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MINUTES OF MEETING
FLOW WAY
COMM`..'N'ITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT
The Regular Meeting of the Board of Directors of the Flow Way Community Development District was
held on Th rsday,January 21, 2020 at 1:00 P.M. in the conference room of the offices of Woods,
Weidenmer, Michetti, & Rudnick, 9045 Strada Steil Court,4th floor, Naples, Florida 34109.
Present and coirs'dituting a quorum:
Zack Stamp Chairperson
Ron Miller Vice Chairperson
Tom Kleck Assistant Secretary
Martinn Winters Assistant Secretary
Andrew Miller
Also present were:
James P. Wa-d District Manager
Greg Woods District Counsel
Jessica Tolin District Counsel
Audience:
David Bogus;"
Joanne Holt
Karl Schneider
Kristin Howlett
Ed Staley
Bruce Bernard
M chael Connor
Jonathan Oriole
All resident's names were not included with the minutes. If a resident did not identify
themselves or the audio file did not pick up the name, the name was not recorded in these
minutes.
PORTIONS OF THIS MEETING WERE TRANSCRIBED VERBATIM. ALL VERBATIM PORTIONS WERE
TRANSCRIBED IN ITALICS.
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINT:SS Call to Order/Roll Call
Chairperson Zack Stamp called the meeting to order at approximately 1:00 p.m. Roll call was conducted
and all Members of the Board were present constituting a quorum. He stated there would be a period
of public comment at the end of the meeting for non-agenda items.
SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS Public Comments for NON-Agenda items
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Individuais are permitted to speak on items on the Agenda during that item and will be announced by
the Chairperson;comments limited to three minutes
Chairperson Stamp indicated there wouid be a time for public comments regarding non-agenda items at
the end of the meeting; however, he would be happy to recognize speakers for brief comments during
regular Agenda Items.
THIRD ORDER OF BUSINESS Consideration of Minutes
December 17, 2020 Regular Meeting Minutes
Chairperson Stamp asked if there were any additions or corrections to the Minutes; hearing none, he
called for a motion to anorove the December 17, 2020 Regular Meeting Minutes as presented.
On MO T ON made by Mr. Tom Kleck, seconded by Mr. Martinn
1 Winters, and with all in favor,the December 17,2020 Regular Meeting
Minutes were approved.
FOURTH CRDER OF BUSINESS Authorization to Advertise
Authorization to Advertise for District Engineer in accordance with the Consultants Competitive
Negotiaticns Act(Cl-apter 287 Florida Statutes)
a) Letter of resignation of Waldrop Engineering as District Engineer for the Flow Way Community
Development District,dated December 21, 2020 and effective March 21,2021
Chairperson Stamp askec District Manager Jim Ward to review this Item.
Mr.Jim Ward: Waldrop Engineering who was the District Engineer has resigned as the District Engineer
for this particular District. The effective date of the resignation is March 21, 2021. That is based the
firms contract with the District. The way which the Statute works is Chapter 287 of the Florida Statutes
indicates a District must advertise publicly for retention of a new District Engineer. You can hire interim
people on a temporary basis. In order to have a permanent engineer, we need to go through the CCNA
process. This means we need to advertise in the newspaper in Collier County and any engineer may
submit their proposals to us. The way in which this statute works these are non-price-based proposals.
They are only qualification-based proposals. Based on those qualifications, if you receive at least three
of them you have to rank them, #1, #2, and #3. If you receive more you do not need to rank the
additional ones, if you receive less you will rank however many you receive. Once you rank those three
firms then I will have to go back and negotiate a contract with them. They will identify their fee
structure. The fee structure will simply be what their hourly rates are for their charges and then I bring
the contract back to you for approval at a Board Meeting. This process takes 3 months generally
speaking. This particular item on the Agenda is simply for authorization to go through the process of
advertising for a new District Engineer.
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Mr. Rom Miller: Is this hourly or a set fee for ssrvices?
Mr. Ward: They are generally hourly rate contracts, and then we authorize them to do specific tasks. If
it's me authorizing, son-:'-imes when it's a 1-hour job, I don't ask for a proposal. If it's something more
than that l will ask for c roecific scope. and fee to do that and sometimes I will bring it back to the Board
depending upon how mach it is, or I will go ahead and authorize the work as appropriate. They don't
have carte blanche to go out and do c ything.
Mr. Stamp asked if there were any further questions; hearing none, he called for a motion.
On MOTION made by Mr. Tom Kleck, seconded by Mr. Martinn
Winters, and with all in favor, the District Manager was authorized to
adverti'z for a District Engineer i-^ accordance with the Consultants
Competitive Negotiations Act
FIFTH ORDER OF BUSIN ISS Consideration of Resolution 2021-2
Consideration of Resc lion 2021-2, a Resolution of the Board of Supervisors of the Flow Way
Community Developm€, t District Declaring Special Assessments; Indicating the Location, Nature and
estimated cost of those Improvements which cost is to be defrayed in whole or in part by the Special
Assessments; Providing the portion of the estimated cost of the improvements to be defrayed in
whole or in part by the Special Assessments; Providing the manner in which such Special Assessments
shall be made; Providing when such Special Assessments shall be made; Designating lands upon which
the Special Assessments shall be levied; Providing for an assessment plat; Adopting a preliminary
assessment roll; Providing for a Public Hearing :y consider the advisability and propriety of said
Assessments and the related improvements; Providing for Notice of said Public Hearing; Providing for
publication of this Resolution
Chairperson Stamp: Next item is the consideration of the Resolution regarding the Hatcher property. Is
there a motion on that?
