BCC Minutes 01/09/2024January 9, 2024
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TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
Naples, Florida, January 9, 2024
LET IT BE REMEMBERED that the Board of County
Commissioners, in and for the County of Collier, and also acting as
the Board of Zoning Appeals and as the governing board(s) of such
special districts as have been created according to law and having
conducted business herein, met on this date at 9:00 a.m., in
REGULAR SESSION in Building "F" of the Government Complex,
East Naples, Florida, with the following Board members present:
Chairman: Rick LoCastro
Chris Hall
Dan Kowal
William L. McDaniel, Jr.
Burt L. Saunders
ALSO PRESENT:
Amy Patterson, County Manager
Daniel Rodriguez, Deputy County Manager
Jeffrey A. Klatzkow, County Attorney
Crystal K. Kinzel, Clerk
Troy Miller, Communications & Customer Relations
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COLLIER COUNTY
Board of County Commissioners
Community Redevelopment Agency Board (CRAB)
Airport Authority
AGENDA
Board of County Commission Chambers
Collier County Government Center
3299 Tamiami Trail East, 3rd Floor
Naples, FL 34112
January 09, 2024
9:00 AM
Commissioner Rick LoCastro, District 1; – Chair
Commissioner Chris Hall, District 2; – Vice Chair
Commissioner Burt Saunders, District 3
Commissioner Dan Kowal, District 4; – CRAB Co-Chair
Commissioner William L. McDaniel, Jr., District 5; – CRAB Co-Chair
NOTICE: ALL PERSONS WISHING TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS MUST
REGISTER PRIOR TO PRESENTATION OF THE AGENDA ITEM TO BE
ADDRESSED. ALL REGISTERED SPEAKERS WILL RECEIVE UP TO THREE
MINUTES UNLESS THE TIME IS ADJUSTED BY THE CHAIRMAN.
ADDITIONAL MINUTES MAY BE CEDED TO AN IN-PERSON SPEAKER BY
OTHER REGISTERED SPEAKERS WHO MUST BE PRESENT AT THE TIME
THE SPEAKER IS HEARD. NO PUBLIC SPEAKERS WILL BE HEARD FOR
PROCLAMATIONS, PRESENTATIONS AND PUBLIC PETITIONS.
SPEAKERS ON PRESENTATIONS ARE LIMITED TO 10 MINUTES, UNLESS
EXTENDED BY THE CHAIRMAN. ALL PERSONS WISHING TO SPEAK ON A
CONSENT ITEM MUST REGISTER PRIOR TO THE BOARD’S APPROVAL
OF THE DAY’S CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH IS HEARD AT THE
BEGINNING OF THE MEETING FOLLOWING THE PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE.
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ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON PUBLIC PETITION
MUST SUBMIT THE REQUEST IN WRITING TO THE COUNTY MANAGER
AT LEAST 13 DAYS PRIOR TO THE DATE OF THE MEETING. THE
REQUEST SHALL PROVIDE DETAILED INFORMATION AS TO THE
NATURE OF THE PETITION. THE PUBLIC PETITION MAY NOT INVOLVE
A MATTER ON A FUTURE BOARD AGENDA AND MUST CONCERN A
MATTER IN WHICH THE BOARD CAN TAKE ACTION. PUBLIC
PETITIONS ARE LIMITED TO A SINGLE PRESENTER, WITH A MAXIMUM
TIME OF TEN MINUTES, UNLESS EXTENDED BY THE CHAIRMAN.
SHOULD THE PETITION BE GRANTED, THE ITEM WILL BE PLACED ON A
FUTURE AGENDA FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON GENERAL TOPICS NOT
ON THIS AGENDA OR A FUTURE AGENDA MUST REGISTER TO SPEAK
PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE AGENDA BEING
CALLED BY THE CHAIRMAN. SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO THREE
MINUTES, AND NO ADDITIONAL MINUTES MAY BE CEDED TO THE
SPEAKER. AT THE CHAIRMAN’S DISCRETION, THE NUMBER OF PUBLIC
SPEAKERS MAY BE LIMITED TO 5 FOR THAT MEETING.
ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL A DECISION OF THIS BOARD
WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDING PERTAINING THERETO,
AND THEREFORE MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD
OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE
TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED.
COLLIER COUNTY ORDINANCE NO. 2003-53 AS AMENDED BY
ORDINANCE 2004-05 AND 2007-24, REQUIRES THAT ALL LOBBYISTS
SHALL, BEFORE ENGAGING IN ANY LOBBYING ACTIVITIES (INCLUDING
BUT NOT LIMITED TO, ADDRESSING THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS), REGISTER WITH THE CLERK TO THE BOARD AT THE
BOARD MINUTES AND RECORDS DEPARTMENT.
IF YOU ARE A PERSON WITH A DISABILITY WHO NEEDS ANY
ACCOMMODATION IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCEEDING,
YOU ARE ENTITLED, AT NO COST TO YOU, THE PROVISION OF CERTAIN
ASSISTANCE. PLEASE CONTACT THE COLLIER COUNTY FACILITIES
MANAGEMENT DIVISION LOCATED AT 3335 EAST TAMIAMI TRAIL,
SUITE 1, NAPLES, FLORIDA, 34112-5356, (239) 252-8380; ASSISTED
LISTENING DEVICES FOR THE HEARING IMPAIRED ARE AVAILABLE IN
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THE FACILITIES MANAGEMENT DIVISION.
LUNCH RECESS SCHEDULED FOR 12:00 NOON TO 1:00 P.M
1. INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
A. Invocation by Commissioner Hall
2. AGENDA AND MINUTES
A. Approval of today's regular, consent and summary agenda as amended (ex
parte disclosure provided by commission members for consent agenda.)
B. Recommendation that the Board authorize the new Chairs for both the Board
of County Commissioners and the Community Redevelopment Agency to
execute all documents approved at both this meeting and those documents
which were previously approved but are pending signature.
C. Recommendation that the Board appoint its members to the Community
Redevelopment Agency, the Tourist Development Council, the Community
and Economic Development Board, the Affordable Housing Advisory
Committee, the Public Safety Coordinating Council, and the Southwest
Florida Regional Planning Council.
D. October 24, 2023 BCC Minutes
E. December 12, 2023 BCC Minutes
3. AWARDS AND RECOGNITIONS
A. EMPLOYEE
B. ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS
C. RETIREES
D. EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH
4. PROCLAMATIONS
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A. Proclamation designating January 15, 2024, as a day to remember and
celebrate Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s dream. To be accepted by
Vincent Keeys, President of the NAACP, and Diann Keeys, Parade Chair,
and other distinguished guests.
B. Proclamation designating January 2024 as Human Trafficking Awareness
Month in Collier County. To be accepted by Linda Oberhaus, Chief
Executive Officer, The Shelter for Abused Women & Children.
C. Proclamation recognizing the contributions of Naples Botanical Garden and
celebrating the Evenstad Horticulture Campus for its far-reaching impact on
the Garden, Southwest Florida, and beyond. To be accepted by Britt
Patterson-Weber, Vice President of Education & Interpretation.
5. PRESENTATIONS
A. ARTIST OF THE MONTH
6. PUBLIC PETITIONS
7. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON GENERAL TOPICS NOT ON THE CURRENT
OR FUTURE AGENDA
8. BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS
9. ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARINGS
10. BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
11. COUNTY MANAGER'S REPORT
A. This item to be heard at 2:00 p.m. Recommendation to hear a presentation
of the 2023 Collier County Community Assessment. (Amy Patterson,
County Manager) (All Districts)
B. Recommendation to approve an Agreement for Sale and Purchase with
Andrew J. Kleinberger and Terrie R. Kleinberger as Trustee of the Andrew
and Terrie Kleinberger Revocable Trust (the “Kleinberger Rev. Trust”) for
two parcels totaling five acres under the Conservation Collier Land
Acquisition Program at a cost not to exceed $106,500. (Jaime Cook,
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Director, Development Review) (District 5)
C. Recommendation to award Construction Invitation to Bid (“ITB”) No. 23-
8105, “Collier County Fire and EMS Station 74,” to Rycon Construction,
Inc., in the amount of $9,464,456.00, authorize the Chairman to sign the
attached Agreement, and approve the necessary Budget Amendments. (Tony
Barone, Principal Project Manager, Facilities Management) (District 5)
D. Recommendation to approve the attached proposed Facility License
Agreement and Addendum between FC Naples USL, LLC, USL Pro-2,
LLC, and PARA SFM, LLC, at the Paradise Coast Sports Complex. (Dan
Rodriguez, Deputy County Manager) (All Districts)
E. Recommendation to accept an update regarding the results of the Riviera
Golf Estates straw poll survey distributed and tabulated by the Collier
County Supervisor of Elections and provide direction on how to proceed.
(Ed Finn, Deputy County Manager) (District 4)
F. Recommendation to award Invitation to Bid (“ITB”) No. 23-8070RR,
“Collier County Jail (Building J-1) Roof Replacement” project, to JR &
CO., Inc., in the amount of $4,307,210, approve Owner’s Allowance of
$326,000, authorize the Chairman to sign the attached agreement, and
authorize a Budget Amendment in the amount of $752,441.70 within the
County-Wide Capital Projects fund. (Project No. 50229). (John McCormick,
Director, Facilities Management Division) (District 4)
G. Recommendation to approve the Guaranteed Maximum Price (“GMP”) First
Amendment to Agreement No. 21-7883-ST, Construction Management at
Risk (“CMAR”) contract, with O-A-K/Florida, Inc., d/b/a Owen-Ames-
Kimball Company, for construction services for the Main Campus Upgrades
in the amount of $17,648,689.97, and authorize the Chairman to sign the
attached amendment and approve the necessary Budget Amendments (Fund
(3018), Project Nos. 50214, 50189 and 50184). (John McCormick, Director,
Facilities Management Division) (District 4)
12. COUNTY ATTORNEY'S REPORT
13. OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS
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14. AIRPORT AUTHORITY AND/OR COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY
A. AIRPORT
B. COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
15. STAFF AND COMMISSION GENERAL COMMUNICATIONS
A. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON GENERAL TOPICS NOT ON THE
CURRENT OR FUTURE AGENDA BY INDIVIDUALS NOT
ALREADY HEARD DURING PREVIOUS PUBLIC COMMENTS IN
THIS MEETING
B. STAFF PROJECT UPDATES
C. STAFF AND COMMISSION GENERAL COMMUNICATIONS
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16. CONSENT AGENDA - all matters listed under this item are considered to be
routine and action will be taken by one motion without separate discussion of
each item. If discussion is desired by a member of the board, that item(s) will
be removed from the consent agenda and considered separately.
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A. GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT
1) Recommendation to approve the release of a code enforcement lien
with an accrued value of $289,600 by approving a reduction of fines
in the amount of $266,768 and accepting payment of $22,832 in the
code enforcement action titled Board of County Commissioners v.
Robert Arnold, in Special Magistrate Case Nos. CEV20200002189
and CESD20200002191 related to the property located at 5442 29th
PL SW. (District 3)
2) Recommendation to accept the staff summary for the 2024 Southwest
Florida Coastal Flood Study (SWFL-CF) edition of the Federal
Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) Digital Flood Insurance
Rate Map (DFIRM) for Collier County. (District 1, District 2, District
4)
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3) Recommendation to authorize staff to submit an application to the
Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission to be eligible to
receive funding assistance services worth $35,000 in FY 2025 for
wetland restoration within the Conservation Collier Pepper Ranch
Preserve and to authorize staff to accept such funding assistance
services, if awarded. (All Districts)
4) Recommendation to approve the Conservation Collier Caracara
Prairie Preserve Conservation Bank Habitat Management Plan 10-
Year Update under the Conservation Collier Program. (All Districts)
5) Recommendation to authorize the County Manager, or designee, to
release the Utilities Performance Security (UPS) in the amount of
$36,985 to the Project Engineer or Developer’s designated agent for
Encompass Health Rehabilitation Hospital of Naples,
PL20220003017. (District 3)
6) Recommendation to authorize the Clerk of Courts to release a
Performance Bond in the amount of $513,971, which was posted as a
guarantee for Excavation Permit Number PL20210000187 and
PL20210001212 for work associated with Valencia Trails Naples and
Valencia Trails - Plat Three. (District 3)
7) Recommendation to authorize the Clerk of Courts to release a
Performance Bond in the amount of $184,346, which was posted as a
guarantee for Excavation Permit Number PL20210001927 for work
associated with Valencia Trails Naples Lakes 19, 20, & 21. (District
3)
8) Recommendation to authorize the Clerk of Courts to release a
Performance Bond in the amount of $59,880, which was posted as a
guarantee for Excavation Permit Number PL20220000406 for work
associated with Palisades. (District 2)
9) Recommendation to approve final acceptance of the potable water and
sewer utility facilities and accept the conveyance of a portion of the
potable water and sewer facilities and appurtenant utility easement for
Ekos on Santa Barbara, PL20230011208. (District 1)
10) This item requires that Commission members provide ex-parte
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disclosure. Should a hearing be held on this item, all participants
are required to be sworn in. Recommendation to approve for
recording the final plat of Esplanade at Rivergrass - Phase 1
(Application Number PL20220005479), approval of the standard form
Construction and Maintenance Agreement, and approval of the
performance security in the amount of $18,535,108.54. (District 5)
11) Recommendation to approve final acceptance of the potable water and
sewer utility facilities for Rattlesnake Hammock Self Storage - Phase
2, PL20230015805. (District 1)
12) Recommendation to approve final acceptance of the potable water and
sewer utility facilities for SkySail Amenity Center, PL20230009260.
(District 5)
13) Recommendation to approve a Resolution for final acceptance of the
private roadway and drainage improvements, and acceptance of the
plat dedications, for the final plat of Soluna, Application Number
PL20210000514, and authorize the release of the maintenance
security in the amount of $2,700,983.78. (District 3)
14) Recommendation to approve final acceptance of the potable water
utility facilities and accept the conveyance of a portion of the potable
water facilities and appurtenant utility easement for Vanderbilt Way
Apartments, PL20230001658. (District 3)
15) Recommendation to adopt a resolution waiving the optional local
public hearing relating to the petition to establish the Tranquility
Lakes Community Development District pursuant to Sections
190.005(1), Florida Statutes. (District 5)
16) Recommendation to approve staff enhancements to the application
and review process for the Workforce Housing Land Acquisition
portion of the voter-approved Local Government Infrastructure One-
Cent Sales Surtax. (All Districts)
B. TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT
1) Recommendation to approve an Agreement for the purchase of a
drainage easement (Parcel 150DE) required for the West Goodlette-
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Frank Road Area Stormwater Improvement Project Phase 2; and
authorize necessary Budget Amendment (Project No. 60142).
(Estimated Fiscal Impact: $20,900.) (District 4)
2) Recommendation to approve an Agreement for the purchase of a
drainage easement (Parcel 149DE) required for the West Goodlette-
Frank Road Area Stormwater Improvement Project Phase 2; and
authorize the necessary Budget Amendment. (Project No. 60142).
(Estimated Fiscal Impact: $44,400.) (District 4)
3) Recommendation to approve an Agreement for the purchase of a
drainage easement (Parcel 138DE) required for the West Goodlette-
Frank Road Area Stormwater Improvement Project Phase 2; and
authorize necessary Budget Amendment (Project No. 60142).
(Estimated Fiscal Impact: $29,050.) (District 4)
4) Recommendation to award Invitation to Bid (“ITB”) No. 23-8170,
“Motorola Irrigation Central Control System Parts and Services,” to
Contemporary Controls & Communications, Inc., and authorize the
Chairman to sign the attached agreement. (All Districts)
5) Recommendation to adopt a resolution approving and authorizing the
Chairman to execute the Public Transit Grant Agreement (PTGA)
451893-1-94-22 with the Florida Department of Transportation to
accept Federal Transit Administration Section 5311 Rural Area
Program in the amount of $575,000 for the purchase of a replacement
bus and authorize the necessary Budget Amendments. (District 5)
6) Recommendation to approve and execute a Transportation Regional
Incentive Program (TRIP)/ County Incentive Grant Program (CIGP)
State-Funded Grant Agreement with the Florida Department of
Transportation (FDOT) reimbursing the County up to $2,500,000 for
the design of the Immokalee Road at Livingston Road Improvements,
and authorize the necessary Budget Amendments; FPN 452248-1-34-
01/02. (Project No. 60268, Funds 1841 and 1842). (District 2)
7) Recommendation that the Board accept the Immokalee Transportation
Network Plan that identifies opportunities to improve the
transportation network in Immokalee. (District 5)
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8) Recommendation to approve the Fifth Amended and Restated
Interlocal Agreement for the Southwest Florida Job Training
Consortium. (All Districts)
9) Recommendation to (1) approve an after-the-fact payment for
materials under Change Order #1 in the amount of $15,378.20
obtained prior to proper approval, to MasTec North America, Inc.
under the expired construction agreement No. 20-7791 “Vanderbilt
Drive Underground Utility Conversion Phase 4” project, (2) approve
an after-the-fact payment for materials under Work Directive #1 in the
amount of $25,959.63, obtained prior to proper approval, to MasTec
North America, Inc. under the expired construction agreement No. 20-
7791 “Vanderbilt Drive Underground Utility Conversion Phase 4”
project, (3) waive the Procurement Ordinance requirement to execute
change order for the use of owner’s allowance for materials
authorized under Work Directive #2, (4) approve an after-the-fact
payment for materials under Work Directive #2 in the amount of
$12,064.46 to be paid out of owner’s allowance, (5) deem that these
expenditures have a valid public purpose; and (6) waive the liquidated
damages in the amount of $84,500.
C. PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT
1) Recommendation to waive liquidated damages in the amount of
$692,640, and authorize payment of Pay Application No. 4 pertaining
to Agreement No. 14-6213 for the “South County Regional Water
Treatment Plant Chlorine Storage Building Improvements” project
with Douglas N. Higgins, Inc. (Project No. 70136) (All Districts)
D. PUBLIC SERVICES DEPARTMENT
1) Recommendation to accept the AmeriCorps September 11th National
Day of Service and Remembrance grant award in the amount of
$196,561 and a local contribution in the amount of $10,953 through
in-kind and local funds and allow the County Manager or their
designee to serve as the authorized representative for the grantor
electronic submission system, eGrants, throughout the grant award
period, and authorize the necessary Budget Amendments. (Housing
Grant Fund 1835 and Community & Human Services Grant Support
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Fund 1806) (All Districts)
2) Recommendation to approve an after-the-fact payment for two (2)
invoices in the total amount of $2,782.89 to Tate Transport
Corporation for sand hauling for parks athletic fields ordered and
received by Parks and Recreation Division in June 2023. (All
Districts)
3) Recommendation to approve and authorize the Chairman to sign a
Landlord Payment Agreement between Collier County and Ariadna
Barbe-Villa, allowing the Community and Human Services Division
(CHS) to administer the Rapid Re-Housing and Homelessness
Prevention Program through the Emergency Solutions and Rapid
Unsheltered Survivor Housing Grants Program. (All Districts)
4) Recommendation to approve and authorize the Chairman to sign a
Landlord Payment Agreement between Collier County and G. Azar
Electric, Inc., allowing the Community and Human Services Division
(CHS) to administer the Rapid Re-Housing and Homelessness
Prevention Program through the Emergency Solutions and Rapid
Unsheltered Survivor Housing (RUSH) Grants Program. (All
Districts)
5) Recommendation to approve and authorize the Chairman to sign a
Landlord Payment Agreement between Collier County and Jantina
Hanna, allowing the Community and Human Services Division (CHS)
to administer the Rapid Re-Housing and Homelessness Prevention
Program through the Emergency Solutions and Rapid Unsheltered
Survivor Housing Grants Program. (All Districts)
6) Recommendation to approve and authorize the Chairman to sign a
Landlord Payment Agreement between Collier County and Hiran
Vivek, allowing the Community and Human Services Division (CHS)
to administer the Rapid Re-Housing and Homelessness Prevention
Program through the Emergency Solutions and Rapid Unsheltered
Survivor Housing Grants Program. (All Districts)
7) Recommendation to approve an after-the-fact First Amendment with
the Area Agency on Aging for Southwest Florida, Inc., American
Rescue Plan Act funding under the Older Americans Act grant
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program for the Collier County Services for Seniors Program to revise
the Service Rate Report (Attachment XIV). (Human Services Grant
Fund 1837) (All Districts)
E. CORPORATE BUSINESS OPERATIONS
1) Recommendation to approve an Assumption Agreement assigning all
rights, duties, benefits, and obligations under Agreement #18-7432-
SM, Professional Services Library Survey and Mapping Category,
from Dagostino Geospatial, Inc., d/b/a Dagostino & Wood, Inc., to
Causseaux, Hewett & Walpole, Inc., d/b/a CHW. (All Districts)
2) Recommendation to 1) approve the administrative report prepared by
the Procurement Services Division for disposal of property that is no
longer viable, 2) remove capital assets from the County’s records, and
3) recognize revenue generated from auction. (All Districts)
3) Recommendation to approve a Second Amendment to Agreement No.
19-072-NS with Hyland Software, Inc., the provider of the County’s
Enterprise Content Management System, in the amount of $68,220 to
install and configure an upgrade to the Hyland software, and to
authorize the Chairman to sign the attached amendment. (All
Districts)
F. COUNTY MANAGER OPERATIONS
1) Recommendation to adopt a Resolution approving amendment
(appropriating grants, donations, contributions, or insurance proceeds)
to the Fiscal Year 2023-24 Adopted Budget. (The Budget
Amendments in the attached Resolution have been reviewed and
approved by the Board of County Commissioners via separate
Executive Summaries.) (All Districts)
2) Recommendation to authorize the County Manager, as authorized
agent, to execute a Federally Funded Subaward and Grant Agreement
through the Florida Division of Emergency Management for
reimbursement of expenditures associated with preparation for and
recovery from Hurricane Idalia. (All Districts)
3) Recommendation to approve the expenditure of the Tourism
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4) Development Tax Promotion funds to support the November 2023
Doral Gold Cup event up to $12,000; to waive any irregularities in the
process for items including lack of written approval, pre-approval or
TDC and Board approval; and make a finding that these expenditures
promote tourism. (All Districts)
5) Recommendation to approve the expenditure of the Tourism
Development Tax Promotion funds to support the October 2023
Advertising World Series Event, up to $5,000, to waive any
irregularities in the process for items, including lack of written
approval, pre-approval or TDC and Board approval; and make a
finding that these expenditures promote tourism. (All Districts)
6) Recommendation to approve 1) Change Order No. 5 under Agreement
No. 20-7680 for the Pelican Bay Sidewalk Improvement Design with
Agnoli, Barber & Brundage, Inc., to add the amount of $94,816.00 for
additional engineering services to revise the original designs and
perform contract administration services during Phase 2 construction,
2) authorize the Chairman to sign the attached change order, and 3)
approve the necessary Budget Amendment. (Project No. 50178)
(District 2)
7) This item continued from the December 12, 2023, BCC Meeting.
Recommendation to establish a policy for leasing a County-owned
mobile home at the Paradise Coast Sports Complex to law
enforcement officers for greater onsite law enforcement presence,
adopt a standard lease template, and authorize the County Manager or
their designee to execute such leases. (District 3)
8) Recommendation to award Invitation to Bid (“ITB”) No. 22-8005,
“Janitorial Services,” Zones 1, 3 & 4 to: High Sources Inc., as Primary
Vendor, and 3H & 3H, Inc., as Secondary Vendor; and ITB No. 22-
8005S, “Janitorial Services Supplemental,” Zone 2 to: American
Facility Services, Inc., as Primary Vendor, and High Sources Inc., as
Secondary Vendor, for County-Wide janitorial cleaning services and
authorize the Chairman to sign the attached Agreements. (All
Districts)
9) Recommendation to award Invitation to Bid (“ITB”) No. 23-8169,
Painting and Pressure Washing Services, to Florida Service Painting,
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Inc., d/b/a Service Contracting Solutions, and authorize the Chairman
to sign the attached agreement. (All Districts)
10) Recommendation to approve administratively approved Change Order
No. 11, providing for a 180-day extension under Agreement No. 16-
6622, “Big Corkscrew Island Regional Park,” with Q. Grady Minor &
Associates, P.A., and authorize the Chairman to sign the attached
change order. (Project No. 80039) (District 5)
11) Recommendation to approve and authorize the Chairman to execute
the Second Extension and Amendment to the Sponsorship Agreement
between Collier County and Spirit Promotions for the 2025-2029 U.S.
Open Pickleball Championships and make a finding that this item
promotes tourism. (All Districts)
12) Recommendation to authorize expenditures exceeding the $50,000
competitive threshold, under an Exemption from the Competitive
Process, through fiscal year 2027, for Braxton College to provide
EMS supervised skill training and experience to students enrolling in
Emergency Medical Services Technology Programs. (All Districts)
G. AIRPORT AUTHORITY
H. BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
I. MISCELLANEOUS CORRESPONDENCE
J. OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS
1) To record in the minutes of the Board of County Commissioners, the
check number (or other payment method), amount, payee, and
purpose for which the referenced disbursements in the amount of
$29,973,244.55 were drawn for the periods between November 30,
2023 and December 13, 2023 pursuant to Florida Statute 136.06. (All
Districts)
2) To record in the minutes of the Board of County Commissioners, the
check number (or other payment method), amount, payee, and
purpose for which the referenced disbursements in the amount of
$46,469,660.77 were drawn for the periods between December 14,
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2023 and December 27, 2023 pursuant to Florida Statute 136.06. (All
Districts)
3) Request that the Board approve and determine valid public purpose
for invoices payable and purchasing card transactions as of December
20, 2023. (All Districts)
4) Request that the Board approve and determine valid public purpose
for invoices payable and purchasing card transactions as of January 3,
2024. (All Districts)
5) Report to the Board regarding the investment of County funds as of
the quarter ended September 30, 2023. (All Districts)
K. COUNTY ATTORNEY
1) Recommendation to appoint 2 members to the Golden Gate
Community Center Advisory Board. (District 3)
2) Recommendation to reappoint 3 members to the Housing Finance
Authority. (All Districts)
3) Recommendation to authorize the County Attorney to file a lawsuit on
behalf of the Collier County Board of County Commissioners, for its
Emergency Medical Services Department, against Matthew Ray
Brennan, as the Personal Representative of the Estate of Judith L.
Jacobson, in County small claims court to recover an objected-to
ambulance bill totaling $1,070, plus attorney’s fees and costs of
litigation. (All Districts)
4) Recommendation to approve and authorize the Chairman to execute
the First Amendment to Agreement for Legal Services relating to the
County’s Retention Agreement with Boy Agnew Potanovic Miller,
PLLC, extending the expiration date to January 9, 2026 with three
one-year renewals and increasing the law firm’s hourly rates. There is
no new fiscal impact associated with this Amendment. (All Districts)
5) Recommendation to reappoint two members to the Ochopee Fire
District Advisory Committee. (District 5)
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L. COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
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17. SUMMARY AGENDA - this section is for advertised public hearings and
must meet the following criteria: 1) a recommendation for approval from
staff; 2) unanimous recommendation for approval by the collier county
planning commission or other authorizing agencies of all members present
and voting; 3) no written or oral objections to the item received by staff, the
collier county planning commission, other authorizing agencies or the board,
prior to the commencement of the bcc meeting on which the items are
scheduled to be heard; and 4) no individuals are registered to speak in
opposition to the item. For those items which are quasi-judicial in nature, all
participants must be sworn in.
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A. This item requires that Commission members provide ex-parte
disclosure. Should a hearing be held on this item, all participants are
required to be sworn in. Recommendation to approve Petition VAC-
PL20220006722, to disclaim, renounce, and vacate the County and the
public interest in the northern 30 feet of the easterly 140 feet of Coconut
River, located along the southerly border of Lot 27 of Coconut River Unit
No. 1, according to the plat thereof as recorded in Plat Book 3, Page 58, of
the Public Records of Collier County, Florida, located at 1480 Airport-
Pulling Road North, Naples, FL 34104, at the southwest quadrant of Airport-
Pulling Road North and Longboat Drive, in Section 35, Township 49 South,
Range 25 East, Collier County, Florida, and to accept Petitioner’s grant of
replacement easements. (District 4)
B. This item requires that Commission members provide ex-parte
disclosure. Should a hearing be held on this item, all participants are
required to be sworn in. Recommendation to approve a rezoning
Ordinance for the 12425 Union Road RPUD to allow up to 109 residential
dwelling units on 51.5± acres of property located in Port of the Islands,
approximately ½ mile north of Tamiami Trail East (US 41) at 12400 and
12425 Union Road, in Section 4, Township 52, Range 28, Collier County,
Florida. (PL20220004175) (District 1)
18. ADJOURN
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INQUIRIES CONCERNING CHANGES TO THE BOARD’S AGENDA SHOULD
BE MADE TO THE COUNTY MANAGER’S OFFICE AT 252-8383.
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MS. PATTERSON: Good morning, Commissioners. You
have a live mic.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Good morning, everybody.
AUDIENCE MEMBERS: Good morning.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: How are you doing?
Welcome to Commissioner Hall's father sitting right there.
Row 1, Seat 1. You can't get any better than that. It's VIP
seating. That's it. It's VIP seating.
(Applause.)
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: You never thought this kid was
going to turn out to much, did you? If you want to come up and
tell us a little bit about his childhood, we'd like to hear a little bit
more about it.
All right. County Manager, what's next?
MS. PATTERSON: Well, welcome to the January 9th,
2024, Board of County Commissioners meeting.
We're going to begin with the invocation led by
Commissioner Hall and then the Pledge of Allegiance led by
Colonel James A. Hall.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Excellent.
Item #1A
INVOCATION BY COMMISSIONER HALL - INVOCATION
GIVEN
COMMISSIONER HALL: Let's bring this new year in
right.
Father, we just thank you, Lord, for your presence. We
thank you for your goodness. We thank you, God, we
acknowledge you as omnipotent, all powerful, your omniscience,
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you're all-knowing. And you're omnipresent, Father; you're
everywhere.
I thank you, God, as we begin this meeting and we begin
this year as the Commission, we yield to you, Father, because we
trust in you. God, you said to ask for wisdom, and you wouldn't
hold it back, so we're asking for wisdom to make the decisions
that we have to make.
You said if we would steward well what are other peoples,
that we would have our own, so we thank you, Father, that we
can have stewardship and that we can exercise it as you would
have us.
We thank you for your covenant, God, with the Jewish
people and now the Gentiles; that we're the leaders and not the
followers; that Collier County is above and not beneath; that
Collier County is blessed in the city, blessed in the field.
God, you said everything that we lay our hand to would
prosper. We thank you for that. Lord, you said that no weapon
that's ever formed against us would prosper and that every tongue
that rose against us in judgment, we could condemn those words
as your children.
So I thank you, Father, for every commissioner up here, that
this -- this scripture, Father, is alive and well. We thank you,
God, that if you're for us, who can be against us.
