2024 Mario Valle excused himself for this portion of the meeting due to conflict. • Bill Varian- There is nothing anticipated in the CIP. • Gino Santabarbara- The fee is going down significantly for that reason. f. Collier County Library Facilities Impact Fee Update Study — DRAFT Report 10-31-2024 • Bill Varian- In the CIP there are no plans to build a library. • Mario Valle- Impact fees collected need to be used within 7 years. When was the last library that was constructed in Collier County. • Nilgun Kamp- Golden Gate. We are currently paying debt service on the East Naples Library. • Mario Valle- We have to include the debt service until that gets paid. Part of the impact fees collected post construction go to pay the debt service. • Bill Varian- How much of the debt is left? • Nilgun Kamp- We have debt until 2034 on the South Regional Library and Golden Gate Library. g. Collier County Parks and Recreation Impact Fee Update Study — DRAFT Report 10-31-2024 • No questions. Was not discussed during this meeting. h. Collier County Road Impact Fee Update Study — DRAFT Report 10-31-2024 • Robert Mulhere- Going up directly related to construction cost and land cost. • Mario Valle- Legislature changed what areas impact fees can be used in based on where the home is being constructed relative to the impact fee district. • Nilgun Kamp- Road Impact fees have impact fee benefit districts. Collier County has 8 benefit districts. Whoever pays the fee will see the most benefit from it. 4. New Business a. Review Questions: July 16th Meeting • Answers are documented above. Bill Varian- With all of the relief acts that have come out of the Governor's office about burdensome requirements, are impact fees under that umbrella? Nilgun Kamp- No. Senate bill 180 talks about Land Use Regulations. Impact fees are not considered Land Use Regulations. 5. PUBLIC SPEAKERS Emelia Vazquez- Collier Building Industry Association (CBIA) Thanked Gino. Wants to meet with Gino and the impact fee taskforce committee to go over the questions they have. 4 6. UPCOMING DSAC-IFR SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING DATES DISCUSSION: a. Wednesday September 17', 2025- if needed. ***Not needed b. Wednesday, October 22, 2025- if needed. ***Not needed Bill Varian — Interim Chair • Made a motion to adjourn the meeting. 7. ADJOURN There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was adjourned by the order of the chairman at 4:19 p.m. COLLIER COUNTY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE IMPACT FEE REVIEW SUBCOMMITTEE These minutes were approved by the Committee/Chairman on (check one) as submitted or as amended