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DSAC Minutes 01/09/2008 R January 9, 2008 MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE Naples, Florida, January 9, 2008 LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Development Services Advisory Committee in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on this date at 3:30 P.M. in REGULAR SESSION in Conference Room #610 in the Collier County Community Development and Environmental Services Center, 2800 N. Horseshoe Drive, Naples, Florida, with the following members present: CHAIRMAN: William Varian Charles Abbott James Boughton Clay Brooker David Dunnavant Marco Espinar Blair Foley George Hermanson Reed Jarvi Thomas Masters Robert Mulhere Dalas Disney (Excused) David Bryant (Absent) ALSO PRESENT: Joe Schmitt, CDES Administrator Marlene Stewart, Staff Liaison Judy Puig, Operations Analyst, CDES Phil Gramatges, Public Utilities Nick Casalanguida, Transportation Services Susan Istenes, Director, Zoning & Land Development Review Bob Dunn, Interim Director, Building Review & Permitting Dept. Mike DeRuntz, Principal Planner, Comprehensive Planning Dept. January 9, 2008 I. Call to Order The meeting was called to order by Chairman William Varian at 3:30 PM. A quorum was established. II. Approval of Agenda Mr. Mulhere moved to approve the Agenda. Second by Mr. Masters. Carried unanimously, 8-0. III. Approval of Minutes Mr. Brooker moved to approve the Minutes of December 5, 2007 as submitted. Second by Mr. Espinar. Carried unanimously, 8-0. IV. Staff Announcements/Updates C. Public Utilities Update - Phil Gramatges . Public Utilities Master Plan is in development . Capital projects will be discussed on Monday . Anticipated presentation to the Committee and the BCC in May, 2008. VI. Old Business C. Presentation of Revised Language - Hydraulic Modeling Fee - Phil Gramatges . Money is needed in order to perform hydraulic modeling . Modeling is required to assure capacity at point of connection . Proposed placing cost for Hydraulic Modeling into Fee Schedule instead of during SDP or PPL stage . Fee is $1,000 per model; cost to County is approximately $750 per model . Threshold: projects with less than 5 ERC's will not need to be modeled (3:40PM - Reed Jarvi arrived) Mr. Masters moved to approve the Hydraulic Modeling Fee. Second by Mr. Foley Discussion ensued. Opposition to the fee was expressed. Motion was defeated, 8-No, I-Yes, with Mr. Foley in favor. Mr. Gramatges stated the Hydraulic Modeling Fee was dedicated to the Public Utilities Department, while the other fees were earmarked for CDES. Mr. Foley presented problems relative to commercial construction regarding irrigation and structure usage flow amounts using the new meter form. There is apparently a second version in use that the Committee did not approve. Mr. Gramatges stated he would investigate the situation and contact Mr. Foley directly. (3:48PM - David Dunnavant arrived) IV. Staff Announcements/Updates: B. Transportation Division Update - Nick Casalanguida . I-75/Everglades IJR ("Interchange Justification Report") has been placed on the agenda for review at the next BCC meeting 2 January 9, 2008 . The Omnibus Bill appropriated $750,000.00 to commission a year-long study to evaluate and select a location for the interchange -- Everglades, DeSoto and Big Cypress will be considered Chairman Varian asked about potential lane closures during the anticipated Pine Ridge Road construction. Mr. Casalanguida stated there would be closures during off-peak and "off' hours. V. LDC: A. Amendment Reqnest - 2008 Special Cycle 1 a - presented by Donglas Lewis, Esq. Florida Rock Industries, Inc. (Staff requested Amendment) There is an exception in the LDC concerning acquisitions and condemnation by government, or dedication to government. The purpose of the amendment is to add language that clarifies that the exception also applies when a private party is acting on behalf of government, and allows severance ofTDR (Transfer Development Rights) Credits. The County will save money since it will only pay for the land and not for severance damages. The Amendment was approved by EAC after modification to strike all references to "public purpose." Mr. Mulhere moved to approve the Amendment. Second by Mr. Brooker. The Motion was carried, 9-Yes, I-Abstention (Mr. Hermanson abstained due to conflict of interest.) IV. Staff AnnouncementslUpdates: A. CDES Update - Joe Schmitt, Administrator - CDES Mr. Schmitt stated the new Fee Schedule was in effect. He asked ifthere were any issues the Committee Members wished to discuss. Chairman Varian stated the fee charged for garage door replacements had been $53.00 but was now $103.00. He did not remember the Committee approving this increase. Additionally, there was a significant difference in permit fees for identical projects in April and December, 2007 - the projects' values and review fees were the same, no impact fees were involved, yet the permit fee was significantly greater for the December project. Mr. Schmitt stated that he would consult with the Building Department to see if fees had been changed and why. Speakers: Brenda Talbert, Executive Vice President, Collier Building Industry Association, asked about the process for dealing with problems resulting from the Fee Schedule increases, and how to advise the Association's members as to the best way to deal with this issue. Bob Dunn, Acting Building Director, stated he should be contacted and would handle each situation on a case-by-case basis. Bob Joslin, Garage Doors of Naples, stated he recently applied for three permits and had been charged the increased fee. He also asked if the Express Permit Books would be re-instituted to reduce both paper work, and the time involved. Joe Schmitt stated ifthere was a scrivener's error in the Fee Schedule, he would bring it to the Board's attention so the Ordinance could be amended. 