DSAC Agenda 10/04/2023Development Services Advisory
Committee
Meeting
Wednesday, October 4, 2023
3:00 pm
2800 N. Horseshoe Dr.
Naples, FL 34104
Growth Management Department
Conference Room 609/610
If you have any questions or wish to meet with
staff, please contact
Julie Chardon at 252-2413
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Development Services Advisory Committee
Agenda
Wednesday, October 4, 2023
3:00 pm
2800 N. Horseshoe Dr., Naples, FL 34104 Growth Management Community Development,
Conference Rooms 609/610
NOTICE:
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1. Call to order - Chairman.
2. Approval of Agenda
3. Approval of Minutes:
a. DSAC meeting – September 6, 2023
b. DSAC Subcommittee- August 31, 2023
4. Public Speakers
5. Staff Announcements/Updates
a. Development Review Division – [Jaime Cook]
b. Code Enforcement Division – [Thomas Iandimarino]
c. Community Planning & Resiliency Division- [Christopher Mason]
d. Public Utilities Department – [Matt McLean]
e. Housing Policy & Economic Development Division. - [Sarah Harrington]
f. Growth Management Dept. Transportation Engineering Division – [Jay Ahmad or designee]
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g. Collier County Fire Review – [Michael Cruz, Assistant Chief, Fire Marshal]
h. North Collier Fire Review – [Chief Sean Lintz]
i. Operations & Regulatory Mgmt. Division – [Michael Stark]
j. Zoning Division – [Mike Bosi]
6. New Business
a. New Code to Eliminate Pool Master Permits- [Richard Long]
b. Introduction of AHAC-DSAC Liaison
7. Old Business
8. Committee Member Comments
9. Adjourn
FUTURE MEETING DATES:
November 1, 2023- 3:00 pm
December 6, 2023- 3:00pm
January 4, 2024- 3:00pm
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Staff Liaison, Operations & Regulatory Management ________________________________
Julie Chardon, Operations Support Specialist II
Staff Liaison, Operations & Regulatory Management ________________________________
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October 4, 2023, DSAC Meeting
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MINUTES OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
Naples, Florida
September 6, 2023
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, the Collier County Development Services Advisory
Committee, in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on
this date at 3 P.M. in REGULAR SESSION at the Collier County Growth Management
Community Department Building, Conference Room #609/610, 2800 Horseshoe Drive
North, Naples, Florida, with the following members present:
Chairman: William J. Varian
Vice Chairman: Blair Foley(excused)
James E. Boughton
Clay Brooker
Jeff Curl
David Dunnavant
John English
Marco Espinar (excused)
Norman Gentry
Mark McLean
Chris Mitchell
Robert Mulhere (excused)
Laura Spurgeon-DeJohn
Jeremy Sterk
Mario Valle (excused)
ALSO PRESENT:
Jaime Cook, Director, Development Review
Thomas Iandimarino, Director, Code Enforcement
Chris Mason, Director, Community Planning & Resiliency
Drew Cody, Senior Project Manager, Utilities Planning
Sarah Harrington, Interim Dir., Housing Policy & Economic Development
Lorraine Lantz, Planner III, Transportation Engineering
Michael Stark, Director, Operations & Regulatory Mgt. Division
Jason Badge, Project Mgt. Spvr., Operations & Regulatory Mgt. Division
Rich Long, Director, Building Plan Review & Inspection
Diane Lynch, Management Analyst 1/Staff Liaison GMCD
Julie Chardon, Ops Support Specialist II, GMCD
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Any persons needing the verbatim record of the meeting may request a copy of the
audio recording from the Collier County Growth Management Community
Department.
1. Call to Order – Chairman
Chairman Varian called the meeting to order at 3 p.m.
A quorum of nine was present in the boardroom; two joined later.
2. Approval of Agenda
Mr. Curl moved to approve the agenda. Mr. Boughton seconded it. The motion
passed unanimously, 9-0.
3. Approval of Minutes
a. DSAC Meeting – August 2, 2023
Mr. Curl made a motion to approve the August 2, 2023, DSAC meeting minutes. Mr.
Gentry seconded it. The motion passed unanimously, 9-0.
4. Public Speakers
(None)
5. Staff Announcements/Updates
a. Development Review Division – [Jaime Cook, Director]
Ms. Cook told the DSAC:
x Last week we had the first subcommittee meeting for updates to the Right of
Way Manual.
x John, Chris, and Blair gave us some great suggestions and feedback on what
we’ve done so far and things they would like to see.
x We’re going to continue to work with our consultant, make some of those
changes, and follow up with a second subcommittee meeting before we bring it
to you.
Mr. Curl said he’s submitted two requests in the past three weeks or a month and was
told they don’t exist for the individual project. Granted, some are from the early 80s or
early 90s, so they’re all scanned. Perhaps it’s how they’re tagged or filed, but when
he’s told they don’t exist and he needs to submit an SDPI from an SDP and say it
doesn’t exist, he knows it exists. He sends it back and they eventually provide what he
needs. He doesn’t know if it’s caused by a third-party scanner problem or something
else, but it’s absolutely broken. He and Diane (Lynch) dealt with this two weeks ago.
[Mr. McLean joined the meeting at 3:03 p.m.]
Ms. Cook asked Michael Stark, who heads their records team, to answer the question.
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Mr. Stark apologized for any delay. If the records do exist, we’ll do our best to make
sure that if our searches don’t come back with the information, we will reach out to you
in a timely manner, so we apologize for any inconvenience.
Mr. Curl said he’s not looking for an apology. He’d like forensics done because he’s
spoken to other county personnel and it’s not because someone isn’t doing their job. It’s
because there’s a filing issue or metadata problem, with the way it’s tagged
electronically. He’s heard of top management taking hours to find data from the 80s.
Should upper management be searching for records?
Mr. Stark said no.
Mr. Curl said he appreciates the apology, but he’d like some sleuthing done on this
because even if another employee needs to be brought in to sift through, filter or figure
out what’s going on, that’s time well spent versus upper management taking hours to do
that task.
[Mr. Boughton joined the meeting at 3:05 p.m.]
Mr. Boughton said he had a similar situation this month and requested some
documents. Initially, there was no response and he checked again and then got a couple
documents that weren’t drawings. He was looking for drawings. They said this was all
they could find. The next day he got more, so somebody followed through or found
something. But it makes you wonder if there’s a problem.
Mr. Curl said Annis is amazing, a whiz kid. She finds a document within 20 seconds,
so it’s not a personnel issue. Maybe it’s navigational, such as where the documents are.
If you could look into it, he’d appreciate it.
Mr. Stark said he’d look into it.
Chairman Varian asked Ms. Cook about page 11 in the agenda packet, a monthly total
of site plan, resubmittal, and corrections. Why is it there, why do you track it and
what’s the purpose of letting us see that?
Ms. Cook said people often can’t get through to the county, so the county keeps track
of how many times plans come back to us and how many times we have to make the
same comment about “put this in the plans, remove this and show this.” We keep track
as a way to see how many times we’re reviewing the same SDP or plat, just like the
Building Department shows how many times they’re reviewing the same building
permit.
Chairman Varian asked if they keep track of the first, second and third, etc., so this is
38 this month, a compilation of that?
Ms. Cook confirmed it was.
b. Code Enforcement Division – [Thomas Iandimarino, Director]
Mr. Iandimarino provided a report on the monthly statistics:
x Contractor Licensing sent out about 3,000 notices for renewals and about
1,100 have come back so far.
x They have until the end of the month to get them in. After September 30th,
it goes into delinquent status, and you’ll be in delinquency until the end of
the year to renew and they will be suspended after that.
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x The rest of the information is in the agenda packet.
x We have hired three new staff members in the last two weeks. Two already
started and one started this week. It’s good to have a Code Enforcement
fully staffed.
Mr. Brooker asked if he goes on Cityview to search a property, how up-to-date are
Code Enforcement cases?
Mr. Iandimarino said they’re up to date. Within 24 hours, they’ll be in there. If it’s put
in today, they’re updated as you go.
Chairman Varian said he wanted to give kudos to his staff. He has a corner lot and a
man put up a fence near his street. He (Varian) has a truck so he can sort of see over it,
although it’s a solid fence, but his wife can’t, and it blocks the view. Within 24 hours,
he saw there was a stop-work order, so county staff acted quickly. It’s a difficult corner
to see if you’re coming in that direction, south on 39.
Mr. Iandimarino said there are a lot of blind corners where you have to sneak around.
Chairman Varian said he has to inch along in his truck, but his wife couldn’t see
because of the fence.
c. Community Planning & Resiliency Division [Chris Mason, Director]
Mr. Mason reported that:
x As of August 8, we received our Letter of Final Determination for the new
Flood Insurance Rate Maps, which is related to the Coastal Preliminary Study.
x Those will have to be adopted by the county by February 8, six months from the
date of the letter.
Chairman Varian asked if there were any major changes or worries.
Mr. Mason responded that:
x We’ve done some analysis that’s approximate enough. There are a number of
structures coming out of the Special Flood Hazard Area, a little more than the
number going in.
x One of the areas we’re concerned about is Letters of Map Changes being
superseded or rescinded. Those no longer would be affected for certain
communities that are going to be pretty coastal facing.
d. Public Utilities Department [Drew Cody, Senior Project Manager]
Mr. Cody reported that:
x We’ve been working on our FDEP review process. We hoped to have that ready
to roll over into a new, more streamlined process before this meeting, but that
didn’t happen. We’re close.
x We expect to have it implemented this month, but we’re looking at reducing
how many FDP permits we’re commenting on and correcting. We’re looking at
tailoring that back to what we’re signing as the utility provider.
x There are many things that have gone on with applications where it’s starting to
feel like we’re doing them, not just signing off as the utility provider. We have
ones where applicants are getting 20-plus comments, including, “The project
name on the second page is the last project you submitted to us, not the project
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we’re reviewing today.” We’re ready to walk away from those and start
focusing on things we’re signing as a utility.
x That will benefit you guys because we’ll get through faster. We’re not checking
every single box on a 16-page sewer form or spending that amount of time.
Chairman Varian asked what the turn-around time target is. He noted they were
getting upwards of two months.
Mr. Cody responded that:
x Our target time is always five days. That’s our goal. Five business days and 10
days is our outside limit, but we noticed that particularly in the northeast, we’ve
had issues with how permits are coming in and how we’re trying to get them
lined up.
x They’re being submitted with expectations of plants that are still in construction
and we can’t submit to FDEP for a plant that’s not online and taking flows.
x It’s created a lot of back and forth with applicants that we should have cleaned
up once we get new templates and new guidance loaded in the next couple of
weeks, before the next meeting.
x That’s a procedural drag, particularly at the director level and in the northeast,
we have things on the high end well into 30 business days. When you add in
weekends and holidays, that’s aggressive.
x As we’ve pulled those on, they’re dragging our averages up on FDEP permits a
bit separate from routine ones. It looks bad in this chart because we had so
many for the northeast.
e. Housing Policy & Economic Development [Sarah Harrington, Interim Director]
Ms. Harrington said the plans for the AHAC liaison sitting on DSAC are progressing
and we anticipate it will be going before the Board of County Commissioners on
September 12.
f. GMD Transportation Engineering Division [Lorraine Lantz, Planner III]
Ms. Lantz provided updates on Wilson Boulevard transportation projects:
x Jay Ahmad told her they had questions about Wilson Boulevard last month.
x There are two projects there, Wilson Widening and Wilson Extension.
x The Wilson Widening is in design. We did the study for Wilson, from
Immokalee to Golden Gate Boulevard, a widening project. It’s now in design to
widen it from two lanes to four lanes.
x Ultimately, that will be in the right-of-way. It’s an aggressive schedule, so it’s
in design. It’ll go into right-of-way in fiscal year 2024.
x Wilson Extension. From Wilson Boulevard, it’s getting a bridge from where it
terminates now to over the canal to the Frangipani Avenue-Tobias Street area.
x The project will pick up from where the bridge lands down Tobias Street and
will connect to City Gate Boulevard North. We’re working on a couple of
alignments and are still trying to figure that out.
x There are a lot of landfills, utilities and well sites in that area, so we were
slightly delayed, but we’re expecting to move forward in early spring.
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Mr. Brooker told Ms. Lantz:
x He exchanged emails with her today and thanked her for the information.
x There’s an Orlando law firm that’s sending out solicitations to property owners along a
route that’s been published. He knows there have been studies of possible routes, but
they’re already fishing for business, even though the route has not been finally
determined. He wanted her to know.
x Last month, he asked about a road project in Palm River, on Cypress Way East. Jay was
going to look into it. Could he get an update next month? He lives in that area and is
getting multiple complaints from neighbors who say big back hoes are parked in their
front yards. There’s no staging area there and they’re moving along at a crawl.
Ms. Lantz said they’ll check on that. She believes it’s a stormwater project, a weir they’re
working on, but she’ll double check.
Mr. Brooker said he believed it was a stormwater and sidewalk project.
Mr. Curl said he was going to ask about the attorney letters involving the Wilson Extension.
What’s the next step in that process? Will it be public hearings where you then narrow down
the final routing?
Ms. Lantz responded that:
x For the Wilson Boulevard Extension, they’ve had two public meetings to narrow down
the corridor to come up with a central corridor, but we’re still refining the alignment.
x Once we have an alignment, typically we would go to another public hearing or public
meeting. Then we would go to the Board of County Commissioners, and they would
have to adopt/approve a recommendation about the alignment. After that, it would
move into design.
x Marlene’s and Jay’s group would have to come up with the design.
x Law firms that do eminent domain look at the Transportation Planning website, see a
corridor alignment and start canvassing. They’ve canvassed all our property and
projects, including Wilson and Randall. Once they see an alignment, they start
canvassing.
Mr. Curl said he saw something at the Sky Sail community at the end of DeSoto Boulevard.
They haven’t completed their berm. It looks like DeSoto is meant to carry on northward.
Ms. Lantz said that’s one of their entrances. It may be a construction entrance at this point.
Their main entrance is off what will eventually be Big Cypress Parkway.
Chairman Varian asked if Collier Boulevard and City Gate North to Green Boulevard is
somewhere in the process. You determined the bridge would be on 29th?
Ms. Lantz said she believes it would be on 27th and would coordinate with where Bigshots
Golf was supposed to come in; it’s no longer coming in. That project is back in design, at about
60%. That will go to a public meeting to say where they are.
