FMPC Minutes 05/02/2025 MINUTES OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
FLOODPLAIN MANGEMENT PLANNING COMMITTEE
SECOND QUARTERLY COMMITTEE MEETING
GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT
2800 N HORSESHOE DRIVE,NAPLES, FL
MAY 2, 2025
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, the Collier County Floodplain Management Planning
Committee, in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on this
date at 9:01 am, in REGULAR SESSION at the Collier County Growth Management
Department,2800 N Horseshoe Drive,Naples,Florida,with the following members present:
Chairman, Eric Johnson(Zoning/GMCD)
William Lang (FMPC Staff Liaison)
Paul Shea(Public)
Stan Chrzanowski (Public)
Kenneth Bills (Public)
Robert Dorta(City of Naples)
Ned Miller (Public)
Dennis P. Vasey (Public)
Linda Orlich (Public)
Lisa Koehler (Public)
Natalie Hardman(City of Naples)
Kari Hodgson (Collier County Public
Utilities)
Excused:
Amy Ernst(Public)
Deborah Curry (Communication&
Customer Relations)
Matt McLean(Collier County Public
Utilities)
Also Present:
Christopher Mason(Director, Collier County Community Planning &Resiliency Division)
Peter Hayden (Collier County Stormwater)
Any person who decides to appeal a decision of this Board will need a record of the proceedings
pertaining thereto and, therefore, may need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is
made,-which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based.
NOM-Collier County nor this Board shall be responsible for providing the record.
The meeting was called to order at 9:01 a.m. by the Chairman, Eric Johnson, after establishing
that a quorum of 8 had been met. JibeyAsthappan (Vice Chairman) arrived at 9:49 am.
1. Approval of Minutes from the first quarterly meeting held February 14,2025.
Chairman Eric Johnson asked if there were any questions or changes to the minutes, and
there were none. Duke Vasey made a motion to accept the minutes with no changes;
seconded by Stan Chrzanowski, the motion carried unanimously.
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2. 2025 FMPC Draft Schedule Update
• 8/1/2025 rescheduled due to Code Enforcement Magistrate Hearing needing
conference room 609/610.
• Proposed August dates are 8/8/2025 or 8/29/2025 - William Lang proposed these two
dates for our committee meeting because there are other advisory committee meetings
on August 8 & August 29. Lisa Koehler sent an email suggesting August 8 due to
hurricane season. Lang asked if anyone had any objections to setting the third quarterly
meeting for Friday, August 8. Paul Shea excused (out of town). Eric Johnson has no
objection to August 8 because August 29 is a three-day holiday. No further discussion.
Eric Johnson asked for a motion to set the next meeting for Friday,August 8; motion
requested by Stan Chrzanowski; seconded by Kenneth Bills; motion carried
unanimously.
3. Membership
• City of Marco Island Membership Vacancy Update
Lang advises that we have our municipalities participate in addition to the citizens and our
staff members. The City of Marco Island, unfortunately, lost Kelli Diederichs, Floodplain
Coordinator for Marco Island, and that vacancy has not been filled. Raul Perez, Chief
Building Official for the City of Marco Island, was going to make it to today's meeting.
They have a candidate and are currently going through the initial offer process. If they
don't have a Floodplain Coordinator identified by August, they are going to be in a bit of
trouble: 1)they need that position filled;2)I will advocate for Raul Perez to be the primary
for now, at least until we have some representation for the City of Marco Island. That is
the only membership item on the agenda.
4. Repetitive Loss Area Analysis (RLAA)WSP Deliverable Update
Lang provided an image for the committee, reiterating that the reason we are here is
because we have a certain number of repetitive loss properties,which is a FEMA category,
as it pertains to flood insurance claims that are paid out. We have a responsibility to
formulate the Floodplain Management Plan, which falls under the 500 series in our
community rating system and is a part of that plan. Before we can get to that part, we must
address the Repetitive Loss Area Analysis Study. We hired a consultant (WSP), which is
the same company that we used last year(under a different company name).WSP has been
very helpful with various groups around the county, and they have been working with us
since last year on our Repetitive Loss Area Analysis. We notified property owners that they
were in these repetitive loss areas,not specifically a loss,but their home was in a repetitive
loss structure, to garner what their experiences were in these historical flood events. We
sent out a letter with a survey and received various responses. We had three different
methods of responding: using a QR Code, sending an email with WSP, or submitting a
letter. We received 10 physical letters in the mail, which were transmitted to WSP. WSP is
at the report development stage, which involves processing data. On June 2, 2025, the
notice will end, so we will proceed by talking to WSP probably next week, making sure
that they are on point to finish the last task of the report development. If an unforeseen
issue arises that is alarming, we could always call a special meeting. Following the
Repetitive Loss Area Analysis, our next step will be to identify WSP or another company
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to obtain permits in the county for the Floodplain Management Plan. Due to our extensive
history with WSP,we hope to retain them as our vendor,but we must follow the appropriate
government protocol. That is our next step.