Mr. Drew •;iFller made a lotion to approve Resolution 2021-2. There was no second.
Chairperson Stamp: Is t'iere a second? Hearing nor?, we'll move on.
SIXTH ORDER OF BUSINESS Consideration of Resolution 2021-3
Consideration of Resoltion 2021-3, a Resolution of the Board of Supervisors of the Flow Way
Community Development District setting a Public Hearing to be held on March 18, 2021 at 1:00 P.M.
and held at a Location to be determined during this meeting, for the purpose of hearing public
comment on Imposing Special Assessments on certain property within the District generally described
as the Flow Way Community Development District in accordance with Chapters 170, 190 and 197,
Florida Statutes
Chairperson Stamp: Item 6 becomes moot. We will move on.
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SEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS Consideration of Resolution 2021-4
Consideran of Reso ton 2021-A, a Resolution of the Board of Supervisors of the Flow Way
Community Developme c District designating new location for the remaining Regular Meetings of the
Board of Supervisors of :ne District for Fiscal Year 2021
Mr. Ward: The District adopted a Resolution which sets our board meeting dates, times, and location.
At that time, they were at the prior attorney's law offices. I have redone this Resolution to set the
balance of the meetings for 2021, same dates, same times, but at the location here of Woods,
Weidenmiller, Michetti, & Rudnick, 9045 Strada Steil Court, 4th floor, Naples, Florida 34109. This simply
allows me to advertise the balance of the meetings at this one location rather than having to post a
separate meeting notice for each neeting. it doesn't preclude you from changing dates, times, or
locations of meetings in the future. it merely allows us to have a regular board meeting date, time, and
location.
Chairperson Stamp aske' if there were any questiors; hearing none, he called fora motion.
On MOTION made by Mr. Ron Miller, seconded by Mr.Tom Kleck, and
with all n favor, Resolution 2021-4 was adopted, and the Chair was
authori ed to sign.
EIGHTH ORDER OF BUSINESS Staff Reports
Staff Reports
I. District Attorney—Woods,Weidenmiller, Michetti,&Rudnick
a.Code of Ethics Complaint process
Mr. Drew Miller: Last month I asked Mr. Woods to review,just to make sure that the CDD wasn't
opening itself up for any kind of litigation risk on not passing the Resolution 2021-2, and 2021-3
Hater Resolutic-s.
Mr. Greg Woods: No, there is no exposure for not moving forward on those Resolutions.
Mr. Ron Miller. I understand you maybe had a touch of COVID? How are you doing?
Mr. Woods: I am in day 5 and day 5 is much better than days 1 and 2, but day 5 still isn't a picnic.
I'm doing pretty good. Thank you, Ron.
Mr. on Miller: I wish you a speedy recovery.
Chai-person Stamp: You want to talk about the code of eth'cs complaint? Does anyone have any
questions on that,
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Mr. Ron Miller: I think last month we left this open for further discussion. I've been back and that
Section 112.1341 whatever, talking about Board Members being required to abstain from voting
on financial matte: that would benefit their employer. i think that statute has been violated, and
i think it has bee, violated numerous times. i would like to visit on what I think was the most
egregious violatic It was where the three Taylor Morrison Board Members presented motions
and passed then- to allow the Chairman to work with South Florida which was definitely an
adverse position Ji,ancially for the CDD per statute with respect to Taylor Morrison it was to
retroactively relic.e Taylor Morrison of mitigation and to totally eliminate the funding of the
preserves. Clear', ft benefitted Taylor Morrison, and clearly it was adverse to the CDD. I think
there has been a olation and my job kind of got at that time and it was brought up and clearly
mentioned at the time about fiduciary responsibilities and even the site of the Florida Code of
Ethics. That did not slow down the three Taylor Morrison Board Members. They made the motion
and passed it, and so I think the Board needs to pursue the code of ethics violation. It might be
unfair to the other Board Members to make a motion at this point because this might be pressure
on your minds. Maybe you read the Statute, maybe you haven't. maybe you've thought about the
South Florida situation, maybe you haven't. I want to at this point make a motion that we ask the
CDD to file that Code of Ethics ✓iolation at this point. i would ask the Board Members to think
about that between now and the February meeting where we can further discuss it and perhaps
add that motion to do so.
Mr. Tom Kleck: is there any recommendations from Counsel as to how the CDD should approach
this?
Mr. Woods: Because of the nature of our litigation against Taylor Morrison, I think there are a lot
of reasons, in traditional litigation, and even for the CDD, i would recommend against filing the
Ethics violation. if turns — Taylor Morrison will use it in the litigation against us and will say
basically the CDD Board is now trying to be vindictive and taking personal shots back at them. i
think it undermines our very good position in the litigation. That's the primary reason. The
second, an ethics violation, it's arguable whether or not there was a technical violation or not. I
understand your position and your reading of it, and you could get there, but it is not as clear cut
as I think you thin'-it is. It would be an opportunity, if an individual not on the Board, if a resident
of the community wanted to file an ethics violation, I think that would be fine, but I would try and
dissuade the Board from engaging in that activity itself.
Chairperson Stamp: i understand the frustration, with the Taylor Morrison people on the Board.
