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MINUTES OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
Naples, Florida
August 7, 2024
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, the Collier County Development Services Advisory
Committee, in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on
this date at 3 P.M. in REGULAR SESSION at the Collier County Growth Management
Community Department Building, Conference Room #609/610, 2800 Horseshoe Drive
North, Naples, Florida, with the following members present:
Chairman: William J. Varian
Vice Chairman: Blair Foley
James E. Boughton (excused)
Clay Brooker (excused)
Jeff Curl (excused)
David Dunnavant
John English
Marco Espinar
Norman Gentry (excused)
Mark McLean
Chris Mitchell
Robert Mulhere
Laura Spurgeon-DeJohn
Jeremy Sterk
Mario Valle
Hannah Roberts–AHAC non-voting
ALSO PRESENT:
Jaime Cook, Department Head, GMCD
Thomas Iandimarino, Director, Code Enforcement Division, GMCD
Christopher Mason, Community Planning & Resiliency Division, GMCD
Richard Long, Director, Building Review & Permitting Division, GMCD
Drew Cody, Supervisor – Project Management, PUD
Anthony Stolts, Supervisor – Project Management, PUD
Claudia Vargas, Project Manager I, PUD
Cormac Giblin, Housing Policy & Economic Development Division, GMCD
Lorraine Lantz, Manager – Transportation Planning, Transportation Management
Services
Captain Brian Horbal, North Collier Fire Review
Jason Badge, Supervisor – Project Management, GMCD
Michelle Ramkissoon, Supervisor – Permitting, GMCD
Mike Bosi, Director – Zoning, GMCD
Eric Johnson, Manager – Planning, GMCD
Richard Henderlong, Planner III, GMCD
Rey Torres Fuentes, Ops Support Specialist I, GMCD
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Any persons needing the verbatim record of the meeting may request a copy of the
audio recording from the Collier County Growth Management Community
Department.
1. Call to Order – Chairman
Chairman Mr. Varian called the meeting to order at 3 p.m.
A quorum of 12 was present in the boardroom
2. Approval of Agenda
The motion to approve the agenda passed unanimously, 11-0.
3. Approval of Minutes
a. DSAC Meeting – June 5, 2024
Mr. McLean approved, Mr Foley seconded it.
b. DSAC – LDR Meeting – May 21, 2024
Vice Chairman Mr. Varian moved it to next month.
Mr. Foley approved; Mr. Valle seconded it.
4. Public Speakers
(None)
5. Staff Announcements/Updates
a. Development Review Division – [Jaime Cook, Director]
• Finished the subcommittee on the right of way updates.
• Consultant is adjusting, a couple of things to work out, expect it around October
• Staff has been workin on Senate Bill 812
b. Code Enforcement Division – [Thomas Iandimarino, Director]
Mr. Iandimarino told the board:
• It is renewal season for contracting licensing
• Things are going to expire end of this month, end of October its going to be a warning
then come January were going to cancel it and you have to renew again
• As far as code side of house were doing schedule changes for staff, opening some
night ops and night shifts
• We will be working a little bit evening an more staff on weekends
Mr. Varian asked how long should we wait until we see that it's been approved?
Mr. Iandimarino stated we are about six to seven days behind right now
Mr. Varian noted he is almost three weeks, and it hasn’t moved
Mr. Iandimarino noted he will find out and see where you’re at. We are a little bit behind
someone will be getting a little bit of comp time and weekend work. A new employee will start
Monday to help in the office.
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c. Community Planning & Resiliency Division [Chris Mason, Director]
Mr. Mason wanted to update the committee with regards to our rain event / storm surge this
weekend. We have some teams go out to do some damage assessment.