And, God, we just -- we ask for your guidance, your
perseverance, and your protection over us. We thank you,
Father, that you said that you would perfect everything that
concerns us and, God, that if we acknowledged you in all of our
ways, you would direct our paths. So we welcome you here
today and for this year, in 2024, in Jesus' name. Amen.
(The Pledge of Allegiance was recited in unison.)
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I make a lot better door
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than I do a window.
Item #2A
APPROVAL OF TODAY'S REGULAR, CONSENT AND
SUMMARY AGENDA AS AMENDED (EX PARTE
DISCLOSURE PROVIDED BY COMMISSION MEMBERS FOR
CONSENT AGENDA.) - MOTION TO APPROVE BY
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL; SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER KOWAL - APPROVED AND/OR ADOPTED
W/CHANGES
MS. PATTERSON: Commissioners, we'll begin with
agenda changes for the January 9th, 2024, BCC meeting. We
have several.
First, move Item 16F6 to Item 11H. This item was
continued from the December 12th, 2023, Board meeting. This
is a recommendation to establish a policy for leasing a
county-owned mobile home at the Paradise Coast Sports
Complex to law enforcement officers for greater on-site law
enforcement presence, adopt a standard lease template, and
authorize the County Manager or their designee to execute such
leases. This item is moved to the regular agenda at
Commissioner McDaniel's request.
Move Item 16F9 to Item 11I. This is a recommendation to
approve -- administratively approve Change Order No. 11
providing for a 180-day extension under Agreement No. 16-6622,
Big Corkscrew Island Regional Park, with Q. Grady Minor &
Associates, P.A., and authorize the Chairman to sign the attached
change order. This is moved at Commissioner McDaniel's
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request.
Move Item 16F3 to Item 11J. This is a recommendation to
approve the expenditure of the Tourist Development Tax
Promotion funds to support the November 2023 Doral Gold Cup
event up to $12,000, to waive any irregularities in the process for
items, including lack of written approval, pre-approval, or TDC
and Board approval, and make a finding that these expenditures
promote tourism. This is being moved at Commissioner Hall's
request.
Move Item 16F4 to Item 11K. This is a recommendation to
approve the expenditure of the Tourism Development Tax
Promotion funds to support the October 2023 Advertising World
Series Event up to $5,000, to waive any irregularities in the
process for items, including lack of written approval,
pre-approval, or TDC and Board approval, and make a finding
that these expenditures promote tourism. This is being moved at
Commissioner Hall's request.
And, finally, move Item 16F10 to Item 11L. This is a
recommendation to approve and authorize the Chairman to
execute the second extension and amendment to the sponsorship
agreement between Collier County and Spirit Promotions for the
2025 through 2029 U.S. Open Pickleball Championships and
make a finding that this item promotes tourism. This is being
moved at Commissioner Hall's request.
We have time -- a time-certain item, which is 11A, to be
heard at 2 p.m. This is a presentation of the 2023 Collier County
Community Assessment.
And, finally, as we move through the agenda, I may ask
your indulgence to bring 11C a little bit out of sequence. We
have some first responders here that are in the audience, and this
is relative to the EMS Station 74 construction. So as we move
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along, we may ask to bring that one up on the agenda a little bit.
With that, we have court reporter breaks scheduled for 10:30
and 2:50.
I'll look over to the County Attorney for any additional
changes.
MR. KLATZKOW: No additional changes. Thank you.
MS. PATTERSON: And to you, Chair, to begin additional
changes to the agenda as well as ex parte on the consent and
summary agendas.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Okay. Do I have a motion to
approve today's -- I'm sorry. Go ahead, ma'am.
MS. PATTERSON: We need each of the commissioners
for their summary -- for their ex parte or any further changes.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Okay. Commissioner Kowal.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Pulling them up. I have
no -- nothing to claim on ex parte. Sorry.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Commissioner Saunders.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Mr. Chairman, I don't
have any ex parte on the consent agenda. I do have one item I'd
like to add to the agenda. And I apologize to the Board for
bringing this up this morning, but I learned about it last night, and
I think it's important that we discuss this.
I was advised at a homeowners meeting that our buses -- our
bus drivers have the ability to change the lights. If they're
behind schedule, they can take a red light and turn it to a green
light and, apparently, that has caused multiple accidents.
So I'd like to add to the agenda at least a discussion of that
so either -- I see Trinity is getting ready to jump up. But I'd like
to have a discussion of that just to make sure that we're not
creating a problem, because I was advised last night that folks
have actually seen accidents when the lights change in the way
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they're doing that.
MS. PATTERSON: We can add that discussion,
Commissioner, either under Item 10, Board of County
Commissioners, or at the end, under staff updates, whichever you
prefer.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: It makes no difference to
me.
MS. PATTERSON: Okay.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: So staff will have
enough time to prepare, whenever you want to bring it up.
MS. PATTERSON: Absolutely.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Anything else, sir?
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: No, sir.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Okay. Commissioner
McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Good morning.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Good morning, sir.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: No changes, no ex parte.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Okay.
COMMISIONER HALL: No changes or ex parte for me
either.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Okay. And I have no changes
or ex parte either.
MS. PATTERSON: All right. If we could get a motion
for the agenda as amended, please.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: So moved.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Second.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Okay. I've got a motion by
Commissioner McDaniel, second by Commissioner Kowal. All
in favor?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
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COMMISSIONER HALL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: It passes unanimously.
SEE REVERSE SIDE
Proposed Agenda Changes
Board of County Commissioners Meeting
January 9, 2024
Move Item 16F6 to Item 11H: *** This item continued from the December 12, 2023, BCC Meeting. ***
Recommendation to establish a policy for leasing a County‐owned mobile home at the Paradise Coast Sports
Complex to law enforcement officers for greater onsite law enforcement presence, adopt a standard lease
template, and authorize the County Manager or their designee to execute such leases. (Commissioner McDaniel’s
Request)
Move Item 16F9 to Item 11I: Recommendation to approve administratively approved Change Order No. 11,
providing for a 180‐day extension under Agreement No. 16‐6622, “Big Corkscrew Island Regional Park,” with Q.
Grady Minor & Associates, P.A., and authorize the Chairman to sign the attached change order. (Project No.
80039) (Commissioner McDaniel’s Request)
Move Item 16F3 to Item 11J: Recommendation to approve the expenditure of the Tourism Development Tax
Promotion funds to support the November 2023 Doral Gold Cup event up to $12,000; to waive any irregularities
in the process for items including lack of written approval, pre‐approval or TDC and Board approval; and make a
finding that these expenditures promote tourism. (Commissioner Hall’s Request)
Move Item 16F4 to Item 11K: Recommendation to approve the expenditure of the Tourism Development Tax
Promotion funds to support the October 2023 Advertising World Series Event, up to $5,000, to waive any
irregularities in the process for items, including lack of written approval, pre‐approval or TDC and Board approval;
and make a finding that these expenditures promote tourism. (Commissioner Hall’s Request)
Move Item 16F10 to Item 11L: Recommendation to approve and authorize the Chairman to execute the
Second Extension and Amendment to the Sponsorship Agreement between Collier County and Spirit Promotions
for the 2025‐2029 U.S. Open Pickleball Championships and make a finding that this item promotes tourism.
(Commissioner Hall’s Request)
Notes:
TIME CERTAIN ITEMS:
Item 11A to be heard at 2 PM: Presentation of the 2023 Collier County Community Assessment.
2/15/2024 4:04 PM
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Item #2B
AUTHORIZING THE NEW CHAIRS FOR BOTH THE BOARD
OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THE COMMUNITY
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY TO EXECUTE ALL
DOCUMENTS APPROVED AT BOTH THIS MEETING AND
THOSE DOCUMENTS WHICH WERE PREVIOUSLY
APPROVED BUT ARE PENDING SIGNATURE.MOTION TO
APPOINT COMMISSIONER HALL AS BCC CHAIRMAN BY
COMMISSIONER KOWAL; SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
MCDANIEL – APPROVED; MOTION TO APPOINT
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS AS BCC VICE-CHAIR BY
COMMISSIONER KOWAL; SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
HALL – APPROVED
MS. PATTERSON: All right. That brings us to Item 2B.
This is a recommendation that the Board authorize the new chairs
for both the Board of County Commissioners and the Community
Redevelopment Agency to execute all documents approved at
both this meeting and those documents which were previously
approved but are pending signature. And I know we have a
number of steps that we are going to go through here to do a
changing of the Chair.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Okay.
MS. PATTERSON: So we're going to begin with you,
Chair, with your remarks about your chairmanship.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Okay. I mean, I just -- keep it
short and sweet. We all get a chance to be chairman, so it's not
like in Washington, D.C., where they argue about it for six
months, and they pick 12 different people, and then they all quit
and somebody new comes in. We have a much more
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professional process here.
So District 1, District 2, District 3, 4, 5, we all take a turn
perfectly in order. So I'll be proud to hand the gavel to my
colleague, Commissioner Hall, and it goes down the line every 12
months.
I'll just say time really flies. You know, I feel like it was
yesterday that Commissioner McDaniel was handing me the
gavel, you know, District 5 to District 1. I've been privileged to
be in the seat. You do learn -- and for Commissioner Hall's, you
know, thoughts and knowledge -- which he already knows -- you
do get a chance to do a little bit of a deeper dive with the staff to
prepare for this meeting.
So, you know, in closing, I just want to say -- I really want
to thank the staff for how much they were accessible and helped
me do deeper dives and make sure these meetings were as
professional and as informative as possible.
And then there's people behind the scenes that sort of work
every day but maybe they don't know -- you don't know their
names or -- you know, but they're just as exhausted as us at the
end of a, you know, 12-hour meeting. And that's Terri Lewis
right here, who is our court reporter and, you know, she loathes
the day that an Italian is one of the commissioners because I talk
too fast. So I'm sure the transcript, you know, it's all
discombobulated every time I speak. You know, it's every third
word.
But Troy Miller, who just does a great job with phone calls
and the Zoom calls and trying to keep all the petitions [sic]. And
sometimes, unless you're in this chair, as Commissioner Hall will
see, even just moving a few feet over, you get a different
perspective to, like, how much behind-the-scene stuff happens.
Aimee, who's on the other side of this wall, who does a great
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job with all of our different awards and, you know, people that
are asking for, you know, Business of the Month and all those
things. I mean, she's a real big behind-the-scenes person.
And then to Ms. Patterson, Mr. Rodriguez, and Mr. Finn,
you know, our senior leadership at the County Manager Office,
just, there again, thank you so much for all the time and, you
know, the phone calls and things like that to make sure that I'm
fully up to speed.
And to our senior staff in the back that are representing a
whole bunch of people that aren't here, you know, I really
appreciate all the time that you took to make sure I had
everything I needed.
And last, but certainly not least, the person I actually want to
thank the most is my executive assistant, Aixa Capizza. The five
assistants that are on the other side of this wall are really the sort
of unsung heroes. They do an awful lot. They're not
secretaries. They don't just answer phones and, you know, do
little menial things. They don't do any of that. Instead, you
know, they're on the front lines, they're getting emails from
people that aren't necessarily always happy. And I know my
personal executive assistant is -- I look at it as -- that we're both a
really tight team. And when you get this job, there are some
extra responsibilities that go with it, so both of you sort of get to
be chairman as a team.
So I hope she's in the back, you know, hearing me. But,
Aixa, thank you so much for, you know, your countless hours and
your loyalty and your dedication. And I think we did a pretty
good job over these 12 months. I'm really proud of what we did.
And also to my colleagues here, just for your
professionalism and your support. I think we elevated a few
things, maybe, you know, than in years past, but that's how it
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should be. Every year should get better. I look for
Commissioner Hall to -- you know, having sat here for a year,
he's going to bring some great improvements and ideas, and that's
what we do. We blow the dust off of things, and then the
outgoing chair is proud to see what the incoming chair does. So
I wish you, you know, all the best, and we will follow your lead.
And, having said that, it's been a great year, but you'll still
have me to kick around for a while. Thank you.
MS. PATTERSON: Thank you.
Commissioner Hall will begin his remarks regarding the
outgoing chair as well, and then to the other commissioners.
COMMISIONER HALL: Thank you, Commissioner
LoCastro, for all those words.
I learned a lot from you. I've been here a year. And I
thought you did an amazing job leading our group, and you kept
it fun. You kept it professional. I learned -- you know, I
learned I could be expressive. I've learned that I could be
personable and that -- I've also learned things like maybe in some
of these decisions the juice is not worth the squeeze.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Hey, you're not stealing my
lines now.
COMMISIONER HALL: No. No, no. I'm telling you
what I've learned.
I've learned that in some of these decisions, that it's okay to
hate it less, and I've also learned that instead of resistance, the
new term is "pushback."
But no, on a serious note, I'm proud of what you did this
year. I've sat back. I've observed. I've learned a lot. And I'm
looking forward to continuing on a good meeting. I love the
group that we have. We have a good working relationship.
And we disagree well, and we agree well.
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And so with that, I'm looking forward to getting down to
business.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Thank you, sir.
MS. PATTERSON: The other -- Commissioner McDaniel,
Commissioner Saunders, Commissioner Kowal?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: We lit up and forgot that
it was his turn first. So I just wanted to say thank you, you did a
good job, and looking forward to Commissioner Hall as well.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Thank you, sir.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And echo all your thanks
to our senior staff. There's a whole bunch of people that are
making these things happen, and I echo your thanks as well.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Thank you, sir.
COMMISIONER HALL: Commissioner Saunders.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Thank you,
Mr. Chairman.
Boy, this day couldn't come soon enough.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Wait. Stick to the script that I
wrote for you, remember? He's amazing, wonderful, handsome.
You know, come on. Stick to it.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I'm back on script.
Seriously, I really have enjoyed this year. Actually, I've
enjoyed this year more than I think any other year that I've been
on the Board, and a lot of that is because of your leadership.
Commissioner Hall said you've made it fun. Well, you
have. Little changes mean a lot. The Pledge of Allegiance by
Commissioner Hall's father this morning, I think, means a whole
lot more than just one of us standing up and doing the Pledge,
and I want to thank you for your service and for being here this
morning.
And so I think you created a great foundation in terms of
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some changes, some positive changes. I'm sure there will be
others, but I want to thank you for being aggressive and making
those changes.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Thank you, sir.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: They meant a lot. So
thank you for your service.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: You, sir.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Well, I definitely enjoyed
this. And being my first exposure to -- you know, this is my first
year and, of course, Commissioner Hall's first year also, and you
being our chairman, you know, it felt easy and painless. You
know, you conducted your way. And I knew you before I even
became a commissioner, and I knew your -- you know, your
stellar career in the Air Force achieving a rank of full-bird
Colonel which is -- you know, that's a feat in itself. You know, I
mean, that takes a lot of resilience and hard work. And I think it
showed, the way you ran some of these meetings this year.
We probably broke a few records this year on the length of
meetings, going into the wee hours of the morning, and -- but it
stayed professional, and I think that showed through your ability
to, you know, handle situations and keep us guided and keep, of
course, the people on task in, you know, what we're trying to
achieve here.
So it's been a pleasure, and I'm pretty sure that we're going
to have a lot of the same here over the next year.
And with that, I would like to make a motion to have
Commissioner Hall as our incoming chairman.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I'll second that.
COMMISIONER HALL: I'll second that.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I seconded it.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: So --
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CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: I've got a motion from
Commissioner Kowal and a second from Commissioner
McDaniel. All in favor of Commissioner Hall moving six feet to
the left, say aye.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HALL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Mrs. Hall, would you -- any
opposition or anything? Is there anything --
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Can I make a second
motion?
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: That Commissioner
Saunders be Vice Chair.
COMMISIONER HALL: Second.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Okay. I've got a motion for
Commissioner Saunders as vice chair, second by Commissioner
Hall. All in favor?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HALL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Okay. Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Okay. So both motions pass
unanimously. Okay.
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MS. PATTERSON: Thank you. At this time I'm going to
invite the commissioners to come down to the floor for pictures
and the passing of the gavel.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: We'll trade the plaque for the
gavel, how about, and then we'll do a couple of pose things.
Here we go. Let me put this back down.
COMMISIONER HALL: This thing looks worn out.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I was going to say, my
plaque was better than yours.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: You had a much better plaque.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Okay. Let's get to work.
CHAIRMAN LoCASTRO: Okay. Thank you, all.
(Applause.)
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Commissioner Hall said
we will now take a 45-minute break. I don't know what he's
doing. I don't know what he's doing. Thank you, sir.
CHAIRMAN HALL: All right. County Manager.
MS. PATTERSON: Welcome, Chair. If you have any
opening remarks before we move on to Item 2C.
CHAIRMAN HALL: No. The only thing that goes to my
mind is Bachman-Turner Overdrive, Taking Care of Business.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: BTO.
Item #2C
BOARD APPOINT ITS MEMBERS TO THE COMMUNITY
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT
COUNCIL, THE COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT BOARD, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THE PUBLIC SAFETY
COORDINATING COUNCIL, AND THE SOUTHWEST
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FLORIDA REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL. MOTION TO
REAPPOINT COMMISSIONER KOWAL AND COMMISSIONER
MCDANIEL TO THE CRA BY COMMISSIONER HALL;
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS - APPROVED;
MOTION TO APPOINT COMMISSIONER LOCASTRO TO THE
TDC BY COMMISSIONER KOWAL; SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL – APPROVED; MOTION TO
REAPPOINT COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS TO THE CED BY
COMMISSIONER LOCASTRO; SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER KOWAL - APPROVED; MOTION TO
REAPPOINT COMMISSIONER KOWAL TO THE PSCC BY
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL; SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER LOCASTRO – APPROVED; MOTION TO
REAPPOINT COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL TO THE SWFRPC
BY COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS; SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER LOCASTRO – APPROVED; MOTION TO
REAPPOINT COMMISSIONER HALL TO THE AHAC BY
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS; SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL – APPROVED; MOTION TO
REAPPOINT COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL TO THE 14
COUNTY SUMMIT BY COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS;
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LOCASTRO – APPROVED
MS. PATTERSON: All right. Well, that moves us to
Item 2C. This is a recommendation that the Board appoint its
members to the Community Redevelopment Agency, the Tourist
Development Council, the Community and Economic
Development Board, the Affordable Housing Advisory
Committee, the Public Safety Coordinating Council, and the
Southwest Florida Regional Planning Council.
And so, at your pleasure, we'll take these one at a time,
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starting with the Community Redevelopment Agency where we
have cochairs for the CRA in Bayshore/Gateway as well as
Immokalee, currently Commissioner Kowal and Commissioner
McDaniel.
CHAIRMAN HALL: So, Commissioner McDaniel, do you
have interest in staying?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: With the RPC --
CHAIRMAN HALL: Yes.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: -- or the CRA?
MS. PATTERSON: CRA.
CHAIRMAN HALL: No, the CRA. We're in the CRA.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Sorry. Yeah, absolutely.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner Kowal?
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Yeah. Absolutely, I'd like
to remain.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Okay, great. Do we need a motion
on that?
MS. PATTERSON: We need a motion, yes.
CHAIRMAN HALL: So can I get a motion for --
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I'll motion -- or I'll
second that motion.
CHAIRMAN HALL: All right. We've got a motion to
keep Commissioner Kowal on the CRA and as well as
Commissioner McDaniel. We have a second.
All in favor?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: All right. That passes.
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MS. PATTERSON: All right. Next up is the Tourist
Development Council. As you know, we have a set process for
this one, so the outgoing chair becomes now a member of the
Tourist Development Council. So Commissioner LoCastro will
replace Commissioner McDaniel. We still would need a motion
and a second and a vote on this.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: So moved.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: So moved.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Second.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Or seconded or thirded.
CHAIRMAN HALL: All right. Motion and second. All
in favor?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
MS. PATTERSON: All right. Next up, Community and
Economic Development Board. This one is currently
Commissioner Saunders' assignment.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: And, Mr. Chairman, I
have no problem continuing on that unless someone else wants
to.
CHAIRMAN HALL: I think you win. So --
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Make a motion that
Commissioner Saunders continue.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Second.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Second.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Second.
CHAIRMAN HALL: All in favor?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
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COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: That passes. Congratulations,
Commissioner Saunders.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Thank you. I appreciate
that.
MS. PATTERSON: The Public Safety Coordinating
Council. Currently the seat is held by Commissioner Kowal.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Commissioner Kowal,
do you want to stay on that?
CHAIRMAN HALL: Do you wish to remain?
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: I wouldn't mind remaining
on that one.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Great. So motion to approve
Commissioner Kowal staying on the Public Safety committee.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: So moved.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: So moved.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Second?
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Second.
CHAIRMAN HALL: All in favor?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
MS. PATTERSON: All right. And, finally, the Southwest
Florida Regional Planning Council. Currently seated,
Commissioner McDaniel.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Good to go?
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COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I'd like one more shot at
it.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: I'll just say this is the guy
you want on the committee. I've sort of backed him up here and
there, and there's nobody better to represent us.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: As dysfunctional as that
organization is --
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Absolutely.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: -- I'd like one more shot
at it.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Is that the one your truck got
stolen at?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: No. That was the
MPOAC.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I was there for that.
That was an exciting --
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yeah. Burt left me in
Orlando.
CHAIRMAN HALL: I didn't get near as much for that
truck as I was hoping for.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: That's good.
CHAIRMAN HALL: So motion to approve --
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: So moved.
CHAIRMAN HALL: I've got a motion by Commissioner
Saunders.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Second.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Second.
CHAIRMAN HALL: All in favor?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
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COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
MS. PATTERSON: And I did miss one, the Affordable
Housing Advisory Committee, and currently seated is
Commissioner Hall.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Yeah. It took me a year for them to
get to like me, so I'd like to stay at least for one other year.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I'll move to --
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I'll second that.
CHAIRMAN HALL: We have a motion and a second.
All in favor?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
MS. PATTERSON: Thank you, Commissioners.
Just as a note, in the future agendas, we will talk about the
Canvassing Board as well as the Value Adjustment Board, but
not now. Those are subsequent agenda items that will come
forward from the Clerk, and we'll deal with the Canvassing Board
as we move forward as well. And also the 14-county summit
relative to stormwater, Commissioner McDaniel is currently our
assigned member for that, and we can talk about that at a point in
the future as well.
That brings us to Item 2D, which is approval of the meeting
minutes from the October 24th, 2023, BCC meeting.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Do you want to just go
ahead and take care of that 14-county summit thing now? I
mean, because I really love that organization. It's a trip to
Okeechobee once a quarter or so. But I'm -- with all of the
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efforts that we have going on with beach renourishment,
stormwater, dredging, so on and so forth, I'd really like to just
stay there, if I could. Is that okay?
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I'll make that motion.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Because I think I have a
meeting this month. I don't want to --
MS. PATTERSON: I don't see anybody arm wrestling you
for it.
CHAIRMAN HALL: No. We have a motion by
Commissioner Saunders.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Second.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Second by Commissioner LoCastro.
All in favor?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Forgive me for
interrupting.
MS. PATTERSON: No worries.
Item #2D
OCTOBER 24, 2023, BCC MINUTES - MOTION TO APPROVE
BY COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS; SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER LOCASTRO – APPROVED
Item #2E
DECEMBER 12, 2023, BCC MINUTES - MOTION TO
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APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS; SECONDED
BY COMMISSIONER LOCASTRO – APPROVED
Back to October 24, 2023, Board BCC minutes. I need a
motion and a second.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Mr. Chairman, I'll move
to approve the October 24 minutes and the December 12 minutes.
MS. PATTERSON: Thank you, sir.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Second.
CHAIRMAN HALL: We have a motion and a second to
approve both of the minutes. All in favor?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: It passes.
Item #4A
PROCLAMATION DESIGNATING JANUARY 15, 2024, AS A
DAY TO REMEMBER AND CELEBRATE REV. DR. MARTIN
LUTHER KING JR.'S DREAM. ACCEPTED BY VINCENT
KEEYS, PRESIDENT OF THE NAACP, AND DIANN KEEYS,
PARADE CHAIR, AND OTHER DISTINGUISHED GUESTS. –
MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL;
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LOCASTRO - ADOPTED
MS. PATTERSON: All right. That moves us to Item 4,
proclamations.
Item 4A is a proclamation designating January 15th, 2024,
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as a Day to Remember and Celebrate Reverend Dr. Martin
Luther King's dream. To be accepted by Vincent Keeys,
president of the NAACP, and Diana Keeys, parade chair, and
other distinguished guests.
Congratulations and welcome.
(Applause.)
MR. KEEYS: Good morning, Mr. Chair. Congratulations
to you, Mr. Hall. And board members, staff, and counsel, I want
to thank you this morning for this great proclamation.
And we want to personally invite the county commissioners
to the 27th annual Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., parade
and celebration which will take place on Monday, January the
15th, 2024. It will be in downtown Naples. It starts off at 11
o'clock on the corner of Broad and Third, and the celebration will
take place in Cambier Park.
So I'd like to personally invite every one of you to lead out
the parade with all the city dignitaries and police department and
fire department. So, please, don't disappoint. We expect to see
you there. Thank you so very much.
(Applause.)
Item #4B
PROCLAMATION DESIGNATING JANUARY 2024 AS HUMAN
TRAFFICKING AWARENESS MONTH IN COLLIER COUNTY.
ACCEPTED BY LINDA OBERHAUS, CHIEF
EXECUTIVE OFFICER, THE SHELTER FOR ABUSED WOMEN
& CHILDREN. - MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER
MCDANIEL; SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LOCASTRO –
ADOPTED
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MS. PATTERSON: Item 4B is a proclamation designating
January 2024 as Human Trafficking Awareness Month in Collier
County. To be accepted by Linda Oberhaus, chief executive
officer, the Shelter for Abused Women and Children.
Thank you.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Do you want to say a word?
MS. OBERHAUS: Sure.
Okay. Well, good morning. I want to thank you,
Commissioner Hall, and the rest the county commissioners for
acknowledging National Human Trafficking Awareness Month
this January.
Human trafficking, as you know, is a crime that occurs
across the country. And according to the National Human
Trafficking Hotline, Florida ranks third in the nation for the
highest number of calls to the Human Trafficking Hotline.
Additionally, Naples and Fort Myers ranks third for the highest
number of cases of human trafficking in Florida.
So here's what's happening locally. So we have a number
of things happening. The shelter is partnering with the school
district to educate our children to prevent them from becoming a
statistic, and we're partnering with the Collier County Sheriff's
Office and our State Attorney's Office on a holistic approach to
end sex trafficking locally. This approach is called the ISP
model. It's Identify, Support, and Prosecute. It involves the
Sheriff's Office identifying both victims and traffickers, the
Sheriff supporting the victims that are identified, and the State
Attorney's Office prosecuting both buyers and sellers of sex
trafficking victims in our community.
It is only through both awareness and action that we'll be
successful in keeping all members of our community safe. So
thank you, again, for helping to raise awareness about the issue of
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human trafficking right here in Collier County. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Thank you.
(Applause.)
Item #4C
PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF
NAPLES BOTANICAL GARDEN AND CELEBRATING THE
EVENSTAD HORTICULTURE CAMPUS FOR ITS FAR-
REACHING IMPACT ON THE GARDEN, SOUTHWEST
FLORIDA, AND BEYOND. ACCEPTED BY BRITT
PATTERSON-WEBER, VICE PRESIDENT OF EDUCATION &
INTERPRETATION. - MOTION TO APPROVE BY
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL; SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER LOCASTRO - ADOPTED
MS. PATTERSON: Item 4C is a proclamation recognizing
the contributions of the Naples Botanical Garden and celebrating
the Evenstad Horticulture Campus for its far-reaching impact on
the Garden, Southwest Florida, and beyond. To be accepted by
Britt Patterson-Weber, vice president of education and
interpretation. Congratulations.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Do you want to bring
them up?
MS. PATTERSON-WEBER: There's an army in the back.
Do you all want to come up real quick, and then I'll say a
word.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: That's the army that
makes it happen.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Right now people are
stealing everything at the Botanical Garden because there's no
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employees there.
(Applause.)
MS. PATTERSON-WEBER: We'll have to keep the
gardening questions off the record.
Commissioners, on behalf of the Botanical Garden team, I
want to extend our gratitude for acknowledging the contributions
of Naples Botanical Garden as well as celebrating the opening of
the Evenstad Horticulture Campus with us.
Just as a seedling needs to be nurtured and supported to
reach its full potential, so, too, do organizations like our own.
And thank you, Collier County, for doing just that and sharing
this proclamation with the community today. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN HALL: You're welcome.
(Applause.)
Item #5A
ARTIST OF THE MONTH – WENDY WAGNER CAMPBELL
AND NORA BEYRENT – NAPLES ART DISTRICT
MS. PATTERSON: If we could direct your attention to the
back of room, Item 5A is our Artist of the Month. For this
month we welcome Wendy Wagner Campbell and Nora Beyrent
from the Naples Art District whose works displayed along the
back wall were inspired by the internationally recognized
Mexican artist Frida Kahlo.
(Applause.)
MS. PATTERSON: And, Commissioners -- thank you.
Mr. Rodriguez just reminded me, if we could get a motion to
approve the proclamations, please.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Motion --
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COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: So moved.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Second.
CHAIRMAN HALL: We have a motion and a second to
approve the proclamations. All in favor?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: All opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN HALL: None.
Item #7
PUBLIC COMMENTS ON GENERAL TOPICS NOT ON THE
CURRENT OR FUTURE AGENDA
MS. PATTERSON: Thank you very much. That brings us
to Item 7, public comments on general topics not on the current
or future agenda.
MR. MILLER: We have six registered speakers this
morning. Your first speaker is Robert Thurston, and he will be
followed by Kathy Taylor.
MR. THURSTON: Good morning. Hello. My name is
Robert Thurston.
Today marks my seventh appearance before the Collier
County Board of Commissioners on Collier TV, and I'm turning
again to the topic of the deep state and the Targeted Individual
Program. You can find on the Internet, through polling, if you
believe such things, that a majority of the U.S. believe,
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essentially, in the deep state, even if they struggle with defining
what the deep state is.
In 2018, the magazine Politico said a majority of the U.S.
people believe a group of unelected government and military
officials secretly manipulate national policy. I'm here to tell you
this is true, and there's more.
When I spoke here last time on December 12th, 2023,
Commissioner Hall asked me what I hope to accomplish now and
how the Board could help. I said I'm trying to get help creating a
state law that would criminalize participation by anyone in the
already illegal Targeted Individual Program. If you haven't
experienced the Targeted Individual Program firsthand, it's clear
it takes a toll on many people.
I also said in the last meeting I hope to help other people
struggling with the Targeted Individual Program. How? I think
other targeted individuals can use those meetings as a blueprint.
Taking their case directly to the public on community TV is
probably their best chance of ending their targeting. I hope what
I've done here can give other targeted individuals some ideas
about how to document and organize their presentation so they
can state their cases effectively and be heard.
Another goal I have here is to tell the rest of the story. The
Naples community needs to know what happened to me is
possible when people working in government and/or the deep
state band together to defraud your average citizen. There are
other people involved here. I need to give examples of what
they did to strengthen my case for creating Collier's law. And
for me, these people named in the online documents are still
harassing me, not for committing any crimes, but for coming
forward and telling the public all the terrible things they did.