The difference is, 'ndecipherable)As he said, if a private citizen wants to bring this, I wouldn't tell
them not to. They-ould certainly do that on their own dime. And I also don't know that the CDD is
authorized to bring this. I don't think they are authorized to own the preserve either, but that's
another question. You know that what the duties of the CDDs are, they're there to file ethics
complaints, but I'm not sure about that. That's my reading of it. Maybe it falls into some of our
general powers to do that. I would also say we might want to revisit this down the road if what I
think will happen happens, and that is during discovery we are going to find out that these earlier
Taylor Morrison Meetings were totally scripted and directed outside of all the Sunshine Laws. If
you look at their minutes, there is no debating, there is no discussion, there was no dissent, there
was no "what's in the best interest of the resident?" It was all fairly scripted. I think that may
come out and that may be something more substantial, more easily proven, than what you're
talking about. So, we will leave it open as an item at this point.
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Mr. Martinn Wint',rs: l have a copy of the minutes from the September 18, 2018 Board Meeting
wherein the Boara voted to accept the external preserves, and it looks like maybe some of the
Taylor Morrison representatives on the Board were omitted from the litigation, and / was
wondering whether or not the litigation is going to be modified to make sure we get all the Taylor
Mcrrson Board N F_'nbers.
Chairperson Stamp: There was a mistake there. There will be an amendment. Two of the named
merbers will be dropped, two will be added. There might be a couple of other amendments as
well. Potentially the homeowner's association, because it's my assumption and others that in a
few months the homeowner's association will probably be a co-plaintiff with us. But they were
brought in in an abundance cf caution, so any rights they had, if they wanted to preserve them,
they were at the :able. So, yea,';', at the end of this we will talk about the lawsuit, and I've been
working with counsel on getting that going.
II. District Engineer
No District Engineer report.
III. Distric', Manager—.. Ward&Associates, LLC
a) Financial Stateme;?ts ending December 31,2020(Unaudited)
Mr. Ward: I have nothing for you.
NINTH OFDER OF BUSK :SS Agreement with MHOA and District
Agreemer:with Mt `: Jomeowner's Association and District
Chairperson Stamp: Wr. had hoped have a joint call between the HOA and the HOA Council and the
CDD Council, but unfor:••'ately that was not able to be arranged. It will be held next week to work this
out, but it is my feeling, id I think mcst in here feel we ought to cancel this and move on, but Jim do you
want to give us your thc. ghts?
Mr. Ward: As you know, there is an agreement that has been in place with the Master Homeowner's
Association since 2013 , 2014 and it really covers the maintenance of the District's water management
system which are lakes or:d littoral shelf plantings, the use of irrigation line that supplies irrigation water
to the community and entranceway landscaping. Generally speaking, in transition CDDs, many of them
choose to move those agreements back into the CDD for operation and maintenance for efficiency
purposes, and for the District's overall ability to actually manage that type of an asset in a fashion
different than the way I see most homeowner's associations do that. Last year, this was in your budget.
I recommended to you that it be done. I haven't changed that recommendation to you at all on a going
forward basis, and I think it's something you should consider, especially now that I know you are going to
begin the transition to a resident controlled HOA board which I know will put 10,000 things on their plate
to deal with.
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Mr. Drew Miller: You have property and landscaping. I pointed out the map last month. I suggest with
you work with the HOA on a new agreement. Not to say the HOA would stop maintaining that area, but
if you just wholesale get rid of this w it:'wut having an agreement on that area, to me why don't we vote
one of you to coordinate with the HC' and at least put together something that makes sense. There are
still property and assets :hat are in the CDD that probably make sense to stay in the HOA, like the front
entrance landscaping. :at's probab;- r-he easiest thing, a simple amendment to the agreement rather
than just a wholesale ge -id of it. it's up to you guys. I'm just throwing that out there to help.
Mr. Ron Miller: I think the best way is to terminate that agreement, and we can do that on 30 days'
notice, it's pretty easy for us to do. in my mind the question is more about timing. It's gone on this long
and maybe think about 3 timing coterminous with the turnover on the HOA side. I like Drew Miller's
thoughts about the landscaping. If that's the only landscaping the CDD is involved in and the HOA has
everything else under the sun, we might want to continue. The HOA would have to go along with, but
we need to think about saving that with the HOA.
Mr. Drew Miller: I have `from last month's—things like 142, the landscape exhibit, it shows you what
the CDD's land deeded ;.rat requires landscaping, it might help you to use that exhibit in the agreement
and work something out where at the very least, they would take that. That would be my suggestion.
Mr. Ward: There are three elements of the existing agreement. There is landscaping out on where the
arterial road is, the irrigation system, and the drainage system. Drew has a good point with respect to
the landscaping, and irrigation. i am unfamiliar with those two pieces of that puzzle. The water
management system actually is, while the biggest part of the transaction, the easiest part to transition.
Working out another agreement with them I think would not be that difficult to do, and clearly maybe
they would like to keep that. Maybe it's better for you all to turn the landscaping and the irrigation over
to the HOA and let the District handle the drainage system. In any event, waiting till that transition point
is probably not something I would do. I would suggest we start that now, but unless we have some idea
of where we want to gc with that, I think there is nothing to do. i would suggest we start that and at
least have some direction. We can at least start that transition with one of those assets, at least with
the drainage system, a maybe deal with the other two parts on a going forward basis without me
having to terminate the entire agreement. I think l can take a look at that and pull-out pieces of it if
necessary.
Chairperson Stamp: We have to give them 30 days. We can give 60 days, which would give us time to
work things out.
Mr. Ward: Yeah, or alternatively if you just want to give me direction to work out a solution to this
problem, whether it's ti:e entire agreement or parts of it, we could move forward with something
without having to do a termination at this point.