Chairman Varian asked what fiscal year that would be.
Ms. Lantz said it will go into construction in fiscal year 2025.
Mr. Cody told Mr. Brooker that the project he asked about is a Public Utilities renewal project
and they’re working with Stormwater. If you could provide details about the problems you’re
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seeing or it’s within the entire project and ongoing phases, he can pass that along to the project
managers who are in charge and we can work from there.
Mr. Brooker said he would and thanked him.
g. Collier County Fire Review [Shar Beddow, Deputy Fire Marshal]
Deputy Fire Marshal Beddow reported that:
x We had 428 building plan reviews and 43 planning reviews.
x Both were done within two days.
x The new system project permits were 274 for fire alarms and 10 for sprinklers.
x Sprinkler statistics are for the new bill that passed as of July 1st. It’s the same as the
statute for fire alarms, but they modified it for sprinklers.
x We planned an ICC (International Code Council) class on lithium-ion batteries and tall
timber buildings but it was canceled due to Hurricane Ian; she doesn’t know if it will be
rescheduled.
x On September 7 and 8, Director JoAnne Rice, from the Division of the State Fire
Marshal, will present a lithium-ion symposium at the Florida State Fire College. It’s
about the hazards and using samples taken by the NIST (National Institute of Standards
and Technology) on the barrier islands, where there were fires that resulted from
lithium-ion batteries. We’re trying to be as safe as we can be due to the hazards.
x We’re having a prevention event at the mall on October 7, in conjunction with the zoo.
Several thousand kids usually attend.
x We’ll have a side-by-side burn on November 2 at the Collier County School Board’s
main administration office.
x NFPA 72 (National Fire Protection Association). Everybody knows that this coming
January is the big code-cycle change. We will see a change in NFPA 13, NFPA 72 fire
alarms, and all the other subsidiary codes, so we have an NFPA instructor coming in to
tell us the difference between the 2016 and 2019 NFPA 72 Code for fire alarms to try to
get us ahead of the curve for January.
x The classes and some of the mall events were paid for by fundraisers done collectively
by the Lee and Collier associations. One is the Clay Shoot on January 13, 2024. We had
200 shooters last year. She has flyers if anyone is interested.
Chairman Varian asked how the inspection side was doing.
Deputy Fire Marshal Beddow said we switched over to a new software system two months
ago. We were working with EPR Systems Fireworks, a software system that allows all sections
within the fire department to speak to one another. She didn’t bring those figures today.
Chairman Varian asked how we’re doing with not having a yellow tag in here for COs. Are
you still working on that when you do final inspections?
Deputy Fire Marshal Beddow said she believes Capt. Mejika is working on that.
Chairman Varian said that would be helpful for us not having to do the inspection.
Deputy Fire Marshal Beddow said she’ll let Chief Cruz know that the appeal is there. She’ll
ask him to provide an update at the next meeting.
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h. North Collier Fire Review [Daniel Zunzunegui, Deputy Director]
Mr. provided the August report:
x We had a three-day turnaround for building reviews and a two-day turnaround
for planning.
x We conducted 686 reviews.
x We’re pretty caught up with the queue and have staff working weeks in
advance.
x Looking back historically, August wasn’t as high as the volume we’re used to,
so it’s a good chance to get ahead.
x If you have questions about the sprinkler system legislation being added, he can
answer them.
x There was a legislative update involving two-way radio enhancement. On the
building side, it’s whenever the local AHJ (Authorities Having Jurisdiction)
determines there’s a communication issue inside a building, maybe due to the
construction of the elements, and we can’t key up inside. They can determine
we need a bidirectional amplifier (BDA) system, so there were changes to the
legislation. It exempts some occupancies. Two-story apartments or fewer don’t
have to do it. There are stipulations on if one is determined to be needed, you
can’t withhold a TCO on a building, so there’s further guidance within that
legislation for local AHJs. That was HB 1575, which was effective July 1st.
Mr. Boughton said he’s seen situations where the source or the signal comes from the local
fire station. Is that usually how it works or are there central locations? It seems like it would be
less expensive if the fire department put in more broadcast points than individual owners in a
neighborhood having to add these really expensive systems.
Mr. Zunzunegui replied that:
x It falls under the county umbrella and the county telecommunications manager.
x Before we even evaluate these permits, we may determine it’s needed but we work in
partnership with the county telecommunications team because they will commission
these systems and make sure they meet FCC guidelines.
x It’s not our antennas that need boosting, it’s the county system for the 911 system.
x The antennas spread and distribution acts as a boost internally to a structure so we can
communicate, and it’s managed.
x It can be put in improperly and then it can overpower the county system, so it’s done
delicately to ensure that when they commission the system, it’s done properly and
doesn’t end with other systems popping up. It ensures they’re accounted for.
x When they’re completed, there is guidance on when to reevaluate it annually or on a
five-year basis, depending on what kind of building it is. A high-rise has a more
restrictive maintenance cycle than a mid-rise.
x This is limited to occupancies where it does apply.
x We have difficulty communicating and it’s a public safety issue. It’s not just a working
fire scenario, it could be a medical or police issue. We all work off the same emergency
communication system.
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Mr. Dunnavant told the DSAC:
x The bigger problem was that there were a lot of existing buildings that had to comply in
a short time frame.
x There are about six people or fewer certified in Florida to create systems. The backlog
is horrendous.
x Even if you create a private system, you can put hundreds of thousands of dollars into a
system, and it may or may not work, and he doesn’t know what the ACA (American
Communications Association) does at that point.
x There are numerous issues that have only been addressed on the surface.
x The good thing is that to date, there hasn’t been strict enforcement. It’s a mess because
there are very few people who can do it.
x You can set up a system in your building for a lot of money and it may or may not work
after-the-fact. Maybe you could do it if you design it into it, but it’s not a clear picture
and the original legislation was a little pie in the sky in what it sought to achieve.
Mr. Zunzunegui told the DSAC:
x Within the legislation, there are requirements for high rises. Most high rises definitely
will have a communication barrier.
x In Collier County, in partnership with the telecommunications team, we make sure that
it’s only where needed, so they’ll do native testing. They’ll look at areas of the building
that need boosting. It may not be on every floor.
x We have a very responsible process and good design professionals installing systems.
x The process with the fire districts, local fire marshals and the county is working great,
so we’re very cautious to only put them where we need them.
x If our team and plan review were to receive a permit without a letter from the local fire
marshal or and a letter from Nathan Hinkle, the telecommunications manager, that says
they’re signing off on the installation and they feel it’s required and necessary, we will
reject it. We need letters of consent from AHJs.
x That’s what we’ve been doing moving forward.
i. Operations & Regulatory Management Division – [Michael Stark, Director]
Mr. Stark introduced Jason Badge, the county’s CityView software administrator.
Last month, you had a question the last time about text messages and the response
from the system and he’s here to provide more insight into the system.
Mr. Badge told the DSAC:
x He was told a DSAC member asked if we have the ability to add multiple phone
numbers on the portal so that when you’re scheduling inspections, you can get multiple
text messages sent to different people.
x We don’t have that functionality now. We’d need to work with our developers to make
a programming change to the core code of the way the software works to enable that,
and it would be part of a future software update.
x Alternatively, as a workaround, we currently have the option for e-mail addresses to be
put in. If someone wanted to contact multiple people to get notifications, they could
have a general e-mail address put in there and then they could set up that e-mail so they
can forward it to multiple emails so others could receive inspection notifications.
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Chairman Varian said he figured that would be the answer. When you do your update, let’s
look at considering that because we would all agree we’re so busy now and have multiple
people covering things, and if they all got that message, he might be in a meeting, and it could
be 20 minutes later before he could forward that to one of his guys. It’s something to consider.
Mr. Badge said it would cost the county money to have the vendor make a change. If it’s
something the county and the DSAC decides they want to pursue, we can look into it and find
out what the cost would be. It’s probably $10,000-$20,000.
Chairman Varian said they can talk to the CBIA to see if there’s interest and maybe we can
recommend it. He would love to see it. Mario said the same thing at the last meeting, that it
would work well for his company. He bets it would help many of us.
Mr. Curl said he agreed. That should be a motion. To him, $10,000 is worth it.
Mr. Badge said it’s between $10,000 and $20,000.
Mr. Curl said the credit card functionality on the website is going to take time to understand.
Chairman Varian made a motion to ask the county to research the cost to see if they can
add phone numbers/text capability to the CityView system. It was seconded by Mr. Curl.
The motion passed unanimously, 11-0.
Mr. Dunnavant asked why a plan reviewer is looking at a different screen than he is when he
calls them. They say, “That’s not the way it’s presented to us.” He doesn’t understand why the
public looks at one screen and the reviewer sees another.
Mr. Badge said the reviewer is seeing our software on his desktop, while you have a view of
the portal. The internal desktop software view is designed differently, but it depends on what
you’re talking about. If you’re asking about inspection results or plan review correction
comment, they’re similar. You go to where the plan review was and it has correction
comments on the same page under that review.
Mr. Dunnavant said they don’t present the same information in the same order. The reviewer
always tells him, “Hold on. That’s not the way it’s shown here.” It’s been difficult to get
through in comment review.
Mr. Badge said that depending on the scenario, we can work with plan reviewers to find out
where the breakdown in communication is happening.
Chairman Varian said he’s also seen that. He’s received a screenshot from staff that shows
their view.
Mr. Dunnavant said he wishes he had all that information they have. If he did, he wouldn’t
have had to call them. It’s private, even though it’s supposed to be public.
Mr. Badge said the main desktop software generally has more information available for the
plan reviewer to review. There shouldn’t be anything they can’t find. It could be a training
issue. If you tell us the pain points you’re running into with communication, he can work with
his team to see if we can massage that.
Chairman Varian said it comes down to what we see versus what they see and there is a
difference. He’s seen screenshots of what they can see.
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Mr. Stark detailed the August monthly report:
x The department received 4,616 permit applications through CityView, bringing the
total to 46,598 for the year.
x We’re trending in line with 2019 and 2020, with one month to go in our fiscal year,
and expect to align with those numbers.
x The highest volume of permits is associated with mechanical, shutters, doors,
windows, roofing, electrical and plumbing.
x 354 permits were related to Hurricane Ian.
x Staff processed 42 short-term vacation rentals.
x The zoning front desk had 128 spot surveys, of which 76 are on Certificate of
Occupancy holds.
x Last month, our business center intake staff assisted about 1,312 walk-in customers
and satellite locations welcomed 172 walk-in customers.
x The Call Center received 5,749 calls to the main number, with an average call lasting
about three minutes.
x The department currently employs 308 full-time employees and 22 are in the hiring
pipeline.
x Over the last six months, we’ve decreased from 36 vacant positions to 22, so we’ve
seen stability within the workforce. We have internal promotions and are seeing that
level of stability throughout. It’s been beneficial to the team.
x We had some storm events last week. In Everglades City, we were closed for one day,
but there were no other significant impacts to the county.
x We also had the holiday event, so some of the roughly 250 permit applications we
normally see daily caused a higher intake, but the team is working to get through that.
Chairman Varian asked about the inspection count of 26,000+. Was overtime involved?
Mr. Stark said we cut back overtime. We’ve been able to accomplish work in a normal amount of
time. If there is overtime, it must be approved by the department head, with a maximum of 10
hours per week. We’ve tried to limit that from a budget standpoint. Tomorrow night, we’re
meeting with the Board of County Commissioners for their next budget meeting.
Chairman Varian said about two or three months ago, there was an RFP for replacing the
skylights and everything at the front entry. Did that go through or is it still going through?
Mr. Stark said it’s moving forward. We have several capital projects in the pipeline, including
roofing. We have campus safety issues we also want to address. We’re looking at the potential for
this room, as well as bringing in new technology. For the front entrance, we wanted to go with
sliding doors. We’re still moving forward. It was difficult to find GCs and we’ll have to bring them
down from the Fort Myers area. Then Hurricane Idalia hit, so we’re still moving forward, but that
may move into fiscal year 2024.
Chairman Varian asked if most of this work is coming out of our funds, the 113 Fund, or does
the county kick in anything from the general fund?
Mr. Stark said yes, from the 113 Fund.
Mr. Dunnavant said he wasn’t familiar with the Milestone Inspection status pie chart. It’s not due
until 2024.
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Mr. Stark said that’s from Rich Long and his group.
Mr. Long explained that:
x The Milestone Inspection is for buildings three stories and above that need to be evaluated
by an engineer based on the year they were CO’d.
x For buildings within three miles of the coast, it’s 25 years after the CO and then every 10
years from that.
x Anything other than that is 30 years.
x The laws have changed a bit. They threw it at us and then they adjusted it the next year.
x Now they have a grace period, so we’ve got until 2024 to get those done.
x We’ve sent out all the letters to those buildings and we track them as they come in.
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x There are nearly 900 buildings affected (890).
x 21 were already completed.
x Engineers are busy.
x After Hurricane Ian, the county tried to encourage HOAs and cooperatives to tackle the
Milestone Inspections while they were evaluating structures and beach high rises for
hurricane damage, but we can only suggest things.
Mr. Mitchell said he had a question for Jaime Cook. This morning, he had a pre-con and Mike
Leonard mentioned they were down from 15 days to 10 days on inspection requests. Is that a
position of need? Do you have it posted and do you need support? Because 10 days seems like a
long time, but it’s better than 15. He’s had conversations with Joe this past year and heard they
could use more inspection staff.
Ms. Cook said you’re right. Inspection staff could use some support. All her inspector positions
are filled. We’re also utilizing inspectors from Nova and Joe has been instrumental in getting all
his staff cross-trained, so they can help with some of the utilities with Mike, Leroy, for site
inspections, with Kyle. She would not turn down additional help, but they’re still working with
Nova.
j. Zoning Division – [Mike Bosi, Director]
(None)
6. New Business
7. Old Business
(None)
8. Committee Member Comments
(None)
9. Adjourn
Future Meeting Dates:
3 p.m. Oct. 4, 2023
3 p.m. Nov. 1, 2023
3 p.m. Dec. 6, 2023
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MINUTES OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE
ROW HANDBOOK UPDATES SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING
Naples, Florida, August 31, 2023
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, the Collier County Development Services Advisory
Committee, in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein,
met on this date at 3 P.M. in REGULAR SESSION at the Collier County Growth
Management Community Department Building, Conference Room #609/610,
2800 Horseshoe Drive North, Naples, Florida, with the following members
present:
Chairman: Blair Foley
John English
Chris Mitchell
ALSO PRESENT:
Jaime Cook, Director, Development Review
Joshua Hildebrand, County Consultant, Johnson Engineering
Brett Rosenblum, County Consultant, Johnson Engineering
Diane Lynch, Management Analyst 1/Staff Liaison GMCD
Julie Chardon, Ops Support Specialist II, GMCD
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Any persons in need of the verbatim record of the meeting may request a copy of the audio
recording from the Collier County Growth Management Community Department.