The Targeted Individual Program is for life. I could go
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through this harassment the rest of my life or deal with it here
and now. I know I have right on my side, and that should be
enough at some future point.
The Targeted Individual Program is, from the beginning,
both wrong and illegal, and one can't get around these
inescapable facts. Once you've come down on the side of
torture, I think you've lost your case.
You've had some time to evaluate my statements. I've been
coming here for six months now. I feel I've effectively proven
that Sheriff Kevin Rambosk is in lockstep with the Targeted
Individual Program. In 2021, Rambosk sent a deputy to my
home. That deputy said he had me on two separate videos
committing felonies against a neighbor. In reality, Rambosk
didn't have any videos of me committing any crimes.
Remember, Rambosk, by this time in 2021, had been directing
the illegal Targeted Individual Program against me since 2010.
Since 2010. It was --
CHAIRMAN HALL: Mr. Thurston, if you could just wrap
it up.
MR. THURSTON: Okay. Thank you, sir. Very quickly,
since 2010, it was total entrapment. Rambosk tried to trade my
freedoms for some money in his pocket.
During the time Rambosk's deputy was falsely accusing me,
I was saying to him, this is all a setup as part of the Targeted
Individual Program. The deputy wore a body cam. I tried to
get that video where I'm telling the deputy about the Targeted
Individual Program.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Mr. Thurston, excuse me. Your
time is up. Thank you so much.
MR. THURSTON: Yes, sir. Okay. Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Okay. Thank you. Your next speaker is
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Kathy Taylor. She'll be followed by Richard Schroeder.
MS. TAYLOR: Good morning, gentlemen.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Hi, Ms. Taylor.
MS. TAYLOR: Nice to meet you.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Nice to meet you.
MS. TAYLOR: Congratulations.
If you would hand those to your colleagues, please.
Good morning, Commissioners, and thank you for allowing
me to speak today. My name is Kathy Taylor, and my husband,
John, and I have lived in Collier County since 1998 and as
full-time residents since 2005.
We have been dealing with Veterans Community Park since
2005 regarding noise pollution from the Rover Run Dog Park and
light pollution from the ball fields lighting system.
Some minimal changes have been made at Rover Run, but
no consideration was given to the fact that Rover Run should
never have been located so near a residential area.
But it seems like entertaining dogs, most of them being
nonresidents, takes precedence over a peaceful environment
from -- for the good taxpaying Collier County residents at
Stonebridge Country Club.
Today, though, we are representing the 100 to 150
Stonebridge residents who directly and negatively are impacted
by the antiquated lighting system at Veterans Park.
Since 2005, three hurricanes have taken down
approximately 25 trees on the Veterans Park side of the boundary
line between the park and Stonebridge. These trees definitively
helped mitigate the light pollution, and yet none have been
replaced.
In 2015, we were given information by Parks and Recreation
that new lighting systems and new technology for lighting ball
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fields was available, lighting that shines directly down on the ball
field rather than out into the neighboring area.
At that time, 2015, Collier County also published their
lighting standards and guidelines which state: Lighting designs
should minimize light trespass and pollution and impact on
neighboring properties and natural habitats while ensuring safety,
security, utility, productivity, commerce, livability, and
enjoyment. "Should minimize" are the key words in those
guidelines.
As you can see from the photos that I gave you, the Veterans
Park lights are totally noncompliant and in violation of these
standards. This has been the case for seven years. We were
told in 2016 that new lighting technology was available. Our
general manager, Tim Jones, was told by Parks and Recreation
that the new lighting would be installed at Veterans Park by the
end of 2022. Obviously that has not happened.
Ms. Edwards, at Park and Rec, has been very attentive to
this issue and, at our request, has reduced the time parameters for
the lighting on the ball fields and field house, which I'm sure is a
cost-saving initiative for the county. Prior to Ms. Edwards'
involvement, the fields remained lit hours after there was no
activity on the fields -- I'm sorry.
So we are here today to urge the Board to give the highest
priority to the replacement of the lights at Veterans Park in this
year's budget. It is unconscionable to think that this
noncompliant lighting system still exists seven years after your
standards were established and, at the same time, continue to add
new parks and amenities to other parks.
Again, 1,400 residents at Stonebridge are counting on you to
rectify this situation as soon as possible. Thank you so much for
listening to our request.
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CHAIRMAN HALL: Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is --
CHAIRMAN HALL: Ms. Taylor, have you had the
pleasure yet to meet Ms. Williams in the back? If you haven't, I
encourage you to. Thank you.
MS. TAYLOR: I will. Thank you so much,
Commissioner.
MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is Richard Schroeder.
He'll be followed by Lisa Stedman.
DR. SCHROEDER: Good morning, Commissioners.
Dr. Richard Schroeder. And I want to talk a little bit about the
mRNA technology that's in the COVID-19 vaccines and that they
are grooming us to accept as part of the annual flu vaccines.
By now we've -- we know how the chronically deranged
elements within our federal government and associated world
agencies used declared public health emergency to sweep away
our civil rights and subject us to the whims of amoral medical
technocrats.
Every planning operation they staged in preparation for the
SARS-CoV-2 rollout, all the way to Dark Winter through Atlanta
storm event 2'01, and many more had the same end goal of
imposing tyranny and mass vaccination.
MRNA technology was part of that plot and goes back
farther than we might expect. According to a 2016 MIT
biotechnology article, U.S. government and biotechnology
experts viewed the use of gene editing, mRNA nanoparticle
technologies as weapons of mass destruction and a threat to
national security, as the genome is the very essence of life.
Using this technology to edit a species' genome could result
in the extermination of that species, including human beings, they
said. We need to get these self-spreading poisons out of our
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lives and off our shelves.
It's up to us in our local communities to fend for ourselves.
We might be getting a little help from the state at this point. On
January 3rd, Florida Surgeon General, Dr. Joseph Ladapo, issued
a press statement calling for a halt in the use of mRNA injections
in human beings due to their ability to modify the human
genome.
Dr. Ladapo's guidance letter began by citing the FDA's own
documents from 2007, which clearly advise that DNA
contamination can cause cells to be genetically modified. In one
recent interview, Ladapo explained how Pfizer's and FDA's lack
of proper animal and human testing is beyond reckless, as the
mRNA nanoparticle technologies have the capability of causing
cancer as well as making transgenerational changes to the human
species, which could result in all sorts of difficulties, of course.
When asked in an interview -- in another interview what his
recent letter of guidance technically means for the State of
Florida, Dr. Ladapo responded, and I quote: Our county health
department should not be offering them, referring to the mRNA
COVID-19 vaccines. It is morally very wrong, whether it is our
Health Department, pharmacies, or hospitals, to be putting these
into other human beings, end quote, from Dr. Ladapo.
I do hope the hospitals, health departments, and pharmacies
are listening, and thank you, all, for listening.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Thank you, Dr. Schroeder.
MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is Lisa Stedman. She'll
be followed by Jeff Headrick.
MS. STEDMAN: Good morning, Commissioners. Lisa
Stedman, founder of Collier Citizens Against Sex Trafficking.
In 2023, CCSO identified 47 child victims. These victims
were either depicted in child sexual use materials, CSAM, or
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victims of contact offenses which were proactively discovered by
investigations done by the Collier County Sheriff's Office.
Victims who self-reported, cases where a parent discovered the
victimization, were not included in that count.
In this graphic that you're looking at up on the screens, you
are looking at the arrests of the newly formed Southwest Florida
Intercept Task Force. They arrested 25 men and rescued 37
children regionally, the youngest victim being two years old,
right here in Collier County. She was being offered for sex on a
dating app called Meet Me.
The Intercept Task Force is providing all resources required
to conduct investigations, plan and run operations, identify and
rescue victims, educate parents and youth, process and analyze
data and, ultimately, serve its community.
Speaking of educating parents and youth, CCAST is proud
to host a Trafficking Exposed event on Saturday, February 10th,
at Destiny Church from 9 to 4. The experts in the trenches will
be educating our community on human trafficking and child
exploitation.
You will learn that day from CCSO Sheriff Rambosk;
Lieutenant Wade Williams of Intercept Task Force; State
Attorney's Office 20th Judicial District Chief of Special Victims
Unit Francine Donnorummo; Homeland Security Investigations
Resident Agent John Yancey; Sonya Ryan of the Carly
Foundation; Katie Yaryan, director of Operation Light Shine; and
our very own Collier County Commissioner Dan Kowal.
I am requesting help from all of you here today to get this
critically important and informative event to all members of our
community and especially to parents. I've brought flyers for the
commissioners and hope you will share this information with
your constituents. For more event information, please visit
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ccastfl.com. Again, that is ccastfl.com. Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is Jeff Headrick. He'll
be followed by Sandra Beach.
MR. HEADRICK: Good morning. Thank you,
Mr. Chairman, Commission.
I speak to you today -- first of all, my name is Jeff Headrick.
I'm from Blunt County, Tennessee, a few hours away.
I'm here this morning to speak about a piece of property,
that's 660 Palm Avenue. Commissioner LoCastro, I know that's
your district, sir.
I'm here to represent the Lambert family who has had this
piece of property -- my father-in-law's had for several years. My
mother-in-law has paid the taxes every year in good faith.
Beautiful area. Your parks and rec facility, everything you guys
do that I've seen is first class.
Thank you for your service. I have the pleasure of working
with two colonels. I don't say they work for me; I work with
them. So -- I know that cloth and I respect that, so thank you,
sir.
Once again, I guess I'm here hat in hand to see what can be
done. Any concessions that can be done, any thoughts, dialogue
after this meeting to go further. Quite frankly, out of
transparency, this is what I do daily in Blunt County. So I get it.
Dirty lots, no fun. Absolutely no fun.
And in -- I work daily to mitigate these problems at the
lowest level of -- I know you all don't want this to deal with. We
as a family don't. And I struggle that some of the heirs weren't
completely notified. So I think it's hard to penalize an heir that
doesn't know.
Once again, I know this is not a Q&A. That's not how this
works, but if I could have further dialogue after this, I'd
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appreciate it, to help mitigate this, so -- you know, my
mother-in-law's 88. So I'm here to try to make it right if any
way possible.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Sir --
MR. HEADRICK: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: -- contact me directly.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Go ahead, Commissioner Saunders.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: It even has my cell phone
number on there.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Mr. Chairman, I was
wondering if you could give him another minute. I don't really
have an understanding what the issue is that brought you here. If
you could focus on that, then we can direct you to a staff person,
perhaps, but unless I missed something.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: He's got it.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: I think it's just in
violation.
MR. HEADRICK: It's --
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Code Enforcement
Board issue?
MR. HEADRICK: Yes, sir. It's debris. It's unsightly. It
needs to be cleaned up, but --
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: The gentleman coming
down here, Jamie French --
MR. HEADRICK: Okay. I've been working --
CHAIRMAN HALL: And Mr. Tom.
MR. HEADRICK: -- with Thomas here. And oh, by the
way, the last two weeks, since I've known about this and I
worked with this gentleman, first class. So -- and I recognize
people that's top shelf in these departments, and he's one of them.
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But it absolutely needs to be cleaned up, will be cleaned up.
The tenant or person there will leave under my mother-in-law's
direction, and we'll mitigate this and make it right because it's
not -- it's not the legacy of my father-in-law, so...
CHAIRMAN HALL: I guess I have a question. Was this
the item that we waived a bunch of those fees and -- that was not
the same one?
MS. PATTERSON: No, sir.
MR. IANDIMARINO: For the record, Tom Iandimarino,
Code Enforcement director.
This is the item that we -- that the -- Commissioners, you-all
foreclosed upon on a consent agenda a couple of sessions ago.
So this is a foreclosing property that the county's foreclosing
upon. Yeah, the paperwork's been filed with the court. We are
in the process of doing everything through the newspapers to
announce everything, and the process is ongoing at this point in
time.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Gotcha. Well, I trust that the
dialogue there will work out for you.
MR. IANDIMARINO: We have been -- we have talked a
few times. We met this morning for the first time. He does
understand that there is a lot of work that needs to be done and
that the process is in place.
MR. HEADRICK: Mr. Chair, could I add something to
that? In a previous life before giving -- eight years ago, of being
the highway superintendent, this is what I did for 30-plus years
on a state and federal level of building roads, utilities, but we also
did demolition. So having the knowledge of how to make this
work, how to mitigate this, and get it out of your hair, out of ours,
and be respectable, we have the means to do that. To spend
thousands of dollars in fines, my mother-in-law, quite frankly,
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doesn't have it. But if we could make this happen to help both
parties, that's what I'm here to tell you I want to do. And you
could look, I have the past and history of doing it. So I know
talk's cheap, you know. We try to -- we try to walk it, not talk it.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner Saunders.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Thank you. Perhaps we
could have staff delay the taking of the property and give this
gentleman some time to clean that up. If he does what he says
he's going to do, give him a reasonable period of time to do it.
And if he doesn't do it, then proceed with the foreclosure on the
property and --
MR. IANDIMARINO: Again, Commissioner, Tom
Iandimarino, Code Enforcement director.
The paperwork's already been filed with the Circuit Court at
this point in time. Any delays or any extensions may have to go
through the Circuit Court to ask -- he can ask the attorneys -- he
could have an attorney go to the Circuit Court and ask for an
extension.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: It's our case, though.
MR. IANDIMARINO: It is our case, but we've already
filed it. We'd have to talk to the attorney's office.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Yeah, that's a County
Attorney question, but I'm sure we can delay that for a bit.
That's a question. I hate to see, you know --
MR. KLATZKOW: Look, one of the things I dislike the
most is foreclosing on other people's properties, so if we can fix
this, we'll fix this.
MR. HEADRICK: Great, thanks.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Thank you, sir.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Thank you.
MR. HEADRICK: Thank you.
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MR. MILLER: Your final registered public speaker for
public comment is Sandra Beach.
MS. BEACH: Good morning, Commissioners. Thank you
for hearing me. I'm Sandra Beach. I live on 7th Avenue
Northwest. You -- probably a familiar tune to hear that.
We request that you don't rezone our neighborhood for the
Mason Classical Academy. We've been homeowners, full-time
residents since 1974 in this area.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Ms. Beach, can we pause for a
second. Isn't this going to be on a future agenda?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: No.
MS. BEACH: We just want to put as many requests in as
we can, not for the --
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner Saunders.
MS. BEACH: -- to not rezone our area.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Mr. Chairman, I'm a bit
familiar with this. I met with a bunch of neighbors on Sunday.
And, no, this does not come to the county commission. There is
no zoning issue.
MS. BEACH: That's what I was told. So we're getting a
lot of runaround of who, where, what, and when.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Well, the County
Attorney could probably opine on this, but we don't issue
building permits, we don't do inspections, we don't do the zoning.
I'm not so sure we do anything because the Mason Classical
Academy is a public school. So I don't know what authority we
have.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: By right.
MR. KLATZKOW: The way --
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner Saunders.
MR. KLATZKOW: -- charter schools work is that by
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statute we treat them to the equivalence of what we do with the
school board. We have an interlocal with the school board. We
require the charter schools follow that interlocal, but our ability
to issue permits or anything else with respect to a school does not
exist.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: That's why I wanted to
mention that. This commission is not trying to stonewall you in
any way or misinform you. It's just -- I found out about this just
a few weeks ago myself.
MS. BEACH: I know. It ruined our holidays. Thank
you.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Yeah. So I don't know
that there's anything we can do.
MS. BEACH: We feel we're being sidelined. We feel that
we're being misdirected. Nobody's listening, that she's -- Mason
Classical Academy is able to just come in and do whatever they
want and ruin our neighborhood. I mean, we have a very quiet,
beautiful block that I've live on for 28 years, and they want to
build this enormous monstrosity right next door.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Perhaps if you wouldn't
mind, if you could -- my assistant, Sue Filson, she's probably
listening to this. If you'll give us your name and phone
number -- or email, then I'll get back with you and let you know
what, if anything, we can do, but --
MS. BEACH: That would be great.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: -- there's not much.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner McDaniel, do you
have a comment?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yeah, not at this time.
We're going to have a discussion about this at some future point,
and -- but not at this time.
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I just wanted to reiterate the fact that this is a by-right
action. This is a -- this is a circumstance that's within our
existing Growth Management Plan and zoning code, and schools
are allowed in the Estates. I mentioned it when we approved the
Ascend project which had a charter school sitting there ready to
take that piece of property for the same use.
And so it's a hole in the doughnut that we have within our
GMP and LDC, but Commissioner Saunders will grab onto it
and --
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Well, I'm not sure
that -- I apologize for interrupting, but just -- I think that we have
a state statute that really controls this. I'm not so sure that it's the
GMP. If it is, we can fix that for the future.
MR. KLATZKOW: It's a state statute. The statute
requires that you treat charter schools exactly the same as we
treat public schools.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And it is within our -- it
is a by-right issue within Golden Gate Estates.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: So we could change the
Growth Management Plan; that wouldn't affect this.
MR. KLATZKOW: It's -- at this point in time, no.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Not right now. That
goes back into the SB250, not till October of '24. We're not
allowed to make any adjustments. I've already talked to our
senior staff about that.
MR. KLATZKOW: That's not an SB -- that's not -- that's
not the issue. The issue is you've got the vested right to do it
now, and it's too late to change the rules on them. If we want to,
in the future, start thinking about this --
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: That's what I'm talking
about. This one we can't do anything with. But in the future --
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COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I was told --
MR. KLATZKOW: We can look at it.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I'm sorry for interrupting.
I was interrupted. But I was told by senior staff that we can't do
anything until at least October of '24 with regard to --
MR. KLATZKOW: Well, senior staff is -- I disagree with
senior staff, and I am telling you as the County Attorney SB250
has nothing to do with this.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Fair enough. So we'll
take care of it.
MS. BEACH: My quick question is that, you know, we
had eminent domain on the back of that property for about
30 feet. And when they bought that 30 feet to build Vanderbilt
Road, we were told at that time there will be no back
access -- driveways along that strip. And we said, okay. How
are they allowing her to come in and do that? The school's full.
She's looking for a relocation. There's other places. We just are
requesting your help --
CHAIRMAN HALL: There again --
MS. BEACH: -- to save our neighborhood.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Ms. Beach, thank you. If you'll
reach out to Ms. Filson, she can get you --
MS. BEACH: And who is that?
MS. PATTERSON: Commissioner Saunders' aide.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: If you'll go around to the
front desk where the commission offices are --
MS. BEACH: Thank you for your time.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: -- and ask for Sue Filson,
give her your information.
MR. MILLER: That was all public speakers for Item 7.
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Item #11C
AWARDING CONSTRUCTION INVITATION TO BID (“ITB”)
NO. 23-8105, “COLLIER COUNTY FIRE AND EMS STATION
#74,” TO RYCON CONSTRUCTION, INC., IN THE AMOUNT OF
$9,464,456.00, AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE
ATTACHED AGREEMENT, AND APPROVE THE
NECESSARY BUDGET AMENDMENTS. (TONY BARONE,
PRINCIPAL PROJECT MANAGER, FACILITIES
MANAGEMENT) (DISTRICT 5) - MOTION TO APPROVE BY
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL; SECONDED
BY COMMISSIONER LOCASTRO - APPROVED
MS. PATTERSON: COMMISSIONERS, WITH YOUR
INDULGENCE, we're going to move into the County Manager's
Items 11. If we can go ahead and take Item 11C. This is
relative to Station 74. It's a recommendation to award
Construction Invitation to Bid No. 23-8105, Collier County Fire
and EMS Station 74, to Rycon Construction, Inc., in the amount
of $9,464,456, authorize the Chairman to sign the attached
agreement, and approve the necessary budget amendments.
Mr. Tony Barone is here to make a brief presentation at your
pleasure. We also have representation here both from Greater
Naples Fire District as well as EMS.
MR. BARONE: Good morning, Commissioners. For the
record, Tony Barone, principal project manager with our Facility
Management Division.
We bring to you today again a recommendation to award our
construction contract for the Collier County Fire and EMS
Station 74 in Golden Gate Estates. This will be to Rycon
Construction, Incorporated in the amount of $9,464,456, and
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authorize the Chairman to sign the attached agreement, and
authorize the necessary budget amendments.
Just a quick recap on the history of this project. The
objective is to construct an EMS and fire station that serves the
expanding needs of Golden Gate Estates and eastern Collier
County. This is in collaboration with our Greater Naples Fire
Department partners, and we also coordinated with our North
Collier Fire partners as well.
Our project site location is on the southwest corner of
DeSoto Boulevard and Golden Gate Boulevard in the eastern
Golden Gate Estates. And this area, as you know, is
experiencing rapid growth, significant growth. The Town of Big
Cypress will have, itself, over 8,000 homes and 880 -- actually
882 affordable housing units.
We see a 20 percent average increase in call volume over
the past year in that area, and we see the continued growth, of
course, of Golden Gate Estates itself at about 10 percent every
five years, growth and population.
This station can actually serve as a forward [sic] command
for brushfires and field operations out there in that area. As you
know, this area has experienced several brushfires in the last
several years.
Additionally, it will improve response times for our fire and
EMS folks. The closest existing station is actually 12 miles
away to the west on Golden Gate Boulevard. It will also provide
space for coastal units during storms. As you know, during
storm events, our locations along the coastline that may have
been built several years ago are particularly vulnerable, and our
folks will have the opportunity to flex in their units to the east,
protect those units, protect their apparatus so they can respond
after that storm. It also has the benefit of decreasing insurance
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rates for the nearby residents as well.
The station features five apparatus bays, 12 bunkrooms, a
small fitness room and screened-in porch for the folks that are
staying there on shift. It includes support areas, including a gear
room and a decon -- decontamination area for the folks that are
out there. As those first responders come back to the station,
they'll be able to go into a separate decontamination room, get
cleaned up, and that keeps them separate from their living
quarters; good for health.
Additionally, there will be a fueling station there that will be
available for, you know, fire district and EMS and county units
operating in that area of the county.
Currently, the site is undeveloped, and it's not served by
Public Utilities, so there will be potable well, a fire well, and a
septic system, but it will be set up to connect to future utilities as
they become available. We will also include a small
communications tower on the site to provide the needed
enhancement to the radio and cellular communications for those
folks operating out there.
Our bid responses on the project, we actually received six
bids. Five of those bids were deemed responsive. The lowest
of those five was Rycon Construction at 9.48 million. This came
in 6 percent lower than the opinion of probable cost we had ahead
of this bid, and staff recommends awarding this contract to
Rycon Construction.
Our funding plan for this project does include consolidating
the EMS budgets under the surtax program to fully fund this
station. Our coordination, County Manager and our fire district
chiefs, have been coordinating and have agreed that the next two
stations, as part of that three-station expansive program, will be
built by the two fire stations, and they will coordinate with us
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during design as we did with them to ensure that our EMS
partners are -- in-house EMS folks have the needed space inside
those stations.
This chart outlines the consolidation of those budgets from
the North Naples and the Heritage Bay EMS budget into this
station and asks for an additional amount for those surtax
reserves to fully fund the total budget of this project.
Again, our recommendation is to award this construction
contract to Rycon Construction and give us direction to go build
the new station in Golden Gate Estates.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Thank you, Tom.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: So moved.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Second.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Do you have a comment,
Commissioner McDaniel?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: No. I just wanted to
make the motion.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Gotcha. So we have a motion by
Commissioner McDaniel, a second by Commissioner LoCastro.
All in favor, say aye.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: It passes. Thank you, Tony.
MR. BARONE: Thank you, Commissioners.
MS. PATTERSON: Thank you, Chiefs.
Item #11B
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AN AGREEMENT FOR SALE AND PURCHASE WITH
ANDREW J. KLEINBERGER AND TERRIE R. KLEINBERGER
AS TRUSTEE OF THE ANDREW AND TERRIE KLEINBERGER
REVOCABLE TRUST (THE “KLEINBERGER REV. TRUST”)
FOR TWO PARCELS TOTALING FIVE ACRES UNDER THE
CONSERVATION COLLIER LAND ACQUISITION PROGRAM
AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED $106,500. (JAIME COOK,
DIRECTOR, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW) (DISTRICT 5) MOTION
TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL; SECONDED
BY COMMISSIONER LOCASTRO - APPROVED
Commissioners, that brings us back to Item 11B. This is a
recommendation to approve an agreement for sale and purchase
with Andrew J. Kleinberger and Terrie R. Kleinberger as
Trustees of the Andrew and Terrie Kleinberger Revocable Trust
for two parcels totaling five acres under the Conservation Collier
Land Acquisition Program at a cost not to exceed $106,500.
Ms. Jaime Cook, director of Development Review, is here to
present and/or answer questions.
MS. COOK: Good morning, Commissioners, Jaime Cook,
your director of Development Review at Growth
Management/Community Development.
The Gore Preserve -- Troy. The Gore Preserve multi-parcel
project was approved by the Board on February 28th, 2023, as
part of Cycle 11B. You reapproved the Gore Preserve to remain
on the A list for acquisition at the October 10th, 2023, board
meeting. And the parcels owned by the Kleinberger Trust are
within the Gore Preserve multi-parcel project boundary.
For reference, the Gore Preserve is located in the Golden
Gate Estates near DeSoto Boulevard South and I-75. To date,
Conservation Collier has acquired approximately 215 acres or
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36 percent of the area targeted for preservation.
The Gore Preserve provides habitat for wildlife, including
female panthers and kittens that have about identified within the
preserve boundary. Florida black bears, wading birds, and the
bonneted bat. It provides wildlife corridor connectivity with
state and federal lands, including the Florida Panther Wildlife
Refuge to the east and Picayune Strand State Forest to the south,
as well as private conservation lands, including the Rural Land
Stewardship Area and the Rural Fringe Mixed-Use District
sending lands, as well as other Conservation Collier property,
including the North Belle Meade Preserve about two miles to the
east.
The Gore Preserve contains native wetland and upland
habitats, and the Kleinberger Trust specifically sell five -- two
parcels of five acres of forested shrub -- scrub-shrub wetlands,
mostly cypress and wetland hardwood habitats, and it is
100 percent hydric depressional soils.
CHAIRMAN HALL: What kind of wetlands were those?
MS. COOK: Cypress and forested shrub --
CHAIRMAN HALL: Shrub.
MS. COOK: -- scrub wetlands, sorry. Still in protocol, sir.
The purchase price is 95 percent of the appraised value of
the property, and the management costs consist mostly of exotic
removal as well as adding signage and development of access
trails within the preserve.
The total cost of $106,500 includes the purchase price of
$104,500 plus the closing costs of approximately $2,000.
So with that, staff would recommend that the Board approve
the purchase agreement and acquire these parcels as part of the
Conservation Collier land acquisition program at a cost not to
exceed $106,500.
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With that, I'll take any questions you may have.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Thank you, Ms. Cook.
Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yeah, two things. Bring
up your site map, if you would, please. There you go. And
where is the Gore property? I know there is a homestead there
in the middle that's part of the trust of the Gores, but where is the
Gore property located at? It's east of this.
MS. COOK: This is Gore.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Up here, north and east.
MS. COOK: So this hole in the middle is what was
Dr. Gore's home.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Right. There is a -- isn't
the Gore piece -- the Gore Preserve over east off of DeSoto?
MS. COOK: It is, yes, yes. DeSoto runs through the
middle of -- right here.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: So the actual Gore
property that we were talking about earlier is to the east of this.
What I would like to see is a larger map of what we're looking at
here so that the Board can actually -- I know where it is; you
know where it is, but -- there we go.
MS. COOK: There you go.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: There we go. So --
MS. COOK: The Gore Preserve is outlined in red.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: In red. And the piece
that we're talking about's pretty much over here where the 49 is in
that area?
MS. COOK: Correct, yes.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: On that line.
And then No. 2, I didn't go through the paperwork on the
appraisal. Was the -- were the appraisals accounting for the
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developability of the site with relationship to mitigation expense
if someone paid $106,000 to buy this piece of property to build a
home, these two pieces? Did the appraisal give consideration to
the offsite mitigation or on-site, as the case may be, to effectuate
a value?
MS. COOK: So the appraisals, the -- the appraisal that's
done for these multi-parcel projects takes into account the value
of the land based on wetlands available on the property. So as
you can see on the screen, the value per acre when it's 0 to
25 percent wetlands -- so mostly upland -- is worth
approximately 50,000, whereas these two parcels, which were
over 76 percent wetlands, are valued at $22,000 an acre. So,
yes, it takes into --
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: You're going to forgive
me, because I'm sitting here looking at -- and this screen,
Troy -- my screen has changed twice since I've been sitting here
this morning. So it keeps going back to -- it keeps going back to
the -- and it has nothing on it now.
So repeat what -- repeat what you just had to say, please,
because I'd like to know --
MS. COOK: So the market studies done in these
multi-parcel areas -- and this one is specific for the Gore
Preserve -- does look at the amount of wetlands on site for each
parcel and then determines a value based on the percentage of
wetlands on the property. So if it were a mostly-upland parcel,
it's valued at $50,000 an acre for these size properties.
These two parcels were valued at $22,000 an acre because
they are over 75 percent wetlands. So yes, that -- that cost is
taken into consideration.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay. I'm saying okay
right now, but it seems convoluted to me because there's
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a -- there's a value put upon these properties based upon typical
wetland developability --
MS. COOK: Correct.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: -- and so on and so forth.
And someone -- if somebody else in the free market were to buy
one of these pieces of property, they'd have to pay 50-some-odd
thousand dollars for the site, and -- because this is two lots --
MS. COOK: Correct.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: -- if I'm not mistaken,
and they are allowed to build a home on those two lots.
MS. COOK: Correct.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And then there would be
an additional expense associated with that $50,000 price that
we're attributing to this value, and that should become -- in my
mind, that should be a reduction in that expense associated with
the developability of the site. They have to go off site for a
certain period of -- or portion of mitigation.
MS. COOK: And that is all -- would be all regulated by the
state. So the quality of the wetlands, the amount of exotics on
the site would determine that, and those values fluctuate with
DEP based on development.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I'm aware of that.
MS. COOK: Yes.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I would just -- again,
we're doing it the way we've been doing it because this is the way
we've been doing it, but I would like to give consideration to
Conservation Collier's acquisitions to be an offset -- to be an
offset to the free marketplace with regard to the developability of
the site. That may -- that may assist us as we're -- as we're
looking at future properties. Because we will be looking at
future properties. The goal is to be buying environmentally
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sensitive properties.
And so this is just a different way of looking at it. I mean,
right now we're -- necessarily, we're saying it's $50,000 an acre in
that particular area if it were all high and dry and ready to go, and
we're discounting it down because of an in excess of 75 percent
to the $22,000 an acre in a global fashion, but we're still paying
that.
MS. COOK: Correct.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: So it would be interesting
to see from a free-market standpoint that someone would buy
that, and then -- and then we should -- someone should ascertain
what that mitigation expense would be to be able to develop my
one acre on that piece of property, or quarter acre, whatever I
needed to mitigate for, as an additional expense associated with
that acquisition.
CHAIRMAN HALL: So --
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I'll make a motion for
approval as we go.