Keri Hodgson raised a question about the committee review of the WSP report before June
2nd because the committee would not meet again until August 8. Lang suggested that the
report may be emailed to committee members for review and comments, with a vote at the
August 8 meeting.Alternatively, the NTP date will end, but we can still review the report
at the August 8 meeting. Lang will then check if the report can be amended after the NTP
date to either complete the report or create an addendum. The third option is whether we
need to extend the NTP date, and we would have to talk to WSP about this. The worst-case
scenario is that we will have to extend the NTP date, which is why we want to make sure
that we meet the deliverables,including that the committee can look at the public report. If
the public report is too late, our objective would be to extend the NTP. We will make sure
that the committee's comments, if any, are included. In response to Keri Hodgson's
question about FEMA deadlines, there is no FEMA deadline assigned to the Repetitive
Loss Area Analysis. Still, the Floodplain Management Plan is overdue, having been
completed 10 years ago. It is supposed to be done every 5 years,but the flood maps are not
updated. So far, FEMA has understood that we don't want to update our Floodplain
Management Plan with outdated map data from 2012. We are currently in our three-year
verification cycle, which is our big audit with FEMA, and they will be here in June. We
have been submitting a series of our CRS, as required. We will write a narrative stating
that FEMA is aware our Floodplain Management Plan is delayed due to the pending update
of our flood mapping data. The deadline for our Floodplain Management Plan has passed,
but FEMA is okay with that due to the issues they created. In response to Keri Hodgson's
questions about a new due date,the deadline (if we don't have any problems or objections)
will be at the next three-year cycle in 2028. We will get it to them much sooner than that,
but our acceptable date is June 2028. What will most likely happen is that once we update
our Floodplain Management Plan at the next annual event, where we don't have to submit
every item, we will make sure that the Floodplain Management Plan is submitted at that
time. Our end goal is to have a Floodplain Management Plan later in the year. We would
start that after the RALA, and I could see this being completed at the audit time next year,
which would be June of 2026. That is what we are shooting for — best-case scenario.
Technically, we are under the three-year cycle, so long as they accept all these provisions
that we had to create, we should be okay either way. That is the goal of this committee,
the RLAA and Floodplain Management Plan (diving into goals, objectives, and strategies
for mitigation). That is when it will be interesting when we start the State Board meetings,
specifically with this committee, in response to Eric Johnson's question on whether the
committee will need to act between now and August 8. It depends.Lang will discuss it with
WSP, and the decision will depend on whether we call a special meeting to review the
Repetitive Loss Area Analysis Study immediately, or if we can wait until our August
meeting. Two things are happening: the vote of support requires a meeting since we don't
have virtual options, and the resolution. My question to WSP is whether completing the
report does not necessarily mean the committee must review it immediately. That is not a
condition for the completion, but approval is needed from this committee. It was agreed
that the committee would need adequate time to review.A discussion took place regarding
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the time required by the committee for review, and it was noted that the Repetitive Loss
Area Analysis was not included in the older plan. Repetitive loss increased significantly
after Ian; Helene & Milton also contributed to repetitive loss of property. If you increase
the number of properties, your methodology for study essentially involves a buffer zone
structure that touches other parcels, thereby increasing the total number of properties
overall.You can go from 12 to 100,depending on the methodology and how it has changed
with FEMA requirements, etc. FEMA does not necessarily have new criteria, but the
Community Rating System Coordinator Manual has not been updated since 2017. The
point is, we have a deadline for the report, but what is the deadline for feedback from the
public, and do we have to call a special meeting to have a committee review and approval?
