BCC Minutes 10/07/2024 (Hurricane Milton)October 7, 2024
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TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
Naples, Florida, October 7, 2024
EMERGENCY MEETING - HURRICANE MILTON
LET IT BE REMEMBERED that the Board of County
Commissioners, in and for the County of Collier, and also acting as
the Board of Zoning Appeals and as the governing board(s) of such
special districts as have been created according to law and having
conducted business herein, met on this date at 11:30 a.m., in
SPECIAL SESSION in Building "F" of the Government Complex,
East Naples, Florida, with the following Board members present:
Chairman: Chris Hall
Rick LoCastro
Dan Kowal
William L. McDaniel, Jr.
Burt L. Saunders
ALSO PRESENT:
Amy Patterson, County Manager
John Mullins, Communications, Government & Public Affairs
Jeffrey A. Klatzkow, County Attorney
Crystal K. Kinzel, Clerk
Troy Miller, Communications & Customer Relations
COLLIER COUNTY
Board of County Commissioners
Community Redevelopment Agency Board (CRAB)
Airport Authority
SPECIAL MEETING AGENDA
Board of County Commission Chambers
Collier County Government Center
3299 Tamiami Trail East, 3rd Floor
Naples, FL 34112
October 7, 2024
11:30 AM
Commissioner Chris Hall, District 2; — Chair
Commissioner Burt Saunders, District 3; — Vice Chair
Commissioner Rick LoCastro, District 1
Commissioner Dan Kowal, District 4; — CRAB Co -Chair
Commissioner William L. McDaniel, Jr., District 5; — CRAB Co -Chair
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Lunch Recess scheduled for 12:00 Noon to 1:00 P.M.
1. Pledge of Allegiance
2. Board of County Commissioners
2.A. Presentation: An update on the status of Hurricane Milton and its potential impacts on Collier
County (2024-1592)
2.13. Determination of Necessity of Declaring a State of Emergency
(2024-1593)
3. Adjourn
Inquiries concerning changes to the Board's Agenda should be made to the County Manager's Office at
252-8383.
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MS. PATTERSON: Chair, you have a live mic.
CHAIRMAN HALL: All right. Let's call this meeting to
order.
MS. PATTERSON: Commissioners, let's begin with the
Pledge of Allegiance.
(The Pledge of Allegiance was recited in unison.)
Item #2A
PRESENTATION: AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF
HURRICANE MILTON AND ITS POTENTIAL IMPACTS ON
COLLIER COUNTY - MOTION FOR A MANDATORY
EVACUATION OF ZONES A & B BY COMMISSIONER
LOCASTRO; SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
SAUNDERS/KOWAL – APPROVED
MS. PATTERSON: Good morning, Commissioners.
So we have several items on our agenda today as well as several
guests here in the chambers that I'm certain are going to want to have
a few words to say to the public and to the Board of County
Commissioners. At your pleasure, we can get started with
Mr. Summers who is going to make a presentation and give us an
update on the status of Hurricane Milton and its potential impacts on
Collier County.
MR. SUMMERS: Commissioners, good morning. For the
record, Dan Summers, director of Emergency Management for
Collier County.
Troy and I are going to tweak a few things here, but let me open
up with a few comments to date. At 11:15 -- I was just on a
conference call with the Florida Division of Emergency Management
as well as National Hurricane Center. And a couple of things that
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are hot off the press: Number one, they do expect the storm now to
reach Category 5 strength later today, rapid intensification. That's
number one.
Number two, we have talked about the fact that the angle of
approach on this particular storm continues to be relatively historic,
like, since the 1800s has been reported.
There has to be -- I have to pick the middle of the planning
assumptions and be on the -- err of side of safety. We're going to
continue to see ticks in the track maybe north and south. We're
going to continue to see increases and decreases in forward motion,
and at some point we have to make an operational decision based on
a set of planning assumptions, albeit whether -- we don't ever want to
be late, and it's good if we're on time, and it's much better to be -- err
on the side of safety.
As a rule of thumb, I always do planning purposes for one
category stronger and build at least four hours of decision time or
other evacuation time that may be necessary.
So if I'm off by four hours or off by one category, if I'm below
that, if we are below that, that's great, but we want to make sure that
we, in this particular event, especially, build in a margin of error with
any of our protective actions.
You are going to see the storm grow in size. So while we have
a tendency to focus on the track, we're going to be on the periphery,
regardless. Even as much as 50, 75, or 125 miles north or south will
have a big impact still on Collier County just based on onshore flow
at this particular angle.
The Hurricane Center also said that there is a possibility of
storm surge values increasing throughout the day with the first set of
storm surge models being run already. But again, we are in a very,
very fluid situation here where we normally have a parallel type
event. This particular angle of approach -- or perpendicular
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approach is quite scary.
And then we've had all of this preexisting rainfall, so don't
forget we are extremely saturated. Even light winds might generate
some challenges later on today.
So let me -- I'll give Troy a second here to get me back to home
base. And again, short of a few things that are probably being
updated at 11 o'clock advisory, this is pretty close for us, I think, to
make some decisions.
MR. MILLER: We need to get some typo fixed, Dan. Sorry.
MR. SUMMERS: That's okay. That's all right. We just had
one typo in here.
Moving forward, as always, I talked to you a little bit about
lifelines. They're in good shape. The only concern that we want to
keep an eye on is power, energy, and fuel. FP&L and LCEC, I
spoke with yesterday. Obviously, they're recalling crews from North
Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia.
And I was up in North Carolina briefly, and I will tell you, it is
just hard to fathom what those folks are going through.
Water, food, shelter, no impacts at this point. HAZMAT is
good. No mass casualty. No mass medical. All of our services are
normal. And, again, some flight delays in travel. Our Road and
Bridge folks have -- Marshal is here and has sharp eyes on target with
any of the areas that we experienced localized flooding in before, and
his team certainly did a monumental job.
Real quick, the backup here, Governor DeSantis declared -- did
the executive order yesterday. For our partners up north, they have a
double whammy, if you will, with the existing debris on the ground
and what they're trying to clean and expedite and make that area safe
for the next event.
We remind the public, local government units, that if you had
damage before, you need to record a baseline damage of what you
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had before and your conditions now. That's the same for county
government, municipal government. This is a reset. FEMA does
not merge disaster events. They will not combine previous damages,
and your insurance company will not combine previous damages.