Mr. Mason introduced the floodplain coordinator, William Lane, Collier County
Floodplain Coordinator
• I have experience with different committees in Collier County
• I m the chairperson for the Local Mitigation Strategy Working Group
• We look at all FEMA grants that wants to pass through and use it for different
mitigation
• I’m the staff liaison for the floodplain management committee, advisory committee to
the board of county commissioners
• I’m also in charge of damage assessment through growth management, our primary
duty to the community is to conduct damage assessment for commercial and
residential properties
• I have an extensive emergency management background working for Collier County
Management for about five years
• We went out to conduct a damage assessment around the Bayshore area and didn’t see
much, wind versus flood is a lot different in damage assessment world
• Monday, we deployed out to about eight areas which most are low-lying that
commonly see roadway flooding and potential structural flooding, but didn’t see any
of it
• We do a windshield assessment looking for affected, minor, major, or destroyed when
you have an EN or an ERMA event you’ll see major and destroyed
• Our primary goal is to help the county determine if we need to potentially escalate the
state or the feds for a presidential declaration whether that be an individual declaration
for residential properties, public assistance or our public infrastructure or what FEMA
is not in the business of which would be a small business administration declaration
IA, PA, or SBA
d. Building Review & Permitting Division [Richard Long, Director]
• We issued 86 TCO, 316 Cos, 3,340 certificate completions
• Right now, there’s 1,200 permits waiting to be routed back to the reviewers, reviewers
running there to four weeks after they get them
• Intake is they’re processing the submittals an average of four days which is still under the
new state statute of five days for verification on submittal
• We have 11vacancies, we have a total of 56 inspector positions so were running at 51
inspectors which on any given day averages out to be about 40 in the field
• We averaged 925 inspections per day
Mr. Varian asked is it the policy of the reviewers to go on Zillow and look at pictures of existing
single-family homes that are in review for remodels?
Mr. Long noted sometimes if that’s what it takes to determine what we need to do
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Mr. Varian asked what the written policy on inspectors is? Are they supposed to do it when they
finish a certain inspection, or can they do it all in the morning?
Mr. Long noted its as they go so the system, CityView Mobil app, there’s a little check box next
to all their inspections on their iPads. They see in the morning; they route they put in order all
their inspections how they physically going to go drive them. We also have the description of
what the permit is, so they know what they’re getting into. They use that to determine how long
they think it will take for the next inspection.
Mr. Varian noted there’s an inspector that does all the inspections at 7:30am and 11:30am which
I’ve failed. We got a click at 7:30am which gives 15 – 90 minutes and we got a crew over there
and never showed up.
Mr. Long said for those type of conversations you should have with the chief inspector
Mr. Varian said great he would be glad to.
e. Public Utilities Department [Drew Cody, Supervisor-Project Management]
Mr. Stolz introduced Claudia Marcus, new member of the team
• You will notice some of the review times, particularly on availability letters have
started to creep on our charts, that’s related to having Claudia into the team and
needing training and other staff changeovers.
• We are still expecting to call that utility subcommittee meeting probably in the next
month or so. The utility standards manuals updates that we’re looking forward here
with the attorney, hopefully we will get something on the calendar the next couple of
weeks or so.
f. Housing Policy & Economic Development [Cormac Giblin, Director]
• The planning commission heard an item last week, Alonto, a rental community which
recommended approval. It includes 31 very low-income rental units. Fiddlers' creek
expansion item, which proposed to include 225 affordable units, they denied that one. Bth
of those will be scheduled for the board to hear in the next month or so
• On the economic development side, the board decided a couple months ago to liquidate
our culinary accelerator operations we have in Immokalee.We put out an invitation to
negotiate for someone to come in and either take over the operation or just buy it.
Mr. Giblin asked if anyone had any questions
Ms. Robert’s noted Cormac, could you reiterate some of the points we talked about at AHAC on
the impact fees going on?
Mr. Giblin replied as you are aware this committee got a presentation of the impact fee
department about two or three months ago about the water and sewer increase, that has now gone
to the board twice. The first time, the board said they wanted to explore some phasing options and
address how it would affect housing affordability. The affordable housing advisory committee
had a meeting and voted to send a letter to the board chairman recommending the increase be
phased in to the maximum extent possible.
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g. Transportation Management Services (Lorraine Lantz, Manager)
Ms. Lantz introduced Katherine Eastley who is the new principal planner or planner level
three
• We have two transportation planning projects that just kicked off
• Last Friday, the Golden Gate City Master Plan kicked off, a water quality and flood
protection master plan that’s going to evaluate feasibility and improvements including
stormwater and potentially well and septic to public water and sanitation. So, we are
coordinating with PUD and with stormwater on this which is a year long process
• The second one is on Golden Gate Parkway corridor congestion study, it is similar to
the Motley and Pine Ridge studies that were done looking to relieve congestion and
enhance the corridor and intersections which is an 18-to-24-month project
h. Collier County Fire Review [Michael Cruz, Assistant Chief, Fire Marshall]
(No Report)
i. North Collier Fire Review [Bryan Horbal, Captain]
• The month of July we had 1,336 new construction inspections, that’s all-permanent
inspections and we are next day on our inspection or sometimes same day
• Our building reviews are averaging five days as of last month we had 647 reviews
in July
• For planning reviews, we had an average of three-day turnaround on planning
permits, and we did 51 planning permits in the month of July
Mr. Varian noted we are glad to hear you’re keeping up on inspections. That’s a sign of
support.