1. Call to Order
Ms. Cook called the meeting to order at 2 p.m.
2. Approval of Agenda
(No changes/Approved)
3. New Business
a. Proposed ROW Handbook
Ms. Cook introduced Josh Hildebrand, the county consultant from Johnson Engineering.
Another member of Johnson Engineering is on Zoom and will be taking notes. Staff worked
with Johnson Engineering to do basic updates to the Right-of-way Handbook. On page 45,
there’s a generic summary of the changes, most of which are formatting, organizational and
areas where we’ve made modifications. Do you want to review it page by page or work on
specific items?
Mr. Hildebrand said there are three versions of the Right-of-Way Handbook in your packet.
The first manual through page 44 is the document as it stands today. On page 46 is the red-
lined version, which shows all the proposed changes from staff. Starting on page 123 is what
the final document would look like. We left some of the exhibits at the end with the old version
for now and will update page numbers later to clarify what’s in your packet.
A discussion ensued and the subcommittee agreed to work on the handbook point by point as
they go through each section and to summarize the changes.
Mr. Hildebrand recommended that they start on p. 46 and outlined about 15 general changes
that he and Laura DeJohn highlighted that were repeated throughout, including general
formatting and references with Roman numerals and As and Bs in the old document.
Mr. Rosenblum noted that the original formatting came from Jamie French, who tried to make
it look more like how the LDC was formatted.
Mr. Hildebrand provided a general summary:
x If you don’t like/disagree with any changes, or have comments, that’s why we’re here.
This meeting is to get your input.
x Comments that came in involved a compilation of staff comments as this went through
various departments and we tried to organize them.
x There are some other organizational references, such as to bus CAT shelters, road-noise
walls, etc., that we will go through. We updated terms.
x The biggest change was to better define large development and residential
development.
x There were modifications to blanket permit versus exemptions, what qualifies as
routine maintenance and when it’s appropriate to have a determination made to the
county manager or the designee.
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x There were requests to add a performance-bond requirement, but after discussing it
with staff, that won’t be changed. It was a staff comment and it’s referenced.
x Under 3.3, Roadway Crossing, there was a request for a modification to allow for
micro-tunneling and references to the DOT Utility Accommodation Manual.
x There were updates on driveway types and specifications. Some were to ensure asphalt
and current DOT standards were properly referenced.
x In Chapter 5, there were updates to language to recognize CAT facilities. That wasn’t
there previously, so there was a request to add that.
x There were changes due to organizational consistency and edits.
x There were many updates to application requirements. Some referred to a floppy disk,
etc., so we wanted to ensure it’s consistent with current technologies and ways we do
updates.
x In Appendix C, there were clarifications on collector and arterial definitions.
x We updated some of the indexes so they’re easier to see.
x New CAD line work has been added.
x References to FDOT, the old Marshall Mix material and standard practices were
incorporated and upated.
Chairman Foley asked if the goal is to provide recommendations or will we take that to the
full DSAC to be finalized?
Ms. Cook said not at this point.
Mr. English noted that a lot appears to be clean up, reformatting and modernizing
terminology. He’s interested in time frames, processes, inspections, certifications and
turnovers. Things have changed so much, but he’s not as involved in day-to-day activities as he
once was.
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x Not every project connects to a public right-of-way. A lot of master plan community
work does not, but if you do SDPs and you’re connecting to a public right-of-way, you
need to get a right-of-way permit, so we’re getting an SDP review.
x If you need to do a turn lane, you’d probably show it in your SDP plan, but you have to
go in and apply separately for a right-of-way permit. Then you’re going to get a notice
of intent to issue until you’re ready to start the work.
x If you get a notice that says it’s ready to be picked up and it doesn’t start, you need a
qualifier to come sign the qualifier page and you’re issued the permit.
x You get a review on some right-of-way matters at the time of SDP and a second review
when the right-of-way application goes in. The same people don’t review both.
x Staff tries to be as comprehensive as possible.
x Staff coordinates with Transportation and with South Horseshoe, but the transportation
and utilities staff receive an official email stating that the right-of-way work has been
submitted, they receive documents from the portal and are asked to please provide
feedback.
x It’s probably a more comprehensive review from other departments at time of right-of-
way than it may be during SDP. Staff tries to hit as much as we can during SDP but
may not hit everything.
x Once you pick up a permit, it’s good for 180 days.
x If you need it longer, you can extend it and pay extra.
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x The process seems to be pretty good.
x We try to get our right-of-way permit in after we get first comments back on the SDP,
so if there’s anything from different reviewers that we can incorporate, we don’t have
to look at SDP approval with certain elements internally that are going to be different at
the right-of-way level.
x Depending on the size of your site, work in the right-of-way may happen all at once or
in multiple steps, so it can be complicated.
x After the mention of inspections, it said it did not constitute turnover to the county, so
the applicant was still responsible for other things.
x There’s no process that provides a final check off to show that’s no longer private
infrastructure responsibility, such as turn lanes or widening both sides of the road.
Utilities has that process. There’s no paperwork, but there is an inspection process and
a sign-off and record drawings.
x During the inspection, Joe Bianchi, or one of the inspectors, is out with a road
maintenance staff member and they do a joint inspection. Once both groups say we’re
good, then it’s done. There’s no actual item that goes to the board. You don’t get a
letter but get an approval on your final inspection.
x Once the final inspection is passed in CityView, the permit is complete. The right-of-
way has to be completed. That’s when you get your SAF.
Mr. Mitchell said his biggest hurdles are review times because they slide out there or have in
the past. He’s not a fan of six months because you could have something where you’re doing
the turn lane, but you don’t come back and do utilities until later. Although it’s unique, One
Naples was 18 months to two years’ worth of extensions. It’s not that difficult, but it’s more
money. Why can’t it be a longer period?
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x Mr. English said he had a case where we started doing bigger projects, did some work,
did more work and returned to do more, but the permit expired because it was for nine
months. That’s putting notice on somebody to keep an eye on that. Meanwhile, the SDP
is good for two years.
x The process isn’t easy. Once it’s expired and you don’t renew, you have to get a new
permit, so you have to deal with time delays.
x Mr. English said he had another bigger project and the turn lanes were done and he was
told the inspections were passed. After we got our preliminary acceptance, the first
subdivision, we found out the right-of-way permit wasn’t closed out. You think you’re
tacitly approved because you’ve gotten other approvals.
x If you’re done with your right-of-way, why not issue a letter saying you’re closed out
or you’re done? That will clearly show you’re done with your work and cleared out.
Ms. Cook said it appears the subcommittee wants an approval letter once you’re done and to
tie the right-of-way permit, if it’s tied to an SDP or a PPL or something like that, to tie it
together with expiration dates.
Mr. Mitchell said that would make sense if it’s tied to an SDP. Or if it’s tied to a separate
larger development project it makes sense. There are so many permits and items, and once the
contractor starts, they have the right-of-way, but the contractor never goes to renew it, so it can
cause problems.
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Action Item: Provide an approval letter after the joint inspections by roads and engineering to
say you received final approval after the inspection and you’re done with your work and are
cleared out.
Action Item: Tie the right-of-way permit with an SDP or PPL to tie those expiration dates
together.
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x If it’s associated with a larger development permit, it has a life of X. Why can’t it
match that?
x Do we want that for a right-of-way? It’s a counter-interpretation, giving somebody
latitude to be out there for potentially as long as they want.
x They will still apply for a renewal.
x We would have the ability to keep track of that and have an end date on it, potentially
seven years from now, which is the renewal for an SDP, three years, plus two, plus two.
x It’s reasonable to expect that if you have an 18-month time period for the SDP that
you’re going to take 18 months in the right-of-way. If you’re required to do an
extension, then it’s reasonable to have an extension on the right-of-way from it and the
SDP.
x Staff can go back and look at that. They’re companions of each other.
x For site work, often there’s a site work component up front and there’s a lot of building
that happens for the next nine months to a year, and then there’s more site work done.
x The flow of the project is often analogous to that.
x They may not do it if it’s a subdivision, they may not do the entrance, final drainage,
and any connection with that until the time that it’s not a construction interest.
x It may not come to needing it 95% of the time, but it’s nice to have it go with the SDP
because it’s one more item in the process that you have to do and if it expires, it’s a
long renewal process. It’s not like doing an extension, which is very easy – if you catch
it before it expires.
x Realistically, contractors hold the permit. They’re usually the qualifier. It protects you
guys because if a permit expires, they believe they’re not working in the right-of-way.
But the reality is they’re probably working in the right-of-way because they don’t know
it expired.
Action Item: If you have 18 months for an SDP, you probably will take 18 months in the
right-of-way, so if you’re required to get an extension, consider extending the right-of-way
with the SDP because they’re companion items.
Ms. Cook told the subcommittee:
x They’ve been struggling with an issue on the permitting and inspection side and need
feedback.
x We’re getting a lot of residents who want a great, grand entrance. They want strips of
grass within the driveway all the way to the end of the road.
x We don’t have a process for that.
x If somebody wants an extra-wide driveway because they have an RV or a dump truck
that they park on their Estates property, should it be like a variance process or a
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deviation similar to public facilities deviations or some transportation deviations on the
SDP?
x Should it be an administrative deviation similar to utilities deviations?
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x It’s a good idea.
x Estates homeowners have asked about widths of driveways for that reason.
x The City of Naples has an informal process for that.
x A deviation process would be good to consider. You can identify the code you can’t
meet and justify why. It would be an administrative decision.
x It’s not one-size fits all.
x This involves brick pavers or concrete, something small like 3-inch grass strips or
artificial turf in the right-of-way. It’s an architectural feature. This is in the apron.
x In 30 years, we could be back to people only wanting concrete and asphalt.
x Variations and deviations can create a negative connotation and adversarial condition
between the applicant and the authority with jurisdiction.
x Why are we limiting the driveway width? It’s fine if you mean the impervious area, but
if it’s so minor, we should have a range for width and not use a deviation or variance.
x We can entrust staff to review that and say, “50 feet’s excessive, but maybe 35 feet.”
We’re all engineers and have run a turning radius and 30 feet is not out of the norm,
especially if you have gates.
x Don’t restrict it by a deviation or variance, just say it needs approval. That’s what the
review process is.
x Materials maybe. But are faux grass strips in the middle of concrete any different from
concrete? Probably not.
x We don’t like raising the curb in the right-of-way for driveways, so that could be an
issue, but materials?
x There are things we routinely apply for, such as utility deviations. That’s a needless
rule, so it would be great to take all these things that are reasonable requests and make
them acceptable.
x You need to add something to allow a reasonable person to apply for and get approval
for a reasonable request that many people are going to ask for.
x There needs to be a process because not every location would be the same. The zoning
districts would be different. In Pine Ridge, is a 50-foot-wide driveway going to be
okay? In the Estates, it’s probably not a big deal.
x There are circumstances when this suggested process would be appropriate.
x Let’s get a deviation that everyone could get. We need to identify those who can get it.
There’s a place for a deviation because driveways and materials don’t fit in every
zoning district.
Action Item: Add something to allow approval for a reasonable request for a deviation
involving driveways and rights-of-way.
Mr. Hildebrand told the subcommittee:
x For driveways, page 158 may help guide the discussion. It’s the updated detail we
provided.
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x The older one was tough to read.
x It allows provisions up to 30 feet.
x One modification we added was ensuring we had the 1-foot area at the interface of the
edge of pavement because that area always chips out.
x This shows a range.
A discussion ensued and the subcommittee noted the range was 10-24 feet.
Chairman Foley suggested they go through the changes one-by-one and then discuss extra
items at the end.
Mr. Hildebrand started on page 46 and noted:
x This includes the red-line version of the comments received from staff with some
general cleanup by Johnson Engineering from staff comments for consistency purposes.
x On page 47, most changes involve general formatting, references and minor text edits
that were added.
x The section about Collier Area Transit bus shelters, noise walls and signs was moved
for formatting purposes to Section 2.01.08. It’s noted.
x Page 48, the red-lined version, shows information was moved to Section 3.01.
x On page 49, these are terms and definitions. There were requests to make formatting
changes so we updated it from A, B, C, D through H to a table format.
x In definitions, there was a large development, a project generating greater than 600 trips
was added for clarification purposes at staff’s request. That’s largely used in the context
of fees, not design parameters.
x For residential, the definition was a project that includes single-family duplex buildings
only. There were references throughout the document to residential and large
development. This was to clarify those references.
x On page 51, there’s a small development that refers to any project generating 600
vehicle trips per day or less.
x Residential includes single-family and duplex buildings only. Commercial covers the
rest. Multifamily is a community type.
Mr. Mitchell said that’s confusing. Maybe you want to put in the residential definition that it’s
for those driveways or culverts.
Mr. Rosenblum said someone could consider PPL.
Mr. English said individual lot owner applications make sense.
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x The large and small could say it includes a master plan or residential master plan
communities, or for single-family, you could say individual lot-owner applications.
x We know what this means, but someone should be able to pick this up and intuitively
understand it.
Action Item: Add additional information on the definition of single-family and large and
small.
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Mr. Hildebrand moved to page 51 and told the subcommittee:
x There is a strike-through on arterial collectors. For better clarification, we reference
maps to identify which ones are arterials and collectors. There was some confusion in
the old document, so the intent here is to better identify those via a reference to the
Collier County MPO database.
x On page 52, this is a strikethrough of most of the documents in this portion, but they’re
referenced throughout the Right-of-Way Handbook and other places to help end-users
who are going through the document to reference a specific document so there’s less
confusion.
x On 53, that’s still in a table format, but we’re making reference areas to say that we
referenced throughout the document.
x P. 53 shows manuals added to the list. This is straightforward, but if there are any
manuals that anyone would like added, we can add them.
x P. 54, Permit Requirements, Chapter 2. A lot was administrative. Throughout the
document, there are multiple references to his or her. We made that more gender-neutral
so these are strike-throughs.
x 2.01.04 may warrant discussion. In the old document, it says the permit will expire 180
days after the issuance of the permit, or 30 days after the designated completion date, as
defined in the permit. There were prior discussions on permit time frames. Do we want
to talk about that more or keep moving forward?