So again, you've got it keep both of these incidents well documented
as separate events.
The state has done a phenomenal job in mobilizing resources but
also told us that contractor assets across the southeast U.S. are
running thin, and they are in conversations with Department of
Defense to possibly see what they can help us with as well.
As we know, over a thousand active duty troops were deployed
just the day before yesterday in North Carolina. So we will continue
to keep an eye on supplies and equipment and resource demands. I
know some of our counties to the north are also struggling a little bit
with cleanup contractor resource identification.
For our families and guests, again, some important reminders for
them. Important papers, cash, a family communications plan, four to
seven days’ supply; food, water, and medicines. Remember you
don't have to travel hundreds of miles for evacuation. More than
half of the Florida peninsula is impacted from this event, and it is
expected to still remain a hurricane once it crossed -- once it crosses,
rather, the Florida East Coast.
Make sure you're registered with Alert Collier for our updates.
Our social media channels not only for the county, but the Sheriff
will echo on his very large social media platform, our releases.
Thank you, Sheriff, for the hospitality on that.
Remind folks to help their neighbors. Be safe and be patient.
These things are going to take time depending on the magnitude of
impact, and with concurrent disasters, some of this cleanup and
discovery might take a little bit longer.
Lots of helpful information at ready.gov or collierem.gov, and
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our own 311 team will be on the ball addressing information and
resources for the general public.
Just a quick reminder about stormwater impacts. Again,
onshore flow diminishes our drain. Hats off to our Stormwater
group as well as Water Management District who has been
monitoring this for days for draw dawn. But, again, we're getting
those rains, and we're going to continue to get those rains through the
event.
Protective measures, saturated soils, as I have mentioned, the
4- to 7-foot storm surge prediction over land. Let's not get focused
on tides with onshore flow because it becomes a mute discussion at
some point. So our planning and concentration should remain at that
4- to 7-foot over land as a potential. The tornadic activity has
always occurred. Fortunately, the last couple of events did not
generate a tornado with touchdown or landfall, but those tornado
watches and warnings are going to pop up through the event.
And, again, anything on the fringe that Collier County has is still
going to -- the fringe of the cone is still going to provide some
impacts to us.
The tract deviations. Here again, in this cone you've seen some
northern and southern jumps. If you'll notice, between 1 p.m. -- I'm
sorry -- 1 a.m. Wednesday and 1 p.m. Tuesday, you see a big gap,
and that's the indication that the Hurricane Center's predicting this
rapid increase in forward motion.
Again, until this thing gets a little bit closer, which also puts us
in a little much -- much more precarious position, we have to play
this as if we are in the cone. This is too close to say, "Oh, we're on
the outside of the cone. We're going to be okay." We can't look at
that. We want to focus on the arrival of tropical storm force winds
and onshore flow.
And I'll let you take a look at that, but if you'll also notice in the
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graphic, there is the M, meaning a major hurricane event Category 3
or above. And so we're looking at 3 or above. And again, this is
the current static estimate, subject to change, at 1 p.m. on
Wednesday.
Evacuation zones, we've talked about this time after time
through the season, but we want to remind individuals to know their
zone. Our A zone ironically aligns with U.S. 41 and to the west.
Our B zone concern is the Naples Bay/Gordon River area that we've
had experience with localized flooding there before.
So our protective action recommendations that I'm going to
present to you today are Zones A and B. Again, just in anticipation
of the storm surge concerns that we have. If we're lucky and we
don't get the heavy winds, it still doesn't mean that we're not subject
to this stormwater in- -- I'm sorry -- the storm surge inundation.
This is from the National Hurricane Center on peak storm surge
values for our Collier County community. It's showing 4 to 7 feet;
however, that range does go 4 to 9, and that's what we want to be on
the safe side about with this particular A and B zone coming right up
to the 9-foot mark possibly.
I want to focus, again, that we don't want to get honed in too
much on the cone. Let's look at the fringe, and our protective
actions are based on 45 to 50-mile-an-hour sustained winds or even
gusts of wind. So I hate using the term "hunker down," but we want
to be -- I want to have our community in a safe environment and a
safe posture before we get any of these gusts of 40 to 50, all right,
especially as saturated as we are.
This is the wind field timing. And I want to let you know that
you will see changes in this in the forecast. We've seen the
Wednesday line, and we've seen the Tuesday line fluctuate, and that's
only going to continue. So my goal here is to find a reasonable
planning assumption. And this is based on, if you'll notice at the top,
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the earliest reasonable. So I want to be a little bit conservative in
this discussion because of the changes in forward speed that are
likely with this storm.
It is part of our plan to have a 10- to 12-hour clearance time
from the time of our evacuation notice from the times of the winds.
Anything could change, but our goal is to have 10 to 12 hours in that
clearance time, hence my recommendation coming forward will be
the 6 a.m. evacuation time tomorrow morning.
We're blessed today to have a “ready, set, go” environment, and
I also will talk to you a minute -- in a minute about voluntary
evacuation discussions. So, again, you're going to see this model
change, but you'll notice that we're in the 80 percent -- near the
80 percent probability of storm force winds going into Tuesday
evening. And if it changes four to six hours, it changes, but, again,
we want to have our community in a safe posture.
I am recommending for your consideration a voluntary
precautionary evacuation, and I believe the County Manager has
spoken with the municipalities, and they're in support of that. We
want to encourage residents that have concern and have resources
that this is a good time now to leave our area and go well inland with
family or friends, hotels, et cetera. And any mobile home residents
that have had prior flooding experience, this is also a good time for
them to mobilize before we get into any formal evacuation
recommendations.
And again, we all have recent flooding history. We've lived
that. We don't want to go through that again. We don't want our
public safety partners to have to effect unnecessary rescues if at all
possible. So again, voluntary. So this is our encouragement that if
you have the time and the resources and the availability and we can
lower census within our community at this point, it's time to do that.
If you have a plan with your resources to get well inland, go
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over your checklist, don't panic, mobilize, and go ahead and have
time to get to your destination. We have concurrence, as I've
mentioned, from the City of Marco on this voluntary discussion,
Everglades City. We recommend this for Goodland, Chokoloskee,
and as well as conversations with the City of Naples.