Mr. Winters: There has been a new story on Link News three times that Esplanade is laying off its
employees, and while that may be a mandatory 60-day notice to the employees, it is having an
unsettling effect on the employees and staff that maintain the HOA and my concern is that people are
going to be paying more attention looking for jobs, than they are for maintaining things. I think as soon
as we get control of the assets that the CDD is ultimately responsible for, the better. My second concern
though is any more of Taylor Morrison's responsibilities than we already have, to the extent that there is
deferred movements on some of the ponds and waterways, grasses growing where they shouldn't be,
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that neec to be removed. Plantings that haven't been done. I want to make sure the CDD does not
inherit any of Taylor Morrison's responsibilities. They've deferred enough to the residents as it is.
Mr. Kleck: I wanted to go along with what Mr. Winters'said and get some clarification for, not only the
Board, but for the homeowners about the status of the lakes and the ponds. I'm getting several emails
and nasty calls about W;y our ponds and lakes are turning into swamps. My point is, at this point I don't
think the CDD is responsible for it, and doesn't the County have to approve it before you guys can turn
that over Drew?
Mr. Drew Miller: I don't know about vvhat the turnover process is. There is definitely a permit out and
some bonds out. The fixtures I've seen are all looking good as far as I can tell with my laymen eyes. I
don't think there is—but my understanding is we just hired somebody last time to go do the review of it,
so I think cll of that is bey 7g processed.
Mr. Kleck: So, who is responsible for it right now? Taylor Morrison?
Mr. Drew Miller: I don't know that answer. There is some responsibility for both.
Chairperson Stamp: Sc, would the solution here be to authorize Jim to move forward starting to
negotiate the ultimate cancellation of the contract end let us cancel it at the next meeting? Does that
get you to where you need to be from a time standpoint, and we can—
Mr. Ward: If we cancer it or not is — if you want to start it, we need to start the process. it doesn't go
anywhere without attic
Mr. Ron Miller: Jim, it your thought process about moving forward, would we think we would be
knocking with the HOA about that one'get their viewpoint before we start taking lateral action?
Mr. Ward: I think talking to the homeowner's association is a good idea, whether the existing or
whoever the new board members will be, it wouldn't hurt to have a talk and let's see what we can do
about moving the process forward. That's always a good thing.
Mr. Winters: is this sc :-ething we could do Jim? Could we get the authorization to do it? Or is it
something one of us is better positioned to do?
Mr. Ward: It's easy for, e to do it, but if you want to do it you can try to do it. I'll be glad to do it, but I'll
be glad to work with you on it.
Mr. Winters: You are probably better qualified to do this than I am, but I'm happy to ride shotgun with
you and try to act as a liaison or go between with the HOA.
Chairperson Stamp: So, the consensus here is you are going to terminate it at some point, but we are not
agreeing on it being certain.
Mr. Martinn Winters made a motion to give the District Manager authority to move forward to carve
out sections of the maintenance agreement such as the appropriations CDD and lead with the HOA
agreement towards something more appropriate with the HOA, and Mr. Ron Miller seconded the
motion.
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Mr. Tom Kieck: Will thy= CDD Board and the HOA Board have the ability to meet together and hold a
meeting according to the Sunshine Lc;us; etc.?
Mr. Ward: They are aiv'nys welcome to attend your meetings and provide input. A joint meeting would
be them attending a CDD meeting.
On !IC-TON made by Mr. Martian Winters, seconded by Mr. Ron
Mill<rr, and with four in favor and one opposed, District Manager Jim
War: w,-s given authority to move forward to carve out sections of the
maintenance agreement such as are appropriate to the CDD and leave
with the 'fOA what deems to be more appropriate for the HOA.
TENTH ORDER OF BUSIN3SS Discussion of Preserve Funding
Discussion of Future Fuming of Preserve Mitigation and Maintenance
Chairperson Stamp: What I am thinking here is having the Board pass a nonbinding resolution saying
that basically we are through funding the preserves coming from the Fiscal Year we are in and give Jim
some direction on putting together the budget and also lets us go to the Corp of Engineers and say we
don't intend to fund this anymore. We don't think we should. How are we going to work this out? This
is not going to be a binding resolution. If I can go to them and say the board agreed 3 to 2 or whatever
but that is certainly our -tent. We can go a different direction, but that's my thought.
Mr. Ron Miller: So, you are looking for a nonbinding resolution to open a discussion with the Corp.
Chairperson Stamp: Yes. i don't want to just walk in and say this is what I think as we are just going to
do it. I want to be able to go in and say the Board has told me this is what they want.
Mr. Drew Miller: Can w. ask Greg to ch,me in on whether making that motion opens us up for litigation
from bond holders because we have an obligation to maintain the assets the CDD owns? I don't know
how that ties into what the bond holder obligations are. Have we looked at that? If we are making a
move that says hey, we are definitely not going to pay, are we making any kind of statement that might
put us in jeopardy?
Chairperson Stamp: We are not talking about not funding the operations and maintenance or paying off
the capital debt. This is only the preserves. Greg, do you have an opinion? Jessica?
Mr. Woods: We have not spoken with the bond holder's counsel as to any specifics. Our understanding
is we would probably not be violating the terms, but we are trying to confirm that with the bond holder
counsel, so I would like us to take a look at that before we express an opinion one way or another.
Chairperson Stamp: Would it be your advice to hold off on this move of the Board for a resolution or
otherwise deal with it? We can always come back and reverse it.
Mr. Woods:(Indecipherable.)