Mr. English said they made their feelings well known. Maybe you want to discuss how you
want to word it.
Ms. Cook said the preference is to get her staff and county team and Trinity’s staff together for
a discussion on that time frame before we bring that back to you or make a definite
determination.
Action Item: Staff should get together to discuss permit time frames.
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x We’ve all done 100 projects and there are 100 more. No two are like, but some are
bigger and last longer. There’s the unique nature of each project and they should be out
there at different times.
x You have the ability to pay extension costs upfront so you don’t have to keep renewing
it every three months.
x If it’s just a matter of dollars, can we make it run the time frame?
x If this was on a private road inside a planned community, we’re just getting a PPL or an
SDP and we’re doing our road work with the project, it should go to the project.
Although the work is occurring in a public right-of-way, logic dictates this. This is the
same process. It’s part of the project. Just charge more for the fee.
x We often find that the right-of-way permit expired and the contractor didn’t tell them so
we reapplied and asked the county for help. It’s not a one-off situation that’s never
happened before.
x Ms. Cook said she will speak to staff about that.
x Individual single-family home driveways run off the building permit.
x Almost every permit issued is longer than six months.
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x We understand the right-of-way liability, MOT, from Trinity’s standpoint, but you’re
willing to grant extensions to deal with the realities of the situation. We understand not
wanting it to be indefinite, but let it run with the project timeframe, the permit timeframe
for the site work.
x Perhaps something has to be done by preliminary site acceptance for these larger
projects because you’re hired and the permit is valid to that point.
x In the county, we generally don’t touch right-of-way from the contractor. What we do is
an LDO, a Limited Development Order. It’s almost an SDP. We do a South Florida
permit mod if it has a permit on it. And we do an MDA. And then the contractor pulls,
applies for and pulls the right-of-way.
Action Item: Consider allowing the permit to run with the project time frame. Something
could be done by preliminary site acceptance for larger projects because you’re hired and the
permit is valid to that point.
A discussion ensued over permit applications and deadlines.
Action Item: Consider an emergency permit application.
Action Item: Discuss the subcommittee’s recommendations about Section 2.01.04 with staff
and bring staff’s views back to the subcommittee.
Mr. Hildebrand told the subcommittee:
x In Section 2.01.06, there was language added that states that when the construction
activity impedes traffic flow on an interior or collector roadway the certified
maintenance and traffic plan shall be submitted prior to the start of work.
x Staff requested that it be added.
x There’s a permit condition and there was language elsewhere that implied that, but it
was a request to add it here.
x There were some general cleanups on the application.
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x Ask the staff member what the staff member is saying. If it’s a local road, we don’t need
an MOT (Maintenance of Traffic plan)?
x We’re proposing working a right-of-way on an arterial or a collector and we’re going to
feed the flow of traffic. Are we already obligated to provide a Maintenance of Traffic?
x But if we’re going to do a lane closure on a local road, don’t we need a Maintenance of
Traffic?
x Mr. Hildebrand believes the intent was a certified component, but he can clarify that.
x The 102-600 series are signed and sealed in Tallahassee and they can be used.
x It refers to the DOT index and that doesn’t deviate.
x There will be further clarifications to MOT that were added throughout the document.
That’s probably why the term “certified” was there.
Mr. Hildebrand said they’d clarify that.
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Action Item: Clarify what is meant by “certified” and what’s needed when working on an
arterial or collector.
Mr. Hildebrand told the subcommittee:
x On page 56, he mentioned that there was some language at the beginning that was
moved to section 2.01.8. This is where that language was moved.
x It’s not being modified drastically, but it was moved for formatting purposes. There
were some capitalizations in the county and then the language was added on 2.01.08
under road noise wall, insulation of road.
x Noise walls are not referenced or defined in the LDC. That was language they
requested to be added at the beginning of that section.
x Throughout the document, there are sections where we reference the references to the
applicant. Now it says permittee. That’s general cleanup.
x Language was added in 2.01.09. “Permitting shall be responsible for notifications of all
utilities in the immediate vicinity and proposed installation is the applicant’s
responsibility to coordinate the work with any utility relocations that may be
necessary.”
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x For 2.01.09, it appears to say if I’m doing work in the right-of-way, then I have to
notify TECO, FPL, Lumen (CenturyLink), Comcast, etc. It’s your responsibility if
you’re going to be in proximity to somebody else’s utilities. The county isn’t looking
for documentation.
x You’re obligated by law to call Sunshine 811. It’s a reminder that you must.
x We’ve had many projects where everybody wants to be in the right-of-way at the same
time so we want to make sure everybody’s coordinating with everyone, not just private
developers. We want everybody to coordinate with each other.
x On p. 57, most of it is formatting changes.
x 2.02.00 still reads the same as it did in the previous version. “Inspections are for the
purpose of correcting errors seen at the time of inspection and do not constitute
acceptance for maintenance by the county, nor do they release the permit, even if
liability or a failure occurs in the future.”
x That seems very open-ended. We’re saying inspections are required, we’re saying
we’re going to point out the things that we think you’re responsible for into the future
but there needs to be an end to that. Nowhere in the handbook does it outline the
process for closing off an apartment or anything and turning it over to the county, then
once it’s approved, the county takes that on.
x We do have some plats where it says a tract is going to be maintained by the developer.
That may need clarification. An ending process is needed.
x We need a document that says “free and clear.”
x You think it’s done, you don’t want to cap it, but you’re strongly under the impression
for certain reasons that it was done and you don’t have a letter. Then you do a final
sometime later and find it was never closed out. Let me go inspect that again.
x Or it’s 18 months later and this curb needs to be repaired.
x What underscores that need for finality is the moment that you get your permit and
there’s a defined lifetime for that permit. There needs to be a certification and turnover
maintenance. We need more of a process.
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Action Item: Where plats say a tract will be maintained by a developer, clarification is needed
for an ending process. A process for certification and turnover maintenance is needed.
Mr. Hildebrand told the subcommittee:
x A lot of text was struck out. The intent was to eliminate redundancy and to put a lot of
text in specific locations.
x On page 59, 2.04, Exemptions for Permits, the intent was to get it compiled. There was
an additional request in 2.04.02, under the exemption “permits requirements, routine
maintenance of permit facilities to the county manager” where the designee will
determine if the proposed activities are routine. If it’s determined that an activity is not
routine, a right-of-way permit will be required. That was added.
x On 2.04.05, exemptions includes hydrant valves, air release valves and the sample
station adjustment.
x In 2.04.09, installation of delineation devices and pavement markers, it’s RPMs, things
of that nature.
x On page 60, most of it was cleanup, but the performance bond requirements were
modified. There was a request by one department to have the additional performance
bond language added, but it is not being recommended by Development Review staff.
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x Most involved requests to be added and some were there before.
x There was one item previously that said any permittee including private contractors,
public utility companies, and regulated franchisees may be required to post a
performance bond in a form acceptable in the county adoption of the Transportation
Services Division of Administrators.
x The language said “may be required” and a staff member’s suggested change was “it
will require,” but we’re keeping it at “may be.” It’s up to the County Manager.
x If there are no criteria, the guy who has a required bond is going to say this guy didn’t
have a bond required. You’re setting yourself up. Can you name examples where the
county has required a right-of-way permittee to post a bond? The subcommittee didn’t
know any.
x In Lee County, you must bond it. In the Village of Estero, not only do you have to bond
it through the village, it must be bonded through the village and Lee County, even
though it’s not their road. Separate bonds are required.
x Johnson Engineering researched other counties and it was all over the place. The
language in 2.07.00 was the existing language in the previous version and everything
under it was added. There was one division that requested that to be added. We would
not recommend that moving forward, the strike-through items.
x It’s not good to bond more than you have to.
x Historically, how many times has the county held back finishing a project in the right-
of-way? It’s rare, possibly never because we’re probably not going to give you your
COs.
x There are many times I’ve heard that a water main was built on rock with no separation
and it broke everything, but I haven’t heard of one time where there’s been a right-of-
way issue where it hasn’t been completed.
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x You might consider not having a section on the performance bond. It seems like we
haven’t historically required it or needed it.
x It would be useful information to find out if we have ever asked somebody to post one.
If the answer is no, then I’m with you. Typically, a construction and maintenance plan
with PPL has the offset improvement.
x Planning typically would include that for the longer, but if you’re doing an SDP, you do
an SDP.
x Development review staff would probably support not including this language and
requiring more farms that we have to keep track of.
x We haven’t had a use form in the past, so why use one going forward? Your criteria is
very loose. The guy with the bond is going to be upset he had to get a bond while
another didn’t.
x How do you know who’s going to be the one who’s going to eventually default and
leave a half-finished right-of-way improvement? You never know. It may feel like a
security blanket to have to do that, but have it written in there, what project/applicant
will have to do that?
Mr. Hildebrand thanked them for the discussion and said internal discussions were to remove
the language that staff recommended.
Mr. Hildebrand moved to page 61 and told the subcommittee:
x This is Chapter 3, Construction Requirements. There were some modifications to the
survey monument requirements that were added. The general intent was to make sure to
have language to show it needs to be a licensed land surveyor registered in the state of
Florida.
x In 3.01.01 and 3.01.02, “Permission shall be granted only upon condition that a person
making applications shall pay all expenses incidental to the proper replacement
relocation, such monuments by land surveyor registered in the state of Florida.” The
intent was to try to strengthen it so it must be a licensed surveyor.
x Requirements in 3.02, Requirements for All Permits. There was language to add the
Collier County Public Utility Standards Manual to the list of manuals. The rest involves
edits.
x There was clarification and a request in 3.02.01, “locations where proposed construction
interferes with existing,” to add general clarification, “Collier County traffic control and
or safety devices will interfere with the proposed construction.”
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x On page 62. Are those more like permanent conditions in Section 3.01.00?
x You’re saying there’s nothing that has to go back to it and then, as an observance,
typically permanent monuments are only at lot corners. A lot of what we do isn’t at lot
corners. What is the intent so we don’t have issues in the field? It feels like a permanent
condition.
x It just says “don’t remove permanent monuments.” If you need to move them and
protect them, you must have a licensed surveyor make a plan.
x There should be no monuments in rights-of-way. They’re usually in the property
corner.
x There may be a sign, but that sign is 10 feet into the property, off the property corner.
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x There are some instances on barrier islands that had some single-family homes recently
out due to the storm. He had all the controls on the monuments on the road. The
property line is weird on those islands. They get very close to the road and then they’re
all gone. They have to be completely reset. There may be a need for it on occasion.
x This is mostly informational, but we do get residents, especially in the Estates, who
want to put in a second driveway to go back to the rear of the property where there are
detached garages, where they’re storing their RV or their dump truck. Many will put
the driveway closer to the property line, so if they happen to go over the property
boundary into a neighbor’s yard, at least we’ve got that information there.
x You might want to make that a permanent condition.
x It’s rare that the homeowner is preparing to right-of-way something.
x It’s saying that permanent survey monuments are to be preserved and not damaged,
moved, etc., without approval.
x If they are damaged or removed, it needs to be rectified with a license surveyor.
x It seems like a standard permit condition. You know it’s not a design thing, it’s not a
permanent thing, it’s “don’t do this” – unless, if you do need to move them, you need to
have a licensed surveyor prepare a plan.
x Permit conditions say nothing about monuments.
x Should it be moved to another section, not Construction Requirements?
x There’s a section for Construction and another for General Conditions for Right-of-
Way permits attached to all issued right-of-way permits.
x It may be better to keep it simpler. This structure requires survey monuments,
(informational). Permit survey monuments are not to be touched, modified, moved,
damaged or otherwise without approval being granted on the basis of a plan provided
by a licensed surveyor.
x It could be in the Construction Section, but it needs to be in General Conditions
because the contractor is responsible and the contractor often doesn’t get the right-of-
way permit.
Action Item: Consider moving the section about monuments to the Construction Section and
General Conditions section and changing the language to: This structure requires survey
monuments (informational) permit. Survey monuments are not to be touched, modified,
moved, damaged or otherwise without approval being granted on the basis of a plan provided
by a licensed surveyor.
Mr. Hildebrand moved to page 62 and said there is one in 3.02.07 regarding utilities. In the last
sentence: Programmable electronic marker balls shall be placed within the utility ID. The language
requested to be added is “and shall be verified by a Collier County inspector.” That was the added
language.
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x Can we define longitudinal utilities? If we don’t, we either need to consider adding
that as a definition or we need to include what those are in this statement.
x Water means it’s a longitudinal utility that’s underground and the Utilities Manual
says at least 7½ feet off if not splitting the right-of-way difference.
x Does this apply to perpendicular crossings? Because you have longitudinal, it seems
like it’s one directional.
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x If it’s a utility, isn’t our permit subject to the county utility manual? That’s right.
x What’s a longitudinal? You’re telling me that if TECO runs a gas line, they have to put
ball markers over there? That’s not happening.
x For FPL conduits and TECO gas, there’s no way to put markers on those.
x The Utility Manual requires them on wet utilities.
x The county states the water line only.
x The request is either a definition of longitudinal utility or further clarify what it applies
to in Section 3.02.07 and you need to make sure that you don’t conflict with the utility
standards and you’re not voicing new requirements to put marker balls over other
utilities that don’t otherwise require it.
x They only changed this rule previously for the inspector.
x The way I read it, there’s a lot of talk about primary cable, which I assume could be
either. It’s going to be a dry utility.
x The other is a blanket permit for a utility. FPL, TECO, Lumen all have their own
permitting for their facilities through this blanket permit. They update it with a picture.