Moving forward, again, my recommendation is for tomorrow
morning at 6 a.m. to begin a mandatory evacuation of Zones A and B.
Florida Statute does not use the word "mandatory," but we have
historically used that term "mandatory" to put emphasis on the fact
that now is the time to go. And I will tell you that, again, as we
monitor conditions today, it is not out of the realm -- I hope this is not
the case -- that we have to back that up. But what I don't want to do
is put anything in motion in the hours in which it's dark. It's just not
a safe thing to do. We don't want people mobilizing and loading
during evening hours. We want to keep this in daylight hours for
safety.
We ask individuals to be as responsible as they possibly can, be
as self-sufficient as they possibly can, and let's save our resources for
those unknown and emergency situations.
We ask residents, if they do evacuate and we get a significant
impact, listen to our messaging, but don't be in a hurry to return.
Our utility organizations may have time -- may need time for
assessments, and you might be a whole lot more comfortable where
you are until we evaluate lifelines, utility systems, et cetera. And
again, we will continue to message what we call an "all clear" or
"safe to turn," and those conversations will be with our law
enforcement partners as well as our utility partners.
Shelter locations, we are working on shelters, but remember
shelters are a refuge of last resort. We will announce those shelter
openings tomorrow early, but we are mobilizing to get our teams'
supplies and equipment in place. As you know, Collier County
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Schools is closed through Thursday, I believe -- Thursday or Friday.
So Collier County Schools is working with us to get those facilities in
a readiness posture. But we will announce those shelter sites.
Again, they're not very comfortable. Space it limited, and the
number of buildings is limited. So if you can find alternate
locations, we highly recommend that.
Part four of my recommendation to you is to go ahead and
declare a local state of emergency without any prohibitions or
conditions at this time. Typically, as you did during the last event,
the Chair, the County Manager, and the Sheriff could have
discussions on curfew or other prohibitions and enact those when
needed. Authorize the County Manager this time to take actions to
waive our CAT fees and EMS transportation fees from a shelter.
This is not for a regular EMS call. But if we have a critical patient at
a shelter and we need transport, we historically have waived that
billing.
Also, we have already incurred some expenses with this being
for the weekend for me to get supplies and equipment together and,
sadly, one of our national contractors defaulted today. Penske Truck
Rental, nationally corporate, refused to do business with us today,
and I'm really, really disappointed in that. That put me in a pinch
with some rental equipment that we needed, but we'll overcome that
and address that at a later date.
So I do have some -- a forgiveness here for a couple things that I
needed to rent over the weekend that may squeeze the purchasing
policy, but I thought it was in the best interest to get our supplies and
equipment in place.
We plan on activating the county's Emergency Operations
Center and going 24 hours tomorrow at 6 a.m., and we'll coordinate
further briefings with you and the County Manager. Whether we do
that teleconference, really, or one-way communications, we will
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follow up with you as we get into the swing of routines here.
That's a lot. Let me stop for any questions or concerns.
Obviously, we're taking this -- my team is full up. Everything in the
playbook right now is being evaluated and put to work. Our partner
agencies have always been terrific, and we're going to continue to
engage, move forward. And if we luck up on a storm track change,
that's good. But I want to make sure that we're in a safe position
moving forward.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Hey, Dan, I've got a couple questions for
you. When you said the baseline, to establish your baseline, so if
people had damage during Helene, that's a separate damage than what
they can anticipate if they get anything here. I just want to make
sure I communicate with people.
MR. SUMMERS: Yes, sir, that's a good point. Let me clarify
that just a little bit. So if you had some pictures or documentation
from the previous event, that's good. I know it's raining outside
today, but now get a current picture of your current status. Do you
have tarp on roof? Do you have other things that are in place so that
today's damages or the damages moving forward can be documented
based on current -- current situations?
CHAIRMAN HALL: Okay, great. And then would you -- can
you give us a little bit better explanation of "mandatory"?
MR. SUMMERS: Yes, sir. As I mentioned, statutorily
"mandatory" is not identified. It has historical always been the only
default term that we have that is -- it is our strongest
recommendation. We cannot pull you from your home. It is our
strongest recommendation to communicate two signals: It is the
highest concern for your public healthy and safety to leave the area,
and number two, it's an indicator that our ability to respond to your
public safety needs, emergency personnel, supplies, and equipment
may be limited. So our ability to get to you in a life-threatening
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emergency may be challenged.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Great, thank you.
And then we received some communication from Public
Utilities about hurricane debris and to be patient with the
twice-a-week removal. And so I know that some things change after
the storm. So as of right now -- here she comes. I just want to
make sure that we communicate with the public --
MR. SUMMERS: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN HALL: -- like you want us to.
Thanks, Kari.
MS. HODGSON: Good afternoon, Commissioners. Kari
Hodgson, your director for Solid Waste.
As of right now, we're asking residents not to put out any further
Helene debris. We're working as late as possible to remove the
remaining piles that are out, and we've asked that no further bulk
collection be put out this week. There's a high probability that we'll
be canceling curbside services on Wednesday and be coming out with
that notification. Does that answer everything?
CHAIRMAN HALL: Perfect, yes. I just want to make sure
that when we share information, as we're going to, that it's just like
you want us to. So that clears it up. Thank you so much.
MS. HODGSON: Yes. And we'll be asking residents to watch
all of our local media for how to separate debris post Milton to see
how that we can manage that debris for our residents.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Great. Thank you so much.
MS. PATTERSON: Commissioners, would you like to
hear -- we have elected officials here in the room, including our
Sheriff, if you want to take this time before we move into
determining the local state of emergency. They may have some
comments for the record.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Yes.
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MS. PATTERSON: Sheriff.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Good morning.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Good morning, sir.
CHAIRMAN HALL: It's still morning.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Thank you for the opportunity. Kevin
Rambosk, Collier County Sheriff.
I just wanted to let you know that we have been in
communication with the County Manager throughout the weekend,
EM, all the fire rescue and EMS chiefs, all law enforcement chiefs
throughout the county. We continue to work together and have
developed a plan with the changes to the potential of stormwater
surge, a couple of things that we're going to do, and particularly as it
relates to those who may want to either voluntarily leave their zones
or have put in place a mandatory movement.