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Mr. Ron Miller: Greg, there are different reasons to be looking at the bond indentures, the 2014 bond
indenture for the purposs of looking forward to refinancing it which we cannot do until 2014. For that
reason, totally different from what we are talking about here, I just recently went through one of those,
and I recall reading the indenture that was specific to the boundaries of the CDD and the internal
preserves. I didn't se! anything that bond indenture with respect to the external preserves
whatsoever. That bond holder didn't even know they existed; it wasn't a part of it. You might want to
take a look.. but i don't t', nk that sh,o:, d be an issue because it is not even a part of the indenture.
Mr. Woods: Let us confi rn. That's a good point Ron. Let us confirm that and if that is in fact the case,
you are right.
Mr.Zack Stamp: We would prefer if you could hold off until the next meeting on this issue.
Mr. Ward asked if Mr. Ron Miller and Mr. Kleck were willing to withdraw the motion and second; the
motion and second were withdrawn.
ELEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS Staff Items
I. District Attorney'
a. Ethics Complaint
Chai,person Stamp indicated this Item had already been discussed.
b. Petition for Admi•istrative Hearing SFWMD Permit Modification transferring operations to the
Flow Way CDD.
Chairperson Stami, asked if there were any updates regarding this Item?
Ms.Jessica Tolin: n the petition that was filed, there was the order entered dismissing it, so what
you could do to pursue it further, there is a 30-day deadline to appeal. We are still within that 30
days. That woul: be somethi,ig that you all could consider doing. I think it would be our
suggestion just to ;ursue the lawsuit at this paint, because the South Florida Water Management
Dist•:ct's opinion ,,as essential'; that it is cut of their jurisdiction and they want the courts to
decide, it probab'y makes sense : pursue the issue with the courts and let them come down to a
position as opposed to putting it on appeal and potentially having an appellate decision happen
first that may or may not be favorable for the CDD.
Mr. Woods: We are kind of late to the game in the South Florida Water Management District
action. Our stroncer position is with the Army Corp of Engineers and with the litigation itself. i
would rather focus our efforts on the things i think are positive for us as opposed to trying to
appeal the South Florida Water Management District where we are more likely to lose and diffuse
the momentum we may gain in the other venues.
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Char-person Stam?: Would it be fair to say that South Florida didn't say necessarily that we were
wrong, they said ;ou should have been bringing these actions years ago? But because Taylor
Morrison controlled the Board--
Mr. Woods: That : a fair statement.
Mr. Drew Miller: is it? I read it totally different. Approximately five years prior to the
commencement c construction on September 13, 2007, the ERP was modified to update the long-
term operating entity to the Flow Way Community Development District, a newly created CDD
established by Collier County Ordinance 2002-09. Listen, it would not have come off the ground
without modificati_ins to these permits. It's pretty clear. I just want to make sure anybody
listening in the audience actually recognizes that, in my opinion, it is not at all what this letter says.
This letter clearly__::ys that SFWMD sees the Flow Way CDD as the long-term operating entity.
Chairperson Stamc: And if we didn't, we should have objected several years ago. We blew the
timing.
Mr. Drew Miller: i don't see where that says that anywhere.
Mr. Ron Miller: I t• ought we hoc,already filed an appeal.
Chairperson Stamp. We did, on. they ruled against us basic, !y saying, too late.
Mr. Ron Miller: W'Ten did that cling come out?
Ms. Tolin: I'm pui:ing up the document. You could do a judicial review, which would put it in the
District Court of Appeals. It was January 5, 2021.
Mr. Ron Miller: I find it somehow ironic to be talking in that regard, because the CDD was under
control of Taylor Morrison people and those very people are the ones who asked on behalf of the
CDD, to change t'r? permit, So, how could the CDD possibly object if they are the ones who
requested it?
Mr. Drew Miller: don't understand that logic because there is no point in a CDD period— if you
follow that logic, that logic would go through for everything? Then it doesn't add up. There is no
reason for a COD to do storm water and there is no reason for a CDD to do roads. Now you are
finding the whole purpose of a COD and that seems different than what I felt your intent on this
suit was. This seems interesting. That logic doesn't follow in my head.
c. Memorandum/Complaint regarding Ownership and Maintenance responsibilities for the Main
Preserve. Document Link: http://iimwardcdd.com/Files/FW - Taylor Morrison -
Filing 12 30 2020.pdf
Chairperson Starr:;.;: The complaint, as we indicated earlier in the conversation, there will be an
amendment report coming, and the counsel will work on getting that fine-tuned. We will file that
in the next couple of weeks if not sooner. Jessica or Greg do you have anything to add to that?
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Ms. olin: I think you've covered the primary changes, which is swapping out the two individual
defendants that v✓ere previously named with the two that were on the Board at the time of the
transfer in September 2018.
Mr. ''on Miller: Je:>sica, at the last meeting, I thought what I heard was the intent was to name the
five Taylor Morris personnel on the Board that approved the transfer of the preserves. Is that
stilt true?
Ms. Tolin: I'm sorry, my audio isn't that good. What were you asking?
Mr. 'on Miller: 1 ought that when we discussed at the last meeting the intent was to name the
five Taylor Morris,n personnel on the Board that approved the transfer of the preserves. Their
names added. Is that my understanding?
Ms. Tolin: Yes, that's what we are correcting it to do.
Mr. Pon Miller: Okay. That's good. Ana we olso discussed, and we left it open, about adding the
three new Taylor Morrison members, post conveyance of the preserves, as named defendants. Are
we talking about that as well or is that a different subject?
Mr. Woods: We are right now adding John Wollard and Drew Miller.