I don’t know if that requirement is being held on the markers.
x This has some mix and match, apples, bananas, oranges going on, so if it’s not, then
we don’t want that language. Maybe if you want power, cable, telephone, gas to be as
close to the right-of-way line as possible, water, sewer, effluent and anything county
owned should be done in accordance with their manual and shouldn’t be discussed
here, other than to refer to that.
x In electric marker balls, I don’t think you put on electric, cable, gas, but they’re
mentioned there.
x It says you have to have a county inspector verify it, which needs clarification.
x Even with some of the existing constrained rights-of-way, 90% of the utilities are
outside the rights-of-way. This first time I’ve experienced FPL and Comcast, all that’s
been in the right-of-way. There are no utilities. You’ll find it on Airport Road.
x At Gray Oaks, that road right-of-way had grown over the years, so the utilities ended
up in the right-of-way, but it’s rare.
x It seems we’re talking about marker balls with county utility requirements, mixing that
in with other dry utilities that have different rules.
x The dry utilities should be under the blanket permit that you do. That’s where a utility
permittee is going to look. Otherwise, you have no rules and you don’t renew it. We
go to the utility company and tell them this is what we want to do and they say,
“Here’s what you need to put in.” That’s the blanket. You give them a right to do it.
They come in all the time for new permits, the dry utilities.
x It’s basically augmenting their blanket permit.
x That will be clarified by definition or what it says.
Action Item: Define longitudinal utilities. If you don’t, consider adding that as a definition or
include what those are in the statement. Make sure you don’t conflict with utility standards and
are not voicing new requirements to put marker balls over other utilities that don’t require it.
Action Item: If you want power, cable, telephone, gas to be as close to the right-of-way line as
possible, water, sewer, effluent, anything county owned should be done in accordance with
their manual and shouldn’t really be discussed in the ROW Handbook, except to refer to that.
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Action Item: It says you must have a county inspector verify it. That needs clarification.
Mr. Hildebrand moved to page 63 and told the subcommittee:
x Most of it is formatting, but there were comments in 3.03 under the Roadway Crossing
section.
x The first, under General Information, Item A, is a request under the existing pavement
to say, “shall be made using jack and bore or directional bore or micro tunneling
method.” Micro tunneling isn’t common, but a staff asked to add it as a permissible
crossing method. It was added to A.
x On B, there was updated language to the pipes and casing. “Shall be materials
acceptable for use in FDOT right-of-way and installed per FDOT standard
specifications.” That was to refer to DOT’s manual as the basis.
x Under C, “jetting is not allowed” was the modification.
x In 3.03.02, jack and bore, it had directional bore so we added micro-tunneling at
3.03.02.
x For 3.03.02, casing, the following requirements were added. “The casing requirements
shall be per the FDOT standards for road and bridge construction as a standard.”
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x What’s micro-tunneling?
x It’s a larger device not used often that drills a larger hole under the road.
x Someone in Utilities or PUD asked that it be added.
x We’ve never seen it done here.
x It’s very expensive.
Mr. Hildebrand moved to page 64 and told the subcommittee:
x He said he’d return to 3.03.04 under the definitions of the arterial collector roadways.
All open cuts on arterials or collector roadways per the federal functional classification
map in effect. This map is available on the MPO webpage and identifies all current
arterials and collectors within the Collier County boundary.
x There is a current signed document online.
x If any are added, the map is eventually updated and then signed off on at the MPO
level.
x “Shall be restored using flowable fill in accordance with the Right-of-Way Handbook
Section 3. That’s a change in reference.
x The rest of the comments, except for Section 5, we’re striking through the directional
bore because the reference made on the previous page are all formatting changes.
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x Is this going to be an electronic document so you can have hyperlinks to everything?
x Sometimes, if you’re doing a right-of-way permit, you have to check different
manuals. If you’re in this Right-of-Way Handbook and it references the roadway
classifications in the Access Manual, it would be nice to consider an electronic
document with links.
x Document access on the county website is cumbersome.
x Ms. Cook said they know that and she understands what they’re saying.
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x The problem is the website changes and links get broken and they don’t link, so
someone must be responsible for fixing it.
x That’s a problem for the county. On Municode, you press the blue and you’re there.
Mr. Hildebrand said one of the issues that was that as manuals are updated, like on the FDOT
webpage, every year they update the specs. It’s a new link. The intent is to try to get this
document to last over time, so that’s where the discussion went. It would be amazing if it could
be done and maybe there are applications, but on pages updated every year, if the final document
has to be adopted by the BCC, then the links may be problematic. But we can talk about that. It’s
an excellent idea.
Action Item: Consider making the Right-of-Way Handbook an online document, so it can be
easily accessed, updated and offer links to other county manuals that are referenced.
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x In 3.03.04D, under open cuts, “if restoration is incomplete at the end of the day, the
trench shall be backfilled and secured by temporary asphalt patch or steel plate. Lane
closures may be allowed with the county’s consent.”
x Under the old version it was under Section 4, Miscellaneous Construction, Subsection
C, Underground Utility Accommodations.
x Item 8 has a long paragraph that says, “At all open-cut crossings, a minimum of one-
way traffic shall be maintained during daylight hours and two-way traffic shall be
maintained at night.”
x This section seems to allow you to make provisions for keeping a lane closed at night.
The other section says you cannot. That seems conflicting.
x We’ve been denied the flexibility to keep an open cut open through the night before.
We pointed this out and they said, “Sorry, it says you can’t.” There’s another spot that
says that you can further justify these things if it’s on a low volume dead-end road,
low-volume road, etc. The administrator can allow you to deviate from some of the
rules.
x That’s a conflict.
Action Item: Clarify the language under Section 4C, Item 8, 3.03.04D, and consider allowing
an administrator to allow you to deviate from those rules in certain circumstances.
Mr. Hildebrand moved to Safety Requirements and told the subcommittee:
x The first is an edit to reference FDOT standards. The old was the most current FDOT.
The FDOT index 600 series was the old. We modified that to standard plans as a
catch-all.
x There was a note where the county’s Maintenance of Traffic policy was located. We
can see if it’s possible to hyperlink but it may have challenges.
x Text was added in 3.05.03. “All work within right-of-way shall inform to clear some
requirements per the Florida Green Book in effect.” That’s straightforward. That was
to reiterate and strengthen the safety requirements and the importance of a strict
adherence to the clear out.
x In 3.06, on Restoration Requirements, at the end, it was subject to verification by a
Collier County inspector.
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A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x The paragraph where we’ve always had an inspector come out. That goes to the point
that you made earlier of: Are we done? Are we not done? Do we know?
x By adding this, you know the inspector is coming out, you know you’re going to get
an approval or corrections that need to be made. It’s not maybe we’re done, maybe
we’re not, we don’t know.
x I would not expect we could do a right-of-way project and not get an inspection.
Mr. Hildebrand moved to page 66 and 67 and told the subcommittee:
x Section 3.06 C. Seeding was removed as an option, so it’s only sodding. This was a
county request, so references to seeding have been removed in that section.
x The rest is clean up.
x There were references throughout to do density testing, which is LBR (Limerock
Bearing Ratio). Just to clarify in case people weren’t aware of the abbreviation, we
just clarified that it was the varying ratio, but that’s straightforward.
x On page 67, most is general cleanup. There was language proposed to be added.
3.07.02. “Alternative or extended work hours require Board of County Commissioner
approval.”
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x The LDC doesn’t allow work on Sundays.
x That’s only in the development code, but it’s also for rights-of way.
x Does the Land Development Code say you can build at night?
x As long as you’re not adjacent to other residential, you can put in a request to do land
development at night.
x We’ll probably be striking that modified language, which should take out Sunday.
x No lane closures are permitted between 7 a.m.-9 a.m. and 3:30-6.30 p.m., peak hours,
on weekdays. Alternative or extended work hours require board approval. Is this
policy new?
x The county has been getting more requests to work alternative hours, such as pouring
and curing before the next step in development can occur. Staff doesn’t feel
comfortable making that an administrative decision, so we take it to the board and ask,
“Are you okay with this?”
x Is that applicable only if you’re deviating?
x It applies to everything in this section.
x Allowable hours are 7 a.m.-7 p.m. Monday through Saturday. If you needed to do
work on a Monday and it’s an off hour, the county generally would support it, except
our Land Development Code doesn’t allow work on Sundays, so we want the board to
approve it.
x Permissible work hours should be 7 a.m. to 7 p.m.
x Sometimes work is required through the night because FDOT requires it, so if we were
going to do an intersection improvement on Airport Road for a new development,
we’d have to do all that work between 7 a.m. and 7 p.m. unless we go to the board to
get approved to do work at night?
x Mr. Hildebrand says after 6:30 p.m. you’re allowed to work through the night.
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x Ms. Cook said if you’re doing median work and you’re closing the road, you’re
already allowed to do that at night.
Action Item: Remove the modified language to remove the language about work on Sundays.
Mr. Hildebrand moved to page 68 and a discussion ensued:
x Turn lanes, driveways, access roads and design requirements, Chapter 4.
x This says turn-lane work must be between 8 p.m. and 6 a.m., unless you petition the
BCC for an alternative?
x It’s saying median construction can only be between 9 a.m. and 3:30 p.m. on a Friday.
Those are the off-peak hours.
x Peak hours are 7 a.m. to 9 a.m.
x It says median and turn-lane construction shall be confined to off-peak traffic hours.
x Off-peak is defined to mean the hours of 8 p.m. through 6 a.m. on weekdays.
x It allows all day and night on Saturdays. That’s current policy.
x The county is getting more requests to work at night.
Mr. Hildebrand moved to page 68 and told the subcommittee:
x This is Chapter 4, Turn Lanes, Driveways, Access Roads and Design Requirements.
x In Section 4.01B, there were clear zone requirements providing further reference to the
Florida Green Book to provide the applicable document.
x On the two-lane roadways under turn lanes, “per hour” was added at the end, so left
turn lanes must be provided whenever the left turn volume is 20 vehicles or more per
hour. That was added to clarify that it was always the intent. It didn’t have “per hour”
before.
x There was a request under multi-lane divided roadways. This is strike-through No. 1. It
pertains to median opening to the left turns. He can expand on the removal of that
language.
Chairman Foley asked why it was scratched. It’s a little convoluted.
Mr. Hildebrand agreed and said he’d have to check which department made that request.
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x That’s also in the LDC.
x It involves providing compensation for rights-of-way.
x It’s a huge issue.
Mr. Hildebrand said in Section C of that same section, increased radii with expanded throat
depth may be approved. The proposed added language is “in lieu of turn lanes” due to pre-
existing constraints. That used to say conditions and “in lieu of turn lanes” was not there.” It was
implied and this was added to provide additional clarification about the intent.
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x This mentions the compensated right-of-way and the sidewalk matter, but if there’s
existing sidewalk, if you’re adding a turn lane, whatever the separation was, you must
have the same separation when the turn lane is completed.
x What if you had a really wide right-of-way? You had 30 feet just because it says so?
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x We should request a deviation variance process on that.
x This is a prime example where it probably doesn’t come up very often, but it would be
nice to have the flexibility rather than this hard-and-fast rule where people say, “Nope,
you have to do it.”
x We’re not dealing with that scenario.
x The scenario we’re dealing with is where the sidewalk is two feet behind the back of
the curb and now you’re putting in a turn lane, so now you’re required to maintain that
2-foot utility space and maybe you’re constrained so you need to be up against the back
of the curb.
x Does DOT have any criteria regarding that scenario or in any of their documents where
they talk about the need to maintain that separation for turn lanes? (No one had heard of
that.)
x That’s flexibility.
x That could be an easy deviation.
Action Item: Consider a deviation process for adding a turn lane when there’s an existing
sidewalk and maintaining the same separation when the turn lane is completed.
Mr. Hildebrand moved to page 69, Geometric Restrictions, and told the subcommittee:
x This is section 4.02. Most of it is general text cleanup.
x To clarify 4.02.01 A, the second driveway access makes it clearer that it was a second
driveway access.
x If you have frontage less than 100 feet, you may be granted a second driveway access
under the following conditions.
x After that, there was some general text cleanup.
x Resolution 2003-411 was struck through.
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x 2003-401, that’s the number of driveways that references.
x As a clarification of function, we’ll assume that the County Managers Office makes
that determination.
x Ms. Cook said she makes that determination now.
x If you’re less than 75-feet wide on the lot, you don’t really need to.
x Are Band-Aid lots less than 75 or less than R75?
x They’re 75. It’s less than 75, so they would be good.
x Why do we restrict 24 feet? I’m fine with a minimum of 10.
x Maybe you have a boat and a trailer and you’d like an easier way to get in and out of
your Estates driveway. Is it more about the width of the driveway or is it the
allowable?
x It’s the width of the driveway.
x Many times, a driveway doesn’t go straight back. Mine is perpendicular to the right-
of-way. I have a 40-foot RV, so when you’re making that turn and backing up, width
is important. Maybe I’m 24 feet there, but I have more than a 3-foot radius. I probably
have a 35-foot radius on my vehicle.
x A lot of this involves making the turn at the road.
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x There’s a formula that tries to restrict it to 4 feet, 3 feet. Maybe that’s where we can
get relief.
x It would benefit both. The overall width versus third-term radius, but radius is
important. This issue comes up a lot in single-family residential where the house is
maxed out to the setbacks and they have one driveway coming into two garages.
Often, 24 feet at the right-of-way is a challenge if the vehicles negotiate to one side or
the other.
x We do a lot of the single-family drainage plans in the City of Naples and what I’m
seeing is that multiple driveways and wide driveways are now preferred. Things
change over time. Driveways and vehicles are more important to people now and it’s a
good point that you may have garages on either side and you may be restricted by 24
feet.
x This dimensional requirement is fairly consistent in the City of Naples, Bonita
Springs, Cape Coral and Lee County, so there’s a lot of consistency. It’s an issue in all
those municipalities.
x There are a lot of RVers. We should focus on pulling big vehicles out of a driveway
that tapers to the road.
x Could you allow a bigger apron where they’re turning to make that easier?
x Fire trucks should be able to do a 25-foot radius.
x It would be easy to put a driveway on it and pull in a moving truck, an RV or a boat.
You’re just trying to ensure people can drive in and get on the road without going up
on their wheels and going off the road.
x Maybe you haven’t purchased your RV yet or a trailer, so we shouldn’t put people in a
situation where they can’t request something like this because they don’t have their
boat or trailer yet, but they can’t buy it because they can’t get it on their property. That
would be a Catch-22 situation.
x That’s a common question and the hearing examiner asks for those types of
inspections with docks and the size of a boat.
x It’s not a parking lot, but if you’re looking at fire access, the minimum requirement on
an inside radius turn is 25 feet. Why shouldn’t you be able to do up to 25 feet without
a deviation?
x 24 feet at the right-of-way is a reasonable amount.
x Some houses have a hard time with two garages, but their house is maxed out to the
setbacks, so they brought it on themselves.
x I support 24 at the edge of the pavement. The 75-foot lots basically touch the edge of
pavement along the entire front. Maybe 25 plus 25 plus a 24-foot-wide drive line?
x The City of Naples right-of-way has a restriction on the width of the connection point.