We have created, since Ian, a coastal security plan, and it
stretches from the North Collier boundary down south through the
City of Naples, down, everything west of 41 and south of 41, down
into Marco Island and then into Everglades City. What that means is
the three law enforcement agencies are going to work together. We
increase patrol and staffing, and it certainly depends on the areas that
require it relative to our resources.
So I say that to give our residents some comfort in that if they
choose to want to leave, we are going to have extra of our staff, along
with City of Naples and Marco Island, out through the
neighborhoods, particularly on the coastal areas because that's
historically where we have seen a predominance of damage due to
water and this time maybe water and wind. And then should we
choose to make a request for a curfew, we'll certainly do that through
the process. We've been working with your attorney to develop that,
so if we need that, we'll put that in place.
I would concur with a majority of what Dan Summers has given
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you as far -- the public as recommendations. There will become a
point where we may not be able to get to you, not because we don't
want to. We won't be able to get physically to you.
So should you choose to stay, if we encounter you prior to that,
we will ask for your name, contact information, and next of kin so
that we can follow up should we need to do that.
We are not going to fool around. Ian, I think, taught a lot of
lessons about water that we have not seen in this community before.
So our plans revolve a lot around that. We will be going into
12-hour shifts. That probably won't be until Tuesday night. We
also have a rural area and a coastal area plan, again, for the purpose
of distribution of resources. One, so that we don't burn everybody
out, because it could be a long time for this thing to be over and the
potential of yet another in the pipeline. So we need to finish out this
season and don't want to burn everybody out.
CHAIRMAN HALL: We're good?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Carry on.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Thank you, Sheriff.
MS. PATTERSON: We do have representatives also
from -- our Florida House representatives, if either of you have any
comments.
MS. MELO: Thank you. Representative Melo, District 82.
I'm just here to give you-all my support. Anything you need, please
don't hesitate to call or text. My office line has also been forwarded
to my cell. Wish me luck on that. But if you need anything, please
reach out. I'm here. FPL, everyone is texting me currently and
reassuring me that they are all here for us, whatever we need. Thank
you.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Thank you.
MS. BENARROACH: Good morning. Yvette Benarroch,
Republican candidate elect for District 81.
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Thank you for the opportunity to be here today and for
communicating with our residents. I want to repeat what everybody
has said. District 81 is actually all in Zone A, so I want to make sure
that everyone listens to the information here. It's very important.
The governor's office and the State house is ready to assist, so please
make sure you hear the emergency warnings because this has -- this
has to be taken serious, and you can always reach out to me also, and
I look forward to working with all of you soon. Thanks.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Thanks, Yvette.
MS. PATTERSON: Clerk Kinzel.
MS. KINZEL: Thank you, Commissioners. Crystal Kinzel,
Clerk.
And I just wanted to make the public aware, today at noon the
20th Judicial Circuit has shut down and will not reopen until
Monday. According to their regular calendar, there was a holiday on
Friday. So the storm event will be Tuesday through Thursday for
them. Many services for our office will be available on the website.
We plan on probably closing -- depending on your decision
today -- but probably 5 today, other than essential personnel that will
be either in the EOC or taking care of business with the county. But
our satellites, we have some also in low-lying areas, so those will
close at 5 today, probably not reopen till Monday. And we do
anticipate reopening Monday.
But we want to give staff the time to recover with their personal
housing and everything over the weekend so we can start and open
fresh. But remember, the website is collierclerk.com. You can pay
fines. You can do business over the website for as long as we have
power and you have access.
So I urge everyone to take care of business today before
5 o'clock. We're open and fully staffed. So please, take care of
business today so you can stay safe in your homes for the remainder
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of the event.
Thank you.
MS. PATTERSON: Chair, we do have a representative from
the United Way here that signed a speaker slip as well.
MS. MENSCH: Thank you. Good afternoon, Commissioners.
Thank you for the opportunity to speak today as we prepare for the
impact of Hurricane Milton.
My name is Tiffany Mensch, and I'm the president and CEO of
the United Way of Collier and the Keys.
We stand ready to support our community and respond in the
aftermath of the storm. We're working closely with our 211 call
center to ensure our community has access to the most accurate and
up-to-date information on available resources. 211 is a free helpline.
It's available 24 hours a day, 365 days a year providing
nonemergency support to anyone in need, and it will remain fully
operational through the storm and the recovery phase.
One of our primary initiatives post storm will be conducting a
digital wellness and needs assessment survey across Collier County.
This will allow us to collect real-time data on the most urgent basic
needs of our residents and prioritize assistance to our most vulnerable
neighbors.
With secured funding, we can distribute e-gift cards via e-mail
and text, which allows us to quickly address essential needs, such as
food, water, and other necessary household items.
In the event of a presidential disaster declaration in Collier
County, our support will extend to those assisting individuals in
registering for FEMA, SBA, D-SNAP, et cetera. We will also
provide guidance on understanding insurance policies, navigating
declaration pages, and accessing disaster legal services.
Our goal is to make it easier for residents to navigate the
recovery process and provide clear guidance and support every step
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of the way. We welcome volunteers to join us in this effort, helping
with everything from assisting residents with paperwork to offering
emotional support during what will be an extremely challenging time
for many.
So to make this level of support possible, we invite our
community to go to our website to uwcollierkeys.org to learn more
about our resources, to donate, to volunteer. And as we face this
storm together, United Way of Collier and the Keys is here to serve.
With the support of our community and our partners, we will work
tirelessly to ensure that no one is left behind in the wake of this
disaster.
Thank you.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Thanks, Tiffany.
MS. PATTERSON: Fire Commissioner Dearborn.
(No response.)
MS. PATTERSON: All right. Very good. Very good.
(No response.)
MS. PATTERSON: All right. Good.
I'm going to turn it back over to Mr. Summers to talk about the
local state of emergency, and then we've got a couple of
housekeeping matters for county operations as well as the Board
meeting tomorrow.
MR. SUMMERS: Thank you.
And I would be remiss if I didn't mention -- and, again, Ashley
and Tiffany are one of the right arms in Collier County's recovery
process.
Remember, too, that you have endorsed a resolution to use the
Community Foundation of Collier County as your financial
philanthropic arm, and they have a portal to take financial donations
that will be trickled out to these organizations in order to help meet
those unmet needs. So you already have a philanthropic partner
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ready to go to receive any financial donations to help our community
in recovery as well as our volunteer agencies assisting in disaster in
Collier County; collier disaster strong.