Mr. Ron Miller: Why are we excluding Tim Martin who was part of the three working on the Board
at the time? We're adding two, but not him as a third. Before we talk about that I would like to
ask if you are a named defendant, can you be deposed or are you exempt from being deposed?
Chairperson Stamp: He will be.
Mr. Ron Miller:even if(lndecipherable.41:00)
Chairperson Stamp: (Indecipherable.)
Mr. Ron Miller: Why are we excluding Tim Martin? If we are naming two of the three, why not all
th,re-?
Mr. Zack Stamp: Correct me if I'm wrong then, but the thought was (indecipherable) bring in the
property was the thing that triggers the liability (indecipherable) or other things putting a time
period (indecipherable). Whatever our damages are, are our damages. I think we
(indecipherable). Adding more defendants doesn't increase the number of the people that are
liable.
Ms. Tolin: The facts that we are focusing on are the transfer of the preserves which going off of
that September 2018 Meeting Minutes and who was on the Board, that's where we got the named
individual defendants from.
Chairperson Stamp: I have the authority to sign off on the amendment if you want us to go back
and look, but I don't think that naming him as a defendant adds anything to the suit.
(Indecipherable 43:01.)
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Mr. Drew Miller: sent Jim a letter, and if I(indecipherable;. I don't have to read the whole thing,
do I? Do I have to read it if I want to get it :nto the minutes? I want to make something clear
anyway.
Mr. Ward: I don't have it yet.
Mr. Drew Miller: Does it need to be read, or will it become part of the minutes from me sending it
to you?
Chairperson Stam3: Can we come back to this?
Mr. Drew Miller: :=ssentially, 1 think, as a Board Member, i think I have the right to participate
despite the pendir:c lawsuit. I have the right to participate even in the shade sessions and some of
the privileged information; however, I don't think there is a conflict, but as far as any shade
sessions or any behind the scenes is probably a better wcrd for that. Litigation material, I am
going to abstain from that. Don't send it to me. i asked Jim not to send it to me. I'm not going to
not vote, because ; think I have an obligatio7 to the CDD. i have an obligation to I believe the
majority of the residents in the CDD that don't necessarily agree with the direction that this Board
is headed. That said, I am going to abstain from any shade sessions or anything like that to avoid
any impropriety. wanted to make sure that was on the record.
Chairperson Stains:regarding the letters received?(indecipierable 46:20.)
Mr. Ward: I have %t. I will make it a part of the record.
II. District Manager
a. Audit of Preserves Expenditures — In Process, Preliminary schedule - for February 18, 2021
Agenda
Mr. Ward: I just finished the scope of services with the auditors. The auditors are a little bit
myopic sometimes, but we've got to pass the myopic view. They are going to start that, I think
next week, and hopefully it will only take a couple weeks to get it finished and I'll have it ready for
you at the next meeting.
Mr. Martinn Winters: Is that the same with regard to the CDD maintenance expenses for the
preserves?
Mr. Ward: All expenses, yes. Any fund related to the preserves.
Mr. Ron Miller: Hove we asked the auditor to opine on whether or not the escrow fund, since we
don't have it, is that an item required to be put on the books?
Mr. Ward: That audit is in draft form. 1 have asked that question, but I think the partner is mulling
that over. I suspect it will be a footnote to the audit versus something that is in the balance sheet.
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TWELVTH ORDER OF Bt.".'sNESS Board Items
I. Board Member--M-,-tinn Winters—Preserves
a) Calvin,Giordano Associates
b) Ecological Services Associates
Mr. Martinn W?nt,rs: We have a proposal for the preserves. We had four or five people that were
contacted and into-viewed for the purpose of submitting a proposal for maintaining the preserves,
and it came down: to two fira ,sts. There is one that we feel is more qualified based on past
experience, expert ,witness testimony, contacts with agencies and so forth, and we are making a
recommendation; one of the two.
Mr. Ward: I as ; lave indicated before, be:ouse of the COVID situation here in this particular
office, the two firr-is, they would just be available by video. i see Calvin, Giordano is with us today.
I do know Ecolorr.al Services Associates; 173 is in federal court depositions today and is not
available to meet. f you would like to hear from Calvin, Giordano, and Associates, they have made
themselves available to do so. If not, then we can move on. it will be up to you. We have Mike
Conrer and Bruce 7ernard here f.-orn Calvin, Giordano, and Associates.
Chai-person Starr;:: Go ahead aid keep the presentation relatively brief.
Mr. Ward: Please :;ive your name prior to spanking and keep your presentation to no longer than
five minutes betw ..2n the two of you. Thank you.
Mr. Michael Con: er: Senior Landscape Architect with Calvin, Giordano, and Associates. Good
afternoon and The :k you for giv:ng us the opportunity to present our proposal to you. Mr. Conner
gave a brief histe of Calvin, Giordano, and Associates (CGA), in business for over 70 years, as
well as the serves provided by CGA which included planning, landscape architecture and
environmental se ,ices. He indicated CGA had offices in multiple locations throughout the State
of Florida and h A over 20 years' experience in overseeing preserve/conservation/wetland
mitigation areas fc the City of Weston, FL and bringing these types of land to the end of the Army
Corp of Engineer,' acceptance and permit requirements followed by taking over perpetual
maintenance of these types of properties. He reported CGA was prepared to offer these services
to the Flow Way CDD. He stated he understood the conservation area consisted of approximately
1,100 acres and there were contracts in place with a maintenance company for the physical actual
mairtenance activities but the CDD was looking for a company to provide oversight of this activity.