CHAIRMAN HALL: We have a motion by Commissioner
McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: I'll second it.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Second by Commissioner LoCastro.
All in favor to approve, say aye.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Mr. Chair, can I just
make a comment now that we've approved it?
Ms. Cook, I just wanted to thank you for how aggressively
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you've really accelerated this program. You know, all five of us
took a lot of heat when we made some aggressive changes to the
Conservation Collier Program because we weren't happy with
60 million sitting in the bank and five million over two years’
worth of parcels coming to us.
We've purchased more parcels here probably in the last
what, four, six months than maybe has been done in years. So,
you know, we're on the right track, and I know you also spent a
lot of time with each of us. You know, you were in all of our
offices yesterday talking about this.
And so, you know, people can say what they want on the
outside who maybe don't fully understand the program, but the
bottom line is -- and I've said it before -- our job's not to collect
taxes from taxpayers. Our job's to manage that money properly.
And in the last few months, I'm really pleased, and I think I speak
for all of us up here.
And we haven't bought all the parcels, so it's not a matter of
rubber stamping them, but we don't have a crystal ball either. So
they need to come to us with a lot of background and all the data
that, you know, you've provided, and then we need to make a
judgment call. And, you know, we're finally doing that, and I
think that's what the taxpayers voted for years ago, a few years
ago, when they, you know, wanted to see this program
successful. It's definitely on the right track and -- you know, in
no short part, you know, due to your efforts, so thank you.
MS. COOK: Thank you. I appreciate that.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Yes, ma'am.
MS. COOK: To kind of go to your point, I think since
Conservation Collier moved over to Growth Management, I think
we've acquired -- closed on 150 acres, spent about eight and a
half million dollars in the last five to six months.
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COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Yeah.
MS. COOK: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Scrub-shrub.
MS. COOK: I'll get it. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN HALL: County Manager.
Item #10A
CAT BUSES CHANGING THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS TO STAY ON
SCHEDULE (PER COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS DURING
AGENDA CHANGES) – DISCUSSED
MS. PATTERSON: Commissioners, we have about 10 minutes
until the court reporter break. I see Mr. Khawaja and Mr. Ahmad
are in the back of the room. Perhaps now would be the right time to
talk a little bit about the buses and the traffic lights so that we don't
start the sports complex presentation only to stop for the court
reporter break.
So if Trinity and folks would like to come up.
MS. SCOTT: Commissioners, for the record, Trinity Scott,
Transportation Management Services department head.
Just for clarification with regard to our traffic signals, there
are different things that can happen with a traffic signal, and one
is a preemption of the traffic signal which we have with our fire
trucks as well as our ambulances and that is, essentially, where
you will see the light start flashing, and that light will stay green
until those apparatuses get through that intersection so they can
get to their call more efficiently, particularly in our congested
time frames.
There is a second opportunity called signal priority
that -- gee, it's probably been nearly eight or nine years ago
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Collier Area Transit applied for a grant through the Florida
Department of Transportation to be able to install that on the
Collier Area Transit buses, the fixed-route buses, to assist them in
keeping their on-time performance, because one of the big things
about a transit system is that reliability is a huge concern when
residents and visitors are utilizing that.
So signal priority, very different than signal preemption, is
that it will allow the green time to be extended if we can
accommodate it within the system, but it does not take over that
entire traffic signal. Very different than preemption.
So with that, Collier Area Transit received their grant. The
Board approved the grant. We've also been working with the
consultant to implement that. We're in a testing phase right now.
We did actually just receive an email from a crossing guard
in Golden Gate City who said that she had noticed something a
little different, and so we're in the process of investigating that to
be able to see if there's things that we can tweak within the
system. But it is very -- preemption is very different than signal
priority.
And I have my technical experts behind me. I have Jay
Ahmad, Transportation Engineering director, as well as Tony
Khawaja, our chief engineer for Traffic Operation, if you'd like to
get some more details about that.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Any questions?
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I've got a question.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I'll go second.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Let Commissioner
Saunders go first.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Okay. All right.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Like I said earlier, I was
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at a meeting last night, and there was a gentleman there that
indicated that he had observed the lights change, and they
would -- it would go from red to green, and then on the other side
it would go from green to red without any yellow signal, and he's
witnessed a couple accidents. And then I got a letter -- an email
this morning from a different crossing guard basically saying the
same thing, that one of our buses would go through, and the
lights do something that they've not seen before, and they've
noticed and witnessed accidents.
And so I guess what I would ask the Board and the staff to
do is to take a look at this. These are -- I'll get you the emails.
But if we're doing something -- I understand the need to have our
buses on time, but if they're creating some traffic problems or
accidents, then we need to be aware of that and need to deal with
it, Mr. Chairman.
So that's all I know about it is what I heard last night.
MR. KHAWAJA: I agree with you 100 percent. For the
record, my name is Anthony Khawaja, chief traffic operations
engineer.
We never compromise in safety and operation of the traffic
signals. We would never be able to go from a green on one side
to a green on the other side without going through the proper
clearances.
There is a device that's called the malfunctioning unit which
is -- a lot of people call it the watchdog which would prohibit a
signal from displaying two conflicting movements without the
clearance period. So we always would go -- from green, we
would always go to a yellow, then to an all red period before
being through -- serving a conflicting movement, and that's if we
have preemption or if we don't have preemption.
The bus preemption is -- the bus priority, it's not really a
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preemption. It uses the same device, but it's a priority. The bus
priority is a little bit different than an emergency priority. The
bus priority is -- it's programmed to have intelligent [sic] on the
bus as well as the traffic signal.
Unless the bus is behind and running late, the bus does not
request service, and the service does not occur unless we are at a
certain point on the traffic signal that we can service it.
So if we cannot service it, we would skip it because it's very
important for the bus not to do anything that would disturb
coordination and the traffic signal operations.
So we would only add -- we have it -- today we're still
monitoring, and we might do other settings. But today we have
it set up to either increase the green by seven seconds to allow a
bus that's running behind and he's coming at the end of the green
to go through the intersection, or if he is coming and waiting and
he's behind, to shorten the side street green by no more than
seven seconds. And neither one of these cases would -- should
cause any safety issues.
What the guard -- I read the email -- and seems to have
seeing is they see the confirmation beacon. What we do for the
fire trucks and ambulances is we have a flashing solid. It's like a
floodlight that lights up when an emergency vehicle's
approaching. And the intent of that floodlight is to tell the fire
truck that we got them, we captured his request, and we're
processing it internally to see when we can serve him next.
Because if the walk was on, you know, and we are serving
the walk, that truck would have to wait till the walk is fully
serviced. Even if it's 40 seconds, that fire truck or emergency
truck will not preempt the traffic signal because safety is our first
priority; so we would not do that.
The thing is, if he -- if we are serving normal traffic, we
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would go -- we would try to get him the green as soon as
possible. And some phases we can shorten. You know, we can
shorten the green, but we always would go through a yellow plus
an all-red period, then service the opposing movement or service
that truck.
For -- for low priority, we do not preempt the signal. It's
always add a little bit of green in case they are running late or
take away some short amount of green from the side street if we
can -- to bring the green early for them to get them through the
intersection quicker.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: If I could,
then -- Mr. Chairman, if I could get to staff the emails; if you
could get those from Sue Filson.
MR. KHAWAJA: Yes.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Get the emails and --
MR. KHAWAJA: And we'll contact county commissioner.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Just take a look at it
because that's --
MR. KHAWAJA: Absolutely, absolutely, for sure.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes. How many buses
have this prioritization methodology?
MR. KHAWAJA: Right now there are two, but the
service -- what they need is an emitter similar to the emitter that
sits on the fire truck or the ambulance. But it uses a different
frequency which tells our signal that this is not a high priority; it's
a low priority.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And the --
MR. KHAWAJA: And the intent is to put it on all their
buses.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: So let's keep it on the two
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that are there for the testing --
MR. KHAWAJA: Yes.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: -- unless it messes -- I see
Trinity getting all up on this. I've got -- you know, other than all
five commissioners getting a preemptive one in our own personal
vehicle -- I would really like that -- but I think this is -- I have a
concern with this -- because the second part of my question is,
this messes with our entire system. Our entire system is
integrated.
When -- I know that traffic signalization, there's a -- there's a
spell from a period of time that an emergency vehicle goes
through one of our intersections, there's a period of time there
before the light -- before the system reboots and goes back into
management process. And I'm wondering, just with what some
of the citizenry is seeing now, that maybe we ought to do some
further testing on this that -- just to make sure that it is properly
integrated. That's a first thought. And then the second thought
is, is it AI that's managing whether the bus is late or not, or is a
driver?
MR. KHAWAJA: No. The intent is to take that away
from the driver so the driver is not making a request. It's AI.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: That makes me feel a
little bit better, as long as the system is -- one system is talking to
another, that allows for less of human impact.
MR. KHAWAJA: Right, right. We don't want the driver
to make the decision. We want the vehicle to be -- if it's running
behind, it knows its schedule, it knows that, hey, I'm five minutes
behind. I'd like to catch up.
And a lot of our buses -- we don't run a lot of buses in an
hour. I mean, you know, our buses, the headway is very long in
between, so -- and it does not preempt -- to your point,
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Commissioner, it's not like what a fire truck will do.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I understand that.
MR. KHAWAJA: We do not preempt for those. So it has
to fit within the cycle length so we can maintain progression and
maintain coordination.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: That was a very good
description.
MR. KHAWAJA: It's a big difference.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Oh, it's a huge difference.
(Simultaneous crosstalk.)
MR. KHAWAJA: And we wouldn't do it if it's going to
interrupt the flow. It does not interrupt flow.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: I'm lit up.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Oh, are you? Go ahead,
Commissioner Kowal.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Thank you, Chairman.
You clarified that, that basically our buses, it already has to
be a green cycle, just when he's approaching and if the system's
activated, it just extends that green for a courtesy to him to make
it through the intersection, and, then, of course, the other people
that are in front of him; they get through. So it doesn't change
the cycle in any way, our particular buses. But I know fire and
EMS, you know, those actually can switch the light to help them
get through the intersection.
But when you had made a comment about, well, if the
crosswalk is still lit, it won't allow it to switch or -- it's integrated
to where it won't allow it to switch, but if I remember correctly, if
you're running code, lights and sirens, you don't stop for a red
light. You just make sure it's clear, and you get through.
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So that's -- it's a courtesy that the fire and EMS have that,
that it will turn green if they get there in time, but at the same
time, they're slowing down and making sure it's safe enough to
get through, and they're still going through the red light.
And I think that's -- you know, I don't know where this
intersection is. I don't know if it's the same exact one, all three
incidents this happened. Maybe it's just a glitch in the system
for that particular light. You know, I don't know. I guess we'll
get more information on that.
But I just know as a deputy we never had that luxury. You
crossed your finger, said a prayer, and hoped you made it through
the intersection.
MR. KHAWAJA: And we don't give that to the Sheriff
here as well. It is -- it's exactly like you describe it,
Commissioner.
The thing is, with the pedestrian phase, we don't know if
somebody's in a wheelchair, and we can't just shut him off. And
the fire truck is on its own or the ambulance to go -- to go
through the intersection and go around whoever's doing the
crossing. But we do not shorten the "walk" and the "do not
walk" timing, and that stays red till it expires, and then we can
serve them. But then he might be gone through the intersection
already.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Thank you. I just wanted to
make sure everyone understood that.
MR. KHAWAJA: You're absolutely correct. And just as a
follow-up, we got the email about -- I have a staff going to
double-check that location and make sure it is not doing
something wrong.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner LoCastro.
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COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Did I hear you right, you
said you only have -- we only have two CAT buses that have that
capability? Did you say only two?
MR. KHAWAJA: No, that's what the commissioner said.
I don't know how many they have. I only work on my part of
the signal system.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Okay.
MR. KHAWAJA: How many buses they have that they
equipped with that is -- I'm not sure.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Do you know, Ms. Scott,
how many of our buses have it?
MS. SCOTT: I don't know. We have approximately 20
fixed-route buses. It would be on all of the buses ultimately
because buses are not assigned to a route. Buses go on different
routes all the time.
So, particularly, if you were looking at, say, U.S. 41 which
is probably a route that probably runs behind a little bit more
often than other routes, you wouldn't want to have a bus out there
that wouldn't have the technology on there.
But as Tony has stated, is from a traffic operations
perspective, we really paint that -- paint them into a box, paint
transit into a box of if this has to occur, this has to occur, and this
has to occur. All the conditions have to be right for it to be able
to even get that extension of green time.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: And I know this isn't in
your job jar, but I'm -- is it a good assumption that that
technology isn't in any school buses to be able to do that, right?
MS. SCOTT: It is not on any school buses.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: All right. Thank you.
MS. SCOTT: And for the record, we turn every red light
red for Commissioner McDaniel coming in.
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COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Let the record reflect.
MR. KHAWAJA: It's no accident.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Thank you, all.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Just as a public service
announcement, 252-5000. There's a big steel box at every single
intersection. We're 400,000 sets of eyes and ears that traverse
our community. These folks need assistance.
I went on two -- through two intersections yesterday, made a
phone call, a person picked up the phone, and I gave two
intersections where I perceived there were circumstances that
were going on; the left-hand arrow was only letting two cars
through on a two-lane left turn. And so -- and they welcome that
input from our citizenry. So it's -- that's a public service
announcement. Call that number if you're out and about and you
see an issue you're perceiving. Call it.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Great. All right. Court reporter --
MS. PATTERSON: Court reporter break.
CHAIRMAN HALL: All right. So we'll break -- it's
10:35. We'll come back at 10:45, if that's okay.
(A brief recess was had from 10:35 a.m. to 10:46 a.m.)
CHAIRMAN HALL: Let's get that ball rolling.
Item #11D
PROPOSED FACILITY LICENSE AGREEMENT AND
ADDENDUM BETWEEN FC NAPLES USL, LLC, USL PRO-2,
LLC, AND PARA SFM, LLC, AT THE PARADISE COAST
SPORTS COMPLEX. (DAN RODRIGUEZ, DEPUTY COUNTY
MANAGER) (ALL DISTRICTS) - MOTION TO APPROVE BY
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS; SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER HALL - APPROVED
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MS. PATTERSON: Commissioners, that brings us to
Item 11D. It's a recommendation to approve the attached proposed
facility lease -- facility license agreement and addendum between FC
Naples USL, LLC; USL Pro-2, LLC; and PARA SFM, LLC, at the
Paradise Coast Sports Complex.
Mr. Dan Rodriguez, Deputy County Manager, will begin the
presentation.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Good morning, Commissioners. For
the record, Dan Rodriguez.
Thank you, Amy.
The sports complex is absolutely no surprise to any of you
on the Board. You've all been involved in giving staff direction
to stick with the original vision of the sports complex, and that
was to create a national tourism destination for sports activities
but also to maximize its use not only by our visitors and residents
here in Collier County but also the community sports leagues that
we have here in Collier County. And through that, you hired
Sports Facilities, a group to manage that, and to bring their
expertise to do just that.
And what we have before you is an agreement for a lease
option to get an anchor tenant that will bring a national sport
league to the county.
Just to give you some quick background, back in November
you actually gave direction to Sports Facilities to go and find a
national sports league to come here to the sports complex. And
as part of that due diligence, Adrian Moses and Jack Adams did
exactly that. They did a national search. They reached out to
their partners as well as people in the industry to find a group that
would come here and bring a soccer league to Collier County.
With that, the -- as you are aware, last Board meeting, the
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staff provided you with a presentation that outlined that contract,
and you gave some very good direction to staff on some
enhancements to that contract. You had some very good
questions about the timeline and about sharing of revenue and
whatnot.
So with that, I'm going to turn the presentation over to
Adrian Moses who's going to go through some of that. And just
for the record, just to let you know, staff, including our
contractor, Sports Facilities, has worked directly with the County
Attorney's Office. Both Jeff Klatzkow and Scott Teach have put
a lot of hard work in this, as well as with our County Manager
and the Clerk of Courts to get her feedback -- or their feedback, I
should say. And so what you have before you is what I believe
is a well-vetted contract that meets a lot of those expectations.
With that, Adrian Moses.
MR. MOSES: Good morning, Commissioners. Adrian
Moses representing Sports Facilities Companies as the general
manager of the Paradise Coast Sports Complex. Happy New
Year to you.
Thank you, Dan.
We've come a long way here to get to this point. It's no
small -- no small undertaking to put a first-ever professional
franchise into Collier County, and we're very proud to present
this.
The presentation we made in December outlined 90 percent
of the things that we all agreed upon, and then there was a few
updates that we took and worked diligently over the holiday
period. Thank you to Scott and to Crystal for -- and Crystal's
staff to working diligently with us to make this a reality.
So the first one was moving from a net revenue split for
concession revenue to a net [sic] revenue split, and we came to
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agreement with the team operating on that. The other one was
incorporating a CPI index for the option that the team operators
could exercise to have once those came available.
I'm looking at Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And maybe you
misspoke, but it went from net to gross, not net to net.
MR. MOSES: Yes, sorry.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: That's all right. Because
that was one of the -- that was one of my buttons, and so we -- we
moved to a gross.
MR. MOSES: Thank you for correcting me. That was a
misspeak from my point right now. But those recommendations
have all been taken into account. Both on concessions and on
parking, we moved to that model based upon the
recommendations there. So those recommendations were made,
added into the agreement.
To review what the objectives were: Having an anchor
tenant in the stadium, providing consistent revenue over the
summer months, which is the majority of the season for United
Soccer Leagues. Showcase Collier County as a sports tourism
destination. This team will travel away to multiple markets that
we don't currently advertise in -- advertise the destination in.
Also, it will be placed on national TV in the form of streaming on
ESPN Plus and on national TV broadcast and domestic cable and
CBS. That's not every single game. It will be select games.
But it will be the only league that is -- soccer league that is
broadcast on domestic cable.
And it's obviously an increase in revenue to the sports
complex in periods -- in months that -- recently I presented our
annual review, and the months that we aren't as successful are
the -- are those summer months. So it gives us a bump there.
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The impact to the local economy is going to be consistent,
and that comes in the form of additional hotel revenue and things
like transportation excursions that visiting team supporters will
be able to do.
And, finally, the X factor of this is to build some civic pride,
to build community activity for families to do. And leading onto
that, the team ownership group is here in attendance, and they've
committed to going to community committee for team naming
and things like that. They want to engage the community fully
in making sure that this team becomes a fabric -- part of the
fabric of our local community.
The key points of the agreement: To remind you the initial
term is an eight-year term with a possibility of increasing that
over renewal options of four years at a time leading up to a
20-year total term. That's mutually beneficial to the team who is
making a very large investment into our community. Team
operator is going to pay a base use for stadium rates. That's
based upon a schedule that is predetermined. That doesn't -- it
doesn't preclude us from using the stadium for other activities and
other prebooked events.
There's a guaranteed investment from their sponsorship sales
activity, and then there's other auxiliary revenue opportunities
such as concessions and parking that we've already discussed
earlier on.
The recommendation on behalf of Sports Facilities
Companies and the County Manager's Office, if I speak on their
behalf, is that the Board [sic] recommends the Board to approve
the contract that we have with FC Naples.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Thank you, Mr. Moses.
MR. MOSES: Any questions?
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner Saunders.
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COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I think -- and this may be
in here, but I had mentioned when we were talking about this a
few weeks back that I thought that there should be some escalator
in the fee, because $100,000 plus or minus now means
something, but in 20 years from now it doesn't. I didn't see that.
That doesn't mean it's not here. I just didn't see it.
MR. MOSES: Yeah. It's been added in the form of the
CPI index. That is something that Jack Adams can speak very
clearly to.
Jack, do you mind --
MR. ADAMS: Not at all. For the record, Jack Adams
from Sports Facilities Companies. There is an escalator in there,
a CPI escalator.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Can you --
MR. ADAMS: Point to it?
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: -- direct me to it or what
that language says?
MR. ADAMS: While we continue, I'll find it.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: And then also, just for
the County Attorney, Scott Teach here? I think he's --
MR. KLATZKOW: No, he's out.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Is he? Okay.
I guess my only question to the County Attorney is, it's hard
for us to know that this is a good agreement. I don't think I have
any issues with it, but I want to get your opinion. You guys
were involved in the negotiations and the drafting. So what is
your legal opinion? Obviously the policy issue is for us, but
have you had a chance to kind of evaluate the whole agreement?
MR. KLATZKOW: The one provision I would prefer be in
the agreement -- but we don't always get what we want; we get
what we need -- is I would like to see a right for the county to
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terminate this if worse comes to worst. It could be by cash
payment or whatever.
As a structure, this is a 20-year agreement. You've got your
first initial term, but then the soccer team has multiple renewals
options. And it's their options, not ours. So this is a 20-year
deal. It's a long commitment. I always say it's like a prenup
almost kind of thing. Like what happens if things turn sour on
us; can we get out? And right now, we cannot get out.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: There's no termination
even for cause?
MR. KLATZKOW: I don't know how you'd have cause,
but you can always terminate for cause. But it's -- if, for
example, the county, years from now, wants to decide to sell the
sports complex and do something else with it, this would make it
difficult.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: And I understand why
they would not want to have termination at the free will of the
Commission, because that means they really don't have a binding
agreement other than the termination period. So I understand
that.
And if you're saying that we can still terminate for cause,
that I think your words were "you can always terminate for
cause," then I think I'm pretty comfortable with that. Again,
understanding that from their perspective, termination at will by
the Board would be unacceptable. And I certainly understand
that.
MR. MOSES: Could I add to that? I think -- I think,
Commissioner Kowal, you had some questions about some
comparisons.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Yes, sir.
MR. MOSES: About where we came to. So in
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2025 -- USL is a growing league. It's an exciting league to be a
part of. There are two other expansion teams in 2025 as well as
Naples. One is in Queensboro, New York, and one is in
Portland, Maine.
To give you some examples, the Portland, Maine, is a
15-year agreement where the team retains the options. Their
deal is that they use the facility rent free for that. Their
part -- their deal is that they pay a $1 million capital investment
to get 10 years of free rent.
Part of their deal, they estimated that the rental rate for the
facility was $128,000 a year. That's their local city.
Approximately, they're expecting about $30,000 in advertising
revenue.
So in terms of apples to apples, a team that's coming into the
league at the same time, you can see that the position that we've
taken as Sports Facilities Companies in negotiating this deal was
a very strong one.
In New York, it's a little different. The team are looking to
actively purchase some land to build their own stadium, so their
deal is a five-year lease with four one-year options, which are
their options to take on board.
They're paying a one-time $2 million fee to, I think,
Queensboro. And on top of that, they only get 15 percent of any
advertising sales from the team. So that is apples to apples.
There was one other example I found of a similar kind of
agreement. Very -- they're very different all between each
individual team whether they own the property they play in or
they have it from a city or from a council. Rochester Rhinos in
New York, their initial contract was a $50,000 rental every year
for use of the stadium in that city.
So there's some real-time examples of comparisons
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between -- between teams that are coming into exactly the same
league at exactly the same time.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Thank you.
I have similar concerns to Commissioner Saunders with
regard to the longevity of this agreement. And the way I'm
reading it, the really only way we have to get out is if there's a
breach in the agreement somehow, someway, and that would be
for cause. And, of course, we would have to suffer the
consequences of litigation because whenever that happens,
people lawyer up.
I can understand the concern of a future board not wanting
to stay in the transaction just from a political standpoint.
I asked a question yesterday, and I didn't get an answer, and
I didn't ask it of senior staff. I asked when the Clerk and I met.
Is this agreement assignable? Is this lease agreement assignable
if these folks that are -- if these folks that are starting this
professional team, if they were to sell?
MR. KLATZKOW: They can assign it to another team if
they sell. So you would have another team in this league come
in and take over.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Is it at our discretion, or
do they just have the right to do that and we get to take who they
sell it to?
MR. KLATZKOW: No. They have -- they have the
right -- I'm just reading it quickly. They have the right, without
our consent, to assign this agreement to another entity with
league approval.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Adds to my concern with
the longevity.
And then, third, my question -- the other question is, has
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anyone looked -- is there a pro forma at all? Because I have a
delineation here of the proposal, and I see money from the
operator or to the operator and from the -- to the team operator,
but I don't see how much money is coming to the county. Is
there an estimate as to what the county stands to make? Because
I know we're going to -- through you, we're going to invest staff
time, materials, maintenance. It's our duty, I think, per our
agreement, that we -- we're responsible for the ongoing upkeep
and maintenance of this facility.
MR. MOSES: That's correct. Ultimately, if you look at,
from our perspective as Sports Facilities Companies away from
the county, if this wasn't in the best interest based upon our
contract with Collier County, we wouldn't get into a deal like
this. So there is a significant upside financially for the complex.
Leading onto that as well from the fact that the funding does
come from the county for the staffing and that kind of -- all of
those kind of things. In the contract, the team operator is
actually funding back all costs associated with game day activity.
So, yes, the county are funding upfront costs for the game day
operations, but the team is essentially footing the bill for that
through paying that back to the county as a game day invoice.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And is there an estimate
of revenue generation for the county?
MR. MOSES: Yes, there is. It's been shared with staff,
and we can share it with you.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner Saunders.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: This is a question for the
County Attorney, because maybe I'm confused. Paragraph 29 of
the agreement talks about the team operator shall not assign this
agreement or any part thereof without the prior consent in writing
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of the licensor. So --
MR. KLATZKOW: When you go further in the paragraph,
notwithstanding the foregoing, they have the right and so forth.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: To another team?
MR. KLATZKOW: To another team.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: So they can't just assign
this agreement to another --
MR. KLATZKOW: No.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Once they have the same
team --
MR. KLATZKOW: We're essentially getting a team into a
particular league --
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: They can't sell the
agreement.
MR. KLATZKOW: -- and we could take another team
within that particular league.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Okay. And we are the
licensor. So we would control the assignment in general;
however, if it's an assignment to another team, then we live with
that.
MR. KLATZKOW: That's correct, sir.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Again, I don't know that
I would have any problem with that.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay.
CHAIRMAN HALL: So while I understand a lot of these
concerns, it's kind of a different bird, because the owners are
going to put -- they have to have an asset to create their business,
and it's not like they're just a tenant at will where they're just
going to use -- you know, they're going to create -- they're going
to create a brand. They're going to create a culture to bring to
Collier County, a soccer league, a pro soccer league where their
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teeth are sunk in the deal in another fashion other than just with
the lease.
So, yes, you know, the Clerk's concerns about this is
unprecedented. You know, normally we have a way out or
whatever -- but I think in good judgment, there's -- there's things
like -- of what it could be, and then there's things of what it's
likely to be. And I think with this particular situation and this
particular transaction, I'm really comfortable with the way things
are likely to be because I can see in the near future a real soccer
culture coming behind this team.
You know, whether they call it the Naples Fireballers or the
Naples Palm Tree. I don't know what. You know, the public
will consider that. But I love their attitude. They're in it to win
it. Number one, the league won't allow them to have language
that just willy-nilly allows any board to nip it in the bud.
And so I think, you know, more importantly, I think that we
could get behind them with this lease. I like the way -- I like
everything about it. Except for the un -- the uncanny part of it,
but I'm willing to live with that because my faith is behind these
guys. And, there again, if they don't perform, things are
different. But if they do, we get behind them, and we have a real
win-win situation. Besides all that, I know their attitude, and
their attitude's, "Winning is not everything; it's the only thing."
So with that, any other comments? Can we
get -- Commissioner Saunders.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Thank you,
Mr. Chairman.
We have an agreement with our management company that
basically says we can terminate their agreement with 90 days'
notice without cause, just as a -- for whatever reason we want to
come up with, or no reason. And so they know that, we know
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that, and based on that, I'm sure they've done their due diligence
to make sure that this group that we're going to be dealing with
isn't going to embarrass them, our management company,
because if they do, that's going to fall on you guys.
And so I'm comfortable with the agreement. I agree with
you, Commissioner Hall, that this elevates this Paradise Coast
park to something a little different than what we had anticipated
originally but certainly within the -- within the scope of what we
were planning for this facility. I think soccer is probably the
number-one sport in Collier County. It's probably going to be
one of the top sports, if not the number-one sport in Florida.
And so I think this is a -- this is a great deal. I think it really,
again, elevates the use of this facility. You're 100 percent
correct in terms of having some identity with a professional team
I think will elevate the sport in our county. And so unless
somebody else has anything to say, I'll make a motion to approve
going forward with it.
CHAIRMAN HALL: And I'll second it. All in favor to
approve, say aye.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: All opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN HALL: Congratulations. Motion approved.
(Applause.)
Item #11E
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AN UPDATE REGARDING THE RESULTS OF THE RIVIERA
GOLF ESTATES STRAW POLL SURVEY DISTRIBUTED AND
TABULATED BY THE COLLIER COUNTY SUPERVISOR OF
ELECTIONS AND PROVIDE DIRECTION ON HOW TO
PROCEED. (ED FINN, DEPUTY COUNTY MANAGER)
(DISTRICT 4) - MOTION TO NOT CREATE A SPECIAL
DISTRICT BY COMMISSIONER KOWAL; SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER – APPROVED
MS. PATTERSON: Commissioners, that brings us to
Item 11E. This is a recommendation to accept an update
regarding the results of the Riviera Golf Estates straw poll survey
distributed and tabulated by the Collier County Supervisor of
Elections and provide direction on how to proceed.
Mr. Ed Finn, your Deputy County Manager, will begin the
presentation discussion.
MR. FINN: Thank you, Ms. Patterson.
Mr. Chairman, thank you, sir. Congratulations.
Commissioner LoCastro, thank you for your service.
Troy, if you could pull up the one that says REV in front of
it, please.
In any event, while that's spinning up, I will speak to this.
We're returning to you today to give you the results of the straw
poll survey that the Supervisor of Elections conducted on our
behalf at Riviera. I have a presentation that goes over a little bit
of the history, and I'll be happy to go over that, or I can jump
right to the conclusion, and then we can talk about next steps if
you'd prefer, sir.
CHAIRMAN HALL: I'm all about the conclusion and the
next steps.
MR. FINN: All right. Troy. If you go to today's agenda,
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there's an item.
MR. MILLER: I'm working on it, sir. We're having an
issue, sir.
MR. FINN: Okay.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Have you got a frog in
your pocket?
MR. MILLER: No, sir.
MR. FINN: In any event, the survey results were tabulated
and conveyed to staff on December 18th. Of 690 surveys
mailed, 475, or 67 percent, were returned. Four hundred fifteen
of those, or 87 percent, voted no. Sixty of those voted yes.
The agenda item talks about the options going forward.
Should the Board not elect to proceed with the purchase, the
settlement agreement will become null and void, and the property
owner could proceed with a form of Bert Harris lawsuit. If a
lawsuit is filed, parties will be required to participate in
mandatory settlement mediation. Should that not result in an
agreed-upon settlement, the County Attorney has indicated that
he will request La Minnesota make a settlement to the
Board -- settlement offer to the Board. And among other
possibilities, the property owner could request what their initial
Bert Harris claim alleges, which is that they may be allowed to
develop 346 residential units.