We're very blessed to have all of our volunteer partners so well
engaged with us, and our volunteer agency coordinators truly pulled
this together as providing services to our residents that government
simply can't handle or can't address -- process, so thanks to them.
Lastly, our County Attorney has kindly prepared state of
emergency documents and subsequent proclamations to go with that.
Jeff, if I could put you on the spot to go over those with the
Board. But we're in support of those in total.
MR. KLATZKOW: The first is a proclamation resolution
declaring this local state of emergency that we would like you to
enact. It also deals with people charging more than they really
should as far as markups go, which, unfortunately, is common in
situations like this.
The second document that we'd like you to
consider -- emergency services.
The second one is a resolution which allows us to open a new
hurricane appropriation fund during the hurricane and provide for
transportation fee waivers for CAT system and EMS for
special-needs people.
The third document we would like you to consider is a
resolution authorizing the -- removing debris caused by the hurricane.
And, lastly, I have a resolution that would adopt an emergency
curfew. We don't know when that would be, so I would ask that the
Board authorize the Chair to sign it if and when needed. And that's
it.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Do you want to do them en
masse?
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Mr. Chairman, can I ask a
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quick question before we take up -- you mentioned the EMS fees, and
you mentioned individuals with special needs. But I thought that
the -- when it was being presented to us that if anyone is in our
shelter and needs emergency transport, that they would not be
charged. Is that -- or do you have to be one of the special needs --
MR. KLATZKOW: It's convalescent transport, which is what
we've traditionally done. The Board could expand that if they want.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I'm not suggesting we
expand that. I just want to be clear on what we're doing, because I
misunderstood what was stated.
MR. SUMMERS: And I'm sorry. Maybe I kind of lumped
that together. So if we -- I think a special-needs shelter or a general
population, if we have someone critical. It's rare. Maybe we've
done one or two of those. If they do come up, I'm certainly
comfortable if it's a general population shelter as well as special
needs. I don't think that volume is significant. This is for a
pre-hospital care medical visit. This is not to take them back to
home. We'll use a convalescent service for that. This is an
emergency medical call from a shelter to the hospital --
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Okay. So the resolution --
MR. SUMMERS: -- is our intent.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: -- would provide EMS
transport in the general population shelter as well as in the
special-needs shelter for individuals that would be transported to the
hospital.
MR. SUMMERS: To a hospital for emergency medical care.
And my apologies; I did not clarify that.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner LoCastro.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: I just wanted to be clear on
the mandatory evacuation. Are we voting on that? Because I mean,
the majority of my district is in Zone A; majority of our district,
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Yvette. You know, we'll be in close contact. And -- but are
we -- so I like all your recommendations here, but I mean, my
phone's blowing up from citizens saying, "Is it voluntary, or is it
mandatory?"
Are we going to decide that right now? Because this is your
recommendation, but we have to vote on it. So I agree with all the
resolutions. Those we do every storm for debris and this and that.
But I think we need to be very clear to citizens that at 6 a.m.
tomorrow, it's mandatory evacuation in A and B or not, you know,
because that's a -- that's a very specific thing that needs to get out,
so...
MR. SUMMERS: And I'll look to the Sheriff to see if there's
any last-minute concerns. But it is my recommendation that you
vote on the mandatory. We've quantified what mandatory means.
So we've put our strongest language forward. And, obviously, we
can't remove people from their home. And we have advised them
that there are potentials that we may not be able to get to them.
We'll do our best effort, but we may not. So I would like to continue
to use that language and would welcome your endorsement of that. I
think it communicates the urgency to our community.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: And along with that, then, we
would also -- if I'm reading your slides correctly, that's when the
shelters would be announced to be open?
MR. SUMMERS: We will announce the shelters. Now, there
doesn't have to be shelter opening at the time of mobilization of
evacuation. Not everybody's going to be sitting in the driveway and
ready to go, so that is a gradual process, and we want to give our
teams time to make everything ready, be ready to register.
And, most importantly, to our -- to the general public, we need
you to be responsible to understand that this is a shelter of last resort.
Please work to try to find resources with family, friends, hotels, or
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other accommodations away from the storm surge area.
As I mentioned, we hide from the wind and run from the water.
So again, we will make those shelters available. We will announce
those. But again, our desire is to have folks be as responsible as they
can, and self-sufficient.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: The doors wouldn't unlock at
6 a.m. tomorrow?
MR. SUMMERS: The doors will not be unlocked at 6 a.m.
tomorrow. We will announce that. Remember, we have a lot of
staff that's doing county duty, county securing, school direct securing
staff, making buildings ready, and then to do some setup. So we
have a lot of pieces and parts to put together before we open the
doors.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: I just think that's the first
thing that we should decide, and then everything else, to me, trickles
down from that.
MS. PATTERSON: Understood. So --
Item #2B
PROCLAMATION/RESOLUTION 2024-190:
DETERMINATION OF NECESSITY OF DECLARING A
STATE OF EMERGENCY - MOTION TO APPROVE THE
PROCLAMATION RESOLUTION BY COMMISSIONER
MCDANIEL; SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS-
APPROVED
RESOLUTION 2024-191: APPROPRIATION FUND AND FEE
WAIVERS - MOTION TO APPROVE THE DEBRIS REMOVAL
AND EMS TRANSPORT TO HOSPITAL FOR 911 CARE BY
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL; SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS – ADOPTED
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RESOLUTION 2024-192: DEBRIS REMOVAL - MOTION TO
APPROVE THE DEBRIS REMOVAL BY COMMISSIONER
MCDANIEL; SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS
– ADOPTED
RESOLUTION 2024-193: CURFEW – MOTION TO
AUTHORIZE THE CHAIR TO SIGN IMPLEMENTAION OF A
CURFEW IN COORDINATION WITH THE SHERIFF BY
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL; SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER LOCASTRO – ADOPTED
CHAIRMAN HALL: All right. So we'll entertain a motion to
declare the state of emergency for the county, and then we'll take all
of the resolutions in a second one -- in a separate motion, if that's
fine.
MS. PATTERSON: As well as the evacuation -- the mandatory
evacuations.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Yeah. We're going to do that one first.