He stated CGA's proposal was to provide project coordination, assist in the administration and
oversight of the maintenance contracts and contractor activities, review payment applications to
ensure the contractor was fulfilling responsibilities, provide recommendations of approval to CDD
Staff, and act as a project liaison as requested if needed to coordinate with contractors, regulatory
agencies, and any residents who might have questions. He stated he understood the developer
was still engaged with the firm Terrell, Hall and Associates who were finishing up the Army Corp of
Engineers activities and had divided the preserve areas into four or five areas. He noted a couple
of the areas had already been accepted, but a couple of the areas had not been accepted and
might even require additional enhancements or plantings. He explained CGA would coordinate
with Terrell, Hall, and Associates (THA) to ensure CGA was not in conflict with what THA was
doing. Mr. Conner continued: We would provide this by inspecting the areas once a year,
probably not all ar one visit. We would probably do it in a couple different visits. We would take
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photographs, ma'-•._ recommesmstions, comments, to pass on to the contractor and provide a
report as well that we would;:tssent to the Board each year. As far as staff goes, in addition to
myself, we have e,a environmental specialist who heads our environmental division, Sandra Lee.
She would be ove seeing the e, -ironmental ecological aspects of the inspections. She has a field
inspector through ..rdeman who goes all over the State looking at and providing these inspections
for these environ_,_ntal areas, as well as myself, registered landscape architect and certified
arborist, would be ;yelping wit;. - :ase and assisting with preparing the reports, exhibits, and math,
and so forth as needed with the staff I have here in the main office in Ft. Lauderdale. Then, in our
construction adm-estration services department we have Bruce Bernard who is also available on
this call to answe- questions, :sat he is physically in the Naples area and is readily available to
provide any services that we see:at any time for the Community. Our total price for providing this
is $25,660 dollars ;For one year, and if that is agreeable to both parties, we could extend it for
another two years at that same price. The other item Mr. Winters had asked us was to calculate
the future cost to aintain the N-eserves and calculate the amount of perpetual escrow needed to
pay for this maintenance. You would be looking at yearly maintenance costs from your
maintenance contractor, which .tie understand may be in the neighborhood of$180,000 dollars
perhaps, with the .addition of our fee of$25,000 dollars, that would be what you would be looking
at in terms of a ye :-r y cost perhaps. We also think it is possible that after the other two areas are
accepted by the rmy Corp of Engineers and through that permitting process, then the routine
maintenance in perpetuity that the CDD is responsible for may actually reduce the amount of the
contracts, mainly s r the maintenance contractor who may just not have as much to do because
the requirements are not as stringent as they are when you still have the permit ongoing. He
asked if there wers any questions and asked if Bruce Bernard had anything to add.
Chairperson Stamp asked if there were any questions; there were none. He thanked Mr. Conner
for the presentat;!..i.
Mr. Ward indicates the Board would deliberate at this time. Mr. Conner and Mr. Bernard left the
Meeting.
Mr. Martinn Wint -s: The second proposal, i haven't had the discussions with Jim, and he's got
some informatior :n that proposal. If we are going to make a recommendation, should we at
least give the Boa: some information on?
Mr. Ward: As Mc r*.inn alluded to, we had two proposals, one from CGA and one from Ecological
Services Associates /ESA). It is a high-level view. I am familiar with the firm of CGA. They have
done work for mr,ny of my CDDs for more than 20 years now. From my perspective they are
geared towards just looking at the operations part of this. They are more than qualified to actually
look at this partica'ar vendor and give us the reports that we want and need for the fee they are
outlining. The sec sad firm that we have, ESA was a recommendation from one of the vendors that
i know Martinn hcc'spoken to and i had spoken to who had decided not to bid on this project. I am
unfamiliar with the firm. I am familiar with his credentials by just reading about him online and
seeing what he is able to do. They are by far superior to CGA in terms of what they can do. His
level of expertise is federal level work, so he is extremely well qualified to do this kind of a project
and assist us in additional areas of those preserves if we get into, or have some kind of issue with,
how that is maintained. He is clearly qualified in depositions. He is clearly qualified as an expert in
state courts and federal courts to be deposed on these matters. His fee is$52,900 dollars a year,
but if you look at just the monitoring part, and bench it against the CGA, it is about the same
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number. It's $25 . 00 or may...;,. $30,000 dollars a year, so they are in the same ballpark. His
additional services that he outlired in here went beyond what we were asking for. He was late to
the game in term.f asking for ;proposal from him,so I haven't had the ability to flush it out. He
is a good firm. IV:gut reaction- is to recommend him to you and say let's try this. I think he is a
good vendor for u:. I think Mcrt;nn agrees with that. My recommendation would be to use ESA.
Mr. Winters: Ti-s vendor came highly recommended to us by someone who came highly
recommended fret Greg Woods law firm. In the chain of command, I think he comes well
qualified and cred-able, and I do think if we are going to get into a fire fight, we probably need the
most qualified ver.vor possible to represent us through expert witness testimony, or just his ability
to gather facts an make sure are protecd. From my standpoint, the extra$20,000 dollars is
well spent, but it up to the =card whether or not they want to go with the cheaper proposal as
he is also well quc:Pied, he just doesn't have the same credentials as the second.
Mr. Kleck: I wonc.. -ed about i,,sse contracts that vie signed with these folks. Are they binding for
30 days, 60 days cancellation type contracts?
Mr. Ward: They > usually;or ' year or 2 years, whatever we need them for, but i always put a
30-or 60-day can::.;ilation clo us, at our sole discretion in all these contracts.