It doesn’t matter where you’re connecting to the road.
x You’re often connecting to the edge of pavement, not the road. It might be 70-feet
long there.
x Why can’t we do a little auto-turn-type situation?
x This is not an uncommon request, so we need to investigate and figure something out.
x For Estate lots, the property line is usually the middle of the road. It sometimes is.
x I live in North Naples and I have a 150-foot frontage and a driveway that’s about 15-
feet wide, with a taper that looks like a detail and the mailbox is next to that. I can’t
pull my truck out without almost taking out my mailbox. If a car comes in the other
direction, I have to wait to turn. More taper would be beneficial. Maybe not 70 feet of
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length has that added pavement, but some number bigger than 4 feet might be
appropriate.
x Somewhere between 4 feet and 25 feet.
x Maybe it’s 10.
Ms. Cook said the county gets a lot of these requests so we need to think about this.
Action Item: Look at the formula that restricts it to 3-4 feet to consider some relief for the
right-of-way entering and backing out of driveways for larger vehicles, or possibly an auto
turn. Firetrucks need 25 feet. The county receives a lot of requests for this.
Mr. Hildebrand moved to page 70 and told the subcommittee:
x Most is text cleanup.
x In 4.02.03, Shopping Centers and Commercially Zoned Properties, Item B, a single
lane one way was added. Driveways serving the shopping and retail center shall not be
less than 12 feet, nor more than 14 feet in width at the right-of-way line.
x The only adjustment there was the one-way added.
x The rest of this page is generally referenced.
x At the bottom, one-way also was added to 4.02.04 B, after the single lane, and that was
regarding multi-family industrial and other commercial properties.
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x There was a clarification and the intent was the single lane.
x For processing transportation deviation requests at SDP levels, if we get too wide,
people generally think it’s two lanes. It may or may not be, so it clarifies that it’s one
way in and it’s not necessarily out, as well. There may be another lane.
x This is the restriction of no more than 14 feet undivided.
x I have to tell clients, you might as well make it two lanes in because the fire
department requires 20.
x In this really weird situation where you’re having to stabilize your median, you have to
have a mountain curve and you have to put in some expensive stabilization, whether
it’s GeoWeb or something like that.
x It can be confusing if it’s too wide.
x That’s why when it’s one-way, we’ll typically ask the designer to add striping.
x So you’re leaning with this 14, which you made 24?
x We do require that to be submitted as a deviation, 3. But generally if somebody says it
requires 5, that’s an issue of permitting it. We want to make sure there are no conflicts
or confusion.
x That’s reasonable.
Mr. Hildebrand moved to page 71 and told the subcommittee:
x Most of it was general updates.
x This one goes into Section 4.03.02, Driveway Types and Specification.
x For all engineers who hear these, were the updates to the older FDOT specifications
for the black base, the old ABC3, to be a type B12.5 black base.
x The old Marshall Mix, the type S reference to just type SP.
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x There is no specific reference to friction cores or the aggregate size, it’s just a general
DOT.
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x They still make Type S.
x Why not say Type S or SP?
x It’s rare, we could.
x There’s a lot of copy and pasting old details, cross sections.
x There’s nothing worse than getting something paved and someone coming out later
and saying you weren’t allowed to do that. That’s a technicality.
x They still do the old Marshall Mix. The difference is in the specifications and if they
batch the SuperPEG, you’re getting the SP or the SP 95 or 12 5.
x There isn’t much of a difference.
Mr. Hildebrand told the subcommittee:
x The Florida Department of Transportation did not support the Marshall Mix spec and
they haven’t since 2000, so if you’re going to reference that spec, it has to be a 2000
or earlier edition of the FDOT Road & Bridge Standards.
x Type S or SP would be the subcommittee’s recommendation for flexibility, unless
you want to lean hardcore into not allowing Type S in the roadway.
x I don’t know if it’s issue of allowing or not, but they won’t specify it in roadway
projects because they’re adhering to the current DOT specification and it hasn’t been
supported.
x As far as asphalt, Type S or Type SP would be acceptable for a right-of-way. You
probably can’t tell the difference.
x Are you going to make that single-pave job, or are you going to pave it all the way
out in the right-of-way?
x The intent is to get to where it’s going. That way you’re signaling to people we want
you to move toward SP but if you have S, it’s not the end of the world.
x The intent is not to say one is bad, it’s just to say that we’re trying to get to a goal.
People are generally moving to SP, so that steers you toward it, but if you S, it’s
acceptable.
x We’ll add that for consideration, that you approved them equally.
x That language also is carried out in Section 4.03 or 2.02.
Action Item: The subcommittee recommended that Type S and Type SP be equally acceptable.
Mr. Hildebrand said there was language added on page 72, Item C, “Brick paver drive shall be
constructed as shown in the paper drive detail in Appendix C, so when we get to the appendix,
that’s where the reference for brick pavers is being referenced.
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x What’s the position of the county on permeable paver within the right-of-way that
would have a different profile? Was that considered, considered and not included, or
just not considered?
x Mr. Hildebrand wasn’t aware of any discussions on that, but he’d wonder about
sinking bricks.
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x There also could be loose bricks in the right-of-way and the sand or whatever could
wash away. Then it’s not counting against the impervious area on your site.
x The City of Naples promotes the permeable paver for bottom street parking, etc., but
they have a different solution.
x Different size aggregate or lime rock is used.
x It reduces the impervious surface in the right-of-way. The city has a different
situation and problem with its road-drainage system.
x A lot of driveways are 4-inch, not 6-inch for the brick pavement in the right-of-way.
x For many driveways, the contractor won’t change it from the on-property to the
driveway connection.
x The standard is 4-inches of lime rock on driveways.
x Even though it’s in the right-of-way, the homeowner is responsible, and you’re not
putting daily traffic on it for travel. You might consider that.
x Most of the time, it’s brick paver and not a lot of asphalt. It’s a lot like the sidewalk in
the right-of-way versus the onsite. It’s a similar situation.
x There’s a lot of 4-inch in the Estates.
x They’re going to driveway to their house and they’re going all the way to the road.
Sometimes the road is their property, whether it’s in the right-of-way or easement.
x For county-owned, maintained, or the right-of-way easement, for that main roadway,
6 inches makes a lot of sense. You have more daily traffic on a driveway.
x Why would the county want to specify? There’s no driveway permit once you’re on
your property.
x If I wanted to take my concrete driveway out and put in pavers, a driveway permit
isn’t required on my property.
x The only time the driveway is considered is for the impervious area for drainage.
x The reality is it’s not 6 inches to the roadway.
x We need to have our manual accurate about what’s really going on. There can’t be a
standard that nobody is meeting or can meet. It’s a heavy requirement.
x I’d be interested in a structural analysis to see what the difference is between what the
4-inch and 6-inch provides. Generally, the 2 7/8 or the 3 1/8 average has a higher
value when you multiply it out versus the 1½ inches of asphalt, 6-inch lime rock, so
when you do the paver, the sand layer, and the lime rock, that’s generally a higher
number. That’s what you base it on. It’s a very strong roll number.
x On page 72, brick pavers, the county is receiving a lot of requests about grass strips
and other types of designs that people want so they can make driveways look pretty.
x Who is reviewing them? You should keep it standard across-the-board and say you
can do this and you can’t do this and here’s the process to do it.
x It’s often artificial grass in between, a pattern.
x It’s getting done with the building permit.
x The section is probably almost all the same, except for the top two inches or whatever
that material is, and how they anchor.
x What is the county’s assumed liability?
x Staff doesn’t generally have any opposition, other than it’s currently not permitted in
this code.
x If you’re willing to change it, change it.
x What does the language need to be so that it accommodates it?
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x Look at the city route. They have something specific like architectural standards
right-of-way.
x Can you be as simple as “alternative materials, cross sections can be considered”?
x The city allows it in the alley connections. A lot of those houses have garages in the
back and they tie into the alley.
x You cannot do pavers to the alley. You can do all the treatments you want up to the
property line, and then you have to do a ribbon curve, and it has to be either asphalt or
concrete to the alley, to their right. That’s the alley section of their right-of-way
tunnel.
x The landscape architect usually designs the elements for the driveway.
x Christian Andrea does tons of driveways in the city and Scott Linden does a lot.
x The county has received calls about this.
x Artificial grass is permeable because it has its own drainage component.
Mr. Hildebrand said the county will do more research on what the city does for brick pavers
and driveways with grass strip inserts, etc.
Action Item: Consider a process or deviation for grand entrance-type driveways with grass
strips and other architectural elements.
Mr. Hildebrand remained on page 72 and told the subcommittee:
x Most of it is cleanup.
x Under throat lengths, Item 2C on shopping centers that are greater than 200,000
square feet, “A traffic operation analysis shall be performed by the permittee to
determine all throat lengths.”
x The request to be added was based on queue length and required storage space.
x The staff member wanted to provide additional clarification.
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x It doesn’t have any defined terms. You can do the queue lengths, and then say, “I
want to do a 50-foot throat length,” but it may show that you have more, so how’s
that tied back?
x The descriptor for the language used to describe these sections, access to project
entrance roadway or out parcels was 100 feet. Has it changed?
x If there’s a turn lane and you’re turning into a shopping center, we have to measure a
throat of at least 100 feet from where you’re turning the inside as you travel. Offset
100 feet in before we reach the first stop.
x Is “throat length” in the definitions?
x You’re more likely to be turning from a turn lane, so what should be defined is the
entry road.
x You’re now departing the turn lane and are on the entry road going into the shopping
center. You need 100 feet from that point, the first stop condition is what I’m
assuming the first part is.
x It’s generally been from the through lane, so you get the benefit of the turn lane and
you’ve got the 50, and let’s say you’ve got 280 feet on the turn lane, which provides
five cars or whatever on the stack. Then it’s from the through lane, the throat distance
is 100 feet.
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x You don’t quite get four, so you get the width of the turn lane added. Generally, that’s
how it’s managed.
x It doesn’t say that in here.
x You’re going to make that turn into that entry road and you’re going to then
encounter a parking situation, such as turning in to a 7-Eleven and it’s a parking area?
There’s not a lot of driving around, so you’re measuring your decision point. That’s
how it’s been interpreted in the county.
x The way it’s described is not intuitive. It would be an easy graphic to show where
we’re measuring these things from.
x In C, you say based on queue lengths and required storage space. You don’t define
the throat length. What criteria determine that? How are you using the queue lengths
and the storage space to require the throat length?
x I guess it’s based off your TIS. Let’s say the TIS gives me a queue length of seven
cars, so are you saying that it has to be 175 feet? Is it the throat depth? That’s what I
understand.
x We need to figure that out.
x Let’s assume you have a left end and you have a right end. You’ve already accounted
for volume stacking on turn lengths.
x The general criteria is that road length shall be measured from the nearest edge of
pavement on the arterial/collector roadway to the nearest edge of pavement of the
access roadway or parking space that intersects the parking entrance.
x C3 also could use a picture/graphic to detail it. When you read it, it often doesn’t
make sense.
x It’s only referencing arterial collector on all local roads.
x We’re covering all the county updates and subcommittee’s suggestions as we
proceed.
Mr. Hildebrand said that was a good discussion. It looks like they recommend a graphic.
Action Item: Consider a drawing/graphic for some difficult to explain sections, such as C1
and C3, to show how measurements are being determined.
Mr. Hildebrand moved to page 74 and told the subcommittee:
x Language was removed at the bottom of “access site plan information required” to
eliminate redundancy due to references elsewhere in the document.
x Page 74 is mostly text cleanup.
x For 4.04.05, language was added under Drainage Culvert Installation, “approved by
the county manager or designee,” a clean out or inlet must be constructed at every
common property lot line, or in accordance with FDOT requirements, whichever is
less, an inlet clean out or junction box shall also be required in any change of culvert
size, culvert type, change of flow direction, or any union of two or more culverts.”
x This language was added, “unless otherwise approved by the county manager or
designee,” the minimum inlet clean-out or junction box size is 24 inches by 36 inches
inside dimension. Each such inlet clean-out or junction box shall have a U.S. Foundry
cast-iron grade (No. 6210) or equivalent.
x That was the only change.
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x At the end of 4.04.09, we added “as verified by county inspector,” which is implied,
but there was a request to add it.
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x Does the DOT have a minimum culvert criteria?
x The Type C box is the smallest. There is a minimum criteria. It’s based on the pipe
diameter, but you’re allowed to use less than 15 inch.
x It’s a little confusing.
x This is definitely not talking about just culverts under driveways because you don’t
need a clean. It talks about the property line.
x It’s constructed in every three blocks of the property line.
x What does that mean?
x Don’t use the term “clean out.” That’s more common in sewers and sanitary junction
boxes.
x We’re working in the right-of-way. This seems to be any other drainage you’re doing
in the right-of-way. You’re doing a turn lane improvement, so we’re doing a specific
design. Usually, I’m struggling with this even applying. How are you using this to
regulate? I’m not understanding that.
x If it’s turn lanes, etc., and we’re crossing a swale, we have to do a full round route
and we’re going to do a design.
x If you can do a mitered end, you do a mitered end. If you need to do inlets, use inlets.
You’re not allowed to do that.
x How can you know how that applies when you’re in the right-of-way?
x It makes no sense.
x This is applying to some sort of drainage.
x It sounds more like stormwater capital projects.
x Capital improvements are not subject to this unless Public Utilities is part of it.
x The priority is we have to send staff to you for a review.
x This is an overreach to do your design.
x Based on this, the infrastructure is more expensive than how you’d typically design it.
x Most of us are following DOT criteria.
x Depending on how long your pipe is, you have to have a junction box for cleaning
purposes. You choose grade inlets or mitered ins or whatever other treatments you
want based on specifics.
x We didn’t do any of this when I worked by the Publix off Immokalee Road and it’s
on three big commercial lots. We did it in accordance with FDOT requirements.
x This does allow in accordance with FDOT requirements. It’s not mandated that you
must do the clean-out or the inlet.
x It’s a strikingly bizarre law. You should see where the history came from. It doesn’t
apply to anything, so remove the section.
x It’s not understandable.
x It’s unusual and is guidance on design parameters, which we don’t usually get from a
code.
x The only thing the county has already designed that we need to accommodate is
culvert sizing for a neighborhood park. You tell us where we are and the distance off
the bay and how big a culvert needs to be.