MS. PATTERSON: Okay. All right. Very good.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Yeah. I mean, I'll make a
motion that tomorrow at 6 a.m. we -- mandatory evacuation for
Zones A and B only would go into effect.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Second.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Second it.
CHAIRMAN HALL: All right. We have a motion and a
second for the mandatory. And again, the mandatory is not saying
"must." We're not going to send the Sheriff's Office to your house
and make you leave, but it's our highest concern, and it's also our way
of telling the public we may not be able to get to you if you decide to
stay.
So with a motion and a second, all in favor, say aye.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
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COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN HALL: Moved.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Mr. Chairman, if I can just
add something. The Sheriff said it best when he said we learned a
lot of lessons from Ian. How many of us -- all of us were in the
Emergency Operations Center, and 311 calls were coming in from
areas that should have evacuated. And in some cases it was
people -- and I mentioned this at the last BCC meeting. Maybe they
weren't in an area of storm surge, but you also evacuate when power
keeps you alive.
And how many people called 311 and said, "Oh, my God. Our
power's out, and my husband's on a ventilator, has some sort of
mechanical device that needs power and needs to be fixed
immediately."
So, you know, to just make it clear to everybody that's watching,
you might not live on the water, but if power is of great concern to
something that is emergent for you or medical, we have no guarantee
that power can be restored to your particular home instantaneously if
it goes out. And so those are the folks -- it's not just about the storm
surge. It's also about what you require in your home to be able to
survive. Because just as you said, Dan, LCEC or FPL isn't going to
be able to race over to your particular home and flick the switch, as
some people who were calling 311, they were saying, "We need FPL
to turn on the switch, you know, for our block," and it doesn't work
that way, so --
MR. SUMMERS: And, again, even at the shelters, power
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could be limited.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Absolutely, yeah.
MR. SUMMERS: So again, you are better off to make that
action plan; family, friends, other resources well inland. The shelter
is a refuge. It is not a hotel. It does not have 100 percent backup
power. In some cases heating and cooling will be limited. Cooling,
rather, would be limited. So we will do our very best. And I can
assure you, our school district partners are awesome and will do
everything that they can, but let's manage those expectations that the
shelter resources are, indeed, very limited --
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner McDaniel.
MR. SUMMERS: -- to our capability.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes. Are we going to
activate the special-needs shelters sooner than tomorrow at 6 a.m.?
MR. SUMMERS: So we are actively checking in with all of
our special-needs clients. We have a way to poll them. We'll work
on that polling this afternoon to find out if, in fact, they need
assistance. We triage it. Do they need assistance? Is
transportation a necessity?
And again, our goal will be -- because we've got power services,
we've got everything we would need right now, our goal will be to
address that tomorrow.
But we have real people, real bodies talking with those
individuals. If they -- when they receive our robocall, and they may
need some assistance, one of our special-needs call center folks will
reach out, talk to them, evaluate their particular plan or situation, and
make them ready for next steps.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: So there is a list of folks who
have registered with us --
MR. SUMMERS: Oh, yes.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: -- that are of special need?
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MR. SUMMERS: Yes. And we are very aggressive. That is
a beginning to end. That means making sure they get home safely,
making sure that they -- we follow up on them even after they got
home. So that is a very robust engagement.
Their phones are busy right now, but we're going to continue to
reach out to those clients, and we take that service quite seriously.
And I have given that group carte blanche to do just about anything
from run medications to find oxygen to -- boy, procurement's going
to get after me. You know, get them an Uber if we need to.
So we take their basic health, safety, and welfare seriously. I've
used the term, "We provide them the lifeboat, not the love boat," but
we're on it.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Amen. You push
procurement all you need. We'll keep them off you.
MR. SUMMERS: Boy, I'm glad I got that on the record.
Thank you. We'll move forward from there.
CHAIRMAN HALL: All right. So can we get a motion to
approve the other three or four resolutions.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: En masse, so moved.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Second.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Yes. Moved and seconded to approve
all of them. All in favor, say aye.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN HALL: So moved.
MR. KLATZKOW: And would the Board authorize the Chair
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to sign the curfew if and when needed?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: That was part the deal.
CHAIRMAN HALL: That was part of it.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes. Do you need a separate
motion for that? Excuse me. I didn't mean to -- do you need a
separate motion for that?
MR. KLATZKOW: I would like a separate motion for that.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I make a separate motion that
we authorize the Chair to institute the Sheriff and communi- -- or
institute the --
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Curfew.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: -- curfew, thank you -- the
curfew in conjunction with the Sheriff.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Second.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Moved and seconded. All in favor, say
aye.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN HALL: So moved.
MR. SUMMERS: Thank you for the support and thank you for
the team effort.
Item #2C (ADDED ITEM)
TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY MANAGER OR HER
DESIGNEE TO APPROVE FUTURE BUDGET AMENDMENTS
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FOR THE REALLOCATION OF FUNDING BETWEEN COST
CENTERS AND PROJECTS WITHIN DISASTER RECOVERY
FUND 1813 TO EXPEDITE DISASTER RECOVERY – MOTION
TO APPRPVE BY COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS; SECONDED
BY COMMISSIONER LOCASTRO – APPROVED
MS. PATTERSON: Commissioners, that brings us to Item 2C,
which is a recommendation to authorize the County Manager or her
designee to approve future budget amendments for the reallocation of
funding between cost centers and projects within Disaster Recovery
Fund 1813 to expedite disaster recovery.
This is actually an item that we had on the agenda for tomorrow,
and we're going to talk about that for a second. But in the interest of
being sure that we have everything in place, we moved it up for
approval today, but Mr. Johnson can just give you a quick
explanation.
MR. JOHNSON: Good afternoon, Commissioners. For the
record, Christopher Johnson, your director of Corporate Financial
Management Services.
As the County Manager stated, this item was on your consent
agenda for tomorrow's meeting. We're moving it up so we can kind
of get ahead of the budget appropriation for this storm.
Just for a little bit of background here, our Disaster Recovery
Fund was established to centralize disaster expenses and
documentation. We actually established this with Hurricane Ian.
Currently, in the FY '25, budget we have $40 million in play,
around -- I'm sorry -- across 30-plus divisional cost centers, and
unfortunately, five different event project numbers.