Unlikely, but the Board could choose to proceed with the
creation of a special district and purchase the property.
Similarly unlikely, the Board could also consider exploring a
purchase partnership with the Riviera homeowners association.
With that, I'll be happy to attempt to answer any questions.
Or if there are some public input on this, perhaps we could
entertain that, and I can come back up and then attempt to answer
any questions you may have.
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CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner Kowal.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Thank you, Chair.
I've been very close to this whole situation since I had the
opportunity to take over District 4, and I just want to definitely
thank the manager's office and her staff and the attorney's office
and his staff and basically thinking outside of the box and
working with the people of Riviera Golf Estates on this situation
they've been faced with for several years now.
And, you know -- and that's how we came about to this point
in today, distributing the straw poll and getting the feeling and
the voice of the people that live in that community and the
temperature on what they feel about moving forward in this
particular situation that we had the opportunity to maybe explore.
And I think with the overwhelming 87 percent not participating
in this moving forward, I believe that I'd like to just make a
motion now and just basically table what we've entered into and
move on and not look any further into this particular portion of it,
building any type of taxing district where this would carry on any
further in the direction it was going in this negotiation. So I'd
like to make that motion now.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I'll second that,
Mr. Chairman.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Okay. Do we have -- we have some
public comment?
MR. MILLER: Yes, we do, sir.
Your first public speaker is Tricia Campbell, and she's been
ceded three additional minutes from Kimber Perala, who is sitting
right there. She'll have six minutes, and she will be followed by
Scott Soderstrom.
MS. CAMPBELL: Happy New Year. Another year with
Riviera. Aren't you guys lucky?
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As president of Riviera Golf Estates, I come before you
today to thank you for making the effort to conduct a straw poll
to gauge our community's support for the proposed settlement
agreement.
While the results of the poll show the vast majority of our
respondents to be against the agreement, I want to assure you that
our collective negative vote was mainly based on the lack of cost
sharing for the settlement and repairs required to the drainage
system but not necessarily on the proposed concept and structure
of the agreement.
Accordingly, we understand that promoting or opposing the
possible structure of a new agreement is quite premature at this
point; however, we want you to know the RGE board believes
that a vast majority of our community would respond favorably
to a modified proposal that brings the property acquisition costs
to RGE homeowners down within the range of the appraised
value as an undevelopable floodplain and golf course. We
believe this because a majority -- just short of a supermajority
voted for negotiations to pursue the purchase of the golf course
land at this price point in 2018.
That being said, we understand that what happens next is
uncertain, and it will still -- it is still up to you to decide how to
respond to the straw poll result and the imminent expiration of
the agreement upon which it is -- it was based.
But please be assured that we at Riviera see this moment as
the beginning, not the end of the process that will enable the
county and Riviera Homeowners Association to forge a
collaboration that will assure the property's stewardship of the
former golf course property by and for the people who hold it
dear to their hearts, the senior citizens of our community.
Therefore, I asked the Board to view the results of the straw
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poll as an important reference point but by no means a rejection
of the concept of the county and RGE working together to put
this land at its best possible use while preserving the floodplain
which it ensures for our community.
So in the interest, please be assured that as this next chapter
of the golf course property controversy unfolds, we at RGE
remain open and willing partners to a viable solution. Thank
you.
MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is Scott Soderstrom, and
he will be followed on Zoom by Katie Berkey.
MR. SODERSTROM: Good morning, Commissioners.
I'm Scott Soderstrom. I live at 148 Estelle in Riviera Golf
Estates. I am a licensed professional engineer with 42 years of
experience. I am a licensed Florida professional engineer. I am
a veteran of the Civil Engineer Corps of the United States Navy,
and I want to provide you some engineering information that I
hope is helpful for you to ascertain what's going on with the
current condition.
So a few notes. FYI, there is an outstanding Collier County
code violation dated April 6th from the county against LA
Minnesota concerning the Riviera Golf property which states,
with my professional opinion, the water management areas are
not maintained by the owner. Swales/ditches, which are five
miles long, are improperly maintained at most locations. The
result is causing negative, improper water flow causing flooding
and long-term ponding causing mosquito issues near residential
areas.
LA Minnesota, the owner, since ownership, has only cut
some of the tall grass. Deferred maintenance has resulted in the
necessity for major repair/reconstruction of the drainage system
now.
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In the code violation, it also states the order to correct the
violation. It says, with my professional opinions, LA Minnesota
is directed to return all drainage swales bordering the golf course
to original site plan. This basically consists of a 2-foot ditch
bottom, 3-to-1 side slopes with positive drainage flow to the
drainage structures which are the catch basins and culverts.
Secondly, LA Minnesota is to repair and replace all non -- or
poorly functional sewer pipes, culverts, and drainage systems
connected to the drainage swale system. Most of these pipes
that I observe are in bad condition. The metal pipes are badly
rusted, the concrete pipes are badly deteriorated, and I believe
some are unreinforced with steel.
Neighboring adjacent Collier County street storm sewer
drains -- they drain to the RGE golf course. The RGE golf
course serves as an important water retention and floodplain for
these Collier County streets and surrounding RGE community. I
have personally witnessed a lot of this flooding, and a lot of it
ends up on the golf course and on the streets.
In conclusion, there's been no maintenance to this RGE golf
course in the last few years from the current owner. The result is
repairs and reconstruction of the system is now required.
As a licensed professional engineer of 42 years, I ask that an
independent engineering study be performed. I estimate at least
a million dollars in repairs. Please save this crucial floodplain
drainage system for both the RGE residents and for Collier
County.
Thank you for your time.
MR. MILLER: Mr. Chair, your final registered speaker for
this item on Zoom, Katie Berkey.
Katie, you're being prompted to unmute yourself, and I see
you've done that. You have three minutes.
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MS. BERKEY: Yes, good morning, Commissioners. This
is Katie Berkey, for the record, at Becker & Poliakoff
representing Riviera Golf Estates Homeowners Association.
First and foremost, I'd like to take a moment to thank the
Board and county staff for their time and attention to this very
important matter over the last several months and for conducting
the straw poll survey.
To underscore Ms. Campbell's earlier remarks, the poll
results are not reflective of a lack of support for a concept of
purchasing the golf course and protecting it from redevelopment.
It is unfavorable with respect to Riviera Golf Estates
homeowners absorbing the cost to acquire and absorb the
ongoing maintenance and the corrective work that
Mr. Soderstrom just alluded to as well solely on their backs.
So consistent with my letter from yesterday that went out by
email, we implore the Board to consider alternative options to
purchase the golf course property in partnership between the
county and the association. And in the alternative, if it were the
Board's pleasure to contemplate settling the Bert Harris claim in
any manner that would circumvent the public hearing process, the
Land Development Code, or the Growth Management Plan in the
form of granting density or intensity for the subject property, that,
of course, would be extremely detrimental to the association and
its residents and they, of course, would not be supportive of that
option.
We hope the Board will consider continuing to think outside
of the box to identify a solution that could bring the costs down
to Riviera homeowners while still solving the pressing issue of
what will become of the golf course next.
As I mentioned in my letter from yesterday as well and from
an earlier letter back in February of last year, I'd like to reiterate,
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again, that the notice from the property owner for the Bert Harris
claim is deficient for the many reasons we outline, one of which
is the appraisal that was included with the notice doesn't take into
account the open noncompliance matters that Mr. Soderstrom
discussed during his remarks as well, and it's unripe. The owner
hasn't made an application, has only gone through the ITC
process, and hasn't filed for a rezoning relief. So those are just a
few of the reasons why it would be premature to settle in a drastic
way in the form of entitlements as well.
Thank you again for your time.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Thank you, Ms. Berkey.
Commissioner Kowal.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Yeah, thank you, Chair.
I would like to ask staff -- I know we, several meetings back
when we were in the infinite [sic] stages of this, we had directed
or asked Code Enforcement to -- we had a specific person
assigned to that particular golf course and the drainage issues. Is
there anybody on staff that can maybe shed some light on what
Mr. Soderstrum was referring to and where we are in that
process?
MR. FINN: Yes, sir. I'll ask Mr. French to come up here.
My understanding is there is a code enforcement action that
was held in abeyance as part of the negotiated settlement that
we're getting ready to declare null and avoid, but I'll allow
Mr. French to speak on that.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Thank you.
MR. FRENCH: Thank you, Mr. Finn.
I brought some guests with me to talk about the stormwater
piece as well as any of the environmental concerns.
There was an open code case on this property. It has since
been closed. We have been in contact with the property owner
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representative. Code Enforcement's monitoring it. They are
actively mowing it. I believe they're keeping their grass below
18 inches, so that's it at this point.
The swales themselves are not mow-able, so there's no way
we could require them to go in there and maintain those. I know
Ms. Scott is here, and she can address the stormwater concerns as
far as the ditch, but you currently do not have an open code case
on this property, at least that we've found, and I did speak with
your Code Enforcement director that was here earlier. We cut
him free a little too early, I guess, and -- but he is looking into the
matter as well.
MS. SCOTT: For the record, Trinity Scott, Transportation
Management Services Department head.
While the county has been exploring the potential of a
settlement, if you will, and working with the homeowners
association, we have been monitoring the area closely,
particularly through our rainy season or lack thereof rainy season,
really, this year. And we did perform a few areas of
maintenance where the swale previously had been overgrown,
and we had gone in and did some nominal areas of maintenance
to continue to keep the water flowing to the ditch to address
roadway flooding. So we did do that during this time frame; our
road maintenance staff did work on a few items.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Are you done?
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Is it the county's
responsibility to perform those maintenance issues, or is it the
property owners’?
MR. FINN: Sir, that -- it's our view that is the property
owner's responsibility. That has been our consistent view on
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that. As Trinity mentioned, it was authorized in the agreement
for us to do the nominal maintenance, emergency maintenance, if
you will, that was referenced here. So there has been
considerable effort expended on that. Not a ton of funds, but
certainly it's been a key focus area of Trinity's folks.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay. And the other
question, I just wanted a clarification. Basically our
motion -- your motion today is to reject the settlement offer that's
been brought forward?
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Yes.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: And I'd just like to say that's
still my motion, and that once we have a vote, either it's up or
down and we can move on from today, then if we do, depending
on the vote, exit this agreement, I would strongly urge that our
code and our staff get back on monitoring the situation, because I
guess it sounds like we had a little lull in it, depending on how
this outcome was going to come about and, you know, who was
going to pay for what.
So I would strongly recommend if this ends today, that we
get back and have our Code Enforcement and bestly take a look
at these drainage issues in the community.
MR. FINN: Yes, sir, that will happen.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Thank you.
MR. KLATZKOW: The agreement becomes null and void
if the Board does not create a special district.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Correct.
MR. KLATZKOW: And my understanding from your
motion is that that's exactly what we're doing; we are not creating
the special district.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Correct.
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CHAIRMAN HALL: So I have motion not to create this
special district by Commissioner Kowal. We have a second by
Commissioner Saunders. And before we vote, if I could get the
County Attorney -- yesterday in our office, you really gave us
some options, and just -- if you could just reiterate those options
in your words as what we have going forward.
MR. KLATZKOW: Going forward, the ball's -- once the
Board rejects the concept of creating a special district, the ball
goes back into the property owner's court. I don't know what the
property owner's going to do. They may commence a Bert
Harris suit; they may not.
My understanding is the property owner would have to
purchase a couple of the homes to knock them down to create the
access points. At that point in time, we could consider a
possibility of purchasing those homes ourselves to stop that.
But, again, that's speculative at this point in time.
Generally speaking, once a claim is filed, I'm going to be
required to attend mandatory mediation, and there will likely be a
settlement agreement brought to this board. There may be a
recommendation by me for or against, I don't know yet, but that's
the process.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Okay, thank you.
So we have a motion to not create it. We have a second by
Commissioner Saunders. All in favor to not create it, say aye.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: All opposed?
(No response.)
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CHAIRMAN HALL: That's squashed.
MR. FINN: Thank you.
Item #11F
AWARD INVITATION TO BID (“ITB”) NO. 23-
8070RR,“COLLIER COUNTY JAIL (BUILDING J-1) ROOF
REPLACEMENT” PROJECT, TO JR & CO., INC., IN THE
AMOUNT OF $4,307,210, APPROVE OWNER’S ALLOWANCE
OF $326,000, AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE
ATTACHED AGREEMENT, AND AUTHORIZE A BUDGET
AMENDMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $752,441.70 WITHIN THE
COUNTY-WIDE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND. (PROJECT NO.
50229). (JOHN MCCORMICK, DIRECTOR, FACILITIES
MANAGEMENT DIVISION) (DISTRICT 4) MOTION TO
APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL; SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER LOCASTRO – APPROVED
MS. PATTERSON: Commissioners, that brings us to
Item 11F. This is a recommendation to award Invitation to Bid
No. 23-8070RR, Collier County Jail Building J1 roof
replacement project, to JR & Company, Inc., in the amount of
$4,307,210, approve owner's allowance of $326,000, authorize
the Chairman to sign the attached agreement, and authorize a
budget amendment in the amount of $752,441.70 within the
Countywide Capital Projects fund.
Mr. John McCormick, your director of Facilities
Management, is here to present or answer questions.
MR. McCORMICK: Thank you, Ms. Patterson.
Good morning, Commissioners, Chair, Vice Chair.
Congratulations. Happy New Year, everybody. It's going to be
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a busy year in Facilities.
I have two projects teed up today, and I'll be brief. Staff
has prepared some slides if you want to see a little more detail.
But the first one here is a reroof of J1. That's the largest center
section of our jail. It's an 80,000-square-foot roof, give or take.
In our studies, we found that it's -- over 25 percent is
holding water today and actually causing some secondary
damage to the exterior of the building. So we view this as very
critical to move on as fast as we can.
We had several solicitations. I think we have a good group
of bids. JR & Company was the low bidder, and I think they do
a good job for us. They met all the criteria. Again, it's an
edge-to-edge type of roof. In the past, sometimes we've made
the mistake of reroofing without getting the full warranty, all
penetrations, all copings, all counterflashings. So if there's any
problem for 20 years, the manufacturer backs it up. So I think
we've got a good system coming.
So with that, I could answer any more questions, or I could
go to the presentation if you'd like to see it.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner LoCastro.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: I'd just like to know how
old is this current roof that needs replacement. Did we get full
use -- you know, full life expectancy out of it, or was it not a
great job? I mean, please tell me it's 20 years old.
MR. McCORMICK: It's not 20, but part of the problem is,
quite frankly, the maintenance of the roof. The -- we've allowed
access to it for years, and people go up on the roof and do things
they shouldn't do. Non-roofers do some things. And that, I
think, initiated a lot of the leaks initially. Irma damaged it,
damaged the exterior, and then Ian didn't help it at all.
So I really can't fault the workmanship, per se. But if you
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don't get an edge-to-edge warranty, there's a loophole in a lot of
the roofing warranties, and if water enters, let's say, the coping,
it's not covered, and you own the leak no matter where it's at.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Do you know about,
though, what the age is of that roof?
MR. McCORMICK: I think it's -- help me out. It was
before my time, but I think 15 years. Does that sound right?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE VOICE: I had it at 20.
MR. McCORMICK: You did have it at 20, okay.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Did we make minor
repairs after Ian and Irma to the roof, or it just got worse?
MR. McCORMICK: It's gotten worse, but we've been
chasing leaks. And what we found is -- we did a scan of the roof
and, like I said, it's holding water. So it's like a -- it's a sneaky
leak, you know what I'm saying? If it holds water, it will leak
later on, and it's not necessarily that noticeable.
So we know that has to be torn off. It's a light-weight
concrete deck. It's going to have to be repoured. It's a flat roof,
which makes it -- this is going to be a complicated reroof.
There's multiple penetrations up there which led to some of the
unfortunate maintenance of the roof because the screws and
things got dropped and cut in the roof, things like that. There's
70 exhaust fans up there, 70. So it's going to be a very difficult
job. We'll do it in stages. We have to work around, of course,
the hurricane season and all that. So -- but it -- we just finished
J2, and that was a little bit easier, even though we had some
difficulties there, but that was a sloped roof. But when you're
dealing with a reroof, a tear-off on a flat roof, it's very difficult.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I'll make a motion for
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approval.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: I second it.
CHAIRMAN HALL: We have a motion and a second to
approve the agenda item. All in favor, say aye.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: All opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN HALL: Motion passes.
MR. McCORMICK: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Thank you, Mr. McCormick.
MR. McCORMICK: Thank you.
Item #11G
THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE (“GMP”) FIRST
AMENDMENT TO AGREEMENT NO. 21-7883-ST,
CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AT RISK (“CMAR”)
CONTRACT, WITH O-A-K/FLORIDA, INC., D/B/A OWEN-
AMES-KIMBALL COMPANY, FOR CONSTRUCTION
SERVICES FOR THE MAIN CAMPUS UPGRADES IN THE
AMOUNT OF $17,648,689.97, AND AUTHORIZE THE
CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE ATTACHED AMENDMENT AND
APPROVE THE NECESSARY BUDGET AMENDMENTS (FUND
(3018), PROJECT NOS. 50214, 50189 AND 50184). (JOHN
MCCORMICK, DIRECTOR, FACILITIES MANAGEMENT
DIVISION) (DISTRICT 4) - MOTION TO APPROVE BY
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL; SECONDED BY
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COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS - APPROVED
MS. PATTERSON: All right, John, we'll start with the next
one. Item 11G is a recommendation to approve the guaranteed
maximum price first amendment to Agreement No. 21-7883-ST,
Construction Management at Risk contract with the O-A-K
Florida, Inc., doing business as Owen-Ames-Kimball Company,
construction services for the main campus upgrades in the
amount of $17,648,689.97, and authorize the Chairman to sign
the attached amendment, and approve the necessary budget
amendments.
And, again, Mr. John McCormick is here to answer
questions and/or present.
MR. McCORMICK: Thank you. Again, for the record,
John McCormick, your facilities director.
Again, this chiller plant, critical to our operations. Our
existing plant is hanging on by a thread. Quite frankly, we have
a rental chiller plugged in right now because we can't keep up.
The degradation of the existing chillers in the cooling towers are
such that -- and this has been on my radar for years, and -- but I
think we have a good system proposed.
We're going to harden and upgrade the existing building.
It's really Building K, our chiller plant. It's right outside my
window. So we're doing that, and we're adding two 2.5 meg
generators; one for the jail, which they appreciate, and one for the
chiller plant.
Right now our generator, it's a small one, cannot operate all
the chillers. It can operate one. This one will allow it to
operate all of them.
In addition, we're doubling the size of the chiller plant
capacity. So we're building in redundancy and, you know, a lot
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of maintenance capability where we can shut a couple down and
work on them rather than cutting into the capacity of the output
of the chillers.
The energy savings of this could be phenomenal. The idea
is, is we are going to manufacture and store chilled water. So
our chillers will run at night. That takes our peak energy way
down during the most -- during the center -- during the middle of
the day. And so we're basically going to run the chillers at night
making chilled water, about a million and a half gallons.
Now, the landscape's going to change a little bit because we
have to build a chilled water tank. I don't know if you've been
around our school system, been we've been consulting with them
over the last few years. They've had a lot of luck with the same
system. They have a storage tank that they make -- do the same
thing, and they save a lot of money. Not just electric but, quite
frankly, we'll save about $100,000 just in water usage because
we're going to an air-cooled system rather than the cooling towers
that's up on the roof now.
And we evaporate about 58,000 gallons a day during the
summer, a lot of water. Now, we use IQ water, so it's still
cheaper, but -- if it was domestic, it would be a lot higher. But
we just checked the bills again.
So we have a lot of opportunity for savings. FPL will step
up to the plate after we get the system online, and they're
anticipating about a million and a half rebate to us because we're
helping them lower their peak demand. And, quite frankly, it's
going to give us a lot of flexibility.
So at the same time, we've kind of combined, if you read the
read-out, the -- we've got three projects: The generators, the
chiller plant, and the piping mains that are buried. Right now we
have, believe it or not, glued joints back there. They're 40 years
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old. We've had a couple blowouts over the last few years, and
that's where this whole thing started.
So we're putting in fusion-welded pipe. So -- in other
words, no leaks. It's kind of what you see, like, at the gas lines
where they actually melt the piping together. The big mains are
all going to be replaced in the parking lot, and we'll get a new
parking lot out of this as well.
So we're pretty excited about it. This is what keeps me up
at night. Hemantha, our HVAC superintendent, I know, spends
a lot of time keeping this plant running. So it's very much
needed, and -- but like I said, the only thing that you're going to
notice is an upgrade of the Building K architecturally, so it will
clean that corner up. It's a dirty corner. We've got those ice
tanks out there; they don't look good.
But we are going to have one big tank out there that's going
to be -- have a Collier logo on it, and we've got the room for it.
It's not going to be up at the front of the road. It's going to be set
back. But it's roughly about 65-foot diameter and 65-foot high.
And it's in the presentation. I don't know if you guys had a
chance to look at it all, but that's pretty accurate, if you want to
look at that.
But, again, I think it's going to be a win-win. Again,
another difficult project. You know, I have to keep the existing
plant up and running as they change this out. So we preordered
the chillers and the switch gear and the generators. The chillers
were supposed to arrive end of this month. They got delayed till
the end of March. But we intend to use them as temporary
chillers while we decommission the existing chiller plant.
So, again, it's going to be a difficult install, but I think we
have a good plan. So I'd really appreciate your recommendation
to award this. And I think we've got a good team. O-A-K is a
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good CMAR contractor, and they've added a lot to our plan.
So with that, I'll turn it over to any questions that you might
have.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yeah. Well, I want to
remind us that it's our job to make sure that John gets some sleep,
so I'm going to make a motion for approval.
MR. McCORMICK: I appreciate that.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I'll second that,
Mr. Chairman.
CHAIRMAN HALL: I have a motion by Commissioner
McDaniel, second by Commissioner Saunders. All in favor, say
aye.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Okay. Good job, John.
MR. McCORMICK: Thank you. Thank you so much.
CHAIRMAN HALL: I think about that stuff at night, too.
I just want you to know.
Item #11H
ESTABLISHING A POLICY FOR LEASING A COUNTY-
OWNED MOBILE HOME AT THE PARADISE COAST SPORTS
COMPLEX TO LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS FOR
GREATER ONSITE LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENCE, ADOPT
A STANDARD LEASE TEMPLATE, AND AUTHORIZE THE
COUNTY MANAGER OR THEIR DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE
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SUCH LEASES. (DISTRICT 3)- MOTION TO APPROVE
W/CHANGES BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL; SECONDED
BY COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS – APPROVED
MS. PATTERSON: Commissioners, that brings us to
Item 11H, formerly Item 16F6. This item was continued from
the December 12th, 2023, BCC meeting. This is a
recommendation to establish a policy for leasing a county-owned
mobile home at the Paradise Coast Sports Complex to law
enforcement officers for greater on-site law enforcement
presence, adopt a standard lease template, and authorize the
County Manager or their designees to execute such leases.
This comes to the regular agenda at Commissioner
McDaniel's request.
CHAIRMAN HALL: You're on, sir.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Thank you. Short and
sweet. I'm really happy with the adjustments that our staff made
from last meeting to this. I want one clarification or one
adjustment. In the executive summary, it talks about -- the last
sentence is what triggered me to pull this. It has to do with "if
this item is approved, leases using approved template will be
administratively processed and executed by the County Manager
or designee." I want that stricken. And I'm -- I
don't -- every -- if we're going to have -- the rationale is if we're
going to have a discussion with a commonalty of our lease
arrangements, we need to have that discussion globally, not
individually with regard to this particular asset.
So if we can just strike that portion of it, if we do choose at
some stage to come up with a template that everyone's happy
with, then I'll bring forward a separate item, and we'll have that
discussion. But I'm going to move for approval with that
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sentence being stricken.
MR. FINN: And if I may, Mr. Chair.
Yes, sir. Consider it done. The standard form agreement
will be changed from "the County Manager or her designee" to
"the Board Chairman." Accordingly, we would amend the
recommendation on that executive summary to reflect the
Chairman approving the agreement you're looking at today. So
we are seeking approval of that agreement with that modification.
Thank you, sir.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner Saunders.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Thank you.
So this would be for one officer. It's a big park. I'm
wondering if we should have more than one officer resident
there.
MR. FINN: And I think when we look at the overall site
plan, I think there was a concept of having a secondary site. At
the moment, we're using our security team at the facility as well
at night. So we will continue to monitor the situation and get the
right level of staffing out there to ensure the safety of the facility.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Okay. Well, I
understand what you just said. I think my desire would be for
you to look at, fairly quickly, having two or three as opposed to
just one. If you've got a detail out there that you're paying
overtime for at night, that can be replaced with someone living on
the site.
MR. FINN: Certainly.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: It seems to me that
having two or three --
MR. FINN: We'll look into it. Very good.
CHAIRMAN HALL: All right. We have a motion and a
second. All in favor to approve, say aye.
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COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
MR. FINN: Thank you, sir.
Item #11I
ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED CHANGE ORDER NO.11,
PROVIDING FOR A 180-DAY EXTENSION UNDER
AGREEMENT NO. 16-6622, “BIG CORKSCREW ISLAND
REGIONAL PARK,” WITH Q. GRADY MINOR & ASSOCIATES,
P.A., AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE
ATTACHED CHANGE ORDER. (PROJECT NO.80039)
(DISTRICT 5) - MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER
MCDANIEL; SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HALL –
APPROVED
MS. PATTERSON: Commissioners, that brings us to
Item 11I. This is formerly Item 16F9. This is a
recommendation to approve -- administratively approve Change
Order No. 11 providing for a 180-day extension under Agreement
No. 16-6622, Big Corkscrew Island Regional Park, with Q.
Grady Minor & Associates, P.A., and authorize the Chairman to
sign the attached change order.
Mr. Tony Barone is here to answer questions. This was
brought to the agenda by Commissioner McDaniel's request.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner McDaniel.
MR. BARONE: Good day again. For the record, Tony
Barone, principal project manager, Facilities Management.
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COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And, Tony, you're doing
a really good job, just to say it out loud.
I brought this item forward only as a -- I'm going to make a
motion for approval, just so you know. But what I would like to
see is -- on future agenda items I would like a more descriptive
delineation of contractual arrangements that we enter into. I
want to see the beginning agreement and its term and price, and
then I want -- every time -- this is Change Order 11 on,
perceptively, an original three- to four-year contract, and we
have, per what I've -- I was able to -- I don't often -- I'll admit, I
don't oftentimes review the Clerk notes. But I did on this
particular instance, because it's close to home.
But there's 100 and -- or 855 days that have been added to
this contract from its original term, which then you add it to the
original term that was there, we're pushing an excessive length of
time.
Oftentimes, these change orders come to us piecemeal from
contracts that previous boards have entered into, let alone us.
And so my request is -- I'm going to make a motion for approval,
but my request is going forward we have specificity. I want the
original contract, price and terms, then I want to see every single
time there's a change order, price or terms, with regard to term
length and such. I want to see that delineated in the executive
summary.
We blow through -- we don't blow through these agendas.
We read these agendas. But it's -- I don't have the necessary
detail to go back all of the time and look at those specifics from
the beginning.
So with that, I'll move for approval.
CHAIRMAN HALL: I'll second it with the -- and concur
with Commissioner McDaniel's request. It's so helpful to have
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the details because all of these things, after you read 900 of them,
they run together. And I don't want to just miss something
because I'm just assuming something, so that will be great.
So we have a motion to approve by Commissioner
McDaniel. I've second it. All in favor, say aye.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Motion carries.
MR. BARONE: Thank you, Commissioners.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Thank you.
Item #11J
THE EXPENDITURE OF THE TOURISM DEVELOPMENT TAX
PROMOTION FUNDS TO SUPPORT THE NOVEMBER 2023
DORAL GOLD CUP EVENT UP TO $12,000; TO WAIVE ANY
IRREGULARITIES IN THE PROCESS FOR ITEMS INCLUDING
LACK OF WRITTEN APPROVAL, PRE-APPROVAL OR TDC
AND BOARD APPROVAL: AND MAKE A FINDING THAT
THESE EXPENDITURES PROMOTE TOURISM. (ALL
DISTRICTS) - MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER
HALL; SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL
MS. PATTERSON: Commissioners, that brings us to
Item 11J. This is formerly Item 16F3. This is a
recommendation to approve the expenditure of the Tourism
Development Tax Promotion funds to support the
November 2023 Doral Cup -- Gold Cup event up to $12,000, to
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waive any irregularities in the process for items including lack of
written approval, pre-approval, or TDC and Board approval, and
make a finding that these expenditures promote tourism.
We have Ms. Sandra Rios from our tourism division who is
here to answer questions. This item is brought to the agenda by
Commissioner Hall's request.
MS. RIOS: Thank you. Welcome, Commissioner Hall,
and Happy New Year to everybody.
I want to speak a little bit to the relevance of sports tourism
prior to talking about this specific request. The tourism division
is responsible for driving overnight visitation to the county, thus
generating the 5 percent development tax that is applied to our
hotel stays.
In addition to beach renourishment, museums, maintaining
beach park facilities, the tax should also be applied to capital
projects such as the PCSC, or a percentage of them.
Tourism generated $2.8 billion in economic impact for
Collier County last year, and Fiscal Year 2023 TDT collections
were $44 million.
Sports tourism is the fastest segment of the tourism industry
currently. It generates about $91.8 billion annually and supports
635,000 jobs across member communities nationally.
Not only do we focus on PCSC and pickleball, we also put
marketing muscle behind promotion of our over 90 public/private
golf courses, are proud to host three major national golf
tournaments annually, one of which includes a First Tee event.
First Tee is an organization that promotes youth sports and
sportsmanship.
Outdoor activities are highly sought after by our visitors, so
there's a great -- so this and the subsequent motion are great
additions to an already robust lineup of outdoor offerings:
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Fishing, golf, hiking, birding, biking, and boating.
The Paradise Sports Complex came under the jurisdiction of
the tourism division in January of 2023. It was built with the
specific intent to promote sports tourism to our destination. We
have had a sports grant program in place at the CVB since 2010.
The tourism development tax must be allocated to certain
items, one of which is to support the professional sports facility
debt and amateur sports. Large amateur sporting events are
fundamental to the programming and success of the PCSC. It
drives people to the destination incrementally but, more
importantly, during our shoulder periods for our hoteliers. It
generates brand awareness for the destination through
regional/national media placements. It generates economic
impact both directly and indirectly, not only on the weekend of
the tournament or the event, but has the potential for return
visitation to the destination.
Sports is another revenue-generating channel for tourism,
similar to our marketing efforts towards our leisure travelers,
both international and domestic, and our corporate meetings and
business traveler. Sports promoters have the option of multiple
destinations to bring their events to. It's a highly competitive
market, especially here in Florida between Orlando, Tampa,
Miami, and Sarasota, and Collier County is definitely one of the
more if not the most expensive destination to come to due to our
high ADR.
So we need to compete for this business. Offering
incentives is one way to help offset that. A promoter's goal is to
maximize participation, and incentives help to achieve that.