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x A lot of common property lines make no sense.
x This came from 1992. It seems like there’s single family lot, driveway culverts and
that’s one criteria. Everything else is getting reviewed by you, by your model and is
generally being signed in accordance with DOT. That’s 4.04.09 at the bottom of the
page, the culvert associated with the building.
x Maybe the intent was if you were outfalling into the right-of-way from a site and
maybe there was an instance where someone was trying to connect to a large trunk-
line pipe and tie a pipe.
x County divisions are going to review these plans and say, “We think you ought to put
an inlet here.” Why? Because this property is probably going to need to be drained if
you’re filling in the ditch.
Action Item: The subcommittee recommends removing the section about clean-outs or remove
the term “cleanouts.”
Mr. Hildebrand moved to page 76 and told the subcommittee:
x Chapter 5, Miscellaneous Construction. 5.01 sidewalk, bike path, pathway
construction, a lot of these are standard references.
x 5.01.02, for a pathway, this is a multi-use path. Instead of specifying Type S or Type
SP, because in a public right-of-way, the request was to make it 1½ inches of
structural asphalt approved by the county.
x The intent is for super paved. They won’t object to Marshall Mix. It’s just an older
specification, so that was added.
x In 5.01.03, language was added. “All sidewalk, bike path, pathway construction near
existing Collier Area Transit facility shall be constructed in adherence to the guidance
listed in the FDOT Accessing Transit Design Handbook in effect, and at a minimum,
restore any impacted ADA boarding and alighting pad to current standards.”
x That involves bus stops and making sure we mention the 8-by-5 flat pads paths.
x This was a request by Collier Area Transit that went through. They don’t have to be
added everywhere, but if they’re impacted by development, they need to be restored
to current ADA standards. That’s the intent of the proposed language.
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x It’s not a reference to the on-street bike path.
x An asphalt sidewalk, bike or multi-use sidewalk, you can do that as 1¼ inch? You
can’t do that as 1 inch. 1½ inch is roadway standard. We’ve done 1¼-inch asphalt
sidewalks before.
x Probably 1 inch.
x We’ve done parking in temporary situations like sales centers and 1½ seems a bit
robust, overkill.
x Is the pedestrian-bicycle path in the LDC?
x According to DOT, you’re supposed to do 1½ inches to 2 lifts per hour, so you’re
going to make a sidewalk, and you’re going to have to pave it, and then you’re going
to go one lift, and you’re going to go back and do a second lift.
x It depends if it’s the ESP. If you’re doing a friction course or the ESP-205 on the
aggregate, but we can check what the requirements are. If they go to a thinner
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requirement, there’s a minimum structural thickness, so it may require a slightly
thicker base to have pretty good equipment.
x Asphalt pathways shall be designed in accordance with the FDOT’s most current
bicycle facilities planning and design manual as it pertains to sharing these pathways.
x A lesser cross section will meet the requirements of the county, then upon approval of
the county manager or designee, that doesn’t meet standards may be permitted.
x Pathways may be constructed of the following types of materials, there’s no concrete,
and that’s all. It seems like even the only seal allows for alternative section.
x The DOT specifies 1½ inches, but you can go with 1 inch and it gives it a structural
framework of a base versus the final lift.
x The county expects one item when someone else is paying for it, so the larger
problem, as a Collier County consumer, is that they say, “Do as I say, not as I do.”
x Ms. Cook said staff doesn’t have the authority to update the LDC as we would like
and want. Maybe we can modify this language to more closely match the LDC where
the alternative design is allowed.
x Would that allow us to ask for an alternative?
x Otherwise, the LDC says you do this.
x This defines a bigger problem. If we’re going to have a Right-of-Way Handbook, we
shouldn’t reference that in the LDC because you could have a conflict. We shouldn’t
have anything in the LDC that says what to do in the right-of-way.
x Maybe we can modify this language to “as described” rather than referencing the
LDC.
x Sidewalks, bike paths, access paths, etc., shall be constructed to the standard set forth
in LDC Section whatever, so that way you have an option for an alternative design.
x If you have a definition, and the sidewalk section is referenced in the LDC, and in
this. Why?
x The Right-of-Way Handbook says that you have to change that. If you change this,
you don’t have to change that.
x The LDC is for all sidewalks and pathways, even those not in the right-of-way.
x The LDC mentions sidewalks in the right-of-way having a lime-rock base.
x Ms. Cook said we could probably update this with a reference to the LDC.
x It should be in one place only.
Action Item: Modify the language about pathways and sidewalks to “as described …” rather
than referencing the LDC. It if’s in the ROW Handbook, ROW standards shouldn’t be in the
LDC.
Mr. Hildebrand moved to page 76 and told the subcommittee:
x At the bottom, 5.02, delineation devices were acceptable.
x Pate 77 continues the discussion of delineation devices. It’s pretty straightforward.
x There was a request for 5.02.05, for the devices used for the location, the public
utility.
x It specifies what devices are acceptable for marking the utility. There was a request to
have additional clarification there. A list was added to make it easier.
Mr. Hildebrand moved to page 78 and told the subcommittee:
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x This section involves underground utility accommodations 5.03.05. “Crossings under
existing pavement shall be made without cutting the pavement.”
x There was a request to add: “Crossings must be in accordance with the FDOT Utility
Accommodations Manual.” That specific manual was requested.
x In Section 5.03.08, Restoration to Right-of Way, there was a request for item B to be
added, “transit facilities and amenities, including, but not limited to, shelter, shelter
pads, benches, poles, signs, lights and trash cans removed, disturbed or destroyed by
construction shall be replaced or repaired in kind. The finished work shall be equal or
better condition than the original and must be accepted by the Public Transit
Division.”
x Under Item C, there was a reference to seeding and mulching operations, so
throughout the handbook, seed and mulching shall be replaced with sod installation
within a right-of-way.
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
x I don’t like words like “shall” because there’s always an exception.
x It doesn’t specify any other opportunity to have an alternative by the County Manager
or designee. Not every utility is held from under the pavement.
x It appears to be saying you can’t open cut pavement for utility installation crossing a
road. I thought it previously said there were exceptions to that and you can get that
approved. Has that moved to a different section?
x There are three or four instances that allow you to open the cut.
x All open cuts on major roadways. It says open cutting will generally not be allowed
but may be considered under more conditions. That’s old Section 2, Construction
Required.
x If you go to 5.03.06 after that, it’s a clarification and has A, B, C, D sections
following it that include locations such as deep cuts near footings and bridges and
retaining walls, across grate intersections, across drains where flow water.
x This is saying any crossing in this area should not be considered.
x 5.03.06, open cutting of existing, that’s only for highways, so we need to say under
5.03.05, you can’t open cut under these four conditions.
Mr. Hildebrand said they’ll clarify the intent of that.
Action Item: Clarify the intent of 5.03.06 and the four conditions.
Mr. Hildebrand moved to page 79 and told the subcommittee:
x Most of these are just text.
x The FDOT for the maintenance of traffic used to reference the Index 600. It’s now the
102 600 series, but we’re making a reference to standard plans to make it more
universal.
x That’s the only real change there.
x Page 80 has standard updates.
Ms. Cook said this is a good stopping point. She can reach out to subcommittee members
another time to finish the remainder. Would you like us to make these changes and modifications
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This report reflects monthly data from August 22, 2023 – September 21, 2023
Code Enforcement Division Monthly Report
August 22, 2023 – September 21, 2023 Highlights
x Cases opened: 490
x Cases closed due to voluntary compliance: 341
x Property inspections: 2551
x Lien searches requested: 655
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August 22, 2023 – September 21, 2023 Code Cases by Category
This report reflects monthly data from August 22, 2023 – September 21, 2023
Case Type Common Issues Associated with Case Type
Accessory Use – Fence permits, fence maintenance, canopies, shades, guesthouse renting etc.
Animals – Prohibited animals, too many animals, etc.
Commercial - Shopping carts
Land Use – Prohibited land use, roadside stands, outdoor storage, synthetic drugs, zoning issues, etc.
Noise - Construction, early morning landscaping, bar or club, outdoor bands, etc.
Nuisance Abatement – Litter, grass overgrowth, waste container pits, exotics, etc.
Occupational Licensing – Home occupation violations, no business tax receipts, kenneling. etc.
Parking Enforcement - Parking within public right-of-way, handicap parking, etc.
Property Maintenance - Unsanitary conditions, no running water, green pools, structure in disrepair, etc.
Protected Species - Gopher Tortoise, sea turtles lighting, bald eagles, etc.
Right of Way - Construction in the public right-of-way, damaged culverts, obstruction to public right-of-way, etc.
Signs - No sign permits, illegal banners, illegal signs on private property, etc.
Site Development -Building permits, building alterations, land alterations, etc.
Temporary Land Use - Special events, garage sales, promotional events, sidewalk sales, etc.
Vegetation Requirements – Tree maintenance, sight distance triangle, tree pruning, land clearing, landfill, preserves, etc.
Vehicles - License plates invalid, inoperable vehicles, grass parking, RV parking, other vehicle parking etc
Animals
1%
Accessory Use
3%Land Use
7%Noise
3%
Nuisance Abatement
25%
Occupational Licensing
1%
Parking Enforcement
2%Property Maintenance
9%
Right of Way
5%
Signs
3%
Site Development
25%
Vehicles
12%
Vegetation Requirements
4%
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July 22, 2023 – August 21, 2023 Code Cases by Category
This report reflects monthly data from August 22, 2023 – September 21, 2023
Case Type Common Issues Associated with Case Type
Accessory Use – Fence permits, fence maintenance, canopies, shades, guesthouse renting etc.
Animals – Prohibited animals, too many animals, etc.
Commercial - Shopping carts
Land Use – Prohibited land use, roadside stands, outdoor storage, synthetic drugs, zoning issues, etc.
Noise - Construction, early morning landscaping, bar or club, outdoor bands, etc.
Nuisance Abatement – Litter, grass overgrowth, waste container pits, exotics, etc.
Occupational Licensing – Home occupation violations, no business tax receipts, kenneling. etc.
Parking Enforcement - Parking within public right-of-way, handicap parking, etc.
Property Maintenance - Unsanitary conditions, no running water, green pools, structure in disrepair, etc.
Protected Species - Gopher Tortoise, sea turtles lighting, bald eagles, etc.
Right of Way - Construction in the public right-of-way, damaged culverts, obstruction to public right-of-way, etc.
Signs - No sign permits, illegal banners, illegal signs on private property, etc.
Site Development -Building permits, building alterations, land alterations, etc.
Temporary Land Use - Special events, garage sales, promotional events, sidewalk sales, etc.
Vegetation Requirements – Tree maintenance, sight distance triangle, tree pruning, land clearing, landfill, preserves, etc.
Vehicles - License plates invalid, inoperable vehicles, grass parking, RV parking, other vehicle parking etc.
Accessory Use
4%Land Use
8%
Noise
2%
Nuisance
Abatement
24%
Occupational Licensing
1%
Parking Enforcement
3%Property Maintenance
13%
Protected Species
2%
Right of Way
5%
Short-term Rentals
1%
Signs
2%
Site Development
17%
Temporary Use
1%
Vehicles
14%
Vegetation Requirements
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June 22, 2023 – July 21, 2023 Code Cases by Category
This report reflects monthly data from August 22, 2023 – September 21, 2023
Case Type Common Issues Associated with Case Type
Accessory Use – Fence permits, fence maintenance, canopies, shades, guesthouse renting etc.
Animals – Prohibited animals, too many animals, etc.
Commercial - Shopping carts
Land Use – Prohibited land use, roadside stands, outdoor storage, synthetic drugs, zoning issues, etc.
Noise - Construction, early morning landscaping, bar or club, outdoor bands, etc.
Nuisance Abatement – Litter, grass overgrowth, waste container pits, exotics, etc.
Occupational Licensing – Home occupation violations, no business tax receipts, kenneling. etc.
Parking Enforcement - Parking within public right-of-way, handicap parking, etc.
Property Maintenance - Unsanitary conditions, no running water, green pools, structure in disrepair, etc.
Protected Species - Gopher Tortoise, sea turtles lighting, bald eagles, etc.
Right of Way - Construction in the public right-of-way, damaged culverts, obstruction to public right-of-way, etc.
Signs - No sign permits, illegal banners, illegal signs on private property, etc.
Site Development -Building permits, building alterations, land alterations, etc.
Temporary Land Use - Special events, garage sales, promotional events, sidewalk sales, etc.
Vegetation Requirements – Tree maintenance, sight distance triangle, tree pruning, land clearing, landfill, preserves, etc.
Vehicles - License plates invalid, inoperable vehicles, grass parking, RV parking, other vehicle parking etc.