So what this authorization would do would allow us to
administratively move and adjust these budgets between the cost
centers and the projects within that fund. With that said, any new
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money going into the fund or any -- recognition of any revenues from
FEMA insurance, et cetera, would require Board approval and the
appropriate resolutions moving forward.
Any questions on that at all?
CHAIRMAN HALL: Good job.
MS. PATTERSON: If we could get a motion to approve.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Mr. Chairman, I'll move for
approval.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Second.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Moved and seconded. All in favor, say
aye.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN HALL: So moved. Thank you.
MR. JOHNSON: Thank you, Commissioners.
MS. PATTERSON: Before we adjourn, let's talk just briefly
about county government operations and then the Board -- your
pleasure on the Board meeting tomorrow.
So our plan, in coordination with the city's as well as the
constitutional officers -- and each of them, obviously, have the
authority to move up or move out these timelines -- is to close our
regular operations to the public for public programs and other public
events starting at noon tomorrow through Thursday. Most of us will
still be working. Obviously, we have disaster assignments, et cetera,
but this will allow staff time to finalize any personal preparations that
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they have left and report to their disaster assignments. It also will
hopefully minimize unneeded travel in this whether, because it's
continuing to rain.
Additionally, much of our workforce that lives to the north of
us, north of Collier County, and depending on the track of the storm,
may be experiencing significant impacts. So that is our
recommendation. I know that the -- Lee County is already closed as
of noon or will be closing -- oh, is closed as of noon today. City of
Naples may be closing a little earlier tomorrow, and City of Marco, I
think, is following suit. I've been touching base with the
constitutional officers to make sure that we're timed up as much as
possible.
And, again, this means that all of our folks doing emergency
work are going to continue to work. It just means that our
public-facing portions will be closed.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Do you need -- do you need
any direction from the Board, any motion to do that?
MS. PATTERSON: I'm going to look at the County Attorney
to see if he's --
MR. KLATZKOW: No, I don't think -- I don't think you need
any direction to do that.
MS. PATTERSON: Okay.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner LoCastro.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: I was just going to ask
Trinity Scott to come up here. She's been coordinating the effort for
sand and sandbags.
MS. SCOTT: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: And although we've gotten
out plenty of updates -- I mean, I was just talking to her in my office
an hour ago, and she just delivered a big truckload to a park in my
district, and maybe she can just give us the latest on sand, sandbags,
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what's available, what's not. I know there's more deliveries coming
later, but this is a good time to get it all on record.
MS. SCOTT: Sure. For the record, Trinity Scott, department
head, Transportation Management Services.
Commissioner, we've had some new information since I met
with you at 9 o'clock this morning. We were initially, as of the end
of the day, going to be at 380 tons distributed with approximately
40,000 bags total. Marshal and his team are doing amazing work
and got another 200 tons of sand donated to the county, so that will
be coming out later today in our three locations, Donna Fiala Eagle
Lakes Community Park, Sun-N-Fun, and the Big Corkscrew
Regional Park out in District 5.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: How are we on sandbags? I
know some areas they had sand but not bags.
MS. SCOTT: So sandbags -- I can tell you I went and picked
up sandbags myself yesterday. So Marshal makes me work, too, in
an emergency. So give him the hoorah on that one.
We are getting another round of sandbags in this afternoon, and
we'll get those out to the locations.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Okay.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And did I hear -- excuse me.
I didn't mean to jump. Did I hear there is sand being delivered to
Immokalee itself? Do we have a location in Immokalee?
MS. SCOTT: It's in District 5 at the Big Corkscrew Regional
Park. I believe that there was some sand that was taken out to
Immokalee over the weekend.
MS. PATTERSON: I believe there's sand -- is there sand going
back out to Immokalee as well? Yes, there is sand going to
Immokalee as well.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Do we know the location?
MS. SCOTT: I'll defer to Marshal.
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MR. MARSHAL MILLER: Marshal Miller, director of Road,
Bridge, and Stormwater Maintenance division.
Yes, we are getting another donation. I don't know the quantity
yet until it arrives. They weren't forthcoming with that. It will be at
the Sergeant Joe Jones Road Facility. We are going to put it out
through social media as soon as it arrives, the quantity and how many
bags we have on hand.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Very good. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN HALL: All right.
MS. PATTERSON: Very good. Just a reminder to folks out
there that have sandbags, there's been some questions about what
should I do with my sandbags once the event is over. We're asking
for folks to hold on to those sandbags. We've got another two
months to go in hurricane season. Important just to keep the
sandbags out of direct sunlight. But at the end of hurricane season,
we'll figure out a plan for those sandbags. But right now, let's keep
our fingers crossed and just hang on to them at your locations, if
that's possible.
With that, we can talk about, really quickly, the Board meeting
for tomorrow. Our advertised public hearing for land use has
graciously agreed to continue to the 22nd of October. That removes
the land use from tomorrow's agenda, which is a good thing. Folks
don't need to be sitting here when they can be making preparations at
home.
We are going to move the regular agenda items that we
have -- they're not time-sensitive -- to the next agenda as well. That
leaves the consent agenda and summary agenda.
So we have two different options. We can move all of that to
either next week, Tuesday, or to the 22nd, just making a larger
agenda on the 22nd, or we can come in and have a short meeting
tomorrow morning at 9 a.m., we can approve the consent and
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summary agendas, and then be on our way.
It is your pleasure. We can do either, either cancel the meeting
tomorrow or continue with it with just an abbreviated meeting.
CHAIRMAN HALL: What were the -- what were the regular
systems that we're going to move to next meeting?
MS. PATTERSON: We have an acquisition for Conservation
Collier. We have an update on the study for the sports complex
fields, getting authorization to move forward with that study, and
then at the Board's request, we were going to give a presentation on
the use of the tourist development tax pennies.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Just my thoughts are, instead of coming
in here just for consent and summary, with the land-use item gone,
the meeting will be short anyway. Even if we do our regular stuff,
we'll be out before noon, which will give us ample time to plan for.
Those are just my thoughts going in.
You're next.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: That's my echo. I was
actually saying there's really not much use coming in tomorrow. If
we can just -- I don't know -- under the declaration of emergency, can
we approve the consent agenda now, or do you -- do you want to
push it to the formal meeting on the 22nd?