Chairperson Star:. Is it your _xpectation Jtm that you will exclude the services that raise it to
$50,000 dollars an:.in the it ll be more like$30,000 dollars?
Mr. Ward: I thin.. I will splitt;:.em. So, we will have a scope of services that authorize specific
elements that we do, and the rest of the elements will be there, but he will have to take specific
direction from the =DD to implement those additional services.
Mr. Ron Miller: I '."ought the se.-vices between the two are the same but that ESA is like $20,000
dollars more,so I :s confused on that, but the services are the same?
Mr. Ward: The E.1,4 proposC, went beyond what the original scope was intended to be, so
that's how you get the$50,000 dollars. If you do an apples-to-apples comparison of just looking at
this vendor and be aching against CGA, you are not far off the same numbers. He may be$20,000
he may be $30,0C.;. They are n the same ballpark, but his credentials are just, I think, above and
beyond in this. As Martinn indicated, he came from a vendor that was recommended by Greg
Woods to start wi'. ;, sc his credentials are extremely good.
Chairperson Stam Do we need a motion?
Mr. Ward: Let's just do a motion to rank ESA as#1 and CGA as#2, then authorize the manager to
negotiate with the 41 recommended.
1 On MOTION made by Mr. Tom Kleck, seconded by Mr. Martinn
Winters, and with all in favor, Ecological Services Associates were
ranked r 1, and Calvin, Giordano and Associates were ranked #2, and
the Distract Manager was authorized to negotiate with the #1 ranked
firm.
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THIRTEENTH ORDER OF 5USINESS Auc once Comme
Chairperson Stamp ask€: if there were any audience comments.
Mr. Ward asked if there ;vas anyone .n the phone with questions or comments for the staff or Board.
He asked speakers to sta:e their names prior to speaking.
Mr. Dave Boguslawski: just wanted to pass along one piece of information. It involves the maintenance
contract between the l-;:'A and the CDD. To the extent that the HOA has maintenance duties on CDD
assets, Pope Golf is the '-2e who would be managing that, and Pope Golf has given termination notice to
the homeowner's assoc . tion effective March 31. We have been going through a record gathering
process with Pope Golf ...nd Taylor Morrison and they have been helpful, but we now have a shorter
timeline, so if you have maintenance records needs, it is important to get your oar in the water pretty
soon. That's just an FYI. That's all.
Mr. Kleck: I have spoken with a couple of the homeowners about advertising that Taylor Morrison is
doing for the Hatcher H-ames. One of the things that came is they are saying that there are no CDD fees
associated with those ic,:otions. I would like to get some clarification on what exactly that means. Are
they not part of Espionage? Are they not paying any fees?
Mr. Ron Miller: What I s':w said CDD;ndecipherable 1:07:04).
Mr. Drew Miller: That': the Hatcher parcel (indecipherable). That's the debt. We are not putting the
debt on those houses, sc they don't have debt on those houses. I felt the best thing for the CDD would be
to make it equal and ha > them—
Mr. Ward: The answer lc your quesfo.n directly is; Hatcher is in the District. There are two types of
assessments we levy: ore is a debt assessment. The Board did not adopt the two resolutions necessary
to proceed forward with that(indecipherable 1:07:55)subject to operations going forward.
Mr. Kleck: So, the main: nance is one of the things we get on a yearly basis with our tax bill. Is that not
included in the Hatcher --operties?
Mr. Ward: Hatcher we be on the tax bill for operations if the CDD Board chooses to put them in the
General Fund Assessmer or your operating assessment, this summer.
Mr. Kleck: Those who I've talked to are concerned about it.
Chairperson Stamp: The/are going to pay operations and maintenance.
Mr. Kleck: Which is how :such per year?
Mr. 1:08:38: $517 dollars.
Mr. Kleck: But they do not have to pay the debt that we are all paying for the structure that was set up?
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Mr. Ward: There is no infrastructure that was paid for by the CDD in Hatcher that would warrant us the
ability to levy an assessment.
Mr. Kleck: So, they've paid for that in some other way?
Mr. Ward: Obviously,yes.
Mr. Ed Staley: Clarification, with respect to the lakes, it came up before, ownership, maintenance
easement, water management system, just for clarification, it is my understanding that presently the
lakes continue to be owned by Taylor Morrison, that there is a maintenance easement that runs in favor
of the CDD because the lakes are part of the water management system, pursuant to the contract
between the CDD and Developer at this present time, that water management system responsibility
which includes the lakes resides with the HOA. Is that accurate?
Mr. Ward: The ultimately responsibility lies with the CDD. The CDD has chosen a maintenance vendor
which happens to be the HOA,but the responsibility is always the CDD as it owns that asset.
Mr. Staley: So,you've got the three entities involved, the ownership entity, the easement of running and
the contract.
Mr. Ward: The land happens to be in the name of Taylor Morrison, but our easement allows us to
operate and maintain whatever we have over that property in perpetuity. At some point I'm sure Taylor
Morrison will obviously want to get rid of that land somewhere.
Chairperson Stamp asked if there were any additional questions or comments. There were none.
FOURTEENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS Announcement of Next Meeting
February 18,2021
Chairperson Stamp: Our next meeting will be February 18,2021.
FIFTEENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS Adjournment
Chairperson Stamp adjourned the meeting at approximately 2:12 p.m.
On MOTION made by Mr. Tom Kleck, seconded by Mr. Martinn
Winters,and with all in favor,the Meeting was adjourned.
ATTEST: Flow Way Community Dev I pment District
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James p Ward,Secretary Zack Stamp,Chairper n
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