3 January 9, 2008 Also discussed was the application of a proportionate scale to proposed renovations of older properties. Joe Schmitt stated the Building Code allows for proportionality when related to improvements and accessibility. The Land Development Code mandates a renovated structure must be brought up to current Code standards. The Committee pointed out there are situations where it is not structurally possible or economically feasible to conform completely to the Code. Joe Schmitt stated it would be necessary to amend the LDC and asked if a "Task Force" could be set up to assist him and the LDC Subcommittee in preparing an Amendment. (4:10PM - Charles Abbott arrived.) There was further discussion. The Committee suggested that building improvement costs could be separated from site improvement costs, the threshold requiring full compliance to Code might not be triggered. The architectural standards are the problem. Mr. Hermanson moved to recommend that the Development Services Director ask the BCC for direction for Staff to draft an LDC Amendment to allow for more flexible provisions for building and site improvements. Second by Mr. Jarvi. Mr. Mulhere suggested adding "for more flexibility and greater definition to the standard provisions." Mr. Hermanson amended his Motion to include the suggested language. Carried unanimously, II - O. Bob Dunn stated he had spoken with Staff who recommended changing the Fee Schedule to allow for a minimum permit fee. Convenience permits would be instituted until the BCC could approve amending the Fee Schedule. D. Fire Review Update (Note: Neither Mr. Riley nor a representative from his department was present, but reports entitled "Summary of Plan Review Activity," and "Fire Plan Review" were included in the packet of information provided by Staff.) Bob Dunn stated a Fire Review Task Force Workshop was scheduled for March 18th from 9:00AM to 12:00 Noon. VI. Old Business: A. Floodplain Management Plan 2008 Update Mike DeRuntz, Principal Planner, Comprehensive Planning Department, stated the BCC approved the Floodplain Management Plan in December. The Floodplain Management Planning Committee will review items that could affect either the Growth Management Plan or the Land Development Code. Proposed Amendments would be brought to DSAC for review before final presentation to the BCC. Committee members questioned the composition of the Floodplain Management Planning Committee. There were members from government as well as the general public. 4 January 9, 2008 Mr. Jarvi moved to recommend to the BCC and the County Manager that two professional civil engineers (non-governmental) be included as members of the Floodplain Management Planning Committee. Second by Mr. Mulhere. Carried unanimously, 11-0. VII. New Business: B. DSAC Applications - Review/Endorsement Chairman Varian stated there were two vacancies on the Developmental Services Advisory Committee and two applications had been received for these vacancies. The terms for Brian Jones and Fred Reischl had expired. Mr. Masters moved to accept the applications of Laura Spurgeon DeJohn and Patrick G. White to fill the current DSAC vacancies and to recommend approval to the BCC. Second by Mr. Foley. Carried unanimously, II-O. C. Selection of 2008 DSAC Chairman Mr. Masters moved to nominate William Varian as Chairman. Second by Mr. Mulhere. Motion carried IO-Yes, I-Abstention. (Chairman Varian abstained.) Mr. Foley moved to nominate Thomas Masters as Vice Chair. Second by Mr. Mulhere. Motion carried IO-Yes, I-Abstention (Mr. Masters abstained.) (4:30 - Bob Mulhere left.) VI. Old Business: C. Policies and Procedures for Change-out Sheet - Susan Istenes, Zoning Director Ms. Istenes presented the Staff policy for implementation of the fee for Sheet Trade- Outs. Copies of the policy were distributed to the Committee. Members commented that this particular policy actually saved money for contractors. VIII. Member Comments: Clay Brooker stated an issue regarding outdoor seating was presented during the last LDC cycle. County Attorney Jeff Klatzkow had presented an update to the Committee in November and stated revisions to the LDC noise ordinance were to be brought back before the Committee for review in December. Clay recently read that the Planning Commission was scheduled to vote on proposed changes regarding outdoor seating. He was contacted by a Planning Commissioner asking for DSAC's comments and he informed that individual DSAC had yet not seen the proposed changes. Mr. Espinar moved to request that the Planning Commission forward the changes for outdoor seating for review by DSA C prior to presentation to the BCC for approval. Second by Mr. Hermanson. Chairman Varian stated the changes should have been presented via the usual route - to DSAC, then to EAC and finally to the Planning Commission. Chairman Varian called for a vote. Carried unanimously, IO-O. IX. Next Meeting Dates: February 6, 2008; March 5, 2008; April 2, 2008; May 7, 2008 5 January 9, 2008 There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was adjourned by order ofthe Chair at 4:45 PM. ***** DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE William Varian, Chairman These Minutes were approved by the Board/Committee on as presented , or as amended 6