Another way is the selection of the types of events that we
bring in, ones that can afford our high daily rates, such as
lacrosse, soccer, and well-established events.
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We also look at the opportunities to fill those hotel rooms in
the shoulder seasons, which are typically April through June and
September and November, so the spring and the fall. And sports
is an excellent way to do that, keep our hotels full and our
residents employed.
Now, there are requirements. They must meet a minimum
threshold of 250 room nights, and that is required for
reimbursement. Funding for the expenditure is available within
the Tourist Promotion Fund and in the tourism Fiscal Year '24
budget. We currently have $72,500 allocated, and currently zero
of those funds are committed.
Sports tourism allows us to market the destination through
the channels of the promoters also to national audiences which
we might not necessarily reach through our regular advertising
campaigns.
So speaking to the specific event, the Doral Cup, this event
was hosted at Paradise Sports Complex in North Collier Regional
Park between November 4th through 5th, so the shoulder season.
It brought in 855 room nights, over 1,900 athletes, and over 4,400
spectators. Bringing events to Collier County for over 10 years,
such as Labor Day Cup, Memorial Day Cup, and the Dimitri Cup
between 2003 and 2019, which brought in over 350 teams over
three weekends.
July '22, Doral Cup received approval up to the $12,000
request for its November '22 event, but it was canceled due to
Hurricane Ian. This promoter returned in 2023 to host the event.
It was recommended 7-0 for approval by the TDC.
The direct economic impact was $1,449,000. The total
impact was $2,482,000. The TDT revenue was 21,000, and the
room nights from this event were 855.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Thank you so much.
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MS. RIOS: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN HALL: So I brought this -- I pulled these
three items because they're all similar. And I didn't pull them
because I don't like them. I just pulled them because I want to
have a healthy discussion about the way things -- that we've
always done things versus the way that we could do things.
And I don't doubt -- I don't doubt the numbers are real. I
don't doubt any of that. But I guess my thoughts were, if
somebody's coming for -- this is the sixth year in a row they've
used our facilities. They love our location. They've had great
turnouts. They've had great success in their previous years.
And for us to continue just to think that we need to give them
$12,000 a year to get them to return, I don't think that's true.
I think that in the beginning the seed money was brilliant.
You know, when you have facilities like the sports complex and
people don't know about them, to offer seed money to get them to
come and experience it and have a good -- have a good
experience, that's money well spent. And I'm not saying that it's
not money well spent. But let's just say that all of those
numbers, all of those hotel rooms, all of the tax dollars, I'm
thinking that most of that's going to come anyway
without -- without having to do the marketing for them.
In a discussion yesterday with staff, they said, you know, the
hoteliers love this because they get their rooms filled. And I'm
thinking, well, yeah, they do. They're going to get their rooms
filled anyway. The Doral Cup's going to happen. People are
going to come. There was 1,400 people in this one particular
thing. And so I'm thinking, you know, who's not coming
because the promoter didn't get 12 grand? All of the people
playing the sports, they're coming. All of the parents, they're
coming. They're not getting reimbursed, but the promoter is.
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And I'm not trying to sell a thing. I'm just -- when I saw
this and then -- an agenda item, and the next one, F4, we're
budgeting $72,000 a year, or we've got $72,000 a year to pay
people to come here.
And the last one, I might as well just include it, the
pickleball, the U.S. Open. And they're wanting us to approve
another five-year contract to give them $345,000 as a -- as a
sponsor.
This is a marquee event for them. They're hook, line, and
sinker. They love coming here. Our facilities in East Naples
are world class, and they have a world-class event. They have
Sports TV. I mean, it's a big deal.
So for us to continue to feel like we need to give them
$345,000 every year for the next five year, that's 1.7 -- a little
over 1.7 million bucks. I just want to talk about it.
So, Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes. So first of all, let's
take a bite of the apple on the agenda item that we're on --
CHAIRMAN HALL: Okay.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: -- on this $12,000
reimbursement. This was an event that didn't go over because of
Hurricane Ian. It was previously --
CHAIRMAN HALL: Sure.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: -- approved. It was
verbally approved, necessarily, outside of sorts by the previous
executive director. So I -- I don't disagree with you that we need
to have a healthy discussion at some stage, but I'd like to go
ahead and approve this one and get it approved, and then we'll get
to that third one that you were talking about there in your spiel.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Yeah. I'm not trying to talk you out
of --
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COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: No.
CHAIRMAN HALL: -- approving it. I just want --
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Oh, I understand where
you're going.
CHAIRMAN HALL: So I'll make a motion to approve
Agenda Item 16F3, which is the Doral, the 12 grand, since it was
committed.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And I'll second that. I
made that motion, but I'm good with you taking it.
CHAIRMAN HALL: So we have a motion and second.
All in favor to approve, say aye.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: And then that moves us to 16F4.
Item #11K
THE EXPENDITURE OF THE TOURISM DEVELOPMENT TAX
PROMOTION FUNDS TO SUPPORT THE OCTOBER 2023
ADVERTISING WORLD SERIES EVENT, UP TO $5,000, TO
WAIVE ANY IRREGULARITIES IN THE PROCESS FOR ITEMS,
INCLUDING LACK OF WRITTEN APPROVAL, PRE-
APPROVAL OR TDC AND BOARD APPROVAL; AND MAKE A
FINDING THAT THESE EXPENDITURES PROMOTE
TOURISM. (ALL DISTRICTS)- MOTION TO APPROVE BY
COMMISSIONER HALL; SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
KOWAL - APPROVED
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MS. PATTERSON: It does. That brings us to 11K,
formerly 16F4. This is a recommendation to approve the
expenditure of the Tourism Development Tax Promotion funds to
support the October 2023 Advertising World Series Event up to
$5,000, to waive any irregularities in the process for items
including lack of written approval, pre-approval, or TDC and
Board approval, and make a finding that these expenditures
promote tourism.
Again, this item is brought to the agenda at Commissioner
Hall's request. Commissioner.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Yeah, same thing. Same principle,
just a -- just a different animal.
Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I didn't unlight.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Okay. Commissioner LoCastro.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: So we spoke yesterday,
now that I'm going to be the commissioner chair of the TDC
taking over from Commissioner McDaniel.
Part of what we've all been talking about -- and we had this
conversation yesterday -- and it's summarizing what
Commissioner Hall is basically saying for all of us is, we want to
wean some of these organizations off of this. They always get
$12,000 to buy a cheese tray or to be reimbursed for something.
You know, when we were talking about the JW Marriott, that's
the example I was using of a function, and we might remember
that discussion. And it was like, wow, they bring a big group
here and, you know, we always give them money to sort of offset
some things.
And I liked what you had to say. Now that we have -- the
TDC director position is vacant and we're aggressively looking to
fill it, I was really impressed by you and your colleague in my
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office and about how, you know, you're not just waiting for that
new person to come, that you learned some things, good and bad.
You've heard some of the things that we've said, but I think our
overall message is no more automatic checks. I mean, you
know, we want to be proud of an organization that took our
50,000, then our 30,000, then our 20,000, then our 10,000, and
now they're self-sufficient.
And it's not to then put that money just, like, back in a
corner somewhere. It allows us to re-purpose it for maybe
another organization that has been asking for money for three
years, but, you know, the coffers were empty or maybe their
event has grown and they didn't need any money from us, but
now they're asking for another 10,000.
And so I liked what you-all had to say. And as the
commissioner that will now sit on the TDC, much like the way
Commissioner McDaniel did, I'm going to be reporting back
here, you know, at our meetings the major takeaways.
But I think that's what we're looking for. And it's similar to
the conversation we had about the grants, you know, for all these
art and museums and different things, you know, where we're
really proud as a county to support those things, but it's not just
an automatic. And you all agreed.
I like the aggressive -- the more aggressive application
process now, that you don't just, you know, put something on the
back of a cocktail napkin and say, you know, give us the 50
grand as always.
So we're headed in the right direction, but I think you're
hearing our message here which is, hey, we're not trying to, like,
not approve this, but we want to make sure somebody's really
taking a look at it, and is this a nice to do or is it a must do?
And as Commissioner Hall said, they've been here for like
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six years. They haven't figured out how to absorb that 12,000 on
their own so we can give it to somebody new? And if not, then
we just want to know that rationale as to why not. You know,
nobody's trying to shoot down the event, but, you know, I'll have
more to report, you know, from our TDC meetings, and I like
what we had -- what we talked about yesterday, for sure.
I think you-all got the message loud and clear, and not only
got the message, but you -- we were paddling in the same
direction. You-all agree with that as well, and it's -- it's so we
can better utilize the funds and we're not just giving out money
that people aren't proving that they need or that they haven't
worked as hard to try to get funds from another direction so that
they can wean themselves off of county or TDC money.
So thank you. I appreciated the conversation yesterday.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And I concur. I know
that, you know, a portion of the revenues that we generate with
the TDT are for reinvestment back into advertising and so on and
forth to theoretically, then, generate more money, but I also know
we -- in other events, we've had a weaning process. We did it
with the East Naples -- the Collier County -- the rodeo bunch that
was coming to the fairgrounds out there. We seed -- we seeded
it in, and then we moved them to another level, and then -- and
now another level.
So I think maybe that as a premise of discussion with how
we're going to handle these events going forward can be added
into the mix, and we're not just rubber stamping, giving -- you
know, giving these monies the way that we are.
CHAIRMAN HALL: All right. So with that, I'll make a
motion to approve pending that discussion, this agenda item.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Second.
CHAIRMAN HALL: So we have a motion to approve and
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a second by Commissioner Kowal. All in favor, say aye.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Great. Thanks.
MS. RIOS: Thank you very much for that.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Thank you.
Item #11L
THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE SECOND EXTENSION
AND AMENDMENT TO THE SPONSORSHIP AGREEMENT
BETWEEN COLLIER COUNTY AND SPIRIT PROMOTIONS
FOR THE 2025-2029 U.S. OPEN PICKLEBALL
CHAMPIONSHIPS AND MAKE A FINDING THAT THIS ITEM
PROMOTES TOURISM. (ALL DISTRICTS) - MOTION TO
CHANGE THE AGREEMENT TO A ONE-YEAR TERM, DIRECT
STAFF TO WORK ON THE LANGUAGE AND BRING BACK TO
A FUTURE MEETING BY COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS;
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL – APPROVED
MS. PATTERSON: Commissioners, that brings us to Item
11L, formerly 16F10. This is a recommendation to approve and
authorize the Chairman to execute the second extension and
amendment to the sponsorship agreement between Collier
County and Spirit Promotions for the 2025 through 2029 U.S.
Open Pickleball Championships and make a finding that this item
promotes tourism. Again, this item is moved to the regular
agenda at Commissioner Hall's request.
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CHAIRMAN HALL: So we have the same -- same
principle here. When I look at what we have here in Collier
County as far as a facility, we have a world-class location that's
not a secret any longer. We have world-class facilities from the
sports complex to the pickleball place to North Collier Regional.
Everything you do -- we have is first class, and people are
coming here, and they're using our stuff. So I'm just questioning
the wisdom in continuing -- another five years is another
$1.72 million.
So I don't know if we want to entertain doing a portion of
that, doing it for a year and then relook -- retaking a look at this,
or what we want to do. But when I'm -- I was telling staff
yesterday, the biggest risk that we have by not doing it is
assuming that they won't come back. And from years and years
and years in real estate, when I had a home to sell, when I had a
couple walk in my house, and the third time I heard the wife say,
oh, honey, this is amazing. Oh, honey, we could put the kids in
this room. Oh, honey, look at the storage here. We could
put -- the third time I heard that, I knew they were emotionally in.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Cha-ching.
CHAIRMAN HALL: So when they asked me to cut my
price by 100 grand, I said, respectfully, no thank you. This is the
price, and we got it.
On the other side, when I had a home that I knew had some
flaws to it, and I knew that it needed some repairs, and I was
letting the buyer figure those out, and when they come in and
they say, this is wrong and that's wrong, and this is wrong and
that's wrong, this is going to cost us, you know, 100 grand to fix
it, and they offered me $100,000 lower, I knew that they were
right. So instead of me having to spend my 100 grand, I used
theirs and accepted the offer to sell the property.
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So I use that example because we have an "oh, honey"
location. People love coming here. They come year after year.
They bring their friends; they bring their family; they stay a little
longer.
And so for us to maybe use those TDT funds in that manner,
that's what I wanted to -- I just want to talk about, so I'm open to
any discussion.
Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yeah. Thank you,
Chair.
I agree with what it is that you're saying. I would like to
have more emphasis on our actual revenue generated, not an
estimate of external revenues that are generated because of an
event.
It's hard -- you know, we pay 345,000. It's estimated we
collect 168,000 in TDT tax. Those are real numbers. Those are
theoretically real numbers that I can attach to. But when it's
correlated over to a very voluminous revenue stream that's
generated outside of that -- and we all know there's ancillary
business. We've seen that with our Paradise Coast park. The
restaurants and hotels up and down 951 there all benefit from
those events that we have.
I'd like a little tighter correlation between what we're
expending and what we're actually receiving.
I mentioned to staff yesterday when I was talking about
this -- and this is something for the new member of the TDC to
take into consideration and you folks to hear probably maybe for
the first time. I've been an advocate -- I was an advocate last
year for appropriation of TDT funds towards TDT revenue
generators, people who generate tourist development tax, to assist
with their housing offset for their employees: The people that
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mow their grass, that make their beds, that cook the food, and so
on and so forth. That, I learned, is going to require a statutory
amendment to the TDT tax statute. We're working on that.
There is an amendment that's already in place that allows for
capital reimbursement of TDT money for sidewalks and other
capital expenditures the government's put out if it's deemed to
have generated tourism.
And how many millions of dollars have we spent on this
park? Not that it didn't need it in the first place. But, I
mean -- so I would like for us to be exploring reimbursement of
taxpayer money into our parks and rec system because we have a
phenomenal park and rec system. And I would like to see and
have it explored as to the utilization of those funds coming back
to the General Fund as a portion or a proportionate share of those
capital expenses. We need to make the investment in our park
system because that's what we do, but they also -- we also do
generate TDT dollars.
And to my knowledge, short of specific items when we
dredge Clam Pass every couple of years and deem it to be a
tourist generator, we don't reimburse or get paid out of the TDT
funds. So along the lines of what you're talking about, that was
my discussion, my thought processes with this.
I'd like to see if some of those monies can be appropriated
back into our General Fund from -- because you mentioned it at
the beginning of your presentation about capital projects.
So I'd like to see that become an emphasis.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner LoCastro.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Mike Dee is here, who's
sort of Mr. Pickleball. And I don't think he needs to necessarily
take the podium, but we had a conversation yesterday, and it was
along very similar lines. You know, we'd like to see -- you
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know, we're all proud of the pickleball operation and what it
brings here and what it generates and everything, but, you know,
we'd like to see them start to be a little bit more self-sufficient
and wean some things off.
And he actually gave me a list of some things that they've
started to pay for that the county used to. And so my direction to
him was, don't be shy about not -- you know, make sure you're
telling us about that. So, you know, getting a few minutes at the
podium every so often when there's a commissioner -- a BCC
meeting to give us an update on the partnership, the better
partnership, and not so much, you know, here's our bill, and you
should be thankful that we're bringing this incredible pickleball
event here.
And you weren't saying that. But I liked hearing, hey, we're
now paying for the bleachers. We're now paying for this.
We're not up here saying, you know, we want to go from giving
you this much money to zero, but we want to -- we want to wean
off.
And every little bit helps. You paying for $30,000 worth of
bleachers instead of the taxpayers, that's real money. You know,
we're sitting up here talking for 30 minutes over $12,000. And
so I liked what we said -- or what we talked about.
And, you know, like I told you, don't -- you don't need an
invitation for us to come to a BCC meeting and say, hey, I just
want to give you an overview of, you know, a big pickleball
event that's coming up, how we're cost sharing, you know, some
things that we maybe hadn't done in the past. That's what we
want to hear.
And I think we're looking for proactive measures, not so
much us being directive going, why are we paying this 12,000?
But you-all coming forward and going, don't need the 12,000
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anymore, only need 4-, and the 4- that we needed for the other
organization, it's now zero. That would be impressive to us.
And so, you know, just take that as sort of not necessarily a
homework assignment but just, you know, good healthy
discussion. And, you know, you never need an invitation to
come here to give us an update on how you're better helping us
better utilize taxpayer dollars. So -- oh, you bring Mike to the
podium. He'll speak for 20 minutes. He'll speak for 20 minutes
on pickleball.
MR. DEE: I'll be brief. I had prepared remarks that I
won't use.
But first of all, it's an honor to be here today. And
congratulations, Mr. Chair and Commissioners.
You know, this -- what's before you today is the culmination
of a year's worth of dialogue with County Manager Patterson and
then on to Deputy County Manager Rodriguez. And a shout out
to John and Sandra who have done yeoman's work stepping in for
a vacant chair at the director level of TDC.
We've also spent considerable time with Olema Edwards
and with James Hanrahan and Parks and Rec learning. We're the
new owners as of the end of last year, and just trying to
understand what's important to county staff.
And one of the things we heard earlier on from County
Manager Patterson was that we need to do a better job as the new
stewards of this premium event and listening to county staff, and
oftentimes their voices weren't heard. So we tried to do that.
We also came with a plan that I think is very consistent with
some of the comments on the dais this morning which is, you
know, long term we have a bigger vision for this event and for
pickleball and the park and a private/public partnership, continue
to invest in the facility. As good as it is, there's shinier, bigger
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new toys being constructed around the country sometimes right
here in the state of Florida. Look only across Alligator Alley at
Fort Lauderdale. That's the latest one announced.
So we need to be able to stay competitive, and we don't see
that burden being solely on the county shoulders to continue to
invest.
The bottom line is that facility serves a lot of your
constituents day in and day out throughout the year. They need
to have a great experience, and the U.S. Open is a signature
event, not just here in Southwest Florida, not just in Florida, but
nationally. And we want to continue to keep it that way.
So this item today -- and I think, Mr. Chairman, it's right on
point with your comments. We don't want to be a long-term just
receiver. We want to be an investor. We come with our
checkbook, and we look at a private/public partnership long term
as a way to maintain the prominent role that Collier County has
in the pickleball landscape across the country.
So I think we decided, collectively, with the manager's
office and with Deputy Manager Rodriguez, that that was a
bridge too far to do in the first 12 months of us arriving in town,
and that this item was to buy us a little time for you to get to
know us better and know that we just don't talk the talk but that
we walk the walk and that we're going to, you know, deliver on
the promises that we make and that we're going to continue to
invest.
And just one last point: We don't view these marketing
dollars as just a contribution or a donation. Those dollars are put
to work to market the event. You're right to say that people love
coming back over and over again, but our lottery starts this week.
And every year is a new year, and very few of the attendees are
the same year in and year out. They're new attendees every year.
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So, you know, the 10 hours of national broadcast time that
we use these proceeds to buy -- they don't give them to us.
We're not making money from those. We have to go out and
buy national TV time. We pay for production. The county gets
great exposure and visibility not just with commercial time but
throughout the broadcast.
And, you know, we do other events around the country as
well, and we're proud to give the county exposure in those events
as we did in 2023. So there is a quid for the quo, if you will, on
the market investment --
CHAIRMAN HALL: Sure.
MR. DEE: -- and it's not just, hey, thank you for your
check, we'll see you next year. But all that said, I think our
long-term goal is to wean off of this and continue to invest in the
park and make this a private enterprise that you can all be proud
of.
CHAIRMAN HALL: I like it.
MR. DEE: So that's the spirit in which we come.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Thank you, Mike.
I'll make a comment, and then I'll go to Commissioner
McDaniel, and then Commissioner LoCastro.
That's music to my ears. I think you've heard our -- I'm
glad you were here, because I didn't -- I didn't want to sound like
I'm this squasher. I just -- I'm glad you got to hear the heart
about it. We just want to be good stewards of taxpayers' money.
And it's not like we're trying to run anybody off or trying not
to -- you know, be stingy, but we're just trying to be good
stewards.
And so, Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And by the way, it's
pickleball, not squash. Squash.
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CHAIRMAN HALL: Yeah. Squash the pickleball.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And I have a question for
you, and that is the premise of weaning is nice, but we're entering
into a five-year agreement that we have been -- as what we have
been doing for the previous term. And so your concerns with
regard to the term of the agreement, have they been addressed
satisfactorily?
CHAIRMAN HALL: Yes. I'm going to make a motion
that we do it for one year and then have those talks.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Oh. And are they okay
with that?
CHAIRMAN HALL: I don't know.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay. Because that was
my question to you.
CHAIRMAN HALL: That's what I'm thinking.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay.
CHAIRMAN HALL: They get --
MR. DEE: I'll just -- one thing in response to the five-year
commitment of the marketing funds. The marketing terms and
the collaboration that goes with the TDC and their third-party ad
agency is subject to an annual review. So it's -- the way we read
the agreement, it's not, you know, fait accompli every year. We
have to come to the table and deliver real marketing assets that
are attractive to the county. And I believe the TDC has the
ability to say that, hey, we don't think we're getting the benefit of
the bargain for what this investment is. And so it's kind of like a
year-to-year contract from our point of view. We believe there
are ways to revisit it every year, and it's subject to an annual
review.
So our preference would be -- if you read the agreement the
same way, would be to do the five-year deal and know that we're
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held accountable every year to deliver on value that is prescribed
in the agreement.
Just one other note -- I think Vice Chair Clark Hill said it at
the TDC meeting -- you know, this returns -- and this wasn't our
report. This was a report that was initiated by Paul
Beirnes -- $80 for every dollar invested in marketing. So it's a
profound impact. And his words were, I think, there's nothing
that we do from a marketing standpoint that comes close to this.
So it's a high bar that we have to continue to clear. And
if -- you know, if we're sitting in front of you and it's $2 for every
dollar that is committed, then that's an entirely different
conversation.
So, certainly understand and appreciate the authority,
Mr. Chair, that you have to want to do a shorter-term deal. I
think our preference would be, if we could stay with the five
years and know that the year-to-year marketing commitment is
subject to, you know, discussion and approval.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Okay. Thank you.
Commissioner LoCastro.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Thank you, Chairman.
I looked at this as it wasn't necessarily a five-year -- and
maybe, you know, like Commissioner Saunders and I always say,
words matter. Right, sir?
It wasn't really a five-year contract. It's more of a five-year
commitment by the county, and then as we discussed yesterday,
like you said, there's an annual review every time, so it's not like
an automatic we're approving today an exact sum of money that
automatically goes to you. So if that's not correct -- but that's
what I got out of our discussion.
And then just for the record, you know, I made some notes
yesterday as we were talking about some positive things that I
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also want to say regardless of how we vote on the motion here. I
liked when you said because -- like you said, you have some new
leadership, you're blowing the dust off of some things, just as we
are. You said, we need to stop having an expectation of
automatic funding from the county, and I liked hearing -- there
again, I liked hearing that from you and not having me say that.
And so -- and this is more of a summary of our
conversation. But I think after we spoke yesterday, we want to
hear different organizations to include the big pickleball
operation to ask for county help, not tell us, you know. And
there's a big difference to that.
So I'm fine with the five-year commitment because I don't
think it's as contractual, and somebody correct me if I'm wrong,
because my understanding was we had that one-year review in
there, and if we were like, wow, we're not getting biggest bang
for our buck anymore, they did something, then we have the
ability to, at the second-year point to say, hey, we want to take
another look at that. But, you know, I'll defer to the County
Manager or another commissioner if they maybe have some fine
print that I didn't.
MS. PATTERSON: Thank you. I just wanted to check
with the County Attorney that either we have that ability now or
that we can make that adjustment to the contract before the
Chairman signs.
MR. KLATZKOW: Well, you can give termination for
convenience on, basically, two years' notice, or you can buy them
out for 172,000. That's what this proposed contract says.
MS. PATTERSON: They're looking for the ability to
reduce the dollar -- the 335,000 or 300-.
MR. KLATZKOW: I mean, they would have to agree to
that. That's not what we're entering into.
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MS. PATTERSON: Can we make that adjustment, or does
this need to come back?
MR. KLATZKOW: You can bring it -- I would prefer
bringing it back rather than doing it on the fly.
MS. PATTERSON: Right.
MR. DEE: Yeah. I'm sorry, Mr. Klatzkow, and I defer to
your read of the agreement, certainly. But our read of the
agreement was that the specific language around the annual
marketing commitment subjected it to an annual review; is that
not the case?
MR. KLATZKOW: You know what, if that's your
understanding, I'd like to come back with this and make that
express.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Me, personally, that's the
exact wording that I would like in there. You can have as long
of a commitment as you want, but if it says every 12 months we
come back for our review and we either confirm, and, you know,
move it forward with an identical agreement for year two, or we
don't. But if that's not in there written some way like that,
saying it's kind of understood is very dangerous.
MR. KLATZKOW: If what you're saying, it's subject to
annual appropriation by the Board, we can put it in. That's
common language. The state uses that all the time, but that's not
what this deal is.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Mr. Chairman, I think it
sounds like we're going to have to delay this for two weeks. I
don't know if that's going to be a problem.
But I agree with Commissioner Hall and the other
commissioners that have talked about trying to wean things off.
And the language is not clear that -- or in my mind, when I read
this, it was pretty clear that this was a commitment for five years
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with some termination provisions.
But I think we need to come back with some different
language that would give the Board a little bit more authority at
the end of the -- at the end of the first year, as we get into the
second year, to reduce those amounts or at least have a discussion
on it. I'm not sure how you would word that, but --
MR. KLATZKOW: I mean, do you want to make this
annual review by the Board subject to appropriation on an annual
basis?
CHAIRMAN HALL: Yes, I would.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Well, then, I'll make that
motion, then.
MR. KLATZKOW: I mean, I would like to come back.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I think it will have to
come back because you've got a party that has to decide whether
they want to --
MR. KLATZKOW: Yes.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: And, Mike, I think what
we're looking for here is we just want latitude. You know, so it's
not -- like Commissioner Hall said, we're not here squashing
anything or pickleballing anything, but we're looking for just
latitude and the option. If you're doing everything right,
nobody's going to sit here, you know, squeezing nickels. We're
going to all applaud and move forward. But I think we all, you
know, would like that latitude in there.
MR. DEE: Understood. And I may have said this
indirectly, but our thought with this five-year deal was that we
wouldn't see the end of this term; that the long-term master plan
private/public partnership conversation would at some point, by
year two or three, be -- we would have enough common ground
with each other and comfort with each other and move forward
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with a longer-term agreement.
CHAIRMAN HALL: We would look forward to those
conversations.
I'd like to go to Commissioner Kowal. He had a comment.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Yeah. Thank you,
Chairman.
I mean, it sounds like, Mike -- I've spoken to you, too. I
mean, right from the podium, he pretty much verbalized it the
way he thought it was, and it seems like that -- all up here is what
we were actually looking for in the language in the lease itself.
So, you know, I'd like to see us get this done, because this is
a big generator for our community. I mean, this brings
40,000-plus people every time this event's on. I mean, and I see
the numbers, you know. Even in the private sector, you take
some investment to make investment. So, you know, when
you're talking 80 to 1, I mean, that's a pretty good return on your
investment.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Real dollars.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: So, you know -- but it
sounds like, in speaking with Mike, you know, in my own office,
he has a lot of ideas in moving forward. And like he said, he
wants to put a lot of their own investment in to make this thing,
you know, be competitive. Because a lot of people are seeing
what we're doing here in Naples, and like you said, in Fort
Lauderdale right now they're dumping a lot of money into a
facility and possibly to compete with us. So, you know, this -- I
think this is something we should get the language correct in
there and come back and make sure we get this done properly.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: As an aside -- and I'm
okay with bringing it back. But we all seem to be okay with the
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agreement except for the term, so why don't we do as the Chair
suggested and shorten the term from five to one and fix the
language and such as we need to, and that way they have
assurance that they've got the marketing dollars coming to them,
and they can go forth and persevere, and then we'll fix the -- we'll
fix the annual review and the language that the County Attorney
sees next year.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I'm okay with that. I
just want to make sure he understands that this year you're okay
in terms of the amount.
MR. DEE: That first year would be 25, because this year is
the last year --
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Yeah. The first year of
this agreement is pretty well fixed.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Right. But we just
shortened the term from five years to one for now and know that
we're all going to go forth. We're all going to go forth.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: But I think that we
should come back pretty quickly.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yeah. We don't have to
wait till the anniversary of the agreement to fix it, but that's -- I'm
fine with that. But just to offer that assurance, and then -- and
then fix the language and go forward.
MR. DEE: If I could make a request, it would be really
helpful, because the 2025 U.S. Open, believe it or not, is 15
months away.
So getting approval on the one year today under those
conditions and terms with the understanding we will still come
back on years two through five with the language that the County
Attorney suggests we need to make you-all comfortable, does
that work for you?
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COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: All right. So let me
rephrase the motion.
Then we'll approve the agreement for one year today and
direct the County Attorney to work with you on language that
basically says what we've been talking about and have that come
back over the next two or three meetings, something so you'll
have assurance going forward that that's --
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Second.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: -- not just a one-year
deal; that we're going to entertain the other four years with some
additional language. So I'll make that motion.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I'd second it.
CHAIRMAN HALL: All right. So we have a motion for
a one-year approval with coming back with the correct language
that we all want, and we have a second. All in favor, say aye.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Great. That motion passes.
Thanks, Mike. Look forward to talking to you about that.
MR. DEE: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Thank you, Mike.
MS. PATTERSON: Yes, Commissioners, so this is the last
of our regular agenda items. What we have left for the agenda is
the Item 11A 2 p.m. time-certain with the Community
Foundation and then, obviously, our closeout items, the staff
communications and any remaining public speakers. So that
does give you a little bit longer of a lunch today.
CHAIRMAN HALL: So we'll take lunch and come back at
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2 o'clock.
(A luncheon recess was had from 12:26 p.m. to 2:00 p.m.)
MS. PATTERSON: You have a live mic.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Thank you. I guess we're good for
the 2 o'clock time-certain.
Item #11A
A PRESENTATION OF THE 2023 COLLIER COUNTY
COMMUNITY ASSESSMENT. (AMY PATTERSON, COUNTY
MANAGER) (ALL DISTRICTS) – PRESENTED
CHAIRMAN HALL: Yes, sir. Commissioners, that brings
us to Item 11A. This is our 2 o'clock time-certain, and this is a
recommendation to hear a presentation of the 2023 Collier
County Community Assessment. And Mary Beth Greer is here
from the Schulze Family Foundation, and she will be joined by
Eileen Connolly-Keesler from the Community Foundation.
MS. GREER: Good afternoon, Commissioners, and thank
you very much for allowing us a few minutes of your time to
present on the community assessment.
As a little bit of background -- and hopefully I can make the
clickers work. They're not working. Okay.
With the community assessment, we were here five years
ago to present the first ever community assessment that was
sponsored by both the Schulze Family Foundation and the
Community Foundation. We wanted to get a feel from the
residents what the assets and what the needs were in Collier
County.
What we learned from the first assessment --
MR. MILLER: You can just hit the space bar, and it will
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advance to the next slide.