Animals
2%Accessory Use
3%
Land Use
10%
Noise
2%
Nuisance Abatement
30%
Occupational Licensing
1%Parking Enforcement
2%
Property Maintenance
8%
Protected Species
3%
Right of Way
3%
Signs
2%
Site Development
14%
Vehicles
18%
Vegetation Requirements
2%
58
56112110115554171981181074178690510152001020304050607080Mar-23 Apr-23 May-23 Jun-23 Jul-23 Aug-23RequestsBusiness DaysResponse Time - Letters of AvailabilityRequests CompletedMinimumAverageMaximumRequests Received59
7106423257531136439713111917172105101520250510152025303540Mar-23 Apr-23 May-23 Jun-23 Jul-23 Aug-23RequestsBusiness DaysResponse Time - FDEP PermitsRequests CompletedInitial Review TimeRevision Review TimeDirector Approval TimeRequests Received60
11112271215983639999012345678910024681012141618Mar-23 Apr-23 May-23 Jun-23 Jul-23 Aug-23RequestsBusiness DaysResponse Time - Utility DeviationsRequests CompletedSufficiency Review TimeSubstantive Review TimeRequests Received61
September 2023
Monthly Statistics
109/2023
Growth Management Community
Development Department
62
Building Plan Review Statistics
09/2023
Growth Management Community
Development Department 2
-
1,000
2,000
3,000
4,000
5,000
6,000
Sep-21Oct-21Nov-21Dec-21Jan-22Feb-22Mar-22Apr-22May-22Jun-22Jul-22Aug-22Sep-22Oct-22Nov-22Dec-22Jan-23Feb-23Mar-23Apr-23May-23Jun-23Jul-23Aug-23Sep-234,554 4,564 4,248 3,913 4,296 4,608 5,574 4,980 5,317 5,237 4,555 5,173 3,706 3,693 4,051 3,694 4,111 3,878 4,861 4,339 4,809 4,487 4,059 4,616 4,028 All Permits Applied by Month
Well Permits,
105
Shutters/Doors/
Windows, 430
ROW Residential, 118
Roof,
298
Carport/Shed,
53
Pool,
168
Plumbing,
323
Solar, 105
Mechanical,
650
Gas,
190 Fence,
186
Electrical,
343 Bldg New 1& 2
Res, 207
Bldg Add/Alt,
235
Aluminum
Structure, 180
Top 15 of 35 Building Permit Types Applied
63
Building Plan Review Statistics
09/2023
Growth Management Community
Development Department 3
$-
$50,000,000
$100,000,000
$150,000,000
$200,000,000
$250,000,000
$300,000,000
$350,000,000
$400,000,000
Sep-21Dec-21Mar-22Jun-22Sep-22Dec-22Mar-23Jun-23Sep-23Monthly Multi-family & Commercial Total
Construction Value by Applied Date
Multi-family Commercial
$-
$50,000,000
$100,000,000
$150,000,000
$200,000,000
$250,000,000
$300,000,000
$350,000,000
$400,000,000
Sep-21Dec-21Mar-22Jun-22Sep-22Dec-22Mar-23Jun-23Sep-23Monthly 1 & 2 Family Total
Construction Value by Applied Date
1&2 Family
$-
$50,000,000
$100,000,000
$150,000,000
$200,000,000
$250,000,000
$300,000,000
$350,000,000
$400,000,000
Sep-21Oct-21Nov-21Dec-21Jan-22Feb-22Mar-22Apr-22May-22Jun-22Jul-22Aug-22Sep-22Oct-22Nov-22Dec-22Jan-23Feb-23Mar-23Apr-23May-23Jun-23Jul-23Aug-23Sep-23Monthly Total Construction Value by Applied Date
1&2 Family Multi-family Commercial
64
Building Plan Review Statistics
409/2023
Growth Management Community
Development Department
0
50
100
150
200
250
300
350
400
Sep-21Oct-21Nov-21Dec-21Jan-22Feb-22Mar-22Apr-22May-22Jun-22Jul-22Aug-22Sep-22Oct-22Nov-22Dec-22Jan-23Feb-23Mar-23Apr-23May-23Jun-23Jul-23Aug-23Sep-23Sep-
21
Oct-
21
Nov-
21
Dec-
21
Jan-
22
Feb-
22
Mar-
22
Apr-
22
May-
22
Jun-
22
Jul-
22
Aug-
22
Sep-
22
Oct-
22
Nov-
22
Dec-
22
Jan-
23
Feb-
23
Mar-
23
Apr-
23
May-
23
Jun-
23
Jul-
23
Aug-
23
Sep-
23
Commercial 13348574447444682816663479
Multi-family 561291012153182231029731322317415
1&2 Family 218 330 286 295 346 217 333 255 284 316 248 280 234 279 212 219 195 211 246 168 243 221 234 258 240
New Construction Building Permits Issued by Month
0
5
10
15
20
25
30
Sep-21Nov-21Jan-22Mar-22May-22Jul-22Sep-22Nov-22Jan-23Mar-23May-23Jul-23Sep-23New Multi-family Building
Permits Issued by Month
0
2
4
6
8
10
12
14
16
18
Sep-21Nov-21Jan-22Mar-22May-22Jul-22Sep-22Nov-22Jan-23Mar-23May-23Jul-23Sep-23New Commercial Building
Permits Issued by Month
65
Building Inspections Statistics
09/2023
Growth Management Community
Development Department 5
0
5,000
10,000
15,000
20,000
25,000
30,000
Sep-21Oct-21Nov-21Dec-21Jan-22Feb-22Mar-22Apr-22May-22Jun-22Jul-22Aug-22Sep-22Oct-22Nov-22Dec-22Jan-23Feb-23Mar-23Apr-23May-23Jun-23Jul-23Aug-23Sep-2323707257582457626506233862450729834255442870425797252022787322432214152396624523246012340027189234972574124769224772646222460Building Inspections
Well
115
ROW
386
Plumbing
3,072
Structural 9,323
Septic 148
Mechanical
2,494
Land
Development
1,572
Gas
640
Electrical 4,709
Types of Building Inspections
66
Building Inspections Statistics
09/2023
Growth Management Community
Development Department 6
Notified Milestone
Due, 464
Milestone Not Due Until
After 2024, 460
First Milestone
Completed, 41
Milestone Inspection Status
67
Land Development Services
Statistics
09/2023
Growth Management Community
Development Department 7
-
50
100
150
200
250
300
350
Sep-21Oct-21Nov-21Dec-21Jan-22Feb-22Mar-22Apr-22May-22Jun-22Jul-22Aug-22Sep-22Oct-22Nov-22Dec-22Jan-23Feb-23Mar-23Apr-23May-23Jun-23Jul-23Aug-23Sep-23209 220 232 157 179 182 195 199 173 176 175 176 152 138 124 155 184 192 319 287 215 198 194 222 189 All Land Development Applications Applied by Month
0
50
100
150
200
250
Short-Term Vacation
Rental Registration
Zoning Verification
Letter
Vegetation Removal
Permit
Site Development Plan
Insubstantial Change
Code Payoff Request
201
182
144
129
108
Top 5 Land Development Applications Applied
within the Last 6 Months
68
Land Development Services
Statistics
09/2023
Growth Management Community
Development Department 8
0
5
10
15
20
25
30
35
40
45
Sep-21Oct-21Nov-21Dec-21Jan-22Feb-22Mar-22Apr-22May-22Jun-22Jul-22Aug-22Sep-22Oct-22Nov-22Dec-22Jan-23Feb-23Mar-23Apr-23May-23Jun-23Jul-23Aug-23Sep-2334332117303730423635212327183118263533303230302727Pre-application Meetings by Month
-
20
40
60
80
100
120
Sep-21Oct-21Nov-21Dec-21Jan-22Feb-22Mar-22Apr-22May-22Jun-22Jul-22Aug-22Sep-22Oct-22Nov-22Dec-22Jan-23Feb-23Mar-23Apr-23May-23Jun-23Jul-23Aug-23Sep-236 11 5 6 8 6 21 12 12 15 8 8 13 7 16 13 30 16 17 11 11 11 16 2 16 72685042416177766954528661515552537070735548617485Front Zoning Counter Permits Applied by Month
Temporary Use Commercial Certificates
69
0
10
20
30
40
50
60
Sep-21Oct-21Nov-21Dec-21Jan-22Feb-22Mar-22Apr-22May-22Jun-22Jul-22Aug-22Sep-22Oct-22Nov-22Dec-22Jan-23Feb-23Mar-23Apr-23May-23Jun-23Jul-23Aug-23Sep-231
28
59
11
2
20
54
9 10
3
12
9911 9
27
00
24
9
1
14
21
1 0Number of PagesPlat Pages Recorded per MonthPlat Pages Recorded per Month
0
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
Sep-21Oct-21Nov-21Dec-21Jan-22Feb-22Mar-22Apr-22May-22Jun-22Jul-22Aug-22Sep-22Oct-22Nov-22Dec-22Jan-23Feb-23Mar-23Apr-23May-23Jun-23Jul-23Aug-23Sep-231
44
3
1
3
5
1
333
11
22
4
00
6
2
11
3
1
0
Number of New Subdivisions Recorded per Month
Numberof SubdivisionsLand Development Services
Statistics
09/2023
Growth Management Community
Development Department 9
Yearly Totals
2020 - 25
2021 – 33
2022 – 29
2023 - 14
Yearly Totals
2020 - 152
2021 – 188
2022 – 175
2023 – 70
70
Land Development Services
Statistics
09/2023
Growth Management Community
Development Department 10
0
2
4
6
8
10
12
14
Sep-21Oct-21Nov-21Dec-21Jan-22Feb-22Mar-22Apr-22May-22Jun-22Jul-22Aug-22Sep-22Oct-22Nov-22Dec-22Jan-23Feb-23Mar-23Apr-23May-23Jun-23Jul-23Aug-23Sep-238313310410818788834101982066121057Monthly Total of Subdivision Applications
(PSPA, PSP, PPL, PPLA, ICP, FP, CNST) by Month
-
5
10
15
20
25
30
Sep-21Oct-21Nov-21Dec-21Jan-22Feb-22Mar-22Apr-22May-22Jun-22Jul-22Aug-22Sep-22Oct-22Nov-22Dec-22Jan-23Feb-23Mar-23Apr-23May-23Jun-23Jul-23Aug-23Sep-2313 13 11 12 14 8 6 13 19 16 14 16 8 12 6 9 4 8 10 11 22 29 14 1010Monthly Total of Subdivision Re-submittals/Corrections
(PSPA, PSP, PPL, PPLA, ICP, FP, CNST) by Month
71
Land Development Services
Statistics
09/2023
Growth Management Community
Development Department 11
-
10
20
30
40
50
60
70
Sep-21Oct-21Nov-21Dec-21Jan-22Feb-22Mar-22Apr-22May-22Jun-22Jul-22Aug-22Sep-22Oct-22Nov-22Dec-22Jan-23Feb-23Mar-23Apr-23May-23Jun-23Jul-23Aug-23Sep-2339 61 46 40 39 24 43 42 29 34 32 38 34 29 24 33 36 30 41 44 48 31 33 40 36 Monthly Total of Site Plan Applications
(SIP, SIPI, SDP, SDPA, SDPI, NAP) by Month
0
5
10
15
20
25
30
35
40
45
50
Sep-21Oct-21Nov-21Dec-21Jan-22Feb-22Mar-22Apr-22May-22Jun-22Jul-22Aug-22Sep-22Oct-22Nov-22Dec-22Jan-23Feb-23Mar-23Apr-23May-23Jun-23Jul-23Aug-23Sep-2327373037454235393945354826432738313240424646333835Monthly Total of Site Plan Re-submittals/Corrections
(SIP, SIPI, SDP, SDPA, SDPI, NAP) by Month
72
Reviews for Land Development
Services
09/2023
Growth Management Community
Development Department 12
-
200
400
600
800
1,000
1,200
1,400
1,600
Sep-21Oct-21Nov-21Dec-21Jan-22Feb-22Mar-22Apr-22May-22Jun-22Jul-22Aug-22Sep-22Oct-22Nov-22Dec-22Jan-23Feb-23Mar-23Apr-23May-23Jun-23Jul-23Aug-23Sep-231,017 1,293 1,038 1,269 1,043 1,126 1,324 1,297 1,318 1,361 1,203 1,426 1,051 1,138 1,065 1,032 1,146 1,134 1,420 1,066 1,389 1,311 1,137 1,240 1,113 Number of Land Development Reviews
97.87
2.13
Percentage Ontime for the Month
Ontime Late
73
Land Development Services
Statistics
09/2023
Growth Management Community
Development Department 13
$0
$5,000,000
$10,000,000
$15,000,000
$20,000,000
$25,000,000
$30,000,000
$35,000,000
Sep-21Oct-21Nov-21Dec-21Jan-22Feb-22Mar-22Apr-22May-22Jun-22Jul-22Aug-22Sep-22Oct-22Nov-22Dec-22Jan-23Feb-23Mar-23Apr-23May-23Jun-23Jul-23Aug-23Sep-23Total Applied Construction Valuation Estimate
Construction Estimate Utility Estimate
0
10
20
30
40
50
60
Sep-21Oct-21Nov-21Dec-21Jan-22Feb-22Mar-22Apr-22May-22Jun-22Jul-22Aug-22Sep-22Oct-22Nov-22Dec-22Jan-23Feb-23Mar-23Apr-23May-23Jun-23Jul-23Aug-23Sep-23Inspections per monthSite & Utility Inspections
Final Subdivision Inspection Final Utility Inspection
Preliminary Subdivision Inspection Preliminary Utility Inspection
Tie In Inspection
74
Sep-
21
Oct-
21
Nov-
21
Dec-
21
Jan-
22
Feb-
22
Mar-
22
Apr-
22
May-
22
Jun-
22
Jul-
22
Aug-
22
Sep-
22
Oct-
22
Nov-
22
Dec-
22
Jan-
23
Feb-
23
Mar-
23
Apr-
23
May-
23
Jun-
23
Jul-
23
Aug-
23
Sep-
23
North Collier 23 48 41 49 29 31 29 49 43 48 36 31 29 55 27 41 42 28 46 25 47 56 54 50 37
Collier County(Greater Naples)53 80 70 68 56 56 62 69 59 56 65 73 41 57 46 62 56 68 70 63 82 91 43 43 60
Fire Review Statistics
09/2023
Growth Management Community
Development Department 14
Fire District
0
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
Sep-21Oct-21Nov-21Dec-21Jan-22Feb-22Mar-22Apr-22May-22Jun-22Jul-22Aug-22Sep-22Oct-22Nov-22Dec-22Jan-23Feb-23Mar-23Apr-23May-23Jun-23Jul-23Aug-23Sep-23DaysBuilding Fire Review Average Number of Days
Sep-
21
Oct-
21
Nov-
21
Dec-
21
Jan-
22
Feb-
22
Mar-
22
Apr-
22
May-
22
Jun-
22
Jul-
22
Aug-
22
Sep-
22
Oct-
22
Nov-
22
Dec-
22
Jan-
23
Feb-
23
Mar-
23
Apr-
23
May-
23
Jun-
23
Jul-
23
Aug-
23
Sep-
23
Collier County (Greater Naples)382 411 409 393 323 503 613 538 576 623 383 481 350 422 317 374 347 448 539 408 500 447 391 428 397
North Collier 608 654 504 449 470 503 671 646 777 855 637 800 525 466 449 391 444 450 583 490 692 650 627 636 525
0
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
Sep-21Oct-21Nov-21Dec-21Jan-22Feb-22Mar-22Apr-22May-22Jun-22Jul-22Aug-22Sep-22Oct-22Nov-22Dec-22Jan-23Feb-23Mar-23Apr-23May-23Jun-23Jul-23Aug-23Sep-23DaysPlanning Fire Review Average Number of Days
75