Mr. Horbal replied we are, we added a staff member to plan reviews, so we added another
fire reviewer and now were adding two new inspectors to fill the ranks in for retirees and
spots that never got filled before.
j. Operations & Regulatory Management Division – [Jason Badge, Supervisor]
• The last time we spoke we were waiting for the service pack that was going to fix the
search issues that we found while testing get delivered to us, it is in QAQC, they found
a few issues on it so they had to take it back and work on it. It will probably be before
the end of the month that we get that service pack for our testing purposes.
• They basically had to re-architect their entire software code for the way searches occur
in the software between portal, desktop, and our local website
• It's turned into a pretty significant code change which is why it’s taking long, once
they’re done it should come out more efficient than before, would be better
performance for everyone and their experience with the portal, Mobil site and desktop
Mr. Varian asked that doesn’t change the cost that we agreed to, right?
Mr. Badge replied that’s on their side, that’s their mess up. The way their contracts are
written, the time constraints don’t change the cost.
Mr. Varian asked if Michelle had anything to add on her end
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Ms. Ramkissoon added the following update
• We took in 4,290 permits for the month of July and 258 of those were for disaster-
related
• We are approximately 1,100 permits for sending back to review for intaking and
sending back to review
k. Zoning Division [Mike Bosi, Planning Zoning Director]
Mr. Bosi introduced Austin Grubb, planner 3
• We gained a planner 3 and down one and I was just notified my call plan manager is
retiring beginning in September, were in the process of searching for a leader of our comp
planning section of my zoning division
• The board of county commissioner want to meet year-round, but they don’t hear of land
use petitions in July and August and that creates this backlog for us every year, its
scheduled for the 10th and the 24th, 14 land use petitions with the board of county
commissioners
• We have some GMP but there’s roughly about 11 projects that are going forward
• October, I’ve got 1 and 2 in the first and second meeting
• Right now, I have 11 petitions between August 15th and September 20th planning
commission meeting
• The November hearing I have three land use petitions all for the same project which is
fiddler's creek anticipation for that will be four to five to six hours
• It’s the only land use item were going to be able to take other than summery items which
will push everything back to December, we will take the AUIR and others. Hopefully by
January well get it up to speed
• We are still getting a number of requests related to the GMP and the PUD requests for
affordable housing projects
• Since we set the policy to 30% the community has really responded in a way, there’s close
to 4,500 affordable units that have been approved over the three and a half years and it is
continuing to move into the future
6. New Business
A. LDCA – PL20230012905 – Golf Course Conversions – (Mike Bosi)
• We are now going to require a neighborhood information meeting before you submit an
application after you had it pre-op
• I’m doing is taking the DSAC comments from the scalpel approach, going to incorporate
those, and I’m going to bring them back to the planning commission for their evaluation
• There are some obvious distinctions that call out a golf course conversion unlike any other
land use that’s required within this county which was the issue that it was denied
• You don’t need a denial; you just need legislation that says at an applicant has to do more
than what’s required when they had originally purchased a property
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• I want the DSAC know we’re taking the provisions that had already reviewed, provided
the comments for, and going to incorporate your comments and take those planning
commission
Mr.Varian asked if he needed any votes from us on anything
Mr.Bosi replied no you guys had already made the recommendation for the modifications to the
previous version two or three months ago
Mr. English noted a lot of the stuff we went through LDR on that we tried to overlay any
additional layer of coverage that wouldn’t have been so developer friendly, correct me if I’m
wrong, the fear was that’s going to be subject to SB 250. So, we almost had to stay pretty much
hands off of it and then I saw what the commission did to it.
Mr. Bosi replied to the commission did not want to go as drastic as that they wanted something
more crafted, retain the requirements for the greenways, giving the board more flexibility. One of
the issues was the current regulations say the board can prove deviations if they are related to the
greenway if they were discussed during the SOM process. We are going to make it abundantly
clear the board can make deviations, but they have to be justified and related to a public purpose
and offset for some of the impacts related to the purpose development
Mr. Mulhere noted that he had emailed Eric and then Mike, but didn’t get a chance to touch base,
because my question was, hows this going forward?