MS. GREER: Okay. Thank you.
What we learned from the first assessment, between our two
foundations in terms of priorities, was a need for increased
funding in early learning so that there could be greater capacity,
greater quality. Between our two organizations, we granted
approximately four and a half million dollars towards early
learning specific. We also saw that mental health care was a
priority. Between our two organizations, we donated
approximately $1.8 million toward those efforts.
We also thought that career and technical education and
increased awareness and funding for that was a priority. And
that, again, came across from the respondents from the survey.
And we, between our two organizations, donated about
3.1 million.
And last, certainly not least, was a public and private
housing initiative, which you're all very familiar with, the Golden
Gate Essential Workforce Housing project which in total,
between our organizations, granted another $10 million.
So in total, over the past five years just regarding those
priorities, we've donated or granted approximately 19 and a half
million dollars.
The first assessment was important for us to learn about
what the needs were in the community. It was equally
important, if not more important, for the community members
who actually reaped the benefits of that.
It wasn't just the Community Foundation and the Schulze
Foundation that did this work. We had a panel of community
advisors anywhere from Naples Daily News to Florida
Southwestern, Florida Gulf Coast, NCH, and so forth. So we
took our combined impact, our combined insight to develop the
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survey and to reach all of the potential people that we needed to
hear from.
How we did it was very similar to when we did it in 2017.
We had primary data, which was the assessment that we gave to
people. We also had focus groups. Likewise, we studied lots of
different reports, whether it was the census, whether it was
reports from the Health Department and so forth. It was that
combination of information that gathered all of the information
for us.
In this survey, we had 6,072 respondents, which is a great
representation of the community. We were sure to target every
ZIP code to make sure that we were hearing from everyone
whether they were in Chokoloskee or in Olde Naples or on
Marco Island or Immokalee.
When we did the survey in 2017, we had about 4,100
respondents. So it was a great turnout, better than we expected.
The better news is that 84, almost 85 percent of the people who
responded were full-time residents. That was one thing we
wanted to make sure, that we didn't just get seasonal people. We
wanted to really hear from the people who are here with us 364
days of the year.
As part of the assessment, we had focus groups. So we had
the survey where people answered approximately 15 or 20
questions about what was important, but then we dug down deep
into focus groups. We led some of the focus groups, and the
company who did the survey, or the assessment for us, did some
of them. So we had English language groups, we had education
focus groups, we had infrastructure and transportation focus
groups, and then we also had focus groups in people's
neighborhoods within their ZIP codes. So in total, we had 24
focus groups from trained community members.
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What we learned -- well, I'm going to go back one. So we
studied the seven different domains. The first one we'll talk
about today was the domain surrounding economic opportunity
and employment. And, again, this information is based on what
the people in the community told us and how they felt about what
was happening in the community.
So we asked them if they were satisfied with workforce
training. And what you'll see here is about 35 percent of the
respondents said yes, they're satisfied with workforce training,
about 26 percent said no, we're not satisfied with it. What's
really worth noting is the 39 percent of the folks in the
community who don't know about workforce training. As
organizations, that's good news for us. It's an opportunity to
inform the community.
In terms of growth management, we asked people, are you
satisfied with growth management in Collier County?
Twenty-nine percent said that they were satisfied or very
satisfied, 52 percent said they're dissatisfied or very dissatisfied,
with 18 percent saying, don't really know, don't have an opinion.
We also asked folks about access to food.
Seventy-four percent of the people surveyed said yes, we believe
there's good access to food in Collier County. About 22 percent
said no, there's not enough access.
Likewise, on employment opportunities, we had a great
response here with 70 percent of the folks saying yes, we believe
there's very good or -- we're very satisfied or satisfied with access
to employment activities, with 16 percent saying no, we don't
think there's enough access.
In the focus groups, we narrowed things down, or we really
drilled into things a little bit more. So the conversations around
economic opportunity in the focus groups were around
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commercial and small businesses. Many of those people in the
group represented that they have some barriers accessing what
they need in the community.
The other barriers that they found were to economic
opportunities and employment, so that was a big part of the
conversation, as well as -- which would be part of the
conversation no matter where you are; cost of living, wages,
some people talked about food insecurity.
Another conversation was regarding workforce development
and how do we increase workforce development in the
community.
Education was another domain we studied, and it's full of
very good news. About 51 percent of the folks surveyed said
that they were satisfied or very satisfied with pre K through 12th
grade education, with only 14 percent being dissatisfied. While
51 percent doesn't seem like a wonderful number, if we were to
look at the folks that had children 18 years and younger, so
children who would likely participate in the school district -- or
private or independent schools -- that number, 51 percent, goes to
70 percent of the folks in the community are satisfied or very
satisfied with pre K through 12th grade education. That's a great
number, in our opinion.
Forty-seven percent of the people said that they were
satisfied with post high school education opportunities. Again,
in this area, we went back to workforce training.
Thirty-five percent of the folks are satisfied or very satisfied.
Access to affordable childcare, you'll see here that
20 percent of the folks are satisfied; 45 percent are dissatisfied.
However, when we narrow it down, again, to people with
children, that number becomes satisfied/dissatisfied, 60 percent
of the people are not satisfied with access to affordable
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healthcare. Childcare -- sorry, childcare, big difference.
In the focus groups, different topics came up. One of
the -- and when I have these four things up here, these are
the -- kind of the overwhelming conversations, or the largest
conversations that came up. One was the needing access to
childcare to maintain jobs. People have difficulty having a
full-time job if they don't have high-quality local access to that
childcare.
After-school and vocational programming was a big
conversation, all in a very positive way. There were a lot of
shout-outs to various organizations who do a fantastic job with
after-school programming for their children so that families feel
safe and secure with where their kids are while they are at work.
On the negative side of things, conversations regarding
student pressure, student support, the politicizing of education
was a big topic among all of the respondents in the focus groups.
Recruiting and retaining teachers was also a theme that kept
popping up. And, typically, Eileen and I will point out that the
recruiting and retaining teachers isn't a result of because -- wasn't
a result of how the school district operates. It was more about
the affordability of living in Collier County. So it's hard for
Collier County School District to recruit new teachers if they
can't afford to live here. So it's not a dent against the school
district as much as it is the challenges associated with coming
here.
So those are the things that I'll talk about -- I'm turning it
over to Eileen -- that we found that were really important and
worthwhile noting and sharing with the community.
Eileen gets the good stuff.
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: All right. Environment, I
love it.
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Okay. So I know I could look at paper, but I just find it
easier to do it this way.
So status -- what we were really surprised about here,
satisfaction with emergency preparedness, you can see people are
really satisfied in this community with 75 percent of the people
feeling really good about where the county's at. So a big
shout-out to the county and Emergency Management.
Oh, yeah, especially since this was post Ian and the fact that
people are feeling like that was all handled really well.
Satisfaction with climate change readiness, here you start
seeing it change a little bit with 42 percent of the people not
feeling like we're so ready for climate change in general. Only
30 percent feeling like we are; 28 percent didn't really have an
opinion on it.
This was interesting five years ago and interesting again,
access to parks and clean beaches. You look at that, 86 of the
people saying yes. That is really interesting, I think, that people
felt good five years ago. Those numbers are very similar; people
feeling still really good about having access, and I think our
founding fathers did a good job on allowing people to have
access onto those beaches.
Themes that came up, climate change and environmental
education. Are we talking enough about a community that is
very -- has a very delicate ecosystem, and do people really
understand, and especially people moving here? You know, I
come from Wisconsin; not so delicate there. So, you know, you
come here, it's a very different environment than what many of us
have grown up in, and are we talking enough about that?
Discussions about emergency and natural disasters. Of
course, we had just had a hurricane, and what else do we need to
do to prepare this community?
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Impact of climate change on beach tourism. We know
when red tide hit four years ago, it was really hard on businesses
and tourism. So we know when the beaches are in trouble, like
even after Ian, it affects everybody economically here.
And then just discussion about community environmental
challenges, maybe not enough discussion about recycling and
things that we could all be participating in to make a better
community.
Healthcare and mental health, when we look at this, we
asked about affordable healthcare, and you've got about
45 percent of the people feeling like they do not have access to
affordable healthcare and somewhere around 41 percent saying
they do. You know, affordable mental health, here again, you've
seen 47 percent of the people not feeling like they have access to
mental health, only 27 percent feeling like they do.
Access to dental, 49 percent say no. So when we get into
this, we start seeing a change on do people have access. And it's
interesting because as we talk to, like, doctors and things who are
all going concierge, I mean, many are saying it isn't -- this isn't a
money issue, but it is an issue where doctors aren't feeling like
they have enough time with their patients, that they're being
pushed to have more and more, you know, patients going through
in one day, and so they're feeling like they've got to step back. If
they really want to provide decent healthcare, like, they need time
with people, and that's changing in this community. So you are
seeing that.
You're seeing people leave. Pediatricians are leaving.
You're seeing docs leave. So it's just something I think we really
have to keep an eye on in Collier County to make sure everybody
can get healthcare.
In those focus groups, again, access to availability, and
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affordable healthcare was an issue. Access to programs and
facilities was an issue because when you get into rural areas here,
people have to drive a long way to get to see a doctor, to get to a
clinic, to get to a dentist. So things -- again, maybe
organizations like Healthcare Network can look at as where
they're placing clinics to make sure everybody has access.
Senior population came up. What are we going to do with
our senior population? As we look at what's happening here in
Collier County, right now we're somewhere around 30 percent
are 65 and older. That's estimated to be over 40 percent by
2040.
Okay. So what -- where are they going? You know,
they're going to age in place? Probably not. They're going to
need facilities.
When I got here 11 years ago, there were no Senior Centers
in this community. Now we have two. They're at capacity. So
that whole issue about how do people age here and how are we
going to be able to provide the services they need.
Mental health, obviously, I mean, especially COVID
brought that to light. People are concerned about not having
access to mental health services. You hear it all the time
because, you know, you're dealing with David Lawrence and the
facility and the need that we see around substance abuse and
mental health.
Housing, I probably don't even have to go through this with
you but, you know, what did people think about housing?
Seventy-seven percent of the people said we do not have enough
affordable housing here. Only 17 percent of the people said we
did, and look at that, "don't know" only 6 percent. So people
really feel like they understand we have a housing crisis going on
here.
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Satisfaction with homelessness support, here we've got
about 41 percent or so saying no, they don't think we have
enough services for the homeless, only 27 or so percent saying
that we do, and you have a whole chunk of 32 percent not having
any idea whether we do or not.
So when we asked about themes in there, it just -- you know,
this is a constant conversation. I just came from a presentation,
and probably the hour and a half I was there, probably an hour
was all on housing and what's happening with affordable
housing. People very concerned/aware of what we're dealing
with here in Collier County.
Homelessness and the continued increase in homelessness,
we're seeing -- we're seeing a lot of single women in cars. Our
women's foundation is working on that, so we know it's out there.
They're parking by the Walmarts, they're parking behind strip
malls. They're parking together, like, caravaning in cars because
that's where they live, and it makes them feel better when you can
get them together versus one parking way over there and one
parking over there. So you're starting to see that happen here
more in Collier County. Obviously, discussion about workforce
housing, we need to make sure everybody has a place to live
here.
Interesting discussion about lack of awareness around
neighborhood ordinances and HOAs. A lot of people don't quite
understand the HOAs and what that means and who's got power
to do what. So just discussion on wanting more information
about how an HOA operates.
Infrastructure and transportation, satisfied with public
transportation, you know, pretty split, actually, on this, although I
do usually ask the question of how many people have ever taken
public transportation, and very rare do I get a hand raised. Most
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people see buses, so they assume, oh, there's a bus there, we must
have a decent system. But they really do not understand how the
system works and how long you may have to wait for a bus and
what has to happen here on a county level in transportation.
Satisfaction with broadband, people seem very satisfied with
61 percent saying yep, all is good there. Satisfaction with Public
Utilities, also somewhat of a surprise that it came it in as high as
that did, coming in at almost 80 percent of the people feeling
really good about that. I don't -- they probably don't live out in
the rural areas because I'm driving out there and lose my GPS.
I'm like, I don't know where I'm going. And so I'm sure there's
some of that that goes on.
Satisfaction with growth management, I guess, you know,
this is the kind of stuff we want commissioners to see. You've
got a chunk of the community here, 52 percent, saying they are
not satisfied with growth management, and maybe it's just lack of
knowledge and not enough awareness, because 18 percent are
saying they really don't know much about what's going on with
growth management.
Access to safe neighborhoods, oh, look at that. The Sheriff
should be very happy with that coming in at 87 percent. People
feel really good about living here, feel like it's a safe
environment.
Satisfaction with the emergency services, again, 82 percent
coming in, and access to affordable arts and culture surprised me
a little bit that we're still this high. We were kind of high last
go-around also, but, you know, with 61 percent saying they do
have access, so that's great for this community.
Things that came up, community infrastructure and safety
things being the biggest issue. Population growth and pressure
on roads and traffic, you hear this all the time, but, you know,
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you can see people are definitely concerned about it.
Safety concern for drivers with bike riders on the road,
which I will not ride a bike until May again and -- because of the
safety issues, so -- and then limitation on public transportation
certainly -- again, I don't know that everybody takes public
transportation, but some who have taken it said, it's a -- they're
long routes. It's difficult getting from Immokalee to Naples, and
other things around transportation should be probably taken a
look at.
Special populations, we didn't do this last time, but
satisfaction with services for people with disabilities, coming in
pretty split on that, around 30 percent on each side, 38 percent
not knowing.
Satisfaction with veterans services, you've got 17 percent
saying they're not satisfied. We thought this was interesting, one
of the biggest percentages, 55 percent do not know what's going
on with their veterans in this county. And, you know, keep in
mind, you've got 22,000 veterans living here, and you certainly
have a portion of veterans -- I think the last numbers I saw now
were like 159 are homeless, so definitely something we should be
having conversations about in this community.
Focus groups talked about adult-focused special needs
programming, making sure things are accessible for wheelchairs
and our senior populations as well as kids and veterans support.
We need to look better at veterans support.
So key issues in comparison, if you look at this chart, you're
going to see those top three things: Controlling housing,
managing growth and development, and environment. Those are
our top three this year when we did the study.
And if we compare it to what it was five years ago, you can
see housing was 45 percent then, now 65 percent. Managing
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growth development, big change, was 38 percent, now it's
63 percent. Environment was 22, and now it's 41. And
although you go, well, we just had a hurricane, we had Irma last
time, the first time we did this. So we had a hurricane then, and
we had a hurricane with Ian, and we'll do this study in five years
and see what happens. Public education, workforce training
comes in about the same.
So, you know, we wanted the county for sure to see, here are
the top things the community are saying we need to take a look at
and we need to keep watching.
And so, you know, our next steps: We're out in the
community talking about this needs assessment. It helps us as
funders determine where we're going to go in the future. It helps
other funders looking at this and our nonprofits when we say
these were the top issues that came out, these are the things we
continue to work on, just like last time we looked at those top
things. And, again, just between the two of us, almost
20 million was put into those issues in this community. We're
going to continue down this path of trying to deal with what it is
the community says are the biggest needs.
So we cut it down to make it a little shorter for you and are
happy to take any questions you might have.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yep, I'll be -- I'll go first.
And it's -- I think I already know the answer to this question,
but as you're aware we -- the Board redid the vision statement,
mission statement, business plan, and budget priorities last year.
We made some significant moves budgetarily last year as
well as engaged a consultant last year to help us with -- the old
guy's accounting terminology is zero-based budgeting. The new
terminology is priority budgeting.
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And so is this data going to be available to us for us to
integrate into the findings from our consultant? Because
this -- you know, this -- at the end of the day, this is how we
should be better managing the monies, the taxpayers' money
that's available for the priorities of what the community sees as
its needs.
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: Absolutely. The whole
study is available for anybody who wants it either on the Schulze
Foundation website or our website, or we can email it to you if
you'd like, if that's easier for you, so you have the entire study
you could read that's how many pages.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Well, us having it is less
important than our staff and making sure that the consultant that
our staff and we are working with --
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: Great.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: -- has that availability.
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: Do you have it yet, Amy?
MS. PATTERSON: No.
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: Okay. We'll make sure
they get it.
MS. GREER: If I can just point out for a second, with this
study, we can narrow it down into ZIP codes. So if there's a
specific question on how does Immokalee feel about X, we're
able to go into certain ZIP codes for questions that were asked.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: My second question has
to do with both of you said -- I heard, I thought anyway, a lot of
the opinions had more to do with maybe not having information
that's already there. And so can we engage with you to get to the
folks that you've consulted with or had query or had give their
opinions as to what's going on? Because Trinity Scott's a wealth
of information back there with regard -- all of our staff is with
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regard to infrastructure projects, housing programs, housing
developments, so ons and so forth, things that we're doing with
regard to growth management, with regard to transportation.
Not making excuses, but to share with people
what -- because a lot of the folks don't even know. They just
know that they're stuck in gridlock when they're trying to go from
A to B and aren't aware of the improvements that are, in fact,
already underway. So can we -- can we impose upon you for
information transmittal?
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: There are some things we
can. Like, we're going to be doing a housing issue paper and,
you know, maybe we can put in some pieces -- I think -- actually,
I think they were trying to contact you on some quotes on that.
That's when we can slide in, like, infrastructure, here are some of
the things that are going on. So there are lots of things we're
working on that actually we can.
And, you know, some of those "I don't know" things, you
know, like school district, keep in mind 30 percent of our people
are 65 and older. They don't have kids in the school district.
You know, they don't even have any grandkids in the school
district, so they're going to say "I don't know." Veterans, if you
don't have a family that's a veteran, you're probably not paying
attention to what's go on.
So I think for all of us, and probably even our nonprofits,
when the opportunity is there to educate, we've got to take
advantage of it.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Well, from me to you,
what I would like to do is avail myself or our staff -- they're all
sitting back there going, oh, my God, he's volunteering me again.
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: We'll be calling you.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: But I would like to avail
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ourselves at speaking engagements for information
dissemination. It's imperative that the community is aware of
what's, in fact, going on and hearing what the either perceived
needs or the actual needs, in fact, are and how government's, in
fact, trying to address those.
So we would -- I would -- I know I would, myself, like
to -- I would like to offer up myself as an opportunity just to
share information that we have going on.
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: You know what would be
great, too, if we could get the newspaper to maybe do a small
article or a big article on each one of these domains and how it
ties to the county, you know, like --
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Sure.
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: Those kinds of things.
And I don't know how you do media here. So something that I
think we could think about. Maybe, you know, that's -- just say,
here are seven domains, and here's what the community was
saying. So talk to your County Manager and your
commissioners about what their thoughts are on it, so...
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay.
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: All right.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Thank you.
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: Yep.
CHAIRMAN HALL: I would have a question regarding
the climate change. What constitutes climate change education?
I mean, we don't -- we're not very seasonal here. It doesn't get
cold and hot.
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: No, but when they talk
about that, they're talking about sea level rise, you know, the
effect mangroves and natural plantings, dunes, and other things
can have on our beaches when hurricanes are hitting. Is there
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increase in storms? Is the gulf getting warmer? I mean, those
are the things. And some of those we're going to monitor from
the Community Foundation perspective because we're going to
take these seven domains, and we look at that.
So the charts on that, I think, is what people are saying,
what's happening. What are we looking at in this county? Are
we paying attention to it at all? Does it matter? Does it not
matter? So when we're talking education, I don't know -- and
you can jump in on any piece you want on that.
MS. GREER: So in particular, the Schultz Foundation
doesn't fund environmental agencies; however, we do fund
organizations that educate about environment. So places like the
Conservancy.
So when we're looking at this and we see climate change
and education about climate change is a concern, that gives us an
opportunity to look at are we going to shift some of our funding
to be more around that area.
I get your point about the hot and cold, but people are
looking, I think, in Collier County about those climate-change
issues that resolve -- or revolve around kind of warm-weather
places, like red tide, like the tide rising and so forth.
CHAIRMAN HALL: So would red tide be a result of
climate change?
MS. GREER: I don't think that anyone is able to
put -- been able to put a pin in that yet. There are some experts
who say yes, and there are some who say no.
CHAIRMAN HALL: I just wondered, because it was
around in Cortez's day. He documented it. I was just curious
about that.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: It's in his journals.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I heard one scientist say
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that it's been going on for two billion years, natural occurring
event. Doesn't have anything to do with what the -- it has to do
with what the climate is doing at the time the red tide, in fact,
occurs, which way the wind's blowing, but it's not impacted by
climate change.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner Saunders.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Thank you.
Thank you for the update on that report, and some very
interesting things there. There are a few things that the county
can certainly focus on. Mental health, for example, I think we've
taken some action in that regard with the receiving center that
will be going up. I think that will be under construction in this
calendar year, I believe.
We're really grappling with the workforce housing, and
that's probably the number-one issue impacting most people at
this point. You talk about women living in their cars. And we
just need to really ratchet up what we're doing for workforce
housing.
It's kind of a question for the County Manager, but we have
the -- we have the $20 million in our fund. We, today, I think,
made some changes on how we can use those dollars. But
there's really been nothing that's come to the Board to talk about
properties that are available and what we can do to ratchet up the
effort to have more workforce housing.
We know areas where this can go without impacting, in a
negative way, existing neighborhoods. We know that there
are -- this is an example, that Stix project in Golden Gate City
where there's a reconversion of a hotel into a workforce housing
type of a project. There are plenty of hotels in this county that
are probably less than lucrative for the owners, and perhaps
there's an opportunity there.
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So I want to -- that's one of the takeaways from this, and I
think most people in the community -- based on your analysis,
most people feel that that's really a hot-button issue.
Of course, traffic is another, and we're, I think, diligently
working towards improving our transportation system, but I think
we can do more. I know in a couple weeks we're going to talk a
little bit about Immokalee Road, and maybe there's some things
we can do. I've been working with Trinity Scott on some
potential projects on Immokalee Road that would help a little bit.
But those are the real -- I think are the real -- two really big
issues that most people are concerned about, traffic and a place to
live. And I know we were focusing on those, but perhaps we
need to focus a little bit more.
I know Commissioner Hall is working with the Affordable
Housing Advisory Committee, and that committee has done great
things under your leadership, and I know it will continue to in the
next year.
But I'd like to see us really focusing on those two issues a
little bit more. I know we've talked about it a lot, but I'd like to
see us focus on them a little more, and I think your report really
bares that out, that that's a problem -- or those are two -- the
major problems.
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: We hear it every day,
actually.
CHAIRMAN HALL: So do we. So do we.
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: Yes.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner Kowal.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: Thank you, Chairman.
Well, I appreciate you guys coming here and giving us this
presentation. I think it's full of a lot of information and things
that we can use moving forward. I wasn't here, of course, five
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years ago to hear it then.
But, you know, initially I see that workforce housing and
affordable housing has definitely been a topic, and it's something
we've all been, you know, faced with, at least this past year I've
been on the Board, and I think we've made strides towards even
the developers, these private developers coming in and building,
and we're kind of holding them to task to have a percentage of
affordable apartments and things like that built into their projects.
And, you know, basically what it all comes down to -- I
know with the 20 million and with the AHAC committee and
with the affordable housing, we're going to find something good
and a good project and the right kind of properties to use that, but
that's a small little Band-Aid on a big problem.
You know, we have to have that private sector and -- you
know, out there willing to come here and invest their own money,
their own skin in the game to build projects and build apartments
that have percentage of affordability in there. And it's sad,
because when you ask -- we hear it every day, traffic, traffic,
traffic. And you always ask, well, what do you think the reason
for the traffic is? Because we're building too much. Too many
apartments on Immokalee Road. Too many this and that. So
it's kind of it's a bad thing --
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: Yes.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: -- because we know we need
this, but at the same time we have to deal with this. And, you
know, it's like they don't want no more building but at the same
time they want places to live. So it's like a hard juggling game
that, you know, we're all going to be part of.
And I think information, too -- because I know for a fact -- I
saw something in the report about people aren't aware or don't
think we recycle enough. I'm pretty sure we won an award last
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year in our county -- correct, Dr. George back there -- for being,
you know, on top of that.
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: Access is great for
recycling.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: And, you know -- and I
know, like, even our garbage trucks, we're running off natural
gas. We don't use diesel fuel. And when it comes to polluting
and things like that, we're way ahead of the curve, not being
asked by anyone to do it. They're taking it on their own to do it.
So I think, you know, the public probably doesn't even realize a
lot of these things.
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: Right.
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: So you know, just -- but
definitely, share this information because it's going to be useful
for us down the road. So thank you.
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: I totally agree that people
do not know, and there's got to be some kind of campaign or
something we can run off this that --
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Stay on the mic, dear,
please.
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: Sorry. My voice is so
loud. I don't know why.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Not for the girl.
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: Okay. So I think that
you're right. And, again, I really think if there was a way for the
newspapers to start doing some articles that address that.
You know, housing's a big one. I do a lot of public
speaking and have been talking about it, but I keep saying, we
have probably made more progress in the last two years or three
years than we have made, you know, in the past 10; that
everybody is looking at this, and everybody's at the table, and the
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new Housing Alliance and the Housing Impact Fund we hold and
the work that the county's doing. There's a lot going on, but it's
slow. Building is slow. That is not something that pops up
overnight.
So I do think -- yeah, the more we talk today, the more I
really think the newspaper's got to grab this for us.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner LoCastro.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Thank you,
Mr. Chairman.
Good data, but, you know, one of the things I wanted to just
really thank you both for is how much money you've really
invested in this community. I mean, you know, the data gives us
really good information, but there's so much in this community
we wouldn't have been able to accomplish without, you know,
organizations like yours and your foundation and the Community
Foundation.
So the millions of dollars you've invested in the community,
some people are uneducated about that, you know. I bet if you
put on the poll here, what's the Collier Community Foundation?
How many of you have heard of that. Yet they've all benefited
from millions of dollars worth of support.
Similar to what Commissioner Kowal was saying, you
know, my biggest frustration on the workforce, affordable
housing, whatever you want to call it is, you know, you can see
80 percent of the people think we've done nothing about it. The
second we have a builder that wants to build something, we get
100 matching T-shirts in here saying, vote no. You're turning
this place into Miami. You've ruined my neighborhood. You're
overbuilding. You know, find it -- put it somewhere else.
So, you know, I've said before, we can't build everything out
in Immokalee behind redwood trees, you know. It has to be
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mixed in. There's also a big mixed conception about what
affordable housing is. As you know, a lot of times we get notes
where people say -- they reference that low-income housing
project, and it's like, no, actually an apartment complex that's
going to look like the Taj Mahal, but 35 percent of the units that
are embedded in it are just going to be priced differently. It's not
built any different.
So many people, when I have town hall meetings, they don't
get that. They think we're building, you know, some sort of, you
know, government subsidized, you know, cheap housing
somewhere and, you know, we're going to put it right in Port
Royal, you know, somewhere.
And then, lastly, I don't know, this is more tongue in cheek.
How do 4 percent of the people not know where to get food, you
know, or that we have enough options? I just -- I just -- there's
always somebody that says, no opinion or whatever. But, when
I saw that, I'm like -- you know, one of the things I think
that -- there was something the TDC showed me yesterday; they
have some data. And one of the biggest reasons -- not the
biggest, beaches and all that, but a reason that's pretty high up
there why people come to Collier County, Naples, Southwest
Florida, are the dining options and whatnot.
But I just found that sort of -- how could there be 4 percent
of people that -- and I'm sure the question was, do we have
enough food options or whatnot. But -- anyway. But thanks for
what you do and how you've helped us improve the community,
really, with funds we wouldn't normally have. So thank you so
much.
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: Great.
MS. GREER: Pleasure. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Lots of good information. I still
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don't understand some of the "I don't knows."
But as far as housing, and traffic, I witnessed the AHAC for
two years constantly talk about the problem. Constantly talk
about the problem. Put the problem -- had events about talking
about the problem; put it in the paper talking about the problem;
magazines talking about the problem. And when I came on
board last year, I was fed up with talking about the problem.
The more you focus on a problem, the bigger it gets. The
more you focus on the solution, the bigger it gets.
So we've been at it for a solid year now getting government
out of the way doing everything that we possibly can to make it
plausible for builders. Now, the truth is, if I had a magic wand, I
could do it today. But traffic's going to take years to correct.
Housing's going to take three or four years to correct. If we
broke ground on everything we could possibly imagine today,
we're talking two and a half, three years before anybody moves
in.
So this is where faith and patience, you inherit the promises.
And so I would -- in your -- in your communities and in your
talking and in your talking points, I would encourage the public
to give us grace and let us act instead of hammering us over a
problem that we can't immediately fix.
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: You're right.
CHAIRMAN HALL: So, County Manager, do we need a
motion to approve or --
MS. PATTERSON: You're not looking for --
CHAIRMAN HALL: Just a presentation.
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: We're not looking for
anything. There's a rarity.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Great. Thank you, ladies. Thank
you much.
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COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I was going to say, that's
the Eileen we all know and love.
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: Oh, I'll be back a different
day.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: She wants something.
She wants something.
MS. CONNOLLY-KEESLER: It's not the last time you're
going to see me. Thank you.
Item #15A
STAFF AND COMMISSION GENERAL COMMUNICATIONS
MS. PATTERSON: Commissioners, that brings us to staff
and commission general communications. Item 15A is public
comments on general topics not on the current or future agenda
by individuals not already heard during previous public comment
in this meeting.
MR. MILLER: We have no speakers.
Item #15C
STAFF AND COMMISSION GENERAL COMMUNICATIONS
MS. PATTERSON: We do not have any staff project
updates, so that brings us to staff and commission general
communications.
Mr. Rodriguez?
MR. RODRIGUEZ: No. We're good, thank you.
MS. PATTERSON: Nothing here.
County Attorney.
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MR. KLATZKOW: We're good.
MS. PATTERSON: That's to you, board members. Your
pleasure, Chair, on which end you want to start on.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Start in the middle, dang
it. No, and I'm fine. I have nothing further to add.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner Kowal?
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: I'm fine, too. I'm just
looking forward to this second year of participating with this
group of gentlemen up here. So, 2024, hooah.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner Saunders.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Did we get a response to
the invasion to negotiate for the Golden Gate Golf Course? The
due date was yesterday, and I hadn't heard one way or the other.
MS. PATTERSON: I'm looking around for Mr. Finn and
hope that he will either appear miraculously -- oh, look it. There
he is.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Did you hear that, Ed?
COMMISSIONER KOWAL: He just lingers in the
hallway.
MS. PATTERSON: Ed, do you have an update for us on
the ITN on the Golden Gate Golf Course?
MR. FINN: Yes, ma'am. ITN Golden Gate Golf Course,
that was sent out approximately two weeks ago. I think it had 21
days on the street.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: It was due today.
MR. FINN: I have not seen it today, sir. I will check
when I leave here, and I will send you an email.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: That would be
wonderful. That way I won't lose any sleep tonight wondering
about the Golden Gate Golf Course.
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MR. FINN: That will make one of us not losing sleep.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I have nothing else,
Mr. Chairman. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Commissioner LoCastro.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Yeah. I have a couple
just quick updates for all of you.