MR. KLATZKOW: You can't do it now because the public got
notice that it's going to be tomorrow, and there are people who show
up for both the summary and the consent.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: So a continuance to the 22nd
is more prudent?
MR. KLATZKOW: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Why don't we continue
everything to another meeting.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: That's fine.
MR. KLATZKOW: All right.
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MS. PATTERSON: Very good. If we have concurrence of
the Board, we'll cancel tomorrow's meeting, and we'll put that notice
out, and we'll move all of those items to the 22nd.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Do you want a motion on
that?
MR. KLATZKOW: Yes.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I'll make that motion.
CHAIRMAN HALL: I'll second it. All in favor, say aye.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: All opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN HALL: No meeting tomorrow.
MS. PATTERSON: Okay. And finally, I'm going to send out
to you as a one-way communication just a little write-up on the
difference between storm surge and flooding from rainfall
stormwater. There continues to be confusion, which is completely
understandable. It looks like this -- we may be having both rainfall
and storm surge, but it's important for members of the public to
understand that there's not a stormwater system in the world that can
deal with the storm surges that are experienced when you get -- you
know, with five, six, 10, 12, feet of storm surge. A storm surge like
that will overtop any type of stormwater system, any type of
stormwater structure, and it's going to push its way through over the
top of and under everything.
The reason that modern constructions survive storm surge better
is a multitude of reasons. Mainly that they're at new elevations, so
they're constructed higher, but they also -- homes and other buildings
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include things like flood vents and breakaway walls that protect the
integrity of the structure while allowing the water to proceed on its
way. I have a writeup on this that I'll send to you in case you're
getting ongoing questions.
With the competition of stormwater trying to leave the
stormwater system from rainfall and the potential for surge may -- it
may prevent some -- it may present some challenges for water
disappearing as fast as we're used to, and so we just need to be
prepared for that. We just want to continue to educate the public
that while we have a lot of areas that need stormwater improvements,
as they have gotten older, even if we had done all of them through the
whole county, it would not change what we experience from this type
of storm surge flooding.
And with that, I'll send this out to you as a one-way, and we'll
continue to provide you information throughout the day. I'm going
to look at Mr. Mullins just to make sure that he doesn't want to put
anything on the record from his perspective before we're done.
MR. MULLINS: No. We would just encourage the
community to pay attention to our social media channels. The actual
emergency activation page of the county website will be activated
shortly. Once there is a shelter list determined, that will be posted
there. So please monitor reputable media sources, law enforcement,
the county, and the county social pages for further information
inspection.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Thank you, Mr. Mullins.
Commissioner LoCastro.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: At the risk of sounding
redundant, I just want to make sure that the thing that we're the most
clear of to the community -- because as soon as we leave this
meeting, this is where the confusion's going to be, and it's just
echoing again, that -- what the evacuation zones are. I guarantee
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you if we knocked on 10,000 doors right now, people don't -- there's
people that don't know that they're in A, B, or C. So that's key so
that it's not -- we're -- we did mandatory evacuation across the whole
county and what that meant.
I really like the idea that we're using the word "mandatory," but
people have -- as Commissioner Hall, I think, said and the Sheriff
said, we're not going to pull people out of their homes, but we're
basically saying if you're in Zone A and B and you have some sort of
emergent need, the chances of you getting help is limited to none.
And then Yvette Benarroch just reminded me here with a text,
we should remind people about pet care, you know, that if you're
going to evacuate from A and B, leaving all of your pets in your
house probably isn't a great idea, you know -- and some of that
sounds, you know, obvious, but maybe it's not as obvious, or you
can't drop all your pets off at DAS. Those kind of things.
But, you know, we'll have to do a really good job about our
district, because it overlaps quite a bit, and A and B is pretty much
the chunk of what we have. So anyway -- but I know that we'll do a
great job shooting that out.
And then, you know, to the commissioners, I just think we can’t
overpublicize the evacuation zone map because it's really not out
there a lot. It's only out there, you know, when there's an
emergency, and a lot of people -- and that map has changed a little bit
over time as well, so anyway.
MR. MULLINS: And, Commissioner, to that point, we started
broadcasting that about 36 hours ago, and it will be in regular rotation
on our social media pages to try to, you know, get market penetration
so people will see it.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Yeah, absolutely.
MR. MULLINS: And the media is picking it up as well.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Yeah.
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CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yeah, two points. Number
one, I believe when we're doing our shelter notifications, we actually
have a pet-friendly shelter where folks can go.
MS. PATTERSON: Yes, sir, we do. They're to bring the
supplies to care for their pet, but we do. And should anybody need
assistance with their pet or supplies for their pet or anything, please
reach out. We'll get information from them and provide whatever
assistance we can. We don't want people to not evacuate because of
their pets or to leave their pets behind.
MR. MULLINS: And expound upon that further, and not to be
a broken record, but if you go to social media pages, particularly our
Facebook page, there is a list of items that they should be considering
on bringing with them, whether they evacuate to a shelter or to
another location, to make sure that their furry friends are safe.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And that delineation of pet
friendly will be put amongst the shelters once they're announced and
when they're going to be open?
MS. PATTERSON: Yes, sir. And, again, if there's people
with needs, please reach out --
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Of course.
MS. PATTERSON: -- and let us know, and we'll do everything
we can to get somebody what they need to be able to get their pet to a
safe location.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: The needs are sooner than
later, you know. Folks need to be taking action as soon as possible.
On a less important note with regard to our business, I'm
currently the chair of the MPO, and I'm letting you know today we're
not going to have a meeting on Friday. We're going to
push -- everything that's on that Friday agenda for the Metropolitan
Planning Organization, we'll push it on the November meeting.
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So -- I spoke with our executive director this morning on the way in,
and I told her that I would announce it here, so...
CHAIRMAN HALL: I like it.
So I just want to remind the public, the actions that we took here
this afternoon is not by any means to cause panic or to cause chaos
but to bring an awareness of the seriousness of the matter and just to
bring awareness to the proper planning and the proper preparation for
this storm.
Be kind and be patient with us and use our processes. Like
Mr. Mullins said, go to our social media pages, stay informed that
way, use our Alert Collier, and use 311. And if you have special
needs, before things hit the fan, let us know.
And we appreciate you, and we're doing our best for you. So
thank you.
Meeting adjourned.
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There being no further business for the good of the County, the
meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 12:32 p.m.
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