A special meeting would deviate from the calendar. Discussed sharing via email and either
having a special meeting or sharing it and discussing at our August 8 meeting. There was
some discussion about seeing the report before public review. We may not be able to
provide before public review. Suggested that drafts were more challenging to change, and
a draft would have to be archived with the Clerk's office.
5. FEMA/ISO 2025 Community Rating Systems (CRS) Verification Cycle Visit (Three-
Year Verification Requirement) Update
Lang reported that we are currently under our three-year audit. This is our big audit, and it
happens every three years because we are a Class 5 community under CRS. Before being
a Class 5 community, we had a five-year cycle. We like our annual cycles because they
help fill the gap in our documentation gathering, so we are not scrabbling every three years
(e.g., 4-5 thousand elevation certificates for review — done annually as a requirement).
These three-year audits incorporate other items, so before April 21st, we had already
submitted the 300 series, which is the public information portion of the CRS. My director,
Chris Mason,was able to submit the 400 series on April 21 St, so we have already submitted
two of the four that we need to submit. We are currently working on the 500 series for
submission to the ISO. Then we will be working on the 600 series (which is response), and
we will be working with Emergency Management on that. Director Mason streamlined the
process, making it easier now, and I had the luxury of having him for direction in those
historic actions. It has been imperative that we have Mason on staff, so I want to thank
Mason for everything. Our end goal is to submit the 500 & 600 series by the June 1
deadline. Following this, we will conduct an in-person visit with ISO (Insurance Services
Office) and the audit vendor for FEMA, led by Craig Carpenter, on June 5. When they
come into town,they may want to visit work sites and view items under the CRS program,
which are often located within the community,such as construction sites.They are touching
base as a requirement. There shouldn't be anything significant there. We're just getting the
500 & 600 series finished next month, which will keep us swamped. No further questions.
6. Division of Emergency Management's (FDEM) "Elevate Florida" Program Update
• https://floridadisaster.maps.arcgis.com/apes/dashboards/e1222bdbeae5495c90a6
845fa42a9010
Lang provides a slide of the Florida Disaster Map for viewing. Reminder that the map was
reviewed at the last meeting, but the recap is that historically there were three grant plans
under FEMA: Hazard Mitigation Grant Program,which was a post-disaster award program
where communities would receive a certain amount of money based on a 30-day estimate
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of damages.And we would take that money to the local mitigation strategy working groups
under our LMS plan. We would usually utilize this money (in the millions) for public
infrastructure projects. Residential mitigation projects were allowed to come through the
LMS working group, but residents cannot apply directly to the state for these grant
programs. They need a sponsor, which must be a state agency, a local government entity,
or an Indian Tribal Territory. Historically, residential mitigation efforts have often failed
because homeowners find these grants to be very laborious and time-intensive. No work
can be done until you are rewarded. We had a homeowner who used HMGP during
Hurricane Ian. She is still waiting for the award from FEMA, and with the shakeup of the
current administration, she is still waiting due to the pause in all programs. The Local
Mitigation Strategy Plan is updated every five years. Amy Howard is our planner in
Emergency Management and is doing a fantastic job. We've got preliminary approval from
the state for our local mitigation strategy plan. We're waiting for FEMA to approve that. In
the meantime, all jurisdictions and entities participating in the regional mitigation strategy
working group must adopt our element plan. The Greater Dayton Fire District is engaging
with its commission or its advisory board. The city of Marco Island advised that they will
be updating their plans at their city council meeting on May 5th. We're also encouraging
all other current stakeholders in that group to adopt plans by resolution to their governing
groups.