This week I had a discussion with Victoria Peters from
FDOT, Trinity, and Wayne as well about litter on I-75. I just -- I
happened to be driving from Marco all the way up to a little bit
past Estero, and Trinity I were talking about it yesterday. She
made the same trek for something different. It's horrible again.
But Victoria assured us that they'd be attacking it aggressively, so
I just thought I would throw that out there in case you hear from
your constituents.
We're not sitting on our hands. We're not doing anything,
but it's also FDOT. The county's done, you know, some things
where we've gotten out of our lane a little bit when we've seen a
couch in the middle of the road. You know, we don't care if it's
on I-75. We have sent county assets out before when there's
something major, but it's FDOT's responsibility and, you know,
we're leaning on them, once again, pretty hard. There's some
pretty bad stretches where it's not just a couple of tin cans.
I had a great update from Jaime Cook yesterday on the rock
crushing lot. So just to let you know, they're spreading the piles.
You know, equipment's gone. They're still doing some things
that are required by the Water Management District and some
environmental things, but they're way past the -- you know,
where they were. So it's just some finishing up things, and I've
gotten some positive, you know, feedback from citizens as well.
So just to sort of, you know, update the group.
One thing that Mr. Rodriguez and I are talking about, we
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voted a month or two ago to go to credit cards only at all of our
marinas and places of business when it comes to the county
because we were losing some cash out the back end. And we
all -- I've been getting a lot of -- not a lot, but some pushback
from some people. Oh, I sent my grandkids over to the marina
at Port of the Islands to buy an ice cream, and, you know, they
don't have a Visa card. So, you know, how ridiculous.
You know, I will tell, I actually have about six pictures in
my phone of places that I've gone that are noncounty places.
One of them was my mom's hospital in Tampa. In the cafeteria,
credit cards only. So it's -- you know, I've been telling, you
know, my constituents, it's not something we invented, but also,
too -- and somebody said, well, hire a better contractor. It's not
the contractor, but then the contractor hires employees that
sometimes last for 30 days. And so -- and then we find out, you
know, $1,000 is disappearing.
But one of the things that Mr. Rodriguez and I talked about
is maybe for purchases under $10 or something we could accept
cash. So they have a little bit of petty cash, and if somebody
comes in to buy a coffee or an ice cream -- so I know that they're
going to look at that.
We also want consistency across the county. You know, I
don't want to have a marina that only takes credit cards, but then
we have one in somebody else's district that takes everything.
And there were a few citizens that sort of -- that I won't say sort
of -- did accuse us of that. You know, I'm being told by Parks
and Rec we've -- across the board we are consistent, so maybe
that was bad info or something like that. But I just thought I
would make you aware of the topic.
And then, you know, Mr. Rodriguez, you and I talked quite
a bit, and same with Ms. Williams in the back, but I just want to,
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you know, go on the record here. Please keep the accelerator
down on Caxambas. You know, citizens certainly, similar to
what we were saying here, their lack of information thinking that,
you know, they got their roof fixed in a month and Caxambas
was the most destroyed marina and park -- really, probably the
most destroyed asset besides the Naples Pier, which isn't in the
county. It's the City of Naples. But, you know, we can't fix it
with a pickup truck full of plywood and three gallons of spackle.
This is going to be a multimillion-dollar total redo, and the
second we lock in contractors, that park's going to be closed. So
some people that are screaming that they want it fixed are also
the same people that are enjoying it right now. So the minute we
try to fix it, we're actually going to lock it.
But, you know, continue to -- and really it's not just -- you
know, that's one of those things like the sports complex; it doesn't
really matter whose district it's in. We have constituents in all of
our districts that use Caxambas. And so it's really been in the
news a lot. We've been catching a lot of spears. You know, we
had a few reporters that reached out to us. And I was telling
Mr. Rodriguez, I watched one of the -- one of the news reports on
NBC2, and, you know, we gave them all the pertinent
information, but they kind of -- they did sort of skew the report
that, you know, they interviewed a bunch of citizens that all said,
you know, the county is sitting on their hands and not doing
anything. How could it take a year to fix a marina?
Everything else -- one quote was, everything else across the
entire county is all fixed. And, you know, like we were talking,
you could just go a little bit north, and there's stuff that hasn't
been touched. The pier hasn't been touched. There's houses
that still have a lot of damage.
So it's not an excuse, but this one has a lot of complicated
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moving parts to it and also, too, no budget. You know, we don't
have a budget that says, you know, this is money set aside to
rebuild one of our marinas. So, you know -- but continue to
keep us updated.
And then, lastly, you know, I wanted to just sort of end this
with a real shout-out and very impressive comments about
Commissioner Kowal and Commissioner Hall. I mean, it's
unbelievable that it's been a year, right? I mean, I remember you
guys campaigning. When I campaigned, I sat in this audience
for a year and a half and went to pretty much every commissioner
meeting to watch sort of what happened up here, and I'll just say
in a nutshell, you wouldn't know that you two have only been in
the seat for a year. I'll just say that -- just how impressed and
proud I am to serve with both of you and what a great addition
you've been to this group, and even Commissioner Saunders has
said that before, and he's got experience at every level of, you
know, Florida government.
And, you know, you-all have really added to this group, not
only with your get-up-and-go, but your backgrounds. You
know, having somebody that's a former sheriff, your business
background, how much it's paid, you know, big dividends. So I
want to say, you know, as a fellow colleague and, you know,
we've spent some time in Tallahassee together on a couple of
trips, just so proud to serve with both of you and, you know,
congratulations on your turn here, and, you know, you'll see -- it's
six feet over. It tires you out a lot more when you're running the
show here. But, you know, I really enjoy serving with both of
you and how much you've added this past 12 months for, sure.
CHAIRMAN HALL: Thank you, Commissioner LoCastro.
I think we think likewise. I think y'all have made it easy for us,
and I can't believe it's been a year.
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Thanks for making it a fairly easy transition today. This
wasn't as bad as what I thought it might have been, but it was a
good day.
And I want to say thanks for the discussion on the TDT
stuff. I thought we had a good discussion, and I look forward to
meeting next week.
And with that, we're adjourned.
*****
****Commissioner McDaniel moved, seconded by Commissioner
Kowal and carried that the following items under the consent and
summary agendas be approved and/or adopted****
Item #16A1
APPROVED THE RELEASE OF A CODE ENFORCEMENT LIEN
WITH AN ACCRUED VALUE OF $289,600 BY APPROVING A
REDUCTION OF FINES IN THE AMOUNT OF $266,768 AND
ACCEPTING PAYMENT OF $22,832 IN THE CODE
ENFORCEMENT ACTION TITLED BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS V. ROBERT ARNOLD, IN SPECIAL
MAGISTRATE CASE NOS. CEV20200002189 AND
CESD20200002191 RELATED TO THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
5442 29TH PL SW.
Item #16A2
ACCEPTED THE STAFF SUMMARY FOR THE 2024
SOUTHWEST FLORIDA COASTAL FLOOD STUDY (SWFL-CF)
EDITION OF THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT
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AGENCY (FEMA) DIGITAL FLOOD INSURANCE RATE MAP
(DFIRM) FOR COLLIER COUNTY.
Item #16A3
AUTHORIZED STAFF TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO THE
FLORIDA FISH AND WILDLIFE CONSERVATION
COMMISSION TO BE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE FUNDING
ASSISTANCE SERVICES WORTH $35,000 IN FY 2025 FOR
WETLAND RESTORATION WITHIN THE CONSERVATION
COLLIER PEPPER RANCH PRESERVE AND TO AUTHORIZE
STAFF TO ACCEPT SUCH FUNDING ASSISTANCE SERVICES,
IF AWARDED.
Item #16A4
APPROVED THE CONSERVATION COLLIER CARACARA
PRAIRIE PRESERVE CONSERVATION BANK HABITAT
MANAGEMENT PLAN 10-YEAR UPDATE UNDER THE
CONSERVATION COLLIER PROGRAM.
Item #16A5
AUTHORIZED THE COUNTY MANAGER, OR DESIGNEE, TO
RELEASE THE UTILITIES PERFORMANCE SECURITY (UPS)
IN THE AMOUNT OF $36,985 TO THE PROJECT ENGINEER OR
DEVELOPER’S DESIGNATED AGENT FOR ENCOMPASS
HEALTH REHABILITATION HOSPITAL OF NAPLES,
PL20220003017.
Item #16A6
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AUTHORIZED THE CLERK OF COURTS TO RELEASE A
PERFORMANCE BOND IN THE AMOUNT OF $513,971, WHICH
WAS POSTED AS A GUARANTEE FOR EXCAVATION PERMIT
NUMBER PL20210000187 AND PL20210001212 FOR WORK
ASSOCIATED WITH VALENCIA TRAILS NAPLES AND
VALENCIA TRAILS - PLAT THREE.
Item #16A7
AUTHORIZED THE CLERK OF COURTS TO RELEASE A
PERFORMANCE BOND IN THE AMOUNT OF $184,346, WHICH
WAS POSTED AS A GUARANTEE FOR EXCAVATION PERMIT
NUMBER PL20210001927 FOR WORK ASSOCIATED WITH
VALENCIA TRAILS NAPLES LAKES 19, 20, & 21.
Item #16A8
AUTHORIZED THE CLERK OF COURTS TO RELEASE A
PERFORMANCE BOND IN THE AMOUNT OF $59,880, WHICH
WAS POSTED AS A GUARANTEE FOR EXCAVATION PERMIT
NUMBER PL20220000406 FOR WORK ASSOCIATED WITH
PALISADES.
Item #16A9
APPROVED FINAL ACCEPTANCE OF THE POTABLE WATER
AND SEWER UTILITY FACILITIES AND ACCEPT THE
CONVEYANCE OF A PORTION OF THE POTABLE WATER AND
SEWER FACILITIES AND APPURTENANT UTILITY
EASEMENT FOR EKOS ON SANTA BARBARA,
January 9, 2024
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PL20230011208.
Item #16A10
APPROVED RECORDING THE FINAL PLAT OF ESPLANADE
AT RIVERGRASS - PHASE 1 (APPLICATION NUMBER
PL20220005479), APPROVAL OF THE STANDARD FORM
CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT, AND
APPROVAL OF THE PERFORMANCE SECURITY IN THE
AMOUNT OF $18,535,108.54.
Item #16A11
APPROVED THE FINAL ACCEPTANCE OF THE POTABLE
WATER AND SEWER UTILITY FACILITIES FOR
RATTLESNAKE HAMMOCK SELF STORAGE - PHASE 2,
PL20230015805.
Item #16A12
APPROVED THE FINAL ACCEPTANCE OF THE POTABLE
WATER AND SEWER UTILITY FACILITIES FOR SKYSAIL
AMENITY CENTER, PL20230009260.
Item #16A13
RESOLUTION 2024-001: APPROVED A RESOLUTION FOR
FINAL ACCEPTANCE OF THE PRIVATE ROADWAY AND
DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE
PLAT DEDICATIONS, FOR THE FINAL PLAT OF SOLUNA,
APPLICATION NUMBER PL20210000514, AND AUTHORIZE
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THE RELEASE OF THE MAINTENANCE SECURITY IN THE
AMOUNT OF $2,700,983.78.
Item #16A14
APPROVED FINAL ACCEPTANCE OF THE POTABLE WATER
UTILITY FACILITIES AND ACCEPT THE CONVEYANCE OF A
PORTION OF THE POTABLE WATER FACILITIES AND
APPURTENANT UTILITY EASEMENT FOR VANDERBILT WAY
APARTMENTS, PL20230001658.
Item #16A15
RESOLUTION 2024-002: ADOPTED A RESOLUTION WAIVING
THE OPTIONAL LOCAL PUBLIC HEARING RELATING TO
THE PETITION TO ESTABLISH THE TRANQUILITY LAKES
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PURSUANT TO
SECTIONS 190.005(1), FLORIDA STATUTES.
Item #16A16
APPROVED STAFF ENHANCEMENTS TO THE APPLICATION
AND REVIEW PROCESS FOR THE WORKFORCE HOUSING
LAND ACQUISITION PORTION OF THE VOTER-APPROVED
LOCAL GOVERNMENT INFRASTRUCTURE ONE-CENT
SALES SURTAX.
Item #16B1
APPROVED AN AGREEMENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF A
DRAINAGE EASEMENT (PARCEL 150DE) REQUIRED FOR
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THE WEST GOODLETTE-FRANK ROAD AREA STORMWATER
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT PHASE 2; AND AUTHORIZE
NECESSARY BUDGET AMENDMENT (PROJECT NO. 60142).
(ESTIMATED FISCAL IMPACT: $20,900.)
Item #16B2
APPROVED AN AGREEMENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF A
DRAINAGE EASEMENT (PARCEL 149DE) REQUIRED FOR
THE WEST GOODLETTE-FRANK ROAD AREA STORMWATER
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT PHASE 2; AND AUTHORIZE THE
NECESSARY BUDGET AMENDMENT. (PROJECT NO. 60142).
(ESTIMATED FISCAL IMPACT:
$44,400.)
Item #16B3
APPROVED AN AGREEMENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF A
DRAINAGE EASEMENT (PARCEL 138DE) REQUIRED FOR
THE WEST GOODLETTE-FRANK ROAD AREA STORMWATER
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT PHASE 2; AND AUTHORIZE
NECESSARY BUDGET AMENDMENT (PROJECT NO. 60142).
(ESTIMATED FISCAL IMPACT: $29,050.)
Item #16B4
AWARDED INVITATION TO BID (“ITB”) NO. 23-8170,
“MOTOROLA IRRIGATION CENTRAL CONTROL SYSTEM
PARTS AND SERVICES,” TO CONTEMPORARY CONTROLS &
COMMUNICATIONS, INC., AND AUTHORIZE THE
CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE ATTACHED AGREEMENT.
January 9, 2024
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Item #16B5
RESOLUTION 2024-003: ADOPTED A RESOLUTION
APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE CHAIRMAN TO
EXECUTE THE PUBLIC TRANSIT GRANT AGREEMENT
(PTGA) 451893-1-94-22 WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION TO ACCEPT FEDERAL TRANSIT
ADMINISTRATION SECTION 5311 RURAL AREA PROGRAM
IN THE AMOUNT OF $575,000 FOR THE PURCHASE OF A
REPLACEMENT BUS AND AUTHORIZE THE NECESSARY
BUDGET AMENDMENTS.
Item #16B6
RESOLUTION 2024-004: APPROVED AND EXECUTE A
TRANSPORTATION REGIONAL INCENTIVE PROGRAM
(TRIP)/ COUNTY INCENTIVE GRANT PROGRAM (CIGP)
STATE-FUNDED GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION (FDOT) REIMBURSING
THE COUNTY UP TO $2,500,000 FOR THE DESIGN OF THE
IMMOKALEE ROAD AT LIVINGSTON ROAD
IMPROVEMENTS AND AUTHORIZE THE NECESSARY
BUDGET AMENDMENTS; FPN 452248-1-34-01/02. (PROJECT
60268, FUNDS 1841 AND 1842).
Item #16B7
THE BOARD ACCEPTED THE IMMOKALEE
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK PLAN THAT IDENTIFIES
OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE THE TRANSPORTATION
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NETWORK IN IMMOKALEE.
Item #16B8
APPROVED THE FIFTH AMENDED AND RESTATED
INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR THE SOUTHWEST FLORIDA
JOB TRAINING CONSORTIUM.
Item #16B9
(1) APPROVED AN AFTER-THE-FACT PAYMENT FOR
MATERIALS UNDER CHANGE ORDER #1 IN THE AMOUNT
OF $15,378.20 OBTAINED PRIOR TO PROPER APPROVAL, TO
MASTEC NORTH AMERICA, INC. UNDER THE EXPIRED
CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT NO. 20-7791 “VANDERBILT
DRIVE UNDERGROUND UTILITY CONVERSION PHASE 4”
PROJECT, (2) APPROVED AN AFTER-THE-FACT PAYMENT
FOR MATERIALS UNDER WORK DIRECTIVE #1 IN THE
AMOUNT OF $25,959.63, OBTAINED PRIOR TO PROPER
APPROVAL, TO MASTEC NORTH AMERICA, INC. UNDER
THE EXPIRED CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT NO. 20-7791
“VANDERBILT DRIVE UNDERGROUND UTILITY
CONVERSION PHASE 4” PROJECT, (3) WAIVED THE
PROCUREMENT ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT TO EXECUTE
CHANGE ORDER FOR THE USE OF OWNER’S ALLOWANCE
FOR MATERIALS AUTHORIZED UNDER WORK DIRECTIVE
#2, (4) APPROVED AN AFTER-THE-FACT PAYMENT FOR
MATERIALS UNDER WORK DIRECTIVE #2 IN THE AMOUNT
OF $12,064.46 TO BE PAID OUT OF OWNER’S ALLOWANCE,
(5) DEEMED THAT THESE EXPENDITURES HAVE A VALID
PUBLIC PURPOSE; AND (6) WAIVED THE LIQUIDATED
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DAMAGES IN THE AMOUNT OF $84,500.
Item #16C1
WAIVED LIQUIDATED DAMAGES IN THE AMOUNT OF
$692,640, AND AUTHORIZE PAYMENT OF PAY APPLICATION
NO. 4 PERTAINING TO AGREEMENT NO. 14-6213 FOR THE
“SOUTH COUNTY REGIONAL WATER TREATMENT PLANT
CHLORINE STORAGE BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS”
PROJECT WITH DOUGLAS N. HIGGINS, INC. (PROJECT NO.
70136)
Item #16D1
ACCEPTED THE AMERICORPS SEPTEMBER 11TH NATIONAL
DAY OF SERVICE AND REMEMBRANCE GRANT AWARD IN
THE AMOUNT OF $196,561 AND A LOCAL CONTRIBUTION IN
THE AMOUNT OF $10,953 THROUGH IN-KIND AND LOCAL
FUNDS AND ALLOW THE COUNTY MANAGER OR THEIR
DESIGNEE TO SERVE AS THE AUTHORIZED
REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE GRANTOR ELECTRONIC
SUBMISSION SYSTEM, EGRANTS, THROUGHOUT THE
GRANT AWARD PERIOD, AND AUTHORIZE THE NECESSARY
BUDGET AMENDMENTS. (HOUSING GRANT FUND 1835 AND
COMMUNITY & HUMAN SERVICES GRANT SUPPORT FUND
1806)
Item #16D2
APPROVED AN AFTER-THE-FACT PAYMENT FOR TWO (2)
INVOICES IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF $2,782.89 TO TATE
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TRANSPORT CORPORATION FOR SAND HAULING FOR
PARKS ATHLETIC FIELDS ORDERED AND RECEIVED BY
PARKS AND RECREATION DIVISION IN JUNE 2023.
Item #16D3
APPROVED AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN A
LANDLORD PAYMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN COLLIER
COUNTY AND ARIADNA BARBE-VILLA, ALLOWING THE
COMMUNITY AND HUMAN SERVICES DIVISION (CHS) TO
ADMINISTER THE RAPID RE-HOUSING AND
HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION PROGRAM THROUGH THE
EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS AND RAPID UNSHELTERED
SURVIVOR HOUSING GRANTS PROGRAM.
Item #16D4
APPROVED AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN A
LANDLORD PAYMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN COLLIER
COUNTY AND G. AZAR ELECTRIC, INC., ALLOWING THE
COMMUNITY AND HUMAN SERVICES DIVISION (CHS) TO
ADMINISTER THE RAPID RE-HOUSING AND
HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION PROGRAM THROUGH THE
EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS AND RAPID UNSHELTERED
SURVIVOR HOUSING (RUSH) GRANTS PROGRAM.
Item #16D5
APPROVED AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN A
LANDLORD PAYMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN COLLIER
COUNTY AND JANTINA HANNA, ALLOWING THE
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COMMUNITY AND HUMAN SERVICES DIVISION (CHS) TO
ADMINISTER THE RAPID RE-HOUSING AND
HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION PROGRAM THROUGH THE
EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS AND RAPID UNSHELTERED
SURVIVOR HOUSING GRANTS PROGRAM.
Item #16D6
APPROVED AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN A
LANDLORD PAYMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN COLLIER
COUNTY AND HIRAN VIVEK, ALLOWING THE COMMUNITY
AND HUMAN SERVICES DIVISION (CHS) TO ADMINISTER
THE RAPID RE-HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS
PREVENTION PROGRAM THROUGH THE EMERGENCY
SOLUTIONS AND RAPID UNSHELTERED SURVIVOR
HOUSING GRANTS PROGRAM.
Item #16D7
APPROVED AN AFTER-THE-FACT FIRST AMENDMENT WITH
THE AREA AGENCY ON AGING FOR SOUTHWEST FLORIDA,
INC., AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDING UNDER THE
OLDER AMERICANS ACT GRANT PROGRAM FOR THE
COLLIER COUNTY SERVICES FOR SENIORS PROGRAM TO
REVISE THE SERVICE RATE REPORT (ATTACHMENT XIV).
(HUMAN SERVICES GRANT FUND
1837)
Item #16E1
APPROVED AN ASSUMPTION AGREEMENT ASSIGNING ALL
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RIGHTS, DUTIES, BENEFITS, AND OBLIGATIONS UNDER
AGREEMENT #18-7432-SM, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES
LIBRARY SURVEY AND MAPPING CATEGORY, FROM
DAGOSTINO GEOSPATIAL, INC., D/B/A DAGOSTINO &
WOOD, INC., TO CAUSSEAUX, HEWETT & WALPOLE, INC.,
D/B/A CHW.
Item #16E2
1) APPROVED THE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT PREPARED BY
THE PROCUREMENT SERVICES DIVISION FOR DISPOSAL OF
PROPERTY THAT IS NO LONGER VIABLE, 2) REMOVE
CAPITAL ASSETS FROM THE COUNTY’S RECORDS, AND 3)
RECOGNIZE REVENUE GENERATED FROM AUCTION.
Item #16E3
APPROVED A SECOND AMENDMENT TO AGREEMENT NO.
19-072-NS WITH HYLAND SOFTWARE, INC., THE PROVIDER
OF THE COUNTY’S ENTERPRISE CONTENT MANAGEMENT
SYSTEM, IN THE AMOUNT OF $68,220 TO INSTALL AND
CONFIGURE AN UPGRADE TO THE HYLAND SOFTWARE,
AND TO AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE
ATTACHED AMENDMENT.
Item #16F1
RESOLUTION 2024-005: ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING
AMENDMENTS (APPROPRIATING GRANTS, DONATIONS,
CONTRIBUTIONS, OR INSURANCE PROCEEDS) TO THE
FISCAL YEAR 2023-24 ADOPTED BUDGET. (THE BUDGET
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AMENDMENTS IN THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION HAVE
BEEN REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS VIA SEPARATE EXECUTIVE
SUMMARIES.)
Item #16F2
AUTHORIZED THE COUNTY MANAGER, AS AUTHORIZED
AGENT, TO EXECUTE A FEDERALLY FUNDED SUBAWARD
AND GRANT AGREEMENT THROUGH THE FLORIDA
DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR
REIMBURSEMENT OF EXPENDITURES ASSOCIATED WITH
PREPARATION FOR AND RECOVERY FROM HURRICANE
IDALIA.
Item #16F3 (Moved to Item #11J Per Agenda Change Sheet)
Item #16F4 (Moved to Item #11K Per Agenda Change Sheet)
Item #16F5
APPROVED 1) CHANGE ORDER NO. 5 UNDER AGREEMENT
NO. 20-7680 FOR THE PELICAN BAY SIDEWALK
IMPROVEMENT DESIGN WITH AGNOLI, BARBER &
BRUNDAGE, INC., TO ADD THE AMOUNT OF $94,816.00 FOR
ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES TO REVISE THE
ORIGINAL DESIGNS AND PERFORM CONTRACT
ADMINISTRATION SERVICES DURING PHASE 2
CONSTRUCTION, 2) AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN
THE ATTACHED CHANGE ORDER, AND 3) APPROVED THE
NECESSARY BUDGET AMENDMENT. (PROJECT NO. 50178)
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Item #16F6 (Moved to Item #11H Per Agenda Change Sheet)
Item #16F7
AWARDED INVITATION TO BID (“ITB”) NO. 22-8005,
“JANITORIAL SERVICES,” ZONES 1, 3 & 4 TO: HIGH
SOURCES INC., AS PRIMARY VENDOR, AND 3H & 3H, INC.,
AS SECONDARY VENDOR; AND ITB NO. 22-8005S,
“JANITORIAL SERVICES SUPPLEMENTAL,” ZONE 2 TO:
AMERICAN FACILITY SERVICES, INC., AS PRIMARY
VENDOR, AND HIGH SOURCES INC., AS SECONDARY
VENDOR, FOR COUNTY-WIDE JANITORIAL CLEANING
SERVICES AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE
ATTACHED AGREEMENTS.
Item #16F8
AWARDED INVITATION TO BID (“ITB”) NO. 23-8169,
PAINTING AND PRESSURE WASHING SERVICES, TO
FLORIDA SERVICE PAINTING, INC., D/B/A SERVICE
CONTRACTING SOLUTIONS, AND AUTHORIZE THE
CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE ATTACHED AGREEMENT.
Item #16F9 (Moved to Item #11I Per Agenda Change Sheet)
Item #16F10 (Moved to Item #11L Per Agenda Change Sheet)
Item #16F11
AUTHORIZED EXPENDITURES EXCEEDING THE $50,000
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COMPETITIVE THRESHOLD, UNDER AN EXEMPTION FROM
THE COMPETITIVE PROCESS, THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2027,
FOR BRAXTON COLLEGE TO PROVIDE EMS SUPERVISED
SKILL TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE TO STUDENTS
ENROLLING IN EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES
TECHNOLOGY PROGRAMS.
Item #16J1
RECORDED IN THE MINUTES OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS, THE CHECK NUMBER (OR OTHER
PAYMENT METHOD), AMOUNT, PAYEE, AND PURPOSE FOR
WHICH THE REFERENCED DISBURSEMENTS IN THE
AMOUNT OF $29,973,244.55 WERE DRAWN FOR THE
PERIODS BETWEEN NOVEMBER 30, 2023 AND DECEMBER
13, 2023 PURSUANT TO FLORIDA STATUTE 136.06.
Item #16J2
RECORDED IN THE MINUTES OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS, THE CHECK NUMBER (OR OTHER
PAYMENT METHOD), AMOUNT, PAYEE, AND PURPOSE FOR
WHICH THE REFERENCED DISBURSEMENTS IN THE
AMOUNT OF $46,469,660.77 WERE DRAWN FOR THE
PERIODS BETWEEN DECEMBER 14, 2023 AND DECEMBER
27, 2023 PURSUANT TO FLORIDA STATUTE 136.06.
Item #16J3
REQUESTED THAT THE BOARD APPROVE AND DETERMINE
VALID PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR INVOICES PAYABLE AND
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PURCHASING CARD TRANSACTIONS AS OF DECEMBER 20,
2023.
Item #16J4
REQUESTED THAT THE BOARD APPROVE AND DETERMINE
VALID PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR INVOICES PAYABLE AND
PURCHASING CARD TRANSACTIONS AS OF JANUARY 3,
2024.
Item #16J5
REPORTED TO THE BOARD REGARDING THE INVESTMENT
OF COUNTY FUNDS AS OF THE QUARTER ENDED
SEPTEMBER 30, 2023.
Item #16K1
RESOLUTION 2024-006: APPOINTED 2 MEMBERS TO THE
GOLDEN GATE COMMUNITY CENTER ADVISORY BOARD.
Item #16K2
RESOLUTION 2024-007: REAPPOINT 3 MEMBERS TO THE
HOUSING FINANCE AUTHORITY.
Item #16K3
AUTHORIZED THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO FILE A LAWSUIT
ON BEHALF OF THE COLLIER COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS, FOR ITS EMERGENCY MEDICAL
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SERVICES DEPARTMENT, AGAINST MATTHEW RAY
BRENNAN, AS THE PERSONAL REPRESENTATIVE OF THE
ESTATE OF JUDITH L. JACOBSON, IN COUNTY SMALL
CLAIMS COURT TO RECOVER AN OBJECTED-TO
AMBULANCE BILL TOTALING $1,070, PLUS ATTORNEY’S
FEES AND COSTS OF LITIGATION.
Item #16K4
APPROVED AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE
THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO AGREEMENT FOR LEGAL
SERVICES RELATING TO THE COUNTY’S RETENTION
AGREEMENT WITH BOY AGNEW POTANOVIC MILLER,
PLLC, EXTENDING THE EXPIRATION DATE TO JANUARY 9,
2026 WITH THREE ONE-YEAR RENEWALS AND INCREASING
THE LAW FIRM’S HOURLY RATES. THERE IS NO NEW
FISCAL IMPACT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS AMENDMENT.
Item #16K5
RESOLUTION 2024-008: REAPPOINT TWO MEMBERS TO THE
OCHOPEE FIRE DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
Item #17A
RESOLUTION 2024-009: APPROVED PETITION VAC-
PL20220006722, TO DISCLAIM, RENOUNCE, AND VACATE
THE COUNTY AND THE PUBLIC INTEREST IN THE
NORTHERN 30 FEET OF THE EASTERLY 140 FEET OF
COCONUT RIVER, LOCATED ALONG THE SOUTHERLY
BORDER OF LOT 27 OF COCONUT RIVER UNIT NO. 1,
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ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF AS RECORDED IN
PLAT BOOK 3, PAGE 58, OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF
COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA, LOCATED AT 1480 AIRPORT-
PULLING ROAD NORTH, NAPLES, FL 34104, AT THE
SOUTHWEST QUADRANT OF AIRPORT-PULLING ROAD
NORTH AND LONGBOAT DRIVE, IN SECTION 35, TOWNSHIP
49 SOUTH, RANGE 25 EAST, COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA,
AND TO ACCEPT PETITIONER’S GRANT OF REPLACEMENT
EASEMENTS.
Item #17B
ORDINANCE 2024-001: APPROVED A REZONING
ORDINANCE FOR THE 12425 UNION ROAD RPUD TO ALLOW
UP TO 109 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS ON 51.5± ACRES
OF PROPERTY LOCATED IN PORT OF THE ISLANDS,
APPROXIMATELY ½ MILE NORTH OF TAMIAMI TRAIL EAST
(US 41) AT 12400 AND 12425 UNION ROAD, IN SECTION 4,
TOWNSHIP 52, RANGE 28, COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA.
(PL20220004175)
January 9, 2024
There being no further business for the good of the County, the
meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 2:48 p.m.
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS/EX
OFFICIO GOVERNING BOARD(S) OF
SPECIAL DISTRICTS UNDER ITS CONTROL
CHRIS IC, CHAI AN
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CRYSTTAL.'K. KTNZEL, CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT &
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TRANSCRIPT PREPARED ON BEHALF OF FORT MYERS
COURT REPORTING BY TERRI L. LEWIS, REGISTERED
PROFESSIONAL COURT REPORTER, FPR-C, AND
NOTARY PUBLIC.
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