Mr. Bosi replied when we go to the planning commission that recommendation and all the
modifications that were proposed will be in that packet that goes to the CCPC
B. LDCA – PL20240008157 –
Updated Approval of Residential Building Permits - (Richard Henderlong)
• It is introducing a newly created statutory required section, 177.073 called the expedited
approval for residential building permits before final plot is recorded. There is approval by
the governor on May 29, 2024
• The LDC amendment and its companion administrator code amendment is on a fast track
which has to meet a state mandated deadline, requires no later than October 1st for the
county to update the building permit process so an applicant may request up to 50%, and
then up to 75% or more by December 31, 2027
• The subcommittee recommended approval of the changes, then its to be followed up by
the planning commission on August 15 and it then goes directly to the board September
27th
• It renames the optional preliminary subdivision plot to a conceptual plot with deviation
which will allow deviations from design standards that aren’t elsewhere allowed within
the LDC
• It renames LDC section 100204 to collectively be requirements for subdivision plots
rather than just preliminary and final plots
• The statue refers to both preliminary and final plot, it is going to serve as your preliminary
plot which is now being renamed as conceptual plot with deviations
• Staff received additional changes that are add onset o the recommendation of the
subcommittee
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• On the LDC section and the abbreviation section to remove the abbreviation for
preliminary subdivision plot because it's been renamed
• Were deleting some preliminary words identified in your memorandum.
• We’ve are seeking a recommendation or approval of these aforementioned add-ons and
technical changes with the companion administrator code as presented
Mr. Mulhere noted what does this phrase mean, there is one quotation at the end but not
anywhere else, “after board approval of the plat, I received a fully executed construction and
maintenance agreement and performance security after county attorneys' approval” what is that
phrase attached to? What does that mean?
Mr. McLean replied there’s a quotation at the beginning, the whole thing is dropped in and there
a quotation
Mr. Mulhere replied okay, I’m okay
Ms. Cook noted for clarification you are not required to give us the construction and maintenance
agreement and the bond until you actually go to plat reporting, the state statue now requires if you
want to follow this 177073 and get building permits that you give it to me before your reports
Mr. Mulhere replied got it that answers my question
Mr. Valle asked what the time frame is when you go to construct those single-family homes
Ms. Cook replied the state statue language does n to allow for a TCO or a CO until the plat is
reported so the plat would still have to be reported to get those, you’d be able to get the permits
and start building and gives you a window of when you need to start getting your reporting done
Mr. English noted it does allow us a master plan which we’ve never been allowed a master plan
before in collier county so you can’t master plan it. While the plat is being reported you can get a
lot of work done but you cannot occupy those homes until all paperwork is caught up
Mr. McLean noted you’ve got to build a house, you’ve got to have fire protection water. You’ve
got to have a preliminary acceptance before you get a CO
Ms. Cook noted I’m not sure how many of the developers and the civil engineers have these
conversations, I don’t see it happening a lot in collier county
Mr. Mulhere approved; Mr. McLean seconded it.
C. LDCA – PL20240005299 – Major Transportation Hub - (Eric Johnson)
Mr. Johnson introduced Angela Galliano who is the planner two position, newest member of
our LDC team
• This LDC amendment seeks to update LDC section 108-02, that’s to creat two new
definitions in our land development code
• In 2023 the senate bill 102 was adopted into the Florida statutes, known as the Live Local
Act
• It was the states way of addressing our affordable housing problem
• Director Boese approached the board of county commissioners on April 9th, it was asked
to review and approve staffs administrative applications process for how the LLA has
implications with the county code and county business
• The board determined major transit stop would have been the existing CAT transfer
station located, one at the government center transfer station 335 east tamiami trail, two
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8300 radio road and the third at the Florida department of health 419 North 1st street in
immokalee
• I was going to take it to the LDC subcommittee, but the Florida statute changed before we
met and that was senate bill 328 on May 16th
• It was changed to remove the definition for major transit stop instead it came up with
major transportation hub
• The subcommittee reviewed it on May 21st and recommended that the staff change the
requested definition from major transit stop to transit stop and major transportation hub
• Provide a definition for transit stop that includes a reference to publicly funded
transportation agency as opposed to naming CAT specifically
• We feel like we need these definitions n the code to address those provisions that are in
the Florida statutes now
Mr. Mulhere noted the only potential issue is that at some point in the future, some location, at
some location, the county, or perhaps even some federal or state entity, creates what otherwise
would now be a new transportation hub. We have to be open to adding if that opportunity arises.
Other than that, I would make a motion to approve it.
Mr. McLean noted these are just definitions that staff needed, so were fine with this definition.
Eric was asking us just to make these two definitions, we’ve asked Eric and his team to build a
definition to help adorable housing with bus stops. The other thing we tried to eliminate with this,
with the local publicly funded is a developer takes a space out on immokalee roar and builds a bus
stop and there’s not even a CAT line running there.