• Collier County Local Mitigation Strategy Working Group (LMSWG)
Helene/Milton Hazard Mitigation Grant Program (HMGP) allocation to Elevate
Florida Program for Collier County Applicants
Elevate Florida Program, whereby the state stepped up through the Florida Division of
Emergency Management Mitigation Bureau to sponsor a homeowner mitigation directly,
and they have about $400 million between two grant programs that they are allocating
statewide. You can see on the screen the total number of applications statewide. They've
roughly estimated that structure elevations will cost $350,000 per structure. They are
asking the community and the LMS working group specifically. They have $400 million
between the two grant programs, and given the high volume of applications statewide, the
funds will be depleted very quickly. The state asked that we contribute our hazardous
mitigation grant money for Helene and Milton, which was allocated to each county, and
wanted us to assign all or a percentage of the funds to the Elevate Florida Program. This is
an unprecedented opportunity, as the state is doing this for residential property. We held a
vote for the LMS working group, and we are allocating 100% of our HMGP funds to the
Elevate Florida Program. We owe it to our residents under the following conditions: that
the money will go strictly to Collier County residents, and any unused portion will come
back to the LMS working group for any public infrastructure projects. The money will
always be reallocated to Collier County through the Elevate Florida Program, directly or
indirectly, returning the unused funds to Collier. Lang signed a letter to the State, basically
an MOU of those conditions of agreement. Discussion and demonstration by Lang on how
to navigate through the interactive map provided via link in the electronic version of the
agenda. The map also shows the types of mitigation opportunities: structural elevation,
mitigation reconstruction (demo and rebuild with cap of$220,000), wind mitigation (if
home is already up to code with flood) and property acquisition (pretentious because the
community has to agree to purchase the property and maintain it in perpetuity as a green
space, and we lose the tax base). In response to Kari Hodgson, the county advised that it
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would not be involved in managing the hazardous mitigation grant funds; the state will go
directly to the homeowner. We had some outreach meetings at the end of March with
FDEM hiring consultants to fulfill that obligation statewide, and the sessions were held in
Everglades City, Marco Island, and one for Collier County, which Lang attended and
answered most of the questions that the vendor did not address regarding the program. The
hazardous mitigation grant program is funded with a 75% federal share and a 25% local
share;however,this is somewhat misleading,as it suggests the homeowner only needs 25%
of the total project cost. The reality is that it is broken down into different phases (e.g.,
assessment, construction, relocation, etc.), and you must have 25% in each phase. If you
pull out at any time during those phases, you must pay back all of the money that was
contributed. The board does not have to approve. We made a recommendation to the LMS
working group [Lang, Dan Summers, Chris Mason, and others], and we briefed the county
manager on the interest in using those monies for public infrastructure projects. LMS had
$6.9 billion between those two grant programs, and the three LMS projects that we were
interested in had a $38 million deficiency in the budget. The LMS working group agreed
to allocate 100% for Elevated Florida with the understanding with FDM that we would
receive any unused portions back.
We had a meeting on April 18th,I believe,which was our second quarterly meeting for the
LMS, and we didn't meet before. Lang may need to call a special meeting since the grant
program and NOVA funding availability are set to expire on July 21, and our next meeting
is scheduled for July 18. We need to get those projects pushed through. In response to
questions about resident awareness, effects on reporting, and FEMA,Lang advised that the
residents were notified in the repetitive loss area analysis mailer. Within that mailer, we
included an LLA Explorer flyer with all the information. Lang has been receiving several
calls and was able to answer many of the questions when the vendor came representing the
state. Lang was reaching out to the state to gather information, as there were numerous
questions. Based on projections, the estimated cost is $350,000 just for elevating an
existing home with the potential of only having the availability of the LMS HMGP $100
million that was allocated, because it's going up to other communities potentially that had
harder impacts than we did from the Helene and Milton specific money. So, just doing
math with the$6.2 to $6.9 million that we got for HMGP,we estimated that we were going
to be able to potentially mitigate(not considering residents electing for a cheaper mitigation
plan or leftover money not utilized by other counties that could be reallocated to this
community). The priority is repetitive loss properties. At minimum, we get a few off the
list; don't see a significant number like in the hundreds. Many homeowners end up
demolishing their homes because they lack alternative options.We are currently in the high
200s, close to 300s. Our biggest concern, which we convey to many homeowners, is that
we want to ensure they don't misunderstand the program. The consultant did a great job of
helping them understand the cost allocation and percentage breakdown. Weary about the
follow-through, because the Rebuild Florida app program after Hurricane Irma was not
hugely successful. We are all concerned about execution at the state level, but if the state
can't accomplish this with all their resources, etc., how do communities accomplish
residential mitigation? In the future, we hope homeowners will have a direct avenue to
work through the LMS, at a minimum, for project approval, and then directly to the state
for residential mitigation. As concerns programmatic changes at FEMA, we have already
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lost the BRIC grant (Building Resilient Infrastructure in Communities), which the current
administration eliminated. We understand that Virginia, impacted by Helene, was denied
their HMGP. We are concerned about the increasing strictness within the existing program,
which is a result of an advisory council created to review FEMA. Although we agree in
the emergency management world that FEMA needed to be re-evaluated, there is a
difference between restructuring versus dismantling, and that is the argument across the
board in the emergency management community nationwide. Kevin Guthrie, the State
Emergency Manager, has been selected as a part of that advisory committee for FEMA.