Mr. Mulhere approved, and Mr. McLean seconded it.
Ms. Spurgeon- DeJohn asked I thought this definition declared those three locations are the
locations per Florida statute that are eligible for the consideration of reduced parking?
Mr. Johnson replied these are the definitions that the board had determined for major transit stop
that were transferring to major transportation hub.
Mr. Bosi noted just to clarify the component that’s the major transportation hub that per statute
then makes you eligible for an automatic 20% reduction. If you’re near a transit stop, we have to
consider that part of the reduction so that’s the distinction between the two definitions
Mr. Mitchell noted there’s been plenty of engineers here that have done apartments in the last
five, seven years, they do parking studies, and it comes out to like 2.1 or 2.2 depending on
bedroom breakdown. We are slightly over parked on the LDC apartments and multi family.
Mr. Mulhere noted that almost everyone of these cases there is an application put in for an APR,
which is a reduction parking, up until now, as long as you prepare that properly, you receive that
reduction. I don’t think anybody wants to see more parking that is necessary. I don’t know if it
has to be attached to some other locational characteristic that has to do with transit or to the 1952
parking requirements for apartments in Collier County.
Mr. Varian noted we have a motion, and everyone was in favor.
Mr. Bosi noted we still need to work on something that’s coming in the future. We want to
help, if affordable housing has some sort of wording that they would like to see in a definition
here to take that administrative portion out to where, just like if you were next to a major
transportation, you get the automatic 20 what else can we be next to to get an automatic
parking?
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Mr. Varian noted that the sites that are out there right now, that fit three people and a place
for a handy cap that’s all there is under the aluminum
Mr. Johnson mentioned we are working through this it came up that we need to try to get
something more automatic that helps the affordable housing market.
Mr. Mulhere noted it is a good point and we should talk to the CAT folks
Mr. Varian noted as you’re looking at a definition just think of some of those sites, the
existing sites that are all over collier county. How many people can you put under that little
thing?
Mr. Johnson noted were trying to see what’s the load the proximity, if I build a new
affordable housing unit on a CAT path and I put a bus stop there do I get automatic reduction?
This would say no.
Mr. Bosi added that if were implementing the LBC amendments for the growth management
plans that are related to housing, we had proposed the fifth of the transit-oriented
development. If you put a project where you build a bus stop on a transit route, you’re eligible
for a base density of 13 units an acre, not income restricted. Then you can get up to 25 units
an acre if those are dedicated to affordable housing, if 50% of those units are going to be
within a quarter mile of that bus stop.
Mr. McLean asked what’s the requirement for CAT to utilize that stop? Like is there spacing?
Mr. Bosi replied to your engineer would talk with CAT where the appropriate location of that
stop is
Mr. McLean noted if you look at location near immokalee road near intersection of oaks
their stop is in the turn lane, do they want to put another one at the medical center that’s a
quarter mile down the road?
Mr. Bosi replied with every time you add a bus stop, there’s a time situation
Mr. Mulhere noted there are some locations in collier county that there could be high
utilization of the public transit system, such as Arthrex, North Collier which are employment
centers.
Ms.Lantz noted Mr. Mulhere was talking about a super stop, where a couple of on-time
locations, at specific locations at time periods, two or more buses come in, and someone could
transfer from one but to another. At creekside it is the link, which is Lee in Collier ran by
Leetran, it comes into Collier County at the same time. I believe two collier county or collier
air transit buses come in and so someone could get off board and continue down their route on
different services. To put a new stop on a transit route it would have to be coordinated with
CAT to make sure there’s time on the system for a bus to stop
Mr. Varian asked is there anything on the transportation side that limits location of it?
Ms. Lantz replied we try to have them so they can pull of in a safe boarding stop location and
it is looked at when we do review.
Mr. Mulhere added all of the new villages, new towns and several more to come along,
everyone of them has had a choice of putting a parking ride or transit stop. The transit stop has
always been locating in a way where the bus can pull off of the main road or actually pull into
the commercial entity of the development.
Mr. Johnson noted the way the major transportation hub definition is worded, it identifies
those three places. Hopefully the board would agree with us that this constitutes the three that
they contemplated for major transit stop, since they’re not aware of major transportation hub.
If something comes up in the future it would require necessitate another code change.
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7. Old Business
(None)
8. Committee Member Comments
(None)
9. Adjourn
The meeting was adjourned by the order of the chairman at 4:11pm.
COLLIER COUNTY
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE
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William Varian, Chairman
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