With the amount of HMGP that the state uses,we are hoping that he can advocate for those
programs. And if it's not those programs, it's an equal to or better program. The worst
scenario is that it's dismantled and sent to the state, but the other method has been
pushed. We are concerned about that,but maybe that might work as well. We might be able
to get money faster. There's been a recommendation to allocate 75 percent of those monies
immediately to the state, allowing them to manage expectations and then apply for the
additional 25 percent. So, there are a lot of different discussions out there right now.
Everything's in flux. We are hoping for a reorganization at the very least. It will probably
not affect the RALA project, because by the time they're executed, our RALA will be done
on the next cycle for the Repetitive Loss Area Analysis and the next Floodplain
Management Plan (assuming we don't have further disasters). [General discussion about
FEMA restructuring versus dismantling with states handling.]
7. 2025 Collier County Local Mitigation Strategy Plan Adoption (Resolution 25-74,
dated 4/8/2025)
Lang identified the link to navigate to the new LMS plan and pointed out that Collier
County has adopted our LMS plan by resolution 25-74 and thanked Amy Howard, Collier
County Emergency Management Division, for her arduous efforts. She simultaneously
completed our Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan. The LMS is a FEMA, state,
and local plan, so this must be approved by FEMA, which is being held up due to the
programmatic changes. Our CEMP, or Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan, is a
state-to-local interaction, which has been approved. We're hoping FEMA can secure the
necessary approvals for these items, allowing us to move forward with the current
mitigation programs as they stand—no further questions.
8. Other Items/Committee Correspondence
• Future Outreach
o 5/22/2025 — CBIA/Acri sure Flood Outreach — Christopher Mason &
William Lang (City of Naples and City of Marco Island participating as
well)
We've conducted a lot of outreach this year; actually, more than we usually do in a
short period, especially considering how busy we've been after Helene &
Milton. We do have some upcoming events with the Collier Building Industry
Association. Acrisure, formerly Gulf Shore Insurance, is excellent about working
with us on flood outreach(the company issues flood insurance policies and national
flood insurance program policies). They are working with TVIA and asking that
each jurisdiction within Collier County (specifically Marco Island, City of Naples)
present some of the regulatory items to the Florida Building Code as it pertains to
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floodplain regulation. Lang, Mr. Dorsett, Steve Beckman, and the building official
for the City of Naples will be in attendance.Raul Perez will represent Marco Island,
along with Lang and Director Mason, who will present items on floodplain
regulations. We have already addressed some preemptive questions.
o 5/28/2025—Acrisure 2025 Annual Flood Symposium—Christopher Mason
&William Lang
Every year, we host a flood symposium with Acrisure, focusing on insurance-
related topics. We cover all aspects of the NFIP, including Mapping, Regulation,
and Insurance. So, we have a large portion of that presentation that we cover under
the Annual Flood Insurance Symposium. Acrisure is undoubtedly doing a lot of
outreach, which will check the box for our next three-year annual cycle if needed.
However, we may also submit these items for this three-year cycle. So, we will get
credit under Activity 330. In response to questions on the location of meetings,
CBIS will be at Mercato, and the Acri sure Symposium will be held at a church
right across from the Acri sure offices. CBIS has requested to send out location
information via email to all committee members.
Adjournment
There being no further business for the good of the County,the Floodplain Management Planning
Committee Hearing was adjourned at 10:03 am. Motion to Adjourn was made by Duke Vasey and
seconded by Linda Orlich.No discussion or objections. Motion to adjourn passed unanimously.
Floodplain Manag lent Planning Committee
I . man,Eric Johnson
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